Green Day On Broadway Insist They Are Still Punk

US punk rock band Green Day may be debuting their new musical on mainstream Broadway this week, but the trio says they aren't turning soft but following a natural progression from their 2004 album "American Idiot", reports Yahoo News.

The band's new musical, which carries the same name and songs from that blockbuster Grammy-winning album, opens on Broadway on Tuesday evening.

"This is not 'Oklahoma' - it's 'American Idiot'," singer Billie Joe Armstrong told Reuters in an interview. "It's live and right in your face, flesh and blood."

The band was joined by the show's cast, as well as a number of celebrity fans like Donald Trump, Zachary Quinto and Paul Rudd to celebrate the show's debut.

Admittedly, having a Broadway show might be the least punk rock thing in the universe, but Green Day couldn't have been prouder to see all their hard work hit that stage and rock up midtown Manhattan. "I don't think there's ever been a bigger high in the 21 years that we've been a band together," Billie Joe Armstrong told MTV News on the red carpet before the curtain rose on the show.

The show follows the lives of three disaffected, post-9/11 youth and features sex, drugs and the ravages of war. It includes all the songs from "American Idiot," some hits from their 20O9 album "21st Century Breakdown" such as the single "Know Your Enemy," and a few new.

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Comments

[badfish2829]

Well, good for them. Go down whatever path. Doesn't affect my life in one way or another.

[ParasiticTwins]

Can't help but laugh really.

[NorCalLos]

Where's the part where they "insist they're still punk?"

[Burgery]

I lolololol'd when i read the title.

[artistmachine]

I don't think they insisted anywhere that they were punk. regardless, this will arise enough flaming to last UG for the day.

[[x]Huffy[x]]

Green Day are not punk.

[Metalology]

If you have to insist, then you're not.

[Private Eye]

Um...I have news for you Green Day...you haven't been punk for, oh say, at least 13 years. Not to mention it's been 10 since your last solid album...

[xXParanoiaXx]

They haven't been.. Hello American Idiot, goodbye integrity.

[redhotsexmagic]

they deserve whatever success they get and deserve to be proud of it. people will say whatever punk band becomes successful is no longer punk so screw them.

[kcunningham820]

They have a huge enough fan-base that even if this musical was a gigantic flop they would still have fans that love their music.

[popeslayer]

damn you UG and your misleading headlines!!
but yea that musical sounds goofy

[Sid McCall]

NorCalLos wrote:

Where's the part where they "insist they're still punk?"

That's the part where UG does not practice proper journalism, and they write things to get your attention and bring visitors to the site to raise advertising revenue. By giving relatively pointless news articles about controversial bands a slanted title, they get a ton of attention and people will click on it from the front page which gets them more page hits from advertisement.

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not reliable or moralistic journalism. Or edited well, for that matter.

Source: I am an editor on my college's newspaper, the highest rated paper in our state university system.

[kacper00100]

They are not punk! They are a joke.

[One-FISH-]

Sid McCall wrote:

NorCalLos wrote:

Where's the part where they "insist they're still punk?"That's the part where UG does not practice proper journalism, and they write things to get your attention and bring visitors to the site to raise advertising revenue. By giving relatively pointless news articles about controversial bands a slanted title, they get a ton of attention and people will click on it from the front page which gets them more page hits from advertisement.

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not reliable or moralistic journalism. Or edited well, for that matter.

Source: I am an editor on my college's newspaper, the highest rated paper in our state university system.

Moralistic journalism is an oxymoron. Oh yes, and Green Day aren't punk.

Source: My ex is a journalism major, and editor for her paper. She's also a *****.

[shwilly]

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

[Veil of Lies]

Green Day was Punk?

[bokma]

This...

kacper00100 wrote:

They are not punk! They are a joke.

and this

[x]Huffy[x] wrote:

Green Day are not punk.

and this too:

ParasiticTwins wrote:

Can't help but laugh really.

[USCENDONE BENE]

WOuldn't say they were ever really 'punk' as it was originally but they were bought up in the local punk scene and lived by that thinking for a while

[SlipknotRule93]

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.

[DemonInTheFlesh]

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.

[Ishkabibble]

Green Day? Punk? lolwut

[thedarkblues06]

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

Second'd. Very well thought out, and true too.

[ESTP]

Everyone remembers Hitler. No-one should be proud of what he done. Except nazis. Are you a nazi?

[JordanDH]

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.

Everyone will remember Hitler... jut sayin'...

[Year Zero]

Did anyone catch those American Idiot interviews back in the day, these guys literally told teenagers to "grow up" and quit wearing stupid clothing. Hilarious considering they are punk and wear eyeliner. Oh wait they never we're true punks who am I kidding. By the way the latest album is horrid.

[USCENDONE BENE]

ESTP wrote:

Everyone remembers Hitler. No-one should be proud of what he done. Except nazis. Are you a nazi?

yeah really valuable comment to add to this discussion dipshit

[barfrog]

If theyre really punk, an article explaining that they are wouldnt be needed, simple as...

[Nameless742]

Chuckles all-round.
Agreed. Maybe their older stuff has some punkishness.. or is decent.
latest album is an abomination. It's sad how many bands are girling-up or faggotizing their music.
Bullet for my valentine is another.
And I hope to hell A7X don't go even more homo-erotic with this next album.

[ajreciever14]

barfrog wrote:

If theyre really punk, an article explaining that they are wouldnt be needed, simple as...

+1. its like sally field saying she's "still hot"

[Enix165]

They weren't soft in the first place? o_o Jeez, they're The Jonas Sisters in denial.

[TwistedLogic]

Billy JOe Armstrong has become a pretentious douche who thinks his music is important. Sorry dude, the work of people like Organski and Waltz are important; you write power chord laden tracks in which you espouse pseudo political babble about how the system sucks. You suck for pretending to know something besides how to play an A5 or Eminor. Go away now.

[WastedTele]

Burgery wrote:

I lolololol'd when i read the title.

You 'laughed out loud out loud out loud out loud'd'?

[Cornpuff]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.

Did they take your lunch money and laugh at you in grade school?

[DemonInTheFlesh]

JordanDH wrote:

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.
Everyone will remember Hitler... jut sayin'...

LOL. That's funny, but not a fair comparison. Hitler massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Green Day is just a rock band. They've made their mark on the world with their music. That's a farcry from a homicidal, psychotic, slightly retarded megalomaniac.

[Jarf]

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

[DemonInTheFlesh]

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

THANK YOU! Finally- Someone else with half a brain.

[conroy91]

I'm a big green day fan and admittedly this made me pretty excited when i first heard of it.
BUT UG NEWS TEAM. WHAT THE FUCK?
We get it. Green Day has a musical. I don't ****ing care anymore!
Its been the same god damn report everytime and its not helping green day in any way. Cause ignorant *******s continue to cuss out a band that is more sucessful than they ever will be.
Green Day has Earned what they have now.
They have the right to do what they want with their career and music.
And they haven't sold out. Selling out means you're looking for money.
They've evolved, grown boring and wrote a rock opera or two. Who cares.

[Warheart1188]

Green Day is still punk? LMAO. They haven't been punk in a long time (in the since of their musical style).

[False_God]

Who are greenday?????

[flame_mc]

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

THANK YOU! Finally- Someone else with half a brain.

Again if someone missed it: PUNK IT'S A STATE OF MIND, NOT A FASHION. nuff said

[Mainer]

Burgery wrote:

I lolololol'd when i read the title.

same

[JunkieForFame]

Oh come on ... the last time they actually claimed they were 'punk' was when they released "Good Riddance". And the decision to put out that song was one of the most "punk-est" things ever; can't argue with that.

[hackahobo]

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

This.

[Msu_Man04]

Green Day do whatever the hell they want, and that's the basis of being Punk. So don't you all dare say that THEY are not punk, because they're as punk as they ever have been. Their music may have changed from punk/pop-punk to more of a pop-rock/alternative-rock, but in essence they are just as punk as ever.

[hackahobo]

ESTP wrote:

Everyone remembers Hitler. No-one should be proud of what he done. Except nazis. Are you a nazi?

Comparing Green Day to Hitler...what more can we expect from flamers?

[Msu_Man04]

Oh, and 21CB is honestly a really good album. I'd bet LOTS of money that more of you guys would like it if it were a different band and not Green Day who did it.

[rockfreak611]

Punk = nonconformnity

Green Day = conforming to the "latest trend" in music for the past decade.

Green Day are becoming jokes of what they once were. And before you say any shit on how I'm a hater, I love most of their old music.

[rockfreak611]

barfrog wrote:

If theyre really punk, an article explaining that they are wouldnt be needed, simple as...

This

[Luke200420]

I'm pretty sure real punk rockers don't hang out with Donald Trump.

[Oyface]

artistmachine wrote:

I don't think they insisted anywhere that they were punk. regardless, this will arise enough flaming to last UG for the day.

The day? Try the whole week .. We're UG!

[SilverHammer :O]

Yeah green day, say that while holding your grammies.

[afratmdk]

rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

[SumFX]

Doe's it matter if they are punk or not?
Good music is goods music.
I own all their albums and they have some 'crappy' songs and some flippin' good ones.
Stop being childish and didnt we have a similar news story yesterday?

[Msu_Man04]

rockfreak611 wrote:

Punk = nonconformnity

Green Day = conforming to the "latest trend" in music for the past decade.

Green Day are becoming jokes of what they once were. And before you say any shit on how I'm a hater, I love most of their old music.

They just changed how they sound, they wanted to do something new. They got political on Warning, so don't say it's because of that. And pieces of American Idiot are downright borrowed. The "American Idiot" riff could've been right off of Insomniac.

Don't assume that they didn't WANT to change. They just do whatever they want.

[danlally]

I love green day, old and new....but they are not punk, not now.

[fret13]

Cornpuff wrote:

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.

Did they take your lunch money and laugh at you in grade school?

i didn't want to say anything :'(

[geoguitar]

quote]rockfreak611 wrote:

Punk = nonconformnity

Green Day = conforming to the "latest trend" in music for the past decade.

Green Day are becoming jokes of what they once were. And before you say any shit on how I'm a hater, I love most of their old music.[/quote]

Since when is a rock band/ pop-punk/ punk / whatever making a musical, conforming to a trend?

Making musicals the latest trend?

[rockfreak611]

For all the people that say "Punk is doing whatever you feel like doing," then 99% of bands today are considered punk by your logic.

Are AC/DC punk? Fuck no, but they still do whatever the hell they want and dress however the hell they want (Angus still wears his schoolboy uniform).

[NemX162]

Luke200420 wrote:

I'm pretty sure real punk rockers don't hang out with Donald Trump.

Real punk rockers do whatever the hell they want regardless of what jack-offs like the whiny users of UG think. If that includes hanging out with Donald Trump, so be it.

[CoreysMonster]

Sid McCall wrote:
That's the part where UG does not practice proper journalism, and they write things to get your attention and bring visitors to the site to raise advertising revenue. By giving relatively pointless news articles about controversial bands a slanted title, they get a ton of attention and people will click on it from the front page which gets them more page hits from advertisement.

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not reliable or moralistic journalism. Or edited well, for that matter.

Source: I am an editor on my college's newspaper, the highest rated paper in our state university system.

lol UG, you've been found out.

[juan_666]

Dead squirrel is punk...

[Wakisazhi]

Metalology wrote:

If you have to insist, then you're not.

This pretty much.

[Jackolas]

Sid McCall wrote:

NorCalLos wrote:

Where's the part where they "insist they're still punk?"
That's the part where UG does not practice proper journalism, and they write things to get your attention and bring visitors to the site to raise advertising revenue. By giving relatively pointless news articles about controversial bands a slanted title, they get a ton of attention and people will click on it from the front page which gets them more page hits from advertisement.

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not reliable or moralistic journalism. Or edited well, for that matter.

Source: I am an editor on my college's newspaper, the highest rated paper in our state university system.

I agree, and I'd go further and say there is something wrong with it.

[S-Tallica]

Isn't punk all about saying screw you and doing what you like?

[bogeaqyt]

They were never punk to begin with.

[iwillrockyou22]

I DO WHATEVER I WANT....unless my mom says i can't ((( does that make me a PUNK?

[daedley]

What a bunch of poser douche bags who make terrible music. I'm not even going to give them satisfaction of debating that they aren't punk. I'm just gonna say that their music is terrible, so they aren't even musicians. I hate them with a passion and anybody who likes them is either 13 years old or has a terrible taste in music. Green Day blows

[Zyrnis]

Only thing that i can think about this is "lol"

[PAsistem]

bands like green day make it a lot easier to define "sell-out"

[Iann17]

"When a crass corparate vulture feeds on mass consumer culture of spending mummmy's money its not punk rock" In the words of MC Lars. Mainstream is what Green Day are and Mainstream punk is an oxymoron.

[Rocker dude2010]

i think they are punk

[jannick]

couldn't they just "not give a f**k" like the old-school punk-rockers?

[Kozlic]

I laugh at you, jealous people. They'Re like the biggest band right now and that'S why you can'T say that they suck. Millions of people like them and go to their concerts. Face it, you're jealous. They practically invented pop-punk and I'm really happy that they did.

[g_machine69]

green day has been soft for a long time now

[Homestyle_Joe]

afratmdk wrote:

rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

This.

[Elmo Jade Blue]

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.

Both of your comments made me very happy

[Homestyle_Joe]

Also, they never insisted they were punk in this article and they didn't write this article. There goes half the "sell-out" arguments...

[doomsdayscottie]

Punk is the farthest thing from Broadway

punk is sloppy. punk is rebellion.

green day never have and never will be punk

[RockGuitar92]

The shit you all say. No one cares whether you like Green Day or not. Stop bitching about them.

For the record, they were never punk. They are and was always pop-punk even though today they are more pop rock.

[thetimmster]

I actually like the newer stuff BETTER than the old stuff.

[Iann17]

Kozlic wrote:

I laugh at you, jealous people. They'Re like the biggest band right now and that'S why you can'T say that they suck. Millions of people like them and go to their concerts. Face it, you're jealous. They practically invented pop-punk and I'm really happy that they did.

two words "The Descendants"

[Novationband]

Green Day hasn't been punk in over 10 years

[Bottle of Dirt]

"This is not 'Oklahoma' - it's 'American Idiot'," singer Billie Joe Armstrong told Reuters in an interview. "It's live and right in your face, flesh and blood."

So was 'Cats'...

[GREENWARRI0R]

The fact they have to say this is pretty laughable.

[Andy2k64]

Novationband wrote:

Green Day hasn't been punk in over 10 years

agreed

[Zell182]

I'm a Green Day fan but come one, they're not punk anymore. They were never hardcore to begin with but 21st Century Breakdown didn't have a sliver of punk in it.

[Solarstar101]

greenday hasn't been punk in a long time and i dont read anywhere in their where they say they still are punk -.-

[RockinRyan13]

I don't think that Green Day cares what the media or anybody thinks.

[mot7]

if they had any shred of punk left in them it's gone now...

[SFosterS]

afratmdk wrote:

rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

TUK EER JAAHHBS!!!

[stonegate drive]

i think when there music got more mature then it was not as good and it doesnt say anything about them being punk ANYWHERE

[metal4life34]

so according to most people here being successful with the majority of the public is bad? Every band sells out, that's how you get money, the trick is not to turn terrible once you get all of it.

also WTF UG, this is like the 323292 news topic title that you've lied to us about.

[fede01_8]

Their musical got horrible reviews:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/criti cs-disappointed-by-dull-green-day-musical_1139745

[alm0st a skat3r]

green day hasn't been punk in a long time...

[guitarsftw]

Punk itself is very contradictory, being purely "punk" is impossible. Stop arguing about what "punk" is. If they want to call themselves punk, fine, it doesn't matter, stop acting like it affects you in any way.

[Ledforthehead]

Green Day knows they are no longer punk. They said it once.

[PCbassist]

Burgery wrote:

I lolololol'd when i read the title.

I trolololo'd when I read the title

[demravager]

IF YOU NEED TO CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU'RE PUNK, YOU'RE NOT PUNK! NOR WOULD A TRUE PUNK NEED TO HAVE A LABEL TO DEFINE THEMSELVES!

[TMF128]

Sell outs.

[NiCk_FuRy]

[x]Huffy[x] wrote:

Green Day are not punk.

yep, but better yet.. they we´re never punk.

[TheAgent]

metal4life34 wrote:

so according to most people here being successful with the majority of the public is bad? Every band sells out, that's how you get money, the trick is not to turn terrible once you get all of it.

also WTF UG, this is like the 323292 news topic title that you've lied to us about.

THANK you. It seems like most people these days think something along the lines of "once you go platinum, you SUCK BALLS". And they're forgetting that all musicians change.

[millarso]

SFosterS wrote:

afratmdk wrote:

rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

TUK EER JAAHHBS!!!

DEY DURK A DER!!! Hehe good stuff.
But seriously just because people remember them doesn't give them the right to be proud. They might have other things to be proud of, but being remembered alone doesn't give them that right. It really depends WHAT they are remembered for... thats what the Hitler comparison people are trying to convey.

[NorCalLos]

I remember a few years ago, GD were going around saying "We never claimed to be punk. People just assumed we were because we played Gilman." SO, which is it? Are you trying to be punk or not?

[carcass_prowler]

pretentious bunch of twats

[kirkom45]

Luke200420 wrote:

I'm pretty sure real punk rockers don't hang out with Donald Trump.

yea, just like their not in butter adds. oh wait... (jonny Rotten)

[cainmd]

i thought punk died like 2 decades ago. sweet mascara posers

[FearOfTheDuck]

They're about as Punk as Lady Gaga is Melodic Death Metal.

[RockerWorld95]

I[ lov ehowall of you say they arent punk yet probally none of you arer punk. Billie joes said in an interview once that people dont know wht punk is and leave punk to the actual punks(something like that). First of all there are so many different punk communities, its not just a genre of music to the punks , its a way of living and green day definantly has that lifestyle, Billie joe actually never really thought of them as being just a punk band, he said that in an interview during the dookie era

[supercool27]

listen to their songs like holiday or american idiot. their music is about ****ing everyone and doing what you think is right and rebelling. that idea is at the heart of punk. this broadway show shows even better that they don't care what you ppl say that hate them they are gonna do what they want to do. and maybe they hope to reach teens who have problems and help them. if theyre supposed to be role models isn't that their job. and all u ppl saying that they shouldn't have to write an article about how they are punk, they didn't write this article! they don't give a **** about what you people say that hate them they have enough fans left to make a living. Green Day may not be my favorite band but they have my respect for doing what they love nomatter what ppl have to say about them

[10basshero10]

I just don't understand what people who hate on bands are trying to accomplish...

[bass-boy-garith]

They never were, and never will be punk. They are a walking monstrosity and one day we will look back at them with nothing more than a grimace.

[Jackolas]

kirkom45 wrote:

Luke200420 wrote:

I'm pretty sure real punk rockers don't hang out with Donald Trump.

yea, just like their not in butter adds. oh wait... (jonny Rotten)

The difference here is John Lydon produced genuinely fantastic (and often difficult) music with Public Image.

[Electric Pluto]

Paul Rudd is cool thus him seeing this show makes it cool by association.
i mean, i grew up on the early green day stuff and initially hated american idiot for many of the same reasons as the rest of the masses but after a few listens and my own maturation, i came to like it. the broadway show doesn't really appeal to me but at least the band is being entirely open-minded with their music. so where's the problem?

[masterchief44]

redhotsexmagic wrote:

they deserve whatever success they get and deserve to be proud of it. people will say whatever punk band becomes successful is no longer punk so screw them.

10basshero10 wrote:

I just don't understand what people who hate on bands are trying to accomplish...

Agreed with both of you.

And my God.
"Admittedly, having a Broadway show might be the least punk rock thing in the universe, but...."
Really??
To me, "punk" means being yourself, an individual. Not conforming to anyone else's ways or norms. Doing stuff other people don't. Expressing yourself in whatever way you want.
Making this Broadway show seems awfully damn punk to me.

[masterchief44]

FearOfTheDuck wrote:

They're about as Punk as Lady Gaga is Melodic Death Metal.

....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCoxh rRcJ0I

[topher2552]

Greenday= punk? no. Greenday + Broadway=punk?.... no.
The title made me Lol it's so ironic.
I hate Greenday sooo much.

[CHOCOmoney]

The thing is, they don't care if a little 15 year old on the internet says they're not punk. They're making money with their music, and I'm sure most of you aren't. I saw the musical, and it definitely had a punk feel to it, one the best musicals I've seen. If you don't like them fine, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

[masterchief44]

CHOCOmoney wrote:

The thing is, they don't care if a little 15 year old on the internet says they're not punk. They're making money with their music, and I'm sure most of you aren't. I saw the musical, and it definitely had a punk feel to it, one the best musicals I've seen. If you don't like them fine, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Was the clever "86" reference pure coincidence, or intentional??

[raptorz44]

I don't necessarily have much of a stance on the wohle, "are green day punk?" issue, so much as, "they aren't punk anymore." If they admit that they aren't punk/say they aren't, then that's awesome and great for them.

The main "Is Green Day punk?" issue I have is the way their mainstream fanbase views them. I can almost guarentee that if you ask the majority of 13 year olds for an example of a punk band, they will say Green Day. They will also think the way Green Day dress is punk. Suddenly black shirts, red ties, and broken hearts=hxc punx

[gabocrbll]

they were awesome back in time

[KileManA7X]

OMFG DONALD TRUMP was there!!!!! That's as punk as it gets, right?

This is the biggest fail of all time I can't believe I read this! Green Day were never punk, they got big after the death of Nirvana when the record companies were looking for the next "rebelious act that could still sell millions of records".

But really, they are as punk as Avril Lavigne. If you want to hear real punk, listen to Bad Brains or the early Misfits. Green Day are just mainstream pop clowns. And Broadway is ****ing horrible but I'll save that for another rant.

[CHOCOmoney]

masterchief44 wrote:

CHOCOmoney wrote:

The thing is, they don't care if a little 15 year old on the internet says they're not punk. They're making money with their music, and I'm sure most of you aren't. I saw the musical, and it definitely had a punk feel to it, one the best musicals I've seen. If you don't like them fine, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Was the clever "86" reference pure coincidence, or intentional??

Intentional of course

[coldr]

To be honest alot of the people we think of as punk are just better liars. They all live in mansions just like all the "hardcore rappers" and all the "hardcore Rockers" and all the "hardcore blues" and all the crap crap crap...honestly people its the "entertainment" industry. They entertain for money...not for some kind of super punk power of awesomness that noone should ever become a traitor too. honestly some of you have got your head in the clouds. Yay Punk! Yay this yay that *hundreds of people dying of starvation*

Ask yourself what should we be doing with our lives???

Rant over sorry dudes i feel like a doosh you probably a good bunch a guys XD

Have I got bipolar?

[EugeneDebs]

I think it's mildly amusing that a band sings about girls and boredom for the better part of a decade and when they take a slightly political/social tone they get called for being not punk enough.

In any case, I don't think I'd be able to dig this. I love Green Day. I love musicals, but I hate things being bastardized.

[ColdHeartedHero]

NorCalLos wrote:

Where's the part where they "insist they're still punk?"

lol I know right.
Huh

[slight☼return]

Sad seeing them so delusional and clueless. They haven't been a force in punk music since the early 90's and disappeared as a credible band altogether in the late 90's. American Idiot was a cliched, laughable bandwagon anti-bush jump that was nothing more than a talentless stab at selling records to braindead masses.

Foxboro Hot Tubs would have been cool if they hadn't revealed it was them- it was obvious, but still- attaching it to the lame Green Day label was just sad.

RIP Green Day 1989-1995

[Johny Burninate]

Because nothing says against the system like a Broadway play...

[Msu_Man04]

EVERYONE:

Who GIVES a fuck if they're punk or not, or whether they ever were, anyway? They make music. That's it. Just love it or leave it.

slight☼return wrote:

Sad seeing them so delusional and clueless. They haven't been a force in punk music since the early 90's and disappeared as a credible band altogether in the late 90's. American Idiot was a cliched, laughable bandwagon anti-bush jump that was nothing more than a talentless stab at selling records to braindead masses.

Foxboro Hot Tubs would have been cool if they hadn't revealed it was them- it was obvious, but still- attaching it to the lame Green Day label was just sad.

RIP Green Day 1989-1995

Yes, American Idiot is talentless, that's why millions of people love it, including myself, who likes tons of artists: anyone from Sabbath to Judas Priest, Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters, Metallica, Jason Mraz, Zeppelin...

With all those bands that I love that were loaded with talent, I would definitely have one of my favorite albums be a "talentless stab at selling records to braindead masses."

As for your Foxboro Hot Tubs comment, the music didn't change just because we know who they are. Pull your head out of your ass. It's still the same good, rockin' music.

[GuitarSymphony]

What the hell ever.
Who cares.
Punk or not they're not good anymore.

[MEGAJOSH!]

To all you smelly morons saying "PUNK IS DOING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO LOL!!!1", you are very wrong. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and didn't care what anyone else thought. Were they punks?? Point proven, you sad bunch of tits.

[captainperoxide]

Big laffs at all the people who are falling for the headline and getting all self-righteous about whether Green Day are punk or not. Who ****in' cares, dude?

[metalligeek093]

I think they shoud do whatever they want. Thats pretty punk right there. Not really giving a **** what everybody thinks and doing what you want. I know Im gonna get flak for this but, thats how I feel about it.

[stueey]

Tell you whats not punk. Flaming on UG. You all joined the "I hate Green Day band wagon" just like you joined the "I hate MCR band wagon". You all bone bands like Metallica Zep and Kiss and you are complaining that Green Day arn't punk?

Stfu.

Get off the internet, Start a band, and you make a living from it.

Lazy flaming ***** *****.

[Black Orchid]

ParasiticTwins wrote:

Can't help but laugh really.

I had the same reaction. It's like Captain Hook crossdressing as Tinkerbell while still claiming to be a pirate.
I wish they'd stop classing their present selves as punk. Their rebellious years are long gone.

[eastwoodfan92]

Who should give a damn? I'm a loyal fan of theirs - bought the last album the day it was released in stores - and it's just good music. There is no such thing as "pure" punk and there really never was.
Besides, if they would have just kept releasing the same album over and over for the sake of staying "punk" they would have turned into NOFX - burnouts. So they're human and they get bored. So they don't care what a bunch of loser teenagers say on a ****ing guitar website. They're selling records, living comfortably, providing for their families, helping others, and for God's sake, they're HAVING FUN. That's something many of you *******s should consider trying - having some fun.

[WhoAreYou22]

Punk is a freedom to do whatever you CAN do...that's the whole idea, to be NOT told how to act. Green Day are living it up, whether you like it or not. It's not very "punk" to be telling other people how to live.

[shinnoto]

Punk doesn't sell out Green Day you were awesome! now you are a joke of what you were... you really should change your name to Foxboro Hot Tubs... MY GOD even Foxboro Hot Tubs is better than Green Day now :/

[ripdime04]

green day aint even ****ing close to punk

[BabsCaulfield]

Green Day *were* punk, and then people started to like them. So because they were popular (pop) they could no longer call themselves punk, but it's how they started out and part of who they are.

[ellimem]

Everyone in here saying they aren't punk is retarded. I'm not a fan of their new stuff but they are definitely punk. Punk is undefinable, they live outside the norm. They started playing a genre that hasn't been subject of influence in 30 years (opera rock) and they infused many of their punk riffs with it.

They did things their way and didn't give a **** what anyone thought. I sure as hell didn't think they were going to be as big as they are by playing what they are playing.

Changing your style isn't selling out people. If that were true then Robert Plant, John Lennon and Eric Clapton are some of the biggest sellouts of all time.

[TwoDaysTwoNight]

I couldn't help but laugh when I read the title

[BabsCaulfield]

And what the **** is up with comparing green day to some world war two atrocities. They're a band, get your heads out of your arses.

[madefortvmovie]

Metalology wrote:

If you have to insist, then you're not.

Yes, but the Sex Pistols insisted they were punk, and really they were in essence a boy band, put together by Malcolm McLaren to capitalize on an idea and trend. And yet the Sex Pistols were sure as hell punk.

[Captain2113]

See: http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/facepalm_statue.j pg for comment gesture. Complete FAIL on Green Day's part for thinking that political "punk" rock would be a hit with anyone older than 12 that isn't a complete tool. Way to go, guys. You have truly proven that you are "punk" rock. Hahaha

[Anarchy_Ant]

Keep it up guys, Green Day are sure to read your childish comments and cry

Anyway, Green Day didn't mention that they were "still punk", way to add fuel to the obvious troll fire, UG Title Creator!

[BlackRebelMC85]

Green Day are a bunch of pussies. They should listen to an amazing band like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and take a few notes on how to rock out.

[artistmachine]

BabsCaulfield wrote:

Green Day *were* punk, and then people started to like them. So because they were popular (pop) they could no longer call themselves punk, but it's how they started out and part of who they are.

you're right. if a band has fans, they CAN'T be punk. lol.

[espChris93]

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.

everyone remembers hitler stalin and the manson family... how proud should we be of them? and the only three emotions that people could have towards anything is liking it disliking it or not giving a sh*t

[Msu_Man04]

BlackRebelMC85 wrote:

Green Day are a bunch of pussies. They should listen to an amazing band like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and take a few notes on how to rock out.

Because "rocking out" is the only thing that matters.

I said it to someone else, I'll say it to you to: pull your head out of your ass. You can have your opinion, yes, but because you only like music that "rocks out," as I assume from your ignorant statement, doesn't make them pussies. They can rock out a HELL of a lot.

[espChris93]

Johny Burninate wrote:

Because nothing says against the system like a Broadway play...

hahah/ THIS

[badreligion17]

really UG, really. posting articles just to break out flame wars much, this isn't even newsworthy

[cool#9]

Doing a Broadway musical is one of the most punk things they could have done. Punk is about doing what you want. It was the same way with Time of Your Life. Sure it was different, but it's what they wanted to do with no regard to anyone else. Punk at its finest.

[psychoskin473]

if you have to say you're punk your not.

[Argon688]

Green Day was punk until american idiot, however i will admit i enjoyed american idiot quite alot. I just cannot believe how big they are just for their pop songs like 21 guns (overplayed as hell) and i liked some of the new songs like know your enemy and christians inferno. but i think green day should go back to keeping it to simple power chord songs like basket case and geek stink breath.

[DemonInTheFlesh]

espChris93 wrote:

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

I wonder if they're going to release a taped performance of this on DVD. I don't see me making a trip to NYC any time soon, but I'd really like to see it.

shwilly wrote:

Nowhere in this article do these guys claim to be "totally punk" or anything

One of the (few) things I still like about Green Day is that they're not too apologetic about the decisions they've made throughout their career. I hate their last couple of albums, but if they wanna wear makeup and be the poppiest f*cking band in the world: good for them. I don't have to listen to them and they don't owe me anything (and that goes for the "punk community" as well, if there is such a thing...)

It WOULD be kinda sad if, in spite of their mainstream appeal and commercial sound, they still considered themselves to be the quintessential punk band of their times or something, but that's not what they say in these 3 quotes...

So once again, people of UG > please stop making up these ridiculous titles. It stopped being funny a long time ago, you guys are better than this...

I totally agree with you on one thing: I have all kinds of respect for Green Day for just kind of saying "F*ck what everyone says about us, we're doing what WE want to do." Think about it this way, too: The world seems to be completely divided into three categories with the Green Day thing- Love 'em, hate 'em, or don't really give a sh*t about the whole thing. But it doesn't matter who loves them or hates them, EVERYONE will remember them, and THAT'S something of which to be proud.

everyone remembers hitler stalin and the manson family... how proud should we be of them? and the only three emotions that people could have towards anything is liking it disliking it or not giving a sh*t

Wow. You're SO intelligent and you contributed SO much to that discussion. Apparently you didn't read when I said Green Day is just a rock band. They've made a mark on the world with their music which is a farcry from being a psychopath or a megalomaniac. I know it must be hard with an IQ as low as yours, but do try and keep up.

[Argon688]

artistmachine wrote:

BabsCaulfield wrote:

Green Day *were* punk, and then people started to like them. So because they were popular (pop) they could no longer call themselves punk, but it's how they started out and part of who they are.

you're right. if a band has fans, they CAN'T be punk. lol.

the ramones had fans. the misfits had fans. green day CHANGED to suit a larger audience. like they used to target teenage guys but with this pop crap they are now also trying to get 7th grade girls. its like they morphed into NSYNC+Guitars.

[drummz11]

They're being punk by not being punk!

[shelovemyguitar]

I can stand punk. I can't stand these guys. They are not punk.

[4evermetal]

if Green Day is punk, what is GG Allin?

[pbogner87]

WHO CARES??

[banrnon]

how is this news.....?!?!?

[kaos572]

just because a band sticks to what they want to do doesnt mean there punk. thats like saying metallica were punk after they released load and reload. or countless other bands that changed their sound because they wanted to try something different. Green Day are not punk. they were. now theyre not and theyre just a commercial pop rock band(more pop than rock) now shut up.

[danrawkz]

Err, where did Green Day say they were punk? I don't see it in the article..

[We'realltoBlame]

lol Article title implying that Green Day has been punk in this century.

[ThermalPepper]

i dont mind green day at all. i used to like their previous albums better, though even 21CB is quite good. Though i have a problem with a definition of punk.

This world has like 6 billion people in it, and everyone's unique in their own way. does that make everyone a punk? lol

[Msu_Man04]

Argon688 wrote:

artistmachine wrote:

BabsCaulfield wrote:

Green Day *were* punk, and then people started to like them. So because they were popular (pop) they could no longer call themselves punk, but it's how they started out and part of who they are.

you're right. if a band has fans, they CAN'T be punk. lol.

the ramones had fans. the misfits had fans. green day CHANGED to suit a larger audience. like they used to target teenage guys but with this pop crap they are now also trying to get 7th grade girls. its like they morphed into NSYNC+Guitars.

Who said they changed "to suit a larger audience?" I never remember Billie Joe saying that.

[Quik Axe Player]

Why does everyone just look at the band's image? American Idiot was a great album. Musically and lyrically is one of their best. People say they've gone pop, heck then they were pop back when Dookie came out. Pop means popular, but the now it seems like its own genre. Any band that has a good amount of success is pop.

[guitarman28]

kacper00100 wrote:

They are not punk! They are a joke.

for all you people saying stuff like this, especially the joke part, you can call them a joke when you 1. get a record deal, 2. release a Grammy winning album, and 3. become as famous as them.

That is all

[blindfatkid23]

The title by itself is a complete oxymoron.

[guitarman28]

eastwoodfan92 wrote:

Who should give a damn? I'm a loyal fan of theirs - bought the last album the day it was released in stores - and it's just good music. There is no such thing as "pure" punk and there really never was.
Besides, if they would have just kept releasing the same album over and over for the sake of staying "punk" they would have turned into NOFX - burnouts. So they're human and they get bored. So they don't care what a bunch of loser teenagers say on a ****ing guitar website. They're selling records, living comfortably, providing for their families, helping others, and for God's sake, they're HAVING FUN. That's something many of you *****s should consider trying - having some fun.

thank you!

[Blind Messiah]

guitarman28 wrote:

kacper00100 wrote:

They are not punk! They are a joke.

for all you people saying stuff like this, especially the joke part, you can call them a joke when you 1. get a record deal, 2. release a Grammy winning album, and 3. become as famous as them.

That is all

Seriously? You know NOTHING about punk rock. The Misfits never had the big record deal (in their best era), Black Flag never got a Grammy, and the Ramones are way more important but not as famous I would say.

"That is all"

[Dawgs4Vick]

afratmdk wrote:

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best comment ever

[emphaticleech]

In all technicalities ... isn't punk anti-whatpeoplethinkandwant? So wouldn't a broadway musical of an album be EXTREMELY punk BECAUSE it's not what the fans/masses would want or like?

And I never thought Green Day were punk anyway. Just good ol' fashioned Pop-punk.

[Metallica_Fan_]

yes metallica rulez!! and this isnt green day anymore

[Blue_Strat_06]

i like Green Day

[Metallica_Fan_]

wht? tht makes no sense they "were" punk

RockGuitar92 wrote:

The shit you all say. No one cares whether you like Green Day or not. Stop bitching about them.

For the record, they were never punk. They are and was always pop-punk even though today they are more pop rock.

[Metallica_Fan_]

i guess ur saying metallica is pop? u make no sense dude

Quik Axe Player wrote:

Why does everyone just look at the band's image? American Idiot was a great album. Musically and lyrically is one of their best. People say they've gone pop, heck then they were pop back when Dookie came out. Pop means popular, but the now it seems like its own genre. Any band that has a good amount of success is pop.

[Msu_Man04]

Blind Messiah wrote:

guitarman28 wrote:

kacper00100 wrote:

They are not punk! They are a joke.

for all you people saying stuff like this, especially the joke part, you can call them a joke when you 1. get a record deal, 2. release a Grammy winning album, and 3. become as famous as them.

That is all

Seriously? You know NOTHING about punk rock. The Misfits never had the big record deal (in their best era), Black Flag never got a Grammy, and the Ramones are way more important but not as famous I would say.

"That is all"

He never said anything about people saying they weren't punk. He was talking about people saying they're jokes.

Lrn2reed.

[Msu_Man04]

Metallica_Fan_ wrote:

i guess ur saying metallica is pop? u make no sense dudeQuik Axe Player wrote:

Why does everyone just look at the band's image? American Idiot was a great album. Musically and lyrically is one of their best. People say they've gone pop, heck then they were pop back when Dookie came out. Pop means popular, but the now it seems like its own genre. Any band that has a good amount of success is pop.

Well yes, Metallica IS a pretty poppy metal band. Compared to other metal bands, Metallica and to a lesser extent Megadeth are about as poppy as metal can get.

Pop just means it's... accessible. It's easy for MOST people to listen to and get if they really try.

So early Metallica wasn't very poppy, but around ...And Justice for All or Master of Puppets they started getting poppier. Even Ride the Lightning, on songs like "For Whom the Bell Tolls."

[iwhackoffalot]

I like Green Day's music. Each album. And frankly, unless you've heard them say they changed for the reason of reaching more people, how can you just type that and call it the truth?

I recall no interview where Billie Joe states, "Yeah, we already sold millions of albums, but we wanted to reach 7th graders. How did we do that? By writing a rock opera."

Seems like it was just a byproduct of how CATCHY the new tunes were, and there's nothing wrong with that. And those who say they jumped on the "Anti-Bush Bandwagon", that's like saying you all jumped on the "eating and breathing bandwagon". It's pretty hard NOT to hate Bush, he was a ****ass.

[GuitaristMatt]

We want to change what Green Day is doing... It's not working. They found a way around the (c)rap that everyone was getting into though which is really something... they stood up and fought is that not punk? Anyways, they will come back like the old goes around comes around thing that we have seen with music lately, remember the Beatles?... green day not punk but moving along making the majority happy... very contradicive though (Minority)... They have there money and they are just making music IDK

[guitoorbenchi]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.

You act like you wouldn't do the same thing.

[BwareDWare94]

I care so little I almost passed out.

[GuitaristMatt]

melvin is weird

[Scourge441]

IMO the people saying "lol punk is about doing what you want" are really missing the point. It's not just what you do, but what your motivations are. And at this point, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Green Day's motivation is money.

Checked.

[super collasal]

Punks been dead for over 20 years the only true punk bands around today are the few that survived the 80s and are still thriving today

[Msu_Man04]

Scourge331 wrote:

IMO the people saying "lol punk is about doing what you want" are really missing the point. It's not just what you do, but what your motivations are. And at this point, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Green Day's motivation is money.

Checked.

Well, we don't know for sure. Until we can ask Billie Joe himself...

[Scourge441]

Msu_Man04 wrote:

Scourge331 wrote:

IMO the people saying "lol punk is about doing what you want" are really missing the point. It's not just what you do, but what your motivations are. And at this point, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Green Day's motivation is money.

Checked.

Well, we don't know for sure. Until we can ask Billie Joe himself...

Even if we did ask him, could we trust his answer?

[kgesme21]

pbogner87 wrote:

WHO CARES??

I don't care if you don't care.

[Msu_Man04]

Scourge441 wrote:

Msu_Man04 wrote:

Scourge331 wrote:

IMO the people saying "lol punk is about doing what you want" are really missing the point. It's not just what you do, but what your motivations are. And at this point, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Green Day's motivation is money.

Checked.

Well, we don't know for sure. Until we can ask Billie Joe himself...

Even if we did ask him, could we trust his answer?

I think so. I have a feeling he's honest enough that if he did it for money, he'd admit it. I don't see him as a liar, but I suppose that's subjective.

[Chevelle454]

i hope these guys never make music again. i cant believe someone was lame enough to make that CRAP into a musical

[strat0blaster]

Who cares if they're categorized as punk or not? Whatever happened to being a bang that wrote songs people listened to?

[IbanezMayhem674]

I bet money UG staff puts this kinda crap up for the S**t's and giggles just to watch everyone riot over a crappy band like Green Day.

[leonkennedy74]

I heard the musical was abominable anyway. Friend saw it in NYC over spring break.

[TheMysticBard]

Ishkabibble wrote:

Green Day? Punk? lolwut

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[10pound]

One has to wonder, what would Johnny Rotten do, I mean other than shoot up and puke on an audience member laughing of course, had he not died?

Deep thoughts by 10Pound[/quote]

[njones02]

If they weren't legendary no one would get so fired up about an opinion one way or another on this subject. Respect them, because they exhibit the best qualities a band can have.

[Fraydawg]

False_God wrote:

Who are greenday?????

Hi five, you are the man.

[Chronologo]

njones02 wrote:

If they weren't legendary no one would get so fired up about an opinion one way or another on this subject. Respect them, because they exhibit the best qualities a band can have.

are you serious?? like being a bunch of sell outs, I remember those old albums they had were awesome but then the rest of the story is known

[disturbedcalgar]

I laughed like hell when i saw this title. I don't like greenday at all but this title caught my eye and I couldn't stop the laughter. greenday being punk, good joke.

[Melkord]

supercool27 wrote:

listen to their songs like holiday or american idiot.

But those songs are terrible...

[Melkord]

njones02 wrote:

If they weren't legendary no one would get so fired up about an opinion one way or another on this subject. Respect them, because they exhibit the best qualities a band can have.

What like being mostly mediocre musicians who think they 'make statements' with their music

[Horsedick.MPEG]

Green Day is more punk than they were before. I don't see the "punk" in writing songs about smoking weed and masturbation. You guys are calling them sell-outs, it's kind of impossible to already be a popular mainstream band and "sell-out". If they ever sold out was when Dookie came out, and that wasn't much different than Kerplunk. Face it, they matured. I don't want to listen to an album put out by 40 year olds, who are still writing about masturbating and weed. Most of you whiners try comparing American Idiot to Dookie. Hell those albums are 10 years apart. Of course there's going to be a difference in sound. If a band keeps rehashing the same material over and over, not only does it get boring, it shows they lack talent.

[TheBrownPenguin]

SilverHammer :O wrote:

Yeah green day, say that while holding your grammies.

Seriously man, that sums it right up. People can say what they want but they are the poster band for selling out. Anyone else think that punk and broadway should go together? Yeah I didnt think so

[Tster]

they didn't actually insist they were punk but they defo not punk.

[Twofly]

I agree that punk and broadway dont go hand in hand but regardless i still luv green day coz they make really good music in my opinion

[jetfuel495]

They didn't once say they were punk...

Sometimes I think UG gives news articles controversial titles on purpose just so they can weed out the kids who are banworthy.

[machinehead77]

"This is not 'Oklahoma' - it's 'American Idiot'," singer Billie Joe Armstrong told Reuters in an interview. "It's live and right in your face, flesh and blood."
The only thing in my face would be the barrell or a gun after seeing it

[machinehead77]

*of

[MyUserName777]

The punk thing to do would be to say f*** all you haters. Instead, they proved they were even less punk by saying they're still punk

[Private Eye]

JunkieForFame wrote:

Oh come on ... the last time they actually claimed they were 'punk' was when they released "Good Riddance". And the decision to put out that song was one of the most "punk-est" things ever; can't argue with that.

+1

[duzit89]

this is grean days worst decade.. and they think its the best work they put out "Ever"... i am a fan of 90's kerplunk.. till 2000 with warning.. but anytime after that its been a load of shit to me.. and the "punk label"? i always thought it was pop rock more then punk.. and it never bothered me for someone to say they are not punk.. i just thought they spawned all the rest of todays crappier bands that are considered punk/emo playing simple powerchords to this day.. and for this bands.. BIGGEST HIGH?... Dookie. and the guys in green day should know this.. rather then trying to kid themselves thinking this is the best thing to happen to them of the 21 years they been around

[RichRman]

I think the funniest thing about the sell out label is the majority of people who actually use could probably not give a shit about DIY.

Cos if you're not DIY you're a sell out. It's only when a band with a general punk sound comes along anybody with a internet connection throws out the sellout tag even if they have no connections to anything DIY.

Furthermore the rest of the bands they listen to can do whatever they want commercially cos they're metal or classic rock. Metallica seem to be an obvious exception to this rule which results in them getting all sorts of abuse.

[Cream-fan-#1]

Green Day never sold out their sound changed! To sell out would be to do what AC/DC have done and put out the same album 400000 times! Also who cares what anyone here thinks? I'm sure Green Day with their millions of dollars don't

[LPGNRKC]

Oh my God! you guys have this ridiculous concept that Green Day aren't punk because the don't fit in with this stereotype that you all have in your heads. And yet you claim that punk is about non-conformity. Can't you see how ridiculously contradictory this is? Besides, they may not be the Sex Pistols, but they're hardly All Time Low either.

Anyway, I say good on them for making a Broadway show. I know I'd be stoked to have an album made into a world wide performance.

[-Vogel-]

PUnk is a huge oxymoron in itself, go figure.

[baspvn]

they already turned soft? lmao..

theyre still great tho

[Astyan]

I literally burst out laughing reading the news title.

[djpiggy]

[x]Huffy[x] wrote:

Green Day are not punk.

Couldn't agree more mate

[ippystratman]

i love the way no one knows shit about punk. theres punk look and punk music. green day had punk look (once upon a time) but were never really punk music. there songs were too complex to be proper punk. People need to lern musical characterstics of genres before cmmentig on them. i do like green day though, they were one of the first bands i got into

[Jackolas]

duzit89 wrote:

this is grean days worst decade.. and they think its the best work they put out "Ever"... i am a fan of 90's kerplunk.. till 2000 with warning.. but anytime after that its been a load of shit to me.. and the "punk label"? i always thought it was pop rock more then punk.. and it never bothered me for someone to say they are not punk.. i just thought they spawned all the rest of todays crappier bands that are considered punk/emo playing simple powerchords to this day.. and for this bands.. BIGGEST HIGH?... Dookie. and the guys in green day should know this.. rather then trying to kid themselves thinking this is the best thing to happen to them of the 21 years they been around

Great points.

[h1soka]

flame_mc wrote:

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

THANK YOU! Finally- Someone else with half a brain.

Again if someone missed it: PUNK IT'S A STATE OF MIND, NOT A FASHION. nuff said

The Backstreet Boys must be the punkest band in the world

[Amito]

lol

[janetthegreat]

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion

bush is punk

[rhn94]

guitoorbenchi

couldn't agree more mate !
why the hate anybody?

[rhn94]

guitoorbenchi wrote:

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.
_____

You act like you wouldn't do the same thing.

couldn't agree more mate !

why the hate? anybody ?

[azimuthtrilling]

Nothing to do with success, this band never was is or will be "Hard" or "Punk".. They did once have a couple of good songs though.

[vengeance_6661]

this is the damn saddest thing ive ever seen. if anything all they are doing is trying to get queer ass attention cause their record label doest have enough money. and trapping people into hearing the garbage on their new cd. i mean im all for success and if your given the opportunity go for it, but dont be a hypocrite and try to be a punk band when really you sold out your core.

[queenslander47]

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

winner. It really bugs me when ppl get on their high horse and act as given the oppurtunity, they wouldn't change the way they play even a little bit (green day haven't changed all that much) to be multi-millionaires and international stars. its ridiculous and hypocritical.

MyUserName777 wrote:

The punk thing to do would be to say f*** all you haters. Instead, they proved they were even less punk by saying they're still punk

i love dickheads who clearly haven't read the article, yet comment anyway. Their stupidity always gives me a good laugh.

[DiveRightIn63]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

I HATE THIS BAND SO MUCH. Fucking traitors and sell-outs is what they are.

.....hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

TRAITORS TO THE THRONE, PAY WITH BLOOD FOR YOUR TREACHERY!

[DiveRightIn63]

janetthegreat wrote:

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion

bush is punk

Thank you SLC Punk

[stndrdprcdre]

Whether or not Green Day is still a "punk" band isn't even worth arguing about. They're no more punk than Justin Bieber. They're just another mediocre, forgettable band that once had some pretty good tunes.

[gabrielr]

DemonInTheFlesh wrote:

Jarf wrote:

I'd say they're still punk since they're doing what they want to do instead of conforming to what you fashion punks say is right.

Punk is about doing what you want to do regardless. It's a state of mind, not a fashion.

THANK YOU! Finally- Someone else with half a brain.

I, a person with a full brain, am glad you found someone you can relate too, who shares your mental problems. The rest of us think your pretty dumb.

[rockxaintxdead]

hahaha omg thank you ultimate gutiar for making my day with this rediciously hillarious aricle. haha yeah green gay is so punk you know cos you know broadway is so punk (sarcasm) lol

[vans1170]

HAY GUIZE GRUN DAI AINT PUNK I LIKE CHEESE OMG PROBABLY BETTER BAND IF EARLY 90s

[SK8nBASS]

let them do what they want to damn it. i don't like em that much, but I respect them for having the balls to go out and show that they have other interests. you don't have to be labeled one style... f**k...

[Vai_Rulez]

ESTP wrote:

Everyone remembers Hitler. No-one should be proud of what he done. Except nazis. Are you a nazi?

Its kind of hard to NOT remember a man who tried taking over the world and persecuted and murdered millions of people. He also wanted to be remembered but for a totally different and in this case a totally irrelevant reason. BUT Green Day: Do what you want, thats what music is about. I dont personally like them that much but there is worse music in the world trust me haha.

[jeffbecklad]

I laughed so hard at the title...

[di4gram]

I don't think Green Day really cares what any of you think, considering they came from living in a warehouse with a bunch of punks and junkies and now are multimillionaires. They became rich by being failures, and that's pretty punk if you ask me, regardless of what kind of music they put out now.

[lespaul1123]

They never said they were punk...you're all a bunch of haters, but it doesn't matter, Green Day does what they want to do and it's working for them.

[facemelt365]

I think it's a grate thing for Greenday. A musical, like music, is just another art form. And just like DemonInTheFlesh said, they don't give a **** if people think it's 'gay' or 'not punk'. They're doing what they want with out conforming to bouderies, and i respect that.

[KilleRage666]

If you call it punk rock so I can say that miley cirus is punk rock XDDDD
Someday peapole will say that greenday is black metal XD
They not punk, they pop.
They have bad music, bad sound, and very bad looking.
(If I say currectly: Emo Girls).
I think this band can be exist in the youtube chanel of justin bieber.
Have a nice day!

[Malpha66]

lol at all the people making wwii comparisons like they are even remotely relevant

[Msu_Man04]

KilleRage666 wrote:

If you call it punk rock so I can say that miley cirus is punk rock XDDDD
Someday peapole will say that greenday is black metal XD
They not punk, they pop.
They have bad music, bad sound, and very bad looking.
(If I say currectly: Emo Girls).
I think this band can be exist in the youtube chanel of justin bieber.
Have a nice day!

You people who compare them to Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus are ridiculous trolls.

[rockfreak611]

Johny Burninate wrote:

Because nothing says against the system like a Broadway play...

+1

[rockxaintxdead]

a few major problems...Green Gay isnt punk and they never really were. They are TOTAL sellouts and being on braodway is SO not punk. Green Gay is so hypocritical too...they have their sh*tty songs like "american" idiot and the last of the american girls but isnt it ironic that they are singing about themselves? hell green day aint even american!

[Argon688]

how did we get from "F*** off and die" to "Last of the american girls?"

[musicrokzmyworl]

I'd have to say the funny thing is I'm on both sides of this fight. I love Green Day. I've loved them for years and years and they're still my favorite band of all time.
To me I would say they still have the punk essence to them, but it's definitely slipping, and i mean really slipping. As i watched the red carpet of the opening night of their show i couldn't help but think "wtf?" and at the same time "I'd kill to be there right now". It's so odd and foreign to me. "Punks" don't put their music on Broadway. Watching Green Day walk on the red carpet then Rosie O'Donnel and Donald Trump I couldn't help but scream "sell outs" in my mind. I don't like the fact they took their music and made a musical out of it because if you're punk, you don't do that. No way, no how. At the same time I'm going to see the musical in a few months because I'm such a dedicated fan and I'd LOVE to see it. I think people aren't that accepting of it because it's different, and I'll admit that i have that problem too because it's different. I want to see it, but at the same time I have an odd feeling about everything that's been going on. The musical, 21st Century Breakdown the album, their new fancy clothing, Green Day Rockband. Idk, but I do know I still love 'em. You can't call me an idiot but to be honest i won't give a damn.

[Diaverde66]

I've never really considered Green Day to be Punk, nor do I think they need to be. They're just good solid rock. There is no need for them to try to appeal to a small demographic of nostalgic punk-elitists who happen to have a list of things that "real" punks aren't suppose to do. They don't need to suck up to people who consider any successful band to be sell-outs. I think they're amazing and I know that there are a shitload of people that agree with me.

[ZeGuitarist]

Checked.

[coldr]

I hate guitar music

[Drogan408]

^^^^^ ur on the wrong site

[roland_96]

1) Green Day are like the Clash in a pretty huge way, in that they still consider themselves to be punk, though they take their music in a more varied direction than punk purists. 2) The Sex Pistols and the Clash were signed to major labels. 3) There are so many punk philosophies out there that one way or another you're going to be selling out. Green Day does what they want when they want regardless of what other people think.