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Guns N' Roses: 'Chinese Democracy' Certified Platinum In US

artist: guns n roses date: 02/10/2009 category: general music news
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Guns N' Roses: 'Chinese Democracy' Certified Platinum In US

Guns N' Roses' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years.

As previously reported, Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose broke his silence again, this time via an email interview with Billboard.com published on Friday (February 6). In the chat, Rose launched into tirades against his record label, his former bandmates in Guns and the rumors that have swirled around him during the decade and a half it took to complete and finally release the latest Guns album, "Chinese Democracy", this past November. The record's less-than-spectacular sales as a Best Buy exclusive have led industry analysts to ask whether the label was to blame or Rose himself for not doing any promotion or touring.

On his label, Interscope Records, Rose says bluntly that the band members "hate the record company," adding, "At least in regard to the U.S., for the most part I don't look at it like we have a record company I look at it for the most part like we have friendly but otherwise cutthroat loan sharks, and we were lucky to get what we got but feel we could have done more if they were at least, especially with some of their backgrounds, a bit more involved creatively. So . . . I have no sympathy for the record companies, based on our experiences in the U.S." He does, however, praise the international operation.

Rose claims that Interscope never submitted a marketing plan to him for the record, saying, "We feel that, unfortunately, we've never been really anything all that much more other than a 'throw it at the wall, see if it sticks, no real ground work, something to take advantage of, last quarter, cook the books, write-off, fuck this headache, hoping to get lucky 'scam."

The singer also shot down rumors that there are two more collections of material waiting in the wings, saying, "We'd like to get another album out at some point, but for now, our focus is on 'Chinese'." He also said the band is working on a video for the single "Better" but has no plans to tour.

Regarding the inevitable question of whether he would ever reunite with the original members of Guns N' Roses, Rose writes, "I could see doing a song or so on the side with Izzy (Stradlin, guitarist) or having him out (on tour) again," adding that he could possibly envision playing with bassist Duff McKagan as well. But when it comes to lead guitarist Slash, Rose's animosity shines through. He writes, "What's clear is that one of the two of us will die before a reunion and, however sad, ugly or unfortunate anyone views it, it is how it is."

Although Rose squarely blames Slash for the unspecified issues between them, Slash told The Pulse of Radio a while back why he would be open to a reunion. "It would be worth doing for the fans," he said. "The fans would be the greatest thing about it because I think they really deserve it I think they got the short end of the stick on the whole thing. But the hurdles that one would have to jump in order to make that happen are insurmountable, as far as I can say right at this moment. But I can't speak, you know, for the future to the point of going, 'It'll never happen,' 'cause I think I would sound sort of ignorant."

Aside from the Billboard interview and answering a number of fan questions at a Guns N' Roses message board, Axl Rose has done no promotion of any kind for "Chinese Democracy".

Slash, McKagan, Stradlin and representatives for Interscope Records have yet to comment on Rose's statements.

Thanks for the report to Blabbermouth.net.

POSTED: 02/10/2009 - 11:06 am
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gr1170 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 11:19 am / quote |
I really don't get why people are concerned about thsi record not making back the money. It will take a while but really...it's GNR. Give it some time and it will make back the money they spent. Plus as people realize that it is a good record and get over the fact that this is a new GNR, they will buy it.

I give it another 6 months or so, by then people will accept the fact that it is a new GNR and then AXL will tour and it will be awesome.

In regards to a reunion show or two with slash....idk, yes it would be awesome and as Slash said it would be good for the fans; but it would most likley be a Zeppelin thing and only a few rich and lucky people would get to see it. Get over it, old GNR is done. This is a new band, even if they got back together it would sound NOTHING like the old stuff. THat band is gone, this band is here now, accept it and listen to some sweet music.
     
Pumpkins4Life wrote on 02/10/2009 - 11:21 am / quote |
it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.
     
aaciseric wrote on 02/10/2009 - 11:39 am / quote |
I'd love to see Axl and Izzy working together again. Couldn't careless about a full reunion to be perfectly honest.
     
edbert wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:07 pm / quote |
I don't think I'd pay to see GnR unless Slash was involved, especially considering how bad their new stuff is, I'm glad I decided against buying Chinese Democracy. I don't dislike Axl, but I hate the fact that he is a dick to Slash and that they will probably never reunite with the original lineup.
     
radomu wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:13 pm / quote |
I'd love to see Axl and Slash working, but that's never gonna happen...

But I can't wait for Slash's solo album.
     
tomo542 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:14 pm / quote |
Axl rose has just taken up the stance of, "its not my fault, its everyone elses'".

more punk than rock really..
     
jmetalf wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:14 pm / quote |
Although I don't think any artist should complain about going platinum, especially with the music climate as it is right now, it really is disappointing that this album hasn't been better accepted since there actually are some pretty sweet songs on it.
     
sgtpepper321 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:21 pm / quote |
how does everything out of axl's mouth makes him seem like more of a jerk?

like even if the one at fault for the break up is slash, notice how slash says he doesn't wanna be to critical about the future because it would make him sound 'ignorant.'

well axl obviously doesn't have a problem looking ignorant, and seems to just make it worse all the time.
     
dannydesktop wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:23 pm / quote |
Strange, looking forward to the better video tho. Once you get passed the drama/bandname the album is pretty enjoyable.

Axl and Slash always send mixed signals when it comes to their relationship, they are probably gay together.
     
mitophin wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:28 pm / quote |
Chinese Democracy is the unwanted child of Guns N' Roses. I don't blame Axl or Slash for the breakup. GN'R was just so powerful that greed stepped in and destroyed them all. Chinese Democracy is an awesome album and people should just stop the rude comments and listen to it. No matter what GN'R (the original GN'R) will never come back.

I don't blame anyone so I won't deny myself of music I enjoy!
     
Revhain wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:31 pm / quote |
gr1170 wrote:

I really don't get why people are concerned about thsi record not making back the money. It will take a while but really...it's GNR. Give it some time and it will make back the money they spent. Plus as people realize that it is a good record and get over the fact that this is a new GNR, they will buy it.

I give it another 6 months or so, by then people will accept the fact that it is a new GNR and then AXL will tour and it will be awesome.

In regards to a reunion show or two with slash....idk, yes it would be awesome and as Slash said it would be good for the fans; but it would most likley be a Zeppelin thing and only a few rich and lucky people would get to see it. Get over it, old GNR is done. This is a new band, even if they got back together it would sound NOTHING like the old stuff. THat band is gone, this band is here now, accept it and listen to some sweet music.


its not just about making back what you spent though, to the record companies, its about profit.
     
MetalGear1786 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:44 pm / quote |
It went platinum no thanks to me, untill Slash is back Im not buying.
     
Restlesscow wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:49 pm / quote |
I've said it before, its an awesome album
Shame theres no news on a tour tho...
     
Inigo1 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:49 pm / quote |
I thought the album, as an album, kind of sucked (even though 3 songs stuck). It's far from a masterpiece, and they will never ever reah the same fame if they don't reunite (I think). And even if they do, Axl needs to be more open to the press, becourse right now it feels like they are killing his carrier. But then again, I could be wrong. Lets just hope for that reunion shall we?
     
Lord Bonney wrote on 02/10/2009 - 12:57 pm / quote |
MetalGear1786 wrote:

It went platinum no thanks to me, untill Slash is back Im not buying.


Why would you be so narrow minded? Just treat it as though its not GnR, but any other band, and its a great record. Not the same as old GnR, but its not meant to be, you need to open up your musical tastes a bit more me thinks...
     
Rtard_GWARRIOR wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:01 pm / quote |
I bought it because it came with two G'N'R beer coasters. and it was $12.99
     
MrGuitarGuy01 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:08 pm / quote |
I dont care about the album, like metalgear1786 said, if slash isnt in it, im not buying, but i cant get over the fact of how much of a dick Axl is, he says he can see himself doing something with practically all the orignal GnR members but slash, what in the hell did slash do to him? Axl's the one that always walked off stage; and oh look, its not Axl;s fault the album didnt do better in the US, typical excuse for Axl, "its someone elses fault, not mine"
     
EEE_ELLL_OHH wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:10 pm / quote |
Pumpkins4Life wrote:

it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.


People are ALWAYS trying to maker crappy excuses against this album!

MetalGear1786 wrote:

It went platinum no thanks to me, untill Slash is back Im not buying.


Why? That's a pathetic excuse.

But yeah, this is great.
     
randymeeks81 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:15 pm / quote |
aaciseric wrote:

I'd love to see Axl and Izzy working together again. Couldn't careless about a full reunion to be perfectly honest.


yeah, those two could write together. i think axl gets the short end of the stick on his public image. being the singer in a band is just like the job everyone has, you have a boss (manager, producer, record label), co-workers (bandmates, roadies), and even customers (fans). it's a lot more complicated than "make a record, sell a record, make lots of money". so good for axl, that's a million copies sold, if you don't like his album, he might shed a tear, but he's crying all the way to the bank.
     
Pumpkins4Life wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
EEE_ELLL_OHH :
Pumpkins4Life wrote:

it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.

People are ALWAYS trying to maker crappy excuses against this album!


not making any excuses, thats how the best buy exclusive deal worked. it was pretty much platinum before it was even released
     
MasterExploder0 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 01:50 pm / quote |
Lmao how did this piece o shit go platinum? The last time I went to Best Buy there were like 100 or so copies just sitting on the shelves. I don't think Slash even cares since it was a such a shitty album.
     
ultimate-slash wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:07 pm / quote |
I'm a big gn'r fan myself, off old and new gn'r (not that I compare them as two bands, it's the same band with the same singer/songwriter, who to me is one of the greatest composers in modern music) off course I think slash is awesome, but I have to admit, the greatest things he accomplished were some solo's which are just epic, axl on the other hand wrote lyrics that could piss and entire country off(he got the ****ing album banned from the whole of china)and he wrote songs like november rain (off which no one can deny that it is one of the greatest songs off all time) to me guns n roses is the same band, with just a new direction of music and a new album, and if people would actually take the trouble of seriously listening to it, without having this picture in their mind like: 'new gn'r bad, old gn'r good' they would actually see that it's one incredible album, and that it's still has something in it that makes it really guns n ****ing roses, even though it's taken another direction
     
ultimate-slash wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:08 pm / quote |

lol, and that's coming from a guy who has slash in his UG-name XD
     
Metallicam wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:09 pm / quote |
gr1170 wrote:

I really don't get why people are concerned about thsi record not making back the money. It will take a while but really...it's GNR. Give it some time and it will make back the money they spent. Plus as people realize that it is a good record and get over the fact that this is a new GNR, they will buy it.

I give it another 6 months or so, by then people will accept the fact that it is a new GNR and then AXL will tour and it will be awesome.

In regards to a reunion show or two with slash....idk, yes it would be awesome and as Slash said it would be good for the fans; but it would most likley be a Zeppelin thing and only a few rich and lucky people would get to see it. Get over it, old GNR is done. This is a new band, even if they got back together it would sound NOTHING like the old stuff. THat band is gone, this band is here now, accept it and listen to some sweet music.


This exactly.

I love how the article is made to sound like Slash is actually open to a reunion. He says the exact same thing Axl said. It ain't going to happen. Axl is just more honest about it. He's probably sick and tired of hearing every prick ask him about Slash.
     
rickguitarguy86 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:20 pm / quote |
slash's solo album will be way better than chinese democracy. i hope someday there can be a reunion though.
     
rip3149 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:28 pm / quote |
here's the really sad part about all this.

walk into any best buy's cd section and you'll see between 10 and 20 BOXES FULL OF THIS DISC. in addition, almost an entire 4 foot section is taken up by copies out of the boxes.....how many of that 1 milion copies "shipped" were actually sold?
     
SurfinWithSatch wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:39 pm / quote |
Great another Gn'R article that is just gonna turn into an "Axl sucks, Slash is the greatest musician ever" fest. Is anyone else tired of this?
As for my view? I'd rather see Axl and Izzy make an album together more than seeing Axl and Slash make one.

And now I await a bunch of childish morons to quote my message, give me a load of abuse saying I hate Slash because of it and proclaim that Slash is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel.
     
Absent Mind wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:45 pm / quote |
Holy $hit people actual bought this?!?
     
Shakalum wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:56 pm / quote |
Absent Mind wrote:

Holy $hit people actual bought this?!?


ha. for realllll.
     
Joe4/4/1992 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 02:56 pm / quote |
i listened to Chinese Democracy without comparing it to the original line-up of Guns N Roses or having any pre-concieved notion of it as an 'Axl Solo Album' and i just couldnt get into it, some songs i quite liked, the title track and Shacklers Revenge were pretty cool but i dont think i'v listened to it enough for any other songs to sink in, some parts of some songs were canny cool though
shame to see Axl mouthing off but to be fair there was hadly any promotion for this album
anyway thats my pointless contribution
     
Axl_Explosion wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:04 pm / quote |
SurfinWithSatch wrote:

Great another Gn'R article that is just gonna turn into an "Axl sucks, Slash is the greatest musician ever" fest. Is anyone else tired of this?
As for my view? I'd rather see Axl and Izzy make an album together more than seeing Axl and Slash make one.

And now I await a bunch of childish morons to quote my message, give me a load of abuse saying I hate Slash because of it and proclaim that Slash is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel.


Cheers, dude. I agree. It just kills me that VR has had their Libertad out for a few years now and has it even moved 500,000 copies? ChiDem has been out now for 4 months and it's already platinum. I mean, Slash is amazing, don't get me wrong, but Guns would be more than ample for a reunion if they got Duff and Izzy back on the stage.
     
Franknroses wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:08 pm / quote |
I personally don't like chinese democracy, it's hard to see it as a guns n' roses album.....and i'd like to see not only axel and slash together but the whole band that was guns n' roses, steven + izzy + slash + duff + axel = Guns n' Roses.
     
LocalDealer14 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:09 pm / quote |
SurfinWithSatch wrote:

Great another Gn'R article that is just gonna turn into an "Axl sucks, Slash is the greatest musician ever" fest. Is anyone else tired of this?
As for my view? I'd rather see Axl and Izzy make an album together more than seeing Axl and Slash make one.

And now I await a bunch of childish morons to quote my message, give me a load of abuse saying I hate Slash because of it and proclaim that Slash is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel.


i agree
     
slayer_rule_\m/ wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:11 pm / quote |
2 million people dissapointed.

i havn't actually heard CD
     
stopshank wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:15 pm / quote |
ultimate-slash wrote:

I'm a big gn'r fan myself, off old and new gn'r (not that I compare them as two bands, it's the same band with the same singer/songwriter, who to me is one of the greatest composers in modern music) off course I think slash is awesome, but I have to admit, the greatest things he accomplished were some solo's which are just epic, axl on the other hand wrote lyrics that could piss and entire country off(he got the ****ing album banned from the whole of china)and he wrote songs like november rain (off which no one can deny that it is one of the greatest songs off all time) to me guns n roses is the same band, with just a new direction of music and a new album, and if people would actually take the trouble of seriously listening to it, without having this picture in their mind like: 'new gn'r bad, old gn'r good' they would actually see that it's one incredible album, and that it's still has something in it that makes it really guns n ****ing roses, even though it's taken another direction
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about, except that only 1 origional copie of any cd is sold in China. This is then pirated a zillion times and sold back to the rest of the world for pennies. So I doubt Axl would lose much sleep/money over that one.
I think Axl is great and Slash likewise but the two have moved on and apart. Get over it. Reading some of these comments is like listening to a bunch of five year olds squabbling at school. " I don't like you any more cos you don't like my friend"
Grow up FFS!
     
HavokStrife wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:15 pm / quote |
Ok... so... they sold 537,000 copies..

But, "they sold in excess of one million copies."

They ****ing went gold, wow. More like fool's gold. It's like my old singer leaving the band and thinking he's gunna go make better music and the guy can't even fret a guitar.

People who like this Nickelback wannabe bullshit are just retarded. Retarded.
     
Zagalote wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:19 pm / quote |
Axl is a dick, Slash is great. Its Axl´s fault. Have you been there? Were you part of GNR in the 80s and early 90s. What i hear every ****in year, is Slash in talk shows and internet videos sayn Axl blew it, this and that. Axl only talked about Slash NOW, but Slash has been talkin bout Axl every year. Peace
     
lul wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:31 pm / quote |
Pumpkins4Life wrote:

it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.
hard..
     
WheredMyRockGo? wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:39 pm / quote |
edbert wrote:

I don't think I'd pay to see GnR unless Slash was involved, especially considering how bad their new stuff is, I'm glad I decided against buying Chinese Democracy. I don't dislike Axl, but I hate the fact that he is a dick to Slash and that they will probably never reunite with the original lineup.


Not really sure how you can say this album is bad. If you're saying that it's not like old GNR and you're pissed off about that then thats one thing. I think the album has amazing guitar solos, great songwriting and every song on the album is completely different. To say this is a bad album is ignorant.

On a side note, as big of a slash fan as I am, there wouldnt be a slash without an axl rose. Thats just the way it is.
     
David_Bowie=GOD wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:40 pm / quote |
1 million down, only 15 more to go till axl makes the money he lost back.
     
stratele wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:47 pm / quote |
wow really

when zavvi closed down and there was like no CD's left, there were about 10 of these still sitting there.
     
ILIKEMUSICALOT wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:50 pm / quote |
The only new song I've heard by them was the one off Rock Band 2 and I've got to say it is the most terrible song by them yet. It doesn't sound like GNR. It sounds like GAY.
     
ReeseKillsHIV wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:54 pm / quote |
I like how cool Slash is about the idea of a reunion, and Rose is a giant douche-monger.

How surprising, I know.
     
cnc4c34 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 03:56 pm / quote |
It don't really matter, you're gonna find out for yourself. LOL, I think it's a great CD but each to his own.
     
b-rock34 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:04 pm / quote |
Oh, look! It's a huge success afterall! Oh, what's that you say? They still have to sell almost 4 million more copies just to break even! Yikes! Good luck!
     
Silas S Thompso wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:21 pm / quote |
I took this long for it to go platinum
     
guitaringnathan wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:22 pm / quote |
slash is open to a reunion cause he knows he cant make anything good with axl
     
guitaringnathan wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:23 pm / quote |
guitaringnathan wrote:

slash is open to a reunion cause he knows he cant make anything good with axl


*without axl...sorry that would have had a mixed up meaning
     
Runner Tagger wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:31 pm / quote |
i have to say, it may not be the original gun's, but its pretty good. not the best, but up there. Would be nice if they got izzy and duff for one tour though...
     
metalscott76 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:34 pm / quote |
how?
     
jordystings wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:42 pm / quote |
To be honest i think that the new album is awsome. Especially (This i like) i love that song.
As for the band reforming i honestly dont care. I admit it would be cool to see them around like they used to be. But i also think that the new sound they got is working for them. Its just abit of musical Evolution.
     
Feel bad inc. wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:43 pm / quote |
I dont know why people blame axl fully for the falling out between him and slash. I think after the whole Velvet Revolver thing with Scott we saw how pathetic slash was by giving Scott the 'silent treatment' and then dishing out on him in the media.
     
guns-o wrote on 02/10/2009 - 04:57 pm / quote |
To hell with lead singers! Axl and Weiland head first. It´s all about the guitar players,´cause we rule! get Slash and Izzy together, and let him and Duff sing. Besides, who cares about the lyrics anyway... Give me guitar, give me bass and give me drums and i´ll give you rock ´n ´roll, the rest is just accessory crap.
     
Tumble-weed wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:09 pm / quote |
Get over it Axl. Your album sucks and wasn't at all worth the wait.
     
dgme92 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:09 pm / quote |
I hate reading these comments on old or new GnR. It's pathetic watching people argue over something so insignificant. One user even went so far as to say they wouldn't buy Chinese Democracy until Slash is back in the band. Honestly people, grow up. It's their fight, not yours.

And on topic, Chinese Democracy, great album, glad to see it's selling well. I bought mine on the day of release.
     
Wolfinator-x wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:18 pm / quote |
It would be the greatest thing to happen in GNR history for a reunion with the original crew.
     
TheSilverBeatle wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:24 pm / quote |
Pumpkins4Life wrote:

it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.


Well if you look at life outside the U.S. they've already sold over 2.5 million worldwide.
     
Smithsc wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:38 pm / quote |
Too bad Guns n Roses died when Slash, Duff, and Izzy left. not really a G n R album in my book.
     
guitaringnathan wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:56 pm / quote |
oh and sorry for the extra post but why does everyone blame axl for the breakup. idk if you guys remember or not but everyone in the band was addicted to somethin except for axl. he probably took the band name and rights of it from the rest of the band because he didnt want his band to fall to shreds.

just a thought
     
AXE187 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:57 pm / quote |
buckethead ripped some AMAZING solos on this album.
who cares about slash.. just kick beetlejuice, or whatever his lame name is, and get buckethead back
     
November_Rain94 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Izzy Duff and Adler have no problems performing with Axl the real problem is between Slash and Axl Rose. If those to ever worked out there problems (God willing) GNR could reunite. I don't see that happening though as much as i want to Slash and Axl are to full of pride to work out thier differences and reunite the REAL Guns N' Roses.
     
AXE187 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 06:17 pm / quote |
buckethead ripped some AMAZING solos on this album.
who cares about slash.. just kick beetlejuice, or whatever his lame name is, and get buckethead back
rickguitarguy86 wrote:

slash's solo album will be way better than chinese democracy. i hope someday there can be a reunion though.


you sir are in need of mental help.

slash is a pretty good blues/rock guitarist.
every now and then he makes an ok riff, but his slow bend solos are what really makes him sound like him.
That being said, Axl is a one off, truly AMAZING singer. He is up there with the greats like Freddie Mercury. Slash just wears a sweet top hat
     
coheed713 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 06:29 pm / quote |
Screw Axl. When Velvet Revolver gets a new singer and records an album I'll buy that. Velvet Revolver is Guns N Roses without Axl for the better.
     
Zero_Mike wrote on 02/10/2009 - 06:33 pm / quote |
Axl is a such a jerk. No wonder the record company doesn't do much for you if you look at them that way.

I like how Axl blames any and everyone else for what's going on, come on man...
     
squallerrleon wrote on 02/10/2009 - 06:43 pm / quote |
those numbers are wack. a million or half a million? Did each Best Buy end up with a thousand copies then?
     
Aftertime wrote on 02/10/2009 - 06:43 pm / quote |
feels like they've never should've released the album :\
should've just ditched it and made it so it "could've been the most amazing album ever". and not just a 16year wait and disappointment. but we all expected it anyway..
     
JohnnyCapo.lp wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:13 pm / quote |
THIS IS THE WORST ALBUM TO COME OUT OF GEFFEN UNDER THE NAME OF GUNS AND ROSES!!!!!

honestly they should have never released the album !
     
skagitup wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:14 pm / quote |
the album's not bad but "Better" is incredible worth a 16 year wait. say what you like about axl, he sure can write a catchy melody.
     
David_Bowie=GOD wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:26 pm / quote |
skagitup wrote:

the album's not bad but "Better" is incredible worth a 16 year wait. say what you like about axl, he sure can write a catchy melody.


most artists can write a catchy melody and not take 16 years to release it though.
     
David_Bowie=GOD wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:30 pm / quote |
rip3149 wrote:

here's the really sad part about all this.

walk into any best buy's cd section and you'll see between 10 and 20 BOXES FULL OF THIS DISC. in addition, almost an entire 4 foot section is taken up by copies out of the boxes.....how many of that 1 milion copies "shipped" were actually sold?


this is why i hate it when companies talk about how much theyve shipped. that doesn't mean how much was bought, id say probably only 2/3 at the most of whats been shipped has been sold.
     
nonamesleftWTF wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:39 pm / quote |
I'm probably the biggest GnR fan ever. However, every day that goes by I think I lose more and more respect for Axl. I've always hoped for one last reunion concert. I was too young to go to their concerts when they were together...And the way Axl just shoots that shit out of the water just boils my blood. >
     
ringo23rsr wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:52 pm / quote |
it would be awesome if slash came out with his solo album and it sold more copies in the first week or month than gnr's chinese democracy haha just saying
     
christianrokr25 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 07:57 pm / quote |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siBoLc9vxac

ahhh takes me back
     
Smokey Amp wrote on 02/10/2009 - 08:32 pm / quote |
Chinese Democracy is a good album. People should stop making assumptions about it and actually listen to it.
     
MuffinMan wrote on 02/10/2009 - 08:57 pm / quote |
"Guns N' Roses: 'Chinese Democracy' Certified Platinum In US"

"The record's less-than-spectacular sales as a Best Buy exclusive have led industry analysts to ask whether the label was to blame or Rose himself for not doing any promotion or touring."

wat
     
josh.more wrote on 02/10/2009 - 09:22 pm / quote |
MuffinMan wrote:

"Guns N' Roses: 'Chinese Democracy' Certified Platinum In US"

"The record's less-than-spectacular sales as a Best Buy exclusive have led industry analysts to ask whether the label was to blame or Rose himself for not doing any promotion or touring."

wat


you can say this tho, 250 million people in the states, just over a million copies sold, im seeing a percentage gap here xD
     
sticknick wrote on 02/10/2009 - 09:42 pm / quote |
AXE187 wrote:

buckethead ripped some AMAZING solos on this album.
who cares about slash.. just kick beetlejuice, or whatever his lame name is, and get buckethead back


Actually wait, I like Buckethead on his own.

Still, Bucketheads solos are the only good thing on the album.
     
Tanooki wrote on 02/10/2009 - 09:48 pm / quote |
Holy shit, why is everyone so up their own ass about Slash and Axl? Neither one of them want to go back, yet you just think they should do it anyway. Have you ever been told to 'make up and deal' with some ****er that you hate? It's a terrible experience. If Slash and Axl don't want to fix shit, the don't make them
     
tomm35live wrote on 02/10/2009 - 09:59 pm / quote |
Like someone said earlier, i'd be way more interested in Izzy coming back to Axl, rather than Slash coming back.
Izzy for the win.
     
 aig91   m   wrote on 02/10/2009 - 10:05 pm / quote |
Checked
     
StereoFlare wrote on 02/10/2009 - 10:13 pm / quote |
Not bad, only took them 18 years.
     
RGshred88 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 10:21 pm / quote |
[quote]sgtpepper321 :
how does everything out of axl's mouth makes him seem like more of a jerk?

like even if the one at fault for the break up is slash, notice how slash says he doesn't wanna be to critical about the future because it would make him sound 'ignorant.'

well axl obviously doesn't have a problem looking ignorant, and seems to just make it worse all the time./quote]

100% agreed
     
ma_tt11 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 10:31 pm / quote |
Slash is by far the more level-headed of the two.
     
AXE187 wrote on 02/10/2009 - 10:59 pm / quote |
I simply cannot understand how you people can deny how awesome a singer axl is.

his work on this album is kick ass
     
reignofrock wrote on 02/10/2009 - 11:44 pm / quote |
I think they need to stop talking about this album... it's overblown and it really doesn't deserve this much coverage. The media should think twice about covering old stories, and just focusing on up and coming bands, not dead icons who have lost everything that made them original. Let the classics stay classic, and not convert to new dated crap.
     
godoggies wrote on 02/11/2009 - 12:12 am / quote |
G'N'R are nothing without SLASH,DUFF,and IZZY.its just AXL with a bunch of randoms
     
Deadwrong wrote on 02/11/2009 - 12:49 am / quote |
This has got to be the biggest scam in history... I am going to make one really good album i mean it's is going to blow everyone's socks off. Then i am going to say i am going to wait about 15 or some odd numbers years to pump out a new one. SO everyone just buys it and says "OMG NEW ALBUM 15 YEars late". Then people will get angry when they get home and listen. Well at least it fooled me.
     
Force Reaver wrote on 02/11/2009 - 01:24 am / quote |
OK everyone says just imagine it isnt guns and roses and listening to and the album gets 10 times better. See I thought the band was called G n'R for a reason! To me the new album sucked hard. I mean sure it was ok and there are some good songs on it, but waiting 10+ years for this shit? come on! If anything it should have been released with like 4 discs of songs to compensate me for all the time I was waiting. Axl even said himself while making it that it was taking so long because.... " You cant rush perfection." this album is so far from perfection its not even funny. And to everyone who says this is the new GnR and the old GnR is never coming back. Well I say Fuck that!!! You cant be the only member left of your band and think you can drag on with the same name. Velvet Revolver's first album "Contraband" kicked ass and went plat. as well plus won a Grammy. The only real reason Chinese Democracy even went plat. is because best buy had to buy so many damn copies to get it as an exclusive. You wanna know why your album isnt selling axl? 1. It sucks 2. You only have one store selling the damn thing 3. It took over ten years to get the damn thing out and no one gives a **** anymore. Im sorry axl but the only things you will be remembered for is being the biggest douche bag in rock history and beating up Tommy Hilfiger.
     
colbym91 wrote on 02/11/2009 - 01:37 am / quote |
lol, that pile of shit went platinum, its not even G n'R, for ****s sake, its Axl Rose trying to re-live what he screwed himself out of by being such a prick.
     
wicked_hobbit wrote on 02/11/2009 - 07:24 am / quote |
I got over the fact that it's NOT by any chance Guns N Roses (won't personally deem them "New" GNR) and that it took forever to see the light of day. Eventually I could see that it's a great album nonetheless
     
nalanarof wrote on 02/11/2009 - 07:28 am / quote |
Ok. I think the album should have been released under Axl Rose's name. To be fair to the other members, Guns N' Roses should have ended when they broke up. Yes this album does have excellent song writing and huge talent and work went into this but the name Guns N' Roses should have kept for if they ever reformed properly.
     
nalanarof wrote on 02/11/2009 - 07:32 am / quote |
Also, is it just me or is Axl looking a lot like Dog the bounty hunter? lol
     
311stylee wrote on 02/11/2009 - 08:15 am / quote |
How many people release a new album and don't tour for it? The record company can't MAKE you tour Axl.
     
gorkyporky wrote on 02/11/2009 - 08:59 am / quote |
i think axl is a just a big ass. I mean, he actualy managed to releas an album after 15 years, and now he isnt even gonna tour for it? what the hell? In my opinion hes the biggest ******* in the music industry.
     
DeathAndMyDecay wrote on 02/11/2009 - 09:28 am / quote |
tomo542 wrote:

Axl rose has just taken up the stance of, "its not my fault, its everyone elses'".

more punk than rock really..


You mean more ******* than rock lol
I hate Axl's attitude.
As much as I love Metallica...I can't stand Lars Ulrich's attitude at times. Same goes for Axl
     
This1GoesTo11 wrote on 02/11/2009 - 09:42 am / quote |
Whether or not Chinese Democracy is a "true" GN'R record, it's still a great piece of work. I think it will stand the test of time. . .and that's all that really matters. We'll all be dead, and some kid will be listening to it in his room, enjoying the hell out of it - without all the fuss.
     
nalanarof wrote on 02/11/2009 - 09:47 am / quote |
This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Whether or not Chinese Democracy is a "true" GN'R record, it's still a great piece of work. I think it will stand the test of time. . .and that's all that really matters. We'll all be dead, and some kid will be listening to it in his room, enjoying the hell out of it - without all the fuss.


lol
     
Guns-N-Roses94 wrote on 02/11/2009 - 10:13 am / quote |
axl is great... od course he is a dick to Slash, but this album is a masterpiece. I also first thought it was shit, but listening some songs more often made me liking it, so i bought. It's ****ing great !
     
nalanarof wrote on 02/11/2009 - 10:18 am / quote |
Guns-N-Roses94 wrote:

axl is great... od course he is a dick to Slash, but this album is a masterpiece. I also first thought it was shit, but listening some songs more often made me liking it, so i bought. It's ****ing great !


Why should he be a dick to him?! What did Slash do wrong?
     
crazyj wrote on 02/11/2009 - 10:53 am / quote |
To be truthful I have not listened to the entire album. The only song I heard sounded like a remix of the 90210 theme. I though it was a decent song. I still feel this album should of been released under the Axl Rose banner and not GNR. I don't know how someone can sit there and still call them GNR when there is only one original member in the band. Its like Paul McCartney releasing an album and calling it a Beatles album or Jimi Page touring without Robert plant and calling it a Led Zeppelin tour(whole other topic there i guess). I can't really say if this album is good or not cause I haven't listened to it. Axl should place them blame on himself and the band and not on the record company for this album being a lackluster release. Guy should of toured or did some promotion work to help boost record sales. I really believe this album sold because of people wanted to see if the 15 year wait was worth it. I didn't bother to waste my money on it.
     
dylanfg wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:11 am / quote |
well i think its a great album but u cant take it as gnr even if it says it otherwise ul be disappointed with it soundin nothing like em but w/e its what axl wants to do so people should let him
     
perilouspete wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:13 am / quote |
Pumpkins4Life wrote:

it only went platinum because best buy agreed to purchase 1.3 million copies that were non-refundable.


exactly. it says right in the article that they've only "shifted" a little over a half-million copies, meaning they've actually only sold that many to the public. so it's really no big deal at all that it went platinum, that's deceiving.
     
wicked_hobbit wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:17 am / quote |
"We'd like to get another album out at some point, but for now, our focus is on 'Chinese'"

It's been your focus for over a decade Mr. Rose
     
pirate 667 wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:33 am / quote |
i gave up on this album a long time ago. now you can't even get me to give it the time of day. it might be a great album it might not, point is i'll never know and never really care. the first gnr album was the best anyway everything else was just crap
     
srvrocks wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:37 am / quote |
Black Ice", which is exclusively available via Wal-Mart, Sam's Club and AC/DC's web site, was down 65% over its debut total, according to Billboard.com. The album has sold more than 1 million units in two weeks.

AC/DC sold over 1 million in two weeks lol.
Chinese Democracy just isn't what it was made up to be.
     
Kastöm wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:46 am / quote |
Why does Axl Rose always have to come off as such a grade A prick?
     
pattslash wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:58 am / quote |
Kastöm :
Why does Axl Rose always have to come off as such a grade A prick?


it pisses me off to say the least.
     
pattslash wrote on 02/11/2009 - 11:58 am / quote |
Kastöm :
Why does Axl Rose always have to come off as such a grade A prick?


it pisses me off to say the least.
     
killing_inc wrote on 02/11/2009 - 12:16 pm / quote |
For one, good thing the album went platinum, whether you like it or not, it's a good rock album, whether it deserves the Gn'R name is up to you, I enjoyed it... and anyone who really knows about Gn'R, would know that Izzy's return would sound more like the old days than Slash's, after all, Izzy wrote most of the hits you remember.
     
duzit89 wrote on 02/27/2009 - 02:53 am / quote |
izzy + axl = ..this cud be something good
     
bbbbrooks1 wrote on 03/06/2009 - 10:24 pm / quote |
the albums low record sales don't suprise me at alll....i think appetite was out for 2 years or somthing like that before it sold
     
that dude guy wrote on 03/07/2009 - 07:11 pm / quote |
Slash and Izzy made all his old music sept welcome to the jungle and maybe yesterdays.Thats why there new music does not stand a chance. PS axls music on this albem was probably messed with in the recording studeo and hes voice has lowerd.....alout.
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