Lars Ulrich Vs. Dave Mustaine

Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich has responded to a verbal attack by former bandmate Dave Mustaine over the inclusion of a scene in Metallica's "Some Kind Of Monster" documentary in which Ulrich sits down with Mustaine for a one-on-one therapy session.

The new issue of Record Collector magazine would feature comments from Mustaine, who called the inclusion of the scene a "final betrayal," as he had asked the band to cut it from the finished film.

Lars Ulrich told Launch that he has no idea why Mustaine is complaining: "The only thing I can say is, I myself felt that when I saw some of the scenes, individually and out of context, they were awkward. But playing in the context of the movie, I think it flows very well. And I hope that he gets a chance to see the film, or sneak in and see it, or somebody sends him a copy, maybe he'll feel different about it."

Ulrich also told Launch that the scene was a faithful depiction of what happened during the session: "It's a pretty accurate representation of what went on in the room that night. Look, I don't know ? we sent him a copy of the scene, and he asked us if we would not put that in the movie. And we sat down and really respected his inquiry, and we decided it was too integral a part of the movie to leave out. And we kept asking, 'Why?,' and 'Is there anything...?'. Look, I can't tell you. I haven't spoken to him since that day."

Ulrich said Mustaine's on-camera outburst was shocking: "I was stunned by the fact that when he looked back on his 15 years of being in a very successful hard rock band called Megadeth, that the main thing that he saw in that rear-view mirror was Metallica. It just stunned me."

Ulrich said that ? despite what Mustaine might be saying ? he has positive feelings for his former bandmate: "Look, I've always had a soft spot for him. I've always thought he was very gifted, and kind of a sweetheart. And we've had some good moments over the years. But I was glad that we had an opportunity to throw some of that stuff onto the table. Especially for him, because he just needed to get some of that stuff out there."

Lars said the air isn't clear yet: "Well, James [Hetfield] wasn't there. So that was a big part of it. I think I've always been a little bit more forgiving than James, and I think I was more forgiving of Dave than James was, especially early on. So I think that James and Dave have some stuff that they kinda have to wind through."

Comments

[psykopoo]

You Go Lars, Fisrt Post Ya'll

[psykopoo]

YEah, Dave is A gifted Guitarist, Just Not as Gifted as Kirk, and thats why he was replaced (along with being, pissed and stoned all the time)

[BarryMcBatt]

go 'tallica

[boxcarblink41]

lars is a jerk. he TOLD them he didnt want to be in it but they still did. like dave said, they've stopped being muscians, they've turned into businessmen.

[flawlessme]

Lars is an idiot. Even after clearly being told that he doesn't wan't to be put in the movie they went ahead with it. Now im going back to the "Who would you want to see in a fight" thread and post "Lars and Dave". Boy, Wouldn't that be fun?

[Weebl]

YEah, Dave is A gifted Guitarist, Just Not as Gifted as Kirk, and thats why he was replaced (along with being, pissed and stoned all the time)

WTF????!!! Kirk is crap compared to Dave, dave was kicked out cos he was an alcoholic or a druggy or something, im not too sure but he is far better than kirk.

[METALLILAN]

people get better when they're NOT DRUNK> how do you think metallica could get the show on the road when dave was drunk???

[Dave_Grohl]

haha poostain's a sweetheart, nice one lars. kick his ass Jaymz!!!

[noodles_wazaman]

lars sounds really gay in that interview doesn't he? I would like to see what james and mustaine have to say about each other these days, especially since it was them who had the altercation all those years ago and lars if full of shit

[PsychoWolfD]

I agree with Weebl. He got kicked out because of some drug problem, at least that's what I heard. And after an solo-less album, I would say Dave is better than Kirk.

[The Jin]

Weebl:
YEah, Dave is A gifted Guitarist, Just Not as Gifted as Kirk, and thats why he was replaced (along with being, pissed and stoned all the time)

WTF????!!! Kirk is crap compared to Dave, dave was kicked out cos he was an alcoholic or a druggy or something, im not too sure but he is far better than kirk.

Dave can sing and give the best rhythm guitaring in the world. Kirk is a soloist and a dam good one. Id say they're equal

[Weebl]

Kirk is no way near as talented as Dave, listen to hangar 18, Kirk is good but not compared to Mustaine, although i do prefer Hammetts work Dave is a far better guitarist.

[Bezzah]

sorry mr. Jin dude weebls got a point yknow but they got rid of mustaine because he wanted to go commercial (but look at them now lol) James & Lars were pissed all the time anyways so...

[Bezzah]

Well put it this way i can do more Mustaine solos than i can hammetts and kirks a cool guy

[Resiliance]

Mustaine > Hammett

And thats final.

[BleedForMe666]

It's Dave's stupid fault he got the boot from the 'Tallica boys. You can't be productive if you're shit faced all the time. When I say productive, I don't mean in a buisiness like way. If Dave was passed out on the floor from beer and and doing cocaine, and they had a show in an hour, I'd have kicked him out too. Dave's a good guitarist and I am a Megadeth fan, but not anywhere near as much as I am a Metallica fan. Dave needs to be thankful that he's had success with Megadeth, and stop being bitter about Metallica and grow the hell up. Lars tried to make peace, and Dave didn't want it. I think Kirk is better than Dave, not by much but he still is and that's my opinion, and its as useless as the next guy's. It's been 21 years Dave, get over it.

[SumXnofx]

metallica sucks now. All they care about is money thats why jason left,and Dave is way better than krik,and why did they kick dave out for doing drugs but james was the biggest drunk??

[psykopoo]

Hey Hey Hey.......Erm. Hammett > Mustaine and Mustaine < Hammett and thats final, Anyone got a problem with that bring it on, just to let u know im a 6` 10" Meaty Bald dude so dont ***ing mess ya hear?

[Jacharias P]

haha poostain's a sweetheart, nice one lars. kick his ass Jaymz!!!

SHIT that FUCKING funny

Which stupid ***er said that Mustains the best rhythm guitaring inn the world. not for SHIT can he.
1, james is such a better Rhythm guitarist
2, you say he san play the best rhythm guitarin the world and sing, but he can't ***ing sing for SHIT, in all that i've heard his singing is, quite frankly poo.

And about the massive debate over who's a better guitarist Kirk or Dave i will just say that both are better than me, and almost definately better that everyone posting here.
And i think Kirk is better.

It's been 21 years Dave, get over it

[psykopoo]

Bleedforme666...?? Theres a Difference between being pissed and stoned ya know

[psykopoo]

And Bezzah's Right, Kirks a better guitarist and a really great guy, Cant say the same for Dave tho cause hes a whiny ginger shit

[iamsatan]

ur all wrong,lars cant drum,metallica dont make music they make noise for the media to sell baked beans using,mustaine is amazing

[danzig88]

YEah, Dave is A gifted Guitarist, Just Not as Gifted as Kirk, and thats why he was replaced (along with being, pissed and stoned all the time)

WTF????!!! Kirk is crap compared to Dave, dave was kicked out cos he was an alcoholic or a druggy or something, im not too sure but he is far better than kirk.

yea i love metallica but dave mastaine is one of the greatest guitarest of the last 10 years, he was thrown out , not replaced, because him and james had a fight at one show and dave hit james right in the face so the next morning james,lars, and cliff threw dave out on the street in his matress and left him their.

[iamsatan]

kirk can play but im not one for his solos theyre just the prygian mode played in a cycle....marty freidman megadeths lead is the best though he doesnt know scales but *** he can play like kirk except less of the wah wah and more of the feeling.....eg)check the solo in symthony of destruction...arpeggios never sounded so sweet!!!!!

[psykopoo]

Right, Kirk And Friedman are both better than dave so quit you ***ing whining

[eon_blue56]

wow lars thinks dave is a sweetheart....

do i see some romance in the future?

and though dave was kicked out because he was an alcoholic, he wasnt much worse then the other members who became known as alcolica for a while because of their problems with drinking

[SOAtwaD]

Have you ever heard how many megadeth songs sound identicle to metallica songs? so may be Dave wrote some riffs for 'Tallica, but uh Dave..? if some of these songs have already appeared on a Metallica album, then they're no longer your for the taking. And anyway... I heard Dave' solo for Whiplash off of Cliff 'em All... Kirk's Whiplash solo kicks the shit out of Dave's

[Weebl]

Hey Hey Hey.......Erm. Hammett > Mustaine and Mustaine < Hammett and thats final, Anyone got a problem with that bring it on, just to let u know im a 6` 10" Meaty Bald dude so dont ***ing mess ya hear?

Uhhh...no he isnt, why dont you go to the metal forum and say that there. Mustaine is a better guitarist end of story.

[psykopoo]

Well said SOATwaD

[psykopoo]

Shut it weebl,

[jumpmanhat]

Hammet is GOD

[Weebl]

Shut it weebl,

Well dave IS better so i dont think i will.

[psykopoo]

Daves A Shitty Ginger Scumbag whose no where near as good as Kirk So piss off

[psykopoo]

Kirk's Whiplash solo kicks the shit out of Dave's


Hell yeah

[Weebl]

Considering Dave is allowed to be talked about in the shred forum because hes a good guitarist whereas kirk hammett threads are deleted because kirks not a shreeder because hes not good enough, all he does is pentatonic runs and a load of fast hammer ons. Just go into the forums and say Kirk is better than dave and youll get the hell flamed out of you.

[nirvanafan11111]

both bands rock both guitarists are great end of argument

[Weebl]

Btw pskykopoo your not a 6' 10 meaty bald guy your 15 so STFU

[Rcknthefreworld]

can't we just smoke a bowl and get along?

[the_beastly_one]

Dave Mustaine is right.

[HIM rocks]

lars = asshole

[guitar_freak523]

the title of this news is quite missleading.

[umair]

megadeth is meatl all da way n not hard rock...u shud correct urself lars!!!

[DamageIncx875]

FUCK DAVE MUSTAINE, KIRK HAMMETT IS THE BETTER GUITARIST NO MATTER WHAT, MUSTAINE IS A COMPLAINING LITTLE BITCH

[realiztik]

All you f*ckers that keep writing "listen to Hangar 18" F*ck man, how about you Megadeth fans go listen to THE CALL OF KTULU.

PLUS one of the biggest reasons Mustaine got booted was because he almost killed them. He was driving drunk when the rest of em were sleeping in the back of whatever they were driving. Look up to your hero Deth fans...

FYI Mustaine has always said that he created Megadeth out of spite, and all he wanted was to become bigger than Metallica...

Is Kirk or Mustaine better? It's all relative. I think the question is, who's more diverese? Hammet is a lot more diverse than Mustaine. But they're both great, and I hate Megadeth.

[pw2004]

lars is handling it well i think....

Ulrich : "I was stunned by the fact that when he looked back on his 15 years of being in a very successful hard rock band called Megadeth, that the main thing that he saw in that rear-view mirror was Metallica. It just stunned me."

[HelpImARock]

Why i s everyone going "Daves just mad because he missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime".
The opportunity in question is to play in a famous metal band. Oh wait.... HE DID THAT.

Dave isnt jealous, he has no reason to be. Megadeth is an awesome band in their own right.

[airsoft]

Wow, I just compared both in an un-biased view, neither are really my style but, Dave and Mardy are 10x better than Kirk or James and you Metalica fans are to ignorant to hear it.

I'm officialy with the Megadeth fans on this one.

[airsoft]

Marty*

[tC2oo4]

lars and his big ***ing mouth he can never keep ***ing closed just shut uo ffs

[tC2oo4]

lars is a cock ffs hes like 4 foot tall and all he does is double bass drum big fkin woop i can stamp my feet too

[guitar_man_guy]

can't we just smoke a bowl and get along?

Here Here!!

[guitar_man_guy]

can't we just smoke a bowl and get along?

Here Here!!

[TUBZhimself]

Ok i think i can settle this, BOTH HAMMET AND DAVE are awesome and u cant judge between the twos' ability, but overall i like metallicas muzic over megadeths.

[senile]

man, when will this lars vs. dave, metallica vs. megadeth shit end. ***

[DoTheDew up urs]

i think we need to have dave...vs lars..in like a boxing match...and then if dave wins, it's on to james vs dave...dave whines like a little 5 year old bitch it's not metallicas fault megadeth isnt better than metallica... it's just the way dave thinks about it..he has to much time on his hands to sit there and greive on how he got kicked out of metallica. and now dave is just pissed that metallica tapped him and are using him in their movie to promote their music..he needs to get a life..or make a damn megadeth movie and have clips of james in it or somthin..this is bullshit

And about the massive debate over who's a better guitarist Kirk or Dave i will just say that both are better than me, and almost definately better that everyone posting here.

yes who ever wrote that is a mastermind.

[DoTheDew up urs]

honestly i think metallica is better than megadeth just because i've never heard any of megadeths music..i've heard pieces of stuff but it all sounds like tallica..

[nerv]

any real musician know that dave is better than kirk would ever dream, kirk suck´s that is why he gave up soloing in st. anger, and megadeth is far better than metallica.

[MrScary07RR]

exactly^^^^^

[Riffmast]

Why do Tallica teenies do not think or act with any sort of intellegence. Metallica is a great band but if you know anything about Guitar and are a fan of Megadeth and Metallica you'de realize techinically looking at all aspects of teh band their equall.

Vocals: As much as Dave's singing can be awesome ( Rust in Peace and Live) often it sucks so as much as James's voice can bore me i give Metallica this one.

Rhytym Guitar: Harder,faster,heavier, Dave destroys James in riffing. So Megadeth

Lead Guitar:Pentatonic scale not even taht incredibly fast against, ***ing mind blwoing shred. Megadeth takes this easily with every guitarist Megadeth has ever had. Megadeth wins.

Bass: It's ***ing Cliff sorry Dave Ellefson you just can't compare( he;s still pretty good though). Tallica wins

Drums: Is this even a question. Megadeth

Lyrics: Equall



Their we go an unbiased look between Metallica and Megadeth. I'm a big fan of both ( or was a big fan with Tallica) but Megadeth is clearly the better band.

[Riffmast]

Oh oops i said equall above well i guess i did'nt realize that Megadeth was better either.

[uragooch33]

that lars from metallica's always gotta complain about somethin "were losing money to napster, our old guitarist is pissed cause he asked us not to do something and we did, why do these things happen to mee waaaaah"

[SwiftyTheClown]

If Dave Mustaine regrets anything, it should be all the drug abuse that got him kicked out of Metallica in the first place.

[shreddgod]

FYI: kirk wasn't "prefered" over dave at all, when they booted him out of the band they thought of kirk because they were friends of the band exodus, because they both were from the bay area, assheads

Dave is better than james because he was the LEAD GUITAR player in metallica before he got booted out, so that means he was obviously better than james, and still is.

As for some guy saying master of puppets is just as easy as "hangar 18"... have you ever even heard hangar 18, because look at the tabs for the two songs, hangar is DEFINETLY HARDER. I could go on with a list of way more skilled songs, heres just the tip of the iceberg, MFer:

- Holy Wars... the punishment due
- Good mourning...black friday
- Peace sells
- 502
- Mastermind
- AH hell ALL OF RUST IN PEACE ( I was going to name songs from the album, but realized they're all insanely complex)

Have you heard these songs wanker?? do you honestly think that "battery" or "master of puppets" is JUST AS COMPLEX as ANY OF THESE SONGS I'VE LISTED???

You're nuts if you say "yes"

the age old metallica versus megadeth war is lame now,

I've sat around many times for hours (when I am usually stoned, lol) with friends and fellow metalheadz thinking and talking about who is better and what they both are.... Heres what I've come up with:

- metallica was more catchy
- Megadeth was more complex
- Metallica was heavier and more thrash-like
- Megadeth was faster and more speed-metallish
- Metallica was more popular
- Megadeth was more technical
- James could sing better
- Dave played better rythm...

You see they are both better than eachother in certain areas, leave it at that okay??

And yes, I do believe that marty is better than kirk, the guy is a genius, hes not only faster and more complex he also has a doctorate in music from berkley

hes "Dr. Friedman" lol

Nick menza was better than lars, because lars has always been a whinner, lol

[guitarhero253]

well i dont know mustaine was really good and i love megadeth (youthanasia was the best) and metallica is really good too... i dunno i guess dave has some issues

[shreddgod]

Oh yeah and to drill "kill the king" into the ground is extremely lame, megadeths newest work is still far better than "st. anger" which featured no solos at all, let alone "crappy ones" like the one in "kill the king" apparently...

So what was your point of that? comparing new metallica with new megadeth eh? listen to "dread and the fugitive mind" and basically all of st. anger, which one is better, haha exactly.

As for "new" metal, the new megadeth "the system has failed" comes out september 14th, with chris poland and nick menza back in the band, are you going to drill those riffs too?

Good luck, chris poland is gonna rip it up, unlike kirk hammet on st. anger in which is basically disappears...

Your point made by comparing those two songs was lame, get a life MFer

[ScarredFaith]

Mettallica has no right to show that shit ***ing sell out movie making whores.

[guitarhero253]

i agree with anyone who says st anger sucks even though im a huge fan i think they lost it around the load and reload

[ReverbX]

who really gives a fuk. Metallica are overated.

[Bob_The_Moose]

YEah, Dave is A gifted Guitarist, Just Not as Gifted as Kirk, and thats why he was replaced

*Slap*
Silly boy.

He was replaced because he didn't get along with James and Lars. Dave can actually do something other than a quick wah wah-ed pentatonic mess for 30 seconds, then sitting around twiddling his thumbs for the next 10 minutes while Hetfield records the rest of the rhythm track.

[cliff_em_all]

mustardstain can't tuch the "ONE" solo.

[atomicboy]

"Dave's a better guitarist, Metallica's better than Megadeth, Kirk has nice hair, blahdy blahdy blah" Shut the FUCK UP! No one's gonna win the argument! I think anyone who's got a talent and has used it to their fullest like all those guys have deserve respect so stop being a bunch of whiney little kids and grow up

[cagz]

Personally I think everyone needs to get over the whole Megadeth vs. Metallica thing. Without Dave being thrown out of Metallica we would never have had Megadeth and therefore 2 of the coolest metal bands on the planet. So just sit back and enjoy the music they created.

P.S. I'm both a Metallica and Megadeth fan!

[guitar_freak523]

cliff_em_all:
mustardstain can't tuch the "ONE" solo.
[POSTED: 11 July 2004 - 07:49]|

ur a dumbass if i can almost touch it,dave can rip it out

[shanus68]

80's and classical metal is all ***in over put that shit behind you. Move on. Listen to some of the new death/thrash/grind bands that deserve your attention.

[jrhill03]

Dave in my mind is 1000X better than kirk, if metallica still had him in the band they would have never sold out in peoples minds and would have kept up the thrash mentality that was present in Kill Em All.

[kooldonuts]

kirk is sooooo much better than mustaine! if metalluica still ahd mustaine, they'd still be playing pentatonics and shit, listen to the differece between kill em alll, and ride the lightning, the composing was just soo much better when mustaine left

[MrCrowley]

okay ladies, kirk isn't better than Dave, get over it. Dave can school kirk anyday. Listen to Megadeth songs, the things Dave does on Megadeth are awesome, kill em all mightve been bad but, it was a debut album, they didnt exactly have all the time in the world to refine their sound, and plus when Dave left you notice they started having more slowwer songs..and then when cliff died they tossed out the whole thrash metal thing entirely, and Megadeth has kept it up, they at least put out a fast-as-hell song once in a while ni the 90's, but Metallica just crapped out, and in a fight between lars and Dave, i think Dave would win, didn't he knock out james one time before he was kicked out?

[MrCrowley]

oh yeah, that guy who was talking about Call of Ktulu...Dave said he helped write that song..or some of the riffs i believe. and Dave might not be able to touch the one solo...he can tear it down and make a better one. oh by the way..which Megadeth songs sounded like Which Metallica songs? but what shreddgod said was pretty much right, though.

[benjaminr]

Dude, thus far no one has been right about why Mustaine was kicked out. Mustaine was kicked out because he wanted to do music hardcore and the 'Talica boys wanted to have families and worry about stuff like that too. Mustaine just wanted it more than the rest of them did. Metallica is the shit though, they got it done their way. Metallica has cooler songs in my opinion and I would say that Kirk and Dave are about equal.

[Nirvana_RATM]

metallica rules but i began to think the opposite a little everyday....

[psykopoo]

Well You Can Go An Fuck Yourself Nirvana_RATM

[stuartmcwilliam]

As much of a prick that lars is he is probably one of the best drummers goin, so go lars.
ps john bonham is the best

[stuartmcwilliam]

any1 herd of barfinkle

[Weebl]

kirk is sooooo much better than mustaine! if metalluica still ahd mustaine, they'd still be playing pentatonics and shit, listen to the differece between kill em alll, and ride the lightning, the composing was just soo much better when mustaine left

Your an idiot, kirk plays in pentatonics all the time mustaine does much more than that.

[cheekymonkey]

METALLICA=The new KISS

Lars is Genes illegitimate son; James is like Paul, he knows it is bullshit, but loves the band, and is blind to it all. Bottom line, it is money money money. That's fine, but remember, Metallica built their reputation and following based upon the fact that originally they were ANTI-corporate rock, and it was all about the music!! At least Gene is HONEST about why he is in the industry.

[psykopoo]

Anyone Heard Dave Mustaine Playing Lead Guitar off THE CRAVING album? It was his side project, and on that album even though he played lead guitar, he didnt play anywhere near as well as kirk hammett does

[psykopoo]

And im Surprised how many marty friedman fans there are, Chris poland was better, well maybe not technically but his solos sounded better...

[Naktul]

SumXnofx asshole, u know nothing. Jason left cos he wanted to work on his Echobrain project!

[awsomeguitarGOD]

Dave sux compared to kirk and mega deth will always live in metallicas footsteps

[atomiclobsters]

I hav to agree with atomicboy. this is pretty stupid. there both good metal bands and i dont think any one in here relly cares about anyone elses opion.

[Riffmast]

"Dave sux compared to kirk and mega deth will always live in metallicas footsteps"- some fag.

In terms of making money, selling out and dissapointing fans yes Megadeth will never beat Metallica. But as far as making music Megadeth is superior.

[Sum1]

kirk fits metallica better then dave, kirk may not be technicaly better then dave, but i feel his solos fit perfectly with metallicas songs... dave fit well with megadeth.. thats what it comes down to

but overall i think metallica is better......

[mon_diesle]

Ohhhhh...I can't believe what I'm reading! I love Metallica music and Kirk is one of my favorite guitarists but, anyone who thinks Kirk is better than Dave is sorely mistaken. Dave got kicked out of the band for substance abuse, but James can take time to go into rehab. Dave Mustaine got screwed. Lars can take his art collection and his huge ***ing mouth and go to hell!

[atomiclobsters]

does anyone no the summer saniturium home page?

[GoodCharloteSux]

we all know lars is the B*&^% of the band he mustve said something

[Panteras_Awsome]

*** megadeth metallica and pantera will always be better then megadeth kirk is way better then dave

[shreddgod]

haha pantera sucks ass compared to megadeth, they're not even together anymore for one reason why they aren't as good,

besides dave and marty walk all over dime...

[atomiclobsters]

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE SUMMER SANITARIUM HOMEPAGE?!?!?!?!

[evilville]

MEGADETH is 10x better then Metallica

[fender rocker16]

how did this turn into dave vs kirk? i believe the title was lars vs dave...

[crawlingfaster]

lars is awesome and for those of you who say he cant drum its probably cuz u have only listened to st anger which features his worst drumming ever. and as for kirk and dave i prefer kirks playing more, but that doesnt nescesarily mean hes better. james is also a way way way better singer/songwriter/rhythm guitarist than dave in my opinion. not saying u have to agree, but thats what i think

[Riffmast]

Pantera is better tham Megadeth but Marty owns Dime who owns Dave who owns Kirk, But in terms of not selling out and making awesome music Pantera destroys Megadeth and Metallica. Pantera made 5 graet albums and 4 hair record before that. Metallica made four pretty goood records and Megadeth made some good records and and a few masterpeices. But Pantera always stayed true and never sold out not even when they could of instead they made 5 awesome bonecrushing heavy Metal records. Also Pantera arne't together because they had eternal issues within the band shreddgod, learn your facts.

[Obie]

And about the massive debate over who's a better guitarist Kirk or Dave i will just say that both are better than me, and almost definately better that everyone posting here.

^--- WELL SAID

NOW THE REST OF YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP HOLY SHIT THIS IS A POINTLESS ARGUMENT

LARS IS GOOD TOO BETTER THAN ANY SHIT DRUMMIN U FUCKIN HOMO 13 YEAR OLD WANNABE METAL PLAYERS

[shreddgod]

I am not 13, nor am I am homo

and megadeth will always be better than pant(s)era, because, well, phil just screams usually, whereas dave actually sings.

ALL of megadeths albums are better than ANYTHING that pantera released, let me see:

Peace sells
So far So good... So what!
Rust in peace
Countdown to extinction
Youthanasia
Cryptic writings

It is UNIVERSALLY known that megadeth has had better albums than pantera, and more number one, everyone agrees on this, even dime knows it,

YOU TOOL!

ALL HAIL RATTLEHEAD DROOGIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Riffmast]

Pantera sings all threw Cowboys from Hell also on many songs he does aswell. Screaming is a legitimate style of vocals. Daves Vocals also arne't very good in alot of the albums.Megadeth is awesome but look at Pantera.I would give Pantera and Megadeth equall maybe.Also you forgot their first album " Killing is My buisness is good" taht's a good Megadeth album but Megadeth still has lots of bad songs and albums were the sold out Pantera has.

Cowboys From Hell
Vulgar Display of Power
Far Beyond Driven
The Great Southern Trendkill
Reinventing the Steel

All bone crushing Heavy Metal. More number ones means nothing. I do really love Megadeth but you have no valid arguement hear. Pantera and Megadeth are equall Pantera just never sold out.

And Obie your the ***ing homo. If your not gonna argue get the *** outta the arguement. Also just try moving your small finger to press off the caps lock, makes you look like a bigger idiot than you really are.

[Riffmast]

Also
Vulgar Dispaly of Power,Far Beyond Driven, and TGSTK destroy Cryptic writings, So Far SO Good So What and Youthanasia easily.

[Puppet_King666]

if mustaine told lars the reason he didnt want to be in the film lars would have not put him in the film. Mustaine for some reason doesnt like to be involved with metallica. goes back to when kirk replaced mustaine. mustaine didnt want his stuff to be in the kill em all album. and Metallica went ahead and did it. and megadeth covered some of Metallica's songs to. and on The World Needsa A hero album. the last track has the beginning riff to Metallica's The Call Of Ktulu but slower. and back in 90 something Megadeth and Metallica were on the same stage. and Mustaine said it was a great being on stage with Tallica. so i dont know what the problem is. its just like forget and forgive

[CKYmark83]

they're both babies that need to grow up. Dave needs to look at the good thing, MEGADEATH'S SUCCESS! Forget Metallica dude.

[axeman84]

kirk hammett sucks, and lars ulrich is an idiot,,,enough said

[kinghate69]

wow megadeth vs metallica...never heard this arguement before

[Kingtab69]

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[AlexRim]

Crawlingfaster, I completly agree with you. I think it's presumptuous to say Mustain is better than Kirk! and may be some people here are confusing "sympathy with ability"....!?

[AlexRim]

axeman84, you are an idiot!!! I don't think that you are better than Kirk Hammett and so you can't say he sucks!!!!!

[shreddgod]

tell me, pantera fans, how exactly did megadeth "sell out" according to you every band "sold out' including metallica,

Okay metallica has done alot of things that would piss people off, but what has megadeth done exactly???

I suppose you're going to say slayer sold out too? that would be funny considering slayer is pretty much the basis for music like panteras'....

Tell me HOW EXACTLY megadeth sold out and I will consider your opinion, until then megadeth is better than pantera.

PS: in terms of riffs and speed dave whips Dimes' ass easily...

[realiztik]

I'm saying this, and then that's it. All you Megadeth fans keep saying basically that all Metallica fans should take a little longer listen and realize what the music is about. Just basically understand it a little more. You guys are contradicting yourselves to the max!!! You still have no clue why St.Anger sounds the way it does. You have NO CLUE why it has no solos. You're just brainless. You still think that Kirk only plays pentatonics.... do any of you actually even play the guitar?????? take a look at Kirk's scales!!! He's played such a wider variety of scales than Mustaine whatever their lead player is.... You guys are totally clueless!!

[DamageIncx875]

MEGADETH ARE PUSSIES, METALLICA KICKS THERE ASS NO MATTER WHAT, MUSTAINE IS HAMMETTS BITCH

[Riffmast]

Shreddgod: They amde Youthananisia that sounds very mainstremish to me compared what the used to play. Also Risk, I agree with Dave Beats dave in speed in his riffs and riffs but vocallsy Dave Mustaine os nothing to Phil. Slayer never sold out imo, as i said i give Pantera and Megadeth an equall.

Realitik:St.ANger sounds the way it dose because lars wantrd aother house, It has no solos cause solos bore mallcore kids, i have brains, I play guitar, all of Kirks solo's sound similra in the sense of what different notes he uses. Even if Kirk played more scales he's not as fast technical or make as interesting solos as any of the Megadeth guitarists.

DamageIncx875: Mustaine is better than hammet, Meatllica sold out and made all the msuic radio friendly music, even after Megadeth did taht a bit they went back to tehir roots, and madfe way better maisntream music. Mustaine and Hammet are both straight aand are both good guitar players.

[Riffmast]

Also Shreddgod: I am a huge Megadeth fan don't get m wrong.

[realiztik]

Ok Riffmast. You proved yourself. You have no idea why St.Anger sounds that way. Way to show yourself.

St.Anger sounds that way because Metallica were proving they didn't have to put out what every one thought that they should. They don't need to impress anyone. It's raw because most of the tracks on the CD were just points where they were jamming (recorded live). There was no structure. They kept the solos out more because Kirk was writing main riffs and helping write lyrics. Kirk didn't have much time to write solos and they wanted to keep the raw feel in the songs.

Let's see if your quote makes sense ok? "St.Anger sounds the way it does because lars wanted another house..." Think about it? Kids want polished albums that most bands can't reproduce live.e.g Britany spears. They don't want the raw sound of St.Anger.

The guitar part. Try listening to some actual Metallica music. Learn so more scales. He doesn't just rip on pentatonics. He uses so much man.Just a couple of examples are " Major scales "Hero of the day" and Minor Modes in "Fade to black". You proved how much you knew when you said "he's not as fast technical, or make interesting solos." When you have Joe Satriani and Steve giving you props... I think it means "NUFF SAID"

[sharkie17]

i gotta agree with realiztik, although im a die hard metallica fan and i think megadeth is awesome too, riffmast sounds like lars during the napster thing, everone wants you to shut the hell up

[Man_In_The_Box]

i think john petrucci is better than kirk dave and dime. no offense to any of em.

[Riffmast]

Ok Riffmast. You proved yourself. You have no idea why St.Anger sounds that way. Way to show yourself.

St.Anger sounds that way because Metallica were proving they didn't have to put out what every one thought that they should. They don't need to impress anyone. It's raw because most of the tracks on the CD were just points where they were jamming (recorded live). There was no structure. They kept the solos out more because Kirk was writing main riffs and helping write lyrics. Kirk didn't have much time to write solos and they wanted to keep the raw feel in the songs.

Let's see if your quote makes sense ok? "St.Anger sounds the way it does because lars wanted another house..." Think about it? Kids want polished albums that most bands can't reproduce live.e.g Britany spears. They don't want the raw sound of St.Anger.

The guitar part. Try listening to some actual Metallica music. Learn so more scales. He doesn't just rip on pentatonics. He uses so much man.Just a couple of examples are " Major scales "Hero of the day" and Minor Modes in "Fade to black". You proved how much you knew when you said "he's not as fast technical, or make interesting solos." When you have Joe Satriani and Steve giving you props... I think it means "NUFF SAID"

Instead of making a polished album they made a shitty quality Nu Metal album. If Kirk could solos on every other album he could on this one. Have u seen " Some Kind Of Monster", Lars said that they should'nt have any solos. Lars wanted to conform to the masses. So what if good guitarists give you a thumb up fact be fact all of the Megadeth guitarists are faster and in my opinion make far better solos. I'm afraid you know shit, and by the sounds of it your just another Metallica fan boy.

You proved how much you knew when you said "he's not as fast technical, or make interesting solos." When you have Joe Satriani and Steve giving you props... I think it means "NUFF SAID"

Fine I'll make statements with nothing proper to back me up as well. Dave Mustiane and Megadeth are just better " NUFF SAID 101z 111".

i gotta agree with realiztik, although im a die hard metallica fan and i think megadeth is awesome too, riffmast sounds like lars during the napster thing, everone wants you to shut the hell up

Usually when people can't make an arguement against they me to shut up. Makes sense to me. Rather then just whining about how i'm wrong explain to me how I'm wrong"
.............. Fucking mallcore kids.

[untilitsleeps24]

ok wtf? kirk is like hella better than dave mustaine ya dave is a great guitarist but he cant compete with kirks solos and badass riffs come on now people!

[wanna_lick_me?]

jumpmanhat:
Hammet is GOD
^
go eat shit u f-ucking deuchebag. jimi hendrix was god. hammet is a stupid fu-cking reatard that can't even do alternate picking.