Metallica fans may run to the hills after they hear the bold declaration made by Iron Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson. Speaking with Metal Hammer magazine, the erstwhile Astraeus airline pilot stood behind a recent boast that his band was better than a certain Big Four headliner.
"You've just got to have a sense of fearlessness," Dickinson said. "I got into trouble for saying that we're better than Metallica… and, it's true! They might be bigger than us and they might sell more tickets than us and they might get more gold-plated middle-class bourgeoisie turning up to their shows but they're not Maiden. I did say it's a bit of a wind-up. I thought, if I'm going to turn into an (expletive), I might as well, you know, go for it!"
Meanwhile, Iron Maiden released the “greatest hits” collection, From Fear to Eternity: The Best of 1990-2010, yesterday. A trailer for the two-disc set was posted online yesterday.
Its all about the publicity, Bruce is just a wind-bag. I don't think I'd prefer one to the other, they're just awesome in different ways... (btw, its not "Maiden's better", its "IMO... ect").
I just saw Maiden on May 28th, and they kicked ass live. Metallica has a lot of cool attitude that people identify with (and because of that, they want to imagine that their band is the best), but in the end Maiden puts out a higher quality product, musically as well as lyrically.
Haha, beautiful. I've always loved his forwardness. And I think Metallica will be the first ones to admit Maiden are the better band, although it would be nice to see a mutual respect, but whatever.
I was given "Number of the beast" on tape when I was a kid and I fell in love with Maiden it is still one of my fav albums. I didn't think I would ever hear anything better at the time, But then I was given AJFA... on tape and I fell in love with Metallica and have never looked back since. There's no accounting for taste eh!! Both bands are awsome, But i'm biased towards Metallica!
Maiden has released way more records that are all for the most part, consistently better. So I'll go ahead and say I agree with Bruce. Metallica are still a great band, and put on a great show, but now, thats about all they are, a live band.
Metal already gets enough shit thrown at it without the bands going at each other as well. I love Maiden and I love Metallica. Come on, Bruce, there's no reason for statements like this one.
I think that Metallica's good records (for example MOP) are the best metal tracks ever made: metallica's good music is better than Maiden's good music.
But metallica's bad music is also worse than maidens bad music ('bad' is not exactly the word i'm looking for, but you understand what i mean).
Metallica: best band ever -> not so good band
Maiden: constant great band (but never better than metallica was)
wich do you prefer?
also, someone stated that metallica has produced more shitty albums than good albums. Well, Maiden has produced more compilation/best of albums than normal albums
i used to think iron maiden where good until this statement. its bullshit. you cant write music and state its better than other peoples. this just shows they write for money not for themselves. a good band will write the music they want to write and if people like it.... then its a bonus!! shame dickinson hasnt got much of an imagination on how to sing! stop following the guitars you PRICK!
people always say that Metallica inspires more people to start playing, but Iron Maiden inspired Metallica to start playing, so can you really compare them? And Metallica has covered several Maiden songs, so it's not really up for debate...
Why would Dickinson say this????
I love them both, but I think Metallica was never afraid to reinvent themselvelves.
And though I like most of Maiden records they don't take a lot of risks in making them. Maybe that's something most of people love about the Irons.
But I personally prefer a band that isn't afraid to grow up and take they're chances.
For me, what makes every Metallica record unique is that they never gave a Fuck for what was expected from them.
But I wouldn't say there's a "better" band.
What we're forgetting here is that both of these bands kickass! They have both made their mark on the music industry. They both have influenced and still influence many to pick up an instrument and keep true metal alive in a world overrun with techno/emo/rap/country/pop b.s. LONG LIVE METAL!!!
Dick move by Bruce. Lars Ulrich has stated several times that Maiden is his biggest inspiration, he even said: "Iron Maiden is the blueprint for everything that we do." Yes, in my opinion, Maiden is better, but there's no need for Bruce to pick on his fans.
"They might be bigger than us and they might sell more tickets than us and they might get more gold-plated middle-class bourgeoisie turning up to their shows..."
k.
Metallica have done more for music and inspiring other to pick up instruments and start bands.
I try to stay out of these things but, well, your wrong. for a start it's not a fair comparison, Iron maiden had four albums under their belt and we're already an established touring act before metallica had a record. Maiden we're not only a big influence on Metallica themselves but on so many bands they practically invented the entire genre of power metal (which is to say, kai hansen loves 'em ) and were fore runners of NWOBH and of the most influential in the growth of heavy metal full stop.
I'm not saying there aren't as many bands on Metallica tributes but those bands are they're peers or newer band's who aren't as legendary (yet)
I think bruce's "statement" is crass, he should be more humble, it's up to the fans to decide but well...does anyone honestly think kirk hammet can play guitar better than adrian smith?
I still really love Metallica, and I have always personally thought that Maiden albums belong right next to the Metallica albums on the CD shelf, because the music is so similar.
But Bruce is right. Maiden's better. Power vocals man, power vocals..
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Am I the only person to realise he is taking the piss??
If I understand your silly British metaphor, I totally agree. Also, both bands have been hugely important in their respective eras of metal. They both win.
Haha cue the hoards of butt hurt 13 - 16 year old Metallica fan boys. This is gunna get messy. But I agree with Bruce.
15 year-old Metallica fan boy here!
And I completely agree with Bruce, Maiden IS better, although being, as one of the posters above me just said, a bit more humble about it would be better.
Too different music to be comparable. You can compare Metallica to other Thrash bands and Iron Maiden to other NWOBHM bands, but outside that box it's useless as it's all personal preference.
I like Metallica more but I really have to agree with Bruce. Metallica sold out and changed their sound a lot, while Maiden stayed true to the metal. Iron Maiden are better, but I like Metallica more. If that makes any sense
You just know UG posted this for the flame war :L i actually find it funny how defensive the maiden fans are getting :L
Chill i bet the guy loves metallica no need to post thousand of comments saying how shit metallica are
I like Metallica more than Maiden too,in fact they're my favourite band.I have to admit Maiden are better musically but no one can beat Metallica's solos
im not gonna lie, i say this to very few people but metallica r over rated. Megadeth own thrash metal, in fact, he has made metallica who they are today. And of course Maiden kick their asses any day...period.
I think that Metallica's good records (for example MOP) are the best metal tracks ever made: metallica's good music is better than Maiden's good music.
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son destroys MoP. I like MoP, but yeah.
What's up with the flame wars? Metallica would not excel at playing a Maiden-like song, but neither would Maiden on Trash-Metal or Metallica songs. There is a reason that its not one band called: Iron MetalMaidenica!
Can't we just agreed that everyone has a different opinion? I personally prefer Metallica, but I have the intelligence to accept that have the right to have a different opinion.
You all know hes right.. theyve put out good consistent music for the last 30+ years and havent sold out like metallica did in the 90's.. Musically speaking- Iron Maiden is far better.
i ****in* love metallica, but, embarrassingly enough, i dont know much about maiden. i really wouldnt even know where to begin. i do like "wrathchild," but i only know that from guitar hero...haha. wow.
How do you rate which band is better? Maiden was and still is huge, and highly influential on other bands, but the exact same could be said about Metallica.
I like both but I dont understand why Bruce has been calling Metallica out so much recently when Lars, James, and Kirk are all heavily influenced by maiden and are also longtime supporters. I dont know. Maiden is still the superior band but I mean it would just suck if my 2 favorite bands had a feud.
Though im more of a Metallica fan than a Maiden fan, my respect and love for Maiden just grew because of this. To come out with that takes great music and more importantly, huge balls.
I'm sure if you ask Hetfield whos better, he'll say Maiden. I'm pretty sure hes old band "Leather Charm" was a Maiden cover band, or atleast used to cover Maiden songs. And Metallica never needed to 'say' that they're better than *insert band*, they went ahead and proved it time and time again.
Not into Maiden but respect their musicality and influence on modern metal. But definitely lost some respect for Dickinson here. Didn't need to pick a bone with them. Metallica is their juniors after all.
Metallica have done more for music and inspiring other to pick up instruments and start bands.
Maybe they do these days, but it was Iron Maiden who encouraged bands like Metallica to pick up their instruments. On the whole, Maiden have easily done more for music and inspired more people.
obviously Maiden is better, they've had a way more consistent career imo, and they're heavy influences on Metallica. i don't know why Bruce is throwing this out there now though, kinda makes him look arrogant
Metallica sees Maiden as their influence, they even mentioned Maiden's name in Rock n roll hall of fame induction speech as their influence. again, Maiden is bigger, more wide-reaching (like in a 3rd world country i live in) and more popular than Metallica. but i think Bruce should hav been less arrogant and and should hav shown more respect to a band thats as successful as they r.
You're very right! otherwise he'd just be making a very big enemy right here, but he's just messing around it sounds like. Prepare, UG, a big flame war is about to arise! LMAO!
i used to think iron maiden where good until this statement. its bullshit. you cant write music and state its better than other peoples. this just shows they write for money not for themselves. a good band will write the music they want to write and if people like it.... then its a bonus!! shame dickinson hasnt got much of an imagination on how to sing! stop following the guitars you PRICK!
lol u jelly, u jelly
funny shit really. it works to talk crap about tallica, because they have in many ways deserved it. Maiden are just supreme musicians, band members and consistent song writers. They may well take the piss occasionally, but they've earned the right to. All of you ass burned little kiddies sticking up for your precious Metallica are just being huge hypocrites, and just got trolled. Hard.
Metal already gets enough shit thrown at it without the bands going at each other as well. I love Maiden and I love Metallica. Come on, Bruce, there's no reason for statements like this one.
honestly, bruce is right, metallica is way "bigger" in terms of money, but maiden has way more talent than metallica, just take a look at harris, and murray, theyre enough to "out-talent" metallica, anyways, both are good
"Better" is pretty subjective, seeing as you can't mathematically prove it. Maiden is probably the more skilled, respected band, but I personally like more Metallica stuff.
Its all about the publicity, Bruce is just a wind-bag. I don't think I'd prefer one to the other, they're just awesome in different ways... (btw, its not "Maiden's better", its "IMO... ect").
If you want to get super technical on the Internet where no one cares, then learn to know the difference between its and it's.
Musically, Iron Maiden is far better than Metallica! Metallica is great, but Bruce is completely right when he says that the fans at Metallica shows are posers.
This is like Van Gogh saying he's better than Rembrandt. Maiden and Metallica have very different styles, they're both giants in their own genre and I love them both.
At least Metallica aren't afraid to reinvent themselves and do what they want, unlike other bands who's releasing the same record over and over again for 30 years.
Ah come on people. He said it was a bit wind-up, as stated in the article and also someone else said it here. Who doesn't know this, wind-up is UK English slang for prank. So why you take it so seriously?
Now to join on that argument/sh!tstorm here.... Maiden became good and stayed good. Well, maybe Blaze wasn't the best fit for them when Bruce was away, but still, decent songs all the way. Maiden, Motrhead, Priest etc were the reason Metallica even started. And as top class thrash acts like Exodus etc still find touring or being warm-up for old bands and singers like Maiden, Dio, Sabbath, Priest etc kinda proves that those guys are still in the top and haven't disappeared. Like someone said before, you can compare them in their genre, but not overall. But in fact Bruce is right after all in this prank. Look at how many bands and people Maiden has inspired(including Metallica) and then look how many Metallica has inspired.... Maiden wins it any time. In my honest opinion, only person who kinda is fun to watch live on Metallica side is Rob and in the past Jason was the man; rest of Metallica is kinda boring. Then, on the other hand, it's fun to watch WHOLE Maiden, even Nicko if you could actually see him behind his kit. Again, that's my opinion. And someone saying Maiden is too repetative, well, yeah, in a way they are, but Metallica, especially Kirk isn't better either on that note. Kirk is kinda like Dave Murray on Maiden, so many random solos, but for me the difference is that Kirk actually has so damn similar licks in different songs. And he's the only one in Metallica who could do solos. Sorry fanboys. And on a sidenote, I once was a fan of Metallica, never a huge fan of Maiden but still Maiden is one of the best in the metal scene. Thanks for reading my troll here.
I love it how he lists all the reasons Maiden is not better!
More popular and better are two entirely different things.
Mac1315 wrote:
At least Metallica aren't afraid to reinvent themselves and do what they want, unlike other bands who's releasing the same record over and over again for 30 years.
True, but no matter how much they reinvent themselves, their music still isn't great. Maiden, although their style has remained largely the same, has release 15 albums different enough to remain interesting and varied all through their career.
Well, he's obviously half-joking, but I think he's half-serious, since usually when people joke about things, they use it as a way to unseriously express their actual feelings.
But if we're talking about virtuosity, neither band really has much of it, but although Metallica has tougher guitar work, Maiden might slightly take an edge, skill-wise, as a band as a whole.
Metallica may have "sold out" and changed their style, but even if they're trying to cater to potential fans, they've never been afraid to not do what was expected of them. Maiden defined a formula on their first album and have yet to really diverge from it. Also, Metallica have yet to release their first, let alone their fifth, compilation album. That's pretty much trying to cash in on things you've already done, which is fine, but not exactly pushing the envelope.
I personally like Metallica better. I like their material a lot more. James Hetfield's rhythm is legendary.
Lacebad wrote:
...Iron maiden practically invented the entire genre of power metal (which is to say, kai hansen loves 'em ) and were fore runners of NWOBH and of the most influential in the growth of heavy metal full stop.
To say that Iron Maiden invented anything is preposterous . They were, and still are, completely, in every way, a weak, watered down imitation of Judas Priest. Not to take anything away from them; I appreciate their existence, but they were hardly original, just like Metallica.
Sure man, just because more people like a band doesn't mean it's overrated....people just need a scapegoat, and metallica is an easy target, tbh. I bet half of the kids here who keep saying metallica sucks or they sold out or whatever secretly air guitar to enter sandman twice a day...Metallica are a brilliant band. Just because you like maiden or megadeth or whatever doesn't give you the right to diss Metallica. Kirk Hammett is my hero and I'm proud of it.
God, the songs on the trailer are all newer Maiden... personally, I don't like their 21st century albums, although I did think the last one was an improvement! I'd much rather see some Gangland, though, or Clairvoyant, or even Can I Play With Madness, Flight of Icarus!
A)When are you guys going to realize that metal is for 14 year olds. Particularly, the cheesiness of Maiden. B)Yes, Maiden inspired MetallicA but MOP, and AJFA stomp anything that Maiden has done hands down. Maiden is not as impactful or heavy. Maiden are brilliant musicians but I always feel like I do when I watch a stupid zombie. I like it, but all I really do is laugh at it.
NEITHER. Megadeth is far more superior, just not as popular as either band. 'tallica and Madien are good bands, but continue to record the same type of songs over-and-over... "E" "E" "E" "E" "Power-Chord" "E" "E" "E" etc...
5 years ago, about the time I made this username, I would've disagreed but well now, it's kinda true. Maiden never tried to appeal to a specific audience and they've always been metal.
But honestly, Metallica really try and play to how they feel and are not afraid to experiment where as Maiden stick to the same formula for every album, but do incorporate some really interesting techniques.
I prefer James as a singer.
Maiden wins at drums and guitars because Kirk knows one scale.
But, tbh, they tie for bassists because I think two insanely good bassists like Rob and Cliff equal Steve.
One more thing, Metallica have a very different set list each gig, besides the classics, but I can google maidens set list for a tour as they just play the same songs :/
I think that maiden has had FAR more influence over metal in general throughout their career, but I personally prefer Metallica...up until The Black Album
The ongoing battle between selling records and better skill. Who cares? Well I for one judge music by the emotion I get from it. If you don't feel some emotion from listening to music, (anger, happiness, sadness, etc..) then what is the point of listening?
NEITHER. Megadeth is far more superior, just not as popular as either band. 'tallica and Madien are good bands, but continue to record the same type of songs over-and-over... "E" "E" "E" "E" "Power-Chord" "E" "E" "E" etc...
Lol'd hard.
@Topic It's really ignorant state, telling that 'we are better than them'. Metallica always claims that Maiden are better than them, but telling that I am better than you is really pathetic.
I like Maiden more, but TBH I don't like Dickinson's vocals(love Di'Anno's vocals on Killers but Dickinson doesn't do it for me). And...Mustaine's the *******? This is the third time I've heard of Bruce doing this and I'm sure there's more. o_o
Thats nice... metallicas still better. and how is this news?
I can't help but think that if the article was about Hetfield or Hammett saying they were better than Metallica, you'd think this was news.
I don't think artists should be so bold as to actually come out and SAY they're better than someone else. It kind of makes them look like a dick.
In my opinion, Maiden is MILES above Metallica. Every aspect about their music is better in my eyes, or to my ears. I prefer Maiden's vocals, lyrics, lead playing, rhythm playing, bass, drums, etc.
It's all a matter of opinion. Of course Bruce is going to say Maiden is better than Metallica, it's his baby after all. I wouldn't doubt it if James said the same thing, except Metallica being better than Maiden. Personally, I prefer Metallica but they're both great bands none-the-less.
They are better than Metallica, for a number of reasons:
1) Consistency--Maiden has only really had two or three albums that just can't be listened to anymore (and two of them were with Blaze). More than half of Metallica's discography is just junk.
2) Talent--Maiden play their insruments with soul. One harmonized note played by Janick, Dave, and Adrian together is worth more than a thousand by Kirk Hammett. PLus, Harris and McBrain outweigh Lars and Trujillo/Newstead (not so much Burton) by a ton.
3)Attitude--Maiden has the better attitude towards being in a band. It ain't about the money or the amount of records you sell. Maiden do it for themselves and for the fans. Metallica bases their music off of that idea (at least after Master came out, and they're just jerks about it anyway.
So, that's my opinion. I like both bands, but Maiden is just better. I'm not hating on Metallica (I like their first couple works). Maiden clearly is the more listenable band--without them we wouldn't have all these fanboys defending Lars.
Iron Maiden nowadays are only good to do "greatest hits", the last CD is unlistenable. Bruce, don't say a word and start writing a decent album, please. Nobody needs your jokes to have all the spotlights.
heres some important facts to all you guitar players out there... 1. from the original iron maiden (without janick gers)... dave murray and adrian smith switched playing solo and rhythm... did kirk and james do that? 2. for the serious blues/rock guitarists out there.. kirk may add in SOME blues... but both dave and adrian have blues in everything... 3. dave murray may play smoother than adrian using legato and his super strong fingers.. but can kirk play smooth at all? 4. wheres james' solo? 5. jason/cliff doesnt compare at all to steve harris (innocent exile). 6. iron maiden has been around longer than metallica..
I will say that lars and nicko do play at the same level on drums...
in closing... i love both metallica and iron maiden.. but iron maiden beats them by far..
I think Iron Maiden has released a new 'Best of" every year for the last decade :S either way, if they're that great maybe they should get off their laurels
Metallica had the balls to change but then scurried like scared monkeys back to the tree. I think Death Magnetic is the most pathetic album yet. They did all this changing up and experimenting with Load and St. Anger (they both kinda sucked) and really giving the close minded "metal" world a shake up and then go right back to their old formula like dogs with tails between their legs.
But Metallica hasn't put out a good album since 1991...
Maiden has put out 3 great albums and 2 decent ones since then
(Oh, and 2 pretty bad ones.)
I should probably leave before I turn into one of those guys that think their opinion is fact, which it seems has already happened :x
I personally think Death Magnetic was an awesome album and that Iron Maiden's Final Frontier was not i own both of them and i was happy to hear Metallica's Solid Style Came Back on Death MAgnetic but i was Shocked to found out that Final Frontier was so much below my expectations. You know what they say about "The Biz" your as good as your latest album, and after i Struck my opinion on these two forementioned album's you all probably know my Preference between the two bands. Both are Really Good Bands all personal Taste... Long Story Short (And some Moral Balancing) Respect each others taste's but Claiming your better than someone different is just stupid especially when you say: we are better because they are not us. Thats no fact or even a Worthy Opinion if you ask me.
but the final opinion i think everybody would agree on is.. both of their hey-days were when they were in their twenties... now they are in their 40's and 50's.. its getting sad now... give it another 25 years and they will be in the nursing home after all the drugs (if any) and alcohol. i think its time for them to quit.. but they dont want to quit because they made music their career.. they have no other skills.. so they will drag on until they're dead. like kiss.. lol
Massive biased opinion actually. I thought Maiden's "A Matter of Life and Death" was an exceptional album and the concept was great. The album was solid and there wasn't really a bad song on it, just 1 or 2 average tracks. "Final Frontier" however wasn't so great I havn't even listened to it properly cos I got bored (I'll have to some day I guess). Taking nothing away from "Death Magnetic" though, I though that was a good album, not as good as "A Matter of..." though. But then, that's just me.
They were, and still are, completely, in every way, a weak, watered down imitation of Judas Priest.
Aside from you being completely wrong, the same could be said that Priest is just a weak, watered down imitation of Venom... meaning the Maiden is as well. In short, those three bands sound infinitely different.
But whatever. That's just like.. your opinion, man.
Do you know how many other bands also think they are better than Metallica. Do you know how many bands Metallica thinks they are better then? The difference ; none of them go around shoving in peoples faces. This is a bit pathetic, to feel the need to say you are better then "x" band is sad. I love both Maiden and Metallica. Personally Metallica has been a bigger influence on my playing, but that's not discrediting the fact that Maiden are great musically and lyrically, and have put out consistent records.
but the final opinion i think everybody would agree on is.. both of their hey-days were when they were in their twenties... now they are in their 40's and 50's.. its getting sad now... give it another 25 years and they will be in the nursing home after all the drugs (if any) and alcohol. i think its time for them to quit.. but they dont want to quit because they made music their career.. they have no other skills.. so they will drag on until they're dead. like kiss.. lol
I Really disagree, They like making music. Both of the bands Have proven that to their fans, some people like the new maiden stuff i don't, some like the old Metallica Stuff better and some don't. Even with all the differences who took place over their entire career's, Both bands still have Millions of Fans. and so what if they keep doing it till their death, We may not be so lucky to even have that chance EVER. or maybe by coincidence you and I form the worlds biggest band and have both Metallica And Iron Maiden Open up for our show as we headline them. You never know what wil happen.
I really love both bands, but you've gotta understand, both of them been failling with the last albums.
Metallica Death Magnetic sucks and so does The Final Frontier (even final frontier eddie sucks :/ ). Lets be honest here, everyone LOVES the early albuns and when comparing the last with the first you'll prefere the first (with most bands, at least on my case).
But Metallica hasn't put out a good album since 1991...
Maiden has put out 3 great albums and 2 decent ones since then
(Oh, and 2 pretty bad ones.)
I should probably leave before I turn into one of those guys that think their opinion is fact, which it seems has already happened :x
I personally think Death Magnetic was an awesome album and that Iron Maiden's Final Frontier was not i own both of them and i was happy to hear Metallica's Solid Style Came Back on Death MAgnetic but i was Shocked to found out that Final Frontier was so much below my expectations. You know what they say about "The Biz" your as good as your latest album, and after i Struck my opinion on these two forementioned album's you all probably know my Preference between the two bands. Both are Really Good Bands all personal Taste... Long Story Short (And some Moral Balancing) Respect each others taste's but Claiming your better than someone different is just stupid especially when you say: we are better because they are not us. Thats no fact or even a Worthy Opinion if you ask me.
I definitely agree with that last part. Sadly Bruce isn't as appreciative and it makes him kind of a dick, but it doesn't take away from his music.
However, I can't say I agree with the rest of your post. That's where it comes down to personal opinion. Death Magnetic felt more like something i'd hear on an alternative rock station with Buckcherry and the like than on a heavy metal station. The Judas Kiss was a pretty good song, as was The Unforgiven III, but I couldn't get into any of the others.
The Final Frontier on the other hand intrigued me with mostly every song on it.
Iron Maiden and Metallica both have very different styles, especially in their latest music, so it really all depends on which one your prefer. I, myself, prefer Maiden's vocals, lyrics, and instrumentation over Metallica's.
At the end of the day it really depends on personal preference. Neither band can "factually" be better than the other.
but the final opinion i think everybody would agree on is.. both of their hey-days were when they were in their twenties... now they are in their 40's and 50's.. its getting sad now... give it another 25 years and they will be in the nursing home after all the drugs (if any) and alcohol. i think its time for them to quit.. but they dont want to quit because they made music their career.. they have no other skills.. so they will drag on until they're dead. like kiss.. lol
I Really disagree, They like making music. Both of the bands Have proven that to their fans, some people like the new maiden stuff i don't, some like the old Metallica Stuff better and some don't. Even with all the differences who took place over their entire career's, Both bands still have Millions of Fans. and so what if they keep doing it till their death, We may not be so lucky to even have that chance EVER. or maybe by coincidence you and I form the worlds biggest band and have both Metallica And Iron Maiden Open up for our show as we headline them. You never know what wil happen.
I really disagree as well. Fans/General Public seem to forget these guys are MUSICIANS they live and breathe for music. Sure their prime was in their 20's. But to say they should quit what the love the most, that's downright stupid.
Actually no, Maiden did NOT inspire Metallica...by themselves. It was the whole NWBHM. And if they are such a great band, would they really need a trailer for a Greatest Hits? Still, love them both. Bruce is an ass for saying stuff like this though...this is the reason why Rap artists kill each other is cause someone talks crap about someone else. No ones music is BETTER....its all completely and utterly biased because its ALL based on opinion anyway.
Sometimes I think UG posts articles just to get massive flame wars started. Why even bother having comments moderators if there's no news moderators? *rolls eyes*
calm down!!!! its just for fun!!! maiden and metallica are great buddies and are constantly winding each other up !!! (maiden kicked tallica ass at football in the early nineties, tallica played an 'off' key run to the hills intro as a piss take on garage inc!! they are all mates!! jeez!!
They're both great bands. The last thing we need is another fifth grade level pissing match in the media. Bruce, as a 50 year old man, should know better than to start this kind of crap.
this is weird considering Maiden and Tallica are my two favorite metal bands of all time, and Metallica lists Maiden as one of their biggest influences.
bruce esta loco metallica a echo mejor musica durante toda su carrera todos los amantes del metal, conocemos el kill em all, ride the lighting, master of popets, ...and justice for all,black album, load y reload , garage inc, st.anger y death magnetic, mientras que de iron maiden, solo se recuerdan el killers y 666 the number of the best, que para mi el solo kill em all, es mejor que estos dos juntos.
i do recall a statement made by james hetfield that he wants his shows to be more family friendly and not play songs with swearing as much .... that isnt Heavy metal in my books. I believe both of these bands are amazing and talented but I will always be a Maiden fan ! and even though Bruce shouldnt have made this statement because its not necessary in the metal world.I feel that its just to cause tension that is unwanted amongst metal fans of both bands !
I'm not choose who is better, Metallica is my favorite, but if you are going to say you are "better" than someone you have a big ego. Sure they may be better in some respect but not all over.
One word. One word my friends settles this debate once and for all.
SLAYER.
Enough said.
(But I'm a huge Maiden fan
Slayer's first album was a rip off Iron Maiden, and Slayer actually started out as an Iron Maiden cover band.
It's just one of those things where it's subjective, but he is right. Iron Maiden is basically one of the pinnacles of old school metal, and nothing can change that.
i do recall a statement made by james hetfield that he wants his shows to be more family friendly and not play songs with swearing as much .... that isnt Heavy metal in my books.
This reminds me of their note in Master of Puppets regarding Damage, Inc. Who else remembers that?
someones jealousssss lol thats kind of a dick thing to say about some guys who look up to to Iron Maiden. I think Bruce may be forgetting that Metallica are Maiden fans too
I gotta say, I did see Iron Maiden last year... blew my mind.. I might be seeing Metallica this year... but I'm not sure, but over all.. I think my vote is for Maiden... they've always been heavy
Also, did anyone actually read the quote beyond the article title? Clearly he's just poking fun while stating his opinion. These are bands that get along great, they go to each others shows, and are able to recognize the contributions that they have each made to the metal community. Just look at Lars' interviews backstage at Maiden's gig in LA in 2008 on the Flight 666 movie.
Why taunting about the musicians of both bands ?
Where is Bruce Dickinson's guitar ? Hetfield is a really good rythmical guitarist, really fast downpicker, and at the same time a good singer, with a lot of live presence.
Why do IM actually have 3 guitarists ? Kirk is alone for the lead guitar part, and he does it very well. After many time practicing, all guitarists have approximatly the same skill level, and specialities in their style. But Hammett has the "feeling" in guitar solos. He can play fast, shred, but he keeps that "feeling" which is the more important in music.
I really loved a comment : "Bands who must say they are the best, are loosers". True thing.
Why taunting about the musicians of both bands ?
Where is Bruce Dickinson's guitar ? Hetfield is a really good rythmical guitarist, really fast downpicker, and at the same time a good singer, with a lot of live presence.
Why do IM actually have 3 guitarists ? Kirk is alone for the lead guitar part, and he does it very well. After many time practicing, all guitarists have approximatly the same skill level, and specialities in their style. But Hammett has the "feeling" in guitar solos. He can play fast, shred, but he keeps that "feeling" which is the more important in music.
I really loved a comment : "Bands who must say they are the best, are loosers". True thing.
You are saying that Murray, Smith and Gers have no "feeling" in their playing? Why don't you just say that you like Metallica better instead of confusing your opinions with facts?
thats subjective..in my opinion metallica have donde only great and maiden is great too but borring,is just a matter of opinions and opinions are subjective, so yeah,wathever, this does not mean shit
Anymore, Maiden just keep re-releasing the same albums. Metallica ballsed up when they started experimenting with Load. Was the result a good one? No, but you have to admire the way they switched things up.
Yeah well, Dickinson is maybe the greatest singer in metal,but he is an arrogant ass,,,and the most important, he said that without a reason,Metallica have never said anything about being better than Maiden, facts talk by themselves...why did he said that? is he afraid or something?
These are two bands that seriously need to tour together! Metallica and Iron Maiden, pretty much the two biggest Metal bands of all time! And two of the biggest bands of all time, period! \m/ \m/
nooooo way! bruce is overrated. sure he has a great vocal range but his voice sounds like shit but ill give them theyre talented. Metallicas way better though imo
I'm not going to say anything further beyond that Bruce has the right to his opinions, and I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to express them publicly just as you are all doing now.
It's funny how bruce says they might be bigger than us..sell more tickets than us..etc,etc..but they're not maiden. Really?..I'm pretty sure any band on the planet can argue the same point..Metallica might be bigger than us, and sell more tickets than us but they're not (insert any band name here)..LMFAO..
Haha cue the hoards of butt hurt 13 - 16 year old Metallica fan boys. This is gunna get messy. But I agree with Bruce.
Had this article been about James saying Metallica was better than Maiden, you'd be one of the butt-hurt Maiden fanboys rushing in here to defend them. See, that argument works both ways.
That was arrogant and immodest of him to say, it's really just a matter of oppinion and IMO Metallica is a better band. Iron Maiden is pretty ****ing awesome too though.
They have different sounds for sure, but as far as who has the better muscians? It depends on what you want. Bruce is a better singer and Kirk has more soul in his guitar solos (well his old ones at least).
I'm not going to say anything further beyond that Bruce has the right to his opinions, and I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to express them publicly just as you are all doing now.
No one's saying he can't express his opinions, we're just expressing ours.
Personally, I like Metallica more, but Maiden has inspired just as many if not more people than Metallica. However, I do agree with many that he's trying too compare two different genre's, and it's really difficult. Metallica is better in thrash, but Maiden is better in their standard heavy metal. It's like comparing the Patriots and the Diamondbacks. I love 'em both, but they're so different you can't really compare them fairly.
PS: I wasn't saying Metallica is the best thrash band, just the better of the two bands at thrash. Although I think Master of Puppets is the best thrash album, I the=ink Anthrax stayed in thrash longer and made even more great thrash albums than Metallica, therefore they might be the best. Oh well. It's irrelavent either way.
They have different sounds for sure, but as far as who has the better muscians? It depends on what you want. Bruce is a better singer and Kirk has more soul in his guitar solos (well his old ones at least).
Bruce has a higher voice, James voices is more powerful and he plays the guitar at the same time, and some Metallica song are not so easy to play and sing at the same time.
It's a matter of taste what you will like the most.
I personally like Metallica more, but there's not doubt that Iron Maiden is the best band ever in the entire universe, generally.
i agree with whoever said that he was arrogant about it. i do agree that an artist needs some kind of self confidence.. but to say you are better than another band?
im really starting to not like bruce after all the stuff hes been sayin lately. just live u life, play music, thats what were all here for. idk but i think its pretty low of him
Listen, if the men from Metallica don't get pissed off, why the **** should anybody else care? Let the man have his fun... he says a lot more offensive stuff live anyway.
I think that Metallica's good records (for example MOP) are the best metal tracks ever made: metallica's good music is better than Maiden's good music.
But metallica's bad music is also worse than maidens bad music ('bad' is not exactly the word i'm looking for, but you understand what i mean).
Metallica: best band ever -> not so good band
Maiden: constant great band (but never better than metallica was)
wich do you prefer?
also, someone stated that metallica has produced more shitty albums than good albums. Well, Maiden has produced more compilation/best of albums than normal albums
This about sums it up.
Although I will say that reiterating past material is not as big as an issue as shitting out crappy album after crappy album (to the point that my ears would be filled with feces if it weren't for the fact that I avoid Metallica like the plague).
Plus, Napster? Yeah...
On the whole, personally and professionally, Metallica have always been kind of a joke without Mustaine's writing and Cliff B.
Too bad no one told them the punchline.
Maiden better than Metallica? Arent they like different genres? I think Bruce is on heavy drugs because metallica is thrash and kick ass in that genre and iron maiden are like kick ass in (Insert genre here different from thrash) Understand?
2 great bands past their prime.. who cares, I don't see why we have to have a 'better' band in any situation anyway, it is and always will be all a matter of opinion..
but the final opinion i think everybody would agree on is.. both of their hey-days were when they were in their twenties... now they are in their 40's and 50's.. its getting sad now... give it another 25 years and they will be in the nursing home after all the drugs (if any) and alcohol. i think its time for them to quit.. but they dont want to quit because they made music their career.. they have no other skills.. so they will drag on until they're dead. like kiss.. lol
There is so much wrong with this comment. I honestly can't say much about Metallica, because I'm not as much of a fan of theirs as Maiden, but
1. Maiden don't do drugs. It's a fact that everyone in the metal community knows.
2. Bruce is an airline pilot, an author, a radio host and used to be a professional fencer. He's pretty much the Renaissance man of metal. Steve was an architectural draftsman before he formed Maiden, and he played on West Ham United's youth team before getting serious about music. Nicko would have no trouble becoming a successful stand up comedian, because he's possibly the funniest man to ever play drums. Janick has a bachelor's degree in Sociology. They certainly aren't useless at everything besides music, so please, please, I beg, I implore you, get your damn facts right before you go making some half-assed statement trying to prove you have a point that will end all debates.
i think Iron Maiden Is better (by very little) than metallica, ...:::::BUT:::::... , Bruce is being very
arrogant by saying it, if he know they are better its ok, but keep it to yourself...Altough metallica kick ass too \m/
Alright uhh, dunno what to say about this. But I'll break it down. Maiden is better than 'tallica, yes, but I like Metallica more. I've always seen Iron Maiden as a band that does what they please and is a clean band(no swearing in songs, encourages fans to be safe at shows, and I always thought that Iron Maiden were above and separate from the rest of the Metal world because they sound so different from everyone else. So I was kinda surprised when I heard Dickinson had said that, and frankly it made me sad that he did.
well he clearly said that metallica is better in the sense of being more successful. i personally think metallica is better, and they are definitely more successful.
Nothing of Maiden's can touch Ride the lightning through AJFA. Everything was absolutely brilliant. The fact is, Metallica is more of a household name and will be remembered longer has has a FAAAAR larger back category of great songs. But I would have to agree, Maiden kicks the hell out of LOAD/RELOAD/St Anger era Metallica, that's for damn sure.
Long Live Iron Maiden! The BEST band in the world, of course no other big four can beat the legends, the best, the most delicious! Even Scott Ian said "They are the best band in the world and I will fight you if you disagree!" Hell yeah! I've always been saying this since i was little, but such a bold statement has been confirmed by the big man himself! LONG LIVE IRON MAIDEN!!!!!
I bet Metallica would say Maiden is better then them too, so instead of everyone arguing how their personnal opinon is better then someone elses, lets just appreciate the fact that both these bands are absoulute greatness, and Deathcore Sucks
Black Sabbath is the reason heavy metal is what it is today.
Black Sabbath is the inspiration of both Metallica and Maiden.
Metallica is also inspired by Maiden, but today, Metallica inspires more kids to play music.
Personally, I like Metallica better, its sound is more modern, has more balls, kick more ass, whatever.
I have big respect for Maiden though, not so much for Dick Inson after saying what he said, if he's not entirely kidding.
There are hundreds of bands that are better then both Metallica and Maiden, it depends completely on the listener.
Metallica inspired most thrash bands, majority of them kick ass, Maiden ispired the early thrash bands also, and power metal bands, so it's again on the everyone's opinion which genre they like more (but everyone should accept the fact that power metal sucks).
I'll finish this with the beginning - if there's one band that's supposed to be the best, it's Black Sabbath - they started this whole genre that we all love, wrote the coolest riffs, and I honestly don't believe there's a good musician in heavy metal, who don't love and respect them.
Why does UG post these articles? Really? It just encourages pre-pubescent fan boys to quote and burn other pre-pubescetn fan boys, and I'm fairly certain not many people, fans or haters, care if Maiden say they're better than Metallica, do you really?
Sorry UG but please stop these pointless articles, focus on the music not the overinflated ego's of overestablished bands.
I'd totally agree, Iron Maiden to my knowledge never started making awful/mediocre at best music. Plus Bruce is a better singer, their songs are better written (more intelligent lyrics), and in general I like their music better. To me, Breadfan and I am Evil are their best songs, and they were both covers. It's like how Nirvana sold more albums, but Soundgarden is by far the superior band.
metallica has released more shitty records than good ones. so it can now be said, they suck.
you have got to be kidding me, Maiden has like 10 useless records, while Metallica has bareley 3 or 4 if you count DM. I love both bands, but if you take the 4 first records of each band (which are the best records on both sides) Metallica easily beats the living shit out of Iron Maiden
Both of these have been my tops bands since childhood, Maiden being numero uno, but putting favorites aside and judging by talent and legacy then Maiden wins. I've scene them both live and Metallica seems a bit run down but Maiden was still going strong. Not bashing Metallica, RtL & MoP still astonish me no matter how many times I listen. Both these bands will live on for generations to come!
blah blah music is all opinion. FAct of the matter is Maiden atleast has grown through the years, and I havent heard a solo that sounds the same as another....Kirk on the other hand.
The amount of ignorance in these comments is appalling.
-Bruce is taking the piss, he said so himself. No need for the argument anyways.
-People say Hetfield is a more powerful vocalist. If you've seen both live, you'd know this is nonsense.
-People say Hetfield is better because he plays rhythm guitar while singing. His vocal lines are also far less complex (And if you'll remember, Bruce used to play guitar on Revelations).
-People say Murray, Smith and Gers can't play with the feeling that Hammet does. This is just plain stupid; say that again after listening to Strange World, Coming Home, Stranger In A Strange Land, or Alexander The Great.
-People are saying Maiden's most recent work is utter shit. That's why The Final Frontier debuted at number 1 in 28 different countries, right?
It should be obvious of which opinion I am. And while Metallica may certainly have a bigger fanbase, sell out more shows, etc., no fans are as rabid and generous as Maiden fans. How many other bands have people traveling all over the world, seeing up to 30-40 shows in a single year (Hell, I feel bad that I'm only doing 6 in 4 countries, even on top of my 11 last year...). In the end, I'd rather have a smaller fanbase full of fans like that, than a larger, more diverse fanbase full of casual fans.
What competition is it? Iron Maiden's music never went absolutely terrible, they never became big babies and done stupid things like the "Some Kind of Monster" DVD and suing their fans. Iron Maiden was a HUGE INFLUENCE on Metallica, and NOT vice versa. In 1988, I would not have been able to tell you who was the better band. Now? Of course it's Maiden!
Now I just need King Diamond to admit he's better than Metallica, because that's another amazingly true statement.
I have to say Metallica wins, they've done more for contemporary music and they're records are still fresh. Maidens are a bit dated, but yeah i still love them, seeing them for the 4th time this summer.
Sometimes I think UG posts articles just to get massive flame wars started. Why even bother having comments moderators if there's no news moderators? *rolls eyes*
I personally love both bands to pieces. Both are in my top 5. But having seen both of them live, I can honestly say that right now, in this very moment in time, Maiden far out-play Metallica. Metallica would be better, but Lars has stopped practicing drums, and we all know James can't sing like he used to.
Maiden on the other hand...it sounded like I was listening to the album as far as quality goes.
If you have to get attention for your band by running off at the mouth about being better - which is opinion anyway - than another band, chances are you're not only a dick, but you're not actually better.
Metallica ripped off many bands, including Iron Maiden, from their early days on. The big songs that made them famous are rip off songs - "One" rips off "Darkness Descends" by Dark Angel, which I might add is a far better band than Metallica.
And Enter Sandman rips off "Tapping Into the Emotional Void" by Excel.
Iron Maiden was made big off of the songs "Number of the Beast", "Run to the Hills", "The Trooper", "Flight of Icarus", "2 Minutes to Midnight" and "Aces High". Bu the time of that tour, they were PAST huge.
How many of those are rip offs? I can't find ANY songs they are ripping off.
However, before someone says "they ripped off their own songs because every song sounds the same!"
First off, NO, because you need to hear "No Prayer for the Dying", which is a radical departure from their original sound.
Secondly, NO. Just because a band uses the same scale does not mean they are ripping themselves off by recycling material. The reality is, their music is far different from song to song if you take the time to analyze, which I DOUBT anyone does for any music these days.
I'd also like to note that "Master of Puppets" ripped off "Phantom of the Opera" in multiple ways. First off, both of the songs have a "slow down emotional section", and both songs have the same notation used to BARELY different effect in the part that's slowed down. When James and Kirk do that harmony section, it's a rip off of Dave and Dennis' harmony section which makes up the most memorable part of the song, the part where the bass is playing along in a similar fashion to them.
Bottom line, Metallica did not become huge because of their influence or originality. They weren't original, and the biggest influence on modern metal was MERCYFUL FATE, as they had influenced Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus (might I add, the founders of true Thrash Metal), Slayer, DEATH (huge influence on Death Metal, being the founders of it), Possessed, and all of Black Metal, and a huge amount of Power Metal too. Mercyful Fate is number one in terms of influence. Originality goes to Black Sabbath.
Better band between Iron Maiden and Metallica? I still vote Iron Maiden, because despite everything else, Iron Maiden still DESERVES THEIR NAME. Meanwhile, Metallica needs to be changed to "Rockica" or "Therapica", because they really suck now.
Hahaha. This is such forum fodder. First of all, the title is misleading. The whole statement is tongue in cheek, can't you tell. He calls himself a windbag, and says, well he might as well go for it, and makes a boast.
And then it's a war between fans.
He's just talking, wouldn't take this statement too seriously.
Hahaha. This is such forum fodder. First of all, the title is misleading. The whole statement is tongue in cheek, can't you tell. He calls himself a windbag, and says, well he might as well go for it, and makes a boast.
And then it's a war between fans.
He's just talking, wouldn't take this statement too seriously.
I'll throw in my opinion. I think that Maiden has better live shows and playing ability, but Metallica has better song writing, or at least more applicable writing. I like both though, and I can respect his opinion, but does he really need to talk crap like that? I know many bands do, but do any of them need to? *shrugs* There's already too much hat for metal, we don't need to bag on eachother.
Well, he's a bit of a conceited douche for having said that, but I have to agree with him. Even today, Maiden's newer works hold up stronger than Metallica's. As for the old stuff, that might be difficult to judge...
Metallica have done more for music and inspiring other to pick up instruments and start bands.
True, but Steve Harris on Bass inspired ME to play that instrument. His style is unbelievable. not to say that Metallica hasn't had their share of good bassists of course.
I grew up with metal. Starting with Metallica. I heard the first 5 albums and it changed my life. I herad Iron maiden and I loved them too. ALTHOUGH, when you look back at history Iron Maiden's music as a whole did not do what Metallica did. Metallica changed metal and helped create new bands by inspiring them to not care what others think and do what they know best. When you think of metal what do you think back to? Metallica. First song you will most likely think of is Master of Puppets. Not Run to the Hills. Live Maiden is awesome. Their guitarists and their bass player are phenomenal and do things that Hetfield and Kirk never did because that is what makes Maiden, Maiden and Metallica, Metallica. As far as the bands from an inspirational stand point Metallica beats them by far and when you've listened to and loved (if your a metal fan and a Metallica fan) their older music, see them live, and experience it for yourself more than likely you would pick Metallica over them. Looking back at Hetfield's history and even Lars' history (him being the outspoken person he is) they have never said anything like what Bruce just said. When they play live they are always praising the bands that play ahead of them. They admire present metal bands. I know it is very political but Iron Maiden was not inducted into the Hall of Fame. That means their fan base is most definitely not as big. Metallica is more raw and powerful and Maiden is a completely different style of metal that takes direct inspiration from the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. (which was not thrash by the way) So it all comes down to taste in metal but I have to disagree with Bruce. Metallica is like the Red sox: Were once a powerhouse and changed the game but now they kind of struggle but their fans are die hard and love them regardless. Maiden is like the Yankees: just because they have been consistant gives the fans an argument to say they are better. It comes down to who you like more. I personally choose Metallica. I own all their albums. love all their albums. As a musician find value in all of them and I will cherish it. Iron maiden...not so much although they are great anyway. My personality leans towards metallica. BUT think about this, they both are great bands even when comparing every genre most of us can agree that they are legends...both are metal bands. Long live metal.
Metallica ripped off many bands, including Iron Maiden, from their early days on. The big songs that made them famous are rip off songs - "One" rips off "Darkness Descends" by Dark Angel, which I might add is a far better band than Metallica.
And Enter Sandman rips off "Tapping Into the Emotional Void" by Excel.
Iron Maiden was made big off of the songs "Number of the Beast", "Run to the Hills", "The Trooper", "Flight of Icarus", "2 Minutes to Midnight" and "Aces High". Bu the time of that tour, they were PAST huge.
How many of those are rip offs? I can't find ANY songs they are ripping off.
However, before someone says "they ripped off their own songs because every song sounds the same!"
First off, NO, because you need to hear "No Prayer for the Dying", which is a radical departure from their original sound.
Secondly, NO. Just because a band uses the same scale does not mean they are ripping themselves off by recycling material. The reality is, their music is far different from song to song if you take the time to analyze, which I DOUBT anyone does for any music these days.
I'd also like to note that "Master of Puppets" ripped off "Phantom of the Opera" in multiple ways. First off, both of the songs have a "slow down emotional section", and both songs have the same notation used to BARELY different effect in the part that's slowed down. When James and Kirk do that harmony section, it's a rip off of Dave and Dennis' harmony section which makes up the most memorable part of the song, the part where the bass is playing along in a similar fashion to them.
Bottom line, Metallica did not become huge because of their influence or originality. They weren't original, and the biggest influence on modern metal was MERCYFUL FATE, as they had influenced Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus (might I add, the founders of true Thrash Metal), Slayer, DEATH (huge influence on Death Metal, being the founders of it), Possessed, and all of Black Metal, and a huge amount of Power Metal too. Mercyful Fate is number one in terms of influence. Originality goes to Black Sabbath.
Better band between Iron Maiden and Metallica? I still vote Iron Maiden, because despite everything else, Iron Maiden still DESERVES THEIR NAME. Meanwhile, Metallica needs to be changed to "Rockica" or "Therapica", because they really suck now.
You're no better than Bruce. You pick out three songs of their first five albums and say that they are not an original band? Do you have no respect for their early work? Just get out. Metallica is legendary. As is the other bands you mentioned. Metallica still stands apart from all the others. Check your opinion and tone yourself down.
So he not only called out the band, but also their fans. What exactly is he referring to when he calls Metallica fans 'gold plated' middle class. Last I checked, Maiden tix were just as expensive. Just saying.
Sorry for the triple post but when you said that metallica ripped off iron maiden and then gave examples of songs that were ripped off of other bands that weren't iron maiden you negated your argument. give a list of songs that metallica ripped off of them and well see how your almighty opinion stands.
metallica was influenced by iron maiden... i love both bands, but i must agree. iron maiden stuck to its roots throughout the history of the band, while metallica became an alternative metal band. everyone has their own personal opinions, but bruce really needs to watch what he is saying.
It's very rude of Bruce to knock a band that openly says how much they are influenced by Maiden, and would (probably) say that they agree Maiden is better. Bashing a fellow Metal band isin't right, especially given it's a genre that gets so much hate to begin with.
But I do understand why Bruce is butt-hurt about it all...Metallica is more commercially succesful and is more known outside the metal world. I don't think that's how it should be, and Bruce probably feels the same way. Not to say this justifies Bruce, but I don't think he was trying to attack Metallica personally, just that Metallica is more succesful commercially.
"They might be bigger than us and they might sell more tickets than us"
Ok then Brucey, I think the general opinion would be then, that they are better than you.
I honestly think Iron Maiden's music is horrible. I can count on one hand the number of songs by them I like. I've heard alot of people say they were the last true heavy metal band. Ya, they killed the (sub) genre. Give me true heavy metal any day, please.
I'd have to say that Iron Maiden is better than Metallica's current lineup, but not than their original lineup, but let's be honest Metallica's creativity has been steadily going downhill since the 90's the black album was their last good one.
Goddamn! Well Bruce is my idol, but that comment was QUITE arrogant. Though majority of the comments here are in regards to that, so I'll talk about something else. What I have to say regards both the stars and the fans: STOP ARGUING ABOUT WHO'S THE BETTER BAND!! Seriously, rock and metal are two of the most wonderful things ever to show up in the world, and the global community that formed below that is also fantastic. So do we have to make all that look so bad with these stupid arguments among ourselves? Can't we just be happy to be united under our general love of rock and metal?? (lol I feel so corny, but someone had to say it!)
I gottta say! Maiden are a far better band than Metallica! But yeah, Metallica`s music are a work of art, that is, their greatest hits, like one, fade to black, master of puppets.
In the other hand, All Maiden albums are great, all! Without Exception!
and well, it depends on your view of Maiden and Metallica! It is a fan war! That`s why people say shit to get more attention! If u pay attention to those things then it will affect u! I go with Maiden but yeah! I really dont care what they say about each other, just keep making great music guys! Both Maiden and Metallica! I want to see another Metallica album!
It's all personal preference. Iron Maiden is better.... to the people who think that. I don't like them... I think Metallica is a lot easier to listen to. So in my little world, Metallica is better. I hate it when people dub their opinion to be fact. Their such... Mo's! lol
No,people,it is NOT a matter of opinion.Opinion has to do with taste,which in this case is irrelevant.The technicality of Maiden is simply superior.If they wanted to,they could play Metallica songs 10 times better than Metallica does.The instrumental is by far more complex (if you don't trust me,listen to any non Garage Inc. Metallica song and then to a Maiden track) and Maiden tells epic stories,they express something.Not to mention that Metallica got pissed drunk and even forgot how to hold the instruments on stage numerous times.Maiden never did...and if they did,no one noticed (which makes them even more awesome).I'm no fan boy,but I DO have an argument.
I like both bands, I lean towards Metallica personally. I also think that holds even more water for the fact that you never see Metallica saying they're better than Maiden or any similar comments. For me, public egotistical comments like this really bring down a band's reputation. Especially when he backs it up later.
IMO Bruce is kiding. Just for the record, i prefer Metallica but i love both. I thought americans (most people on UG) would be favorable to Metallica but I see more votes for Maiden here.
Eminem is the best there is. Even Bruce admits it. /trolling off, but meh at this Bruce's statement. Both bands are awesome, it's down to personal preference. Mine goes to Metallica.
Protest The Hero whips both their asses in the studio and live, but of the 2 Metallica is far better as a metal band. Maiden isn't even hard rock by today's standards, people only call them a metal band because of what they did 30 some years ago.
Maiden is amazing, they're one of the original metal bands, and still sound amazing today. Every member of the band has a ridiculous amount of talent. Metalica, however, consists of a lead guitar player who's solos are nothing but wanky, wah-wah seizures, a drummer who's head is crammed firmly up his ass, a flamenco guitar player, and one of the greatest frontmen to ever exist. James is the body and soul of that band. If Metallica lost James, the band would fall to pieces, where as if Maiden lost one of their members, the band would go on strong and would continue to write amazing metal. Commerically, Metallica is the better band, but in reality, Iron Maiden is the better band, and anyone who disagrees is an uneducated **** wagon, who constatly sucks off the teets of todays music industry. Still, I love everything Metallica has ever written, and I listen to them more often than I do Maiden, although I have more respect for Maiden because of their expansive music career. Metallica also has the shittiest fan base in the history of music. Just saying.
I prefer the talents of the individual members of Maiden, but there's no denying what Metallica has done during the past, what, 30ish years? Metallica will always be the biggest metal band in the world, but that's not saying they are the best. IMO Maiden. This article was definitely made to start a war.
Finally someone speaks out about how lackluster the musicianship of Metallica, Bruce is 100% correct, theyre a band that has also been through an identity crisis, and have carved a new niche that is in many ways better than the first part... Metallica cant write songs to save their life... truly sad.
Please die... you lose your opinion privi
leges now.
Metalfan41 wrote:
Protest The Hero whips both their asses in the studio and live, but of the 2 Metallica is far better as a metal band. Maiden isn't even hard rock by today's standards, people only call them a metal band because of what they did 30 some years ago.
I don't like cocky stuck up bands... what Dickinson said gives me a good reason to not like them. Usually bands have respect for each other and their music, but saying you're better makes Maiden look egotistical and jealous of Metallica. If Metallica said that about Maiden, I'd be saying the same thing...
Darthkp wrote:
Good analogy. Who is the ass though?
Lars Ulrich's giant forehead?
To be honest, I think Metallica would agree. They've said over the years that Maiden are one of their biggest influences and heroes. To be honest, I think this comment is just a bit of fun, not meant to be taken too seriously.
I love both bands and there's no point arguing over which is better... Although I do think that in a live setting, Maiden are by far the tighter band.
come on they both sound way different! Metallica has a more aggressive sound than Iron Maiden. I think Iron Maiden has a more complex sound structure though. Anyways, both are awesome bands. Iron Maiden is a more pure form of Heavy Metal while Metallica play subgenres of metal like thrash metal and others. At the end it is just a matter of preference. It is hard to compare bands that don't sound very similar at all. I personally prefer Metallica btw.
Just to all of you claiming that Metallica sixia cause they sold out, and Maiden stayed true to metal, "selling out" DOES NOT mean they have crappy musicianship, it simply means that they changed musical direction. It would be like...Mozart changing from classical orchestra to rock opera or something. (Don't kill me for the example)
Petruccishreds! wrotelease die... you lose your opinion privileges now.
Oh hurr durr he doesn't agree with me he must die... Grow up kid. Maiden became famous because alot of angsty kids liked them in the 70s who went on to make bigger and better bands. They never have and never will have anything that can touch RTL through AJFA or even anything by Megadeth. I don't give a damn if they influenced Metallica, you only hear it on KEA anyway. There's a reason Metallica is the second highest selling rock group of all time and Maiden isn't.
They are better than Metallica, for a number of reasons:
1) Consistency--Maiden has only really had two or three albums that just can't be listened to anymore (and two of them were with Blaze). More than half of Metallica's discography is just junk.
Your opinion. Some people may like all of Metallica's albums.
KMOguitar23 wrote:
2) Talent--Maiden play their insruments with soul. One harmonized note played by Janick, Dave, and Adrian together is worth more than a thousand by Kirk Hammett. Plus, Harris and McBrain outweigh Lars and Trujillo/Newstead (not so much Burton) by a ton.
I think we have a Iron Maiden fanboy here!
I'm a fan of both and while Trujillo or Newsted can't touch Harris, you can't compare Burton or Harris. Both were equally great.
KMOguitar23 wrote:
3)Attitude--Maiden has the better attitude towards being in a band. It ain't about the money or the amount of records you sell. Maiden do it for themselves and for the fans. Metallica bases their music off of that idea (at least after Master came out, and they're just jerks about it anyway.
If you haven't noticed, Metallica has a better additude about being in a band, than they used to. I'm pretty sure they don't care about the money like they used to. Except Lars. Metallica do it for the fans as well, if you haven't noticed.
Metallica created the Thrash Metal, Metallica created the agressivity in music, not just in metal, in all kind of music... Metallica is a way more hate, pain, sadness and a way more evil! Metallica owns!
I've got to side with Metallica in this debate. I literally only respect Maiden for their influence. But I mean, they play 4 chords, and in my view they are almost entirely devoid of talnet.
I'd have to say that Iron Maiden is better than Metallica's current lineup, but not than their original lineup, but let's be honest Metallica's creativity has been steadily going downhill since the 90's the black album was their last good one.
Yes Bruce, they are not Maiden. AND YOU'RE NOT METALLICA.
Oh ho hooooo that was stupid to say Bruce. I lose respect when they have to be cocky *******s claiming they're ... whatever "god's chosen band." Metallica is chill about all they've done (and that list is LONG) and their influence is far superior. Not saying which band is better just what it. I love both bands but Metallica has done more for music and will always be the biggest metal band there is. And hearing Bruce whine about that makes me lose respect for him and can only hope the rest of Maiden isn't the same way.
I've got to side with Metallica in this debate. I literally only respect Maiden for their influence. But I mean, they play 4 chords, and in my view they are almost entirely devoid of talnet.
deviod of talent??? have you ever seen them play, have you heard any of their songs from start to finish? they are a big influence because of their talent. everyone wanted to be like iron maiden. if you say they have no talent, i want to hear you play everyone of their songs flawlessly. vocals drums and all or everything you just said is invalid.
Well, he's obviously half-joking, but I think he's half-serious, since usually when people joke about things, they use it as a way to unseriously express their actual feelings.
But if we're talking about virtuosity, neither band really has much of it, but although Metallica has tougher guitar work, Maiden might slightly take an edge, skill-wise, as a band as a whole.
Metallica may have "sold out" and changed their style, but even if they're trying to cater to potential fans, they've never been afraid to not do what was expected of them. Maiden defined a formula on their first album and have yet to really diverge from it. Also, Metallica have yet to release their first, let alone their fifth, compilation album. That's pretty much trying to cash in on things you've already done, which is fine, but not exactly pushing the envelope.
I personally like Metallica better. I like their material a lot more. James Hetfield's rhythm is legendary.
Lacebad wrote:
...Iron maiden practically invented the entire genre of power metal (which is to say, kai hansen loves 'em ) and were fore runners of NWOBH and of the most influential in the growth of heavy metal full stop.
To say that Iron Maiden invented anything is preposterous. They were, and still are, completely, in every way, a weak, watered down imitation of Judas Priest. Not to take anything away from them; I appreciate their existence, but they were hardly original, just like Metallica.
pal, to be honest I'd love to debate your post, not that there is much to debate, only you explaining your preferences which I can't fault, but I'm drunk and it's 5am here anywho, in regards to the maiden - priest thing... priest > maiden? hell yeah! priest are better by miles! I stand by my iron maiden are THE influence in power metal and a HUGE nwobhm band yet, yes, priest has done greater things for metal over all but preposterous my bollox.
on the "technical guitar" side of the argument[not to say that a better guitarist causes better music i.e I know more people who know the ramones better than becker (I love both) but the ramones had some damn good songs!] I would look only to metallica's garage inc album where they made a medley of mercyful fate songs, anyone who's reading this who is not familiar with mercyful fate well you know where youtube is they ****ing rock , in which they covered the songs - evil, satans fall, into the coven and corpse without soul..is it just me or on the album does kirk hammet not attempt to play these solos in the mercyful fate medley at all? theres a few licks here and there but he never does the solos proper
Master0fPupp3ts wrote: Metallica created the Thrash Metal, Metallica created the agressivity in music, not just in metal, in all kind of music... Metallica is a way more hate, pain, sadness and a way more evil! Metallica owns!
venom ? this is pre metallica
and thrash as ****! I'm sure alot of people can point bands out earlier bands here
i agree though, i much prefer maiden's music to metallica. metallica have made some pretty awesome music but i think maiden's is more awesome more often. My reason(s) why: Maiden never sold out like Metallica did. They don't sue people left right and centre like Lars, Bruce can actually hit a note unlike James, Adrian can play much more than minor pentatonic improvisation unlike kirk, and finally my my two Maiden posters look way cooler than my metallica one
this is pointless. why bruce? Metallica and Maiden were one of the Metal genre's best, and the frontrunners of Metal. Why bash someone who is in the same field? Is this a Bruce jealousy? Metallica is the biggest metal band in the world, so what? You got Iron Maiden in you.
People like you should be bashing Justin Bieber or other pop shits, not the same true rockstars as you are.
Soooo many comments. My opinion is virtually worthless.
However, I will say that Metallica has been one of my favorite bands, although Maiden is my all-time favorite band.
Bruce obviously sounds cocky and douchey saying this, but I think he's just having a laugh. Everyone knows Metallica has been sub-par for a loooongtime while Maiden keeps putting out solid records. Bruce is having a laugh while at the same time pointing out that Maiden is still the premier act in metal.
At least Metallica aren't afraid to reinvent themselves and do what they want, unlike other bands who's releasing the same record over and over again for 30 years.
1. Listen to Iron Maiden(album)
2. Listen to NOTB
3. Seventh Son
4. X Factor
5. AMOLAD
6. Shut up
7.???
8. Profit
It seem like ever since they started touring last year that Bruce has become a bit of a...well...ass kinda. I love him for the performances he gives and his song writing talent. But he has become a little self-ritous.
Rant aside I'm afraid I agree with him. Love both bands but Maiden beats out Metallica. Maiden has seniority, Maiden has gone through countless line-up changes and still put out great music, and they've never been afraid to try new things.
Metallica, I still love you guys. But I'm afraid if I had to choose between seeing you or Maiden live I'd go for Eddy. Though those pyrotechnics are crazy
the headline might as well read: the lead singer of iron maiden thinks iron maiden is better than metallica. why is this music news?
maiden and metallica are both metal, but they're waayy different from each other. all boils down to opinion
lol (right now) both suck!
The last albums of both bands are shitty as hell. They early stuff was great. Id have to say metallica is better (just for Killem All and Ride the Lightning... epic albums)
people always say that Metallica inspires more people to start playing, but Iron Maiden inspired Metallica to start playing, so can you really compare them? And Metallica has covered several Maiden songs, so it's not really up for debate...
Besides, Maiden didn't release St. Anger
I happen to like St. Anger. Iron Maiden might have good songs, but the rest is ****ing filler. Metallica at least experiments with their sound, and I actually liked the 90's and early 00's with them. Way to come off as the ass you are Bruce.
Last thing needed to be said is that Metallica is ****ing fantastic live.
I think that Metallica's good records (for example MOP) are the best metal tracks ever made: metallica's good music is better than Maiden's good music.
But metallica's bad music is also worse than maidens bad music ('bad' is not exactly the word i'm looking for, but you understand what i mean).
Metallica: best band ever -> not so good band
Maiden: constant great band (but never better than metallica was)
wich do you prefer?
also, someone stated that metallica has produced more shitty albums than good albums. Well, Maiden has produced more compilation/best of albums than normal albums
This is exactly my thoughts. The four thrash albums, plus the Black Album and Death Magnetic are great IMO, the others are batshit terrible. I'd take RTL or MOP over anything of Maiden, but Maiden's worst is not as bad as St. Anger. *shudders*
People seem to think that when you hit a certain point of celebrity or success, that you lose the right to an opinion.
If you're all entitled to bitch, moan, and toss around bullshit, Brucie can make an argument that is tame, and in all honesty was probably meant in a joking manner. This is a debate best reserved for high school kids just getting into metal.
And honestly, nothing wrong with loving Metallica, but when it comes to metal history, being ignorant of bands like Mercyful Fate, Celtic Frost, Satan, Angel Witch, Venom, Raven, etc. is only hurting you. Do some digging, and you'll see that even when Kill Em All was new, it wasn't exactly without precedent. In terms of ideas and harmony, it's actually quite tame compared to Mercyful Fate and Satan's first albums, and no where near as developed as what Maiden were doing at the time.
Any band that releases Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind and Powerslave in 3 consecutive years, should be considered the greatest heavy metal band of all time. Even if it was the black eyed peas or justin bieber who did it.
Overall, averaging everything that both bands have ever released respectively, Metallica definitely beats Maiden. However, Maiden definitely has a number of better albums, but it's a lot of the "filler albums" that **** up Maiden's discography.
Um... ****... let's see what I can pull outta MY windbag...
I guess that both bandwagons should stop bitching.
It's like comparing apples to oranges, Heavy Metal and Thrash just can't really be compared. like... it would be like taking Mastodon and Avenged Sevenfold and putting them together. You can't, it doesn't work, get your shit straight.
And I personally think that it's like going back to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They're both titans that did their part, none can be compared due to their influence on music even thought they were in different streams of Hard Rock n' Heavy Metal. That's my 2 cents.
Leather Sleeves wrote:
btw, its not "Maiden's better", its "IMO... ect"
Everything people say represents their opinion, you don't have to write down IMO every time. This is the "comment-section", not the "what-I-say-is-fact-section".
On-Topic: I'm more into Metallica. Never really like Maiden, I don't like Bruce's voice.
Wow, this guy really deserves being formally called a Dick every time his name comes up.
Now, this ain't about who of them is the better band/musician/songwrite/performer/whatever, this is about ethics.
You stop thinking about music the moment you start thinking about competition. And officially stating that you're better than your fellow artist the discussion is rendered useless, and, quite frankly, pathetic.
Just because Bruce makes a polarizing remark doesn't make him a "windbag". Being interesting is part of his job, even if that means alienating people who won't listen to him anyways. (btw, Iron Maiden>Metallica, because I'm not into thrash)
Wow,haven't Metallica already mentioned Iron Maiden as their influence?
Bruce,come on!You guys were in the industry before Metallica was and the fact that you're saying this only means you have an inferiority complex with Metallica and i don't blame you man!
Look,you just started a war between people who love Metallica/Iron Maiden?What good did that bring?
I'll say it-You're a f*cking douchebag and thats it.Thanks for your music but your mother should have swallowed you when she had the chance.
Here is the test. Who can you listen to for longer? EVERYONE WILL ANSWER METALLICA. Iron Maiden is one of the most talented bands ever, but their epic style gets old quick. They wrote song great songs but I bet you more people can name 4 Metallica songs more than Iron Maiden. I dont know what Bruce is saying they are better at cause both are equal in talent, and Metallica definitely wrote more memorable music. I dont see how he says they are better.
I agree with bruce. YOU GUYS ARE WAAAAAY BETTER THAN METALLICA!!!
Metallica have gotten really bad since load and reload. God, even the Black album and justice for all were sort of crap. Iron Maiden haven't, in my opinion, made a single bad album. Although the final frontier wasn't their best, it still amazes me to the quality and the length of it. It was a great album and metallica sold out. Ride the lightning and master of puppets were the only amazing albums by metallica so my hat goes off to maiden. YOU TELL 'EM BRUCE!!!
Of course Maiden are bigger than Metallica, did anyone think otherwise? I don't think Metallica would say they were bigger than one of their primary influences.
Lets put it this way i like both bands. Both bands have released i consider to be shit albums. But Maidens shit albums outweigh that of metallicas. Plus metallica have ****ing amazing songs from their first albums. Maiden don't have that many songs that i'd call amazing.
Tellica all the way bitches. Though Maidens more legendary.
In this article, Bruce tries to point out that they are better than Metallica, regardless of the obvious proof that Metallica are WAY better than them... Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, what an ego! Pathetic! The facts are clear!
Good Maiden albums = almost every one they have ever made.
I think thats a bigger fact than Metallica selling more, SoulSkar... I hate it when fanboys start sayin Metallica's the best band ever cuz they sell alot, thats like saying Pop is the best type of music because its popular.... I really like Metallica, but there are hundreds of bands out there way better than them... just sayin my opinion, there are no facts as to who is better....
I hope you don't mean Bruce there. After all, he's not only a metal singer, he's also an expert swordsman, tv and radio presenter, published novelist, movie scriptwriter AND pilot and marketing director for Astraeus Airlines...
I've probably forgotten something off that list too.
They just play a totally different style of Metal,,therefor neither of them is "better" than the other.
Other than that,,there are no facts in such discussions,,it's just a matter of personal taste and opinion.
2 great bands past their prime.. who cares, I don't see why we have to have a 'better' band in any situation anyway, it is and always will be all a matter of opinion..
I hope you don't mean Bruce there. After all, he's not only a metal singer, he's also an expert swordsman, tv and radio presenter, published novelist, movie scriptwriter AND pilot and marketing director for Astraeus Airlines...
I've probably forgotten something off that list too.
i was kinda meaning the other ones.. i knew about bruce.. except the swordsman
I thought that a band which sells many cds, many tickets, has strong bonds and the most fans in the world is a great one....they are in the same level...but trust me when one of the best band leaders,as bruce, says such tings...man..he even knows that 'tallica are better than maiden..he is just trying to gain publicity again by saying bad things for metallica..if he says that they are better...they sould show this with music not with crap sayings..long live metallica!!greetings from greece
Bruce was just kidding!You do realize that he has an album coming out soon, and he wants to get it publicized. The rest of the news was about the compilation. The headline will get people to read the article and give bruce fast publicity.
And just for the argument, maiden. Every album this decade is good, with three of them imo being amazing.
I really don't like Bruce's attitude. Everything is based solely on opinion. Don't be a jerk and say you're better. I love both bands and obviously I'm goin to have an opinion and lean towards one or the other. But nobody else cares about my opinion and I don't give a crap what you think. But people really need to widen their views and stop talking crap about these bands. They both freakin rock and are amazing. Get over who's better.
Um... ****... let's see what I can pull outta MY windbag...
I guess that both bandwagons should stop bitching.
It's like comparing apples to oranges, Heavy Metal and Thrash just can't really be compared. like... it would be like taking Mastodon and Avenged Sevenfold and putting them together. You can't, it doesn't work, get your shit straight.
And I personally think that it's like going back to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They're both titans that did their part, none can be compared due to their influence on music even thought they were in different streams of Hard Rock n' Heavy Metal. That's my 2 cents.
I totally have to agree with this. I like the BS vs. LZ thing. People don't fight about which is better cause theyre both amazing and good at writing music.
Simply like Metallica more. Yes Iron Maiden is damn awesome but! Most of their songs sound the same. Metallica has a very big diversity and they put on the best live shows you can witness. But then again it is a matter of opinion.
In my books, Maiden. Hands down. I did go through a bigger Metallica phase from ages 13-17ish, but Maiden for me has just lasted through the years, to the point where I can still listen to them every week and not get over it.
I USED TO LIKE IRON MAIDEN BEFORE KNOWING ABOUT HIS STATEMENT..... PERSONALY I THINK THAT HIS STATEMENT ONLY BRINGS OUT THE INFIRIOR AND CHILDISH SIDE OF IRON MAIDEN..... PATHETIC.
The consistency and more natural evolution of Iron Maiden's music tips me in their favour. The last 10-15 years of Metallica's recorded work seemed a bit forced to me and was lacking the quality of their earlier records, whereas you could argue that Maiden have written some of their best works in the last decade.
Bruce is being Bruce. Really, he isn't saying Metallica sucks, just he thinks Maiden is better. Saying you think your band is the best isn't really "talking crap" until you start taking cheap shots.
Metallica ripped off many bands, including Iron Maiden, from their early days on. The big songs that made them famous are rip off songs - "One" rips off "Darkness Descends" by Dark Angel, which I might add is a far better band than Metallica.
And Enter Sandman rips off "Tapping Into the Emotional Void" by Excel.
Iron Maiden was made big off of the songs "Number of the Beast", "Run to the Hills", "The Trooper", "Flight of Icarus", "2 Minutes to Midnight" and "Aces High". Bu the time of that tour, they were PAST huge.
How many of those are rip offs? I can't find ANY songs they are ripping off.
However, before someone says "they ripped off their own songs because every song sounds the same!"
First off, NO, because you need to hear "No Prayer for the Dying", which is a radical departure from their original sound.
Secondly, NO. Just because a band uses the same scale does not mean they are ripping themselves off by recycling material. The reality is, their music is far different from song to song if you take the time to analyze, which I DOUBT anyone does for any music these days.
I'd also like to note that "Master of Puppets" ripped off "Phantom of the Opera" in multiple ways. First off, both of the songs have a "slow down emotional section", and both songs have the same notation used to BARELY different effect in the part that's slowed down. When James and Kirk do that harmony section, it's a rip off of Dave and Dennis' harmony section which makes up the most memorable part of the song, the part where the bass is playing along in a similar fashion to them.
Bottom line, Metallica did not become huge because of their influence or originality. They weren't original, and the biggest influence on modern metal was MERCYFUL FATE, as they had influenced Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus (might I add, the founders of true Thrash Metal), Slayer, DEATH (huge influence on Death Metal, being the founders of it), Possessed, and all of Black Metal, and a huge amount of Power Metal too. Mercyful Fate is number one in terms of influence. Originality goes to Black Sabbath.
Better band between Iron Maiden and Metallica? I still vote Iron Maiden, because despite everything else, Iron Maiden still DESERVES THEIR NAME. Meanwhile, Metallica needs to be changed to "Rockica" or "Therapica", because they really suck now.
Yep, Metallica didn't become huge for their influence and originality, oh yeah i completely forgot Mercyful Fate are the biggest influence on modern metal, all those Metalcore (the biggest sub genre of metal in the last 10 years) bands really have MF to thank...
CONGRATULATIONS, you are the biggest idiot to grace the internet!
I like all the "Iron Maiden has never made a bad album and Metallica has" comments....of course Maiden never made a bad album, can't make a bad album if nobody is listening in the first place (OHHHH NO HE DIDN'T *snap snap*)...okay, I take that back, nobody has been listening to any of their albums made within the last 25 years (which is what? 10 or so?).
By the way, the "better" bands don't need some cheap gimmick like a mascot (*cough* Eddie *cough*) in order to gain recognition and sell records
I thought that a band which sells many cds, many tickets, has strong bonds and the most fans in the world is a great one....they are in the same level...but trust me when one of the best band leaders,as bruce, says such tings...man..he even knows that 'tallica are better than maiden..he is just trying to gain publicity again by saying bad things for metallica..if he says that they are better...they sould show this with music not with crap sayings..long live metallica!!greetings from greece
I prefer Iron Maiden over Metallica every day of the week, but with that said; I don't like Bruce much - he's a good singer, but he seems arrogant and not at all nice. James Hetfield on the other hand, he seems like a nice guy.
Of the Iron Maiden singers, I have Blaze as a favourite though. The X Factor is a fantastic and very underrated album - and his solo career is far better than anything Bruce have done aside from the Maiden-material.
I feel like Metallica has influenced more people to pick up a guitar...I hear way more Metallica riffs than Maiden riffs in guitar stores. However, Maiden inspired Metallica...This is a stupid debate.
Metallica rules their music have inspired me to not go on a killing spree and they inspired me to play guitar and drums so Bruce your opinion may be fine to you but there is one thing about opinions they can not be proven so you need to keep your shit to yourself or just crash your plane you ****in dick!
IM SAYING THIS ONCE AND HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU COMPARE MAIDEN TO METALLICA!!!!! METALLICA IS THE BEST BAND EVER IN THE HISTORY OF ANYTHING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED!!!!! ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK MAIDEN IS BETTER ARE COMPLETE LITTLE BITTY GIRLS HA
Maiden has released way more records that are all for the most part, consistently better. So I'll go ahead and say I agree with Bruce. Metallica are still a great band, and put on a great show, but now, thats about all they are, a live band.
Gotta have a set of music worth listening for the live show to be worth watching.
abouchiw is bruce because he is not a good musician.thats why he critisisezes metallica .tallica invented thrash metal .for me its boring because in my country metallica is the god of metal "algeria" love tallica and respect maiden but after this statement maiden are shit
Anyone who still believes Metallica invented Thrash Metal doesn't know Thrash Metal. Bands like Exciter and Venom were playing Thrashier music than Metallica ever did, on any album.
And anyone who tries to argue that Metallica is better than Maiden needs to get their head examined, even with Iron Maiden's passed few albums being a disappointment compared to most Maiden albums, they are still miles ahead of Metallica in every way.
Metallica isn't even the best Thrash Metal band, and they stopped releasing good albums after Master of Puppets.
But regardless, Motorhead, Manilla Road, and Judas Priest are still better than both.
Another thing: All the people complaining about arrogance and cockiness.. Stupid.
Arrogance is as much a part of Metal as anything is. It fueled a lot of bands, from Manowar saying "wimps and poseurs leave the hall", or Voivod's "Fuck off and Die", or Razor saying "If you don't like Razor, get your ass outside". Hell, the entire anti-Glam stance Metallica, Megadeth and pretty much the entire extreme Metal scene in the 80's stemmed from arrogance, from knowing they were better and that Glam Metal was crap.
Bruce is right even if its a bit harsh to talk like that. Maiden's music is more complex and epic. Better quality. Each guy in the band is unique and extremely pro , their live playing is ridiculous for their age i mean look at Flight 666 they play songs from the 80's and they sound just as good if not even better than the studio versions... metallica always sound out of tune live and kirk always messes up solos n stuff....
dude, didn't you know metallica's lars loves maiden so much and both the frontman and the lead guitarist kirk hammet and james hetfield praises iron maiden so much, they really praised them as gods, you gotta see the expression on lars's face when they get to see bruce it's like seeing a kid open a birthday present and getting what he wants
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Oh my God.
In any case, I am not going to say who's better than who, but I am going to put out there that I personally prefer Metallica.