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Kid Rock: 'Steal Music'

artist: kid rock date: 06/19/2008 category: general music news
Kid Rock: 'Steal Music'

With his tongue firmly in his cheek, Kid Rock has been commenting on file-sharing again but says he doesn’t need to steal himself, because he’s rich - but not rich enough, as it turns out. Kid Rock announced that he’s boycotting iTunes because he says between Apple and the labels, they’re keeping all the money, reports Torrentfreak.com.

In recent comments, Kid Rock - real name Robert Ritchie - has said that his record company had previously asked him to stand against “illegal downloading” because he was told that people were stealing from him. According to a BBC report, his response to the label was: "Wait a second, you’ve been stealing from the artists for years. Now you want me to stand up for you?"

In true rock and roll style, this performer wasn’t going to do as he was told. “I was telling kids - download it illegally, I don’t care,” he said. “I want you to hear my music so I can play live.

Now, in 2008, Kid Rock is boycotting iTunes because he says that artists are not getting their fair share of the revenue generated by the Apple store. He is annoyed at this ‘old system’ “where iTunes takes the money, the record company takes the money, and they don’t give it to the artists”.

Kid Rock crucially talks about how the Internet should’ve been a “great opportunity for everyone to be treated fairly, for the consumer to get a fair price, for the artist to be paid fairly, for the record companies to make some money.

Of course, as the singer notes, it hasn’t turned out that way but concedes that he’ll probably have to put his music on iTunes at some point but notes that he’s doing ok overall without it: “I’ve just sold a million records, I’m not really feeling that blow” he said.

With his tongue firmly in his cheek, Kid Rock also says he doesn’t agree with the one-sided argument against file-sharing: “I think we should level the playing field. I don’t mind people stealing my music, that’s fine. But I think they should steal everything. You know how much money the oil companies have? If you need some gas, just go fill your tank off and drive off, they’re not going to miss it.

Will this rocker be taking his own advice? Probably not. “No, I don’t steal things. I’m rich” he said.

The entire article can be found here.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:23 am + print this article + mail to a friend
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 153 
 comments posted
dimebagsmygod :
I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:51 am / quote |
atc228 :
"Kid Rock told me to do it "
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:12 am / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
Kid Rock is the American Bad Ass!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:44 am / quote |
getts182 :
Whoa whoa whoa, wait, hold the phone....Kid Rock is still around?!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:06 am / quote |
Suav Nitebeest :
Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:13 am / quote |
ShaDoW0lf :
dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.


Worst comparisons ever. You've forgotten that the petrol station gets its petrol from oil pumps, who aren't human. Yeah, that's right, Oil pumps don't pour their human lives,sweat,tears and dreams into their "oil", only to have it ripped from them unfairly by greedy oil tycoons to be sold at no benefit to the pump itself. Furthermore, oil pumps don't "pump" at live shows for personal fulfillment and merchandise selling. Your analogy is the worst kind of one-sided propaganda.
Personally, stealing what is stolen already isn't stealing at all, especially if you give it back in terms of tickets to a live show! Heck, that's like doing the police's job.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:17 am / quote |
seankellyultgtr :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


haha yea

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:24 am / quote |
thefoldarsoldar :
atc228 wrote:

"Kid Rock told me to do it "


:haha

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:24 am / quote |
stueey :
Wow, I like his opinion actually. "I dont steal coz im rich" fair play. fair play indeed.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:25 am / quote |
Kelicon :
ShaDoW0lf wrote:

dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.

Worst comparisons ever. You've forgotten that the petrol station gets its petrol from oil pumps, who aren't human. Yeah, that's right, Oil pumps don't pour their human lives,sweat,tears and dreams into their "oil", only to have it ripped from them unfairly by greedy oil tycoons to be sold at no benefit to the pump itself. Furthermore, oil pumps don't "pump" at live shows for personal fulfillment and merchandise selling. Your analogy is the worst kind of one-sided propaganda.
Personally, stealing what is stolen already isn't stealing at all, especially if you give it back in terms of tickets to a live show! Heck, that's like doing the police's job.


i 2nd that

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:25 am / quote |
metal@hart11 :
Suav Nitebeest :
Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

haha so true. stealing metallica riffs, every riff skynard ever wrote. kid rock needs to check himself

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:25 am / quote |
asator :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


i actually lol'd haha

and he's being pretty unfair. its ok for him if people dont pay for his music, he's rich. but other artists need the money.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:28 am / quote |
bass_bradicus :
"I'm rich" hahahaha
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:28 am / quote |
[x]Huffy[x] :
How ironic. Kid Rock is the biggest thief in modern music this side of Wolfmother.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
\m/Angus\m/ :
Man kid rock is the shit. I don't care what you guys say, he is one of the only true new "rockers" around. Everyone else has there head up metal and pop punks ass. At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:32 am / quote |
shwilly :
ShaDoW0lf wrote:
Worst comparisons ever. You've forgotten that the petrol station gets its petrol from oil pumps, who aren't human. Yeah, that's right, Oil pumps don't pour their human lives,sweat,tears and dreams into their "oil", only to have it ripped from them unfairly by greedy oil tycoons to be sold at no benefit to the pump itself

You're forgetting a key thing: the oil you're talking about in some cases (though certainly not all) comes from countries where the people or even the local government don't receive sh*t in terms of revenues because companies like Shell and BP claim to be the only ones who deserve getting rich because they have the technology to obtain this oil regardless of te country in which they're doing this (such is the case with Nigeria where people have started attacking oil rigs). Truly a missed opportunity to stimulate these local economies

I reckon it's weak analogy but in a way he's still right because there probably are a lot of artists who could use the money, though people like Kid Rock are certainly not in that category

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:35 am / quote |
jshwak :
"and we were trying different things, and we were downloading funny things, making love out by the lake to our favorite pirated song; More bit torrents by the hour, getting high on file-sharing power, downloading that sweet stolen music all night long" !!! *que the sweet home Alabama background music *
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:35 am / quote |
Powerpro :
I thought Kid Rock was a cover band.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:35 am / quote |
Absent Mind :
At least he doesnt beat around the bush about his fortune...
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:36 am / quote |
Korzack :
haha Well at least he speaks his mind, which is admirable.. Not quite sure how Shell would see such comments, but tbh, its' not like they're gonna force him to apologise lol
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:44 am / quote |
michhill8 :
funny thing about iTunes is that they screw over the record labels too! So it's hard for them to give payouts to the artists that amount to anything when they get nothing themselves.

quick sidestory - back when iTunes first came on the scene the labels were desperately looking for a good way to digitally distribute their material so they agreed to some pretty low profits with Steve Jobs.

ok, story over.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:49 am / quote |
white99z :
I have never felt the need to comment on the news until now. I am not a fan of Kid Rock by any means. However, I condone him for speaking his mind here. He says a lot of intelligent things here. It is time for the record labels to fall and let the music stay where it belongs and where it has been throughout the history of the world (except for the last 80 years or so).... in the hands of the PEOPLE!!!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:54 am / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
\m/Angus\m/ wrote:

Man kid rock is the shit. I don't care what you guys say, he is one of the only true new "rockers" around. Everyone else has there head up metal and pop punks ass. At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.


People judge Kid Rock's music from "Picture" which is a shame. Open up your mind and start to live!

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:56 am / quote |
\m/Angus\m/ :
white99z wrote:

I have never felt the need to comment on the news until now. I am not a fan of Kid Rock by any means. However, I condone him for speaking his mind here. He says a lot of intelligent things here. It is time for the record labels to fall and let the music stay where it belongs and where it has been throughout the history of the world (except for the last 80 years or so).... in the hands of the PEOPLE!!!



times 99.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:56 am / quote |
MooshMooshMarc :
kid rock cant sing for shit and his music is sampled/ripped off.
talentless poser.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:01 pm / quote |
Wayward_Son :
white99z wrote:

I have never felt the need to comment on the news until now. I am not a fan of Kid Rock by any means. However, I condone him for speaking his mind here. He says a lot of intelligent things here. It is time for the record labels to fall and let the music stay where it belongs and where it has been throughout the history of the world (except for the last 80 years or so).... in the hands of the PEOPLE!!!

This. Kid Rock's music is mediocre at best, but I agree with what he's saying 100%.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:03 pm / quote |
DeadIdentity81 :
Kid Rock is one of the most gifted musicians out there. He samples the songs with the artists permission and then sings his own lyrics over it. That is not stealing. Stealing is when you take something without the person knowing. Rock bands dont make a living on cd sales they make a living playing to 1000's of people..
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:08 pm / quote |
JakdOnCrack :
Kid Rock sucks, but I respect what he's saying here. Plus, he seems to just be a normal guy, albeit with a lot of money from reaaaal bad music.

Whatever. I agree with what he says here and like him more because of it.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:11 pm / quote |
rocker931 :
Kid ****ing Rock!!!!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:11 pm / quote |
moomoocons :
DeadIdentity81 wrote:

Kid Rock is one of the most gifted musicians out there. He samples the songs with the artists permission and then sings his own lyrics over it. That is not stealing. Stealing is when you take something without the person knowing. Rock bands dont make a living on cd sales they make a living playing to 1000's of people..


That is sarcasm right? Using guitar riffs someone else wrote in a song about your summers singing "Sweet Home Alabama" when you in fact live in Michigan =/= gifted musician.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:17 pm / quote |
charger356 :
When you steal gas from a gas station, the oil companies aren't even affected. Gas stations by the gas from oil companies and mark it up like 2 or 3 cents to generate a profit. When someone drives off with their gas, the station loses all it's profit made from the last month. I've worked at a truck stop for the past two years, sadly.

Anyways, Kid Rock is gay for cowboys. Just so all of you know.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:35 pm / quote |
nathantayloryes :
ok.... so in my opinion, Kid Rock sucks but I do agree with what he is saying, even though its been said by many artists already, plus its not like he is doing anything about it (eg. Radiohead's little experiment with releasing In Rainbows online).
But everything he says here makes sense so thatll do for me

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:36 pm / quote |
Cutlass_253 :
moomoocons wrote:

That is sarcasm right? Using guitar riffs someone else wrote in a song about your summers singing "Sweet Home Alabama" when you in fact live in Michigan =/= gifted musician.


I sing Sweet Home Alabama, and I live in Texas...

Although I guess that's kind of a moot point.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:36 pm / quote |
nathantayloryes :
oh... and you began two paragraphs with 'With his tongue firmly in his cheek'
BAD ARTICLE!

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:37 pm / quote |
Soadfan8 :
Powerpro wrote:

I thought Kid Rock was a cover band.


he has as much lyrical talent as one

"bowwitta bow wi bang da dang diggy diggy diggy set the boogie set up jump the boggie"

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:37 pm / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
That is sarcasm right? Using guitar riffs someone else wrote in a song about your summers singing "Sweet Home Alabama" when you in fact live in Michigan =/= gifted musician.


Are you being sarcastic when you judge an artist off of one song? It's not a sample either. It's called a Mash.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:39 pm / quote |
BTBAM_7 :
metal@hart11 :
Suav Nitebeest :
Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

haha so true. stealing metallica riffs, every riff skynard ever wrote. kid rock needs to check himself


yeah thats true. but hes promoting stealing so i dont think he needs to 'check himself'.

my opinion is get music anyway you can as long as it doesnt involve itunes. i dont want cds becoming obselete.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:41 pm / quote |
jeowy :
as much as i dislike his music, im very pleased with the comments hes made, and ive just attained a morsel of respect for him.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:44 pm / quote |
TheBurningFish :
As much as I don't like Kid Rock, this is about the most awesome thing a big artist has said on this subject, ever.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 12:54 pm / quote |
Sapient :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


I was thinking the exact same thing.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:05 pm / quote |
ShoeFaceBass :
People actually care about him?
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:11 pm / quote |
Spl!nTeRgu!tAr :
Kid rock gets Metallica, Lynyrd Skynard and all them to come into a studio and record a backing track. Obviously he kidnapped them and made them sample a song in his studio right? Cause thats stealing

On topic: What a cocky ******* haha

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:15 pm / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
ShoeFaceBass wrote:

People actually care about him?


He's sold over 24 million records in 10 years so you do the math.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:16 pm / quote |
pyritmann :
Yeah the only reason he claims to steal music from other artist is because i bet if you looked at his ipod the only artist on there is kid rock. Most overrated rocker around.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:19 pm / quote |
amareus :
Bla bla bla bla.. the GAS STATIONS actually lose shit loads of money when you drive off without paying.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:23 pm / quote |
Jacob6293 :
kid rock is a fag
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:24 pm / quote |
whitebluesboy :
I mean his music is kinda crappy but I actually like this guy's style.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:24 pm / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
pyritmann wrote:

Yeah the only reason he claims to steal music from other artist is because i bet if you looked at his ipod the only artist on there is kid rock. Most overrated rocker around.


He doesn't claim to steal music. You can't claim to read.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:24 pm / quote |
whitebluesboy :
I was also really gay for that sheryl crow duet for a while.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:26 pm / quote |
Tool_46n2 :
Yeah he has a LOT of room to talk after taking riffs and lyrics from sweet home alabama and using it in one of his songs. Maybe he got permission, but still that's so dumb that he would do that.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:27 pm / quote |
raymanbaracuda :
Tool_46n2 wrote:

Yeah he has a LOT of room to talk after taking riffs and lyrics from sweet home alabama and using it in one of his songs. Maybe he got permission, but still that's so dumb that he would do that.


Billy Powell played the piano for the song.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:30 pm / quote |
SimpleMan008 :
hmmmm... i think i might go do a B&E on kid rocks house today.....
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:32 pm / quote |
The Spoon :
He had some good points until the end of that article. Still, i give him respect for boycotting itunes
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:39 pm / quote |
roketsox23 :
TheBurningFish wrote:

As much as I don't like Kid Rock, this is about the most awesome thing a big artist has said on this subject, ever.


dude, so many big artists have given the same perspective on this, eg radiohead and NIN

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:39 pm / quote |
tim western :
ShaDoW0lf wrote:

dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.


Worst comparisons ever. You've forgotten that the petrol station gets its petrol from oil pumps, who aren't human. Yeah, that's right, Oil pumps don't pour their human lives,sweat,tears and dreams into their "oil", only to have it ripped from them unfairly by greedy oil tycoons to be sold at no benefit to the pump itself. Furthermore, oil pumps don't "pump" at live shows for personal fulfillment and merchandise selling. Your analogy is the worst kind of one-sided propaganda.
Personally, stealing what is stolen already isn't stealing at all, especially if you give it back in terms of tickets to a live show! Heck, that's like doing the police's job.


What? I'm not even sure I know what you're getting at. But the oil may come out of a pump but people are involved in the process of attaining crude oil and distilling it etc...

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:45 pm / quote |
freshtunes :
All Summer Long!!!!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:47 pm / quote |
TaKethel :
kid rock is now just copying lars, but lars kicks ass
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 01:53 pm / quote |
bananaboy :
Not a huge fan of his music, but after this article, I really like Kid Rock.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:16 pm / quote |
hendrixguitarx :
although kid rock's music sucks balls and he stole a metallica riff (sad but true), i gotta say he actually has done something cool now
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:20 pm / quote |
Roots_radical :
I don't see why everyones complaining that he steals stuff, every rapper samples and uses other music! I don't hear Jimi Hendrix being called a thief for stealing any Bob Dylan songs or anything.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:24 pm / quote |
habebe girl :
I agree that things need to be fixed in the area of digital music but advocating stealing just b/c someone is already rich (be it artists or oil companies) is just a dumb thing to say.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:33 pm / quote |
Neon D-von :
seankellyultgtr wrote:

Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

haha yea


lolz I can't stand that stupid one with the riff from Sweet Home Alabama!... What a freakin' noob. Opens his mouth without really thinking what he's saying...I hope he gets his mansion broken into and some serious stuff jacked

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:37 pm / quote |
nevereverever :
DeadIdentity81 :
Kid Rock is one of the most gifted musicians out there. He samples the songs with the artists permission and then sings his own lyrics over it. That is not stealing. Stealing is when you take something without the person knowing. Rock bands dont make a living on cd sales they make a living playing to 1000's of people..
people can know if their possesions are being stolen u dumb f@$!

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:49 pm / quote |
0h The Horror :
Kid Rock is a ****in joke.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 02:55 pm / quote |
Kapalen :
So he's pissed at his label that he voluntarily joined? What an idiot. Also, as has been mentioned, he steals music constantly, and then profits from it, by saying it's his cause he wrote lyrics about bein' a gangster or whatever and put it over the riff from whole lotta love. Cause it's not the music man, it's the words.

And what was that crap about stealing what's stolen isn't stealing? Morons. Anyone who tries to justify ilegal downloading is straightup a moron.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:03 pm / quote |
Kapalen :
Neon D-von wrote:

seankellyultgtr wrote:

Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

haha yea

lolz I can't stand that stupid one with the riff from Sweet Home Alabama!... What a freakin' noob. Opens his mouth without really thinking what he's saying...I hope he gets his mansion broken into and some serious stuff jacked


Don't forget he stole Zevon's Werewolves of London for that one too.

oh yeah, what about bands that don't play in front of thousands of people, what if they play in front of tens of people, is it ok to steal their stuff?
Roots_radical wrote:

I don't see why everyones complaining that he steals stuff, every rapper samples and uses other music! I don't hear Jimi Hendrix being called a thief for stealing any Bob Dylan songs or anything.


That's called a cover silly. A cover that Bob Dylan was very honored by. You're right, every rapper does steal, that's why I'm complaining. I'm not isolating him.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:07 pm / quote |
TheFallen1328 :
That's good. Downloading it illegally would be the only valid reason to ever download his music.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:08 pm / quote |
GR1ZZL3Y GU1TAR :
I think file sharing should be allowed. But for a price. I use Limewire, but i paid the $18.99 to get Pro.Someone should make an ultimate file sharing program that u pay like $20.00 to get but get unlimited downloads and it be LEGAL! I mean, on Limewire, SOMEONE bought the music somewhere, and is just sharing it with everyone else. If I was in a huge band and saw tha I had over a million downloads on Limewire, I'd be satisfied because that ment that I'd have over a million people wanting to listen to my music, plus the million that already bought my cd. That'd satisfy me. The government should just legallize file sharing because they can't take everyone down, it will last forever and we will always find a way to do it. Thank God there is a big artist like Kid Rock who understands us.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:18 pm / quote |
RockInPeaceDime :
Loving the artists who tell people to download their music if they're going to do illegal downloading. And he's quite right that the artists don't see hardly a very small fraction of what they really make. Although I don't care for Kid Rock I think more artists need to step up and tell the companies to adapt or shut up...and also give them at least 1/8 of the profit they bring in for those labels.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |
lukephillips000 :
God opinions can be annoying.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:23 pm / quote |
GuitarSymphony :
Yea!
Hey everyone!
Let's go steal gas now!
Not like that raises gas prices or anything...

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:25 pm / quote |
kennyvspenny :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?
yeah that new song has werewolves of london AND sweet home alabama.

i get what he's saying though.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:26 pm / quote |
gusynet :
Kid Rock cracks me up...
French Cries...
"How 'bout a Wine-eken!" lol classic

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:27 pm / quote |
whitestrat279 :
To the guy who said you should just steal oil too, you should. The oil companies are stealing from you too. But that's not what this article is about.

I think Kid Rock hit the nail on the head here. Especially on Apple. Its good if you want one song, so that's a good idea. But when you buy a whole album, it's the same price as it is in the store. And that is without the booklet with the art and lyrics. A download is also missing the physical CD itself, so that's why when I buy an album, I get the real thing.

Good for him that he said this and standing up against what his label tells him what to say.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:31 pm / quote |
cakeandpiemofo :
Well im for sure gonna listen to Kid Rock.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:35 pm / quote |
l)ragonForce :
umm the record company shouldnt recieve any money from online downloads.. its not like they have anywork they have to do to put it on the internet
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 03:49 pm / quote |
DimebagRob :
he stole sad but true.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:05 pm / quote |
Emo_Guitars :
I dont care if he acts like the "Rock Star *******" but what he seems to be forgeting is that he has to make good listenable music to act that way .. ****ing cracker
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:06 pm / quote |
adam.on.fire :
hahahah he's so right
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:36 pm / quote |
plucky duck :
raymanbaracuda wrote:

That is sarcasm right? Using guitar riffs someone else wrote in a song about your summers singing "Sweet Home Alabama" when you in fact live in Michigan =/= gifted musician.


Are you being sarcastic when you judge an artist off of one song? It's not a sample either. It's called a Mash.

You make a mash-up if you're a DJ or a cover band, if you're a professional musician/songwriter it's poor form (at least).

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:37 pm / quote |
rich420 :
l)ragonForce wrote:

umm the record company shouldnt recieve any money from online downloads.. its not like they have anywork they have to do to put it on the internet


Yeah but they are the ones who pay for the recording and producing of the songs that make up the album.

They still suck though.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:39 pm / quote |
prsrulz91 :
Kapalen wrote:

So he's pissed at his label that he voluntarily joined? What an idiot. Also, as has been mentioned, he steals music constantly, and then profits from it, by saying it's his cause he wrote lyrics about bein' a gangster or whatever and put it over the riff from whole lotta love. Cause it's not the music man, it's the words.

And what was that crap about stealing what's stolen isn't stealing? Morons. Anyone who tries to justify ilegal downloading is straightup a moron.


Ok so where do u stand on this issue then considering u've undermined every other argument here

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:40 pm / quote |
Noitalevier :
Yea, we listen to him and steal music, next thing you know the FBI is right in front of your door, and will he defend you in court? No. But anyways, yay piracy!
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:41 pm / quote |
jshizznit :
Whoa, I thought he got lost in the desert
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:43 pm / quote |
South-of-Heaven :
jshizznit wrote:

Whoa, I thought he got lost in the desert

lol, internet

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:47 pm / quote |
foofighter4ever :
Roots_radical wrote:

I don't see why everyones complaining that he steals stuff, every rapper samples and uses other music! I don't hear Jimi Hendrix being called a thief for stealing any Bob Dylan songs or anything.


nobody here has dismissed rappers for this first of all. and jimi hendrix didnt take the music from all along the watchtower and then write different words over it and then claim it his own. there is a huge difference

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:51 pm / quote |
3l3phant :
\m/Angus\m/ wrote:

At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.


are you stupid? what kind of balls does that take to say "yeah, go ahead, steal music". none whatsoever? remember, folks, his tongue is firmly in his cheek on this one

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 04:53 pm / quote |
\m/Angus\m/ :
3l3phant wrote:

\m/Angus\m/ wrote:

At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.

are you stupid? what kind of balls does that take to say "yeah, go ahead, steal music". none whatsoever? remember, folks, his tongue is firmly in his cheek on this one


im not stupid, if you would actually take the time to sit down and listen to some of his music you guys might actually like it, instead you all base your opinions off of his singles, not the albums themselves. I say he has balls cause he could care less if he sells records or not, that he would rather the music be out there and people listen to it. he isnt worried about the money from records obviously and that is why he has balls.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:10 pm / quote |
bajasg :
It doesnt matter where you get the music youre getting ripped off. Putting it online costs them almost nothing and the same with CDs. Youre just paying for the initial recording, the rest is profit.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:22 pm / quote |
fr33t0m :
**** kid rock, noone wants to hear from a fake mainstream poser
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:28 pm / quote |
GIBSONroks6167 :
roketsox23 wrote:

TheBurningFish wrote:

As much as I don't like Kid Rock, this is about the most awesome thing a big artist has said on this subject, ever.

dude, so many big artists have given the same perspective on this, eg radiohead and NIN



yeah isnt that why the new NIN album was free?

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:30 pm / quote |
Erik_Aero :
Lol, he thinks people are listening to his music.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:36 pm / quote |
AngryGoldfish :
I didn't want to here from him either, but this seems like a true "I don't give a shit as long I play music and people here it" attitude, which I fully respect. Go Mr. Rock.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:36 pm / quote |
darkstar2466 :
I wouldn't steal Kid Rock's music if you put it on a silver platter and force-fed it to me.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:41 pm / quote |
snapneck :
seankellyultgtr wrote:

Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

haha yea


hahahaha what a pud

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:52 pm / quote |
original=punk :
Henry rollins already said to steal music.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 05:53 pm / quote |
Red33 :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


Indeed, the irony is strong within this article.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:02 pm / quote |
shenanigans :
Consesus - Kid Rock is a tool, but what he says here is the truth.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:04 pm / quote |
jesuswalked2008 :
hahahahaha i agreee.....
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Weiss_xc :
This has probably already been said but stealing gas hurts the stations more than the oil companies. If you really wanted to do something constructive, steal a few barrels fron the oil rigs. Might be a bit more complicated though
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:13 pm / quote |
guitaringnathan :
I kinda agree with him on everything except about stealing oil. Stealing music really will take money from record companies not really artist especially with people going to see the live shows. For instance my friend downloaded illegally 3 songs for a band and now he is gonna go see the concert.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:18 pm / quote |
zapatista89 :
dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.


name the other forms of art you have to pay for to view

cinema isn't art btw

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 06:45 pm / quote |
Kapalen :
prsrulz91 wrote:

Kapalen wrote:

So he's pissed at his label that he voluntarily joined? What an idiot. Also, as has been mentioned, he steals music constantly, and then profits from it, by saying it's his cause he wrote lyrics about bein' a gangster or whatever and put it over the riff from whole lotta love. Cause it's not the music man, it's the words.

And what was that crap about stealing what's stolen isn't stealing? Morons. Anyone who tries to justify ilegal downloading is straightup a moron.

Ok so where do u stand on this issue then considering u've undermined every other argument here


If you want to listen to music, either make it (as I know most of us are capable of this) or buy the cd. If the artist wants to sell thru a major label and I want to hear them, I'll buy the cd.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:00 pm / quote |
Sp00nman94 :
He's a hypocrite; how is stealing song IDEAS any different? Like i said on another article, if Warren Zevon and Ronny Van Zant heard "All Summer Long" they'd turn over in their graves.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:12 pm / quote |
GREENWARRI0R :
I download then buy, if I like it enough. If i dont like it, i just delete and move on
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:13 pm / quote |
noodles_wazaman :
oil companies aren't actually rorting people like they used to. OPEC means you are paying the salaries of people in Qatar, and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia cause they get like 75% of the cash from crude oil for: doing absolutely nothing. Oil companies are the ones who drill it, refine it, ship it, distribute it, and the price keeps rising from massive demand, not greed.

unless you are calling chinese and indians greedy for wanting what we have had for over 100 years.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:18 pm / quote |
stephen_rettie :
thats a horrible argument. what a retard, and he didnt play download
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:30 pm / quote |
leleva :
zapatista89 wrote:

dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.

name the other forms of art you have to pay for to view

cinema isn't art btw

some art museums you do have to pay to get into,even though its for just up keep you do have to pay

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:31 pm / quote |
ReiDSaN :
zapatista89 wrote:

dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.

name the other forms of art you have to pay for to view

cinema isn't art btw


Pornography!

How is he saying he's rich and that record companies don't give him enough at the same time, anyway? Something doesn't add up here. I think perhaps he's after the headlines, and you can always get that by saying pointless controversial things.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:35 pm / quote |
uvq :
noodles_wazaman wrote:

oil companies aren't actually rorting people like they used to. OPEC means you are paying the salaries of people in Qatar, and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia cause they get like 75% of the cash from crude oil for: doing absolutely nothing. Oil companies are the ones who drill it, refine it, ship it, distribute it, and the price keeps rising from massive demand, not greed.

unless you are calling chinese and indians greedy for wanting what we have had for over 100 years.


but in england, the government are greedy and take all of our money, so they can all furnish their second homes...

which is totally unfair.

normal people dont even have second homes.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:42 pm / quote |
Godsmack_IV :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


lol that's what I thought this article was about.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 07:45 pm / quote |
druz15_UG :
while i hate his new song, he has a point
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 08:37 pm / quote |
guitargod21136 :
\m/Angus\m/ wrote:

Man kid rock is the shit. I don't care what you guys say, he is one of the only true new "rockers" around. Everyone else has there head up metal and pop punks ass. At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.


12 year old kids in there parents basements say you should "steal it"

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 08:43 pm / quote |
Metal_Militia15 :
Funny how TorrentFreak.com are the ones who reported this.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:05 pm / quote |
Chris B :
Soadfan8 wrote:

Powerpro wrote:

I thought Kid Rock was a cover band.

he has as much lyrical talent as one

"bowwitta bow wi bang da dang diggy diggy diggy set the boogie set up jump the boggie"



I used to like that song, but actually reading the lyrics right there and thinking about it, made me laugh so hard..

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Dragon Master :
I think that personally, the money should be given to the artists that want to be given money for what they make. CDs should be bought more often.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:31 pm / quote |
Dragon Master :
Poison is one band that is suffering from their royalties being kept from them. In a way, downloading is only good for indie and underground bands that want money, not major bands. If anything, the Andy Warhol nature of it is that bands are becoming more of a marketable commodity than artists.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:41 pm / quote |
grungeisdead312 :
Trent Reznor is the one that originally said to "steal music" beccause fans were being charged too much
-_-
kid rock is terrible, I don't even consider him rock

Good day

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 09:50 pm / quote |
doompers7491 :
kid rock is ****ing amazing!! i loved him in concert
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:07 pm / quote |
jetfuel495 :
all star brawl. I can see it:

Kid rock vs gene simmons

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:30 pm / quote |
arsonite :
Bravo!!


POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:34 pm / quote |
DimeForever :
Like I need this douche to tell me to steal music? Sure, man. One question though,

Why do people still buy his crappy excuse for music?

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:34 pm / quote |
Flying Afros :
MooshMooshMarc wrote:

kid rock cant sing for shit and his music is sampled/ripped off.
talentless poser.

1st off, go screw yourself.

I don't really like Kid Rock, but for all the dbags here bashing him, he pretty successful and has a pretty broad range of musical styles. If you don't like his style, don't insult it.

To Kid Rock, I'm seeing you and Lynyrd Skynrd play in New Orleans in a few months and I'm really looking forward to it.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:52 pm / quote |
highwayone73 :
This has probobly already been said but f*** kid rock. I work for a towing company which also runs a gas station. Every time someone "drives off" it costs us a shitload of money. We make a profit of like two cents a gallon so if someone steals $60 worth of gas is costs us 3000 gallons to pay for it. That was a totally irresponsible thing for that over paid douche to say.
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 10:59 pm / quote |
DevilsDance76 :
getts182 wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa, wait, hold the phone....Kid Rock is still around?!


Kid Rock took a different path with his music of late. One of the last true performers to do so and do it well.
I'm not the biggest fan but well said Mr. Robert Ritchie

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:00 pm / quote |
DevilsDance76 :
and another comment...

Everyone is curious about the gas prices of late....take a look at the amount of tax the government is putting on every liter or gallon of gas.

Here in Ontario they are taxing about 20 cents a liter. Thats insane!!

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:02 pm / quote |
thedarkblues06 :
I think he's a talented musician who has a knack for seeing his own musical ideas play in the musical ideas of his predecessors/colleagues. 'All Summer Long' sounds awesome to me, and I can say that and like Werewolves of London and Sweet Home Alabama (considering I am from Birmingham, AL).

I don't really agree with his thinking here, I like his viewpoint, he just explains it in a kind of standoffish, promoting way. The way Radiohead and NIN do it is good.

And last I checked there is no law against sampling, it CAN and usually DOES bring ANOTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ANOTHER original light to it!!! Why can't people respect that? Fuck them. I like his take and for the bashers, go stfu and sell 24 million copies over YOUR lifetime, then maybe WE can call you douchebags.

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:32 pm / quote |
bmxsulli :
kid rock = the shit
POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:41 pm / quote |
identityxcrysis :
Is this considered criminal solicitation?




"With his tongue firmly in his cheek"
A little redundant, eh?

POSTED: 06/19/2008 - 11:49 pm / quote |
klaheto :
Kid rock is badss as ****! lol.
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 12:28 am / quote |
cosmic rocker :
I hate his music, but I like his style.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 12:58 am / quote |
guitargod21136 :
highwayone73 wrote:

This has probobly already been said but f*** kid rock. I work for a towing company which also runs a gas station. Every time someone "drives off" it costs us a shitload of money. We make a profit of like two cents a gallon so if someone steals $60 worth of gas is costs us 3000 gallons to pay for it. That was a totally irresponsible thing for that over paid douche to say.


Wise words my friend.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 01:09 am / quote |
guylee :
haha i love that guy. and itunes sucks...every person i know has constant problems with it.
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 01:26 am / quote |
James_Calalo :
thank you kid rock for letting me download your songs well I didn't download everything just my favorite tunes
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 01:34 am / quote |
RUSTDOGG666 :
Watch out we got another lars on the way with kid rock saying that its stealing by downloading his songs on the internet. ****ing tour dude thats where your making your money with those high priced tickets. don't give a **** if you don't make money off your cd's. touring and live shows makes up for that.
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 02:07 am / quote |
korn_dawg :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?

I was hoping so bad that this article would be about that, but alas, it was not

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 02:13 am / quote |
slash_015 :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


that's f-ckin' right!

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 05:03 am / quote |
blackfire1206 :
zapatista89 wrote:

dimebagsmygod wrote:

I think I may just go to the petrol station steal some petrol, hmm a car whilst I am at. Oh yea, and some sweets. Then I will going and rob a bank, hey I could even go steal Kid Rock's music.

name the other forms of art you have to pay for to view

cinema isn't art btw


you, are an idiot. cinema isnt art? thats why if you go to a school telemedia is considered an arts class? if your talking about block buster movies, i can see where your coming from. but if you have ever seen a symbolism piece? im a telemedia major, and theres a lot more going into one frame of a movie as there is in any painting. because you cant see the beauty in it doesnt mean its not there.

idiot.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 05:55 am / quote |
SerpentineVIVIV :
\m/Angus\m/ wrote:

Man kid rock is the shit. I don't care what you guys say, he is one of the only true new "rockers" around. Everyone else has there head up metal and pop punks ass. At least he has the balls to come out and say steal it.


Seriously, plenty of other TRUE talented musicians have had the balls to say that (radiohead, mike portnoy, etc.), so please don't think that Kid Rock is anything unique in the illegal downloading circle, he's just a rich a**hole who steals from other artists and then bitches that he's not getting enough money.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 06:06 am / quote |
ShaDoW0lf :
Kapalen wrote:

And what was that crap about stealing what's stolen isn't stealing? Morons. Anyone who tries to justify ilegal downloading is straightup a moron.


Anyone who supports a system well known to exploit everything and everyone it can unfairly for the benefit of a few major labels, especially through loan shark tactics, needs to be converted, or shot. ESPECIALLY when another system is available where labels are considered obsolete. Big album production in China and expensive physical advertising is phasing out. Thank you, internet.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 06:11 am / quote |
Mr.Garreth :
Okay Im not the biggest fan of Kid Rock but I must say he does have a point even if it was one could call a bit of a paradox.

The fact is that artists earn next to nothing off record sales. The greedy record execs get it all. Why do you think artists all try and eventually make there own record label? Most artists earn off live shows and merchandise. Thats why alot of people feel little guilt for downloading and artist are taking the stance of: "well as long as its getting listened to, thats good for us."

Its the record companies who are stressing.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 06:34 am / quote |
Nilpferdkoenig :
hendrixguitarx wrote:

although kid rock's music sucks balls and he stole a metallica riff (sad but true), i gotta say he actually has done something cool now


In his new song the defining riff is also "stolen" from the song Sweet Home Alabama. The song is more of a tribute though.

At least he cuts straight to the chase by saying that: "I'm rich, I don't have to steal"

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 06:49 am / quote |
sucay :


spending money on his music is a rip off itself


POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 06:56 am / quote |
jammin24 :
hes a wanker, but he raises some good points (y)
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 07:20 am / quote |
HeavyDT :
hes right though its like when you but a cd for say 10 buks the artist dosent even get a dollar out of it which is sad they get like 10 cents from each cd sold so yeah it still adds up to alot of money but come on
POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 07:24 am / quote |
DeadIdentity81 :
nevereverever wrote:

DeadIdentity81 :
Kid Rock is one of the most gifted musicians out there. He samples the songs with the artists permission and then sings his own lyrics over it. That is not stealing. Stealing is when you take something without the person knowing. Rock bands dont make a living on cd sales they make a living playing to 1000's of people..
people can know if their possesions are being stolen u dumb f@$!



Well being how ignorant you seem to be, if you come home and find your belongings stolen, did you know they were stolen before you got home. If someone steals your bike (seeming you talk like a child) they do it without you knowing.
GROW UP BEFORE YOU TRY AND SPEAK UP TO MY LEVEL!!

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 07:32 am / quote |
drumpat :
That's the spirit. Playing live should earn you money, not releasing albums.
Paying for CDs is like paying for a printout of a Dalí, Picasso, whatever.

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 07:34 am / quote |
jshwak :
thedarkblues06 :
I think he's a talented musician who has a knack for seeing his own musical ideas play in the musical ideas of his predecessors/colleagues. 'All Summer Long' sounds awesome to me, and I can say that and like Werewolves of London and Sweet Home Alabama (considering I am from Birmingham, AL).

I don't really agree with his thinking here, I like his viewpoint, he just explains it in a kind of standoffish, promoting way. The way Radiohead and NIN do it is good.

And last I checked there is no law against sampling, it CAN and usually DOES bring ANOTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ANOTHER original light to it!!! Why can't people respect that? Fuck them. I like his take and for the bashers, go stfu and sell 24 million copies over YOUR lifetime, then maybe WE can call you douchebags.


I hope you are saying that with Tongue Firmly in Cheek !!!

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 07:38 am / quote |
adamjowens :
And last I checked there is no law against sampling, it CAN and usually DOES bring ANOTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ANOTHER original light to it!!!
songs need to be 80% your orignal work, less than that, i.e. more samples, and u have to pay royalites

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 08:24 am / quote |
Sanitarium91 :
getts182 wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa, wait, hold the phone....Kid Rock is still around?!


OLOLOLOLOLOL!!

POSTED: 06/20/2008 - 09:04 am / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD :
Suav Nitebeest wrote:

Umm, doesn't Kid Rock steal from artists too, for his songs?


Haha, that made my day. His music was actually alright though. I have to agree on what he says though, if people are going to download it illegally thats one thing, but when the companys sell it online and then dont give fair share of money to the artist thats a giant middle finger to them.

POSTED: 06/24/2008 - 12:21 am / quote |
Smithsc :
Ha! I love it how he thinks he's some southern badass, when in fact he grew up in Detroit and hung out with rappers. His part in Joe Dirt was even more ridiculous, he thinks he a redneck all the way! Git r Done!
POSTED: 06/27/2008 - 09:23 pm / quote |
tmwtp :
that's right everyone. steal music. that way, all the bands that are good (as in, not someone like kid rock) will cease to exist, and we can all buy pop records instead, because whatever's on the radio is what will continue to make money.

...then again, that might mean kid rock will be gone. maybe this isn't such a bad plan after all.

POSTED: 06/29/2008 - 11:33 pm / quote |
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