Mustaine To African Women: 'Put A Plug In It'

Dave Mustaine is making a name for himself with outrageous comments recently.

The latest verbal slip-up from the Megadeth frontman could prove the most offensive yet. He says African women should stop having children and "put a plug in it" if they can't afford to feed them.

"I really think that, if the parents aren't going to stick together, they shouldn't make that kind of commitment to life" Mustaine casually told LA Weekly. "I watch some of these shows from over in Africa, and you've got starving women with six kids. Well, how about, you know, put a plug in it? It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them."

It follows similarly controversial comments on gay marriage, where he refused to support legislation to allow two men to marry, and his backing of Rick Santorum which provoked a huge reaction in the UG community.

Of course, Mustaine is entitled to free speech, but he may underestimate that contraception is poorly distributed in certain areas of Africa. Crippled economies contribute to the difficulty, with 239 million people living in hunger in sub-Saharan Africa.

Mustaine's opinions often stem from his Christian beliefs. While Christianity is generally an understanding and forgiving religion, it can often conflict with modern liberal views. The resulting arguments can sometimes skew the debate, but it's clear the Megadeth frontman is simply trying to follow his faith.

"Even if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in faith, you've got to understand, when Israel became a country again, that was a prophecy in the Bible that came true, and the Bible was written so many hundreds of years ago," he said in the same interview. "Also, any of the stuff that it says in there about the end times - that stuff's really happening right now. Look what's happening over in the Middle East. It's crazy."

Did Mustaine step way out of line with his comments, or should he use his public platform as he pleases? Share your reaction in the comments.

Comments

[NRFT09]

Dave Mustaine, the next Morrissey?

[colddayinthesun]

The Bible was written hundreds of years ago?

[Elderer]

Plug In Baby

I bet he`d plug

[bulusvanua]

Put a plug in it? I think Dave should practice what he preaches.

[metalcore123]

here we go, waiting for the "das racist!" comments to spew in..

[JFRules]

lol

[Jesus_Dean]

Another relevant message that gets lost due to poor presentation.

[Anomie]

Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles.

Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone...

It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard.

Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.

[Zan595]

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

[WhoAMEye]

Whilst the whole issue of starving in Africa is sad and difficult Mr Mustaine doesn't seem to grasp the complexities of life.

People can be fine one week and destitute the next, culture, religion, war and natural disaster amongst others can turn a manageable family life into a nightmare like this in no time.

This can happen anywhere in the developing world and no one can really plan for any of it.

Those of us in the western world are protected to a greater or lesser extent and Dave's rather simplistic view only echoes the ignorance that can be born from that.

[GrungeHippie26]

You know what? I defended him on every obnoxious comment he's made so far, but this is just rediculus. You've gone overboard man, just shut up already.

[aznspadez]

Well considering how contraception is not widely available in Africa, the women may not necessarily infer that the women have a choice of "plugging it" or having children at all. Consider a woman who has a firm christian belief but has a child in an unfortunate circumstance, would she need to "put a plug in it?" Moreover, when considering the lack of contraception and often unreported cases of rape, it is very possible that those children are themselves products of rape. I know that republican ideology or christian ideology considers abortion murder, but it now begs the question, are victims of rape responsible for the birth and development of children conceived through rape or are they now allowed to abort an unwanted child?

[iommi600]

Well, Mustaine is revealing himself as a class A douchebag, recently... but I think this actually makes some sense. I don't see a good reason to bring a child into this world to suffer and starve to death.

But obviously, it's a lot of easier to say... there's many factors beyond it, like lack of sexual education and preservatives... You can't just "put a plug in it"...

[getts182]

"I watch some of these shows from over in Africa, and you've got starving women with six kids. Well, how about, you know, put a plug in it? It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them."

I'm sure many would agree with that. If only, you know, rapists would consider that. Or if only contraception were more readily available in the region. Or maybe if Dave Mustaine had an actual grasp on the myriad of problems that face African nations. I'm not saying I have the answers, but what I do know is that Africa is an extremely complicated region that faces a lot of problems that aren't black and white. It's not as simple as Mustaine makes it sound.

[MegadethFan18]

Dave for Emperor of the Universe!

He's right it's just because Africa is a touchy subject. Chat show hosts say it all the time, if you can't support your children don't have any. This has opened my eyes I always see those adverts about starving babies in Africa and have never though "maybe theirs Mothers should have put a plug in it".

[thedukeofprunes]

This man is clueless and it is clear that he doesn't understand the situation, at least not by the look of his frivolous comments. I love the fact that he doesn't even for one second try to contemplate the very serious matters of both rape as well as the religious ascendancy that consume and control these peoples lives.

Fucking christians. They think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

[JBougazelli]

Does he not realize that there are poor trailer trash people living here in the states feeding off our tax money to support their habits, and there 6 kids?

[Sammy Mantis]

Is he saying anything that isn't true?

[Lightning_Ray]

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

I can see his point, but here's the catch: in many cultures, with those being frequent in some African and Asian countries, there's a whole lot of cultural factors that you just can't ignore!

In some, a person with a considerable number of children is someone who's been blessed and deserves respect, not to mention that in those countries, most people barely have any access to artificial birth control methods.

This whole subject just can't be settled with a simple "Put A Plug In It" like Dave did.

[Maiden95]

Although he has a point, I'm going to say it.. Shut the **** up Dave

[tmaiden]

thank you dave its about time someone said something

[westley23j]

i totally agree with Dave. not so much over in other countries, but here in the States. have you seen some of the baby factories walking around Walmart late at night?! holy cow!

[Kingwiff606]

I think mustaine makes quite a valid point here, that is neither racist or offensive, I have one child myself, although I would like more I can't financially afford the upbringing to a quality I would desire, it's the same thing, if you can't feed them and they have no quality of life then why would you bring a child into immediate suffering, well said mustaine. Someone sooner or later needed to say this

[Sarrazin]

There is always 2 sides to argue so why bother...

[ShevanelFlip]

He should put a plug in his mouth.

[shikkaka]

Damn, Dave. You need to work on your phrasing.

On a side note, this is a poorly written article. Please do not make assumptions about the news. One might start to think you are trying to start flame wars.

[HowSoonisNow]

Like what someone else here said, we have a similar problem here in the States. It's all about the lack of sex education. It makes me sick when parents refuse to let their kids go to sex ed. How will they ever know the truth? A lot of teens probably think pulling out is good enough.

["Tele" Steve]

"Simply trying to follow his faith." I don't see it that way. I see it as him using Christianity, like so many do, as an excuse for bigoted, prejudiced, conspiratorial and simply illogical views that they would have regardless of religion. It's annoying when people who clearly aren't very smart mouth off on subjects they know nothing about. Also, religious conservatism does not gel with rock music. The two are diametrically opposed.

["Tele" Steve]

Granted, he has a point about not having kids if you can't take care of them but the issue, especially in Africa, is never quite that simple.

[getts182]

thedukeofprunes wrote:

[Christians] think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

Please don't paint us all with that brush. As a Christian, I find Mustiane's comments reprehensible. They marginalize, which is something opposite of what I believe is at the core of Jesus' teachings. The God I believe in is one of love, a God of love, understanding, and compassion. The God I believe in loves His children all the same, whether they're born in the United States or Africa, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or anywhere in between.

I don't mean that to be preachy -- I know religion can be rather...touchy...here -- but I want to get the point across that we're not narrow-minded zealots. As with a lot of cases, this is just another example of the guy with the loudest mouth making everyone look bad.

[burnummaster]

Dave what are you doing?!

[westley23j]

getts182 wrote:

thedukeofprunes wrote:

[Christians] think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.


Please don't paint us all with that brush. As a Christian, I find Mustiane's comments reprehensible. They marginalize, which is something opposite of what I believe is at the core of Jesus' teachings. The God I believe in is one of love, a God of love, understanding, and compassion. The God I believe in loves His children all the same, whether they're born in the United States or Africa, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or anywhere in between.

I don't mean that to be preachy -- I know religion can be rather...touchy...here -- but I want to get the point across that we're not narrow-minded zealots. As with a lot of cases, this is just another example of the guy with the loudest mouth making everyone look bad.

you TOTALLY shoulda just said "we are not ALL narrow minded zealots."

you gotta try your best to make religious arguments air-tight in these parts....

[getts182]

westley23j wrote:

you TOTALLY shoulda just said "we are not ALL narrow minded zealots."

you gotta try your best to make religious arguments air-tight in these parts....

Thanks. I originally had that in there. That's exactly what I meant, too.

[meringo]

Mustaine, put a plug in it. You are hurting the metal fan base by creating stereotypes that we are all ignorant and racist like you.

I no longer respect you. I think a lot of metal fans here no longer respect you. Shut up before you sink ship completely.

[Kingwiff606]

If I have an imaginary friend I'm labeled crazy or insane, if lots of people have an imaginary friend it's labeled religion, regardless of religion which Is probably the most dangerous weapon on the planet, Dave makes a valid point. Too many doo gooders beating around the bush, would you have six kids if you could not feed them? No exactly these people need serious answers to the problem as aids is also spread this way, this conversation is annoying and I can't see why people are so quick to jump to petty conclusions

[fede01_8]

a dumb metalhead, is that news?

[Banti]

He stopped whining about getting kicked from metallica, and now he has new stuff to whine about XD

[spiff-corgi]

Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".

[spiff-corgi]

Even if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in faith, you've got to understand, when Israel became a country again, that was a prophecy in the Bible that came true, and the Bible was written so many hundreds of years ago

And therefore everything in the Bible is right.

[Black Ox]

Mustaine's right. Deal with it.

[Sladey]

Mustaine has the IQ of a mule.

[ZOSO <(")]

dave mustaine is so friggin cool, when he speaks awesome-ness happens.

[DamagingExcess]

The reason most of these women have that many babies is because they are consistently raped multiple times. Are you really that dumb Dave. Last shred of respect gone

[meringo]

Kingwiff606 wrote:

If I have an imaginary friend I'm labeled crazy or insane, if lots of people have an imaginary friend it's labeled religion, regardless of religion which Is probably the most dangerous weapon on the planet, Dave makes a valid point. Too many doo gooders beating around the bush, would you have six kids if you could not feed them? No exactly these people need serious answers to the problem as aids is also spread this way, this conversation is annoying and I can't see why people are so quick to jump to petty conclusions

Educate yourself. Please read up on gender equality, access to family planning, religious and social pressures in Africa, and the political systems that exist in Africa which cripple traditional family ideals.

[Randomrings]

They do put a plug in it, it's called rape. That's how they end up with six kids Dave. His comment on the other hand works perfectly for starving American women with six kids

[ChucklesMginty]

spiff-corgi wrote:

Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".

Not to mention a certain religious group telling them condoms increase the risk of AIDS.

[Calymos]

Isn't anybody else annoyed by the fact that UG never gets their own news? Is it just me?

[Dregen]

Well, I guess natural selection has failed again.

How can someone be this goddamn stupid?

[SkepsisMetal]

Oh dear...

[Gibson1983]

Those women should just listen to a Megadeth record, that'll teach them the world's too ****ed up to put children on it.

[Suckerpunchme!]

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

Agreed. There's plenty of white trash in the US doing the exact same thing. Get ****ing sick of paying for their unemployment, food stamps, medical, etc. because they don't have any ****ing sense.

[HOMICIDE69]

Lolwut? You crazeh Megadave

[kramer242]

I do agree with most of what Mustaine is saying. How many of us have wanted to say this but havent cuz god help we offend someone. I think he was wrong about singling out Africa because this goes on all over the world, although looking at the state of many areas of Africa, its easy to see why it got singled out. Also, children who are the products of rape cannot be helped, but while rape is rampant over there, I would bet any money it is only causes a small portion of the increase in population in poor African areas. It would also be nice if some of the donations made went towards condoms and other resources, to help prevent pregnancy, along with the food. I feel for the people who are not trying to bring children into a poor lifestyle, because the ones who do, with little caution, are making them look bad.

[$hithappen$16]

so i was ok with the whole gay marriage thing (even though i disagreed with him, i respected his opinion) but this is just stupid. Hey Dave guess what? Single mothers in poverty stricken countries are under different circumstances than single mothers in developed countries. They can't afford birth control or condoms. To get an abortion is unsanitary since they are not done in proper facilities like those in America. Also, statistics of rape are very high in those countries. Here's a fun fact: did you know that in many impoverished parts of Africa it is very common for some men to resort to old candy rappers and plastic bags for condoms? Mabey Dave should watch a few documentaries and do some research before he makes such a huge a** of himself

[JoshUrban]

Obviously Dave doesn't understand...basically anything. He should research issues before he comments on them. He gives the rest of us musicians a bad name, perpetuating the stereotype of the unthinking and clueless musician. Boo!

[jetfuel495]

Well, as retarded as he is, he has a point when he says don't have kids that you can't feed.

But, his bible comments again...

[kramer242]

Agreed. There's plenty of white trash in the US doing the exact same thing. Get ****ing sick of paying for their unemployment, food stamps, medical, etc. because they don't have any ****ing sense.

So I collect unemployment, which I payed 8 grand into, n your paying for it. Do your research, you have to pay so much in before you get any back. You sound like someone who never held a job long enough to collect.

[kramer242]

that was supposed to quote suckerpunch

[i_am_metalhead]

but he may underestimate that contraception is poorly distributed in certain areas of Africa.

This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read, UG. Its called abstinence. Don't want/shouldn't have kids? Don't have sex. It's that simple.

[Megafall]

yeah...im a christian...and i feel like ppl like this totly misrepresent us...gay marrage is wrong...ill stand with him on that...but this is just stupid..

[thedukeofprunes]

getts182 wrote:

thedukeofprunes wrote:

[Christians] think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

Please don't paint us all with that brush. As a Christian, I find Mustiane's comments reprehensible. They marginalize, which is something opposite of what I believe is at the core of Jesus' teachings. The God I believe in is one of love, a God of love, understanding, and compassion. The God I believe in loves His children all the same, whether they're born in the United States or Africa, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or anywhere in between.

I don't mean that to be preachy -- I know religion can be rather...touchy...here -- but I want to get the point across that we're not narrow-minded zealots. As with a lot of cases, this is just another example of the guy with the loudest mouth making everyone look bad.

With all due respect, I don't find it necessary to focus on extremists and loud-mouths to tell that the religious dogma in itself is immoral and evil. And it is undoubtedly true that christians (as well as other servants to monotheistic cults, foremost) have gotten away with the most despicable and horrible statements only due to the fact that they are "a person of faith".

I found this display of ignorance and adventurism from Dave Mustaines side immoral, and it is not an exception from what I usually hear from religious people. There are many things that can't be justified when it comes to religious peoples view on what ethics and morals is, and it doesn't have to be as apparent and controversial as this particular topic.

People should not be satisfied with explanations of love and tolerance when it comes to totalitarian rulers of another world. Especially if you've actually read the bible. Everyone should have the choice to believe in what they want in the privacy of their home, but acts of such stupidity cannot be left contented.

[jurnag12]

Alright, I'm now convinced that people are just asking Dave's opinion on random subjects jsut to watch the firestorms start.
I give it a week before someone asks his opinion on the subject of abortion.

[felixramsey]

I agree. Everyone wants to pick people's comments apart. If it's the least bit offensive, they wanna crucify you. Stop being so god damn sensitive.

[$hithappen$16]

[quote]i_am_metalhead wrote:

but he may underestimate that contraception is poorly distributed in certain areas of Africa.


This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read, UG. Its called abstinence. Don't want/shouldn't have kids? Don't have sex. It's that simple. [/quote
Yea don't get raped it's that simple.
Idiot, he's not talking about America he's talking about a third world country. There are many different factors that contribute to single parenthood over there. Do some research...mabey read a book? You know that thing with the symbols that form words and holds information?

[zalant]

While I agree that Mustaine is being very short-sighted here, I fail to see how Dave's comments can be construed as racist. He said that he was watching shows "from over in Africa." Not once did he attribute that lack of common sense (as he views it) to the women's skin color. I know that many will say that using the word "Africa" is just a sneaky way of not having to mention skin color, but then I'd counter that you're actively looking for racism. Are the shows themselves racist for portraying dark-skinned women in Africa as having not enough common sense to not get raped?

[guitarist41]

I agree with him. I've always wondered what the **** was up with that.

[electric_c0ck]

the kids are starving in africa and there is lots of diseases. mustaine isnt even talking about african-american women hes talking about the poor country of africa where they have too many kids and the kids get aids/starve to death and dont make it to a double digit age. this is my first time leaving a comment but i read articles and comments and alot of you people are morons.

[strat0blaster]

Mustaine; the Courtney Love of metal.

[Shyak]

UG has a thing against Dave Mustaine or what?

[HammettIsKing]

I get that people want to have kids, but I understand where he's coming from. No one wants to see starving kids. A child needs more care than yourself and if you can barely care for yourself at that time, then you should hold off on having kids till you can.

[ShakeMe90]

I've been saying this for years. He's completely right. No one needs 6 kids that they can't take care of. That goes for American families too who get more food stamp money off their kids.

[sage76]

He has a good ****ing point. Seriously. Fuck all this political correctness bullshit. When you know you are living in draught and war conditions since forever....the least you could do is not put another 10 kids through a short miserable life full of diseases.

[Vinson]

Wow! What an age we live in when common sense, and logic are looked at as "outrageous"!!!!
Yes, if you can feed a kid, DON'T have one! You don't NEED a contraceptive to prevent pregnancy....just don't have sex!
Dave....you are WAY more "right" than these DOLTS trying to rip on you are.
Dave for Pres!!!

[MountApple]

I think African women getting raped is part of the problem.

[acdc51502112]

"While Christianity is generally an understanding and forgiving religion" LMFAO someone has no clue what they are talking about. Go read one of the versions of the bible and come back to me.

getts182 wrote on 02/24/2012 - 10:42 am / quote |

"Please don't paint us all with that brush. As a Christian, I find Mustiane's comments reprehensible. They marginalize, which is something opposite of what I believe is at the core of Jesus' teachings. The God I believe in is one of love, a God of love, understanding, and compassion. The God I believe in loves His children all the same, whether they're born in the United States or Africa, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or anywhere in between.

I don't mean that to be preachy -- I know religion can be rather...touchy...here -- but I want to get the point across that we're not narrow-minded zealots. As with a lot of cases, this is just another example of the guy with the loudest mouth making everyone look bad."

I'm sorry, ALL religion is narrow-minded, that is the WHOLE POINT. Religion is all about hating others and forcing others to believe the same thing as you. Again read your religious text before attaching yourself to that belief. You are not a Christian, if anything the westbro baptist church is one of the few actually christians there are (except for the fact they don't kill non-believes and yes that is in the bible where you are commanded to do so by god). You don't need to be part of any religious group, you can believe whatever you want just don't let a group talk for you and tell you what you believe.

[BigMikeBDD]

Those that disagree with his points are just part of the problem. Same goes for those in the US....if you can't afford it, stop having children. Is it really that difficult of a concept?

[Wallofeyes]

as far as I can see no-one has claimed this to be a racist comment thankfully! It's certainly not racist but it's insanely short-sighted and ignorant. I feel ashamed to have shook this mans hand, dude was a dick when I met him. Celebrities have the power of influence and the things they say can be dangerous. And for those who say be abstinent and celibate? Fucking try it.

[Clayden82]

colddayinthesun wrote:

The Bible was written hundreds of years ago?

He means it was written hundreds of years before the predicted events happened. If you're talking from now then it was written thousands of years ago

[Michael Stewart]

He's not racist. Seriously, if you can't feed your kids, then you shouldn't have them. The kids are suffering because their parents think about themselves rather than their children. If anyone says anything about a black person, they are racist. That's how it is. If a black person is racist against white people, it's not called racism. It's reversed racism. Bull shit. Being racist is being racist. You can't be reversed racist. As for the second comment, he's crazy. The middle east has been fighting since the beginning of time.

[the dean97]

i completley agree with Dave here, because if you can barley feed 2 kids then you have another and cant feed them then they all die. So in a way this a prolife statement, all though i foresee many arrogant peolple being offended by this, but as they are dumb , their input means nothing.

[nailsarecruel]

Africa is a sadly and complexly screwed up country, but it's nice of Dave to simplify the issue by implying the women are totally hot to trot baby factories. Rape, lack of sexual education and religious driven ignorance? No way. Those ladies are always on the prowl for some blacksnake.

[bmarlatt1685]

HowSoonisNow wrote:

Like what someone else here said, we have a similar problem here in the States. It's all about the lack of sex education. It makes me sick when parents refuse to let their kids go to sex ed. How will they ever know the truth? A lot of teens probably think pulling out is good enough.

My parents refused to send me to sex ed too... What a pair of sick *******s they must've been to tell me everything I needed to know about sex.

[Wallofeyes]

Why does everyone keep going on about racism when no-one has claimed this to be racist?

[Clayden82]

What Dave Mustaine says about the Bible is true. The Bible spoke about stuff that happened thousands of years later, and there are hundreds of examples like the one Dave has used. The Bible is the only true Word of God.

[Swanny1989]

I do agree with the idea that women and people who can't even afford to feed themselves should NOT be having children. But it is not just African women, it's women all races and ethnicities who make alot of wrong choices and so their kids end up having to pay for it! Even here in America we have women, of several different races, who don't even have jobs, who are pluggin out more babies than they can properly feed and take care of. And this is a worldwide issue too! This, to me, is outrageous and disgusting!
Tell me I'm wrong...

[acdc51502112]

Clayden82 wrote:

What Dave Mustaine says about the Bible is true. The Bible spoke about stuff that happened thousands of years later, and there are hundreds of examples like the one Dave has used. The Bible is the only true Word of God.

ROFL which Bible? since they are thousands of different bibles that say very different things

[Comeback Kiddd]

It's articles like these that let me know how educated some UG members are.

[getts182]

thedukeofprunes wrote:

With all due respect, I don't find it necessary to focus on extremists and loud-mouths to tell that the religious dogma in itself is immoral and evil. And it is undoubtedly true that christians (as well as other servants to monotheistic cults, foremost) have gotten away with the most despicable and horrible statements only due to the fact that they are "a person of faith".

While I obviously don't agree with the sentiment that religion itself is "immoral and evil", I do agree that people have committed horrible acts because they said God told them to. Take terrorists of any religious stripe, for example. Almost any practitioner of that faith will tell you the person who used God and their beliefs in such a manner has committed a perversion of the faith. No one should, as you said, get away with committing atrocities because "God told them to." Personally, I don't think that's how God works.

I found this display of ignorance and adventurism from Dave Mustaines side immoral, and it is not an exception from what I usually hear from religious people. There are many things that can't be justified when it comes to religious peoples view on what ethics and morals is, and it doesn't have to be as apparent and controversial as this particular topic.

I agree. I live in a red, red state, and I often hear/read things from people of my faith that seems to completely contradict basic principles of "love one another" and "do unto others as you would have done unto you." Morality can, in my opinion, be a tricky subject, and I think all sides of an argument have value. I find it unfortunate that many people, religious and irreligious shut out the opposite side because "they're right."

People should not be satisfied with explanations of love and tolerance when it comes to totalitarian rulers of another world. Especially if you've actually read the bible. Everyone should have the choice to believe in what they want in the privacy of their home, but acts of such stupidity cannot be left contented.

Again, totalitarian rulers are an extreme, often perverting the faith they claim to follow. Zealots always give people who try to follow their faith quietly and respectfully a bad name. Militant atheists do the same for those who simply don't believe there is a God and leave it at that. No one should have someone else's views shoved down their throats, and no one should be labeled a freak because someone else takes their faith (or lack thereof) to an extreme.

Hopefully that all made sense. I think we agree that his points on the subject were out of line. At the risk of this turning wholly off-topic or becoming a tangent, I'll respectfully leave it at that and wish you well.

[Sidlavs]

It follows similarly controversial comments on gay marriage, where he refused to support legislation to allow two men to marry.

I guess this is only normal. Or maybe you guys in the USA think otherwise. I don't know.

You've got to understand, when Israel became a country again, that was a prophecy in the Bible that came true, and the Bible was written so many hundreds of years ago.

This is crap though. I may accept the main values behind Christianity but why should people living in the other side of the world bother so much about stuff happening in the Middle-east 2000 years ago. Jews are not a privileged nation. Let's cut that crap. And even though you could count this thing as a true prophecy, I really don't think it's anything special.

[kramer242]

one, just because it is a matter of opinion, i dont feel religion needed to be brought into this.

2. While I have my beliefs I dont see how you could follow one religion without researching other religions n then seeing if your 100% certain your religion is proper.
3. Modern day christianity was instilled with a lot of falsities as a rule by fear method to keep people in line. As you can see today the brainwashing continues.
4. I dont know how anybody can follow a book that has over 55000 factual errors n contradictions. Then again I dont know how anyone can submit to any organized religion, considering, with proper research, all religions are heavily flawed. Christianity just happens to be towards the top of the pack. I say have your faith but research what you believe in better. Now can we [lz get back to topic

[ozzrhoads1982]

And what about about virgins who get HIV because it's a widespread misconception that sleeping with a virgin cures you of your HIV? Should they put a plug in it, too? I'm all for free speech and one voicing his or her opinions, but come on, Dave.

[AcdcTXfan]

I completely agree with Dave on this one. I was watching a video about this stuff for my geography class last semester and the exact same thought came to my head. They think having children will help them because it supplies them with more workers, but it does almost the opposite. Africa does not have enough wealth and resources to support 1 billion+ people.

[kramer242]

wow never heard that HIV is cured by screwin a virgin

[ozzrhoads1982]

I apologize, I meant *about*

[acdc51502112]

getts182 wrote:
While I obviously don't agree with the sentiment that religion itself is "immoral and evil", I do agree that people have committed horrible acts because they said God told them to. Take terrorists of any religious stripe, for example. Almost any practitioner of that faith will tell you the person who used God and their beliefs in such a manner has committed a perversion of the faith. No one should, as you said, get away with committing atrocities because "God told them to." Personally, I don't think that's how God works.

How can one determine if you are just wrong in assuming you know what god wants.

[Jordoro]

spiff-corgi wrote:

Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".

This should have just ended the discussion.

[henboyrules]

I completely support what Dave's been saying!!!! He's a good man with good values! If you can't feed them, control yourself!

[kramer242]

hmmmm how about Jericho
How about the destruction of the Philistines.
How about the death and destruction caused by so called holy wars in the old testament. How do you know none of this was assuming wrong of what god wants, yet all you christians follow it.

[spiff-corgi]

Jordoro wrote:

spiff-corgi wrote:

Why don't famous people think before speaking. Why do African people have lots of children? They have little access to condoms firstly. Secondly there is a very low survival rate and in order to keep a family going they need kids to start work as young as possible. If one of their kids dies that's one source of income lost, so they have as many kids as they can so they can afford to stay alive as a family. Yes, it's a broken system, but not something that can be solved by simply "putting a plug in it".
This should have just ended the discussion.

Thank you, and I, obviously, agree. :P
A lot of the comments after mine are written based on a completely false assumption as to why families in Africa are so big.

[Sparda93]

I find Dave Mustaine to be a bigheaded retard, magnificent songwriter, but GODDAMN SHUT UP!

[MusicMan24]

I liked Dave before all of this stuff...Not so much now.

[Eifler121]

Just so you guys know, most Christians are not like this.

[kramer242]

truthfully I commented cuz it was an interesting topic. I didnt realize Mustaine was really that relevant anymore. Now I'm going to go back to listening to my failure cd

[kramer242]

and most christians I have met in my little christian communiy are like this. Its the the rare few that are different that I have no problem with.

[calstercal]

As far as I remember, he didn't make any "outrageous" comments over Gay Marriage, he talked about religious views on gay marriage (Which wasn't even in detail) but he didn't say anything over the top on Gay Marriage.

[The_Drooge]

Not even a super Freddy Mercury Facepalm could express how I feel about Mustaine lately. His intentions are kinda there, but he says it in the dumbest ways he could find.

[-Annihilation-]

Dave Mustaine: The next Gallagher

[Apocalypse4162]

He should write a song about it, he made an ignorant comment without first researching.. So it's kinda funny that he said such an outrageous thing, albeit true lol

[Bati]

And this is why we'll never see a Megadeath "Unplugged" album.

[ne14t]

I am currently deleting all the Megadeth off my iPod, I fear I will become too much like Dave Mustaine if I am over exposed to it and I would rather not be a over zealous racist bigot.

[JohnVanOevelen]

You know what they say... Once an *******, always an *******!

Way the go Mustaine!

[Tallica9000]

"While Christianity is generally an understanding and forgiving religion, it can often conflict with modern liberal views."

Thank you Mr. Guitar Journalist man for enlightening me on the deeper aspects of theology! I totally wouldn't have understood this issue if you hadn't pointed out this profound fact!

[ovation08]

LOL LOL

[xzxw]

*facepalm*

[MetalMike676]

Why isn't the man allowed to express his opinions?

If you can be in support of gay marriage, you can certainly be against it. I am, not because of my religious views, I just beleive marriage should be between a man and woman, sue me.

Several people are in favor of re electing Obama, I for one won't be voting for him, not because of his color or party, the man hasn't done a damn thing for this country and gets rewarded for doing absolutely nothing.

If Dave is in favor of Santorum, who cares! We're all entitled to our own views and opinions, goddamn.

He's right on this too, people who cannot afford children SHOULD NOT HAVE KIDS! You can't afford birth control/protection? Don't have sex! If you're in poverty sex should be on the bottom of your list of worries, regardless of which country you're from.

thedukeofprunes wrote:
Fucking christians. They think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

Fucking self proclaimed atheists who are in their teens and think they know all of the mysteries to life because of their highschool/some college education, and therefore are more intellegent than every other person on the planet.

I love how you say Christians and conservatives are hypocritical and force their beleifs on others. Aren't you doing the exact same thing with your remarks and condemning others for not sharing the same view points as you?

[Nameless742]

Man has opinions.
STONE HIM!

[hereticfive]

he is absolutely correct

[Leo.fday]

Mustaine is getting angry again

[getts182]

He's right on this too, people who cannot afford children SHOULD NOT HAVE KIDS! You can't afford birth control/protection? Don't have sex! If you're in poverty sex should be on the bottom of your list of worries, regardless of which country you're from.

The problem with Mustaine's statement is that it's wholly ignorant of the problems Africa faces, such as lack of sex education, and rape.

[MeGaDeth2314]

I'm 99% sure that not every woman in Africa has 6 or more kids...and if they do, they have a good reason to, or it was an accident. It's not because they're stupid or "primitive." Only a truly heartless person would have a kid if they know it's going to starve and die. People in Africa really aren't as different from people in other continents as some may think.

[SmittyMan90]

Dave, Dave.....

[Irueludruel]

100%right.

[jetfuel495]

Actually, I take back what I said. Dave doesn't have a point regardless. He doesn't understand how society works in those areas and that these women don't have the rights they do in America and they're probably having these kids against their own will. Rape is a huge problem in Africa, and some women don't have a say in when they want to even have non-rapey sex. Daddy just wants to bust a nut.

It's not like these women are having six kids apiece because they want them, you know.

[coco-axeman]

In any situation, there's the offensive way to express an opinion and there's the smarter way to do it. Dave has repeatedly been choosing to use the former.

[Xarith0]

Mustaine's an as*hole, and thats why I like him!

[adamzam]

man he's right. stop reproducing. the earth has far to many people on it. Dave's not a douche he speaking what is known and no one has the balls to say anything about it. Black, orange, yellow, brown what ever color it doesn't matter we all need to take a five or six year break from reproducing.

[Vindictor]

I think what he should've said was that higher levels of sexual education and wider accessibility of contraception are needed in parts of Africa.

[toothless tim]

UG is just trying to stir up a reaction. Don;t respond. You are better than this.

[onetonryan]

I like this guy more and more.

[StoneDeadForevr]

Kudo's Dave. So many of us are thinking it, but he has the balls to say it. The culture in Africa is primitive to say the least. Not sure where these "plugs" are going to come from though. Abstinence isn't going to happen that's for damn sure.

[Chronologo]

If you ever had good sex you know it's fantastic. Sex is one of the few things that poor people can enjoy, and with all the biological enzymes and all that stuff that makes you feel good while doing it there's no clue why they have so many children, in their situation there's no way to have any protection like condoms or pills.

[Year Zero]

Dave is the one that needs put a plug in it. His mouth that is.

[DimebagsGhost67]

Anomie wrote:

Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles.

Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone...

It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard.

Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.

Thats exactly how it seems to me. Dave is my all time driving inspiration to my playing and songwriting and it hurts to see the way he goes off on things in the press and then uses his religon as a motivation and shield when for years hes been potraying himself as a freethinker and my respect has been dwindling aswell.

[Root Beer]

I agree, I agree with the point he's TRYING to make, but when he states it that way, it can only be offensive.

Also, I'd like to point out that Dave does not represent Chriatians as a whole; he really has no idea what he is talking about. The bible is mostly a bunch of stories, not actual facts, each one to be taken literally.

[motorizer]

PUT A PLUG IN IT AND KILL THE SICK

[Benjumanji]

UG is turning into a damn tabloid.

[killyerscene]

killing for religion, is sumthin i dont understand

[dicky_fish]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

but he may underestimate that contraception is poorly distributed in certain areas of Africa.


This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read, UG. Its called abstinence. Don't want/shouldn't have kids? Don't have sex. It's that simple.

It's not simple douchbag! Have you seen the rape statistics for Africa?

[jordanzio]

ahh Dave. opening his mouth about issues he clearly doesn't understand.

1. Sub-Saharan Africa is a place rife with poverty, disease and RAPE, which is not the fault of women.

2. birth control is virtually non -existent there

3. along with extreme poverty comes a lack of any real education. Women are not able to make educated decisions about child-bearing.

4. boredom. In places like Sub-Saharan Africa and areas in India people literally having nothing to do. they have no money, no possessions, and nothing to take up their time. Sex is one of the most basic pastimes.

5. Dave you can't tell me you haven't stuck it in way more women than you have kids, so don't act as though you are all high and mighty. the Fact that you don't have a kid for everytime you have had sex (or many of the times at least) is due to first world innovations and luxuries (readily available, cheap birth control)

[guitar_shredda*]

Some of the posts on here are absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. If you have never been to Africa then don't comment. "Condoms are not freely available" That is absolute trash! Im from South Africa and almost every bathroom you walk into on the street or in the malls has plenty of free condoms available. Many black men here do not use them because in their culture it is "un-manly" to use condoms. Contraception is also available from any pharmacy for about 7 US dollars and from any public health clinic for free. Many black people here simply do not care for contraception or condoms, its just something that is embedded in the mindset of many people here and the government has been trying hard to change that especially due to the HIV pandemic. I know at the varsity I go to people do not take the free condoms whether you are black white coloured or blue so I guess the governments free condom plans have failed.

[COREYTAYLOR721]

creating jobs by making plugs for the female population of africa, its a scheme plug em' up.

[MechaDio]

Dave Mustaine is one of my favorite musicians and a complete ass of a person. This is disgusting and ignorant.

[Spartan101400]

Dave has got to go.

[AnEvilWalrus]

Holy shit. I have never seen anyone go so far downhill so quickly.

[Swanny1989]

Metallica fanboys must be gettin' a kick outa this shit!

[arnolddrummer]

It's simpler said than done. I mean we can't expect them to not have kids until they are provided with birth control.

[jordanzio]

Some of the posts on here are absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. If you have never been to Africa then don't comment. "Condoms are not freely available" That is absolute trash! Im from South Africa and almost every bathroom you walk into on the street or in the malls has plenty of free condoms available. Many black men here do not use them because in their culture it is "un-manly" to use condoms. Contraception is also available from any pharmacy for about 7 US dollars and from any public health clinic for free. Many black people here simply do not care for contraception or condoms, its just something that is embedded in the mindset of many people here and the government has been trying hard to change that especially due to the HIV pandemic. I know at the varsity I go to people do not take the free condoms whether you are black white coloured or blue so I guess the governments free condom plans have failed.

> "Varsity i go to"
> mfw you are not poor and clearly are upper class. Your point is moot.

[ffaf12]

WOW! THIS GUYS MORE OF A P###K THAN I INITIALLY THOUGHT HE WAS

[ffaf12]

"or should he use his public platform as he pleases?"
HE MAKES AWFUL MUSIC HIS OPINIONS ARE VOID.

[jhart08]

love him or hate him, he's right. Whats a bigger sin, using a condom or having kids knowing you can't feed them and then make them suffer? Big-time moral dilemma.

[pailoong]

"...and his backing of Rick Santorum which provoked a huge reaction in the UG community."

Yeah, because the UG "community" is actually important.

[one-dead-cop]

What's all this nonsense about condoms?? Do women being raped ask the guy if he's wearing a condom first? Dave Mustaine's an imbecile, and so is anyone who defends him.

[guitar7masta]

this is pathetic, every day he says something stupid, it almost makes me want to burn his CD's. this guy is so out of touch

[thedukeofprunes]

MetalMike676 wrote:

Why isn't the man allowed to express his opinions?

If you can be in support of gay marriage, you can certainly be against it. I am, not because of my religious views, I just beleive marriage should be between a man and woman, sue me.

Several people are in favor of re electing Obama, I for one won't be voting for him, not because of his color or party, the man hasn't done a damn thing for this country and gets rewarded for doing absolutely nothing.

If Dave is in favor of Santorum, who cares! We're all entitled to our own views and opinions, goddamn.

He's right on this too, people who cannot afford children SHOULD NOT HAVE KIDS! You can't afford birth control/protection? Don't have sex! If you're in poverty sex should be on the bottom of your list of worries, regardless of which country you're from.

thedukeofprunes wrote:
Fucking christians. They think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

Fucking self proclaimed atheists who are in their teens and think they know all of the mysteries to life because of their highschool/some college education, and therefore are more intellegent than every other person on the planet.

I love how you say Christians and conservatives are hypocritical and force their beleifs on others. Aren't you doing the exact same thing with your remarks and condemning others for not sharing the same view points as you?

MetalMike676 wrote:

Why isn't the man allowed to express his opinions?

If you can be in support of gay marriage, you can certainly be against it. I am, not because of my religious views, I just beleive marriage should be between a man and woman, sue me.

Several people are in favor of re electing Obama, I for one won't be voting for him, not because of his color or party, the man hasn't done a damn thing for this country and gets rewarded for doing absolutely nothing.

If Dave is in favor of Santorum, who cares! We're all entitled to our own views and opinions, goddamn.

He's right on this too, people who cannot afford children SHOULD NOT HAVE KIDS! You can't afford birth control/protection? Don't have sex! If you're in poverty sex should be on the bottom of your list of worries, regardless of which country you're from.

thedukeofprunes wrote:
Fucking christians. They think they can get away with the utmost idiotic and immoral statments because they have some sort of supernatural, occult warranty.

Fucking self proclaimed atheists who are in their teens and think they know all of the mysteries to life because of their highschool/some college education, and therefore are more intellegent than every other person on the planet.

I love how you say Christians and conservatives are hypocritical and force their beleifs on others. Aren't you doing the exact same thing with your remarks and condemning others for not sharing the same view points as you?

Well, sir Good Ol’ Boy.
Could you be so kind to tell me where I ever said that Christians and conservatives (concerning the last mentioned - which I am confident I never brought up in this discussion…?) are forcing their beliefs on others? I simply stated that Christians in many cases get away with saying outrageous things which concerns basic (at least in my and many others opinion) moral and ethical values. Is this not true, sir? I have yet to be persuaded by you or anyone else on this issue (not to sound narrow-minded, as all free-thinking people who do not bend over to a dictator in the sky supposedly are).
A big problem with religion is that the slightest bit of criticism is mistaken for arrogance. For thousands of years religion has been allowed do it’s damage, and people who don’t obey to an all-knowing God, such as myself (and many others), have been kept silent. I, just as Dave Mustaine, have voiced my opinion. I feel that neither of us is trying to impose our way of life on anyone – neither Dave upon the readers of this article, nor I by commenting on this website. Though I am worried about the effect of this buffoon’s words may have on gullible fans (for example), so I simply said what I felt. I felt that what he is saying is astoundingly ignorant and immoral, and that he belittles what is a very complex (all too complex for him to even comment on) and serious problem in Africa. The fact that his very foolish statements seem to be rooted in his Christian faith is also upsetting, and the point I am making is that religious figures have for a long time gotten away with for example saying “condoms are bad, and I know millions of people in Africa will die in AIDS because of my condemnation of condoms”. And it’s OK, because he has the good lord on his side, and wears a pointy hat. This is by my account EVIL.
Saying that I think that I am smarter than anyone else for voicing an unpopular opinion (I am making an adequate guess in thinking that the majority of the members of this site are in fact American) is a very easy way to avoid discussing these is

[motorizer]

Thats my Dave! ..

[theshadow180]

oh dave im starting to lose all respect for you which is a real shame cus i love your music X(

on another note (to quote russell howard) 'THATS EASY FOR YOU TO SAY! THERES FUCK ALL TO DO IN ANGOLA!! THEY HAVENT EVEN GOT A NANDOS!!!

[guitar7masta]

guitar_shredda* wrote:

Some of the posts on here are absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. If you have never been to Africa then don't comment. "Condoms are not freely available" That is absolute trash! Im from South Africa and almost every bathroom you walk into on the street or in the malls has plenty of free condoms available. Many black men here do not use them because in their culture it is "un-manly" to use condoms. Contraception is also available from any pharmacy for about 7 US dollars and from any public health clinic for free. Many black people here simply do not care for contraception or condoms, its just something that is embedded in the mindset of many people here and the government has been trying hard to change that especially due to the HIV pandemic. I know at the varsity I go to people do not take the free condoms whether you are black white coloured or blue so I guess the governments free condom plans have failed.

next time you take a trip to africa, go to a the poorer areas which mustaine was referring to. this is like saying Cancun is a 100 percent accurate representation of Mexico

SMH

[10bag]

i dont care what you guys say, he's right. they need some tv's or something so they stop humping all day lol

[saint_berzerker]

Wonder if he'd say the same thing to Mexican's?

[KNEESLAPPINGTON]

Will somebody just put a bullet in this guy's head already? I hear heaven (or hell) is short a guitarist.

[codyjt5150]

i agree with dave, why the **** are you on welfare when you keep drowning yourself in some nigga's liquid babies.

[Fuzzface16]

What a f---ing dick dude! I mean seriously Dave needs to put a plug in it, seriously. All week the dudes been an ass about saying Rick Sanitorum and then the Gay rights. Who Does he think he is to be going all over the place and smashing everything that he feels is wrong??? Oh it's ok though he's a 'Christian' and Dave Mustain of Megadeth so it's ok… ya whatever. Every time I see an article on Dave Mustain I keep loosing more and more respect of him. Dickhead

[Stratcat70]

Randomrings wrote:

They do put a plug in it, it's called rape. That's how they end up with six kids Dave. His comment on the other hand works perfectly for starving American women with six kids

True to a point, however, if you go to Walmart, you would see these women are VERY VERY far from 'starving'.

[dbanuelos]

i think dave has a point. except he shouldnt have singled out Africa. I myslef have a kid and he's a blessing dont get me wrong, but it was because i was stupid enough to have sex when i didnt have the adequate contraceptives. Yea alot of women in africa get raped and what not but that doesnt account for ALL of the women having kids over there. And like someone else said before me, If you live in a place of poverty, sex should be the last thing on your mind! If they dont have money for the contraceptives, then just dont have sex period!!

[Vypor]

KNEESLAPPINGTON wrote:

Will somebody just put a bullet in this guy's head already? I hear heaven (or hell) is short a guitarist.

I disagree strongly with Mustaine, but he is a great and influential guitar player, and that is an absolutely terrible thing to say.

And +1 to everyone who took the time to point out that rape statistics in Africa are very high, which is something I think Mustaine never considered.

[erithlon]

What a dumb ****

[Bananafish003]

Someone please explain to me how his comment about African women could possibly not be horribly ignorant. It's not just lack of contraception (which is an issue), it's a lack of sex education and high instances of rape. How ****ing stupid do you have to be to blame the women for their situation?

[Skuzzmo]

Oh come on... UG is trolling us.

Getting bored with the out of context sensationalist mustaine/lars articles designed to get nothing but a kneejerk reaction out of the readership....

[crissfoo06]

come on dave , you're making it really hard to like you .

[rebeltildeth87]

wow, hes gone beyond ridiculous. A lot of the children in Africa are products of rape. He should spend his time bitching to the pope about the churchs stance on contraception. Also "While Christianity is generally an understanding and forgiving religion" what a crock of shit. Its based on a hypocritical, capricious, genocidal, homophobic, barbaric, slave master, tribal god who sends people to hell who disbelieve in his son, who he had murdered by the way. Its idiotic to consider Israels situation as fulfillment of prophecy. The people who help Israel become an independent nation are the same people who thought it was necessary to end the world. They read the prophecies and wanted it to happen. And am I the only one whos tired of hearing all this "the book of revelations is coming true" shit? its so ****ing vague that youd have to be an idiot not to see it. I hear people say this all the time but they cant point to anything specific. Its "Obama is the antichrist", "2012 is gonna end the world". Ive completely lost faith in Mustaine. Hes turned into another religitard who feels he has to preach his batshit ideas. So sad

[crissfoo06]

and that ladies and gentlemen , is what too much religion does to you .

[philwhite]

I'm starting to like the new dave. I think this article is just another attempt at UG trying to make news that really isn't.

[samgrahaminc]

He's making it very hard to like him.

[Jakerumbles]

Makes me proud to be a fan.

[BryceD546]

Its reasons like this that i always get scared when i hear someone in the metal community has found god...it always makes me worry if they will believe some of the hateful things some religions reach...

[BryceD546]

*preach

[nnb]

aznspadez wrote:

Well considering how contraception is not widely available in Africa, the women may not necessarily infer that the women have a choice of "plugging it" or having children at all. Consider a woman who has a firm christian belief but has a child in an unfortunate circumstance, would she need to "put a plug in it?" Moreover, when considering the lack of contraception and often unreported cases of rape, it is very possible that those children are themselves products of rape. I know that republican ideology or christian ideology considers abortion murder, but it now begs the question, are victims of rape responsible for the birth and development of children conceived through rape or are they now allowed to abort an unwanted child?

This guy pretty much summed it up. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Waterboy799]

i think Dave needs to put a plug in it...

[HoverFan#1]

Dude what an *******!

[MechaDio]

Anomie wrote:

Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles.

Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone...

It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard.

Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.

Dave is just desperate to still be relevant today. He's trying way too hard. But yeah, Megadeth is my favorite band and now I'm embarrassed to tell people about Dave's life and stuff.

[samhell]

Its not just the Africans that need to plug it up, its anyone who decides to have a kid without the means to care for it. As long as we keep handing stuff out for free, they will keep consuming it. Cut it off, plug it up! Thats going to be my campaign motto.

[vabrownsfan89]

instead of blaming the extremely impoverished women of sub saharan africa for having children born into poverty and deprivation, why not try and do something to help them. these people don't have access to clean water, food, or contraception. Africa is engulfed in civil wars and genocide, and millions of women are raped or forced to sell their bodies to provide some sort of existence for their families. Meanwhile, *******s like Mustaine, and sadly a lot of people on this website want to simply blame the victims, as if every African woman wakes up in the morning and says "hey, i think i'll get another unwanted pregnancy today".

How about all these so called christians stop using their religion simply to justify their homophobia and help and love thy neighbor to improve their basic status as human beings. The American Declaration of Independence that all these ****ing christian conservatives love soo much says that ALL MEN are endowed by the creator to unalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Its a shame that apparently only applies to wealthy westerners and not to the people living in their own shit because no one will do anything to help...

[samhell]

KNEESLAPPINGTON wrote:

Will somebody just put a bullet in this guy's head already? I hear heaven (or hell) is short a guitarist.

So somebody says something you don't agree with and murder is the appropriate response? Thats got crazy written all over it Bubba.

[samhell]

vabrownsfan89 wrote:The American Declaration of Independence that all these ****ing christian conservatives love soo much says that ALL MEN are endowed by the creator to unalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Right! That means nobody can kill you, nobody can take your freedom, and you are free to work for what you want. That does NOT entitle you to free shit because someone else earned more than you. That does NOT entitle you to anything but your own will to better yourself. Some people think it seems to mean free health care and bigscreen TV's for all...

[SolemnShred]

I like this guy. I'm liking him more and more, too. Sick awesome guitarist, epic songwriter, and best of all a public figure who's not a complete bleeding-heart liberal. +1, Dave.

[joee75]

..what, just because what he said is true people get offended.

[pwrmax]

Now I know how GNR fans feel

[Scubasteve2345]

You should tell that to the Africans in the country. I don't want to keep paying my taxes for some lil bow wow making babys left and right not paying for his kids. so that means i have to? Liberalism is a mental disorder

[Denjario]

Do I agree that poor people shouldn't have kids? Sure. If you can't support your kid, you have no reason to be having one.

Do I know that things in Africa aren't so cut and dry? Sure do! It's hard to not have kids when there's so many factors working against you, most of all a misogynist society that treats women as props for sex.

It's easy to "put a plug in it" if you're living in a 1st world society, not so much in Africa.

Frankly, davey should take his own advice and put a plug in it...

[Goodtimes666]

it would be tough to raise 6 kids in america. i can't imagine how hard it would be to do it in bum**** middle of nowhere africa. why keep having kids if they're doomed to starve? i agree with dave for once.

[DSG3002]

dave, you're a musician, not a politician, so do what you should be doing

[MeanMrMustard99]

Dave go back to playing shitty music and shut yer mouth ya Nazi

[vinnym86]

what a moron. he's been licking too much santorum

[skylerjames13]

One of the things is, they have many children so the children can work. The parents work, but can't pull enough money together to buy food. Is it their fault? No, not really.
I've recently been losing all respect for Dave.

[ThrasherLV]

Born dead into this world, To starve and rot in agony ©

Mustaine is not the first to speak about this theme. Africans don't have clean water, food, etc? But where do they get guns and ammo to constantly fight? They have possibilities to make something worthy of their countries, improve their lives, and they just don't care. I get Dave's point completely, and I'm not christian, I'm just rational.

[blankoff]

As much as i respect him, i can't agree with this. He does know that a lot of it is due to husbands forcing themselves due to religious beliefs, rape, the fact that if they dont have these children to work they wouldn't be able to afford to keep themselves alive right?

[motorcitymetalh]

I couldnt agree more ,Dave is just stating the obvious.

[Pippers]

Why would Dave be for telling people what to do? This sounds like big government intervention in everyones lives.

Stay out of other peoples lives. Wonder how he feels if government thinks he should be paying more taxes, or deciding if he can have another kid, or telling him he shouldn't own guns for one reason or another?

[bustapr]

that statement about putting a plug in it should be said about all humanity instead of just africans. Not even if you have tons of money, you shouldnt really have tons of kids. starvations gonna be a real problem if theres too many mouths to feed in the world. also theres a really big rape problem in some communities in africa.

[Salvo416]

I agree with him. Is that bad? lol

[katalyzt13]

I think the problem is Dave's presentation of valid ideas. I also wonder if he is taken out of context. Regardless, I love Medadeth and Dave Mustaine and even if his comments are as bad as they sound I still love him.

[betterman5]

Yeah I fully agree with him even though i hate him. Why bring a child into poverty and suffering?

[Icyplains]

It's cool to hate on Dave :lolz:

[BriGuy7727]

Mustaine is absolutely wrong on this one. Does he realize that most women don't really have a choice in having kids? Contraception is barely distributed over in Africa & on top of that, their rape rate is through the roof. Most of these women don't even want to have the children they're forced to bare due to this fact. Stick to guitar Dave...

[minnigh]

I don't see why its a big deal. Just because he is not afraid of whether or not what he says is politically correct. You shouldn't have children when you know you can't take care of them.

[brokndwn06]

I AGREE!! except i feel this way for all races..its getting out of control, females just have kid after kid so they can collect the pay from the government. its ridiclulous

[lVlaniac]

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

people dont realize that sometimes (a lot of times) this goes beyond voluntary selfcontrol and no one realizes the ammount of rapes that happen in those places. Specially with internal warfare in many countries where power abuse from all sides lead to rapes.

[sickassfoo]

OH MY GOD! YES!!! right before i went on here i was thinking the same thing and now to hear him say this makes it true. THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN NOW PLUG IT!

[$hithappen$16]

brokndwn06 wrote:

I AGREE!! except i feel this way for all races..its getting out of control, females just have kid after kid so they can collect the pay from the government. its ridiclulous

How about men stop having sex with women unless they're prepared to take responsibility for the kid. Women don't produce asexually. There is usually a penis involved somewhere along the line

[behind_you]

sickassfoo wrote:

OH MY GOD! YES!!! right before i went on here i was thinking the same thing and now to hear him say this makes it true. THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN NOW PLUG IT!

Your username describes you well.

[brokndwn06]

$hithappen$16 wrote:

brokndwn06 wrote:

I AGREE!! except i feel this way for all races..its getting out of control, females just have kid after kid so they can collect the pay from the government. its ridiclulous

How about men stop having sex with women unless they're prepared to take responsibility for the kid. Women don't produce asexually. There is usually a penis involved somewhere along the line

well sex lies in the hands of the woman cause if she says no..thats called rape!

[Spekulus]

guitar_shredda* wrote:

Some of the posts on here are absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. If you have never been to Africa then don't comment. "Condoms are not freely available" That is absolute trash! Im from South Africa and almost every bathroom you walk into on the street or in the malls has plenty of free condoms available. Many black men here do not use them because in their culture it is "un-manly" to use condoms. Contraception is also available from any pharmacy for about 7 US dollars and from any public health clinic for free. Many black people here simply do not care for contraception or condoms, its just something that is embedded in the mindset of many people here and the government has been trying hard to change that especially due to the HIV pandemic. I know at the varsity I go to people do not take the free condoms whether you are black white coloured or blue so I guess the governments free condom plans have failed.

Let me see ive read this right. In south Africa you have bathrooms which implies you have WATER. Are you really telling me every country in Africa is equally wealthy?

Contraception would be a great idea however there's a problem with these things called missionaries who like to tell everyone that contraception is a sin. Can anyone guess what religion they're preaching?

[thebigredjj10]

While the basic premise of having less sex = less children and therefore less poverty seems like an air tight argument to some, it completely misses out on many of the complexities that face those nations. (Although it would be some good advice to people in our own countries). For one, since the survival rate for children is so low in many areas, parents try to have as many children as possible to support their families. Secondly, rape is very common, and even if they are not raped, they may be pressured by men for sexual favours for survival.
There are more points to be made, but most of them have already been made.
And then he talks about the book of revelations coming true. What most Christians don't understand is that when the early Christians were compiling the books to put into the New Testament, they omitted many books such as the book of Judas, and they didn't know if they should include this book as it was insane and was written by a person in exile.

[brokndwn06]

and you still do it..*

[Chad11491]

Lulz, Dave. Lulz.

He's the perfect troll.

[hazydavy]

What was wrong with his statement? The crudeness of it? The logic stands on its own. Why have children if you can not provide for them? Not everyone has the benefit of a welfare society where the taxpayer is burdened with providing the basics for your child who will grow into a 10x burden on society.

[tonello]

I understand that things happen (war, disaster) but he raises good issues. How many women are getting pregnant now when they can't support them. Even in America. There's a person who is a single mother working at my gas station who is pregnant again for the third time in 2 years. And she's always bitching about not having enough money. I actually back Dave on this.

[ThatFlyingThing]

I can't say I agree with some of Dave's politics. I am pro-gay marriage, and Santorum can blow me as far as I'm concerned. Nonetheless, there is no denying that Dave has a valid point. I was arguing with some colleagues on the matter of abortion the other day; regardless of my opinion (I am pro-life), the fact remains that it is your conscious decision to procreate and that you can't blame anybody but yourself for a pregnancy, no matter how few contraceptives there are in your country. It's amazing how people assume that we have no control over our sexual impulses when just about every major school of psychology disagrees, especially the Humanistic and Existentialist. To conclude, I'm dumbfounded that anybody could claim that Dave is wrong in this regard; the life of your child is your creation and your responsibility, no matter how horny you were at the time.

[brokndwn06]

tonello wrote:

I understand that things happen (war, disaster) but he raises good issues. How many women are getting pregnant now when they can't support them. Even in America. There's a person who is a single mother working at my gas station who is pregnant again for the third time in 2 years. And she's always bitching about not having enough money. I actually back Dave on this.

exactly...my mom has temporarly taking care of 2 kids from this woman cause she has no money, job and now she is pregnant again.. wtf? makes me sick!

[CapnKickass]

*family guy, russian waiter* trolololol

[robbit]

honestly, hes right. put the d*** down. get a job. get a job holding d***s if ya must

[-xCaMRocKx-]

Mustaine, put a bullet in it.

[btfbonzo]

Dave, they don't use birth control because of YOUR religion. Plus, Africa is in such poor political and economic shape due to the fallout from white, Christian imperialism.

[moscaespañol]

 jetfuel495  wrote:

Actually, I take back what I said. Dave doesn't have a point regardless. He doesn't understand how society works in those areas and that these women don't have the rights they do in America and they're probably having these kids against their own will. Rape is a huge problem in Africa, and some women don't have a say in when they want to even have non-rapey sex. Daddy just wants to bust a nut.

It's not like these women are having six kids apiece because they want them, you know.

jetful again, the only one making any godamn sense in the comments.

[Tanaboon]

Are we sure that Dave Mustaine isn't doing drugs anymore?

[flaphead325]

If youre a junkie that cheats his wife 4 times a year with different women, just like dave mustaine, then dont make kids.

But he did, so what is he complaining about?

[gibsongalore184]

Ya know..i agree with him.
Normally,his comments are much to outspoken,and I generally think this guy's a total ****tard. But hes right. You cant support kids? Dont have them.
Theres no contraception? Quit having sex.

[sickassfoo]

behind_you wrote:

sickassfoo wrote:

OH MY GOD! YES!!! right before i went on here i was thinking the same thing and now to hear him say this makes it true. THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN NOW PLUG IT!Your username describes you well.

fantastic

[Prestofly]

im not religious but if he wants to talk about his faith by all means do it thats what we have rights for and if you dont like what he has to say about people having babies just ignore it. Does it concern you? I doubt it so wtf do you care? And if you find his comments racist you're just being ignorant(although he might at heart be racist). Bill Cosby got shit on for saying things too, id say just move on

[Miyagi84]

Even if the statement may be true, if misguided and without any context or explanation of the facts, this shouldn't be coming out of his mouth. In fact, he shouldn't be saying anything other than the lyrics he wrote if hes going to be saying incendiary things like this. Dave Mustaine is obviously a megalomaniac.

[xevious1]

He basically said if you cant afford a kid dont have one, and everyone makes a big deal turning this in to some racist comment.

[Iommianity]

If Dave Mustaine says anything you've wanted to say for awhile but couldn't, at least you're aware how ****ing stupid your beliefs truly are. Dave isn't a rebel with a cause saying edgy things or giving unpopular opinions. He's spewing ignorance and misconceptions, and he hides behind his religion to do it. Keep in mind this man is a born again Christian after believing in black magic and abusing heroin/cocaine/alcohol his entire life.

[Iommianity]

Also, to anyone saying he makes a good point about pregnancy, why don't you look at the teen pregnancy demographics in America. The rates have actually gone DOWN in some cases. It's highest in poor areas. It doesn't take a ****ing genius to see that this might have more correlation with education and status than morality or race.

[Metalfan20]

gibsongalore184 wrote:

Ya know..i agree with him.
Normally,his comments are much to outspoken,and I generally think this guy's a total ****tard. But hes right. You cant support kids? Dont have them.
Theres no contraception? Quit having sex.

That's Kind of what I was thinking. The Comment wasn't as bad as I'd expect to be. I think the issue with Africa is the lack of contraceptives. That's something that's really hard to get a hold of in 3rd world countries. Just the other day I heard about Kenyan tribe were rape is common practice and accepted by the population. I understand where he's coming from its difficult to in practice to just put a plug in it.

[Iommianity]

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/health/120209/teen-p regnancy-us

40 year low, people. 40 YEARS.

[Mikethespud]

I've heard that in Africa women try to have more children in the hope that more will survive, and there's also a lack of contraception

[Scutchington]

Kind of amusing that he wrote a song for Megadeth called Burning Bridges, that's all he seems to be doing nowadays.

"If you took your own direction, if only you practice what you preach, if you follow your advice you wouldn't be burning bridges all the time. " - chorus from Burning Bridges

[james1210]

"Even if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in faith, you've got to understand, when Israel became a country again"=== Uh, ever heard of self fulling prophecy???? And dave, you realize that in Africa the pope tells those men and woman to not wear condoms, thanks religion!!!

[wildaxeman]

Iommianity wrote on 02/24/2012 - 06:40 pm / quote |
Also, to anyone saying he makes a good point about pregnancy, why don't you look at the teen pregnancy demographics in America. The rates have actually gone DOWN in some cases. It's highest in poor areas. It doesn't take a ****ing genius to see that this might have more correlation with education and status than morality or race.

What does US teen pregnancy rates have to do with AFRICA??
ITS NOT ABOUT RACE. ITS ABOUT COMMEN F&^#ING SENSE. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO FEED EM, DONT HAVE EM

[wildaxeman]

TYPO- COMMON

[Iommianity]

wildaxeman wrote:

Iommianity wrote on 02/24/2012 - 06:40 pm / quote |
Also, to anyone saying he makes a good point about pregnancy, why don't you look at the teen pregnancy demographics in America. The rates have actually gone DOWN in some cases. It's highest in poor areas. It doesn't take a ****ing genius to see that this might have more correlation with education and status than morality or race.

What does US teen pregnancy rates have to do with AFRICA??
ITS NOT ABOUT RACE. ITS ABOUT COMMEN F&^#ING SENSE. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO FEED EM, DONT HAVE EM

Did you ignore every other comment EXCEPT mine? Other people are trying to draw a parallel between his comments about Africa and how they can apply to America, in an effort to make his statement less stupid. But since pregnancy rates are down in America, and there are plenty of social factors in Africa, 'putting a cork in it' isn't the solution since it's not simply a matter of girls just being sluts.

[filipe26]

Truth is when you are a secure catholic person you will forgive yourself right away after doing whatever it is you did wrong. So Mustaine, you're forgiven!

(PS: Since we all make mistakes we shall all try to **** our enemies! That's the truth of life...If you don't like it, it's your problem...)

(PPS: Just ****in' deal with it!)

[Kueller917]

You know I know it's his opinion, I've always let him say what he wants, and still do. But it's becoming harder to try and argue that these controversial comments aren't just made for the sake of being controversial. There's a difference between speaking your mind and just blabbing whatever you feel like even if you don't know much about it.

[filipe26]

An another thing: Only satanists care about doing what's right...

They're the only ones who accept homo's in their philosophy, and as far as their principles claim to go treat equally both black's, white's, and browns, and the rich and the poor, and the smart and the stupid, so if you wanna try to be a 100% good person, just go and join their religion...

Otherwise just shut the hell up and come join catholicism...Fuckin' whiner!

(PS: We want YOU!)

[filipe26]

Kueller917 wrote:

You know I know it's his opinion, I've always let him say what he wants, and still do. But it's becoming harder to try and argue that these controversial comments aren't just made for the sake of being controversial. There's a difference between speaking your mind and just blabbing whatever you feel like even if you don't know much about it.

Totally agreed.

[alexanderjames7]

he looks like shaun white's embalmed corpse. i can't take anything this goon says seriously.

[filipe26]

james1210 wrote:

"Even if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in faith, you've got to understand, when Israel became a country again"=== Uh, ever heard of self fulling prophecy???? And dave, you realize that in Africa the pope tells those men and woman to not wear condoms, thanks religion!!!

Indeed James!

[filipe26]

Iommianity wrote:

Also, to anyone saying he makes a good point about pregnancy, why don't you look at the teen pregnancy demographics in America. The rates have actually gone DOWN in some cases. It's highest in poor areas. It doesn't take a ****ing genius to see that this might have more correlation with education and status than morality or race.

One of these days i saw a documentary about these dinner parties in the U.S. where 8 to 12 year old girls made a pact with their fathers where they swore to remain virgins until they're married...

What's up with that? What do fathers have to do with their little girls vaginas and why do the girls are happy to make that pact?

Only in America...

[Highelf04]

Seriously.....has Dave become more and more right wing recently?

[pokerhappy]

Hey Mustaine said something sensible for the first time in ages.

Politically incorrect beyond imagine, but we can't always have nice things.

[filipe26]

Metalfan20 wrote:

gibsongalore184 wrote:

Ya know..i agree with him.
Normally,his comments are much to outspoken,and I generally think this guy's a total ****tard. But hes right. You cant support kids? Dont have them.
Theres no contraception? Quit having sex.

That's Kind of what I was thinking. The Comment wasn't as bad as I'd expect to be. I think the issue with Africa is the lack of contraceptives. That's something that's really hard to get a hold of in 3rd world countries. Just the other day I heard about Kenyan tribe were rape is common practice and accepted by the population. I understand where he's coming from its difficult to in practice to just put a plug in it.

Beauty pageant's of young little girls are accepted by the population in America...What a freaky world!

[filipe26]

Highelf04 wrote:

Seriously.....has Dave become more and more right wing recently?

I think he has become more like insane-wing.

[Burnt Ice]

He is not aware of the rape statistics, and attitude of men towards women in Africa.

[filipe26]

Dave said: "Well, how about, you know, put a plug in it? It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them."

How about not singing "Peace Sells" anymore? You shouldn't sing a song claiming you're "from the people" when you're actually a millionaire, right?

Oh, the complexities of life...

[OTBass]

He must have enough money, because lately I'd say his goal is to never sell any records ever again.

[Northernmight]

BUT a major reason to the amount of children AND sexually related sickness is in Africa is the result of the pope's "CONDOMS ARE UNHOLY POLICY" - actually these people are religious - and dying from it from starvation and aids.. So much for YOUR ****ing god Mustaine. I hate this man, i really really do.

[Ballsalot]

Can someone in the Mustaine camp please get him to shut the **** up?

[guitgrinder]

OK, there are some things you can say in private that may be a bad idea to say in public. Sometimes it can be considered ballsy to say these kinds of things, & sometimes it's not a good idea. Also, consider this: how many times have you thought or said something out loud or in your head, but when you type it out on the internet, it comes across totally sideways. Many times, words like these are all about tone & presentation. Depending on if it comes across lighthearted & in a joking manner, or if it comes across in a mean-spirited manner, this statement can have entirely different connotations. Dave really should tread lightly after this though, this is not good for Megadeth- to come across as the gay-bashing nigger-hater metal band is not going to help anything. Fortunately, I'm a Megadeth fan because the music. I did buy his book, and I'm starting to wonder if all the successes of the last few years has gone to his head.

[priestfan76]

This was taken way too far, he wasn't saying anything about ONLY african woman have this problem, he was using an example of how he sees people in destitute with a bunch of kids and doesn't get it. he's a ****ing idiot to be sure, but in this case I don't really think what he said was anything that should've been taken this far

[guitgrinder]

What sucks to is that Mustaine should be getting attention on a site like this for like, teaching us cool riffs, & new Megadeth happenings, but no... he's on UG cause some socio-political opinion that just as ****ed up & uninformed as any other ******* you might meet. It just seems worse because it's in bright lights glowing across your face. UG got the hits they wanted by posting this News article!

[dakielster]

As much it is rude for me to say this, I agree. You shouldn't have kids if you can't afford it. You are just giving a terrible life to someone who doesn't deserve it. If there were to be a law about this, there would be no poverty in the world, but Africa would be completely void of life...

[TheReaper616]

Another UG topic that christians seem to poke their heads into and not realising the stupidity of their own comments. Dave is right on the very basic principle but tbh his wording will always be taken out of context and made into a racist remark.

Now for the christians stop ramming religion into topics. Your outdated and well you believe in some holy mans teachings who was actually a jew so pretty much your fundamentals are distorted. If there is anything religion in the modern world can be its just a bunch of moral guidelines. The fact that the bible was written by humans for humans makes it seem very likely it cannot be trusted. Show me proof it can otherwise STFU.

[St. Fixxxer]

Mustaine, my man, keep em comin. Now, about those pollocks...

[BledGhostWhite]

Biggest douche in metal?

[Scourge441]

There are regions in Africa where a woman can legally executed for refusing a man's sexual advances, even if she knows he has HIV or other STDs.

I bolded that so the people supporting Dave Mustaine will hopefully see it and realize how completely and utterly stupid his comments are.

[qrEE]

What happened to the man who used to have interesting insight on politics and society? I guess the excessive drugs are finally starting to catch up with him. While I don't think anything badly about what he believes, he's gone too far with this, simply because he's neglecting the actual issues at hand while trying to address them... just like any republican might do! No, republicans are usually pretty decent at what they do, but lately they've just been stinking up politics, and that's not to say the democrats don't need some work.

[RylanThePotato]

HowSoonisNow wrote:

Like what someone else here said, we have a similar problem here in the States. It's all about the lack of sex education. It makes me sick when parents refuse to let their kids go to sex ed. How will they ever know the truth? A lot of teens probably think pulling out is good enough.

I'm living proof it ain't.

[qrEE]

filipe26 wrote:

An another thing: Only satanists care about doing what's right...

They're the only ones who accept homo's in their philosophy, and as far as their principles claim to go treat equally both black's, white's, and browns, and the rich and the poor, and the smart and the stupid, so if you wanna try to be a 100% good person, just go and join their religion...

Otherwise just shut the hell up and come join catholicism...Fuckin' whiner!

(PS: We want YOU!)

So... all gays are satanic? That's what you implied, you said that the only people in the entire world who accept gay people are satanists. And gay people accept gay people, so...

Secondly, what's brutal about joining a "religion" that's ultra accepting to people? That's boring, at least from the point of someone who might be interested in joining satanism (which I'm NOT).

Thirdly, isn't satanism based off of "natural urges"? Like, if you're satanic, you just do what you want, even if that means the natural urge to be racist, homophobic, or murder people? Because you know that it's actually been studied and evident that mankind is naturally racist.

Fourthly, there are multiple kinds of satanism, and the most popular of them focuses on "eye for an eye" and self indulgence. Thus, it's kind of the opposite of what you said.

Fifthly, the idea of Christian religion in general is that human-kind is weak and can be made stronger by resisting natural urges. Satanism is ALL about natural urges. So really, Christianity is still a much more accepting form of philosophy than Satanism.

But, fundamentalist Christians are the problem. And I'm becoming more scared that Mustaine is one of them.

[BillyRamone]

Post a pointless Mustaine article one more time. I dare you! I double dare you mother *** post a Mustaine article again!

[ShadowsWhisper]

ahhh...history lessons with Dave Mustaine. In all truthfulness, I love coming on here and reading other people's opinions on these Dave Mustaine terribly thought out blurbs.

I feel like I myself have a better grip on where I stand on these topics from seeing how other people view this issue and forming my thesis. In a way, thank you Dave Mustaine for giving me something to read. Also, thank you Ultimate-Guitar community for showing me there are still good people in the world.

[W>O]

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

yeahh..

[W>O]

BillyRamone wrote:

Post a pointless Mustaine article one more time. I dare you! I double dare you mother *** post a Mustaine article again!

yeahh !? what's your problem ?

[Second Rate]

Poorer, less healthy populations usually have higher birth rates because fewer of their children survive to adulthood.

Also.... "modern liberal views?" There is no Liberalism in the modern world.. at least not in the united states. Liberalism died a horrible death at the hands of the twin demons of Conservatism and Progressivism sometime in the 1860s.

[mr.speaker]

I wonder if Mustaine and the Gingers have soul kid are buddies

[greedyguitar]

he can say whatever he wants, but hes right, cant feed kids? use a rubber..no rubber...guess youre gonna have to jack off

[indyrock91]

This might make me unpopular, but I don't really have an issue with what he said. If you can't support kids, don't have them

[Thatguy89]

hes just the biggest troll,next hes gonna be saying he lost the game :P

[remotenightowl]

While he makes a valid point, he's ignorant to the fact that many women do get raped in Africa constantly. Look, I'm a Christian to, but he has his opinions, and constantly gets undermined, especially in the media. Besides, I want to know why UG is pouncing on every little thing he says...

[pokerhappy]

I like how everyone constantly brings up the fact that women in Africa are raped all the time like it's no big deal. As though, hey, there's nothing we can do about it, so Mustaine is an insufferable ass.

[SlayerX114]

what an ass...

[diefordethklok]

YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS. WHITE PEOPLE LIVE IN AFRICA, TOO. IT'S NOT RACIST. HE'S SAYING THAT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEIR CHILDREN SHOULDN'T HAVE THEM. THIS IS A COMPLETE TROLL POST.

On a related note, I actually hate Mustaine. But this article is ****ing retarded.

[metalhed18]

Anomie wrote:

Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles.

Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone...

It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard.

Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.

[Underjoggle]

Dave. Goddamnit, Dave.

[metalhed18]

Anomie wrote:

Mr. Mustaine was one of the reasons I started playing back about 15 years ago... now, I have to secretly admire his chops while my respect for him dwindles.

Dave you are a smarter person than this, or at least led yourself on to be pretty intelligent, bit of a dick, but intelligent. Man, I know times are tough, but maybe putting these emotions into WRITING MUSIC would be a better solution... not your religious beliefs in EVERY reporter's microphone...

It's sad to see your hero become someone whom he is not and will never be, yet he tries so hard.

Plug in the guitar, and start snarlin' Dave.

Agree 100% man

[Scott O]

I'm with Dave. How bout if these African dudes start pulling out instead of knocking broads up? And hey, what's up with airline food?

[Scott O]

And you friggin kids these days are so politically correct. Stop worrying about hurting African women's feelings.

[jairic]

I wonder if being a Christian is a way to avoid having to think about anything; if that were my 'theory' Dave's ignorant comments definitely support it.

[Ultraussie]

Cool story bro, write a song about it.

[direngrey680]

Oh god...MFW people actually believe women in Africa have a choice in being pregnant...Jesus, people. These "women" (more like kids ages 10+) are having kids because they are forced to marry guys and have their children. Come on. Let's get real here

[Dumpster510]

Sounds like common sense to me (minus the religion part)

[Piñata]

upsetting that the same person who gave us rust in peace also comes out with this shit...

hope he he feels good about losing fans like me

[snaaake]

They're just being fruitful and multiplying, Dave! Surely you can appreciate that.

[Androidjoey]

he is right if you cant feed yourself then dont have 12 damn kids its not like they are going to die too

[BillyRamone]

：yawn： -boring- what's Slash doing? Making music!

[Cobalt Blue]

i've said this, but less harshly. if the charities that help out in Africa handed out some condoms with supplies it might help... but most of those charities have religious ties that are anti contraception...

[inyourgirlagain]

He can't just generalize all African women. That being said, Dave is being a bit of a twat lately.

[5t0rM]

inyourgirlagain wrote:

He can't just generalize all African women. That being said, Dave is being a bit of a twat lately.

Exactly my point. Dave is loosing his mind.

[theNut{sacks}]

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids.

Dude, are you f*****g stupid? Maybe they have a lot of kids down there because there isn't condoms and stuff around every corner? Did that pop into your head?

[5MinutesAlone]

I agree with him totally. He is right. I've always wondered why is it that its the poor people who always have 6-7 kids. They are simply ****ing themselves up. Both literally and figuratively

[N4 I RockDude]

I love this mother****er. But its getting harder to defend him when he just doesn't know when to shut the **** up. Just please.....shut the **** up and start being a role model again.

[W>O]

theNut{sacks} wrote:

Zan595 wrote:

You know, I really hate what Dave's been saying lately, but I actually agree with him here. Not just for inhabitants of Africa, but in any situation- if you can't support a kid, don't have kids. Dude, are you f*****g stupid? Maybe they have a lot of kids down there because there isn't condoms and stuff around every corner? Did that pop into your head?

if you cum outside, will the women gets pregnant ? are you stupid ?

[the_hoodster]

A lot of it isn't down to the fact they've a lack of education on contraception, they just choose not to use it due to their religion/culture etc

[bradwhiteuk]

I kind of agree with Mustaine's sentiment here, though he must know it's a totally unrealistic statement.

I'm not sure what kind of a Christian he is but if he's a Catholic he shares part of the blame for Africa's problems.

Christianity is one of the major contributing factors for poverty in Africa (because of their having too many children as Dave is addressing) and also the spread of HIV/Aids. If condom use was encouraged by Catholics instead of being slandered then an awful lot of pain, suffering and death would be removed from the lives of many millions, both inside and outside of Africa.

[henkka_potku]

This actually makes sense. I mean if we did the right thing we would just let those people die, it's not a life worth living for like ten years of starving and then dying of starvation. There are more people than they can support so less people is the only solution, be it cruel or not.

[intothe]

It's not as easy as it just being a matter of not knowing enough about contraception, in every poor country ever (even western countries long ago), families have had many children because they essentially need not only more people to help around at home, working with them at the family farm or company or w/e but also because having several children is basically an insurance for yourself when you get old. It's not like they can settle down in a comfy senior-living with hot nurses or something, unless they have kids to take care of them when they can't do it themselves, they're on their own.

The way to counter overpopulation is to get rid of poverty.

[Wilbo Baggins]

Ok, why is Dave Mustaine getting all critical all of a sudden, some one should get that Bible away from him before I lose all faith in him and Megadeth.

[slash 'n' dash]

i kind of agree with him here, if you can't support kids you probably shouldn't have them

[IronMaiden76]

yeah, you've got a point, but talk about a lack of tact. there's a difference between stating your views and being an *******... well, dave did both

[GeetarHeero]

I didn't read every single comment but one thing that I don't think has been highlighted is the cultural beliefs surrounding contraception in Africa. While it is true that many women cannot afford it, the bigger problem is that they are opressed and cannot use it. In many areas in Africa, a woman asking her husband to use a condom is grounds for him to kick her out on the street. As such, women are forced to have unprotected sex in a male-dominated society, which not only brings on pregnancies but also AIDS in situations where their husbands have multiple sex partners.

[the_modfather]

They have lots of kids just like all countries pre 19th century had lots of kids. Only one kid generally makes it to adulthood to continue the families legacy. Also more people can band together. It's a catch 22 really. Maybe he should spend some of his hard earned dollar to help them

[JD.15]

this guys a dick.

[claptoncocaine]

he's talking about the armaggedon now?? **** he's far gone.

btw, he doesn have a point about the kids. that should go for every race not just blacks.

[Pit_]

he's right in essence, i'm with him. the plug thing was a poor choice of words and the media spun it.

[.:!j.man!:.]

I agree with him, but my comment will probably be removed for saying that... The UG-mods may as well just delete the article if thats the case. Gotta love a backwards worlds common sense.

[Kapalen]

"Well if I was an african woman I would stop having kids."

But what he's really saying is:

"If I were an african woman - with all my current beliefs, thoughts, social protections, rights, and was just me in a black woman's body - I'd just stop having kids."

PS: The shit signaling the end times is always happening right now, which is why everyone is always saying it's the end times. How do Christians not pick up on this? "Yeah my great grandma said the same thing when they invented tv, my grandma said it when they invented rock n roll, and my mom said it when they invented the internet. But this time it's for real man." And that's just 100 years it goes all teh way back to when that shit was written.

[Satur9 LG+V]

ummm... i think somebody needs a kool-aid...
i am curious, did mustaine stand atop the roof of his house with a big stuffed toy heart on may 21, 2011? or again on october 21, 2011?

[Satur9 LG+V]

bill hicks would be ranting in his grave right now.

[Jordoro]

Okay will everyone stop thinking that everyone in Africa is Christian. Around 47% of people in Africa are muslims. Although religion is a factor, this isn't an excuse to use your own prejudices and blame a whole continent's problems on one religion.

[goingnowhere21]

This guy is using his fame for the wrong reasons for publicity. I'm losing a lot of respect.

[brokndwn06]

How about men stop having sex with women unless they're prepared to take responsibility for the kid. Women don't produce asexually. There is usually a penis involved somewhere along the line[/quote]

that she ****ed!

[Lord_Doku]

This would work... if having children in Africa didn't ensure future social security.

He forgets that they don't have a government that pays them for being old.

[Binbags]

Shall we look at Dave's commitment to "stay together" when it came to him bringing life in to the world?Cheating on his wife, self destruction on drugs to the point of seperation and pending divorce....

[zaz5]

Still angry about being thrown out of Metallica 30 years ago I see... you are forgiven given your little ignorant fundamentalist brain.

[izzy crowley]

Dave you ROCK \m/

[swarriner]

Dave has turned into a right wing moron brainwashed by the bible.

[ThisIsWar21]

colddayinthesun wrote:

The Bible was written hundreds of years ago?

thousands...

[gbovalle]

Look, in developing countries, sometimes the women don't actually have rights, and the ones that do don't have power or a voice in their society. This guy really needs to shut up. I'm a fan of his music, but he doesn't understand that it's not the women's fault. Men choose who they marry, what happens with their money, what they do, and other important important decisions because women simply can't. In their society it's just not that simple. Plus the church takes advantage of the instability of these places and influences them as much as they possibly can which means low accessibility to contraceptives . So in a society where the man wants as much children as possible in small hopes that one will live long enough to pass on his legacy i don't see how it's the woman's fault. Dave, you are wrong, and their country's instability, society, and church only make things worse. Put yourself in their position before you open your mouth because i'm trying really hard to not lose all of my respect for you, but you keep on making it harder with all of your incoherent bullsh*t.

[Jamma]

It is the very religion that Mustaine favours which is telling people in Africa that using birth control is a sin.

What a ****ing moron.

[morning666star]

he has a point though, if your poor and cant feed your yourself, don't have children... that's common sense.

and sure, contraception is hard to get for the, how about pulling out, or you know...finish in the girls mouth, at least then you fight against hunger.

[deathofarev]

Sadly he's only saying what a lot of people think. tbh whilst I was at uni I had a professor who thinks the exact same thing. ok his reasoning was along the lines of natural selection and not a religious point of view.

[FenderStrat2011]

I don't think many of you understand it's not the woman's choice In places like Africa women are constantly being raped and forced to have children. They can't protect themselves from the men that are leading their society.

[GNRAGE_2010]

He clearly isn't taking into the account the rebels who pillage areas and rape women and leave.

[demondown666]

hear! hear!

[PerpetualBurn]

This is so sad to me...When Dave's book came out I bought it and got to meet him at the signing. He seemed really nice; I told him Rust in Peace was my favorite metal album and he was simply stoked on that...but I feel like purchasing his stuff is buying in/donating to the cause of radical Christianity. Why Dave...why?

[Charlie4]

Dave says things a lot of people think but too often he words things in such a wrong way. If you can't support the child you bring into this world it's unfair to let them suffer in the first place. Anyway, this subject is way too complex to be ignorantly discussed.

[TerriThrash]

indyrock91 wrote:

This might make me unpopular, but I don't really have an issue with what he said. If you can't support kids, don't have them

Yes but the thing is that its not really that easy. Rape is much more common than it should be over there.

[Alpha_Wolf]

Sammy Mantis wrote:

Is he saying anything that isn't true?

This.

[RabidPikachu]

Thats the thing about black people. You don;t have to do much to offend them. Jus tell the truth.

[CaliforniaKid]

Hey Dave... you're a millionaire... put your effin' money where your
big mouth is and start supplying Africa with condoms. Oh wait, thats against your "religion". Do you really think people will stop having sex when its Gods priority? God put DESIRE into all of us, and your religion says to ignore it. Good luck with that sphincter lips.

[ramorite]

you cant be seriously backing him up what if the woman was molested and didn't want to have the child? mustaine is retarded if he thinks they always want to have children

[Dukey]

Dear Dave,
I can only assume that you got to have good intentions in the stupid things you said lately... deep down inside.
but all of your fans here can't find them in your quotes, so I can only suggest you to do one thing and it's the thing you do the best: just tour with Megadeth and write some more music about the twisted the non judicial, lacked-of-justice world we live in - the same thing you've done great in the last 28 years ever since you formed Megadeth.

I hope you will cosider my advice as a good one.

[welliott]

DamagingExcess wrote:

The reason most of these women have that many babies is because they are consistently raped multiple times. Are you really that dumb Dave. Last shred of respect gone

lol "shred"

[aljzachow]

i agree with dave, the tax payers end up paying for their children

[BurningTurkey]

Haha Dave is such a dick. I love it. Keep it up, I say.

[hazydavy]

Dukey wrote:

Dear Dave,
I can only assume that you got to have good intentions in the stupid things you said lately... deep down inside.
but all of your fans here can't find them in your quotes, so I can only suggest you to do one thing and it's the thing you do the best: just tour with Megadeth and write some more music about the twisted the non judicial, lacked-of-justice world we live in - the same thing you've done great in the last 28 years ever since you formed Megadeth.

I hope you will cosider my advice as a good one.

Billions of dollars are sent to these countries annually. Condoms and/or sexual education have just slipped their minds when the subject of poverty, starvation and population control are brought up by the gods of hand outs? I think not. This is a case of people who mean well (bleeding heart pacifists) unwilling to tell people to do something which they (the pussy bleeding hearts)are to afraid of offending someone even though it might save their life.

[R4R45]

I can see his point of view, and I do agree with it, but he hasn't considered that there's a high rape rate in Africa, barely any access to contraception, and having large families is part of the culture in Africa.

[joaod94]

i'm starting to believe this guy is just the biggest troll ever

[gavwah]

Clayden82 wrote:

What Dave Mustaine says about the Bible is true. The Bible spoke about stuff that happened thousands of years later, and there are hundreds of examples like the one Dave has used. The Bible is the only true Word of God.

You are really stupid, no wonder you believe the Bible is true. You know how the Bible has been around in one form or another for almost 3000 years now?? Don't you think the policy makers that re-created the state of Israel where aware or even motivated by the fact that it was mentioned in the Bible?

[RockInPeaceDime]

The number of downright STUPID people in these comments brings tears to my eyes. "herp derp lol he aren't say anything untrue!!!" If you cannot recognize the sheer stupidity of this "solution," you shouldn't be on a computer without supervision.

[BaptizedinFire]

I don't think Dave sees the whole picture here, although he's basically right. If you're dirt poor and you have a choice, then you should try to improve your situation before having kids. It's not fair to bring kids into a hopeless life of starvation.

However, in many African countries, women are more likely to experience rape at some point than learning to read and write. And this is why Dave is being ignorant, because he's asking rape victims to "put a plug in". That's not quite as disrespectful as Morrisey after the Norwegian killings, but it's still pretty bad...

[thepariah6]

Dave is right, if they don't have food, where the hell do they get strength to ****?

[Municipal Waste]

Can't say I agree with Dave on everything, but this time I do.

[IVOSPAZOUT]

Dave should keep his opinions to himself. He has no right to say this stuff at all.

[BaptizedinFire]

IVOSPAZOUT wrote:

Dave should keep his opinions to himself. He has no right to say this stuff at all.

Oh, he has. 'Cause if he doesn't, then you shouldn't have the right to express your disagreement either.

[BlackDeath92]

Municipal Waste wrote:

Can't say I agree with Dave on everything, but this time I do.

I 100% agree with ya. This time, Dave is completely right.

[BlackDeath92]

IVOSPAZOUT wrote:

Dave should keep his opinions to himself. He has no right to say this stuff at all.

Why the hell not? Is that to say anyone that disagrees with you can't have an opinion? You're an ass-hole.

[Kcared Neslo]

put a plug in it

[Schibik1]

Why did he target only black women? White women have to many children to.

[jhart08]

Schibik1 wrote:

Why did he target only black women? White women have to many children to.

he target "african women," not black women. It's a subtle difference, I know, but it is a difference. He's talking about villagers who have 10 kids and they can't even feed themselves. Not black women in 1st world countries. This is misrepresentation journalism at its finest.

[jhart08]

It's like, you shouldn't be having children if you can't feed them.

If he had deleted the "put a cork in it" sentence he would have been fine, but he didnt and everyone and their kid brother are having a field day with it.

[BaptizedinFire]

This is not a racist statement, the people who say that are just plain ridiculous. It's a moral statement, which I think is fine and agree with, unfortunately Dave doesn't have a clue about how many women are raped in Africa. That's the only problem in this statement.

[chris_rw]

This is a disgusting comment to make. He clearly has no idea about the situation in Africa. If it was as easy as just "putting a plug in it" then there wouldn't be a prolem.

[Altered_Carbon]

There's no challenge to basic survival too difficult for the comfortably wealthy! I will throw money at it, and play my guitar faster on the next album fer MOAR MONEY

Is this accurate?

[bobmarley_fan]

What ****ing offends me more is that he Supports Rick Santorum. RON PAUL 2012!!!!!

[a7xb4d]

Yeah, the comment is a little insensitive (well a lot actually) and if the stuff about women being killed for refusing sex is true, then maybe the men should "put a plug in it". The comments about contraceptives being scarce in Africa are just irrelevant because guess what guys? If you don't have sex, babies don't pop up, and the best part is you don't need contraceptives! It's really incredible. I think that's what Dave is getting at. These women or men if those laws do exist just need to keep it in their pants for a while unless they're prepared to take care of that many children.

[kuno1015]

You're all morons.

You seriously think you know more about a man who's traveled the world? I'm sure a lot of you know that Dave's a pretty ****ing smart human being. He says something that tons of people agree with, but the media doesn't, and suddenly all of you are better people than him and look down on him?

Internet idiocy at its best. You guys need to grow up, get the **** off your computers and realize the world is more than whatever the **** you can find on google or wikipedia.

Odds are whatever you search for, Dave's already been there and seen it firsthand.

[freedomgrenade]

I wonder if these comments will have an impact on Megadeath's record sales amongst sub-saharan african women. Maybe he's shifting his marketing focus to heavy metal zionists.

[jrcsgtpeppers]

im sure a lot of the women have no choice, rape?

[rezr]

Dave's probably been hitting up a little too much of that "santorum"

[theanarchyman]

well media always needed a conservative metal guy now they got him
i bet get paid from the media for say these things
its what media is for.messing with people and shit like that

[bassmike200]

Dave Mustaine... Mis-quoted or retarded?

[m4ss3 m/]

He has a point but the economy in Africa is so failed that they need those kids to help them when they are too old to work because they don't have a social security or anything.

[Flynn Oslo]

I dont care about Africans. I dont care about gays. But what i do care about is music. This loud-mouth wank named Mustaine needs a well aimed half-brick to his ginger head. I cannot think of one reason to like Megadeth or Mustaine. His entire post Metallica career has been built entirely out of spite. And now he is here to tell me that he cant do his job and sing HIS OWN songs because he is gods favorite or some shit. Give me a break. How about shut the hell up Dave? The only good thing i can say about you is that you were a proper rockstar. But now there is no more freebasing so now you are nothing more than a grumpy old ging.

[Jordoro]

kuno1015 wrote:

You're all morons.

You seriously think you know more about a man who's traveled the world? I'm sure a lot of you know that Dave's a pretty ****ing smart human being. He says something that tons of people agree with, but the media doesn't, and suddenly all of you are better people than him and look down on him?

Internet idiocy at its best. You guys need to grow up, get the **** off your computers and realize the world is more than whatever the **** you can find on google or wikipedia.

Odds are whatever you search for, Dave's already been there and seen it firsthand.

His whole point comes from tv shows.

[gabocrbll]

Im with mustaine with this one. Maybe the way he said it wasnt the best, but still true

[Necromicon]

I agree with him, it's not a very "nice" thing to say, but that goes through of lots of people's mind. The problem is the positive prejudice installed for some cultures.

[FrankenFoot]

You know, I love Dave as a musician, and I get a kick out of it when he pisses people off. Honestly, I really don't get his religious kick. Religion is like a dick, I don't want it shoved up my ass. Some people need faith in a higher power. I simply need faith in myself.

[FrankenFoot]

ne14t wrote:

I am currently deleting all the Megadeth off my iPod, I fear I will become too much like Dave Mustaine if I am over exposed to it and I would rather not be a over zealous racist bigot.

If you're really afraid of your opinions changing because of the music you listen to, you're proving how little you can think for yourself.

[krakkrox]

while hes not exactly the spokesperson i would hire, i can agree that whatever percentage of consensual sex had other than rape over there is inhumane and irresponsible, anyway really i don't see what the big surprise is, like some uptight prude broke character; ask dave anything non music of course hes gonna answer something retarded, hes like metal inclined autistic we all know that, right?

[Sparky-MMA]

i agree but there are better ways of saying it

[dgtr23]

How can such talent come from such a close minded person.

[krakkrox]

is he perhaps suggesting... youthanasia ;p ?
youthanasia for the youthanafrica(relaxxxx im saying they should listen to it its a great album nyuknyuknyuk

[Insomnia69]

eh

[Iommianity]

kuno1015 wrote:

You're all morons.

You seriously think you know more about a man who's traveled the world? I'm sure a lot of you know that Dave's a pretty ****ing smart human being. He says something that tons of people agree with, but the media doesn't, and suddenly all of you are better people than him and look down on him?

Internet idiocy at its best. You guys need to grow up, get the **** off your computers and realize the world is more than whatever the **** you can find on google or wikipedia.

Odds are whatever you search for, Dave's already been there and seen it firsthand.

You should google sycophant. Or ask Dave to write a song explaining the definition.

[LazyHardRocker]

Anyone thought of the possibility that he's just trolling? 'Cause I don't believe any human could be this stupid...

[DethDefiler]

I agree 100% with him on this subject. The fact that people bring kids into the world even though they can't support them to a certain extent is quite inhumane. People say that it's due to the lack of conception there, ok yes, but why can't they just not have sex as much as they do? Surely sex isn't that much of a priority when you're starving...

[chhang]

how was this guy ever in metallica?

[HARTATTACK69]

chhang wrote:

how was this guy ever in metallica?

Lars Ulrich posted an ad in a local paper and he responded to it.

[garden of grey]

Even though I love teh Deth, Dave has always been one of those burnt out crackheads that "found Jesus" and now won't stfu.

No offense to those who think they have found Jesus, maybe you have, Mustaine just does a poor job representing the case.

[garden of grey]

DethDefiler wrote:

I agree 100% with him on this subject. The fact that people bring kids into the world even though they can't support them to a certain extent is quite inhumane. People say that it's due to the lack of conception there, ok yes, but why can't they just not have sex as much as they do? Surely sex isn't that much of a priority when you're starving...

Lolwut, you and Mustaine should tour Africa giving speeches to the impoverished: "STOP having sex and allocate some food instead! You are all saved PS Santorum 2k12"

[garden of grey]

HARTATTACK69 wrote:

chhang wrote:

how was this guy ever in metallica?

Lars Ulrich posted an ad in a local paper and he responded to it.

:haha

[spiff-corgi]

RockInPeaceDime wrote:

The number of downright STUPID people in these comments brings tears to my eyes. "herp derp lol he aren't say anything untrue!!!" If you cannot recognize the sheer stupidity of this "solution," you shouldn't be on a computer without supervision.

Came back to this article for the lols and must say THIS! Half the people commenting here seem to think that white trash families in the US are somehow similar to starving African families. "He's got a good point, I see families at Walmart-" WHOA let me stop you there. People who shop at Walmart probably don't live in Africa, have never been raped, probably had some sort of sex education from a relatively young age and probably aren't starving with no source of income or food other than their children. Glad this article will be off the front page tomorrow.

[GenerationKILL]

poor Dave Mustaine, hes such a bigoted christian moron that he fails to realize the church is partially the reason why 3rd world countries are so overpopulated and impoverished. They went in there 100 years ago and preached about how bad birth control is.

Dave Mustaine has always been an unreasonable a**hole, but this is just getting ridiculous.

[Megallica22]

I guess he's not aware of the rape rates in Africa as well (that causes these pregnancies). I'm not saying that's the main reason but it's a large portion.

[$hithappen$16]

I honestly just check in on this article now just to see how this whole shit-storm is developing. But i just wanna say my piece again because it still amazes me at how many ignorant people are commenting on this article. People in poor areas of Africa do not have access to condoms or birth control. They can't afford abortions and even if they were to get one it would be in the most painful and unsanitary way possible (think coat hanger). Even if a woman were to say "No i don't want to have sex with you because I don't want to have a child" the man could easily beat her to death or rape her with zero consequences. Also, there isn't exactly a "Sex-Ed" class over there. Men don't understand the point of condoms. In many parts of Africa it is believed that using an old candy rapper or plastic bag works just as well as any condom. Women are also punished if they don't bare children, despite the fact that they have no money to support a family. The same also happens to men who refuse to have sex or reproduce with a woman for they are seen as unmanly. Don't believe me? Then I suggest you do some research before you decide to leave an ignorant comment. Ignorance is NOT bliss. It's just ignorance.

[J-dog-Ibanez]

I don't know about the whole "plug in" thing.
but gay weddings are just wrong, and the Bible says so.

[$hithappen$16]

J-dog-Ibanez wrote:

I don't know about the whole "plug in" thing.
but gay weddings are just wrong, and the Bible says so.

What does that have to do with anything???? And who cares what the Bible says??? Not everyone is Christian so to everyone else it's just a book.

[whatadrag]

This doesn't seem as unreasonable, offensive, or racist as they portray it to be. Stfu and leave Mustaine alone. The media is just trying to make him look bad because he speaks on behalf of his beliefs.

[thirteenburn]

Unless this website has decided to become like Rolling Stone (once more music than politics, now completely the opposite and not for the better)his [Mustain's] opinions are HIS opinions.

Whether or not I agree or disagree with any/all of said comments isn't up to me or this website (in my very humble opinion; which really doesn't mean much in the greater scheme of things...) to debate, thus I don't really care and I'm guessing that a great many members of this esteemed group feel likewise.

Yes, he's a guitar player, but c'mon - how about we leave his political comments to be bandied about on more proper websites, oh say, like that bastion of tasteful and indepth journalism, Perez Hilton and that waste of bandwidth?

Now PLEASE, let's get back to our regularly scheduled programing: guitars/music and all things actually RELATED to those subjects.

I'm just sayin'...

[roosterfx1]

Mustaine is famous, of course, for never having spent a day in Africa to truly understand the situation. tired of musicians who think they know best and can save the world .

[thirteenburn]

Scourge441 wrote:

There are regions in Africa where a woman can legally executed for refusing a man's sexual advances, even if she knows he has HIV or other STDs.

I bolded that so the people supporting Dave Mustaine will hopefully see it and realize how completely and utterly stupid his comments are.

His comments are no less utterly stupid than your comments, period. Again, I thought this was a GUITAR/MUSIC related website, so...

Next?

[zmr.banger]

I dont share the same belief with mustaine, but still not all his opinions are bullshit

[iup788]

Oh yes, because all of Africa's problems are caused by the women not putting a plug in it.

[heavenbesideyou]

>put a plug in it

oh god my sides. Dave Mustaine is awesome

[6-String_Madman]

2 words.. I AGREE!

[danielgoodwill]

now i see why he got kicked out of Metallica, hes an ass and hes stupid

[CasualSex]

The drugs are getting to him.

[Anjohl]

It's largely true what he said.
..

[Eigels]

Wow,wow,wow. Dave's comments and support of Santorum really are bringing out the worst of you leftists. Really? Attacking him personally and talking about shooting him because of his personal beliefs? Grow up. Leave it to the left to personally attack anybody who disagrees with them or breaks their personal religion which is political correctness. $10 bucks says all of you are still in high school, and are spoon fed your political information by John Stewart.

[HARTATTACK69]

Eigels wrote:

Wow,wow,wow. Dave's comments and support of Santorum really are bringing out the worst of you leftists. Really? Attacking him personally and talking about shooting him because of his personal beliefs? Grow up. Leave it to the left to personally attack anybody who disagrees with them or breaks their personal religion which is political correctness. $10 bucks says all of you are still in high school, and are spoon fed your political information by John Stewart.

I'm in College and personally prefer Colbert

[Scarified96]

I'm disappointed that Dave's views on the world differ so much from mine, but it doesn't change how I think about him as a musician. He's still one of my biggest idols.

[Farbeyondforums]

LOL! Mustaine says what we all wanna say, what a champ \m/- whether it's politically incorrect or not, truths are truths...if you can barely afford to support your own life why bring more into that life style, it's cruel and then we get bugged by tourists trying to make a quick holiday buck trying to get you to sponser them!!!

[DarfBobbyJim]

I totally agree. Africa is too over populated for it's finance problems. They have no money and keep on populating! It's ****ing bullshit! And expect us to pay for it.
And I agree with him with the gay marraidge thing too!
I think we'd get along :L

[DarfBobbyJim]

No, they keep having children when they know full well they can't afford it and they're gonna get a disease and die. They don't help themselves. It's their own fault. He's just expressing his opinion about it.

roosterfx1 wrote:

Mustaine is famous, of course, for never having spent a day in Africa to truly understand the situation. tired of musicians who think they know best and can save the world .

[DarfBobbyJim]

direngrey680 wrote:

Oh god...MFW people actually believe women in Africa have a choice in being pregnant...Jesus, people. These "women" (more like kids ages 10+) are having kids because they are forced to marry guys and have their children. Come on. Let's get real here

Okay. Well then it's whoever is forcing them to marry's fault. It's just a ****ing stupid thing to do. They can't help themselves so they expect us to pay for it and it's still not enough for them..
Maybe the whole 'woman' thing was a bit exact. But the whole country is in shit and they're not making it better

[NHECOS]

Dave Mustaine is right... I agree with him.

[HollowPoint423]

So because there is a lack of birth control that means it's okay to pop out kids when they can barely feed themselves? Here is a clue, stop F*CKING!!! I agree with Dave on this.

[DaniArrow]

Thinkin' about Mustaine's mouth... put a plug in it. please. For GOD's sake.

[Deepest_86]

It's silly, largely dominates the world people through ignorance and Africa is no exception. It is up to them not using contraception because virtually no one can access them, and many others are left out by taboos of their religion. And remember that until recently religion forbade them to use condoms because it meant killing lives, so, now we tell them that if they use condoms because it suits us? Now if they can choose? Africa is only a laboratory for testing new drugs and platform of the stars in search of fame, no one really looking for a solution to the drama, and Africa did not ask for help, they were invaded and gradually stole their land, and today only their land for diamonds. Do not believe everything you see on CNN because more than half the things lña obey political purposes. Gay marriage is a choice, who can say to you that you can not do something you want? Who are you to tell someone you can not do something you like? If God is love and forgiveness? Then who are you to condemn? Dave keeps playing the guitar and stop preaching the ideas that religion got into your head.
I apologize for grammar errors, I do not speak English well

[jake9545]

idiot..... clearly his dirt bag of a mother hasn't taught him anything about world politics... i suppose thats because she wasn't raped or sold into slavery. or perhaps loose a job or have a child contract an illness... just another case where a has been is trying to become relavent... just sad!

[nickzippelli]

MegadethFan18 wrote:

Dave for Emperor of the Universe!

He's right it's just because Africa is a touchy subject. Chat show hosts say it all the time, if you can't support your children don't have any. This has opened my eyes I always see those adverts about starving babies in Africa and have never though "maybe theirs Mothers should have put a plug in it".

You Sir, Ignore all those downvotes. You had a great point about how he was just saying "If you can't afford kids, dont have kids" and that goes for anywhere in the world

[baneofmorgoth]

colddayinthesun wrote:

The Bible was written hundreds of years ago?

God, I'm glad that I'm not the only person who caught that.

I think that he should just stop talking, that would probably be his best bet.

[fanapathy]

Go to these countries and live among the people. Then there's nothing to say, you'll just "get it".

[STABxYOU]

This just in: fool speaks foolishly. More at 11.

[black toad]

If you dont like it here with the freedom we have Planes leave the country everyday all day take one . dave for prez.

[djmk9419]

GrungeHippie26 wrote:

You know what? I defended him on every obnoxious comment he's made so far, but this is just rediculus. You've gone overboard man, just shut up already.

I think you mean "rape" is kind of an everyday thing there?

[King_Dime]

Its more like, tell the men of Africa to stop raping the women of Africa. And stop spreading aids to EVERYONE in Africa.I dont know everything but I do know that the problems created in this world are NOT created by women.Its the men who need to catch up.