Korn frontman Jonathan Davis believes dubstep is officially part of heavy metal culture.
His comments come only a year after working with Grammy-winning Skrillex on Korn's "The Path To Totality".
"North American dubstep is the new electronic heavy metal. It's the-filthier-the-better in that world, and with heavy metal, it's the heavier the better, so it's kind of the same thing," he told Spinner.
Davis talked about his DJ alter-ego J Devil and how he's trying to shake up the EDM [Electronic Dance Music] scene:
"I make people drop their jaws because I'm just up there telling them to go f-ck themselves. No one's ever done that at an EDM show and crowds are loving it. It's not like I'm offending anyone, people are like 'Yeah, f-ck you too!'"
He had a few harsh words for record labels too, and says musicians in this era don't need to be signed to succeed.
"When the machine worked in the early days of Korn with Epic, that sh—t was amazing. We had MTV, we had video stations and labels that cared and put the work in, but now it's so diluted and f—cked up. We're going underground again.
"Do we really need labels anymore with the way things went with the Internet? I don't think so."
Watch Davis introduce himself as J Devil in this video:
Do you think dubstep is officially a part of heavy metal culture now? Does Skirllex's past as a guitarist inspired by bands like Korn mean the genre has roots in metal? Share your opinion in the comments.
Oh lord. Where to even start on this one. First of all, if you think metal is "the heavier the better" than you're retarded.
Secondly, **** dubstep. And **** it being associated with metal.
"It's the-filthier-the-better in that world, and with heavy metal, it's the heavier the better, so it's kind of the same thing."
I don't think this is true for both metal and dubstep. Since it can get so heavy it just becomes unlistenable and just because it is heavier does not make it better.
Oh lord. Where to even start on this one. First of all, if you think metal is "the heavier the better" than you're retarded.
Secondly, **** dubstep. And **** it being associated with metal.
Exactly! And I officially have lost all respect for Davis now that he calls himself ..J Devil... *shivers*
This guy sounds stupider in every interview. He needs to go away. The part where he was telling audiences to f--- off and how they loved it made me laugh though.
Oh lord. Where to even start on this one. First of all, if you think metal is "the heavier the better" than you're retarded.
Secondly, **** dubstep. And **** it being associated with metal.
Exactly! And I officially have lost all respect for Davis now that he calls himself ..J Devil... *shivers*
My god, stop this shit already. Quit saying this, dubstep isn't the new anything, it's just a fad. Everybody's going to forget about it within a year or so and a lot of people already have.
Dubstep is dubstep. I wish people would stop calling it "The new .... ". Some people like it, others don't - pretty much the case with every genre of music ever.
I couldn't care less about the whole dub step thing but man did you read his description of himself as a DJ? "I make people drop their jaws because I'm just up there telling them to go f-ck themselves. No one's ever done that at an EDM show and crowds are loving it. It's not like I'm offending anyone, people are like 'Yeah, f-ck you too!" Damn is he full of himself.
I think people need to realise that the popular strain of dubstep is much like any other popular strain of any other genre of music.
It's like hair metal was to heavy metal in the 80's.
I kinda wish UG would stop posting these articles. It's not that I agree or disagree with the dude. It's just that it's so annoying. "So-and-so says _____ is te new metal/rock. Do you guy agree?"
Come on now..you guys know the answer. After a while it just seems like UG is seriously trolling...
UG... PLEASE stop this non-sense. Unless you're having fun reading all the comments, if that's the case, keep it going, by all means.
Or at least get some REAL metalhead saying that Dubstep is they new/electronic/whatever associated with Heavy Metal. Don't bring the guy from Korn and Muse, for god's sake.
I actually see what he means. In the EDM world, dubstep really has the place that metal has in the rock world. Both are somewhat similar, but not the way Davis makes it out to be.
I can honestly understand the comparison of metal and dubstep. Metal is rock's heavy, headbangin' cousin, and dubstep is basically the same thing, only switch rock with electronic music. Dubstep is a reaction to the light sound of pop the exact same way metal and punk were a reaction to rock.
Korn frontman Jonathan Davis believes dubstep is officially part of heavy metal culture.
And this is why Davis should have retired years ago.
His comments come only a year after working with Grammy-winning Skrillex on Korn's "The Path To Totality".
And "The Path To Totality" is a shitty record.
Sorry, Korn, but you're drunk on past success and out of touch with reality.
Epi g-310 wrote:
I can honestly understand the comparison of metal and dubstep. Metal is rock's heavy, headbangin' cousin, and dubstep is basically the same thing, only switch rock with electronic music. Dubstep is a reaction to the light sound of pop the exact same way metal and punk were a reaction to rock.
Yeah, the difference is punk was more a reaction to the shitty situation in England at the end of the '70s. Metal was simply a progression from Hard Rock to something heavier (Heavy Metal). There weren't really any reactions, except that some people hated Disco and wanted something heavy. Learn your music history of the 20th century. /shrug
ever since head left korn, theyve all sucked, fieldy still rocks but JD decided to virtually remove all his bass playing and replaced it with his gay dubstep
idk what you losers are talking about. "The Path of Totality" was one of the best albums i've ever heard. super unique. im not that into dubstep but what jonathan davis did with it was pretty cool and sounded badass.
i don't considering dubstep being any new metal. i just like bassdrops and heavyness like that. so don't judge. i'm a ****ing metalhead but i happen to like dubstep. "oh but yer not a true metalhead and dubstep's retarded" well **** you. i listen to Skrillex, deadmau5, Liquid Stranger, Bassnectar, it just depends on what mood i'm in. i don't listen to metal 24/7. (more like 24/6 lol)
Wubstep is pretty similar to metal, outside of the whole instruments thing.
Loud heavily distorted sounds with syncopation and an emphasis on rhythm. Y'all are angry at this because dubstep is ****ing everywhere, and metalheads HATE mainstream shit.
No. No form of electronic music really has roots in metal (Except industrial, MAYBE). It's kinda dumb to say two completely different things are rooted in each other. It's kinda like saying, "This apple has roots in oranges."
Skrillex's past as a guitarist influencing dubstep? No. First off, Skrillex didn't invent dubstep, he's just the most famous artist doing it right now. Secondly, his past as a guitarist - he was in From First to Last, and they got much better once he left. Also, Jonathan Davis really needs to grow up now.
I'm just up there telling them to go f-ck themselves. No one's ever done that at an EDM show and crowds are loving it
Has this guy never been to see the prodigy?
Does Skirllex's past as a guitarist inspired by bands like Korn mean the genre has roots in metal?
No it doesnt, skrillex is commercialised crap
Dubstep has invented by benga, and it was originally influnced by Uk garage, it has nothing to do with metal. leave electronic music to electronic music fans. get your own ideas korn not just steal ideas from another genre
so many butthurt 'metalheads' here. just embrace it.
Embrace what? Regardless of who listens to what, dubstep isn't the new heavy metal. Never will be. It's pop, just a heavier version of it. Try listening to, for instance, Cowboys from Hell and then some Skrillex song and then tell me what's heavy metal.
Hell yes all you haters are living in the 20th century dubstep IS the new metal, if Davis AND bellamy say it then it is final, if skrillex didn't invent dubstep you would all be hopelessly lost in 5 years when metal shat out its own intestines, grow and get with the programme \D/
If this is sarcasm, it's a win. If it's trolling, it's a fail.
I listen to all kinds of music and that includes dubstep, however, not once have I ever thought to myself: 'this dubstep sort of sounds like metal'. I don't see how anyone can come to that conclusion. I think it's closer to 80's techno, and modern Rap music than to metal.
so many butthurt 'metalheads' here. just embrace it.
Why should we embrace it when most respectable Electronic fans don't even like Dubstep, and especially it's newer, trendy offshoot Brostep, themselves?
I love Korn to death, but dubstep is what it sounds like, unorganized, poorly thought out, electronica for tone deaf people. Techno, I can get into, not dubstep.
The only band that mixes metal and anything electronic really well is the browning. Other than that its all kinda crap.
Would agree but, other bands add electronics really well, but I gotta disagree with Jonathan, cuz it's not the new anything, it's from the 90's and it wasn't even music or noise at first.
shut up JD. as much as i love Korn, he needs to knock off this dubstep shit. i liked some of the Path of Totality, but if they make another dubstep-like album that band is over.
i just wish they could get Head back and record an album that sounds like the old days :/
I think dubstep and electronic shit sounds great as like a background element, but when it's the main focus of the song, or being played solo, it just sounds bad. Very bad.
That kind of electronic music should stay the way it was designed to be: dance music. Nothing more.
NO! Just no! If you want electronic metal go listen to a Nine Inch Nails album. Metal/ Rock is one of the last sacred places for talent and defenders of the art/faith/music. Seems now gone are the days of having musical talent, a.k.a. playing an instrument.
Hey Im a close minded elitist metal head and I only listen to the most extreme metal! Mastodon totally sold out on Blood Mountain! Im a moron! - everyone on these boards
NO! Just no! If you want electronic metal go listen to a Nine Inch Nails album. Metal/ Rock is one of the last sacred places for talent and defenders of the art/faith/music. Seems now gone are the days of having musical talent, a.k.a. playing an instrument.
I'm not a dubstep fan, really at all. But if you think rock and metal are the only place where talent exists you haven't heard enough music.
Also, I'd consider a computer or DAW a real instrument.
crazysam23_Atax Yeah, the difference is punk was more a reaction to the shitty situation in England at the end of the '70s. Metal was simply a progression from Hard Rock to something heavier (Heavy Metal). There weren't really any reactions, except that some people hated Disco and wanted something heavy. Learn your music history of the 20th century. /shrug
Punk and metal both are rooted in rock, and are the "edgier" form of it. That was the point I was trying to make. "Reaction" might not have been the best choice of words. I know my music history, sir.
I'm pretty sure dubstep is a british thing. Other than that yeah I guess he's right.
Emphasis on rhythm and 'heaviness': check
Generic tendencies: check
Retarded fanbase: check
I'm pretty sure dubstep is a british thing. Other than that yeah I guess he's right.
Emphasis on rhythm and 'heaviness': check
Generic tendencies: check
Retarded fanbase: check
Heavy Metal riffs: nope
But it's no surprise someone from a Nu-Metal band wouldn't understand what makes Metal "Metal" is the riffs.
A band called Hawk eyes (formally called Chickenhawk) are the new heavy metal, Dubstep is just the new dance music, as was Nu-Rave a few years ago. I don't see why there needs to be so many ****ing sub-genres!
I don't know what the hell everyone's problem is. He says it's the new electronic metal. He's right, it's not the new metal, but it is the new electronic metal. Many heavy bands are incorporating dub step into their routine.
I don't hear people complaining about White Zombie, they're electronic metal too, dub step is just another evolution.
I'm pretty sure dubstep is a british thing. Other than that yeah I guess he's right.
Emphasis on rhythm and 'heaviness': check
Generic tendencies: check
Retarded fanbase: check
Heavy Metal riffs: nope
But it's no surprise someone from a Nu-Metal band wouldn't understand what makes Metal "Metal" is the riffs.
What makes something metal has now become different for most people. I see many suggest A7X isn't metal and I think that's ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure dubstep is a british thing. Other than that yeah I guess he's right.
Emphasis on rhythm and 'heaviness': check
Generic tendencies: check
Retarded fanbase: check
Heavy Metal riffs: nope
But it's no surprise someone from a Nu-Metal band wouldn't understand what makes Metal "Metal" is the riffs.
What makes something metal has now become different for most people. I see many suggest A7X isn't metal and I think that's ridiculous.
It doesn't matter what some misguided fools think makes Metal, Metal has, and always will be defined by the riffs, as well as the ability to follow its influences back to the roots: Black Sabbath. It's not some subjective thing that's left up for people to decide based on how they feel. What is Metal, and what makes Metal Metal is a definite, unchanging quality.
Avenged Sevenfold is a Hard Rock band mixed with some Commercialcore. Just because they decided to rip off Death a couple times and steal Overkill's logo, does not mean they are a Metal band.
I do actually enjoy dubstep, I hate all this elitist crap about only respecting people with actual drum kits and instruments. Dubstep can be fun as hell to listen to, especially through good speakers when your blazed as hell.
Sorry guys but Korn-Take a Look on the Mirror IS heavy metal, I know all you dinosaurs can't accept that because your idea of metal is Poison...but facts are facts. Speaking of facts, dubstep is NOT metal, some of it is heavy, but it's totally artificial as opposed to the organic instrumentals and vocals of rock/metal. Industrial may have slight metal roots, because of the introspective and dark lyrics and fuzzy guitars ala NIN and Skinny Puppy. All this emotronic dubstep crap sounds like movie soundtracks and transformers porn. I liked some of Path of Totality, but I threatened to give up on Jonathan Davis after his Lil Wayne cover, but this immature band-wagoning "J-Devil" crap is crossing the line, truly making me want to give up on him for good.
I think that guy moonlights as our copier repair guy...
I dig it though. He's an artist doing what he wants to do. Buy it, don't. Hate it, don't. He will laugh his ass all the way to the bank while we post bitter comments on the internet. Its all good.
I'm a fan of Korn for about 2 years now and I have listened to material from every album they have made. I kinda liked the Path of Totality thinking that even though I expected better quality songs, it was good to experiment with something that was new and fresh.It wasn't a dubstep album and it wasn't a metal album. People get too butthurt over this dub-metal thing that is being created. As they are about nu metal. Dubstep itself is not metal by any means but I, as a listener am looking forward to listeing to more music from such an anorthodox mix.
"I make people drop their jaws because I'm just up there telling them to go f-ck themselves. No one's ever done that at an EDM show and crowds are loving it."
Wow, so this is it? How profound. This guy is well into his forties, twenty years into his career, and that's how he feels he's contributing to the music scene? Standing onstage telling the crowd to f*** off? Riveting stuff.
Jonathan, you've reached the point where it's just plain embarrassing now. What little respect people had left is now completely evaporated. Please, save yourself and your family the shame and just hang it up already. Your day came and went years ago.
Goddamn... you people are so ignorant when it comes to EDM.
You think its just like, you press a button and music happens.
thats not what happens.
it takes a long time to write electronic music songs.
It DOES take talent and musical knowledge, despite what you arrogant ****s think.
Just because someone can't play an instrument doesn't mean they don't have "musical" abilities.
Anyone can write a melody.
But in saying this, Dubstep and Metal should stay away from each other.
Oh, so 'it's kind of the same thing', I get it. I get it now, guitar, computer, yep, kind of the same.. I guess cuz they're both comprised of matter and all.
Dubstep is dubstep. I wish people would stop calling it "The new .... ". Some people like it, others don't - pretty much the case with every genre of music ever.
1.Skrillex is not the first, and certainly not the only dubstep musician.
2.Electronic Metal is Buckethead. Dubstep shares no similarities with metal except for having Phrygian Mode a lot of the time, and being bombastic.
3.Korn is really going to be saying what is metal? Because they sure aren't.
4.All of these guys make it seem like the metal scene has died and that dubstep is thriving, and thus dubstep is the new metal. First of all, the only people who think metal is dying or dead are either aged 40+ and have no concept of metal's evolution, and thus hate newer metal bands, or they don't know that bands like VEKTOR exist to prove everyone wrong.
5.Muse and Korn are calling dubstep the new metal. Since when have either of these bands been the metal encyclopedias? If you want a human being to say what is and isn't the new metal, ask someone who is IN the new metal scene. Ask someone like Vektor or Obscura...
and if you're going to stick with popular bands, ask Black Sabbath, ask Slayer... but PLEASE don't ask Metallica. The less they talk, the better.
Goddamn... you people are so ignorant when it comes to EDM.
You think its just like, you press a button and music happens.
thats not what happens.
it takes a long time to write electronic music songs.
It DOES take talent and musical knowledge, despite what you arrogant ****s think.
Just because someone can't play an instrument doesn't mean they don't have "musical" abilities.
Anyone can write a melody.
But in saying this, Dubstep and Metal should stay away from each other.
Yes, indeed, writing electronic music DOES take talent. If you're doing this -
Dubstep takes minimal music knowledge and some programs. The only electronic music that takes some talent to write is the link I just posted.
Oh lord. Where to even start on this one. First of all, if you think metal is "the heavier the better" than you're retarded.
Secondly, **** dubstep. And **** it being associated with metal.
Exactly! And I officially have lost all respect for Davis now that he calls himself ..J Devil... *shivers*
Even though a lot of people probably are justified with this somewhat ridiculous statement, it seems like the majority of comments are serious Korn haters.
qrEE wrote:
5.Muse and Korn are calling dubstep the new metal. Since when have either of these bands been the metal encyclopedias?
Muse said the crowd at a Skrillex concert was crazy like a metal concert. Bellamy never said one genre was taking over the other or the "new metal" and most of what he says in interviews is bullshit anyways.
ok its official. im going to have to youtube some dubstep. im tired of hearing everyone saying this kind of shit. i can all but guarantee it wont hold a candle to metal. nothing ever does.
ok its official. im going to have to youtube some dubstep. im tired of hearing everyone saying this kind of shit. i can all but guarantee it wont hold a candle to metal. nothing ever does.
ok im back. ya, it sounds like ****in dance music to me. and all the hype is??
ok its official. im going to have to youtube some dubstep. im tired of hearing everyone saying this kind of shit. i can all but guarantee it wont hold a candle to metal. nothing ever does.
Some Jonathans just want to see the world burn.
Kind of weird to say that electronic music is new metal. When both of those types clearly are different.
Its like saying cats are the new dogs
Aside from Korn being a "my first metal band" thing and 'jDevil' not having a valid opinion since the 90's (that might still be an overstatement) I can give an opinion not based on the fact that Korn are irrelevant.
Dubstep is not the new metal. Nothing is the new metal, other than metal itself. The only thing that can even remotely link the 2 together is that some metal fans do like Dubstep...but then again, fans from every genre of music like dubstep...
It's the same as saying "Rap is the new metal" because a few metal fans listen to it.
Besides, I refuse to be told what is the 'new metal' by bands who are barely metal themselves. When Slayer and Testament share their opinion about it that's different...They will be wrong aswell but at least it's actual metal bands giving an opinion on the subject.
Dub step is metal for electronic but it doesn't compare to the technically musically skilled metal musicians or their melodies. metal can never be replaced because the fans care too much and it takes skill to make rather than making wub-wubbing and dial-up sounds.
Also, Korn was never metal. They were kind of heavy but that's all that they share with real metal bands. They don't have the same spirit. Do I have to remind everyone about the Metallica tribute they did? Not even a ****ing guitar solo in that.
rebeltildeth87 wrote:
I cant tell the difference between this and any other EDM. I was expecting something new maybe?
Well there's some people who can't tell the difference between different metal genres. It's all about just lots of listening and of course variation from just a few popular artists.
Nothing against you if you're not interested enough to get into it though. I'm not very into electronic music much myself.
not this again.. UG posts this kind of news not because its relevant, but because they must enjoy all the folks trashing in the comments. shame on you UG
I don't care for Korn at all but I really wish people would stop flaming dubstep, or at least stop using stupid arguments against it. That being said, "reintroducing yourself" as J-Devil is pretty stupid imo.
Dubstep is NOT Metal. NOT now, NOT then, NOT ever. Dubstep is Dubstep. Just because it's a genre of music that can't stand up on it's own doesn't mean you should through it onto another genre. I'm seriously getting pissed with the wrongfull labeling of music genres, just to try and tap into a bigger fan base. Your music should stand on it's own, not on it's label -.-
I mean yeah ya know I can see his point. Everything just sounds so the same with guitars and bass and drums. Just got to do the same riffs and include dubstep and they'll be more metal than old metallica, slayer, cannibal corpse ever was.
He's wrong, and then he's right. When u combine dubstep with heavy metal, u get a sound like A.I.(d) listen to A.I.(d) heavy metal dubstep and u'll understand what i mean. but korn's version of metal dubstep sucks
His arguments are invalid. He even said nu metal isn't precisely metal, and now he says dubstep is the new metal? I never respected JD and now I have a valid reason to take that lack of respect even further.
I think people need to realise that the popular strain of dubstep is much like any other popular strain of any other genre of music.
It's like hair metal was to heavy metal in the 80's.
Thankfully the hair metal thing died... Just as dubstep will
Good dubstep, like all edm takes talent, time, effort, experience, songwriting skills and musical ability to produce.
A musical instrument is a tool used to make music. If a computer is used to make music, is it a musical instrument by definition, in the same way that a whistle or a microwave or a guitar could be used to make music.
Learning how to use music software like Ableton, FL Studio, Logic, Reaper etc takes a similar amount of time and dedication as learning an instrument such as a piano, violin or guitar.
The amount of time and effort it takes to write and record a guitar song at about the same technical level as Stairway to Heaven (ie. intermediate), is about the same as it takes to create, mix and master a basic edm song using software.
This guy does have a valid point that the energy and power of metal is created through heaviness, abrasiveness and harshness, and that the exact same can be said for dubstep.
Saying dubstep sucks because you don't like Skrillex is the same as saying metal sucks because you don't like Asking Alexandria
I love electronic metal. Synthhs and hair raising electric guitar are a match in my opinion. I may have even been able to tolerate Dubstep Metal, but its just to much distasteful sounds in my opinion. I can appreciate it, because i know the effort it takes to make, but its jsut not what i'd call "the new electronic metal". Theres a tonne of differences
Goddamn... you people are so ignorant when it comes to EDM.
You think its just like, you press a button and music happens.
thats not what happens.
it takes a long time to write electronic music songs.
It DOES take talent and musical knowledge, despite what you arrogant ****s think.
Just because someone can't play an instrument doesn't mean they don't have "musical" abilities.
Anyone can write a melody.
But in saying this, Dubstep and Metal should stay away from each other.
Yes, indeed, writing electronic music DOES take talent. If you're doing this -
Dubstep takes minimal music knowledge and some programs. The only electronic music that takes some talent to write is the link I just posted.
HAHAHA you are so retarded.
This is ****ing stupid arse breakbeat black metal.
Not only is black metal a shitty genre of metal, breakbeat doesn't require more musical knowledge than dubstep.
i should know.
I produce dubstep, and play lead guitar and vocals in a three piece Tech/Prog/Brutal Death metal band.
dubstep, "offically apart of the heavy metal culture"? well, yes, minus the "offically" part, simply because thats only one persons opinion. its a genre that has been mixed with a wide variety of other genres, specifically in this case electronic heavy metal, which has made it more prevelant and a commodity, more exposure to audiences, thus "apart of the culture"...weather it sticks or is just a fad is not relavant to what he's saying.
obviously not everyone digs "dubstep metal", but he's just saying what HE feels right now in his life, from HIS perspective...just because you disagree with the man, doesn't make him WRONG
also....lots of people with sticks up their arses on UG recently...but hey, that wont change. just saying it seems like proof to me of someone just being a shitty person with the only option of taking it out on strangers through a computer screen...i come on here to discuss the articles, and discuss i do...i have alot more productive ways to "waste" my time
it seems like everyone misunderstood what the man is saying...he is saying that heavy metal relates to rock music in the same way dubstep relates to electronic music...its in the same way a "heavier" and more "rhythim oriented" style of the music it originated from...that being said though...jonathan davis is and ever was an absolute musical retard
He calls himself JDevil while in the song on the back he sings stuff about getting rid of devils and he tells his audience to go fffk themselfves? I think JD wants to quit but doesn't know how to just yet. You can just shut your trap, that'll work out great for all of us.
i don't see how something that is part of pop music can be associated with metal. the whole point of metal is to go against the grain. might as well associate black metal with lady gaga.
I can see his point and everyone is just a little bit butthurt as usual here on UG...
As much as anyone hates it, it's simply true that modern 'brostep'(as I would rather call it) and modern metal(like djent) aren't that far apart. That's what Jonathan Davis is trying to say, he has just put it in the wrong words I think.
metal is primarily guitar-bass-drums. yes. you can have other instruments in there such as keys or strings and so on, but if it lacks the core foundation of the genre then it's no longer metal.
In my opinion, Metal is all about originality and doing what you love, if you like Dubstep (I personally don't) and Metal I'm not gonna fault you for that, I respect you if you can be yourself and do what you love to do, and find a way to combine the genres together. Though if it's just because Dubstep is the "in" thing nowadays, and you're just doing it to sell out, then I feel the completely opposite.
i dont know how someone in there right mind would think that dubstep even comes close to being metal. metal lives forever. for all you dubstep lovers, learn to like a real freakin instrument.
I'm pretty sure dubstep is a british thing. Other than that yeah I guess he's right.
Emphasis on rhythm and 'heaviness': check
Generic tendencies: check
Retarded fanbase: check
Heavy Metal riffs: nope
But it's no surprise someone from a Nu-Metal band wouldn't understand what makes Metal "Metal" is the riffs.
What makes something metal has now become different for most people. I see many suggest A7X isn't metal and I think that's ridiculous.
It doesn't matter what some misguided fools think makes Metal, Metal has, and always will be defined by the riffs, as well as the ability to follow its influences back to the roots: Black Sabbath. It's not some subjective thing that's left up for people to decide based on how they feel. What is Metal, and what makes Metal Metal is a definite, unchanging quality.
Avenged Sevenfold is a Hard Rock band mixed with some Commercialcore. Just because they decided to rip off Death a couple times and steal Overkill's logo, does not mean they are a Metal band.
What the hell is "commercial core"?
This is exactly what I mean, there are so many made up genre names just to make people feel better. It's so pointless.
most of everyone commenting are extremely ignorant in regards to actually knowing the musical pattern dubstep follows and how it actually does relate to heavy metal. Ive been going to metal shows since i was 14 and most recently have enjoyed many a dubstep concerts and at both genres the crowds are extremely similar in style. I love lamb of god and I love zeds dead (actual sick dubstep not dumb skrillex dubstep)and you will find people between the ages of 15-25 enjoying both. Anyone outside of that age range is pretty much just lost in translation, i.e. noises and sounds are dumb. The similiarities are there, but most of you are extremely biased and close minded to recognize the structure and scene of metal and dubstep are indeed somewhat alike.
I respect Jon because hes trying to connect his music with a relatively brand new genre of music and is trying to transcend musical interests. Haters are gonna hate, but people who open their eyes. Its all about the breakdown, where the music fan can dance like a crazy animal or bobblehead all day. Relax and spice up your music variety ya knobs
Learning how to use music software like Ableton, FL Studio, Logic, Reaper etc takes a similar amount of time and dedication as learning an instrument such as a piano, violin or guitar.
I can use FL studio and learnt how to use Logic as part of my university course...
They take nowhere near as much time or dedication as an actual instrument, let alone a violin, guitar or piano.
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