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Green Day have been nominated in eight 2005 MTV Video Music Awards, more than any other band. Nominations for their "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" video include Best Video and Best Rock Video. Album "American Idiot" took nominations for Best Art Directon and Viewer's Choice.
In other acts, "Vertigo" helped U2 grab five nominations, and Coldplay's "Speed of Sound" earned British rockers four nods. Beck's "E-Pro" video is nominated for Best Male Video.
Nominees were unveiled in Miami on Monday morning (07/25). The ceremony will be broadcasted on August 28th.
You can find the whole list of 2005 MTV Video Music Awards nominees at RollingStone.com.
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QpNatashaOfKoRn
: UHG, I THINK GREEN DAY SUX, Boulavard was cool and others, but my opinion-I know don't be all pissy and say "why are u writing uf u don't like them" I wanted to.sorry POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:45 am / quote |
dooda
: GO GREEN DAY U GOOD THINGS. 1STPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:47 am / quote |
bryanm
: every song is a 3-4 power chord masterpiecePOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:13 am / quote |
Liamy
: Hmmm, well i hate MTV, but I love Green Day. I hope they do well anyway, I guess.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:16 am / quote |
bryanm
: oh by the way, here's a quote from Billy Joe Armstrong taken out of Holiday 2004 edition (pg 86): "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
clearly PM'ed power chords > heartbreaker, right?POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:28 am / quote |
bryanm
: ^^^^
forgot to say holiday 2004 edition of guitar world, where he was on the coverPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:29 am / quote |
nathan69
: Green Day are worth seeing...but MTV? EWWW lol. That network pisses me off...playing the rock videos at three in the morning...and their always the same..."Lets play foo fighters best of you 8 times in 3 hours!" Jesus Chirst *** you MTV sorry guys i went on a typing rampage but...Jesus what has this wotrld come to? Ok time to take my medicine...by the way...whoever says Green Day sucks...lick my nuts. Their more succesful then you, richer then you, and you cant touch them. Have a nice dayPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:31 am / quote |
bryanm
: Yeah, because how rich someone is must clearly be an indication of the quality of their pop music, right? They're rich and successful and on MTV because VIACOM wants them to be.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:43 am / quote |
slipsoad928
: as much as i love green day and have loved them since i was younger, i gotta say, im getting pretty damn sick of hearing about them every 10 seconds, and hearing one of their american idiot songs on the radio every 10 seconds.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 07:38 am / quote |
SRX700
: Well good for them. If you don't like it, save it. you're just wasting your time complaining. So instead of being on a guitar site complaining about Green Day being nominated for eight awards, why don't you go and try to get on MTV?POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 07:41 am / quote |
BlinkBlinkBlink
: ^^^^ dude what do you have against them. and no i dont believe that the quality of their pop music is reflected in their wealth, look at britney spears. but the fact remains that these guys are very succesful, and they dont always use power chords, even though you think so. time of your life, an acoustic masterpiece, as is there new song, wake me up when september ends. i dont listen to these guys but i dont hate them. its pricks like you who are so closed up and refuse to listen to bands like green day or jimmy eat world bcuz you think they're too cliched. well there are people woh like them, so instead of being tryna make guys like nathan69 sound like an idiot why dont yo go find a girlfriend.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 07:42 am / quote |
brightest13
: everytime an article about green day comes up, everyone gets in a big argument about whether they suck or not. it's kind of getting old. you can like what you like. get over it.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:30 am / quote |
FozzyMcQueen
: bryanm, are you sure he wasn't kidding? He's been known to joke about the credibility of his pop-punk musical ability...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:52 am / quote |
gr33nblink
: bryanm:
oh by the way, here's a quote from Billy Joe Armstrong taken out of Holiday 2004 edition (pg 86): "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
clearly PM'ed power chords > heartbreaker, right?
It's Billie. Thank you.
And don't moan about them being on every 10 minutes, I've liked Green Day since I was younger and they deserve it.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:01 am / quote |
emhaslam
: greenday r gud, but not tht gd, u2 r well beta and deserve 2 get 8 nominationsPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:27 am / quote |
Liam Alan
: I think it is funny when people talk about the MTV Video Music Awards like they are real awards. They are more irrelevant than the Grammys. They are the biggest joke to real musicians. These award don't mean anything. The past has shown that. I don't understand why everyone get so bent out of shape by these. Oh well.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:34 am / quote |
-TeddyNapperFi-
: They're obviously doing something right if they've been around for 16 years.
Right now, another generation is being introduced to them, and I think that's excellent. So their new material might not be as good as their old stuff, but any new fan with any common sense will check out their back catalogue and realise this is just a progression, albeit, a good one.
Well done to them, not many bands get this far.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:35 am / quote |
thefinalcut
: "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page."
I hope he was joking (probably just ignorant)...Page can easily hold down any Greenday song your throw at him. In fact, most decent guitarist could.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:35 am / quote |
hell awaits 666
: "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
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If he thinks playing three simple power chords is more difficult than playin' stairway to heaven (eventhuogh it isn't difficult to play it)POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:00 am / quote |
hell awaits 666
: btw, to all yopu Green Day fans, what makes him a good guitarist?, if anyone how can play a pentatonic scale is already a better guitarist than him...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:03 am / quote |
xchris78
: Old Green Day ruled now their sellouts. Just flat out punk sellouts. They used to be unique and sound awesome now they SUCKPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:04 am / quote |
GetLostInIt776
: yeah *** MTV but Green Day rules...let's GO BILLIE JOE!!!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:27 am / quote |
ajbmosh
: I don't like or dislike Green Day but i respect them. It shows they actually care about their fans and music if they've been around for 16 years. The could have stopped 10 years ago and they'd be loaded enough to live comfortable lives.
Besides, Billy Joe sings, so he doesn't exactly have to pull off a Jimmy Page although i do think he must have been joking when he said that statement.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:30 am / quote |
SlashPWNAGE
: Mmmm kay, here my point of view on this, Dont really care if you talk about me and waste your time so have at it, but anyway, Not every band has to have a guitar virtuoso like Steve Vai, Billie fits green days style of music and i personally thought that there latest album "American Idiot" was brilliant for their style of muisc I mean sure it dosent compare to anything of guitar Greatness, but it does what its supposed to and sounds trashy and is how would you say? oh yes PUNK..... anyway, i am done....
Have a nice day!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:31 am / quote |
Slashfan#1
: bryanm:
oh by the way, here's a quote from Billy Joe Armstrong taken out of Holiday 2004 edition (pg 86): "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
clearly PM'ed power chords > heartbreaker, right?
^^^What a load of shit Jimmy Page easy to copy, yeah that is why all the fu*kin 12 kinds can play Greenday shit and most of Zeppelin other that Stairway and Whole Lotta Love is pretty tough even though those 2 are my Favorit songs to play.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:44 am / quote |
Lord Zippy
: ^ would you have the stamina and ability ot pull off a two hour punk show while still entertaining the crowd and hitting each chord as precisley as always? i think thats what he's talking about.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:55 am / quote |
hell awaits 666
: would you have the stamina and ability ot pull off a two hour punk show while still entertaining the crowd and hitting each chord as precisley as always? i think thats what he's talking about.
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well, Alexi Laiho and Zakk Wylde can, and they even play solos while singin'...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:06 am / quote |
PUNK_JB_96
: Jimmy Paige Is to amazing to compare even though if u've played guitar for a while alot there songs ain't that hard there some greenday songs that i can't play compared to zepp ones that i can playPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:12 am / quote |
OzZY-RuLE5!!!!!
: Greenday ***ing sucks. they are so overplayed. i had some respect for the song time of your life.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:18 am / quote |
thetoastinator
: Most people dont like Green Day for their guitar though, I think its because of their lyrics.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:38 am / quote |
A Warm Place
: Someone has probably said this before, but I really don't like it when people bash bands and styles of music. Of course, I've done this myself before, but I try not to, because different kinds of people like different kinds of music. Oh, and just because a song is simple to play, it doesn't mean the song is crap. Some people just aren't as good at guitar, or they choose to hold back because it's their style. What do you guys think?POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:46 am / quote |
mikedrum3
: Green Day doesnt deserve shit. Before this cd they never gave a *** about politics and now all the sudden because Sum 41 cares Green Day has to pretend like they do. Just to try and brainwash the weak minded induviduals to hate George Bush. I know it sounds cliched and i hate it when people say it but Green Day sold out big time on this album. I think thats the only time ive even thought about using that phrase.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:50 am / quote |
mikedrum3
: Not to mention, the songs arnt even good. It seems like Billy Joe doesnt know more than like 10 powerchords and he just recycles those about a thousand times an album.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:52 am / quote |
pdawg
: hell awaits 666:
btw, to all yopu Green Day fans, what makes him a good guitarist?, if anyone how can play a pentatonic scale is already a better guitarist than him... |
See, you are just ignorant. Although Billie Joe primarily uses powerchords in his songs (which there is nothing wrong in doing, powerchords are probably one of the most useful chords that you are able to play), he is a great guitarist. His songs on 1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours contained solos that were actually impressive. He was around seventeen then, and he's been playing guitar for fifteen or more years as his job, so he's probably practice more than any of you have (just assumming). I'm just saying, Billie Joe is a good guitarist and is far more than a powerchord rhythmist. I've seen him play amazing things, and he is probably a better guitarist than any of you. Don't make fun of him if you can't back it up.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:52 am / quote |
pdawg
: Although, I do agree that this album was a 'sell-out'. It was also repetitive. They had some good songs, but instrumentally, it wasn't very impressive. Great job on nominations I guess, even though it is controlled by MTV. (ugh)POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:59 am / quote |
VoodooMyk
: Ok guys, This is my first post here, but I have been checkin the page out for almost 2 yrs. I have seen all out brawls between people over this kind of thread... I am a guitarist, been playin for a while, but I'm not some 40 year old "NeverWas". I'm young, but not a kid. My whole outlook on this is simple: Everyone likes different things, and for the style they play, GD is a great band. Probably one of the best. BUT you can't compare GD to Led Zep. Just Like you can't compare Jimmy Page from Led Zep, to Michael Angelo Batio or Dimebag Darrell... You are ALL right (Well most of you) on your replies and posts. Yes, guitar wise... green day isn't all that special. 3 chords and thats what ya have. MOST punk bands and commercial rock bands ( Breaking Benj.,Crossfade etc..) Aren't about playing wicked licks and intricate.. do they play solos? SOmetimes yes... not very good ones by standards of say Zakk, Slash or Snake... Now.. in my opinion GD is a lil overplayed and overrated...and more than likely had president Bush not been in office tehy wouldnt have had nearly as much success. Just the facts... I meantheir main single was a bush bashing track. And I know they hardcore GD worshippers will say its not.. but it is lol..Point is... greenday is good for what they do, but what they o isnt rocket science,POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:01 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: nathan69:
Green Day are worth seeing...but MTV? EWWW lol. That network pisses me off...playing the rock videos at three in the morning...and their always the same..."Lets play foo fighters best of you 8 times in 3 hours!" Jesus Chirst *** you MTV sorry guys i went on a typing rampage but...Jesus what has this wotrld come to? Ok time to take my medicine...by the way...whoever says Green Day sucks...lick my nuts. Their more succesful then you, richer then you, and you cant touch them. Have a nice day |
bryanm:
oh by the way, here's a quote from Billy Joe Armstrong taken out of Holiday 2004 edition (pg 86): "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
clearly PM'ed power chords > heartbreaker, right? |
--To the first guy, youre an idiot, although I agree with you about MTV's procedures, the fact that you like Green Day automatically disqualifies you from being respected by me as a sensible human being. The fact that we can all lick your nuts because Green Days richer than us means that, evidently Green Day licks 50 Cent's nuts because hes way richer than them. And in all acutality I think if approached by 50, Green Day would in turn probably lick nuts to be as rich as him. After Green Day changed their style to become Tv friendly, their total respect in most people with sense, has died. But in all fairness Green Day has been a limited source of talent (with the exception of the drummer) since they first hit the seen and from what I can tell havent much improved since then. The next quote is true to a certain extent. It very well might be harder to play punk rock rythym than imitate Page, but the members of Green Day will never know as they are not anything close to punk, Id say they are modern soft rock/teen alternative. They are to punk what Vanilla Ice is to gangsta rap. lolPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:01 pm / quote |
pdawg
: ^You prove a point. Their own material is far from punk, but Billie never really said that they are punk (I believe). They were heavily influenced by true punk, and I'm sure when they were getting started, all they played was punk covers. But they wanted to start something new that everyone could listen to because it was punk-influenced music with catchy vocals and easy to play guitar.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:06 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: mikedrum3:
Green Day doesnt deserve shit. Before this cd they never gave a *** about politics and now all the sudden because Sum 41 cares Green Day has to pretend like they do. Just to try and brainwash the weak minded induviduals to hate George Bush. I know it sounds cliched and i hate it when people say it but Green Day sold out big time on this album. I think thats the only time ive even thought about using that phrase. |
| pdawg:See, you are just ignorant. Although Billie Joe primarily uses powerchords in his songs (which there is nothing wrong in doing, powerchords are probably one of the most useful chords that you are able to play), he is a great guitarist. |
--Correction, neither Sum 41 nor Green Day deserve shit and both with their mildly political quasi left wing inspired lyrics make much sense or make anyone believe that they are sincere about any of the bulls*t that they claim to know about. It just seems like the cool thing to do, I dont see Green Day or Sum playing free concerts in Cuba or Puerto Rico to raise awareness, I dont see them donating any money to the starving and oppressed African or European third world nations. They are fake and shouldnt even be taken seriously when making a political statement, I mean no one takes them seriously any other time anyways. They metaphorically shit on when it comes to the likes of Rage Against The Machine, System of A Down or even NOFX, so quit saying that these pussies are political bands.
-To the next guy, youve made about as much sense as Rush Limbaugh speaking at the million man march to a youth group about the harms of street gangs. You have no real knowledge about your instrument if you think that there is nothing wrong with playing power chords and power chords only, I think anybody with half a brain will more than likely quickly scroll past any future posts of yours.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:13 pm / quote |
Erc
: | I'm just saying, Billie Joe is a good guitarist and is far more than a powerchord rhythmist. I've seen him play amazing things, and he is probably a better guitarist than any of you. Don't make fun of him if you can't back it up. |
^ Hope that quote worked...anyways until I hear Billie Joe play a Yngwie cover then I will continue to think he sucks at guitar.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:14 pm / quote |
tambourine_man
: "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
First of all you idiots, he never said anything demeaning to Jimmy Page, he said playing good punk rock guitar(which would be playing not just power chords, and playing them well) is harder than just copying what Page did. Page is a monster, he will be able to tear the sh*t up until he dies, but its not hard to copy his licks. I rest my case.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:22 pm / quote |
pdawg
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Sasha Bond:
-To the next guy, youve made about as much sense as Rush Limbaugh speaking at the million man march to a youth group about the harms of street gangs. You have no real knowledge about your instrument if you think that there is nothing wrong with playing power chords and power chords only, I think anybody with half a brain will more than likely quickly scroll past any future posts of yours. |
First of all, I did say there was nothing wrong with powerchords, but I never said there is nothing wrong with ONLY playing powerchords.
pdawg:
Although, I do agree that this album was a 'sell-out'. It was also repetitive. They had some good songs, but instrumentally, it wasn't very impressive. |
Powerchords are one of the best guitar chords because they are easy to play, you get a nice solid sound, and you can play any note on the scale using them. But, using them constantly without any variety or improvisition is annoying and stupid.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:28 pm / quote |
leavink
: ^a bit of what you said makes sense. But billy should start playing his own solo's live -_-;;POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:30 pm / quote |
fade2black2004
: ive seen green day love and they werent good at all,ive seen videos of them live and they do the exact same shit every show and it gets old fast, they talk more than they play which also get old, plus in my opinion green day suck in general all there songs are nothing but powerchords aand all theyre songs sound the same andd thats suck balls, theyre just three pop punk pussysPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:33 pm / quote |
Kotie
: Billie Joe is probably a better guitarist than he lets on to be, but he isn't good. He's not the type of guitarist you should idolize or admire for his "revolutionary guitarwork." And sometimes he plays more than just powerchords, not often, but don't use songs like the intro to "Minority" or the song "Good Riddance" as examples, because they're still really simple chord progressions.
On their latest album, they're trying to be something they aren't. They were a joke before, but now they're just posers. Billie Joe is a bad guitarist, not the worst, but not very talented. If he was better, why wouldn't he at least try and show some of his talent in at least one of his songs?
And that thing he said about it being harder to play punk rock rhythm than to cover Jimmy Page. I could've learned every Green Day song ever written in the time it would've taken me to learn songs like "Heartbreaker" and "The Ocean."
Anyways, Green Day's songs now aren't as good as they're older stuff....I wish they'd kept going the way of their earlier albums and make more songs with catchy basslines like "Longview" and "Warning."POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:37 pm / quote |
Lord Zippy
: Listen to the solo in "only of you " on 1039. Telll me that isnt impressivePOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:42 pm / quote |
pdawg
: Lord Zippy:
Listen to the solo in "only of you " on 1039. Telll me that isnt impressive |
the judges daughter, dry ice tooPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:47 pm / quote |
SnakeEyedDemon
: I'm not saying I hate green day... but I dont like them! old school green day used to rock but now..... yeah I give them credit for utilizing power chords but it's just the same old tunes every now and then. I still got their "dookie" album and still listen to it but their latest songs.. I dont know what to say..... anyway, that's all I got.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:48 pm / quote |
Sören
: The hype about Green Day is so annoying. American Idiot was a good album, nothing outstanding or impressive, just good.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:52 pm / quote |
mikedrum3
: Politics and music should never be used in the same sentnce. Let alone really shitty and fake political music. Green Day truely is a group of posers these days. The only reason that gay ass song american idiot gets played is because all of the media is so left wing and cant stand george bush. Is it a coicidence that they released that song about a month or so before the elcetion? No they just "hate" george bush because thats what cool to do. Thats just pathetic that billie joe has to jump on a ***ing band wagon to sell a cd. Green Day's new music is just fake and empty, not to mention repetitive and uninspiring. They are the definition of sell outs, and dont have the balls to stand their own ground with their beliefs.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:54 pm / quote |
BMAN12688
: this is why i watch maniatv and fuse
www.maniatv.com
o btw, Jesus of Suburbia...is 4 chords... thats it. matter in fact, the whole cd goes on a 4 chord progression. makes sense because their cd was stolen and made this all up in less than a month. mehPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:57 pm / quote |
weezergeek182
: | Politics and music should never be used in the same sentnce. Let alone really shitty and fake political music. Green Day truely is a group of posers these days. The only reason that gay ass song american idiot gets played is because all of the media is so left wing and cant stand george bush. Is it a coicidence that they released that song about a month or so before the elcetion? No they just "hate" george bush because thats what cool to do. Thats just pathetic that billie joe has to jump on a ***ing band wagon to sell a cd. Green Day's new music is just fake and empty, not to mention repetitive and uninspiring. They are the definition of sell outs, and dont have the balls to stand their own ground with their beliefs. |
yeah. you know some bands can make it on...oh what do they call that?....PURE TALENT!!!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 12:58 pm / quote |
Atheist Peace
: i need to quote this guy (moxact) who wrote this thing on the previous article:
"First of all, English is not my first language so don’t blame me if I made some stupid grammar mistakes.. anyway...
WOW! I don’t even know where to start! I am so shocked at most of the comments on this website. One of my friends sent me the link and I’ve just read through every single comments on this article...and I feel really sorry for some of you guys here. Actually, I hardly defend any bands when it comes to internet discussion but this is just too much. I feel obliged so that I had to register and make a comment here. Green Day is one of my favorite bands that I grew up with since the Dookie days. So, you all, hear this before you diss them without knowing anything at all;
Yes, they play powerchords and so what? That’s what “Punk” is all about! Punk in the first place is meant to be simple, fast, rebelious, edgy, and straight to the point. Punk movement in the 70’s was all against the hair metal bands, mainstream media, major labels and all the cooperations. It’s all about energy, true spirit, simplicity. It’s the music that’s straight to the point and make you question authority and everything around us. Punk doesn’t need solos or anything pretencious. It’s a music that people just want to express their rage, anger, frustration and extreme emotions through guitar riffs, catchy bass lines and drums. Just simple as that..."POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:05 pm / quote |
Atheist Peace
: "...And what about Green Day? Some people may ask, they are not “Punk” but hear this, they came from a very serious background, they had paid their dues in the real “punk scene” called 924 Gilman Street Club, and travelled across the country playing the music they love without any help or money from major labels and they did it by their own. It was all about punk philosophy and the idea of “Do It Yourself”. Is that punk all about? They formed the band since they were 14 years old and they’ve stuck together for about 20 years. Don’t forget about Billie Joe, he started playing piano before he was even 5 years old and got his first guitar when he turned 11. He stuck to it for the rest of the time, and how can people say they are not true to music or they are shit, suck, or worthless piece of shit? They are people just like everyone who have stuck to their beliefs and philosophy and everything. These guys are amazing if you just know their past and the way they live their lives and all that. One word I can tell you, They’re REAL.
And guess what, Billie Joe is real talent guitar player. Believe me 25 years of music experiences at playing guitar surely doesn’t make him suck. Try listen to their first record called “1039/Smooth Out And Slappy Hours” which they made it when they were just about 17. There are some really crazy solos there, try “The Judge’s Daughter” or “Dry Ice” and such. And keep it in mind, he was just about 17. Now he is 33, count that. But do you know why he doesn’t play solos anymore? Actually when he was young, he loved solos and everything because he used to be really into metal bands, hard rock and stuffs, but when he grew up he realised that music is’t all about complexity and solos. Music could be simple but sounds good at the same time. And that’s why he moved himself from metal to punk and began his life in the punk community along with Rancid and Operation Ivy at Gilman Street Club. Billie Joe doesn’t want to show off, because he believes in his friends, Mike and Tre. Music isn’t all about guitar solos, drums and bass lines are as importants as guitar part. That’s what he believes, the composition, every part of instrument is all equal..."POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:05 pm / quote |
Ol'Master
: Green day is overhyped, their old stuff outweighs their new stuff. that said, it's not bad. but a little originality between their songs wouldn't hurt.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:06 pm / quote |
Atheist Peace
: "...What about Green Day jumping on “I hate Bush” bandwagon. Read this, they are not just trying to jump on hating Bush because it’s cool. No! That’s wrong. They have always been mild political involved since “Warning”. They even joined the Punk Voter Coalition before American Idiot. The Most important thing is that ,they didn’t even know that American Idiot is going to sell this much. It was a risk for them as a mainstream band. It’s dangerous for them to do that, it could be the end of their career or the new begining of their lives. They didn’t know shit. They just did it because it reflects their beliefs and their interests at the time. And believe me, they aren’t a band like RATM, or NOFX. They’re not political bands. That’s not Green Day. They just make music that reflect their interest at them time, they don’t have particular issues to sing about. They do sing about love, girls, friends, hope, social commentary, drugs, and everything that come to their lives. That’s what Green Day is about all, making music that reflects their lives at the time. Nothing more than that.
You can call them “Sellouts” or whatever. They don’t care, because they know what they’ve been doing. The only time I would consider them “Selling Out” is when they signed to major label in 1994 and betrayed their hardcore peers at the punk scene. But if you count that, I would call the Clash and Ramones “Sellouts” as well. And please don’t get me start with the whole debate “punk” thing if you don’t know anything about it at all. And remember this, before you call other people that “they are not punk”, ask youself a question “what is punk” and “who are you to judge who is punk and who is not”. “Do you even know their background, their philosophy and what they stand for?”. If you can’t answer all of those questions, don’t bother dissing anyone. You’re not any better than the one you’re dissing..."
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http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/green_day_pay_tribute.htmlPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:09 pm / quote |
leonidas69
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I do think it's pretty easy to hate george Bush... Guess why?
if you'd ever try understanding anything in politics (not only national, I mean) you'd hate G.B too...
try smartening up before having political opinionsPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:24 pm / quote |
Goshdangit88
: Atheist Peace you are so ***ing right.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:31 pm / quote |
prs82
: Good for Green Day, too bad they suck.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:40 pm / quote |
Stevethegreat
: Atheist Peace is a great song. Anyways, who really watches the VMA's anyways?POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 01:50 pm / quote |
leprecon90
: "hell awaits 666:
btw, to all yopu Green Day fans, what makes him a good guitarist?, if anyone how can play a pentatonic scale is already a better guitarist than him..."
coz he can write decent songs, unlike a lot of new bands springing up around the place, its not the difficulty of the songs u write, its how it sounds.. *yes.. corny indeed, but true*POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:12 pm / quote |
stumaster18
: brightest13: everytime an article about green day comes up, everyone gets in a big argument about whether they suck or not. it's kind of getting old. you can like what you like. get over it.
True!! I could not have said it in better words. well done, and green day IS amazing!!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:24 pm / quote |
greendaygirluk
: I'm getting ***ing sick of this. How can you call billie joe a bad guitarist? I've seen him do very impressive things like play solos with his teeth for crying out loud and u say all he can do is play power chords? jeez go listen to their intire back catalouge and come back and tell me u really do think hes shit biatches!
Now about the mainstreamness. What is your problem anyway? why are people so bothered about if a band they like make it into the limelight again after 16 years of making music? So ***ing what. They didnt even dream that american idiot would be the success it is today, but if it's made it, why does that mean you automatically cannot like it because its mainstream? i Mean come on guys, its not as if green day are a manufactured pop band now is it. They "sold out" in the dookie era ok?
Now for whoever made the comment of green day live. YES THEY ARE GOOD. "they do the same shit at every show and they talk more than they play."
yes green day do do the same things (eg get fans up to play the instruments) but do u realise how much it means to the fans who get chosen? ive heard it all before "yeh but its getting tiring" but the look of the faces of those chosen is enough to want green day to carry on with the tradition. Green day are all about theyre fans (they dont have to carry on with making music, they could hapilly retire extremely early without any financial problems but they carry on for the fans.) and they never dissapoint. Audience participation is a great part of the gig and theyre undeniably the greatest band i have seen live, i never tire of seeing them live. Theyre better than quite a lot of my other favorite bands who were quite disapointing seen as they hardly comunicated with the audience and only stayed on stage for a bit. As for the "they talk more than they play" bit WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. they may talk to the audience yes, but they play a lot too. its not as if they just play a few songs now is it?
And dont say american idiot isnt theyre style because frankly if you look at each album theyve had theyre not all the same style, if they were it'd be too repetitive.
But in the end, green day are green day. Theyre not only musical geniuses but they have attitude and theyre not afraid to be who they are. I might only be 15 years old but i have ***ing stong opinions about green day and punk in general, so quit it with your pathetic views on green day. i can understand if u dont like them because we all are very different, but what youre saying about them is a pile of shit.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:27 pm / quote |
FretPopper
: I enjoyed Dookie loads more than American Idiot simply because the songs were more fun to sing along too. I don't understand why some of you think if they don't shred major ass in their songs they suck. I enjoy Green Day even though I am more of a harder rock fan, they are fun to listen to (not every 10 songs on the radio though).POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:27 pm / quote |
stumaster18
: thank you greendaygirluk. everything you said is true, and I admire you for saying all of that green day is probably the f ucking best band of all time. well...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:29 pm / quote |
dookedoutnimrod
: http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0MC3GLTGY85TG2Q1493ESEBGAD
just listen, that sure is good for a 17 year old.
btw the last clip is from the dookie days,its not that good just a bit different style.
i wont post clips of mike and tre playing cuz their talent is to ovbious.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:37 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: Atheist Peace:
"...And what about Green Day? Some people may ask, they are not ?Punk? but hear this, they came from a very serious background, they had paid their dues in the real ?punk scene? called 924 Gilman Street Club, and travelled across the country playing the music they love without any help or money from major labels and they did it by their own. It was all about punk philosophy and the idea of ?Do It Yourself?. Is that punk all about? They formed the band since they were 14 years old and they?ve stuck together for about 20 years. Don?t forget about Billie Joe, he started playing piano before he was even 5 years old and got his first guitar when he turned 11. He stuck to it for the rest of the time, and how can people say they are not true to music or they are shit, suck, or worthless piece of shit? They are people just like everyone who have stuck to their beliefs and philosophy and everything. These guys are amazing if you just know their past and the way they live their lives and all that. One word I can tell you, They?re REAL.
And guess what, Billie Joe is real talent guitar player. Believe me 25 years of music experiences at playing guitar surely doesn?t make him suck. Try listen to their first record called ?1039/Smooth Out And Slappy Hours? which they made it when they were just about 17. There are some really crazy solos there, try ?The Judge?s Daughter? or ?Dry Ice? and such. And keep it in mind, he was just about 17. Now he is 33, count that. But do you know why he doesn?t play solos anymore? Actually when he was young, he loved solos and everything because he used to be really into metal bands, hard rock and stuffs, but when he grew up he realised that music is?t all about complexity and solos. Music could be simple but sounds good at the same time. And that?s why he moved himself from metal to punk and began his life in the punk community along with Rancid and Operation Ivy at Gilman Street Club. Billie Joe doesn?t want to show off, because he believes in his friends, Mike and Tre. Music isn?t all about guitar solos, drums and bass lines are as importants as guitar part. That?s what he believes, the composition, every part of instrument is all equal..." |
--Youve already used this same argument in the last Green Day news posts and everything you just said weve already heard. The fact of the matter is that anyone who truly knows anything about music wouldnt dream of taking sh*t Green Day does musically seriously. Bottom Line. Point BlankPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:42 pm / quote |
Super_Chris
: greendaygirl think ur opinion is a bit biased. just coz he playes wit his teeth.. does that make him a guitar legend(i think not) plenty others have dun it b4 him hes not exactly stevie ray vhaun of the guitar world. yeah i like greenday but they aren't the most talented band to b honest, theres plenty local talent in my town doin gigs that are far more talented just they have yet to b discoverd. but if i was a band i'd get sick of bein underground and if u think right we all enjoy music most teenagers have bands wit intentions of gettin famous and makin the big bucks just like green day have. so well dun to them for gettin 8 MVA and remember its for videos shot by directors not the music in them guys!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:49 pm / quote |
greendaygirluk
: yeh im not saying hes "a guitar legend" tho, im just pointing out the fact he can do a lot more than just "play power chords".POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:52 pm / quote |
jklsadj;sadjfak
: lol...who cares if its mtv....its like winning a grammy but easier. they deserve it and they better get it. people that say theyre not punk for winning awards are just riddiculus. and i agree with athiest peace, they arent like simple plan and stuff that just got lucky, they definatly earned it.
sasha bond saying that you cant take theyr music seriously.....bands that dont take ther music seriously dont sell 55 million albums, win 2 grammys, or get nominated for 8 vma's.
i am the green day master, dont *** with me, youll lose.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:53 pm / quote |
kaplac
: Has anyone listened to the drums? At least the drummer has something most all people can't do.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 02:58 pm / quote |
HamBoy10
: Once you get down to the bottom, nobody even cares they got 8 nominations or whatever. It's just everybody saying "GD sucks" which isn't really what the article is about. I don't care really. I hate GD. Their music is terrible. If the MTV popularity awards actually considered what the music even sounded like I'm sure that GD wouldn't even have one nomination.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:11 pm / quote |
crystal_pistol
: green day rocks...its sad that my dads the one that introduced me to them...hm. im incredibly happy that they've been together for years and years...and im keepin my fingers crossed i hope they get all those awards...and they probably will coz they freakin rock POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:21 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: sasha bond saying that you cant take theyr music seriously.....bands that dont take ther music seriously dont sell 55 million albums, win 2 grammys, or get nominated for 8 vma's.
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--N* Sync has sold almost 80 million records worldwide, won countless VMAs and were nominated for 5 years straight...They are better than Green Day...No exceptionsPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:34 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: ^^^^See how ridiculous it sounds....you guys have to make a better argument than just : "OH MY GOD THEY SELL MORE THAN ANYBODY YOU LIKE"POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:35 pm / quote |
phoenix_88
: | would you have the stamina and ability ot pull off a two hour punk show while still entertaining the crowd and hitting each chord as precisley as always? i think thats what he's talking about. |
He doesn't hit every chord precisley. nor does he even play guitar half the time. nor the solos either. thats all the other guitarist. which is just sickening. Billy Joe can't even play his parts anymore. he just sings basically. Dookie = good. American Idiot was a bunch of sold out commercial crap. Why SUDDENLY change every topic you sing about? why suddenly structure your songs differently? why try to make a masterpiece about something you don't understand? And they only play 4 power chords in about everysong they ever wrote. Not a horrible thing, that's their music. Like i said, i liked dookie. But this record is all hype and media. Oh but they're against the media aren't they. Cause it's all controlled by idiots. That's why you're always on it...
In my opinion, Green Day needs to go back to their roots. sure they have no talent musically, but like Nirvana, Fall Out Boy, etc. They make catchy music. Just not when they're being something they're not.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:55 pm / quote |
anti-goth
: | ^^^ dude what do you have against them. and no i dont believe that the quality of their pop music is reflected in their wealth, look at britney spears. but the fact remains that these guys are very succesful, and they dont always use power chords, even though you think so. time of your life, an acoustic masterpiece, as is there new song, wake me up when september ends. i dont listen to these guys but i dont hate them. its pricks like you who are so closed up and refuse to listen to bands like green day or jimmy eat world bcuz you think they're too cliched. well there are people woh like them, so instead of being tryna make guys like nathan69 sound like an idiot why dont yo go find a girlfriend. |
acoustic masterpiece? time of your life(actually good riddance dumbass) marty friedman did better than billy joe did in holy wars...the punishment due in 5 seconds than billie joe did in 4 minutes in that song! christ!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:55 pm / quote |
phoenix_88
: | i wont post clips of mike and tre playing cuz their talent is to ovbious. |
Tre recycles beats like nobody else i know.
Mike just copies the guitar line for the most part. Where's the AMAZING talent?POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 03:57 pm / quote |
anti-goth
: i meant to say the acoustic solo of holy warsPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 04:11 pm / quote |
JC 2K3
: They're very average to be honest, but meh, leave them alone, fair play to theem, they've broken into the lucrative teenage girls' market, and regardless of what their background is right now they're earning a shitload of money playing simple songs, singing about popular issues and looking good.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 04:14 pm / quote |
GetLostInIt776
: so are all you people saying that you have to be SRV or Eric Clapton or Jimi Hendrix to deserve musical recognition? if so that's bulls hit. music is an art form...and what you people are basically saying is: "well...you're doing it WRONG." there is no right and wrong in artwork and expression...people are free to express themselves how they want to. even if some art doesnt appeal to you personally, that doesnt mean you should automatically make fun of them and say bad things about them. look at Willie Nelson. he is only an average guitar player...and some people hate his voice. but look how well respected he is in the musical community! you could ask any member of any band what they thought of willie nelson and with the exception of some metalhead from europe theyd prolly all say "yeah hes a rad guy"...so what im saying is even if you dont appreciate a particular artists music, you should at least respect them for their accomplishments and how hard they've worked to get where they are. thats all im saying...you dont have to like green day, but at least respect them, because, quite frankly, green day is more succesful at doing what they love than anyone on this post...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 04:52 pm / quote |
azerty_66
: All of this just because they got 8 mtv nominations... people, it's MTV, and as far as i know, most people on this site dont even care about mtv. So why bother making all this comments and starting arguments that just create a bad atmosphere, like there's only 2 sides you can be on, hate it or love it?
I personally don't care if they get 8 or 88 nominations, I'm not a fan, I don't listen to their music, and I dont really like them either. So what.
This is all very cliche and not worth the fighting about. People like Green Day and people hate Green Day, some people don't care. It will always be like that and you can't change it. Trying to change things like that is the same thing Hitler tried to do...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:02 pm / quote |
Nirvana_rocks73
: Don't like them anymore. I used to when they did real music and werent sellouts. cant they stay real like Nirvana did? or like Red Hot Chili Peppers. And Jimmy Page is a waaay better guitarist that Billie Joe Armstrong or whatever.I dont care though good for them..They used to be cool. I'm sick of hearing about them or their new songs on the radio.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:09 pm / quote |
Nirvana_rocks73
: nevermind not good for them!!why did I say that. Jimmy Page is a friggin legend Billie Joe Armstrong cant do much.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:13 pm / quote |
Nirvana_rocks73
: they just shouldnt get so much hype I think its much better without the hype. Peole are like obsessed with them its annoying and they're songs get way WAY overplayed.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:20 pm / quote |
Nirvana_rocks73
: but you know whatever they dont have to be the greatest I respect that they're doing what the love and having fun doing it. I just wish music was the way it used to be. I'm just personally not a fan of green day and I dont care! but people are free to like them if they wantPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:24 pm / quote |
clazz
: Do we have to argue about whether they're good or not? It's not what the article was posted about. If you don't like them, don't reply to the article, because I don't go on articles about bands I hate to declare that I do.
Anyway, that was predictable to be honest. BOBD was way too overplayed, bah.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:32 pm / quote |
Nirvana101
: GREENDAY LICK HAIRY GOAT NUTSACKPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:36 pm / quote |
Chris inman
: | They are to punk what Vanilla Ice is to gangsta rap. lol |
exactly^POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:48 pm / quote |
Chris inman
: | powerchords are the most useful type of chord | come on, when will u realize were talkin about the fact that thats ALL HE USES and not that powerchords themselves are a bad thingPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:49 pm / quote |
jklsadj;sadjfak
: i dont know how to quote, but sasha bond said this
--N* Sync has sold almost 80 million records worldwide, won countless VMAs and were nominated for 5 years straight...They are better than Green Day...No exceptions
ya, but nsync didnt come from dirt poor familys, do 2 nation tours in an old broken down van, sleep on fans floors, sleep outside, and the only way they got gas money was by selling homemade shirts...all before they got on a major lable. nsync also hasnt been one of the most influencial bands of the past decade, and be around and still successful after 15+ years(really like 17 or 18.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:53 pm / quote |
jklsadj;sadjfak
: and bj uses some stuff besides powerchords, just lots of powerchords.
btw sasha bond...you know a little too much about nsync...i think we have an nsync fan here.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 05:56 pm / quote |
istandalone
: sasha bond y are on a guitar websight talkinga bout how good nsync is and putting down a great bandPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 06:19 pm / quote |
DE Guitar
: powerchords or no powerchords, it's Greenday! and if you dont like 'em dont listen to them.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 07:46 pm / quote |
jables23092
: he kind of looks like frankie munez in that picturePOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 07:56 pm / quote |
Clarkinator
: ALl the people saying Green Day only play three chords a song have never really heard a lot of Green Day songs, they are 14 year old kids copying what there friends say.
I have heard every Green Day song ever recorded, from their first album to their last. My opinion is as valid as anyone's here. SO here it is: Billie Joe IS in fact a good guitarist, he can play melodic solos that complement the song well, he can play very fast licks, and Green Day are very good FOR THE MUSIC THEY PLAY. So to all you stupid 14 year old metal fans saying Green Day suck at guitar and only play three chords, I win, you lose. I can back my shit up cuz I have heard all their songs, im not voicing my older brother who thinks hes some metal lovin hardass' opinionPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:32 pm / quote |
HamBoy10
: HEY CLARKINATOR! I WAS TALKING ABOUT JABLES COMMENT! NOT YOURS!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:36 pm / quote |
CLOWNDEACAN
: greenday kicks ass, what billie joe lacks in guitar skill he makes up for in vocal and musical talant. but i gotta say, american idiot the album was a sellout on the most part. gotta love their old stuff (esp dookie!!)POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:41 pm / quote |
Mental Hop
: Why would UG do this? Post any news on Green Day? I'm not against Green Day really, but c'mon. This is like blood in shark tank for these angry UGers.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:43 pm / quote |
CLOWNDEACAN
: well, because rock news is rock news, no matter what some idiots thinkPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:52 pm / quote |
Ahh Shaith
: I ***ing HATE GREEN DAY. No, when I say "hate". It's hate as you know it now, times 1,000,000,000,000 and times that by 10. I despise this band and all the other bands like them. FUCKING DIE GREEN DAY. FUCKING DIE. I am so pissed right now. Yo, UG, never ever post anything like this again. Ever. Die. Everyone. Die.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 08:52 pm / quote |
brightest13
: who cares. give it a rest already.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:00 pm / quote |
Ahh Shaith
: Okay, okay. Brightest is right. But let me do my Billie Joe impression first. Here we go. -Turns around and messes up hair- "My name is Billie Joe. I think I am better than Jimmy Page. And I play rhythm guitar for....For Green Day. I am awesome. Do you like my tie that doesn't fit? Do you like my eye liner? I really hope I look rebellious and original." Die you worthless ***. Just die. The human race is a mistake. People like him easily prove that...POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:03 pm / quote |
punkrocker_336
: well i odn't have anything against greenday but their new cd sucked, posers listen to them and i hate that people who don't listen to music know them and that makes me angry i like their oold cds but this one is way over played and it makes me mad not that it's their fault but uhg! it's juss a stupid cdPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:07 pm / quote |
Sasha Bond
: jklsadj;sadjfak:
and bj uses some stuff besides powerchords, just lots of powerchords.
btw sasha bond...you know a little too much about nsync...i think we have an nsync fan here.
[POSTED: 26 July 2005 - 17:56]|
istandalone:
sasha bond y are on a guitar websight talkinga bout how good nsync is and putting down a great band
|
--I think that I can honestly say that Green Days music has no more depth than N* SYnc's and yes if I were given the chance to choose Id probably listen to N*Sync over Green Day, at least there cute.lolPOSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:10 pm / quote |
fizz180
: Green days new album doesnt deserve that much credit.. i mean c'mon!!! there music is so simple.. its not even pleasing to the ears much unless youve been brainwashed by by MTV!!!POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:21 pm / quote |
jklsadj;sadjfak
: sasha bond....ive lost all respect for you...your an nsync fan, its official.
and as for this guy( i dont know how to use quotes.
punkrocker_336:
well i odn't have anything against greenday but their new cd sucked, posers listen to them and i hate that people who don't listen to music know them and that makes me angry i like their oold cds but this one is way over played and it makes me mad not that it's their fault but uhg! it's juss a stupid cd
your so punk..with your punkrocker screen name, calling people posers.
*rolls eyes*POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 09:45 pm / quote |
selloutpunx
: dear guitar geeks,
just because a song is hard to play on guitar does not mean it is good. just because a song is easy to play, does not mean it is bad.
your simplicity never ceases to amaze me.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:16 pm / quote |
The AfterLight
: I don't like Green Day and I've only heard them from time to time on the radio, but it's pretty stupid to waste time clicking a link to trash them. I read this because I wanted to see some music news. So they're nominated, good for them. Yes, their music is no where near the most complicated nor genius creations, but whatever. They aren't as talented as Kirk, Eddie or Satriani in the guitar aspects, and they'd fail against Neil with their drums, but whatever. I'm not trying to defend them I just think it's pretty stupid that people look at music news to insult a particular band rather than reading the actual news.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 10:35 pm / quote |
Nirvana_rocks73
: whatever his Guitar skills arent great and his vocals arent close to as good as Kurt Cobain or Anthony Kiedis so maybe the band overall just isnt that good! American Idiot sucks. Dookie was a million times better.POSTED: 07/26/2005 - 11:31 pm / quote |
Peterjs
: How I miss the old Green Day... ... ...POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 12:41 am / quote |
Ambulance X
: Green Day and MTV sucks. It's just science . If you want good music television, Fuse is the way to go. At least they don't rape videos with constant airplay and have a varying line-up of videos.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 01:46 am / quote |
GodSorrow
: people should quit talking shit about green day. especially the people that say all they do is power chords. look at any band thats going somewhere in thier career right now. yep. they incorporate POWER CHORDS. warp tour bands=tons of power chords. ozzfest bands=tons of power chords taste of chaos bands=tons of power chords. it seems like music most people wanna hear involve a great deal of power chords. its a great way to play music. look at the days green day is in people. now a days, no one wants to go to a show and wave lighters listening to stairway to heaven or any light slow shit. they want to move around...listen to sumthing with...power. and, just for a lot of peoples info, green day plays more than power chords in about 90% of all thier songs. if people that talked shit about green day actually knew anything about green day, they would understand this concept.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 01:48 am / quote |
davidgilmour
: green day sucks power chord extravaganza=millions$POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 02:26 am / quote |
Punkrockguy17
: First off I'd like to say that Green Day has not sold out. The definition of a sell out is pretty much doing something that you do not want to do for more money. But Green Day seem to be loving what they are doing. They are still around after all these years after all! You can't blame them. They grow older, they mature, things change. Get over the fact that they can decide to change their music cause it's their band and they do what they want, not want anyone else wants them to do. Really whats more punk rock, playing the same music for 16 years or playing the same music but changing up some and adding something new that you enjoy? Billie Joe was prob being sarcastic on that comment about Jimmy Page. Then again you know people are different! Not everyone is the same. Maybe Billie Joe has an easier time doing solos than punk rhythm, you know? Remember people are different, one person may find solos easy but rhythm hard the other may not. It all depends on the person and what their style of playing is. Plus all music is an artistic statement and there is not wrong way of doing art. It's up to the artist to decide how to express himself through art, and if Billie Joe decides, "Hey! I want to be political today" then hey it's his choice no one elses. As they did say in the school of rock, "One great rock show can change the world." Or even look at Bill and Ted. And I think it would be the world to any musician around to be able to change the world with their music. I have seen Green Day live before and I know to those kids that they pull up on stage that for those brief couple minutes on there that they (Green Day) just changed their world by showing a young street urchin or whoever it might be that they have the ability to be someone special. It was Green Days choice to do this because they want to give back to their audience un like most bands I have seen in concert. Back to the whole power chord statement that Green Day only uses powerchords. I think a lot of you here need to look past their singles and actually listen to the albums! There is more than just power chords. And actually take the time to analyze music. You might notice a whole lot more that just "powerchords" or to you music genius's here "Perfect fifths."POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 02:30 am / quote |
Punkrockguy17
: Also to Nirvana_rocks, Kurt Cobain and Billie Joe are two different people with two different directions of music. Each have their own talents. Also to whoever said that Green Day doesn't help out anyone. They have they performed at Live 8. As well I know that they actually have gone and asked for food donations before to help benefit those that hunger. Sasha Bonds, I respect that you like N Sync and all but they didn't do nearly as much as Green Day to succeed. All N Sync did was audition where Green Day was out on their own trying to make it in dirt poor conditions. I'm sure below poverty level too. I think everyone should just get over it. Green Day deserves it they worked hard. After all I don't see any of you being nominated for an VMAs. Get over you're jealousy that SOAD or whoever did not get 8 VMA's wahoo! No one really cares. Does anyone actually watch MTV here? Whatever I'm out.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 02:30 am / quote |
joesomebody101
: the new songs from green day suck, w/e happened to just wanting to rock and not going broadway. they ***ng let me down.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 02:56 am / quote |
uncontrollable1
: The new songs of Green Day are okay, I wouldn't go further than awesome though... American Idiot was really good but I really prefer Minority better. I'm pro-Green Day but I loved them more when they were old. I watch MTV because there's no other music channel in my country, the other one is a freakazoid place with a poser VJ with a fake british accent, I think she should burn in hell. But still MTV sux.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 03:55 am / quote |
punk_pwincess
: I'd just like to say something to all old-school Green Day fans:
If you guys dont like the new Green Day, then you're not real great fans. If you really are fans, you would like ALL their music. For those who love both old and new Green Day, you are TRUE fans because even if their music is sh*t, you still cheer them on with respect. Please, give Green Day the curtisy, and not critize them as they have leant a helping hand to all over the world with their talent. Im not saying you have to like Green Day, but please don't say anything negative about them. Thank you!POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 05:05 am / quote |
neocon58
: ^ hahaha, thanks for brigtening up my day. that was hilarious.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 05:15 am / quote |
azerty_66
: haha yes indeed, hilarious! POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 06:01 am / quote |
DaisyRockPink
: MTV2 in the UK is pretty good actually...but normal MTV sucks. I doubt Green Day will win many, if any of their catergories, have you seen who they're against? Commercial shit.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 06:42 am / quote |
jed_punk
: Green Day rocks ! i'm only 13 but i like all of their songs like Basket Case and others ! Green Day is a great Punk band no doubt about it .....POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 07:25 am / quote |
joser_untalan
: It's obvious that no on eunderstands that "American Idiot" is a Punk Rock Opera, nothing heard before. About a kid who hates life, goes out into the streets, see how bad it is, gets rejected by a chick he loves, then comes back. Hey, give the guys credit. I don't see us getting famous.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 07:26 am / quote |
BrianApocalypse
: ^ shut up you douche, you don't even know what punk rock is
Green Day suck because thye are trying to be what they aren't, and that is political activists. Green Day weren't around in the 90's to rock against Bush Senior, they were an escape fantasy for rejects and shit, and that is what they should be.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 07:39 am / quote |
dude101_101
: Hey You DONT talk about my friend that way. how rude. i know he doesnt deliver my drums. but you shouldnt treat jed_punk that way. gosh, dont your mom ever tell you that green day is awesome because i love their song always, first date, and the rock show! ugh whale. so what time you coming to my house on friday? you better bring the drums with you. dude schools gonna start soon.. damn.. anyways, shoot. ChristopherPOSTED: 07/27/2005 - 08:08 am / quote |
joser_untalan
: Sorry BrianApocalypse if I don't know what Punk Rock is. But I do know that Green Day ruled once upon a time just like every other band.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 08:14 am / quote |
joser_untalan
: You know...If UG users hate Green Day, why don't they just go public and say it instead of writing comments about them? It's not like the world is gonna read this.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 08:17 am / quote |
dude101_101
: sorry i apologize brianapocalypse for my friend. he talks black(a.k.a.) like martin luther king jr. but hes white. THATS RIGHT I SAID THE WORD! WHITE!!!POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 08:24 am / quote |
Flava_Craze
: im only 16 and iv recently become a green day fan. i loved the album american idiot, a great way to show their views on politics. i also love all their previous albums and personally, billie joe is the person whos i use to inspire me playin the guitar. iv seen him do great things with it though he choses not to. green day deserve every award they getPOSTED: 07/27/2005 - 08:55 am / quote |
Guitar_Phreak
: Green Days' Old School is so much better. Sure, There songs are easy to play but thew lyrics are good. I've tried to write songs and it's hard!POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 09:35 am / quote |
Adarsh
: dude101_101:
Hey You DONT talk about my friend that way. how rude. i know he doesnt deliver my drums. but you shouldnt treat jed_punk that way. gosh, dont your mom ever tell you that green day is awesome because i love their song always, first date, and the rock show! ugh whale. so what time you coming to my house on friday? you better bring the drums with you. dude schools gonna start soon.. damn.. anyways, shoot. Christopher
ummm.....always, first date and rockshow is blink 182.....POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 09:47 am / quote |
Adarsh
: anyways, who cares if Green Day are punk? the new album's not amazing, but still better than Simple Plan, Good Charlotte etc. (nothing against them) but it was still better than Shenanigans!
I live in Cyprus (don't balme u if u haven't heard of it) and over here the only album people seem to have heard of is American Idiot, which is kinda pissing.
u can split green day fans into 1.American Idiot fans 2. Rest of the Green Day fansPOSTED: 07/27/2005 - 09:50 am / quote |
Bam_HIM_Bassist
: I wonder if Sony are going to rigg it... seems like the thing they wud do...POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 09:57 am / quote |
crawlingfaster
: bryanm:
oh by the way, here's a quote from Billy Joe Armstrong taken out of Holiday 2004 edition (pg 86): "I think it's harder to play punk rock rhythm guitar than it is to copy Jimmy Page".
clearly PM'ed power chords > heartbreaker, right? |
haha yah i have that magazine and as soon as i read that i just started laughing. i doubt he could play anything other than powerchords, he doesnt even solo in the songs, all of the solos are played by that other guy that just hides in the background while billie joe plays his 3 chords over and over.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 01:15 pm / quote |
lessthanjeff420
: Crallingfaster, u obviously know nothing about green day and the fact that Billy Joe was playing guitar since he was like 10. so just becasue he plays punk music doesnt mean hes a retard on the guitar. thats one of the stupidest things i think ive read on UG. besides i read in your info that you like the clash, and rancid. what do you think they did.....wait play powerchords alot. so please save us from your idiocyPOSTED: 07/27/2005 - 06:33 pm / quote |
lessthanjeff420
: xchris78:
Old Green Day ruled now their sellouts. Just flat out punk sellouts. They used to be unique and sound awesome now they SUCK |
wait so you knew them before kerplunk? because after kerplunk was dookie and dookie was their "sellout" CD. o and everyone you ever have listened to on the radio is a sellout. so you dont like music then.....do youPOSTED: 07/27/2005 - 06:38 pm / quote |
The Mofaster
: Billy Joe is just another great example that you dont have to be a great guitar player to write good and catchy songs. I mean i may not be the biggest fan of Green Day or anything, but i do enjoy their music and I have seen this theory go on strong.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 09:27 pm / quote |
we_all_rock
: Billie Joe may not be a great guitarist but They are extremely good. And yes they play good live shit and thats what people want.Ive seen them b4 and mannnn.... 'The best concert i ever went to'.POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 10:39 pm / quote |
metaljunkie
: what i didnt like about green day was that at the london live8 concert (i think it was london) they played "we are the champions" and billie joe's vocals were aweful, it angered me, but then again no one can really do that song without being critisized on one thing or another...only Queen can do it....POSTED: 07/28/2005 - 11:09 am / quote |
southern_stylin
: 3 chords and the truth.
Just because they hand you an award it doesn't mean that it's worth anything, look where it's coming from. I wish I won an MTV award so that at the ceremony I could unzip, rub one out, jizz on it, say '*** you' to everybody in the crowd and be escorted out of the venue. That would be so fun.POSTED: 07/28/2005 - 03:30 pm / quote |
DEVILMAN 2012
: Green Gay Can Kiss Mtv's Ass For All i CarePOSTED: 07/28/2005 - 03:33 pm / quote |
DEVILMAN 2012
: GREEN GAY CAN GO FUCK EACH OTHER AND MTV CAN JOIN UMPOSTED: 07/28/2005 - 03:41 pm / quote |
southern_stylin
: Oh, and by the way..... What's up with the masscara these days? Is Billie Joe trying to appeal to a more homosexual audience? Before you jump to any conclusions, I am not a homophobe and I believe in equal rights and all but, what is with these gay dudes and their masscara? Is it like when people used to wear earrings in their right ear to signify their sexuality?POSTED: 07/28/2005 - 06:15 pm / quote |
StJimmy
: BrianApocalypse:
^ shut up you douche, you don't even know what punk rock is
Green Day suck because thye are trying to be what they aren't, and that is political activists. Green Day weren't around in the 90's to rock against Bush Senior, they were an escape fantasy for rejects and shit, and that is what they should be. |
Uh, don't teenagers usually not give a *** about the government? That's probably how they felt when they were younger in the 90's. Now that they're older, they're probably more aware and wanted to say something about Dubya. I'm just speculating here though...POSTED: 07/28/2005 - 07:42 pm / quote |
Robert_Terry
: well, i love green day, but tbh does why is anyone arguing about it from a muscial point of view? there purly about 'quality' of video's. so congratulations to sam bayer for his 8 nominations POSTED: 07/28/2005 - 07:52 pm / quote |
goku77
: Mtv2 at 10.00Pm on saturday dosent suckPOSTED: 07/28/2005 - 09:19 pm / quote |
GodSorrow
: ^agreeable. headbangers ball is the shitPOSTED: 07/29/2005 - 01:01 am / quote |
punk_pwincess
: DEVILMAN 2012 sucks
dont knock anythign better than you
you're just not worth it
by the way, GREEN DAY ROX!!! and if you dont like them, why are you taking up your time saying bullsh*t about them - case closedPOSTED: 07/29/2005 - 06:13 am / quote |
Wardster
: Green Day ***in rock and u metalheads are just freaks wearing u gay hoodies. in the mall i always see em and i cant stop laughing *** sake. Green Day are the most popular punk band since dookie and nothing can change that. i have liked evey last one of there album. green day make power chords sound so good. Metal heads go die and burn in hell.POSTED: 07/30/2005 - 07:52 am / quote |
GDMCRfan
: I hope they make a clean sweep and take home all 8POSTED: 07/30/2005 - 11:59 pm / quote |
goku77
: Im a metalhead, and Ill kick youre ass fagget wardster....You should make youre comments more targeted instead of atacking every metalhead on ug..POSTED: 07/31/2005 - 05:28 pm / quote |
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