Dave Mustaine has once again crossed his wires on US politics in another on-stage rant, which includes blaming Obama for Twinkies going out of business.
From the stage in Atlantic City last week, he suggested to the audience that the United States could fall apart:
"Right now there are 47 states in the United States of America that wanna secede [withdraw from] from the United States of America. And what 'secede' actually means is that they don’t wanna have any part of this bullsh-t any more.
"Whether you are a Democract or a Republican or a Libertarian or an Independent, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we’re Americans and we are not being treated right."
In fact, all 50 states currently have petitions for secession from the US. They've been posted to the We The People website, where any petition reaching 25,000 signatures will get an official response from the White House.
Of course, this doesn't mean there is a serious movement to break up the US. It's likely to be a minority of angry Republicans who are bitter at losing the recent election.
Mustaine's rant didn't end there:
"Did you hear that the people that make Twinkies today are going out of business after 82 years?" he asked. "It's really sad. It's an 82-year-old institution – they are going out of business because of this bullsh-t that is going on right now in the government. And that means 18,000 more people are going on unemployment and it's gonna be your responsibility to pay for them. It's just not fair."
Mustaine forgets to consider that the closure could be an effect of the global recession that hit America before Obama took office, and which no Western government has managed to solve.
Watch Mustaine talk politics in the live video here:
+1, exactly. It's like he thinks a few angry Republicans in each state get to speak for the entire state.
On another note, why is it always Republicans who make these apocalyptic claims about politics? Seriously, I'm waiting to see Democrats go all melodramatic like this one day. Just to even the score.
Because thats how they seem to get votes. Rush Limbaugh and Fox news practice this scare tactic and basically lie their asses off over and over again, but as joseph gerbles said "If you tell a lie over and over again people will accept it as the truth".
Really it's just to scare ill-informed people into voting red, and it seems a good portion of republicans adopted that tactic.
what?!? are you kidding me? liberals make the most fuss out of everything. while bush was president they blamed everything on him (9/11, war in Iraq, the weather ). and even with Obama in office they still "go all melodramatic". want a very recent example? the chickfila incident. the owner said we believes In biblical principles, and next thing you know, chickfila is getting banned across the country. so, in the end, both parties overreact to incidents, but its a ridiculous claim to say conservatives make more noise than liberals
While I don't necessarily disagree on principal, it was: NWO conspiracy theorist libertarians who blamed bush for 9-11, the war in Iraq was more a result of his cabinet pushing false info, so he was indirectly responsible for that one), the weather was outcry that FEMA under Bush was terrible, as it was, and the Chick-fila incident was a boycott from gay rights advocates, not a leftist state ban on chick-fila. . . but like I said, yes the left can get melodramatic as well.
Also, Hostess is going out of business in the same way Donald Trump went bankrupt. They are closing down so they don't have to respond to union demands, and will most likely be bought up by one of their parent companies and return to business as usual.
actually many cities attempted to oust chickfila, but failed. but UNCLE chapel hill officially banned them. And, both democrats. and republicans voted for war in Iraq. including his opponent in 2004, john Kerry.
I don't believe that he's directly blaming Obama, but he's blaming the current Economy within America, even though what he's saying is complete bullshit. The Hostess company is going out of business because of the poor pay that most of the workers were getting and cutting of worker benefits. Dave you're an excellent musician, but please, please, keep your mouth shut - Sincerely everybody
Considering the gov't does make the financial policy decisions that are ok'd by Obama, directly referencing the gov't, he did blame Obama. Even if he is wrong for the most part. Yes, EBT has gotten bad. I work at a gas station where people come in constantly buying junk food and its abuse that needs curbed but nobody listens to the people. The sooner everyone figures out that its all a dog and pony show, the smarter everyone will be and we'll see real change. Obama and Romney were interchangeable. There would have been no real change.
Oh please...what else do these guys have to do? It's not like there's a ton of metal gigs around with the kind of money Dave pays. They keep their traps shut so the paychecks keep coming.
lolol is he really insinuating that a majority of the people in those 47 states are tired of Obama? Why did they vote for him then? Must have been a hell of a shock when the 'evil communist' won the popular vote.
I'm confused, are you continuing to be satirical? Or do you believe this stuff?
The electoral college is determined by the amount of votes in each district. It's already done, it happens on election night in conjunction with the voters. Obama won the Electoral College 332 to 206.
Oh I'm not disputing he won.
But it's not bullshit either.
Yes, Obama won on election night the votes needed however, electoral reps from each state have a final say on Dec. 17th.
It's just some lunatics from the Tea Party, that isn't going to come to fruition. These kinds of threats are made all the time. We've even seen the Republican party walking away from extremist remarks like that, they will never get the support they require.
The Electoral College votes are not just a number we assign to each state. It is comprised of actual people who cast an actual ballot and elect the President.
Each party has electors in each state who pledge to vote for a certain candidate. When you vote for President, you are actually electing the people who make up the Electoral College, and it is those people who actually elect the President. These electors cast their ballots in December.
In the US, there's a couple of twists to this. You can have an unpledged elector, who does not promise to vote for a candidate, and you can have a faithless elector, who pledges for one candidate and then votes for another. We haven't seen unpledged electors since 1964, and faithless electors have never impacted the result of an election. However, the electoral votes Obama "won" could, in fact, be cast for Romney or another candidate.
Actually that was UG saying that the petitions are in 47 states. This oddity is easily answered though. You see anybody, and I mean anybody (even people in the artic with a computer and internet) can e-sign one of those petitions. Basically it is the same people signing the petitions in each state over and over again.
and the petitions they're signing are useless, they're doing it through the White House website. They need to write to Congress, the executive branch can't do anything but offer a statement if they even reach 25,000 signatures, and you can be damn sure that statement will be...
The fact that he won the popular vote just reinforces the point that most Americans are brain dead zombies. How can someone approve of the last 4 years? Even if they don't like Romney, how do you vote in confidence of the last 4 years? It's been a disaster. Chicago and Detroit are wastelands, and they vote for him. Ohio is a barren, jobless desert, yet they vote again for this man.
I didn't vote for either of them. To do so is to show brain impotence.
GAWD. This guy talks out of his ass constantly. The CEO's had given themselves nice bonuses like every other board of directors and then realized it was too much and ****ed the workers as an end result. He's too busy being pissed about Obama to realize that the way business is run in this country is completely poisonous and bullshit!
OH YES DAVE. It's Obamas fault that banks were doing dirty shit and needed bailed out. YES DAVE. It was Obamas fault that on the board of governors at the Federal Reserve had CEO's of banks bailing out their OWN companies.
Cause every horrible business decision has been Obamas doing.
Yeah he's spent a shit ton of money and I think its been a huge waste, but he did not cause the ****ing recession.
People just tend to way overestimate how much influence politicians have on the economy, it's the one issue politicians probably have least control over (well besides drug use and peoples sex lives) and it's the issue that makes or breaks most candidates. If jimmy carter and ronald reagean switched years our perceptions of them would have been very very different.
I think the bigger issue is people are not taking corporations to task enough. Giving huge surplus bonuses on million dollar salaries shouldn't be happening. Give back to your workers. They are the reason you make money.
The opening/main riff of Tornado of Souls got me to pick up a guitar for the first time when I was 10 years old. I have a lot of respect for Mustaine due to this, but he's off his rocker at this point and I'm tired of even hearing about him now.
I don't get mad when musicians and actors speak political views because you know they're human too. They don't force you to believe what they believe or anything, so I get annoyed when people tell them to shut up and play. That being said, I think Dave's been constantly given attention for his views for entertainment value and thats more polluting than him having his views made public to begin with.
It's really amazing how LITTLE research goes into these comments he makes, and even after he's confronted about them in interviews he will refuse to look up the truth for himself.
He his a prime example of a "low-information voter".
Starting to make more sense to me why you think this electoral college business with the Tea Party is a big deal. I'm sure in West Virginia it sounds like it has a good chance of happening, but trust me man, Obama is staying in the White House.
Whoa whoa whoa. Don't patronize me. I never said I was getting excited about it. I just brought it up as a point to an above topic. Nor did I ever say it was a big deal. It was in reference to the guy talking about the states wanting to secede. Just because I'm from WV doesn't make me an uneducated hick. You've clearly never been here. Yeah we have some stupid ass people but so does every other state.
I didn't mean to sound like a total dick, it's hard to convey tone through text. The condolences part was just a little joke, and I never meant to imply that you are an uneducated hick, I figured you weren't after you said "He's just a redneck. I know one when I see one."
It did seem like you thought that scenario might play out with the Electoral College after you said in all caps "ISN'T DEMOCRACY AWESOME". From my end it looked like a cynical approach to the situation.
I just don't consider it democratic when people are led to believe their vote matters when a committee seemingly above your average joe get to decide whether those votes count.
That doesn't really happen though, and it's the way the founding fathers wanted it. They didn't want the people to have 100% of the power, sometimes the people can make bad decisions too.
The problem with that though is that the gov't came from we the people and they are making the bad decisions. checks and balances..besides, its what happened in the 2000 election I believe. My point to all of this is if they end up giving the president win to Romney its going to cause a shitstorm cause Obama won the popular vote. Thats my point really. If someone wins popular vote, committees shouldn't be involved.
Which he turned into when he became born-again. In the 80s Mustaine was a high-information voter who repeatedly spoke out on international politics. Too bad he blew all that knowledge for an afterlife and his fairy sky-god...
I never payed attention to what he thought about politics back then, his songs are normally vague enough to appeal to both sides of the political spectrum.
I just find it hard to believe he wasn't this stupid before, he just wasn't as specific about it as he has been with the press lately.
he could write a decent 5 minute song about it and uhmm 1982???? all of daves lyrical writing wasnt even nnoticed until 1984 with megadeth being created, he was the base of metallicas guitar work though
One thing is to share a political view with your audience. What Dave does is to rant without a single credible or intelligent argument. "Government bullshit" is all he says. He can't point out one single policy he doesn't like. To him, it's all just "Government bullshit." Jerk.
BOO FUCKING HOO, THE GOVERNMENT WON'T BORROW MORE MONEY TO BAIL OUT THE TWINKIES COMPANY SO I CAN GET MY DAILY SNACK, NOW I'M GOING TO BLAME IT ALL ON OBAMA. Nice move, Dave, very mature. I bet he thinks the government creates jobs out of thin air, too.
Someone already said it but, the workers weren't getting enough pay. Twinkies/Hostess couldn't pay them because they were apparently at the brink of foreclosure anyway. The workers wouldn't stop their strike and are now out of a job. It may be hard to imagine but it happened.
Kind of a witch hunt here - I see a lot of people putting words in Dave's mouth.
Is the US government partly responsible for the economic decline in the last 10 years? Yes. Does Dave reference that? Yes. Are people then putting words in his mouth to make it seem he's aiming it specifically at Obama? yes.
Has Dave also not bitched relentlessly about Obama? Lets just call it an educated guess. The gov't doesn't create the money, the federal reserve does so at any point the Feds could be like "Yeah, no. We don't think that policy is a good idea. Lets go back to the drawing board."
But no. The gov't, like an addict is like I just need 450 billion till tuesday man...and the feds are like "how could this go wrong?"
It may indeed have a part in the economic recession, but do they have anything to do with the bankruptcy of Hostess Brands, which is clearly the responsibility of the company management? No. And isn't Obama the head of state, and has been blamed countless occasions before for the country's problems by Mustaine? Yes. There you have it. And no one is putting words into his mouth, for that matter.
Besides, criticism of stupid statements =/= witch hunt
Why won't the socialists let the Republican states leave the USA? They hate them, but they know that social politics can't be financed without stealing from hardworking people (wich are mainly Republican voters).
The red states actually receive the most in government subsidies. They spend more than they bring in, without the blue states making all the revenue the government wouldn't even be able to support them.
This isn't some political speech either, it's just a simple truth.
A)I am a hardworking person.
B)I am not a republican.
C)If capitalism has been so fantastic why are we crashing so bad right now?
Why do athletes get paid millions to throw a ball around but I have to work for a wage I can't live off of and deal with peoples bullshit?
I'm not asking to have a sports car cause I don't need one, but why does someone need 65 million dollars for a contract? Or CEO's getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bonuses.
The only thing capitalism has been doing for this country lately is widening the gap between rich and poor.
Spreading a FRACTION of some of the excess wealth around would stimulate the economy.
Total agreement here. I have thought the exact same thing for years. These people's pocket change could literally save the lives of many struggling families. Middle-class people are taking the brunt of the decline while all the well-to-do people just make massive gains in monetary gain. Regular people are not getting wage increases, but owners do better and better. This trend will be the downfall of society. It is in their best interest for the excessively wealthy to spread the wealth...Because poor people have "nothing to lose" if you get my drift
Just saw a thing on the french revolution and the sentiment and situation is startlingly similar, in this case the though the government is not going to take the fall as they've kinda learned the lesson over the years that no matter how much influence the rich hold it's kinda meaningless when the populace is feeling screwed and out for blood.
I also have a feeling that romney would have pulled a reagean on the whole taxing rich people thing, He just cares to much about public perception to continue letting rich people have it easy in this political climate, he's a political chameleon and even the most headstrong leaders tend to bend over when the pressure really starts building.
Arr0wHead stole my thunder a bit, his comment nailed it...it's mighty SPECULATIVE to say Mustaine is "blaming Obama" when he doesn't even mention his name at all.
Big Megadeth fan for the music. I have no patience for his bs political views. Who cares if that company goes out of business, there are tons of more important issues. Cant stand when guys talk about this crap on stage.
If the radical right wants to secede I say LET THEM! They can have their own little country (maybe call it West Iran) where they can take away women's rights and gay rights and reinstate slavery and pretend that the world is 6,000 years old. Good Luck!!!
Love the Republican attitude of "democracy isn't currently working in our favour so it must be broken". The system in America may be broken, but seceding isn't exactly going to fix that. And Republicans have got in on very close margins before too.
As for Twinkies. As a Brit I hadn't ever had one till a few weeks back. Nothing special tbh. Just a shit chocolate eclair.
"Mustaine forgets to consider that the closure could be an effect of the global recession that hit America before Obama took office, and which no Western government has managed to solve."
After 4 years of Obama in office with no visible signs of economic improvement, there is absolutely no reason to sit here and go, "Yeah, well...it isn't Obama's fault". Pull your head out of your asses, UG Team.
Considering that the Federal Reserve floods the market with money created out of thin air/debt and inflates the currency, I fail to see how Obama was supposed to be the solution.
That man is right, Obama and Ben Burbank at the FED don't give orders to each others. If Hostess are closing it's more likely because of the Fed, or because the motherboard that owns Hostess (if there is one) wanted more money and don't want to sell one of it's trademark to commercial opponents that could make money out of it.
4 years and 4 redundancies later, my father has managed to find a secure job after the big "GEC", and we don't even live in the US. Don't say its Obama's fault the world is in shit, its been happening gradually for years. Give it time, it'll come right
The US is actually recovering, just painfully slowly. If you look at europe they tried the cutbacks that the republicans where pushing for and look at how there economy's blossoming now.
I gotta say something
1) Fuck you UG, you are here to flame mustaine and you were nowhere to be found when the US Marine Corps send him a medal, a flag and a letter for him less than a month ago.
2)Fuck all the ignorants, here and anywhere, who can't take that one person is giving out their opinion on public.
"Mustaine forgets to consider that the closure could be an effect of the global recession that hit America before Obama took office, and which no Western government has managed to solve."
And yet you pick Obama again as a president without realising that his goverment has a major focus on the social side of the goverment than the economic side. Don't get me wrong, he is a good president, but I still thinking that he is not the right person that the USA needs right now, and Ronmey was.
UG and many others here have also overlooked the fact that Mustaine didn't mention Obama once in this article, yet they were quick to blame Mustaine for saying Obama did it.
Bains performance record: 74 percent success rate for business's it invested in
Governments performance record: 92 percent success rate for business's it invested in
If you still believe that fifty percent failure rate fox news pulled out of it's ass look it up, 50 green energy companies have been invested in and only 4 failed, simple math.
Honestly the only policy I can think of that would been different would be romney sucking up to the coal industry (funny thing, turns out coal just isn't profitable enough any more because of the free market doesn't encourage overly expensive power plants that produce dirt cheap power from a energy intensive extraction process) and that his position on internet neutrality is that it would be an unfair (apparently having a level playing fields is unfair if it doesn't benefit your big contributors). I'm a bleeding heart liberal and he doesn't scare me on any social or major economic issues but the president selling out the control of the greatest free communication network ever created to corporations that are already unfairly screwing us is pretty freaky. also remember when believing in science and objective reality wasn't a party position?
Nobody brings up the fact that Hostess as had 8 CEO's in the past 12 yrs and upper management has mismanaged Hostess and have had to file bankruptcy 2 times in those last 12 yrs and want to blame it all on the workers. Maybe if they hadnt mismanaged and gave themselves fat bonuses every year they'ed still be in business. If us as regular Americans mismanage as bad as businesses do now a days we lose everything and even face jail time. America is screwed up right now and big business is to blame, it's so plane that Ray Charles could see it !!
No offense to Dave, but if 47 out of 51 states want to leave the USA just because Obama is president, wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just vote him out? That looks like a majority to me. But, I went to graduate school, my math might not be as good as almighty educated Dave Mustaine.
Twinkies went out of business because their greedy union workers went on strike asking for more when they should just be happy to have jobs. How you like your strike now ya morons???
"Greedy" union workers? Dude. They were getting paid almost minimum wage to work in a factory all day. It's almost as bad as working at Walmart, you can't live off of what they were paying,
Actually answers pretty simple. "Daddy and all his union buddies wanted more money, so we went on strike and put our EMPLOYER out of business, sorry kids you and all the other workers, some of which didnt support the strike are now all gonna be hungry." Hope you stocked up on twinkies.
That doesn't give the right for employers to be arseholes now does it? When you can barely afford to feed your kids, pay the rent or f*ckin pay for clean drinking water, then there is an extreme problem with your system. We aren't living in 17th century Europe where this shit was "okay", you guys wanna "pretemd" you're a top rate country then good luck, if you want to BE one, then f*ckin act like it!
Hostess went out of business because the workers were on strike because they wanted more pay and better work conditions. Hostess didnt give them that so the workers literally just walked out so Hostess has to close. The government didnt do shit Dave. Shut the **** up.
I love this guy! It's like listen to Rush Limbaugh. His comments and facts are so ridiculous that I can only take them as entertainment. People need to realize that congress is the problem and not the President. Yeah Obama is not a super star but Mitt Rommeny? Come on! GTFOH with that! That guy. His running mate was more qualified and to run for president than he was. He is the truth: WHen Bush was President he gave out alot of tax cuts, that cool and all thanks for looking out for people but when 9-11 happen that when things went wrong. We are part of the U.N. and in since Bush is not very diplomatic when dealing with other national he was ineffective in getting the U.N. to fully engage in the response to the attack. This caused mostly the U.S. and the U.K. (out of loyalty) to go into the war out of pocket. Spending all that money on the war plus the tax cuts put us in that hole. Had he persuaded the U.N. we probably would have cut down the cost on the war on terrorism.
You are correct. That bullshit war has sucked the life out our economy. I am middle of the road politically, but come on right-wingers. To deny what massive pile of crap Bush squatted out on us and then say Obama should have that scooped up by now...Really? It may take another decade to recover no matter who is president
The reason Hostess is going out of business is that because of years of bad management, the company is a billion $ in debt.
Management told their 18,500 employees that they'd have to take a 20% reduction in pay and benefits.
Rather than let management gouge their wages, the employees stood their ground and refused to cave, because they're not the ones that have mishandled the company's finances.
Going into bankruptcy court, management was still trying to get a multi-million dollar golden parachute deal for themselves.
None of this has anything at all to do with President Obama, but sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome, such as Dave Mustaine have to twist and distort everything so it fits into their delusions.
I'm actually surprised at this point Mustaine doesn't become a band leader on Fox & Friends, playing music bumpers while he and the hosts call everyone communists and make unfounded declarations of conspiracy.
American politics suck anyway, i'm a right-wing atheist. I don't like the leftish socialistic democrats and i don't like the republicans who want to force their christian rules on the whole society.
You guys should start a revolution to change the political system in America. No more winner takes it all system.
If a party gets 10% of the votes nationwide just give them 10% of the seats in the parliament.
Blah. It hasn't worked too well for Europe. The only reason our system has ceased to work anymore is because most people here are mind-controlled by the tv, and fed garbage from these "news" agencies. Not a chance these clowns could get away with this 40 or 50 years ago.
first of all i don't know much about politics but i think it's not all Obamas fault, and it's not (exclusively) his fault that there is no improvement in the economics.
i mean seriously, how many first world countries improved their economics?
The unions demanded things that the company couldn't afford, so the company folded up. Unions are the issue here. They were good when they were preventing child labor and 12-hour workdays with no breaks, but they now do more harm than good. This is a case in point. I really has nothing to do with the state of the government at all.
The last bit of respect I had for Dave is gone. The last album of their's I actually enjoyed was The System Has Failed. I've been listening to them for 11 years, and now, I think I am just going to remember the good times and leave it at that. For me, this is it, this is the countdown to extinction - or, forgive me, the countdown just ended.
STFU Mustaine! Hostess has been embroiled in bankruptcies and cash flow troubles throughout the entire 2000's. Every time he complains about something you can tell he hasn't looked into the facts of a situation. He just hears a negative headline, assumes it's "the gubberment's fault", and then makes up his own background information. It pisses me off. I can usually separate an artist's personal views and whatnot from the art, but when he consistently spouts such immature crap I can't help but hear things like "Obama setup the Aurora massacre" or "Obama destroyed your Hostess Ding Dongs" when I'm trying to listen to Good Mourning/Black Friday. He is such a douche. Dave, you aren't as intelligent as you think!
but he never blamed Obama for making Hostess go out of business... so wouldn't you be the unintelligent one for not reading and instead forming your own background information?
I'm of the opinion that both political parties are made up of lying, thieving, POS. Thats just me though.
Far as Dave goes, so what? I don't let celebs beliefs, or world views bother me, they are irrelevant. I either like what they do(music/acting), or not.
Maybe Dave should put all the focus he puts into politics into singing lessons instead, his voice is getting worse every time I see him. He sounds like he has laryngitis constantly now.
I notice how many people in the comments section are talking about Dave blaming Obama for this. That's funny, I didn't hear him mention Obama a single time in the video. What was that comment about Democrats not being melodramatic?
I know this might be a radical concept for you to wrap your head around, but it's almost as if those people are basing Dave's past actions and statements to form their opinion of them. How naive do you have to be see Dave blame Obama for everything else, including the Batman theatre shootings, cast doubt over the circumstances surrounding his birth, etc, and still say other people are just biased against him? He's blamed Obama and the American government for lots of things, in the very same context.
it clearly says he blamed the government, which is just political correct code for blaming this administration. I am sorry your small mind can't comprehend that. Now please stop bringing it up. He did blame Obama and he has been for several years now.
I saw Megadeth last Tuesday. In his defense, this is something he says in between songs on stage. Not a statement to the media. And he didn't say it was Obama's fault. Dave *does* need to learn how to shut up, but the media portrays him a lot worse than he is.
Aaaah, UG scrapes a talentless ginger from the barrel once more! In truth, the only news I want to hear from UG concerning mustaine is when they find a drug which will speed up this loser's descent into dementia, so that when he spazzes out into an angry right wing rant on stage, we'll actually understand why he did.
I fail to see how he is talentless. He may be an annoying pain in the ass but his fame precedes him and thats everything included;even talent.
You may not like Megadeths music, but their following is undeniable.
lol I love how he has no idea WHY Hostess is going out of business...
The company was poorly manages and was breaking union contracts. Stop blaming Obama for every ****ing problem. You're no better than all of the whiny tween punk bands that were complaining about Bush.
Hey Ultimate Guitar. Fuck your liberal bullshit. And go ahead and warn me or delete me, I don't give a flying ****. Dave actually has a point but you're a bunch of liberal ass kissers who have to put your spin on things for the many dumb shits who frequent your forums. Way to think for them, that works for a surprising majority of Americans. And I'm not a ****ing conservative. You UG ****s can all eat shit.
Why would it matter if any site were to swing one way or the other? If you aren't smart enough to think for yourself then that is a problem all on its own. Reporting what someone said is different from doing an analysis on what they said. Mustaine made an ass out of himself. Suck it up.
"Of course, this doesn't mean there is a serious movement to break up the US. It's likely to be a minority of angry Republicans who are bitter at losing the recent election."
It is bullshit like this that keeps the liberty movement from gaining its needed support. Many Americans want to secede not because Obama's in office, but because the government continually fingerfvcks the economy with its invisible hand. And that's just the financial aspect, don't get me started on NDAA and FEMA.
Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. You just said the government was using its invisible hand to ruin the economy. Really? Do you not understand what is meant by Adam Smith's "invisible hand?"
Completely agree, Thrash.aholic. I was about to address that exact same quote.
Who writes this shit really? I have gotten used to UG riding on the "Shut up Mustaine" trend but to get all "liberal" and belittle the people who support the secession movement is really crossing the line.
Completely agree, Thrash.aholic. I was about to address that exact same quote.
Who writes this shit really? I have gotten used to UG riding on the "Shut up Mustaine" trend but to get all "liberal" and belittle the people who support the secession movement is really crossing the line.
the most of you are ready to be lead off by big government I support Dave AND HIS BELIEFS Stay ignorant and you Will be the first to go as for me I will keep my guns and God
Mustaine forgets to consider that the closure could be an effect of the global recession that hit America before Obama took office, and which no Western government has managed to solve. UG blames bush. just like every liberal democrat and young dumb kid who knows nothing about politics out there. UG can you do me a favor? go **** yourselves
Please Dave... get back on the drugs. You seemed so much more sane when you were loaded. Oh, and another thing... there is no god, christian or otherwise. Religion is an opiate for simple minded fools. I think you should just stick with straight opiates, because since you've been born again your fan base has been leaving in droves.
"Whether you are a Democract or a Republican or a Libertarian or an Independent, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we’re Americans and we are not being treated right."
George Soros is loving what is happening b/c he GOT OBAMA and IF OBAMA WAS WHITE HE WOULD NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE TO A 1ST TERM. Any 2 year senator (US) with NO EXPERIENCE in the private industry would not have even been close. Soros sunk 5 billion in 08 for Democrats. Anyone report it Hell no why b/c Soros owns most if not all even Fox is not quite telling you the entire truth. The rest forget it they think Obama is the medias savior and lord.
All you Obama lovers who may play a Gibson under Obama the FBI raided Gibson took many woods they use for guitars but after 1 year Holder DOJ had not even charged them even though they were raided for using illigal woods. So give your Gibson to the gov. since Obama is your master.
do i admit mustaine talks alittle to much to fast about politics on stage yea i wont deny that, but everyone attacks him because hes known to do it and whenever anyone not famous or someone other than him talks about obama negatively it gets shoved off, damn ted nugent said he'd shoot the guy and he hates him just because he ant make rants doesnt mean he shouldnt be attacked either, lets nopt let his political beliefs ruin our thoughts of him as a person and his shredding ability with megadeth hes a great musician and a nice guy minus the people that act like an ass to him.
