Geezer Butler Slams Sarah Palin

The latest addition to the list of legendary rockers enraged with Republican politicians is none other than Geezer Butler, the legendary bassist of Black Sabbath/Heaven And Hell. In a recent tour update he says:

"Hello readers,

"Thank you all who came to see the Metal Masters tour. It was a pleasure touring with such great bands and friends - Judas Priest, Motorhead, and Testament, and their respective crews. It was great meeting everyone who came to the meet and greets after the shows.

"Now back to reality. As you may know from my web-site and lyrics, I am pro all life, not just unborn fetuses. I don't understand people who say they are pro-life, but then support unnecessary wars and the disgusting slaughter of animals for sport. I respect people's freedom of religion, but i absolutely abhor hypocrites. Which brings me to this horrific video of cowardly bastards in airplanes, shooting wolves for so called "sport", and the hypocritical politician [she's supposed to be pro-life, remember], who allows this cowardly act to take place in her state. I know lots of people who hunt, and I enjoy shooting at my local gun range, but I don't know, nor would i want to know, anyone who gets pleasure from this disgraceful behaviour. God/Nature has created a beautiful earth, and populated it with beautiful creatures, and i believe that all life is miraculous. Why do politicians [royals included] enjoy killing so much, and treating those miracles with such contempt?

"Love and peace,

Geezer."

Thanks for the report to Metalunderground.com.

Comments

[Pumpkins4Life]

Thank [deity goes here] for Geezer

[ethanw]

the title is slightly misleading

heh giggity

[imsimon]

Yeah, this isn't really slamming Palin.
Considering Geezer is pretty damn British, I don't think he's all too bothered about her.

[shattamakar]

thank satan for geezer

[shattamakar]

completely agree with what he said..a little over emphatic nevertheless.....,.., ..suck it republi****s.,.obama all the way

[Vampiric Virus]

yeah the title was a little misleading, but I totally agree with him.

thank science for geezer

[Bloodandfire]

Good on ya geezer!

[Ibzman]

He's absolutely right.

[webbtje]

dancesisidance wrote:

Yeah, this isn't really slamming Palin.
Considering Geezer is pretty damn British, I don't think he's all too bothered about her.

You know, it's actually possible to care for the politics of a country that is not your own.


I kind of see Geezer's point. I had no idea he had these kinds of beliefs. Good on him I suppose.

[Covin]

Beh, just another musician hopping on the bandwagon. Even if it isn't, it's all it seems to be anymore. I wish celebrities would shut up...

[yutyoy]

False!... Geezer is clueless. theres a big difference between aborting unborn babies and hunting. maybe the dumbest thing ive read since the last time i picked up a Rolling Stone magazine. stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.

[Spaz91]

Geezer is my favourite bassist but I had no idea that he was such a hippy.

[SURFraptor7]

this headline is so epic...

[brentondig]

Geezer rocks! Nice article.

[Billy Picken]

Wow Low_End_Rocker, tell us how you really feel! Lolz.

[nirvana-ejh]

What is kind of funny is that Palin was against this. She has tried to end this and petitions have been sent around. But they do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. This is controlled and is not senseless killing. I know this because I have relatives in Alaska and I have been there. Geezer should check his facts.

[Tulkas]

Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

Because they were protected for so long, wolves are over populated in Alaska, hence their killing for sport. If their population goes unchecked, deer, muse, caribou, etc. populations will decline upsetting the balance of nature.

[tim western]

nirvana-ejh wrote:

What is kind of funny is that Palin was against this. She has tried to end this and petitions have been sent around. But they do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. This is controlled and is not senseless killing. I know this because I have relatives in Alaska and I have been there. Geezer should check his facts.

Yeah, you're probably right to an extent. But either way the essence of what he's saying is still pretty good. I mean being 'pro life' should mean a helluva lot more than being anti abortion or whatever? Are 'pro life' people generally for or against stem cell research?

[Letterbomb11]

"I am pro all life, not just unborn fetuses. I don't understand people who say they are pro-life, but then support unnecessary wars and the disgusting slaughter of animals for sport. "

What makes even less sense is the fact that a lot of anti-death penalty advocates are pro choice. Not okay to execute murderers, but okay to abort innocent fetuses?

[sowhat360]

tim western wrote:

nirvana-ejh wrote:

What is kind of funny is that Palin was against this. She has tried to end this and petitions have been sent around. But they do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. This is controlled and is not senseless killing. I know this because I have relatives in Alaska and I have been there. Geezer should check his facts.

Yeah, you're probably right to an extent. But either way the essence of what he's saying is still pretty good. I mean being 'pro life' should mean a helluva lot more than being anti abortion or whatever? Are 'pro life' people generally for or against stem cell research?

i still believe in the food chain

[tim western]

sowhat360 wrote:

tim western wrote:

nirvana-ejh wrote:

What is kind of funny is that Palin was against this. She has tried to end this and petitions have been sent around. But they do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. This is controlled and is not senseless killing. I know this because I have relatives in Alaska and I have been there. Geezer should check his facts.

Yeah, you're probably right to an extent. But either way the essence of what he's saying is still pretty good. I mean being 'pro life' should mean a helluva lot more than being anti abortion or whatever? Are 'pro life' people generally for or against stem cell research?


i still believe in the food chain

Why are you telling me this?

[tim western]

Letterbomb11 wrote:

"I am pro all life, not just unborn fetuses. I don't understand people who say they are pro-life, but then support unnecessary wars and the disgusting slaughter of animals for sport. "

What makes even less sense is the fact that a lot of anti-death penalty advocates are pro choice. Not okay to execute murderers, but okay to abort innocent fetuses?

To be fair there is quite a clear difference between a fully grown adult human being and an unborn bundle of cells (the type that is used for stem cell research). Although I don't support the abortion of foetuses that are relatively far through their developement.

[Tallman1984]

"i absolutely abhor hypocrites. Which brings me to this horrific video of cowardly bastards in airplanes, shooting wolves for so called "sport", and the hypocritical politician [she's supposed to be pro-life, remember], who allows this cowardly act to take place in her state."

Um... for those who are confused, there's your slam right there. Personally I'm pro-choice, however I do agree with Butler's rationale behind his opinion of Palin. How pro-life can you be when you support policies advocating the complete opposite of that idea?

[cky_nick_cky]

for once someone famous has somthing serious to talk about f*** Republicans F*** democrats, green party all the way!
Geezer, you are a F****ng god man, bless you for the music you have bestowed upon us, live on strong brother Rock!!

[Jastul]

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless. theres a big difference between aborting unborn babies and hunting. maybe the dumbest thing ive read since the last time i picked up a Rolling Stone magazine. stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.

and spelling clearly isnt for you

besides, what's the big difference between abortion and hunting? you're still ending a life, no matter the species it belonged to, no matter the time it's lasted, it's still a life that you are ending

that being said, believe that if you hunt FOR NECESSITY, which in simpler terms means SO YOU CAN EAT then go for it, that's the way every meat eating creature save 'modern' man has done it for millions of years, also I am pro choice since it is best to not let a child be born into poverty or unloving families than going through with an unwanted/unnecessary/unsupportable pregnancy and potentially bad life for someone that didn't even asked to be born

[Tele Echoes]

Great article. Thanks UG!

[mikalllica81]

If people don't want to die in a war don't join the military. People should stop whining. People in the military make a choice to join and sacrifice their lives.
Liberals need to grow up!

[JS5150]

Politically, Sarah Palin was a stupid VP pick. I don't think that's the worst think that she's hippocritical about.

[shwilly]

nirvana-ejh wrote:

What's funny is Palin has been actually trying to ban this. There has been petitions and she said she is leaving it up to the voters. They do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. Geezer should check his facts.

There are also tons of reasons to support abortion and ESPCEIALLY euthanasia in certain cases but when it comes to those issues most conservatives aren't willing to give in even in the slightest degree. And she has no reason to do so because this kind of attitude along with the pro-gun propaganda is exactly what the republicans were looking for in order to attract voters

Checked.

[KISS-the-sky]

nirvana-ejh wrote:

What's funny is Palin has been actually trying to ban this. There has been petitions and she said she is leaving it up to the voters. They do this because of wolf overpopulation. The wolves are killing off all of the moose and other animals. Geezer should check his facts.

Yeah, but she still broadcasts messages sitting in front of that dead bear which her dad shot right? Surely that counts as condoning the killing of animals for pleasure, which does go against the whole pro-life thing.

Obviously life is sacred to her if it's her daughter's child, but not if it's an animal.

P.S anyone else completely misinterpret the headline?
Rock on geezer

[Ghanja_Fog]

haha go geezer, i think if a few more people slammed palin(no pun intended) a few people might start going to the obama side of this race

[Fuzzbox91]

i just gained so much more respect for geezer butler. i agree with him 100% here and hes also a great bassist.

[Jondy]

well i got to say... I quite agree. I'm a meat eater through and through, but I do believe you shouldn't kill animals for pleasure. Only for food. I was taught that if you ain't gonna eat it don't shoot it.

[yutyoy]

too many ignorant city hippies posting on this. if your city was overpopulated with wolves, ill bet all of you would be beggin for someone to kill them.

[rich420]

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless....


...stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.

And spelling clearly isn't for you. No, there isn't that much difference between aborting an unborn baby and hunting an animal, both are alive until killed by a human.

[PekarGuitar]

There are people going around in airplanes shooting wolves? I feel bad for saying this, but that sounds totally awesome.

*Runs to YouTube to find vids*

[Jondy]

PekarGuitar wrote:

There are people going around in airplanes shooting wolves? I feel bad for saying this, but that sounds totally awesome.

*Runs to YouTube to find vids*

i don't think they were shooting them in planes, or even from planes. I think the idea was that they're really rich and can afford planes to take them places to shoot wolves. rich, therefore, the man, therefore evil?

[PekarGuitar]

PekarGuitar wrote:

There are people going around in airplanes shooting wolves? I feel bad for saying this, but that sounds totally awesome.

*Runs to YouTube to find vids*

Meh, the vids weren't as epic as I thought they'd be. Let me add that I do not condone the hunter's actions.

[PekarGuitar]

Jondy wrote:
i don't think they were shooting them in planes, or even from planes. I think the idea was that they're really rich and can afford planes to take them places to shoot wolves. rich, therefore, the man, therefore evil?

Actually the vids show them actually shooting from the planes. Crazy.

Also for those saying Palin opposed the wolf huntings. There's a vid on there where she supports the idea.

[Keyphur]

damn way to go Geezer, you can hate on him for jumping on the political bandwagon but he speaks the truth.

Murderface Murderface Murderface!

[Ackj]

wolf hunting is the largest problem in the US?

even if it is, Obama/Biden havent really saved those wolves either

[gitarzero89]

...did anyone else think after seeing the title that geezer butler and sarah palin did it? you know, like "dude i totally slammed this chick last night." or is that just my tendency to see the dirty in things?

Are 'pro life' people generally for or against stem cell research?

we're for it only if it involves adult stem cells, which are usually obtained from the umbilical cords or cord blood of already-born babies, so it does no harm. there's been a lot of great advances in adult stem-cell research.

embryonic stem cell research, on the other hand, requires the termination of the living embryo, which is pretty much early abortion. humans only breed humans, so even an embryo is still human because it's parents are human.

so, as a former embryo, i oppose abortion.

[Syn166]

Jondy wrote:

PekarGuitar wrote:

There are people going around in airplanes shooting wolves? I feel bad for saying this, but that sounds totally awesome.

*Runs to YouTube to find vids*

i don't think they were shooting them in planes, or even from planes. I think the idea was that they're really rich and can afford planes to take them places to shoot wolves. rich, therefore, the man, therefore evil?

Actually Sarah Palin sold her plane cause she deemed it unnecessary.

[yutyoy]

rich420 wrote:

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless....


...stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.



And spelling clearly isn't for you. No, there isn't that much difference between aborting an unborn baby and hunting an animal, both are alive until killed by a human.

yes, i suk at spelin. SO!
but either way, most repulblicans are pro life and pro hunting. so if people think that is hypocritical (i dont think it is), then its not really news. might as well call a majority of the republicans hypocrits. why attack Palin. Geezer must be an insecure Democrat

[BriGuy7727]

mikalllica81 wrote:

If people don't want to die in a war don't join the military. People should stop whining. People in the military make a choice to join and sacrifice their lives.
Liberals need to grow up!

Unfortunately the way that the economy works is that sometimes kids can't afford to go to college & the military provides tuition assistance to those that enlist. That's why a lot of people in the military (while they are definitely voluntary) come from poorer families. It's discrimination that is all up & down the US, you just have to pick it out. They go to the army & sacrifice for our country but yet our country still discriminates & people in the White House are too busy giving breaks to the richest of the rich to pay back average citizens.

[CrabSoldier X]

i totally thought geezer boned sarah palin

[dirtydeeds123]

Geezer is 100% right.

[5150rando]

i dont even like sabbath all that much and that guy just inspired me! go geezer!

[CBofJAWBREAK]

geezer is perfect proof that all the weirdos get it.

he's 100% right

[FenderKid87]

I have a newfound respect for Geezer.

[tremeloud]

BriGuy7727 wrote:

mikalllica81 wrote:

If people don't want to die in a war don't join the military. People should stop whining. People in the military make a choice to join and sacrifice their lives.
Liberals need to grow up!

Unfortunately the way that the economy works is that sometimes kids can't afford to go to college & the military provides tuition assistance to those that enlist. That's why a lot of people in the military (while they are definitely voluntary) come from poorer families. It's discrimination that is all up & down the US, you just have to pick it out. They go to the army & sacrifice for our country but yet our country still discriminates & people in the White House are too busy giving breaks to the richest of the rich to pay back average citizens.

-----
And to add to that, there seems to a misconception on the military, and that's why you hear about so many soldiers about how shocking and horrible it was. And "People in the military make a choice to join and sacrifice their lives." is the same form of altruistic suicide as the people who suicide bomb, do kamikaze missions, and flew buildings into the Twin Towers. So its a matter of perspective as well

[Jondy]

Syn166 wrote:

Jondy wrote:

PekarGuitar wrote:

There are people going around in airplanes shooting wolves? I feel bad for saying this, but that sounds totally awesome.

*Runs to YouTube to find vids*

i don't think they were shooting them in planes, or even from planes. I think the idea was that they're really rich and can afford planes to take them places to shoot wolves. rich, therefore, the man, therefore evil?

Actually Sarah Palin sold her plane cause she deemed it unnecessary.

well then, there ya go.

[Tulkas]

There's been some really good points and really terrible points made....I suggest you idiots comparing "pro-life" and hunting....such as Geezer....go talk to Terrible Uncle Ted Nugent about this issue so you can rid yourself of ignorance, and get a clue. Besides, Uncle Ted is better player anyway!

[tremeloud]

And on the subject of killing being "ok" when its controlled, and to protect another species, I think if we really cared about the animals we would pack up and leave. I believe that humans are to blame for all the problems on this planet, and without us, there would be a natural circle of life, where there would be a just reason for animals killing animals (survival) and only the strong would survive. Yet we are here causing global warming, deforestation, and I'm not sure of the exact situation in Alaska, but we have been the cause of animals to lose there homes and lives. And this example of killing is for what we want, not what we need. So who the **** are we to dictate what animal should kill other animals when they are doing it for survival, meanwhile we are doing it for selfish reasons? It all goes back to what Geezer said : hypocrites.

[patrickdenneyto]

sarah palin did sell her plane
i'm not exactly sure geezer was trying to bash her, because yes the title is very misleading, if he is, i think he should shut his mouth
he's british!!!!!

[patrickdenneyto]

oh and by the way to "tremeloud" there is no such thing as global warming, its propaganda media bullshit

[radioplay]

Tulkas wrote:

Besides, Uncle Ted is better player anyway!

You cant compare them,they played different instruments. Ones an amazing guitarist, while the other is a great bassist

[kennyvspenny]

i am voting against mccain, not for obama per se.

[tremeloud]

patrickdenneyto wrote:

oh and by the way to "tremeloud" there is no such thing as global warming, its propaganda media bullshit

Yeah I have heard that :P

[dxpaintball8000]

tim western wrote:

Letterbomb11 wrote:

"I am pro all life, not just unborn fetuses. I don't understand people who say they are pro-life, but then support unnecessary wars and the disgusting slaughter of animals for sport. "

What makes even less sense is the fact that a lot of anti-death penalty advocates are pro choice. Not okay to execute murderers, but okay to abort innocent fetuses?


To be fair there is quite a clear difference between a fully grown adult human being and an unborn bundle of cells (the type that is used for stem cell research). Although I don't support the abortion of foetuses that are relatively far through their developement.

Not really. ever hear of partial birth abortion?

[Flying Afros]

Covin wrote:

Beh, just another musician hopping on the bandwagon. Even if it isn't, it's all it seems to be anymore. I wish celebrities would shut up...

Geezer's just expressing his opinion. Hes been like this forever, hes not hopping on this new "bandwagon." I agree exactly with everything he said, its pretty cool.

[St. Vitus]

radioplay wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

Besides, Uncle Ted is better player anyway!

You cant compare them,they played different instruments. Ones an amazing guitarist

ROTFLMAO!

[David_Bowie=GOD]

too many closed minded republicans on this site, I dont have a problem with republicans, but most of them dont care or pay attention to the issues, they just vote because of what their parents have told them growing up and because they dont want slightly higher taxes.

I hate it how people dont take people my age seriously, I know more about politics than many of the idiots who put me down.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

patrickdenneyto wrote:

sarah palin did sell her plane
i'm not exactly sure geezer was trying to bash her, because yes the title is very misleading, if he is, i think he should shut his mouth
he's british!!!!!

Many people from other countries keep up with and are concerned about the election seeing how america loves to "run the whole world" or try to at least.

[vinniebeast]

It would be funny if he wasn't a vegetarian.

[SERIALTRENDKILL]

I love Geezer, but politics shouldn't be discussed by musicians openly. it hurts record sales and tarnishes fans perceptions of their character. Sabbath owns either way though.

[diditfortehlulz]

Geezer is so cool, and wise.

[Insomnia57]

War Pigs, eh geezer?

[Guitarist132]

I thought he hit it

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

I really don't care what the **** a musician has to say about politics. It seems every time they open their mouths to impart us with their glorious opinion, they simply state the same cliché issues that one might hear from a burger flipper/microwave operator at McDonalds.

They have their opinions and every right to speak their minds. However, when some select sentence is spoken by a man who knows relatively little about the subject and that sentence makes headlines or becomes the basis of a news article...it's pathetic.

I'm not arguing with the fact that geezer is speaking his mind nor am I arguing the points he is making (though they are incorrect, uneducated, and cliché). I'm upset with the way a little meaningless opinion is blown way out of proportion and actually adopted as a legitimate political stance by people who happen to be fans of Geezer Butler as a musician.

Basically, I think that a musician's political views should be ignored, as they are by no means 'experts' nor educated on what they preach.

[guitar999111]

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless. theres a big difference between aborting unborn babies and hunting. maybe the dumbest thing ive read since the last time i picked up a Rolling Stone magazine. stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.

Actually if you really are pro-life you shouldn't get to decide who lives and who dies. It seems like you're the one who should stay away from politics. Geezer has is right on.

[JoeLancaster]

Same reason I wouldn't ask Sarah Palin to write an amazing bassline

stick to what you know

[KennethJay]

guitar999111 wrote:

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless. theres a big difference between aborting unborn babies and hunting. maybe the dumbest thing ive read since the last time i picked up a Rolling Stone magazine. stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.
Actually if you really are pro-life you shouldn't get to decide who lives and who dies. It seems like you're the one who should stay away from politics. Geezer has is right on.

If you're really pro life, then you have to be a vegan.

[cristo92]

this guy is a moron he has no idea what hes talking about pro life is about fetuses and what not who cares about hunting other politicians have done crazy stuff thats actually legitamite

[thedarkblues06]

Rock on Geezer. I'd like to slam Sarah Palin myself. Heh. Heh.

[Waterboy799]

if he thinks that hunting is the "slaughtering" of animals and that it's all purely for sport then the guy doesn't know a damn thing about hunting. did you know that if you allow animals such as wolves or deer to keep on breeding, they'll breed so damn much that the land won't be able to hold them all and eventually they'll all die from starvation, disease and malnutrition? Hunters take some of these excess animals out of the equation and allow for the rest to live on. if you let them all live, then more will die from malnutrition than if you hunt them for a few weeks. i'm sure most people don't know that.

[f1sk]

guess we know UGs political standing now

[gwitersnamps]

Waterboy799 wrote:

if he thinks that hunting is the "slaughtering" of animals and that it's all purely for sport then the guy doesn't know a damn thing about hunting. did you know that if you allow animals such as wolves or deer to keep on breeding, they'll breed so damn much that the land won't be able to hold them all and eventually they'll all die from starvation, disease and malnutrition? Hunters take some of these excess animals out of the equation and allow for the rest to live on. if you let them all live, then more will die from malnutrition than if you hunt them for a few weeks. i'm sure most people don't know that.

Wolf populations did just fine before we showed up with guns.

[tayloaw0]

Tulkas wrote:

Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

Because they were protected for so long, wolves are over populated in Alaska, hence their killing for sport. If their population goes unchecked, deer, muse, caribou, etc. populations will decline upsetting the balance of nature.

Upsetting the balance of nature? Humans interfering with nature in the first place is upsetting the balance of nature. Species have been dying for millions of years and over 90% of all the species that have ever existed are extinct. Gone--the majority before humans were even a fart on the evolutionary time scale. We just keep them alive so we can waddle around zoos with fanny packs around our fat waists and stare at miserable animals in tiny concrete squares that wish we had just let them die peacefully.

And I'm sure these nature loving Alaskans are just killing wolves so that the next time one looks out in the backyard and sees a moose taking a 10 pound shit, he'll wipe a tear away from his face and think "Man, am I righteous".

Bullshit, he'll shoot the friggin' thing.

[Artemis Entreri]

Woo Geezer! You get 100 life points. A+

[Nathan_393]

Geezer might not be wholly right on this, but respect for talking about his beliefs in the media. That's a tough move to make sometime. Respect!

[soBLINKad]

tayloaw0 wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

Because they were protected for so long, wolves are over populated in Alaska, hence their killing for sport. If their population goes unchecked, deer, muse, caribou, etc. populations will decline upsetting the balance of nature.

Upsetting the balance of nature? Humans interfering with nature in the first place is upsetting the balance of nature. Species have been dying for millions of years and over 90% of all the species that have ever existed are extinct. Gone--the majority before humans were even a fart on the evolutionary time scale. We just keep them alive so we can waddle around zoos with fanny packs around our fat waists and stare at miserable animals in tiny concrete squares that wish we had just let them die peacefully.

And I'm sure these nature loving Alaskans are just killing wolves so that the next time one looks out in the backyard and sees a moose taking a 10 pound shit, he'll wipe a tear away from his face and think "Man, am I righteous".

Bullshit, he'll shoot the friggin' thing.

true, animals went extinct by themselves, as you said, before humans were on the earth. but now that were here, weve screwed stuff up by killing habitats of ainmals that are food for other animals, forcing them to choose different prey, etc. so we need to keep animals populations in check or else well have wolves running around in residential areas, which has actually happened quite a few times recently in alaska.

and geezers retarded for comparing hunting to abortion. animals are different than fetuses. if a fetus isnt human, than wtf is it? an animal? obviously not or geezer would be having a fit about that as well

[Pepperommi]

GEEZER!!!

[HughF]

I'm glad we're basing our arguments off of the bass player from Black Sabbath. Who gives a flying ****?

[grungemusic]

obama 08

[BlackMagic17]

cool.
i'm a resident of alaska, and quite honestly, no one really likes hunting from airplanes. right now there's a measure proposal to make hunting like that illegal. It is extremely hard to obtain a permit to hunt from an airplane right now, and we are pretty close to ending it altogether. HOWEVER killing wolves in general to balance the population is something that is a NECESSITY in alaska. there are thousands of people that feed their families by subsistence hunting animals like moose and deer. The natural balance of predator vs prey is something that always rises and falls. Sometimes, wolves are a thriving population, other times, the prey of wolves are the thriving population. We enjoy it when there is plenty of game in alaska. In fact, some of us DEPEND on it. If the populations of game animals fall low, we need to solve it NOW, not wait for nature to sort it out. We do this by eliminating the predator, because that is the only way. Wolves may lose their lives, but we would rather that those of us who choose to live a simple life in the wilderness can do so, because one of the beauties of alaska is that it's the last frontier. There are almost no places in the rest of the united states that a person can live in seclusion, surrounded by nature. Killing wolves is just another way to ensure that everyone can live their life the way they want it, like is promised to us in our country's constitution. The state is in charge of taking care of PEOPLE first. Animals come after this.
Geezer Butler is an amazing musician. His accomplishments cannot be disputed, as he was part of pioneering an awesome genre. Furthermore, he is entitled to his own opinion, as every person is. However, he should wait until he is more informed on a topic to make a statement against it.
Governor Palin is be able to get the gears and wheels of the state congress moving in order to approve a measure like this. Someone did it before her, though. She has the power to veto laws against airplane hunting, but i've heard no indication that she would want to veto a law that prevents unfair and unsportsman-like hunting.
Until you understand the limits of the power of a state governor, you shouldn't make a statement condemning her for not single-handedly ending a practice that has been happening for years.
Furthermore, pro-life is a stance on the subject of ABORTION. It is a term that means the belief that all children should be allowed to be born into the world, and not killed before they have the chance to live life. Being pro-life has nothing to do with animal conservation.
Sorry I ranted. Alaska's been taking a lot of criticism in the past week because the media doesn't agree with John McCain's choice of a running mate. They wouldn't be criticizing us if they understood any of the issues they're bringing up half as well as someone like me, a junior and high school.

[Melonhead2]

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Wolf populations did just fine before we showed up with guns.

word

I'd love to have an intelligent conversation with anyone who's voting for McCain.

wait a minute...ain't gonna happen

[merkalos666]

the wolf population keeps the deer population under control. oh, and i hate the sound of sarah palin's voice!

[Useful_Idiot16]

shattamakar wrote:

completely agree with what he said..a little over emphatic nevertheless.....,.., ..suck it republi****s.,.obama all the way

Wow this kid looks so smart, I'm looking up to this guy for my political views from now on I can tell you that.

[Banana King]

Ah, the presidential election. It never fails to piss me off when ignorant people think they're right and try to push their ideals on people.

It's a little more acceptable here, but c'mon, let's stay on topic.

[pootoob]

Waterboy799 wrote:

if he thinks that hunting is the "slaughtering" of animals and that it's all purely for sport then the guy doesn't know a damn thing about hunting. did you know that if you allow animals such as wolves or deer to keep on breeding, they'll breed so damn much that the land won't be able to hold them all and eventually they'll all die from starvation, disease and malnutrition? Hunters take some of these excess animals out of the equation and allow for the rest to live on. if you let them all live, then more will die from malnutrition than if you hunt them for a few weeks. i'm sure most people don't know that.

Because, as we all know, there is a huge excess of bears running around the world, so hunters are like better than all of us, cos they are keeping bear population all over the world in check...

Oh wait the bear is an endangered species. But that won't stop hunters. You fail.

[shadowsoverhell]

i respect the hell out of geezer, and i love his music, however... this isnt your country, youve got no reason to give a damn what goes on here so long as we book you for tours. and just cuz i'm a us citizen doesnt make me a hypocrite for sayin that, i dont think anybody has any business in anybody elses business. second off, just cuz a guy may be a great musician and shit doesnt mean his opinion is extra special.

[The Stormrider]

I don't really think Geezer is slamming Palin.

Again, I've said this millions of times, in this election, we gotta ignore the minor politics. We need to elect the candidate that is most fit to lead the country.
That would be McCain X]

[ServantofBurzum]

I'll give my opinion, since this is a blog about nature. Humans are parasites. What have we ever done that was NOT in the name of science, war, or simply making ourselves more comfortable? We're like dictators who commit genocide, except we could change by logging on to a website and seeing how we could make the world a little cleaner. But there is hope, because nature is taking a much bigger part in the political spectrum than it was 20 years ago. Oil and overpopulation is really the only thing that bothers me. Oil because America is probaly the most powerful country in the world, and we put our faith in such a flawed energy source. Overpopulation because third world countries are expanding economically, and it seems like there givermonts dont care about mother nature as much as they should. BTW it was hilarious how our governmont criticized Russia for invading Jordan when we invaded Afghanistan AND Iraq, killing thousands of civilians. Sadly, it seems that because of America's pursuit of greed, the middle east became a battleground. That's my opinion,and I'm not an anarchist, I swear. Just think the governmont could do a better job in the future.

[ServantofBurzum]

[quote]Letterbomb11 wrote:

"I am pro all life, not just unborn fetuses. I don't understand people who say they are pro-life, but then support unnecessary wars and the disgusting slaughter of animals for sport. "

What makes even less sense is the fact that a lot of anti-death penalty advocates are pro choice. Not okay to execute murderers, but okay to abort innocent fetuses?[/quote
Killers deserve to die, not rot away in prison and get out on probation 20 years later. There are consequences to your actions, and they should feel the consequences via a needle in the arm. Same thing with rapists. If I knew for certain that they would put a poison in me that would kill me, murder and rape would be low on my to do list. Or maybe stoning, lol. It's funny because our governmont has caused so much death by giving assistance to invaded countries. We should not interfere, people are allowing hearts and passions to make choices for them.

Checked

[SharpObject]

Yea Geezer!

And you were awesome at Metal Masters

[bassmanjake]

I'm from bristol bay alaska the salmon capital of the world, i lived in a totally isolated town of less than 50 year round residents for 18 years (yep thats 35 people to be exact) no i dont live in an igloo, no i dont ride a polar bear to work, but yes i do hunt. I can tell you that you don't have to be rich to own a plane in alaska... its more a part of life.. its especially easy to own a plane when you don't have 2 cars or even 1. I myself own a plane that I bought when I was a sophmore in high school... I soloed at age 15, yes thats illegal, yes yes yes, but this is the wild west. I don't go around hunting out of season or anything, and i dont kill anybody. But we definitely dance to the beat of our own drum. Many of us own planes as our fathers and mothers moved up here in the 70s to experience alaska and fish and what not... back then planes would sell for under 2000 dollars... Anyways, I have met Sarah Palin and I absolutely adore her, her husband was born and raised in a town just 50 miles from where I sit at the moment... my friends dad used to play basketball against him in the 80s. Anyways, it sucks to see someone that you know, respect, and adore get into national politics and instantly be hated by so many people. She is an actual real person... a REAL person. Back on topic... Wolf hunting from planes is pretty lame... but its not so much hunting as it is predator control... which they wouldn't have to do if they didn't protect the things so much. But they were forced to because douchebags would trap and hunt the hell out of those wolves to make a buck.. and with nothing to stop them they just went ahead full speed. Unfortunately these are the consequences: overpopulation of wolves. I don't know the solution, I don't pretend to, whatever the solution may be, I advise everyone to not jump on the hate wagon and damning everyone for their beliefs and opinions. Besides... we're all here to play guitar and talk about it anyways right?

[LegsOnEarth]

Hes damn right. All hunting is plain wrong and against nature in every way.

[deadkenedy]

Yes. We should all listen to this man. He cares for 'fetuses' - whatever they are.

[hiddeninromance]

I heard Palin was rejected from the nazi party for being too right wing.

[gopherthegreat]

LegsOnEarth wrote:

Hes damn right. All hunting is plain wrong and against nature in every way.

He didn't say anything about hunting for food. Hunting for food is much more humane than any meat in a store.

He is 100% right, imo.

[SkidRow92]

Ackj wrote:

wolf hunting is the largest problem in the US?

even if it is, Obama/Biden havent really saved those wolves either

amen to that broseph!

[chickrawker]

people need to hunt to keep the population under control... but at least he shoots. thats something...

[Sp00nman94]

atta boy geez

[in2thesun88]

wouldn't that be a great conversation between Geexer and Ted Nugent

[in2thesun88]

Geezer*** sry bout the typo

[RGshred88]

mikalllica81 :
If people don't want to die in a war don't join the military. People should stop whining. People in the military make a choice to join and sacrifice their lives.
Liberals need to grow up!





You're right...people choose to join the military. However people are whining because this current Iraq war is a disgusting attempt to flex our military muscles and take over the oil industry so the rich can get richer. And do not say I am unpatriotic as you conservatives throw around because it is more unpatriotic to back a president or any politician who cares more about themselves and their party than the country (which is most on both parties).
If a war is actually WORTH fighting for....many more would join and far less would be complaining. So on the contrary, conservatives need to grow up.

[RGshred88]

ServantofBurzum :
I'll give my opinion, since this is a blog about nature. Humans are parasites. What have we ever done that was NOT in the name of science, war, or simply making ourselves more comfortable? We're like dictators who commit genocide, except we could change by logging on to a website and seeing how we could make the world a little cleaner. But there is hope, because nature is taking a much bigger part in the political spectrum than it was 20 years ago. Oil and overpopulation is really the only thing that bothers me. Oil because America is probaly the most powerful country in the world, and we put our faith in such a flawed energy source. Overpopulation because third world countries are expanding economically, and it seems like there givermonts dont care about mother nature as much as they should. BTW it was hilarious how our governmont criticized Russia for invading Jordan when we invaded Afghanistan AND Iraq, killing thousands of civilians. Sadly, it seems that because of America's pursuit of greed, the middle east became a battleground. That's my opinion,and I'm not an anarchist, I swear. Just think the governmont could do a better job in the future.




I agree 100%
...and no I do not think you are an anarchist...you have an open mind

[Whit_f-ing_ROX]

another hollywood fool

[ServantofBurzum]

It's kind of sad to veiw the state of our country right now in my opinion. It's sad to see inner city kids killing each other all the time. I think the war was a huge mistake, because first and foremost, Americans should come first, and I mean all races, not just rich white people. It seems like were putting so much into making Iraqi lives better when why should we? So the governmont can steal more oil, which WILL run out eventually? Sorry, kind of went off topic. Is there a politics blog on UG? If so I must find it.

[Tulkas]

tayloaw0 wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

Because they were protected for so long, wolves are over populated in Alaska, hence their killing for sport. If their population goes unchecked, deer, muse, caribou, etc. populations will decline upsetting the balance of nature.

Upsetting the balance of nature? Humans interfering with nature in the first place is upsetting the balance of nature. Species have been dying for millions of years and over 90% of all the species that have ever existed are extinct. Gone--the majority before humans were even a fart on the evolutionary time scale. We just keep them alive so we can waddle around zoos with fanny packs around our fat waists and stare at miserable animals in tiny concrete squares that wish we had just let them die peacefully.

And I'm sure these nature loving Alaskans are just killing wolves so that the next time one looks out in the backyard and sees a moose taking a 10 pound shit, he'll wipe a tear away from his face and think "Man, am I righteous".

Bullshit, he'll shoot the friggin' thing.

Again: Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

[Tulkas]

radioplay wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

Besides, Uncle Ted is better player anyway!

You cant compare them,they played different instruments. Ones an amazing guitarist, while the other is a great bassist

Do you really think Ted Nugent can't play bass? Are you serious?

[SkidRow92]

Where's the celebrities bashing the democrats?...other than ted nugent which is a given

[the1leftbehind]

well im a long time Sabbath fan and have mucho respect for Geezer. I was on the McCain/Palin ticket in my opinion, however I must admit in this aspect Geezer is right it is very hypocrytical to say you are pro life and then kill animals.

[jimshred]

Right on Geezer. But Sarah Palin didn't just "allow" it to happen in her state, she PAID those people to kill the wolves.

http://jimdelrio.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palins-evil- killing-of-wolves.html

[Randompzycho]

yutyoy wrote:

False!... Geezer is clueless. theres a big difference between aborting unborn babies and hunting. maybe the dumbest thing ive read since the last time i picked up a Rolling Stone magazine. stick to rockin, polatics obviously arent for you.

Why do you claim something is false if in all reality you just disagree with an opinion.
But i agree with Geezer that "God/Nature has created a beautiful earth, and populated it with beautiful creatures, and i believe that all life is miraculous." Honestly I probably wouldn't have worded much differently.

[Randompzycho]

Waterboy799 wrote:

if he thinks that hunting is the "slaughtering" of animals and that it's all purely for sport then the guy doesn't know a damn thing about hunting. did you know that if you allow animals such as wolves or deer to keep on breeding, they'll breed so damn much that the land won't be able to hold them all and eventually they'll all die from starvation, disease and malnutrition? Hunters take some of these excess animals out of the equation and allow for the rest to live on. if you let them all live, then more will die from malnutrition than if you hunt them for a few weeks. i'm sure most people don't know that.

Tulkas wrote:

Typical ignorant comments from the uninformed.

Because they were protected for so long, wolves are over populated in Alaska, hence their killing for sport. If their population goes unchecked, deer, muse, caribou, etc. populations will decline upsetting the balance of nature.

I hate both of you, really though, I hate anyone who uses population control as a justification for hunting.

Vegetarian power.

[astonhemmings]

SkidRow92 wrote:

Where's the celebrities bashing the democrats?...other than ted nugent which is a given

Joe Perry of Aerosmith is a pretty die hard Republican.

[ShortFatBoy]

shattamakar is a frickin idiot..if he knows what pro life means he would know that Obama is not pro life at all..as for his other comment "thank satan for geezer" that was just stupid..i hate people..

[avenged24]

all you ass-holes who are agreeing with geezer are ****ing dumbasses they wolfs are not killed for "sport" there killed to control the population and ecosystem

just stick to music geezer