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Free U2 Show Leads To Berlin 'Wall' Controversy

artist: u2 date: 11/06/2009 category: general music news
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 08:23 am
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ChancellorErik :
Oh the irony...
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:28 am / quote |
KenMasters :
well, U2 and politics...
Bono is an a33kissing prick who should be banned from anywhere else in the world than WDC, that's where he belongs...

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:35 am / quote |
-Monkey-Nuts- :
Blimey if Bono doesn't see the irony in this... he's just gone and shot himself in the foot
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:36 am / quote |
ChiliMyAss :
Didn't mtv inform the people that the thing was only for people with tickets???
If they were.. why the **** are they complaining..
If they weren't.. then wow.
Also.. why would you call it a free show if it's not..
Free for the people that got tickets..

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:37 am / quote |
Yeti60 :
XD this is funny.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:38 am / quote |
SorryImAwesome. :
Bono reminded me of the Simpsons Movie.
EMA reminded me of EPA.
Lol.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:45 am / quote |
JanB :
"It's a shame that a barrier has been set up. It's stopping many Berliners from hearing the concert," local parliament member Frank Henkel told the BBC.

translation error? how does a fence with a white tarp stop sound... I am not getting the white tarp, but if there were only 10000 tickets given out then you do need some measure of crowd control. If the fence was actually based on consultation with the police and the city because of those concerns then its preferctly fine. People will always bitch about menial things like this.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:48 am / quote |
perilouspete :
If I blame anyone, I blame MTV. Fuk them.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:50 am / quote |
J_Producer :
why is the berlin wall consistently represented by douchebags?? first hasselhoff now bono, the edge & co... WHEN WILL IT END?!
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:52 am / quote |
Rokkec :
It was free I guess, but you had to get the ticket via the internet first..probably some form to fill out..but IT IS ironic indeed..=P
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:57 am / quote |
Glennjoe :
why does it need to be over 6' tall? they could put up a 4' fence, or hatched wire fence for crowd control surely, and let everyone see
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:07 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked

Cut down on the bashing.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:14 pm / quote |
miketheman401 :
floomdesk wrote:

Wait... People were upset NOT to see U2?


haha! +1

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:14 pm / quote |
Maikku :
U2 wants to be Pink Floyd
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:17 pm / quote |
Baconfish :

There tends to be tickets and fences for these free things for a reason: If there isn't, too many people show up people end up getting hurt.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:19 pm / quote |
!BEN! :
this doesnt make sense, people without tickets were moaning they couldnt get to see it?
well obviously.. its a free show but theres tickets to stop overcrowding, theres nothing controversial about this..

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:27 pm / quote |
98Timberwolf :
Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd


That's what I thought when I read the title on the main page.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:31 pm / quote |
Comeback Kiddd :
how ironic. celebrating the destruction of a wall while building one to block people from seeing the celebration
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 12:44 pm / quote |
Gibson Phoney :
So they built the berlin wall again? Well done bono
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:03 pm / quote |
flame_mc :
98Timberwolf wrote:

Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd

That's what I thought when I read the title on the main page.


same here. still this is somehow hillarious

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
imsimon :
If you didn't get a ticket it's your own fault, don't complain.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:34 pm / quote |
NearlyPrescient :
JanB wrote:

"It's a shame that a barrier has been set up. It's stopping many Berliners from hearing the concert," local parliament member Frank Henkel told the BBC.

translation error? how does a fence with a white tarp stop sound... I am not getting the white tarp, but if there were only 10000 tickets given out then you do need some measure of crowd control. If the fence was actually based on consultation with the police and the city because of those concerns then its preferctly fine. People will always bitch about menial things like this.


it probably stopped them from getting close enough to hear.
people always go near outdoor shows to hear or watch from a distance.
the hillside outside the fences of my high school's sports fields always have watchers who aren't interested in paying to sit in the bleachers and watch.
if its an outdoor venue, they shouldn't restrict people by having tickets for a free show.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:38 pm / quote |
NoInnerKind :
I can understand building a wall to keep people without tickets away from the stage and resverve that for the people with tickets, but to build a wall so people without tickets can't simply sit at a distance and watch is just a douchebag move. Some "free" show that turned out to be.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:50 pm / quote |
wouldyakindly :
Were it not for the irony this would never be considered news.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 01:57 pm / quote |
Ultima2876 :
Yo U2! I'm really happy for you and Im'ma let you finish but... Foo Fighters had the best free show of all time.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 02:43 pm / quote |
DualReaver :
Nah, they're both terrible.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 02:46 pm / quote |
UnaLaguna :
flame_mc wrote:

98Timberwolf wrote:

Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd

That's what I thought when I read the title on the main page.

same here. still this is somehow hillarious


Indeed, when Pink Floyd performed The Wall, they constructed a massive wall between the band and the audience (who had paid).

This U2 hooplah seems comparatively sensible...

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 02:49 pm / quote |
barrymiles :
This just made my day, this is hilarious.

p.s. Foos had a free show? are you talking about the one they streamed last week

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Zangetsu 101 :
TEAR DOWN THE WALL!
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 03:01 pm / quote |
thirteenburn :
Sadly, U2 can fix this with the swipe of a pen (more than likely on a check) as they've given "free" shows to far more fans than the alotted 10k that are showing up, so I see this as more the bands fault than I do MTV's. And trust me, I can't stand MTV in any way, shape or form so if I have an opportunity to bash them, I will and do.

One other thing I'm a bit confused about is this - why is this even an issue, seeing that the band is only doing four songs, and probably the four most heard songs from them to boot? Who really cares? By the time you get your "seat", the shows over and you have to duplicate the previous three plus hour (if you're lucky) commute back to where ever it was the fans came from. To me, it's nowhere near worth the problems it seems to be causing. My suggestion is to either tear down the barrier, expand the set to a full two hour-plus show and show the MTV crowd the selected four songs and everyone is happy.

I'm a huge U2 fan, but there is no way I would go through all the reported trouble - regardless of where it's taking place - just for four songs, and again, probably four songs I've already heard ad nauseam.

I'm just sayin'...

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 03:14 pm / quote |
thirteenburn :
Actually, my previous post should have read "...either tear down the barrier...or scrap the entire debacle altogether."

My apologies for my pathetic typing/grammatical skills this morning.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 03:16 pm / quote |
zink10192 :
this is just another thing to add to my "reasons why bono is a giant douche" list...
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 03:27 pm / quote |
init24 :
wow this is becoming a trend
at MGMT's sold out show over the summer in prospect park they did a similar thing

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 04:40 pm / quote |
Ead :
"Under no circumstances did MTV build a 'wall' of any kind in or around the U2 production site," LOL they dont know what a wall is
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 06:01 pm / quote |
Tubyboulin :
Seems to me this is like getting mad at a place like Scotiabank place for building walls, preventing people without tickets from getting in...
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 06:29 pm / quote |
Rænduz :
How do I block U2 news?
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 06:45 pm / quote |
jimmypagejunior :
am i missing something?? its a free show but they still had to have tickets to see it. makes sense to me. if u didnt get tix then y would u expect management to let u see it? this kinda reminds me of the bon jovi concert in central park. 50,000 tix were given i believe and im pretty sure it was closed off to the public...dont understand why it would be a security hazard though
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 06:49 pm / quote |
trendkill- :
A statement released by MTV said the music network "wants to ensure that the 10,000 music fans expected to attend tonight's production enjoy a safe and happy experience,"


so i guess a white tarp was need to neep them save as well

Local politicians also were not impressed with the viewing obstacle. "It's a shame that a barrier has been set up. It's stopping many Berliners from hearing the concert,"


sound blocking fence and tarp now? interesting how does that work

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 07:00 pm / quote |
twat :
Would someone flaming like to suggest an alternative? People getting crushed to death? Do you think U2 would care if too many people got to see the concert? They're not making any money from it anyway, and 4 songs is barely going to fulfill the U2 fans' appetites to stop them going to watch the tour. It's not so harsh, if you think of it as a gig with tickets, but the tickets didn't cost anything, you wouldn't complain if they were paying.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 07:07 pm / quote |
Goin' Mobile :
Ultima2876 wrote:

Yo U2! I'm really happy for you and Im'ma let you finish but... Foo Fighters had the best free show of all time.


Hahaha! Love the reference.

I love U2, but after Achtung Baby I could care less about their music and going to see them live. "Let's keep the money machine rolling guys!"

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 08:59 pm / quote |
AusMetal33 :
its seems bono's definition of a free show is very questionable...somewhat like his definition of 'helping the world' and 'in it for the music'
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 09:12 pm / quote |
Shinsen88 :
This is actually pretty funny...
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 10:18 pm / quote |
WoeChicks :
init24 wrote:

wow this is becoming a trend
at MGMT's sold out show over the summer in prospect park they did a similar thing


True, but you had to pay for that show.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 10:30 pm / quote |
paranoid70 :
Mr. Bono, tear down this wall.
POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:15 pm / quote |
CranberryJuice :
Right, under no circumstances did MTV build a wall.

They build an effing fence. Nice loophole.

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:50 pm / quote |
taytay8b :
Haha, sort of funny

But U2 is still a great band IMO

POSTED: 11/06/2009 - 11:55 pm / quote |
Loco23 :
dam MTV!
U2 FTW

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 12:37 am / quote |
MasterOfCows :
4 whole songs, must have been worth complaining about not seeing it...
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 12:38 am / quote |
Vin2254 :
really? shouldn't you be thanking them for attempting to capture bono?
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 02:27 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 06:39 am / quote |
floydpinkerton :
Sitting in a bunker...
Here behind my wall...
Waiting for the worms to come...
So they can eat my brains...
And not have me bother anyone anymore...

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 08:33 am / quote |
TwistedLogic :
The whole thing strikes me as a publicity stunt. To say you want to honour and recognize one of the most significant events in modern history by playing 4 songs; are you kidding me! To truly mark the event a large scale event concert, similar to the one that occured in 1988 with Rogers Waters I think it was, should have been staged. Bring in alot of bands, make it accessable to as many people as possible, provide education booths that would allow people to learn about the cold war and how the Nazi regime operated, maybe have some guest speakers like Clinton or Mandella say a few words. It could have been a special event, instead it was a lousy sham perpetrated by MTV.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 09:23 am / quote |
Jøhnny :
Oh yes, I can smell the irony... This was probably the funniest thing I read today, thanks for posting this here!
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 10:13 am / quote |
darkl64 :
So, if i were to make a movie that was free to watch in cinemas, people would expect me to tear the walls down, or let people without tickets in?
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 10:45 am / quote |
Axl_Explosion :
I'm with everyone else on this one who see this as a security issue. There was a chance to get tickets. They gave out ten thousand of them. If you didn't get one, well, too bad. It's just like playing the lottery. You have your chance to win. If you don't have a winning ticket, you don't get to win the lottery. I hate U2, I think Bono is an arrogant, over-rated cocksmoker, but the point is a lot of people like them. How many chances are there gonna be to see those money hungry d-bags for free in your life, even if it was for only 4 songs? What would have happened when all those thousands of people swamped the ****ing place and we get fans who get trampled and die? The government and the fans would be all over tv and the newspapers saying "oh, they should have done something to keep everyone safe! They should have put up a fence or something so this never happened!" It's people who are pissed off that they didn't win, complaining that they because they didn't win, they don't get to take part in the reward, if that makes any sense.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 11:35 am / quote |
ateitup :
does anyone else think this was about not being shot by someones window? It was more about blocking the view of terrorist and assassins?
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 11:39 am / quote |
wndrw982 :
10000 people wanted U2 tickets?
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 11:50 am / quote |
Barkeeper :
It was MTV who put up the wall, not U2.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 11:58 am / quote |
Metallicaloveu :
hilarious
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 12:41 pm / quote |
societysphantom :
perilouspete wrote:

If I blame anyone, I blame MTV. Fuk them.


+100

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
Rengori :
ateitup wrote:

does anyone else think this was about not being shot by someones window? It was more about blocking the view of terrorist and assassins?
They could have gotten free tickets if they wanted to kill U2 so badly.

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote |
John Uriel :
I would have scaled the Berlin Wall to escape having to listen to the Pompous Prat, the slave to digital delay and their leaden rhythm section.


POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 03:40 pm / quote |
rocker91 :
Sweet irony. You've gotta love it.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 04:21 pm / quote |
edinfang :
U2 don't mix with politixs
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 04:43 pm / quote |
rad86 :
thanks for reinforcing the fact that only a select minority were allowed to attend your show.... and the others were kept out but a 8 foot steel fence... so uncool... for all the great work bands like Ratm do in the political arena, there's a boner (or bono, whichever it is ) who does shit like this.... just a pity the real activist can't get mainstream coverage... but thats probably cos they're behind the fences... Maybe Yeah yeah, its not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate...
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 05:08 pm / quote |
rad86 :
Axl_Explosion wrote:

I'm with everyone else on this one who see this as a security issue. There was a chance to get tickets. They gave out ten thousand of them. If you didn't get one, well, too bad. It's just like playing the lottery. You have your chance to win. If you don't have a winning ticket, you don't get to win the lottery. I hate U2, I think Bono is an arrogant, over-rated cocksmoker, but the point is a lot of people like them. How many chances are there gonna be to see those money hungry d-bags for free in your life, even if it was for only 4 songs? What would have happened when all those thousands of people swamped the ****ing place and we get fans who get trampled and die? The government and the fans would be all over tv and the newspapers saying "oh, they should have done something to keep everyone safe! They should have put up a fence or something so this never happened!" It's people who are pissed off that they didn't win, complaining that they because they didn't win, they don't get to take part in the reward, if that makes any sense.


So your saying humans are so dumb and selfish that they cannot co exist in an orderly fashion to even attend a rock concert? that people would be trampled and die? well dont have a rock concert preaching the power of humanity when you dont believe in it... if you think walls and barriers are necessary to control and keep humans safe then practice what you preach! dont erect walls to celebrate the collapse of one!

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 05:14 pm / quote |
rad86 :
another side note is that if mtv was not a pay tv channel and driven by the dollar the educated smart and sensible people that organise this sorta thing would have surely opted to make it completely free but televise it on free tv aswell! but no... easier and more profitable to erect barriers.... i think im done venting for now... but seriously... what tossers... hope they stay away from aus!
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 05:23 pm / quote |
hendrix n page :
Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd


Damn right. They wish they were pink floyd

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 06:42 pm / quote |
135789 :
There is no point to this "controversy".The ticketholders got in to see the show because they had tickets. The people who see a probelm with this are morons. By the way, there is no irony involved.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 06:53 pm / quote |
rad86 :
135789 wrote:

There is no point to this "controversy".The ticketholders got in to see the show because they had tickets. The people who see a probelm with this are morons. By the way, there is no irony involved.


"Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a situation, literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity, discordance or unintended connection that goes beyond the most evident meaning."

I'm quite sure erecting a secure, policed barrier in the middle of Berlin to keep non-ticket holders out of a 'Free' concert to celebrate the fall of a wall which was designed to limit the movement and freedoms of those living in the Eastern bloc quite ironic....

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 07:22 pm / quote |
rad86 :
u2 jus cash in on the suffering of others and it pains me... they know full well any publicity is good publicity... makes me sick..
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 07:23 pm / quote |
DurpaDurpa :
Free, yet i gurantee U2 would have made a good profit out of it. I'm not entirely sure profiting from the berlin wall makes anyone a good person. Also, got a feeling Bono only wheres those glasses to hide the flashing dollar signs stamped into his eyes.
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 08:31 pm / quote |
leafy :
In the words of the Judge, this fills me with the urge to defocate
POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 10:35 pm / quote |
Scum_PunkRocker :
Ultima2876 wrote:

Yo U2! I'm really happy for you and Im'ma let you finish but... Foo Fighters had the best free show of all time.


LOL! That deserve to be re-quoted!!

Oh, and FUCK KANYE WEST!

Regardless what you think of Bono or their music, their music up to Joshua Tree is worthy of respect, and they do put on a hell of a live show.

If people really want to break down walls they should stop submitting to the monetary system and it's inefficient banker, politicians and corporations. Solution you ask? www.thevenusproject.om

POSTED: 11/07/2009 - 11:01 pm / quote |
Feel bad inc. :
DurpaDurpa wrote:

Free, yet i gurantee U2 would have made a good profit out of it. I'm not entirely sure profiting from the berlin wall makes anyone a good person. Also, got a feeling Bono only wheres those glasses to hide the flashing dollar signs stamped into his eyes.


But aside your dislike of the band for a minute people and see some things clearly.
U2 didnt organise this, MTV did
the band U2 surprisingly don't attend to every little detail of concerts such as security or ticket sales/give aways
Every band, even ones you love more than likely when they do something have money in mind. Even when bands do something for free they make money from the publicity.

U2 had nothing to do with this whole thing since they dont attend to security details, MTV are to blame, and even so it sounds like its nobodies fault since it sounds like the city officials made these security decisions. If there wasnt a fence trouble makers could have gotten in or such, having more than 10 000 people in the city streets with no security would be quite a big problem.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 02:42 am / quote |
jamiels :
maybe the idea was for the crowd to bring down the wall, just like 20 years ago, but they didnt really get the point and all went home instead
XD oh and plus can someone tell me where 2 buy some "sound-proof tarps" lol maybe it'll shield me from more U2 news

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 03:54 am / quote |
WCF :
The U2 hate here is ridiculous. You guys have your priorities all jacked up. The man's (Bono) personality is more important to you than his actions. He tries to do good in this world, something other people in his position can't even be bothered to do. But everyone's a critic.

If there are any aspiring philanthropists out there, you better reconsider unless you have a flawless personality and saint-like qualities.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:37 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.

From here on, anyone posting things like "U2 are faggots" or "I ****ing hate Bono" will be warned/banned.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 06:11 am / quote |
emil188 :
hahaha this is so funny. just watched the Southpark episode last night were they say that Bono is a living shit/crap hahaha.
This is just a perfect good little seat u2 and mtv made for themself ^^

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 06:20 am / quote |
Xeus :
if this was in any other city in the planet this would not be news
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 09:11 am / quote |
EREV777 :
ironic ideed :P, this sux, i mean its free
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 11:40 am / quote |
twat :
rad86 :
thanks for reinforcing the fact that only a select minority were allowed to attend your show.... and the others were kept out but a 8 foot steel fence... so uncool... for all the great work bands like Ratm do in the political arena, there's a boner (or bono, whichever it is ) who does shit like this.... just a pity the real activist can't get mainstream coverage... but thats probably cos they're behind the fences... Maybe Yeah yeah, its not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate...


Right, yeah U2 aren't real activists. Helping people in poverty doesn't matter anyway, it's making sure you've got your back covered and you look the part. In the end if you've done 1 thing hypocritical, you can forget all the stuff you did to help other people, you're now a twat. I'm sure some of those African kids would agree if you told them the true story too.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 12:03 pm / quote |
twat :
Free, yet i gurantee U2 would have made a good profit out of it. I'm not entirely sure profiting from the berlin wall makes anyone a good person. Also, got a feeling Bono only wheres those glasses to hide the flashing dollar signs stamped into his eyes.


Love the way you assume something, and then make a judgement on the person according to your assumption about him. Let me inform you that you know nothing about this.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 12:12 pm / quote |
fireyqwerty :
twat wrote:
Love the way you assume something, and then make a judgement on the person according to your assumption about him. Let me inform you that you know nothing about this.


And you do? Do you personally know them? have you honestly seen anything they've done drastically improve anyones life in any real non superficial limited way?
Cause what i see from bono's "charity" is arrogance him flaunting around his money so he can get publicity, if he wanted to honestly help then he could have donated to real charity fund, could have tried to encourage a summit of some kind without bringing it to the news immediately so he gets painted as the messiah, what he did was pure publicity handing out superficial garbage and bringing cameras along so the whole world could see just how "wonderful" he thinks he is
I see no last impression of anything he's done at all

But in one respect your right, these are assumptions, however logical they are, but you fail to recognize that what your saying is also an assumption you dont know just as well as the rest of us dont know, Im positive that my above paragraph is likely not entirely true and probably over blown but its my opinion. Dont think you can act high and mighty because you believe something to be true, you are not an authority on the event of his charity and neither am i , you cannot argue something that you have no account in truly knowing.
We are all wrong logically, not one of us knows the real in and outs of what happened so all of use need to stop acting like experts, including me and you and everyone else

just because you believe it and want it to be true doesn't give you right to preach it like it is the only infallible truth

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 12:42 pm / quote |
TromboneThunder :
TwistedLogic wrote:

The whole thing strikes me as a publicity stunt. To say you want to honour and recognize one of the most significant events in modern history by playing 4 songs; are you kidding me! To truly mark the event a large scale event concert, similar to the one that occured in 1988 with Rogers Waters I think it was, should have been staged. Bring in alot of bands, make it accessable to as many people as possible, provide education booths that would allow people to learn about the cold war and how the Nazi regime operated, maybe have some guest speakers like Clinton or Mandella say a few words. It could have been a special event, instead it was a lousy sham perpetrated by MTV.


+1 on the historical point, except for the fact that it has nothing to do with Nazis. The Nazi Regime fell literally decades before the wall, and they hated the communists. So good point, except history fail.... And yes, building a wall (fence, wall, there's no functional difference) for crowd control and limiting attendance to a supposedly free concert, celebrating the fall of the Berlin wall, is in fact ironic.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 02:38 pm / quote |
Schism1985 :
Axl_Explosion wrote:

I'm with everyone else on this one who see this as a security issue. There was a chance to get tickets. They gave out ten thousand of them. If you didn't get one, well, too bad. It's just like playing the lottery. You have your chance to win. If you don't have a winning ticket, you don't get to win the lottery. I hate U2, I think Bono is an arrogant, over-rated cocksmoker, but the point is a lot of people like them. How many chances are there gonna be to see those money hungry d-bags for free in your life, even if it was for only 4 songs? What would have happened when all those thousands of people swamped the ****ing place and we get fans who get trampled and die? The government and the fans would be all over tv and the newspapers saying "oh, they should have done something to keep everyone safe! They should have put up a fence or something so this never happened!" It's people who are pissed off that they didn't win, complaining that they because they didn't win, they don't get to take part in the reward, if that makes any sense.


well yeah, but why not just put up a chain link fence or something that wouldn't prevent people from viewing the concert instead?

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 03:13 pm / quote |
VanTheKraut :
*Applauds* Well done U2. Act like you're celebrating the bringing down of one wall, only to build another! Its so evil! So Maniacal!
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 03:54 pm / quote |
BrianApocalypse :
I think that U2 and their managererial team should be sent to Guantanamo Bay.
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 04:34 pm / quote |
135789 :
rad86 :

"Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a situation, literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity, discordance or unintended connection that goes beyond the most evident meaning."

I'm quite sure erecting a secure, policed barrier in the middle of Berlin to keep non-ticket holders out of a 'Free' concert to celebrate the fall of a wall which was designed to limit the movement and freedoms of those living in the Eastern bloc quite ironic....


Don't cut and paste definitions from websites for reference unless you understand what they mean. MTV wanted to give the people a show in celebration of the event that had occured in years past. U2 agreed to do this. They made the tickets available to the people FREE of charge. Those people deserve to see the show because they actually got the tickets. There was also no wall of any kind put up. It was a fence. If someone beyond that claims that they cannot see what they want to see, it may be because they aren't within the designated venue and they are behind the 10,000 people who actually cared enough to get their tickets.

By the way, U2 actually did play the show, so if they made no money from ticket distribution, What makes you believe they "jus cash in on the suffering of others"?

All the little boys on this website go out of their way to say that they think U2 sucks, U2 is only in it for the money, and bono is arrogant. This is pathetic because they are never able to give reasons that are even nearly logical.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:28 pm / quote |
TheBigBoss :
well.. you know what they say - for free are only the ears of a dead donkey. For free means - free for those who got free tickets. Sorry, but the reality is tough.
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:32 pm / quote |
TheBigBoss :
135789 wrote:

rad86 :

"Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a situation, literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity, discordance or unintended connection that goes beyond the most evident meaning."

I'm quite sure erecting a secure, policed barrier in the middle of Berlin to keep non-ticket holders out of a 'Free' concert to celebrate the fall of a wall which was designed to limit the movement and freedoms of those living in the Eastern bloc quite ironic....

Don't cut and paste definitions from websites for reference unless you understand what they mean. MTV wanted to give the people a show in celebration of the event that had occured in years past. U2 agreed to do this. They made the tickets available to the people FREE of charge. Those people deserve to see the show because they actually got the tickets. There was also no wall of any kind put up. It was a fence. If someone beyond that claims that they cannot see what they want to see, it may be because they aren't within the designated venue and they are behind the 10,000 people who actually cared enough to get their tickets.

By the way, U2 actually did play the show, so if they made no money from ticket distribution, What makes you believe they "jus cash in on the suffering of others"?

All the little boys on this website go out of their way to say that they think U2 sucks, U2 is only in it for the money, and bono is arrogant. This is pathetic because they are never able to give reasons that are even nearly logical.

Totally agreed!

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:34 pm / quote |
twat :
fireyqwerty, I think you are right. I don't know it anymore than any of us can know anything about what happens outside of where we live, or anything to do with anything we have heard or read.

But I saw them live this year, and he thanked all the fans for giving him such a great life. And just the way he said it, and the look in his eye when he did, he just struck me as a really genuine person. You can say I'm a fool and he's putting it on, but that's what I saw and how he struck me (and it'll be quite easy for anyone to say that he's putting it on).

Now you may notice you don't hear about Bono going around giving big cash handouts to kids in Africa, he doesn't make a big thing about that. That may mean he gives no money to charity, or he may give millions. But do you not think he doesn't realise he looks a hypocrite with all that money, whilst campaigning for people with none? In the end, if he wants to look good, then writing a cheque and waving it in front of a camera, but he doesn't. He has the respect of world leaders and he's gained recognition for his work from numerous creditable sources.

What really annoys me here is people saying he's a prick and he's annoying and should be killed/deported/sent into space. Now if anyone has read U2's book they will know how pissed off the band got because (according to them) Bono spent all his time off with DATA trying to sort out problems in the world. I'm sure you can find out on the internet how much success he has had, but if he has saved the lives of just 100 people (and I personally believe he has of many more), then do you think his 'prickness' is worth putting up with?


POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:35 pm / quote |
twat :
He has the respect of world leaders and he's gained recognition for his work from numerous creditable sources.
*so he must have done something true, unless he's pulled the wool over all of their eyes.

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:39 pm / quote |
l)ragonForce :
Comeback Kiddd wrote:

how ironic. celebrating the destruction of a wall while building one to block people from seeing the celebration


yea just what i thought, thats some bullshit

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 05:48 pm / quote |
Tammcnelis :
i love U2
best band in the world
but bono has got to stop gettin involved with world problems as everytime he opens his mouth more and more hate him :L

POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 06:53 pm / quote |
 
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Checked.
POSTED: 11/08/2009 - 10:34 pm / quote |
OzarkMDaredevil :
Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd


Haha. This is what I thought of. I thought they were doing the same thing.

But honestly people, it makes sense. Shit. Its not like they're gonna let the whole world pile in their. Its a hazard. Its also common sense. Calm down.

POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 12:20 am / quote |
OzarkMDaredevil :
OzarkMDaredevil wrote:

Maikku wrote:

U2 wants to be Pink Floyd

Haha. This is what I thought of. I thought they were doing the same thing.

But honestly people, it makes sense. Shit. Its not like they're gonna let the whole world pile in their. Its a hazard. Its also common sense. Calm down.


*There.

POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 12:21 am / quote |
acdcfan1556 :
i understand putting a fence up but why not a chain link fence. it will keep the crowd from swarming the stage and it will eliminate the "wall" issue
POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 01:29 am / quote |
dfisher_18 :
It was a free show, why were there tickets and walls involved is my question.
POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 03:57 am / quote |
bamann :
MR.BONO..."TEAR DOWN THAT WALL"....
POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 04:06 am / quote |
Mr Pringle :
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, oh lord. Now, that is so freaking funny i just... wow... The world we live in.
POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 04:47 am / quote |
RichieJovie :
U2 in hypocrisy shocker.
POSTED: 11/09/2009 - 10:43 am / quote |
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