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Green Day Leave Indie Label

artist: green day date: 08/04/2005 category: general music news
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Green Day Leave Indie Label

Punk trio Green Day has pulled its pre-1994 catalog from the San Francisco indie label Lookout! Records, according to Reuters.

A posting on the Lookout! web site does not cite a reason for the split; a report on the Punknews.org site this week said the label has failed to pay the band back royalties for the two albums and two EPs.

Green Day's most recent Reprise/Warner Bros. album, "American Idiot," has sold 3.8 million copies.

POSTED: 08/04/2005 - 04:38 am
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comments policy  83  comments posted
     
jklsadj;sadjfak wrote on 08/04/2005 - 02:58 pm / quote |
bagh, green day was giving em charity. lookouts been going under forever. i donno, i really wouldve liked to see em stay on, supposebly lookout had to lay off 6 people because of the green day thing leaving thing.
     
Adarsh wrote on 08/04/2005 - 07:47 am / quote |
weird.....green day's best albums came from Lookout!!!!
     
millenman wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:00 am / quote |
money money money
     
atc228 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:13 am / quote |
ehh, i see "sell out" comments in the not so distant future

o well, i guess they can do whatever they want, i mean if they arent getting paid royalties for their music.....
     
LoveIsOverrated wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:15 am / quote |
***ing "punk" stars
     
PinkFender_69 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:22 am / quote |
Poor lookout, at least they still have Green Day. O right
     
leaping badger wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:28 am / quote |
Fair enough, if their not getting money for their work they should leave them.
     
Diabolic Clown wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:33 am / quote |
Yeah, but that label produced their label and probably made Green Day what they are today (Sellouts). Green Day would have gone no where without them.
     
-TeddyNapperFi- wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:36 am / quote |
Diabolic Clown, I highly doubt Greenday would have gone nowhere without Lookout. Lookout didn't write or play the songs.
     
Diabolic Clown wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:55 am / quote |
No, but they gave them the oppurtunity to show themselves and they got their music out there.
     
GAC1989 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:04 am / quote |
yer but its pretty obvuious that record comapnies just wanna rape all they can out of bands and make money
     
tydhurst wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:18 am / quote |
It doesn't matter whether or not "Lookout Records" got them to where they are today or not. When Green Day signed to a major label they lt Lookout keep the rights to the albums they did there, knowing that it would earn Lookout a LOT of money. And in return, Lookout decides to NOT pay the band what they owe them, and that isn't right regardless of how much money Green Day have already.
     
Encore_God wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:30 am / quote |
Someone explain to me how Green Day are 'sellouts'?
     
Stevethegreat wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:35 am / quote |
http://www.geocities.com/asfo_del/weasel.html

Theyve been ripping Screeching Weasel too, not to mention other bands. Lookout! is a pretty shit label nowadays.
     
likesilverr wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:37 am / quote |
Someone explain to me how Green Day are 'sellouts'?


because they were at one time playing music because they loved to. they would sing songs about heartbreak and getting stoned. all they do now is sing about politics - because thats where the money is.

so, the term 'sellout' is used because they are selling to music for the money, not because its from the heart.
     
Cameo wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:51 am / quote |
because they were at one time playing music because they loved to. they would sing songs about heartbreak and getting stoned. all they do now is sing about politics - because thats where the money is.

so, the term 'sellout' is used because they are selling to music for the money, not because its from the heart.


I love how you know exactly what kind of music green day enjoys making...
     
dookedoutnimrod wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:59 am / quote |
all they do now is sing about politics

oh yeah righ ***twat, american idiot and holiday are the only poltical songs on american idiot, and of course they still love playing music,otherwhise they wouldnt do it.
     
minorbravo wrote on 08/04/2005 - 10:31 am / quote |
who cares they suck anyway.
     
RedGibsonSG wrote on 08/04/2005 - 10:33 am / quote |
Green Day aren't sell outs.
They're just practicing AGAINST what they preach.
They're greedy.
     
^(^.^<)(>^.^)^ wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:07 am / quote |
And they don't just sing about politics fools. Boulevard is not about politics...st.jimmy....i think american idiot is the only political song on the album...o_O
     
Pyro128 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:09 am / quote |
I miss the good old green day back in '94...
     
XxXgUiTaRxXx wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:41 am / quote |
hmmm... billie joe looks like lars urlich in that picture.... both ***in' sellouts
     
Phoenixblade wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:43 am / quote |
I agree with minorbravo.

They prolly did it to get a more well-paying deal on the material.
     
Greenday389 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:44 am / quote |
just because they made one politicle song it dosnt mean they are sell-outs.only jack-offs,jack-asses,and people who dont like Green Day believe they are sell-outs.
     
guitarpimp89 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:46 am / quote |
Wtf Greenday! Whats is happening to you! Damnit, all three of yall are flippin' filthy rich from doing something that you love, yet you have to get every last dollar out of it. I love you guys, but come on.
     
PumpkinsPunk wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:56 am / quote |
I just needed something to read while I scratched my ass, but now that i'm done i'll read something more important to the world.
     
Unourrit01 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:59 am / quote |
american idiot is not the only political song on that cd. a lot of songs have political meaning behind it. i know for a fact that holiday and jesus of suburbia are political
     
sadistic_monkey wrote on 08/04/2005 - 12:24 pm / quote |
Most of the songs on the album aren't that political, more of a social commentary. Apart from Holiday, which is anti war, not anti government.
     
amp_322 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 12:36 pm / quote |
that really sucks, especially for the kids that haven't checked out the earlier material.....or maybe it means they're gonna re-record it better on Reprise. THAT would be cool.
     
weezergeek182 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 12:40 pm / quote |
If lookout were punk they wouldn't WANT green day
     
life_247 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 12:43 pm / quote |
^lol.

Fair enough though, if someone aint paying you, you go ***ing collect
     
Kornbizkit5190 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 12:56 pm / quote |
that sucks, lookouts green day catalogue was sick
     
im not mental wrote on 08/04/2005 - 01:04 pm / quote |
shame for lookout.
     
feesk8ordie wrote on 08/04/2005 - 01:05 pm / quote |
green day are sellouts because billie joe appeared on the front of top of the pops magazine alongside charlotte church and rachel stevens. also, so what if lookout can't pay green day the money, like they don't have enough. the fact that money rules over music in green days priorities proves they are sellouts.

also, has anyone heard or seen the video to wake me up? worst song and video ever, and i dont just mean by green day...
     
guitardude11 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 01:21 pm / quote |
OMFG, its there f***.. music and they should get payed for it nomatter what. if a label did that to me and my band i would do the same thing. it doesnt matter how much $$ they got now.
     
supersonic23 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 01:46 pm / quote |
ok that was a sell out move by green day
     
GITARISTofDEATH wrote on 08/04/2005 - 01:59 pm / quote |
Lookout! is a pretty shit label nowadays.

not true. there's still good bands there, especially ted leo + pharmacists.
     
THC-Llama wrote on 08/04/2005 - 02:28 pm / quote |
damn greenday used to be so cool now it seems like its just about the money thats gay cus ive been defending greenday to everyone on this site even tho the record company did them wrong record companies do lots of people wrong and im sure greenday are well off enough to not need anymore money thats so lame
     
GnRrelease_it wrote on 08/04/2005 - 03:02 pm / quote |
"so, the term 'sellout' is used because they are selling to music for the money, not because its from the heart.
[POSTED: 04 August 2005 - 09:37]| "

^^^i don't even like green day, but how the hell do you know what their motivation is when they write?

could it be possible...brace yourself now...that they write political lyrics because they have strong views that they wish to communicate?
     
badfish1989 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 03:35 pm / quote |
theyre not selling out, the company failed to do what they said they did, besides it probably wasnt even greendays choice it was probably their managment
     
neev wrote on 08/04/2005 - 03:37 pm / quote |
i like gds music but i dont really like them as people - especially billie joe
     
FenderStrat1337 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 04:01 pm / quote |
I really like Green Day's music, but I hate how theyve been acting lately...

The mascara, their clothes, the numerous MTV appearences, touring with all these shitty emo bands, and now their upset about "royalties" after selling 3.8 million albums..... They gotta face the facts: if Lookout hadnt signed them they never even would have sold 1,000 records.

It also looks as if Lookout is gonna have to shut down, simce they laid off 2/3 of their staff and arent planning on releasing any music for a while (who woulda guessed that the label that brought us Green Day, Rancid, and most importantly, Operation Ivy would have to maybe close down)
     
monkeyspks wrote on 08/04/2005 - 04:12 pm / quote |
billie joe's ego has grown within the past couple of years. but i don't think they sold out. lookout got lots of bands famous... i think it's sad.
     
mrbassman wrote on 08/04/2005 - 04:23 pm / quote |
all the big bands are sellouts
     
Ahh Shaith wrote on 08/04/2005 - 05:00 pm / quote |
I despise Green Day. And I want to hit Billie Joe in the face with a shovel. Just look at his little shitfaced grin.(Not the picture up there, he just looks like a dumbass up there) He's so full of it...
     
element94 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 05:02 pm / quote |
GnRrelease_it thank you for being intelligent lol.

its lookout's own damn fault, they should have paid them. that's how stuff works.
     
Ed Vedder19 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 05:13 pm / quote |
bands just cant have commercial success without being called a sellout. and about lookout, wow....you gotta pay the royalties they deserve, thats a gimme
     
hoobariffer87 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 05:39 pm / quote |
I guess John Melloncamp is a sellout for his "Born in the U.S.A.", if writing political stuff makes you a sellout. Green Day has grown up, and realized that there are bigger issues in life than getting stoned. They still write what they feel, they just feel more mature than all you retards who can't stomach songs with a deep meaning.
     
The Mofaster wrote on 08/04/2005 - 06:03 pm / quote |
Look here's the deal... Green Day got big because the music they wrote just appealed to more and more people. The people bought their music and thus they became big. It's not Green Day's fault that their music just appealed to the masses. And as for the Indie Label, i truly think Indie Label's are great at what they do, giving small bands a chance out there... but u gotta pay the bands their fair share. Its that simple.
     
clazz wrote on 08/04/2005 - 07:16 pm / quote |
They wrote the songs, they deserve to be paid for it. No matter how much money they have, they still need to be rewarded for writing songs. Wouldn't you all be slightly pissed off if you wrote 30-40 odd songs and were getting ripped off?
     
jimmcs2000 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 06:34 pm / quote |
When greenday signed with warner brothers for dookie. They explicitly said that they wanted the pre 1994 stuff to stay with lookout (because that's who got them going). And in return lookout! didn't ***ing pay them. Green day are not greedy sellouts, they just don't want to give their product away for free. Oh and by the way all you so called punks, PUNK HAS ALWAYS BEEN POLITICAL-ever hear of sex pistols, dead kennedy's, bad religion. Maybe we need a PUNK history lesson. Oh and drink , get high, and kick ass. Not emo fag "punk".
     
jimmcs2000 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 07:00 pm / quote |
Oh, and one last thing, If any of you have heard of a band-they sold out. Making money on artistic expression is selling out. Tool has a song about it but i can't remember (thc). Just keep playing and don't worry so much about these bands. We don't get to help make their decisions anyway. Sorry i talk too much. PEACE!!
     
lindex wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:02 pm / quote |

likesilverr:
Someone explain to me how Green Day are 'sellouts'?


because they were at one time playing music because they loved to. they would sing songs about heartbreak and getting stoned. all they do now is sing about politics - because thats where the money is.

so, the term 'sellout' is used because they are selling to music for the money, not because its from the heart.
[POSTED: 04 August 2005 - 09:37]|


Um, maybe they just grew up?
Did you think about that one?
     
Fighting Foo wrote on 08/04/2005 - 08:32 pm / quote |
who gives a *** if they sold out, so they wanna get paid for wat they do, theres nothing wrong with that, as long as the music still good then who cares
     
pistols wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:00 pm / quote |
How many times in the past fortnight have there been articles about green day? I don't care
     
kilog55 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:07 pm / quote |
they sucked balls since day one, and all the wanna be punk kids do to, if you follow green gay your are in fact gay power chord loving "idiots"
     
A Warm Place wrote on 08/04/2005 - 09:24 pm / quote |
Any band that has anything to do with the mainstream has technically "sold out," but who gives a ***? Just go with your heart. Even though this whole deal makes Green Day seem greedy, that record company didn't pay them, which is greedy in itself, so even though Green Day are already rich, they deserve to be paid because they made that music. I get really sick of the ***ers in here who don't think this shit out. Jesus...
     
pumpkins_rule wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:08 pm / quote |
Yeah but isn't everyone a sellout? Everyone gets a job eventualy instead of living with their parents until they die...
     
rjc_15 wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:11 pm / quote |
I can say that I don't especially like the American Idiot album as much as I liked, say, Dookie. I'm not really the biggest fan at all, but I can't really see how they can be that greedy. However, if I were in that situation, I can't say that I would do things much differently, money has a habit of changing people.
     
ionlylookscary wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:26 pm / quote |
i dont think theyre sell outs, alot of people just say that cause theyre really popular...so what
     
gnr_maiden_dc wrote on 08/04/2005 - 11:50 pm / quote |
it puts bread on the table.....
     
TheUnforgiven1 wrote on 08/05/2005 - 12:23 am / quote |
Who f***ing cares?
     
redhotsexmagic wrote on 08/05/2005 - 12:51 am / quote |
exactly...out of all that shit...who ***ing cares
     
Metallica420 wrote on 08/05/2005 - 01:11 am / quote |
wow, this is really not that interesting.
Peace
     
Metallica420 wrote on 08/05/2005 - 01:12 am / quote |
wow, this is really not that interesting.
Peace
     
Brummy wrote on 08/05/2005 - 03:31 am / quote |
Soooo..... if what you're saying is true. About Green Day being sellouts by writing political songs, then doesn't it follow that The Clash, Sex Pistols et al are sellouts too. I think you should all get your heads out of your arses and make your own music if you think you know what you are talking about! I hate it when people hear a single by a band and then rip on the whole album without hearing it. and if you did buy the album... WHY? If you clearly hate them so much.
     
dandesmond wrote on 08/05/2005 - 04:01 am / quote |
I think you guyz need to chill out on the sell outs. Green Day have done well to make popular music, and fair enough if they make money for it. If their nto getting what their owed, they should kick something up. And if their writing music their fans like, I guess thats all that should matter to the fans.

I dont care if Green Day are sellouts, I still enjoy their music and goings to gigs.
     
rockinlewis wrote on 08/05/2005 - 04:45 am / quote |
I hate green day, with their "we are the best" attitude. *cough*sellouts*cough*
     
MoshMaster101 wrote on 08/05/2005 - 04:57 am / quote |
I totally agree with Brummy! Rock on.
     
emhaslam wrote on 08/05/2005 - 05:33 am / quote |
They got enuf money, dont know wot their complainin about
     
punk_pwincess wrote on 08/05/2005 - 05:38 am / quote |
^^ i reckon...
if you dont like green day, you shouldnt be writing about them. Dont you have better things to do??
     
punk_pwincess wrote on 08/05/2005 - 05:39 am / quote |
-that msg was to MoshMaster101^^
     
Davidleerothsha wrote on 08/05/2005 - 07:00 am / quote |
If Lookout ain't living up to their end of the contract, then Green Day should walk, pull their music & sue the crap out of them. That ain't selling out, that is doing what is right.
     
disasterpiece11 wrote on 08/06/2005 - 11:43 am / quote |
Green Day makes music for a living, it's their job, if your not gettin paid for your hard work, no matter where you work would you wanna waste your time on that job or look for a new one?
     
disasterpiece11 wrote on 08/06/2005 - 11:48 am / quote |
They are NOT sellouts for doing what's right
     
Guitarist1991 wrote on 08/08/2005 - 08:29 am / quote |
dats a bummer cuz da lookout albums are amazin
     
laneychief wrote on 08/08/2005 - 03:29 pm / quote |
Greenday are fools they are now to big for their boots they are now just sellouts dookie was their best album and now they are posey soft rock idiots theyve lost the punk they they are losers
     
virginrealities wrote on 08/13/2005 - 04:38 pm / quote |
I couldn't give half a crap about whether Green Day are sellouts or not. I still don't like them.
     
GDMCRfan wrote on 08/13/2005 - 08:11 pm / quote |
I agree with disasterpiece11...I think it is so friggin stupid for a fan to turn their back on their favorite band because they become "sell outs"...if the music changes, fine but green day still have creative control on all music and lyrics...its still them! They're just able to get more records out and reach more people through a bigger label..whatever, the true fans will stick by them and nobody else matters
     
Pumpkins4Life wrote on 08/15/2005 - 10:39 am / quote |
Green Day has grown up


yeah green day is making nothing but mature music these days, someone explain how music for depressed twelve year olds is mature
     
GDMCRfan wrote on 08/15/2005 - 04:04 pm / quote |
you call their music, music for depressed 12 year olds? ummm...how so? Do you even understand the full concept of this album? Have you listened to the entire album? To write something like that in unbelievable...I hate it when people form opinions based on the few songs they've heard...you cannot listen to the 4 singles the band has out and fully grasp the entire album...some of you just dont get it...
     
selloutpunx wrote on 08/16/2005 - 11:21 am / quote |
i guess not wanting to write about the same shit for 16 years straight makes you a pretty big sell out. i've said it many times, you people are ***ing stupid.
     
TheFigTree wrote on 08/28/2005 - 11:53 pm / quote |
Punk_Pwincess, that was a silly thing to say. Just because one does not like Green Day does not mean they are not entitled to stating their opinion about the band. It is called POINT OF VIEW, which is something you should look into on your own time.

I feel no need to apologize to anyone as I state this: I hate Green Day, and I am thankful I can now confirm this as true. Sadly, I have given their petty little songs enough chances as I feel I should, and yet...I find them nothing but a "Sell Out" band. Of course, we all have our opinions, and here is mine...Green Day is a terrible, terrible band. The Poser Age is upon us, and this band is provoking it. If they had some sort of talent that would appeal to me, perhaps I would reconsider the harsh words I have written...But sadly, they do not. I wouldn't say I'm against the Age of Alternative Bands, Punk, Rock, etc. After all, I might say I've even taken a liking towards some of the bands, such as My Chemical Romance...Though I listen thoroughly to the lyrics of songs written, and if they seem to be the sappy, "Buy our albums and we'll change your life", ordeal, then no thank you. Even if Green Day did seem to be a talented group, I would consider them a bit too popular for me. Another thing that irritates me about Green Day is how many of the fans I've crossed paths with don't seem to like Green Day for what they are...only for the lead singer, whose name I do not care to look up. This may be the truth for all bands, but I despise the way people claim to be Green Day fans, simply because they've taken a liking towards the lead singer they find physically attractive...therefore luring them into the endless crowd. Pathetic. In any case, I suppose people will adore who they adore, and nothing else can be said of the subject. As for me, I've done enough researching to come to this conclusion. Hate me if you will for strongly disliking a band that you seem to adore, though it is likely I'll never see this page again, anyway. Hey, it's simply how I see things from my perspective. Here's a suggestion, if you have a problem with my commentary. Solve it.
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