Korn Call For BP Boycott

Korn will boycott BP products on their upcoming tour to protest against the company's failure to control their oil leak into the Gulf of Mexico which has resulted in the death of unknown amounts of organisms in the region.

And the band are encouraging their fans and other artists to follow their lead.

Frontman Jonathan Davis says: "The daily images are hard to watch. We need to do our part to let BP know there are consequences for causing something like this.

"The most costly their punishment, the most money they will spend to make sure disasters like this don't happen again. It's plain and simple capitalism."

The band have first-hand experience of the downside of the oil industry and have illustrated that in new track Oildale, which tells the story of a boy who wants to escape from a poverty-stricken town which has become the victim of a giant fossil fuel company.

Davis says: "It was one thing for us to grow up near such poverty. But the situation in the Gulf takes things to a whole new lever where people's lives and livelihoods are affected for ever."

BP's share value has plummeted after repeated attempts to stem the flow of oil failed. The company's Deepwater Horizon oil platform exploded and sank in April, killing 11 workers, and since then oil has been pouring into the Gulf of Mexico, with independent experts suggesting BP are being conservative about the scale of the leak.

BP says: "The company is not aware or any reason which justifies this share price movement."

Thanks for the report to RockRadio.

Comments

[mlukeroberts222]

Amen!!! I was hoping more people would call for the boycott of this spineless company. I won't even purchase cigarettes at a BP anymore after the tragedy that has occurred with the blasted spill.

[chrisdazzo]

Wow, what a progressive band. Uhhh, not. Another group trying to get some facetime via this whole BP fiasco. Stupid. Does Korn even know what BP stands for? Ahahahaha.

[BushMasterFlex]

im not really for the whole activist thing but im glad someone with a big name such as KoRn is doing somthing about this

[BushMasterFlex]

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, what a progressive band. Uhhh, not. Another group trying to get some facetime via this whole BP fiasco. Stupid. Does Korn even know what BP stands for? Ahahahaha.

BOSTON PIZZA!!

[im not mental]

bravo korn

[illmental]

any body wanna bet on where they fill their tours buses at?

[MegaRockFace]

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

[jerm138]

Because finger-pointing and punishing the guilty takes precedence over solving the problem at hand.

[Voldragon]

Bypass BP? Guess they'll have to start making their own fuel then, out of....corn.

I'm sorry *leaves the thread*

[Hawat]

What, exactly, does this accomplish? bp is done for over this whole thing whether you boycott or not. I smell publicity stunt!! I guess we're going to have to listen to Mr. Davis rant about it in between songs too. Just play the songs, man.

[jerm138]

MegaRockFaceIt was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

I agree. It's like the idiots who protest the building of new power plants, but won't turn off their 60" plasmas when they leave the room.

[metalxsymphony]

MegaRockFace wrote:

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

The problem with, "doing their job" is that they WEREN'T doing their job. THey weren't doing their job properly. I can understand neccessary evils, but cutting corners to squeeze out the most profit is wrong, and look where it ended up? BP cut costs in drilling and thats why the explosion happened, and they need to take responsibility.

[Lion_Slicer]

MegaRockFace wrote:

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

They weren't doing their job. When the incident occurred, they tried to keep other parties away from investigating, and when that failed it was discovered that in regards to the safety precautions in place, the original schematics did not match what was actually built down there, and the redundant system was compromised by a simple dead battery. In other words, they took shortcuts to save money that put the Deepwater Horizon at risk.

In addition, they've flat-out lied since the beginning of this disaster about how much oil was leaking--about 4 times as much as they had claimed. And their recovery efforts are amazingly half-assed, with CEO Tony Hayward coming off as a pure dick: he actually said "I want my life back," when 11 people died because of mistakes made under his leadership, and thousands of fishing-based careers (and more) will be devastated forever.

I work at an engineering company, and the kind of shit BP is in here would get people fired, sued, and criminally prosecuted. Everyone should do some research on their own about this, even starting with Wikipedia or BBC.

And yes, I realize that the demand for oil is such that BP can't really be faulted for drilling there in the first place, only for their literally earth-shattering incompetence in preventing and recovering from the spill. Also, nearly every other major oil company in the US--Exxon, Shell, Citgo, etc. is as bad or worse, so if you're a boycotter, filling up is just the lesser of two (or a dozen) evils.

[Havok88]

Well if we are supposed to boycot tragedies why are people still listening to Korn?

[EpiExplorer]

Voldragon wrote:

Bypass BP? Guess they'll have to start making their own fuel then, out of....corn.

I'm sorry *leaves the thread*

Good move, hurry it up. Lulz.

[mreed1990]

If this happen to an American company in the English channel it could have started a war.....America needs to outlaw BP from ever doing business over here again.

[Yoorai]

Boycott won't solve anything.

[Lion_Slicer]

If you want to know more...

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/06/07/boycott-bp.htm l

There's an article about the futility of boycotting BP and not the other gas giants. However, they don't mention Sunoco stations, one of which is my new regular.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10274260.stm

And there's an article about BP and how well they've been doing their job even BEFORE the spill.

[packman7996]

thank god for korn! one of my favorite bands might save the gulf, this is big news.

[SlipknotRule93]

Oh God. I know they probably have a point, but I really hate it when politics gets into music. Why can't people write songs about stuff anymore? You know, the Macc Lads, albeit one of the most offensive bands around, really only wrote songs about drinking beer and having sex. That's normal stuff, not some political subtext that ruins a perfectly good song otherwise.

[a7xb4d]

Korn is freakin' awesome!!!! At least someone is deciding to do something about this.

[Czily]

And the band are encouraging their fans and other artists to follow their lead.

haha, nice link there

[Its So Easy]

Lion_Slicer is the only one talking any sense, he's exactly right. This spill is just another reason to use Nuclear Energy

On topic I don't see the point in doing this, its not really gonna do anything. But Korn can do whatever Korn wants to do.

[Casterillo]

Yoorai wrote:

Boycott won't solve anything.

It doesn't but, do you actually want to give money to people responsible for the largest environmental disaster in the history of the WORLD! People who are already rich who are dumb asses. I sure as hell I won't be stopping at any BP gas stations anytime soon. If you care about the Earth then you should understand.

[geetar_alex]

All the saftey precautions that BP took were okayed by the American government before the spill. so when it goes wrong BP get the blame when even when Transocean are the owners of the rig.

also what about all the other petrol stations that BP supply

[JY-Rasputin]

Hmmm, I'm actually going to work at a BP soon. So yeah I don't really care about this boycot. as long as I can make some money. I understand their arguments though.

[Casterillo]

geetar_alex wrote:

All the saftey precautions that BP took were okayed by the American government before the spill. so when it goes wrong BP get the blame when even when Transocean are the owners of the rig.

also what about all the other petrol stations that BP supply

You make a point, its not only BP. Its the ignorance of the people who were in control of the whole operation. Their poor decisions are likely to affect us greatly in the future.

[4stringedMetal]

why do people not like music w/ politics? Rage, System, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Muse, Black sabbath (war pigs), Bob Marley, Jurassic 5, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Public Enemy, & Serj Tankian are all Artist that at least at some point put political lyrics into their songs, and they ****ing rock.

[lotsofbandrock]

MegaRockFace wrote:

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

well theyre not boycotting oil, theyre boycotting BP.

[JimBonJovi]

Good on them.

[drydent2]

whys everyone blame bp its not like they wanted the leak to happen, and oils a natural substance thats been around for thousands of years, and small oil leaks have happened for years, natures found out ways of sorting the problem out all by itself.

[hardrocker64]

well, I own and operate 15 gas stations and they happen to be branded BP. not my fault what happened. I guess I will just boycott their concert in August. WTF? anyone who wants to boycott should sell their stock interest in BP or dont invest. You just hurt the small business man like me. BP generates billions of dollars every quarter. You wont hurt them. Thanks Corn. wont buy your new new CD either. LMAOOOOO

[CaMacKid]

Some here were asking what Korn fuels their buses with. I remember reading a few years back during their Family Values tour they had their buses running on their own biofuel they called Korntastic. So it seems with this news they aren't doing it for publicity. It's something they already had been supportive of.

In my personal views, I heard they were lazy with safety issues and such. I think that is enough for me to not like this company. This company will become an example that we need changes in what we use for energy.

[espChris93]

Havok88 wrote:

Well if we are supposed to boycot tragedies why are people still listening to Korn?

hahaha +1

and as people have said the world as a whole (americans especially) need to stop being outright hypocrites and start using different energy sources. Thats like having a bad drug habbit then when it gets out of control you blame your dealer and go to the next corner for the same service with a different face

[blenk]

mreed1990 wrote:

If this happen to an American company in the English channel it could have started a war.....America needs to outlaw BP from ever doing business over here again.

us brits arnt the ones tht start pointless wars in oil rich places

[hardrocker64]

oh yea, and you can boycott plastic bottles, lipstick ,painkillers, and if you do your reasearch, their products are in everything. also they sell unbranded fuel so your costco, sheets, kangaroo gas, you may be buying their product too.....geeeeze some people are truely idiots to what reality is.

[Charlie4]

Fight the super corporations such as Behemoth Petrol so that they know they are not above the law. : m:

[Charlie4]

Smiley fail.

[zeek7pc]

Why jump on BP? What about the other companies involved in this? It's just BP's lease, all the failing equipment was built/operated by someone else. Oh, that's right, they have the biggest pockets and the media is out for them. Quit watching the news.....

[Lord_Doku]

BP = British Petrol = British.
Korn = Popular American Metal Band = American.

Korn bashing BP = America insulting Brittain.

Just stating...

[crazysam23_Atax]

I was considering buying their new album. Now I prolly won't. Screw that; boycotting BP will not do anything but cause problems.

[new_age_reject]

zeek7pc wrote:

Why jump on BP? What about the other companies involved in this? It's just BP's lease, all the failing equipment was built/operated by someone else. Oh, that's right, they have the biggest pockets and the media is out for them. Quit watching the news.....

Whilst that is true, the front of the blame has to lie on BP. They were the ones that chose to to use the wrong, inadequate equipment.
It's kind of like a hierarchy of blame with BP at the top.
Plus oil companies are asshats anyway

[adambauman31]

lots of typos

[crazysam23_Atax]

Also, wtf is up with the damn typos? UG, you're killing me!

[LegsOnEarth]

Why do people immediately assume Korn are riding on some trend? It sounds like a genuine call to boycott. I dont even like the band but their message is right, whether you think they are genuine about it or not.

[Mainer]

Havok88 wrote:

Well if we are supposed to boycot tragedies why are people still listening to Korn?

*slaps the piss out of Havok88*

[MrFlibble]

Okay then. It's not actually BP's fault (a rig exploded, and BP just so happen to be the majority owner of that rig), but whatever. I love how America first latched on to BP, then Britain, now it's back to blaming BP. The fact that this could have happened to absolutely any rig in the world at any time and BP had effectively nothing to do with it seems to have passed America by...

[r0ckth3d34n]

this is wrong. It's not BP's fault a rig exploded, and its not the owners of those gas station's fault either.

There's no reason to boycott BP because of what happened. It's not like oil doesn't come from the ocean, either. It's natural for oil to come out of the ocean.

This makes me dislike Korn even more. You are fools, and everyone who is choosing to boycott BP are fools.

[link no1]

MegaRockFace wrote:

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

they wernt doing there job, thats why there was a spill retard
and pretty much, it is hypocritacle "im not using your oil", but if alot of people didnt for even a day, BP would lose so much money that its worth them doing there job properly for once

[K!!LsWiTcH]

espChris93 wrote:

Havok88 wrote:

Well if we are supposed to boycot tragedies why are people still listening to Korn?

hahaha +1

and as people have said the world as a whole (americans especially) need to stop being outright hypocrites and start using different energy sources. Thats like having a bad drug habbit then when it gets out of control you blame your dealer and go to the next corner for the same service with a different face

yes.. because every country but america uses solely energy sources alternative to fossil fuels...**** you

[iro-bot31]

quote]r0ckth3d34n wrote:

this is wrong. It's not BP's fault a rig exploded, and its not the owners of those gas station's fault either.

There's no reason to boycott BP because of what happened. It's not like oil doesn't come from the ocean, either. It's natural for oil to come out of the ocean.

This makes me dislike Korn even more. You are fools, and everyone who is choosing to boycott BP are fools.[/quote]

This wasn't solely BP's responsibility, but something does need to be done about them. OSHA has fined BP 760 times; the next highest are Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips with 8 fines each. I agree that boycotting will not really do anything, but anyone who thinks BP is a good and safe company needs to pull their heads out of their asses. Source below.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-has-been-fined-b y-osha-760-times-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6

[rkp1992]

i think bp should be punished for their mistake but if bp is not making money then they're not going to be able to fix the leak. but honestly this leak has gone on for far to long someone needs to put an end to this

[Kleck]

Why are we trying the same failed and outdated methods used when the IXTOC spilled in 1979? It didn't work before then, it won't now.

In 1979, there was an oil spill in the Gulf, and after 9-10 months, they finally sealed it by drilling two relief wells, wells designed to relieve pressure from the main leak, making it easier to plug.

Seriously, I don't mean to push MSNBC's political views or anything, but YouTube the Rachel Maddow show's take on that disaster. The similarities between then and now are sickening.

[homebrew1709]

Hooray! Korn is here to dave the day!.....Jonathan Davis is a tool. He should stick to crying about his f'ed up childhood and quit trying to be Bono lol!

[CaMacKid]

homebrew1709 wrote:

Hooray! Korn is here to dave the day!.....Jonathan Davis is a tool. He should stick to crying about his f'ed up childhood and quit trying to be Bono lol!

Quit insulting people.

[Hildesheimer]

So four people boycott BP? Cool. BP will still make 240+ billion revenue, so what's the point? Korn got any new album coming out the next days?

[Dynamo11]

Don't be stupid, BP makes its billions off companies and governments, not petrol stations

[Stuntaxe]

I am seriously surprised by some of the ignorance and utter stupidity on Ultimate Guitar.

[whatadrag]

If people are going to start boycotting BP, their profits are obviously going to drop. This means if their boycott "works", where is BP going to get the money to do anything about this?

[C1osur3]

Voldragon wrote:

Bypass BP? Guess they'll have to start making their own fuel then, out of....corn.

I'm sorry *leaves the thread*

Lulz. Good to see a sense of humor...as dry as that was.

[<TsC>]

drydent2 :
whys everyone blame bp its not like they wanted the leak to happen, and oils a natural substance thats been around for thousands of years, and small oil leaks have happened for years, natures found out ways of sorting the problem out all by itself.

Are you really that ****ing retarded? Wow.

[strat0blaster]

If people want to boycott, stop driving and using products which will affect BP. The reason we're in this mess is because of peoples' NEED to rely on a car for everything. If there wasn't such demand, the supply wouldn't be so tremendous. That's how business works - if there's not high demand, a product won't sell.

Aside from all that, boycotting something once it's already done the worst is useless. You should all have been considering the consequences of being so reliant on external sources from the start, not condeming someone else once it gets bad.

[SlipknotRule93]

4stringedMetal wrote:

why do people not like music w/ politics? Rage, System, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Muse, Black sabbath (war pigs), Bob Marley, Jurassic 5, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Public Enemy, & Serj Tankian are all Artist that at least at some point put political lyrics into their songs, and they ****ing rock.

And this is what annoys me. I love SOAD and Sabbath, I can ignore the politics in Sabbath because if it's there it's a lot more subtle, but I'd be listening to a great SOAD song with great riffs and everthing and be enjoying. The moment I hear him mention the war or anything political I immediately think 'Oh shut up!' I couldn't care less for rage, or a lot of the other bands there, but it really annoys me. Why can't songs just be about things people do normally? Why've they always got to be making some sort of statement or some shit like that? Most of the time you can't understand what they're saying, so what's the point?

[demondown666]

isnt everybody already doing this? big deal if they are

[metallicbass23]

MegaRockFace wrote:

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

You are obviously ignorant. BP is a Britain based company, our biggest import is from Canada and Saudi Arabia. Our biggest companies here use oil from these imports. gas prices won't go up from the oil spill because our companies aren't affected. Korn jumping on this bandwagon will lead more people to boycott a company that is taking their time trying to do their job.

[Zayrank]

Voldragon wrote:

Bypass BP? Guess they'll have to start making their own fuel then, out of....corn.

I'm sorry *leaves the thread*

That deserves worlds biggest Pun award!
that made me laugh

[prscustomse24]

this it freakin stupip, it was an accident BP didnt do this on purpose,they did have sensors and saftey procautions, the explosion was to fast to stop it, i dont agree with them not doing much to stop it but in their defence, with the crappy and currupt government that we have, there afraid of making another mistake and getting sued and lawsuits against them!!!! STUPID LAWYERS!!!!

[andrewjp123]

uhh wtf? It's not like BP wants the keep pumping oil into the ocean. This is the stupidest thing i've read all day.

[kalamari]

To boycott BP you'd need to boycott ALL fuels as oil companies swap and trade their oil before and after it is refined into petrol, diesel etc. You'd also need to boycott all plastics such as Coca Cola bottles which are produced from oil that companies such as BP refine. It's very difficult to really boycott any one company when it comes to oil.

[Burgery]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

4stringedMetal wrote:

why do people not like music w/ politics? Rage, System, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Muse, Black sabbath (war pigs), Bob Marley, Jurassic 5, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Public Enemy, & Serj Tankian are all Artist that at least at some point put political lyrics into their songs, and they ****ing rock.

And this is what annoys me. I love SOAD and Sabbath, I can ignore the politics in Sabbath because if it's there it's a lot more subtle, but I'd be listening to a great SOAD song with great riffs and everthing and be enjoying. The moment I hear him mention the war or anything political I immediately think 'Oh shut up!' I couldn't care less for rage, or a lot of the other bands there, but it really annoys me. Why can't songs just be about things people do normally? Why've they always got to be making some sort of statement or some shit like that? Most of the time you can't understand what they're saying, so what's the point?

I, for one, really like SOAD for their lyrics, so it's all opinions...

[Andy2k64]

mlukeroberts222 wrote:

Amen!!! I was hoping more people would call for the boycott of this spineless company. I won't even purchase cigarettes at a BP anymore after the tragedy that has occurred with the blasted spill.

you still buy their gas...like most people. a boycott of this calibre would be pretty tough as a lot of people dont realise how much is made from oil. you gonna boycott plastic?

[Teej212]

packman7996 wrote:

thank god for korn! one of my favorite bands might save the gulf, this is big news.

i highly doubt korn will have much to do with the stopping of this disaster. i dont think that korn's boycott is on the top of BP's priority, therefore i doubt they give a flying ****.

[Zucchinios]

zeek7pc wrote:

Why jump on BP? What about the other companies involved in this? It's just BP's lease, all the failing equipment was built/operated by someone else. Oh, that's right, they have the biggest pockets and the media is out for them. Quit watching the news.....

Perhaps the only sensible comment on this article.

[Disposable-Hero]

Yeah that's right, don't support them to try and fix it... smash them down and enjoy the extortionate increase in gas price that'll follow.

[axeslash]

It's a good thing that Korn's fans are supporting their boycott by all being too young to drive a car.

[jhart08]

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, what a progressive band. Uhhh, not. Another group trying to get some facetime via this whole BP fiasco. Stupid. Does Korn even know what BP stands for? Ahahahaha.

BEER PONG!!!!!

[Hawat]

[/quote]

andrewjp123 wrote:

uhh wtf? It's not like BP wants the keep pumping oil into the ocean. This is the stupidest thing i've read all day.

+ 1

By the way, I thought bp officially changed their name to "Beyond Petroleum" a long time ago. This British vs. America bullsh!t that is surfacing is retarded. Focus more energy on trying to solve the problem and less on pointing fingers.

[jesse1994]

I think there are better ways to combat BP than boycotting. Like sue the shit outta there asses

[Hawat]

and one more thing: this whole Korn boycott would have been much more relevant like a month ago. They should be more worried about all that fret noise coming from Fieldy. jk, jk.

[dakota75]

i agree that BP needs to pay for their damages to the earth. however boycotting them is not the answer. if you boycott BP they lose all money and therefore they cannot buy things to help fix the problem. i think obama needs to tell BP to get out of there and let china take care of it because they have had oil spills that deep under the ocean before and they know how to fix the problem. china has offered BP to fix it for them and BP has refused all outside help. obama needs to go to obama and say "your out. china will take care of this and we'll give you the bill"

[dakota75]

btw. you mean to tell me ours and there armed forces (particularly the navy) cannot figure out how to go down that far into the water?? im sure they could figure out how to if they haven't already done it. granted i know they are for the nations protection but they are also there to help us with problems other than wars.

[dakota75]

btw a man working in a BP gas station has nothing to with the spill. but we hurt him if we boycott

[Its So Easy]

dakota75 wrote:

btw a man working in a BP gas station has nothing to with the spill. but we hurt him if we boycott

Thanks for making this comment, I have been waiting for someone to say this. BP Will still make billions of dollars.

[dakota75]

if so called "environmental groups" would let oil companies drill closer to land we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

[windexforlife]

well thanks corn... now my dad might loose is electronic engineer job at BP =/

now i will boycott corn.... oh wait don't have to, they suck already.lol

[ExOblivione]

"The most costly their punishment, the most money they will spend to make sure disasters like this don't happen again. It's plain and simple capitalism."
Wrong. Their stocks are dropping every day. A boycott will hurt them more. Its actually very likely that they could go bankrupt now. And when that happens, plenty of people will lose their jobs, who had nothing to do with this. And, when they go under, how much money do they have to spend on cleaning up the spill? None. Who has to take care of it? The American government. Who pays for that? Taxpayers. So, go ahead and boycott as long as you're well aware that you're going to hurt people who have nothing to do with this. And, anyway, has BP not done everything they can to stop it? I love the news clip where the BP exec asks if they've not done everything the government requested, and the congressman was silent. Even the company cannot be blamed because they weren't doing anything out of the ordinary by drilling, they're just a sad victim of an unfortunate tragedy. If you use anything that uses oil, you're no less at fault than the company. If you purchase products that were shipped using oil, you are no less at fault. So go ahead and boycott, you'll solve nothing.

[dakota75]

Davis says: "It was one thing for us to grow up near such poverty. But the situation in the Gulf takes things to a whole new lever where people's lives and livelihoods are affected for ever."
i agree with JD there. but what he doesn't realize is a boycott will be ineffective. BP wont care. they are still gonna make loads of money. a boycott here would just mean they would have to let go of there american workers, especially on rigs. which also effects peoples lives. not only one either. those men and women on the rigs may have families and it could effect there day to day lives while he/she finds a new job and with companies figuring out they can do the same amount of work with less money being spent. so they may decide to keep there number of employees down and save money all together. basically the whole world is run on human greed

[dakota75]

jesse1994 wrote:

I think there are better ways to combat BP than boycotting. Like sue the shit outta there asses

and when you sue them how do you think they pay to fix the problem??

[dakota75]

simpler ways for you to fix the problem. you tell BP to get out of the oil spill, let china handle the problem, let BP pay for the whole thing

[Idiot Pineapple]

So...they're going to walk to their gigs now then?

[dakota75]

Idiot Pineapple wrote:

So...they're going to walk to their gigs now then?

who do you mean by they??

[GBcommander]

r0ckth3d34n wrote:

this is wrong. It's not BP's fault a rig exploded, and its not the owners of those gas station's fault either.

There's no reason to boycott BP because of what happened. It's not like oil doesn't come from the ocean, either. It's natural for oil to come out of the ocean.

This makes me dislike Korn even more. You are fools, and everyone who is choosing to boycott BP are fools.

Really? It's natural for oil to spill out in the ocean? Are you a moron? Also, BP is just as much to blame. Perhaps if they hadn't tried to cut corners in terms of safety, this could have been avoided. They just care about profit. They do not care about the Earth. Plain and simple.

[Fireballz 1077]

YES!!! Finally, a band boycotting BP! BP sucks,....they didn't follow any of the policies that they were supposed to in order to PREVENT the damn oil rig from exploding in the first place.

[Fireballz 1077]

GBcommander wrote:

r0ckth3d34n wrote:

this is wrong. It's not BP's fault a rig exploded, and its not the owners of those gas station's fault either.

There's no reason to boycott BP because of what happened. It's not like oil doesn't come from the ocean, either. It's natural for oil to come out of the ocean.

This makes me dislike Korn even more. You are fools, and everyone who is choosing to boycott BP are fools.


Really? It's natural for oil to spill out in the ocean? Are you a moron? Also, BP is just as much to blame. Perhaps if they hadn't tried to cut corners in terms of safety, this could have been avoided. They just care about profit. They do not care about the Earth. Plain and simple.

Amen brother! r0ckth3d34n, don't be stupid.

[dakota75]

Fireballz 1077 wrote:

YES!!! Finally, a band boycotting BP! BP sucks,....they didn't follow any of the policies that they were supposed to in order to PREVENT the damn oil rig from exploding in the first place.

what will boycotting do?? BP will still make billions of dollars, with our without you buying there gas. like i have said hundreds of times. let china handle the spill, they have the experience. obama needs to tell BP to get out of the water and give the problem to china while BP takes the bill. that in itself will cause BP to loose more money than a boycott

[MrFlibble]

Again: BP didn't 'cut corners'. The rig's management did. BP just happen to be the majority owners of it, they weren't running it.

Blaming BP for the oil spill is like shouting at John Mara when the New York Giants lose a game, while also forgetting that Steve Tisch exists. Or like when the media started blaming WWE when Chris Benoit lost his marbles and killed himself and his family, as if Vince McMahon hypnotised him to do it.

[dakota75]

i dont think people are nessacarily blaming them for the spill itself. people are blaming BP for refusing all outside help and being persistantley insuccesful in there attempts to contain the oil spill. but once again if the environmental groups let oil companies drill closer to shore (shallower water) none of this would have happened to this degree and all this trouble wouldn't have occurred and we would not be having this discussion

[HolyDiver1118]

I personally hope that BP goes bankrupt repairing (or trying to repair, a lot of damage done may not be able to be repaired sadly) and compensating everyone and everything negatively affected by this godd*** oil spill

Just putting that out there

I definitely support Korn for their efforts in trying to get actual results

Just putting

[vbmetal]

boycot Korn, they dont have a clue...just some punk *ss rock stars with nothing better to do.. they need to stay out of polotics..and do what they do and thats make music...

[vbmetal]

korn is a bunch of panty wastes...they suck..

[ZZZombieChomp]

drydent2 wrote:

whys everyone blame bp its not like they wanted the leak to happen, and oils a natural substance thats been around for thousands of years, and small oil leaks have happened for years, natures found out ways of sorting the problem out all by itself.

That's stupid. If you get a small cut and start losing a little blood, your body can handle it on its own. But if you slice your leg off and blood is pouring out of you, you're going to need help. There's only so much that "nature" can do, and even that would take time that the world quite frankly doesn't have at the moment.

[Nirvana00125]

I'm mad people are dissing korn even for this. Geez, whether you like them or not, this is a very good idea. BP is a bunch of money grubbing rejects who obviously have no clue how to do anything that requires more intelligence than a 5th grader.

And to the guy who said nature will resolve this... you're a failure.

[Uber Man]

well thats real smart, make BP run out of business so no one cleans up the mess.... BP is doing a fine job, people expect to much...

[Theeman0000]

Fucking Korn think their opinion matters.

[Matt420740]

Theeman0000 wrote:

Fucking Korn think their opinion matters.

This ^

[ironmanben]

I love how the blame is circulating here. We're blaming the government, BP, environmental groups, all oil companies in general, and the consumer. But my answer to who's fault it is? - ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[Bassin Fingers]

Oh man, I love the people using the argument that BP didn't want this to happen as an excuse. Oh excuse me, you're right. Intention is the issue here. The warden of the prison didn't WANT all of the convicts to escape and murder the people in the nearby town. He just didn't want to spend any money on putting guards at the walls to make sure that everything was safe. But it's not his fault.

[mitchgosche2011]

They cant boycott BP! They're still driving their cars fueled with the same fossil fuels that leaked from the BP oil rig. It was the people's demand for oil that put that oil rig in the place it was when the oil spilled. So when Korn boycotts all oil companies and stop driving cars or anything fueled with oil, then i'll join them. But u cant just boycott a company for doing their job

What does your car run on?

[illmental]

Havok88 wrote:

Well if we are supposed to boycot tragedies why are people still listening to Korn?

Best thing I've read all day! lol

[mitchgosche2011]

^ i personally like KoRn, but i can definitely see why some people wouldn't

[Soulgrind025]

This shit was staged man... something else for the ****ing government to get their greedy ass hands on to control it.

[radicaldookie]

ooze....

[theAccursed]

Fabian Scheidler: President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 – while at the same time escalating the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Some days after his Nobel Prize speech in Stockholm he went to Copenhagen and had nothing to offer to the climate talks as a reduction of four per cent of greenhouse gas emissions until 2020 – while scientists say 40 percent are needed. Many analysts say that this was the collapse of the climate talks. There were many hopes before Obama was elected, when he was elected. Hopes for change. Where is this „change“ that was promised. And why is he falling short of the expectations?

Noam Chomsky: It's not a comment about him. It's a comment about the expectations. The expectations were based on nothing. I'm one of the few people who isn't disillusioned because I had no expectations. I wrote about his record and prospects before the campaign, just looking at his website. And it was pretty clear that he's going to be a normal centrist Democrat roughly Clinton-style. He never pretended to be anything else. I mean there was rhetoric about hope and change. But it was like a blank slate. You can write on it whatever you wanted. And he is kind of personable. People were desperate for some hope so they grabbed onto it. But there was no basis for any expectations.

I mean as you may know he won an award, the award from the advertising industry for the best marketing campaign of 2008. He beat out Apple Computer. And they knew what they were doing. It was a very successful marketing campaign. But like most marketing campaigns you don't take it seriously. If you look at the actual substance there was never any reason for expectations. And what's happened is I think pretty much in line with what could have been anticipated both in domestic and international affairs.

http://www.zcommunications.org/kontext-interview -by-noam-chomsky

[Second Rate]

Casterillo wrote:

Yoorai wrote:

Boycott won't solve anything.
It doesn't but, do you actually want to give money to people responsible for the largest environmental disaster in the history of the WORLD! People who are already rich who are dumb asses. I sure as hell I won't be stopping at any BP gas stations anytime soon. If you care about the Earth then you should understand.

Well, let's see? Given the number of people in this region that are employed in offshore drilling... yes, i will continue to spend money at BP gas stations and buy BP gas. Put blame where it is actually due.... on the government. The benevolent Obama dragged his feet on a request from the Louisiana government to build islands to block the oil from reaching the shore. Also, let's not even get into the Jones Act. That should have been suspended immediately after this incident happened. And it is the largest environmental disaster in the history of the United States, not the world. Stop channeling Shepard Smith.

[Uninspired_One]

all this bullshit is why cars should run on hemp or corn. Wouldn't have this problem then would we?

[Otnip]

Interesting fun fact:
BP Ownership Percents

UK: 40%
US: 39%

[FootSwitch]

As much as I like Korn, He sounds like Bono. Hate these little cute protests artist try to do, now when I see them live this summer I have to listen to a ten minute speech about something he nos nothing about. Awesome

[Seasons_Change]

BushMasterFlex wrote:

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, what a progressive band. Uhhh, not. Another group trying to get some facetime via this whole BP fiasco. Stupid. Does Korn even know what BP stands for? Ahahahaha.
BOSTON PIZZA!!

LOL!

[Metallicam]

BushMasterFlex wrote:

BOSTON PIZZA!!

This. I was worried they wanted to boycott Boston Pizza. Man I love that place!

[grunger549]

thatll really stick it to BP! one tour bus wont be fillin up with their gas!
*sarcasm*

[grunger549]

Nirvana00125 wrote:

I'm mad people are dissing korn even for this. Geez, whether you like them or not, this is a very good idea. BP is a bunch of money grubbing rejects who obviously have no clue how to do anything that requires more intelligence than a 5th grader.

And to the guy who said nature will resolve this... you're a failure.

can you run an international, multi-billion dollar company? thought not

[csrogers87]

KORN isn't even relevant anymore. Im sure a company as big as BP has no concerns about it or what J. Davis thinks of the oil problems and/or their boycott fiasco. Furthermore this is useless news once again from UG.

[Tumble-weed]

Let's boycott KoRn merch and albums on their upcoming tour to protest against the band's failure to release a decent record in over 10 years, which has resulted in the death of unknown amounts of organisms in the world!

[Syv]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

Oh God. I know they probably have a point, but I really hate it when politics gets into music. Why can't people write songs about stuff anymore? You know, the Macc Lads, albeit one of the most offensive bands around, really only wrote songs about drinking beer and having sex. That's normal stuff, not some political subtext that ruins a perfectly good song otherwise.

Oh, so you're asking why don't people write songs about the same thing every modern pop artist builds their career on? There's plenty of sex and drugs in rap and pop, but metal was founded on story-telling bands like iron maiden and black sabbath. I'm not saying politics are the root of rock music, but neither is sex nor beer.

[huevos]

Voldragon wrote:

Bypass BP? Guess they'll have to start making their own fuel then, out of....corn.

I'm sorry *leaves the thread*

1st thought that popped into my head when I saw the headline.

Tumble-weed wrote:

Let's boycott KoRn merch and albums on their upcoming tour to protest against the band's failure to release a decent record in over 10 years, which has resulted in the death of unknown amounts of organisms in the world!

The truth.

[rednightmare]

Many spills collectively bigger than this happen off the coast of African and other third world countries and no one gives a shit. This spill's only got attention cos it's near America.

[GidBass]

still, it's the humongous amount of demanded oil which drives this whole industry. the risk of construction failures are a lot higher when the pressure's on. Korn would only make a statement if they are going to push there tourbus around and sail to other continents.

[andym1975]

It wasn't BP that caused the disaster, it was the American company that operated the rig they subcontracted from BP.

[OldEscape]

It's BP'S failure to act that is the real issue here, Tony Hayward played it off like it wasn't a big deal, fed people bullshit about how the spill was"not that bad", they should of had Oil absorbing booms there the day after the incident, instead they tried to play it down like it wasn't as bad as it is and twiddled their fingers up their ass. It took them over forty days to even begin to assist the situation, BP should have stepped up right away, then they would possibly be in a better light, Tony Hayward is a schmuck.

[SlipknotRule93]

Syv wrote:
Oh, so you're asking why don't people write songs about the same thing every modern pop artist builds their career on? There's plenty of sex and drugs in rap and pop, but metal was founded on story-telling bands like iron maiden and black sabbath. I'm not saying politics are the root of rock music, but neither is sex nor beer.

I never said that it was the 'root of rock music' as you put it, but why can't these musicians, who want their songs to heard by many, write about something more mainstream that most people can relate to, not some political opinion.

[Bassin Fingers]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

Syv wrote:
Oh, so you're asking why don't people write songs about the same thing every modern pop artist builds their career on? There's plenty of sex and drugs in rap and pop, but metal was founded on story-telling bands like iron maiden and black sabbath. I'm not saying politics are the root of rock music, but neither is sex nor beer.

I never said that it was the 'root of rock music' as you put it, but why can't these musicians, who want their songs to heard by many, write about something more mainstream that most people can relate to, not some political opinion.

Because it's not about catering to the opinions of the masses for every artist. Sure, some do it, and they get their share of money. But some artists actually write to, I don't know, express themselves? When you compromise your own artistic integrity for the sake of making everyone happy, you lose part of what makes you unique as an artist, and god knows we've seen plenty of that in today's industry.

[dakota75]

Bassin Fingers wrote:

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

Syv wrote:
Oh, so you're asking why don't people write songs about the same thing every modern pop artist builds their career on? There's plenty of sex and drugs in rap and pop, but metal was founded on story-telling bands like iron maiden and black sabbath. I'm not saying politics are the root of rock music, but neither is sex nor beer.

I never said that it was the 'root of rock music' as you put it, but why can't these musicians, who want their songs to heard by many, write about something more mainstream that most people can relate to, not some political opinion.

Because it's not about catering to the opinions of the masses for every artist. Sure, some do it, and they get their share of money. But some artists actually write to, I don't know, express themselves? When you compromise your own artistic integrity for the sake of making everyone happy, you lose part of what makes you unique as an artist, and god knows we've seen plenty of that in today's industry.

god thank you for that man!!! i have been waiting for someone to say that for a long time!!!

[Thr3Elevenstyle]

korn? why are we listening to musicians about their piss-poor opinions on anything global, or political. korn especially. jonathan davis, just write songs about being sad and stuff. a message to every band, artist, singer, whatever: stfu. we dont take you serious anyways

[FeedThemCake]

Does nobody else see the Irony in this? America is the most polluting nation of all! They f*** over the environment more than anyone.

[pag_slash_2]

mreed1990 wrote:

If this happen to an American company in the English channel it could have started a war.....America needs to outlaw BP from ever doing business over here again.

Ha, no it wouldn't. The world is shit scared of America, and rightfully so, you've got a massive army and like to start wars. However, there have been oil leaks and spills in 3rd world countries like Nigeria for decades, mostly thanks to American companies, and we Westerners just like to ignore it, although it has killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people. The BP spill is a ****ing mess, but it only killed 11 people, and they were working on the oil rig. We also forget that the oil rig was owned in part by BP, but also partially by an American company.

I'm not defending BP, but most people are shooting their mouths off when they don't have many facts at their disposal.