Panic At The Disco Escape Emo

Panic At The Disco have claimed that their last album Pretty. Odd. helped them lose their emo tag.

Discussing their genre switch with BBC Radio 1's Newsbeat, the group said: "With this new record our main goal was to make people open their eyes and view us as a band and not really as a specific trend."

Guitarist Ryan Ross told Nme that the band are now focusing on writing material that they want to hear.

He explained: "Changing our sound and our image for the last album was risky, but it would have been riskier to fake something that we're not really interested in anymore and attempt to fool people into thinking that it's real.

"Kids are smart, and they can see if you believe in what you're doing or not. Writing a song trying to please someone else is dangerous, so we try not to think about anyone else while we're writing."

Thanks for the report to Digitalspy.co.uk.

Comments

[onthewaytohell]

Respect to them, even though im not into their music

[sucay]

I'm sure this album and ALMOST every band's album is made in such a way to please more than the band itself.

[The_String_Man]

yeah, respect to them, i listen to some of their stuff. its the old genre thing ripping music and musicians apart.

Since this is a new article, a warning to you all:

NO FLAMING.
NO SPAM.
Anyone who does either will receive a warning, or worse.

[ToolRickHead]

You can't escape emo.

[hendrixfreak93]

I'm glad to see that they have their heads on straight.
Their new album is really good, and I don't see how any of their music was ever considered 'emo'.

[food&liquor]

i still highly dislike their music, but i do agree with what he's saying.

[godberry]

"NO FLAMING
NO SPAM
Anyone who does either will receive a warning, or worse...


...DEATH!"

jk. i do think it's funny how UG automatically assumes that anytime a PATD article comes up there will be flaming and spamming. but seriously, i never really thought of PATD as an emo band. i've never really liked they're music, but at least they're creative.

please don't delete my profile UG

[rockfan7]

I like them so much more now. Before you could play a FOB song and theire old stuff and be like can't tell the diference. but now you can tell the difrence cause they are so much better sounding then FOB ever will ^.^

[gwitersnamps]

I used to think they were just another teen-pop band. Then I saw them cover "The Weight" on Live from Abbey Road. They have their act together, even if you don't care for their sound. Props to them.

[Its_Rock77]

PATD were never and never will be emo. People need to get their genres straight.

I like the direction they took though. It's nice easy listening, and I really didn't feel like another FYCSO.

[JBizzle Da Truf]

good for them. exploring music and what-not

[connorlawhorne]

Before you could play a FOB song and theire old stuff and be like can't tell the diference.

Have you ever heard either band? Panic's old stuff really did not sound like Fall Out Boy. I was never that into them, but their new record is really good, and it has actually made me like their old stuff a lot more.

[Frusciante30]

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

[CullenT]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

amen

[connorlawhorne]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

That's right, any music you don't like is manufacture garbage.

[Admiral Petty]

Man I despise the sound of these guys' music, the singer sometimes sounds like he's being lightly karate chopped in the throat. But at the same time I wish them no ill will as people.

PS The picture of the guitarist in this article kinda looks like Miley Cyrus in a way

[CowboyUp]

Don't get me wrong, I like their new album, but it's still definently pop punk/emo, just with a slight resemblance to the Beatles.

[sottpwn]

Props to them.

[heminder]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

well said...

[NemX162]

These guys are the perfect example of how the "emo genre" isn't even there. Everybody called them emo, as well as other bands that sound NOTHING like them...what constitutes as a genre these days?

Anyway, I don't really like the new album that much...

[shdowfox17]

well..

i cant flame.
so i wont.

but what is emo honestly?
kids flat ironing their hair,singing offkey?

PATD?
we got a winner.

P.S. dont delete me,UG

[MetalliRage]

these guys still aren't that good even if they say they aren't emo. i never cared if they r emo o not i just think their music is awful to be honest.

[stradivari310]

shdowfox17 wrote:

well..

i cant flame.
so i wont.

but what is emo honestly?
kids flat ironing their hair,singing offkey?

PATD?
we got a winner.

P.S. dont delete me,UG

That's not emo. Listen to the real emo movement from the 80's.

[becker009]

stradivari310 wrote:

shdowfox17 wrote:

well..

i cant flame.
so i wont.

but what is emo honestly?
kids flat ironing their hair,singing offkey?

PATD?
we got a winner.

P.S. dont delete me,UG
That's not emo. Listen to the real emo movement from the 80's.

word.
rites of spring, fugazi FTW.

[tom-the-lawn]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Ok so let's look at this for a second. The band writes their own music, so they're clearly 'manfactured' by the music industry.
And the band is successful so we'll call them 'mainstream garbage'. What a well thought out statement 'Frusciante30'.

[Black Revolver]

PATD were never and never will be emo. People need to get their genres straight.

emo isnt what it used to be, theres like a whole different definition of it now which people use too much.

there were bands i used to think were 'emo' and so for that reason i never listened to them. but a few months back i decided to listen to bands like taking back sunday, my american heart and 30 seconds to mars anyway and i loved them.(especially TBS, they have some really good lyrics and guitar riffs).

but anywayyy, i did give Patd a try and i didnt like them but their new stuff is pretty good! i guess the point of my essay is give them a try if you havent already

[Obie]

well these guys dont deserve praise from the get-go. why would you create a band to write songs to please other people? you write what YOU want from the bottom of your heart and hope that others like it. if they dont then too bad, at least your music is out there. that is the definition of musical freedom.

[tom-the-lawn]

NemX162 wrote:

These guys are the perfect example of how the "emo genre" isn't even there. Everybody called them emo, as well as other bands that sound NOTHING like them...what constitutes as a genre these days?

Well I know what you're getting at but at the same time 'Emo' to me basically just means a modern pop band.

[FireMadeFlesh]

This was a band that I really loved to hate until I heard The Green Gentlemen, and now I want to check out their new album.

[Armagedn]

tom-the-lawn wrote:
Well I know what you're getting at but at the same time 'Emo' to me basically just means a modern pop band.

Well, you're wrong. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend. The Jonas Brothers are a modern pop band, and they are most certainly not emo. Real emo is really fast power chords with whiny lyrics and some high pitched shrieking. Really, it's black metal without the blackness.

[CrabShrapnel]

So does this new direction include having the band at more than 5% of the mix? I'm tired of hearing nothing but vocals with this band. If they go in that direction, they might stand a chance of gaining new fans.

[whatamidoinhere]

"Kids are smart, and they can see if you believe in what you're doing or not."

They really aren't...
I don't think that even half the emo bands out there actually believe in what they're singing about if I'm honest

[Armagedn]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

You're getting them confused with the Jonas Brothers. That is manufactured mainstream garbage. But just because it's mainstream doesn't mean it's garbage. Maybe it's mainstream for a reason. Remember, Led Zeppelin was mainstream in the 70's. Although they weren't the "manufactured" part. My generation killed music...

[CrabShrapnel]

Armagedn wrote:

tom-the-lawn wrote:
Well I know what you're getting at but at the same time 'Emo' to me basically just means a modern pop band.
Well, you're wrong. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend. The Jonas Brothers are a modern pop band, and they are most certainly not emo. Real emo is really fast power chords with whiny lyrics and some high pitched shrieking. Really, it's black metal without the blackness.

black metal - blackness = metal != emo

something is off in your calculations lol

[Armagedn]

^^
I meant it sounds like black metal, but not nearly so dark.

[Deezlink]

Their older stuff wasn't emo. It was more of a mix of a few genres, and they got the label because of the way they look.

[garrett5]

Their new cd was okay.. it had a couple good songs, but nothing totally amazing, but I'm not a fan really.

They aren't as bad as people make them out to be!

[DOOdooroCK]

Armagedn wrote:

tom-the-lawn wrote:
Well I know what you're getting at but at the same time 'Emo' to me basically just means a modern pop band.
Well, you're wrong. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend. The Jonas Brothers are a modern pop band, and they are most certainly not emo. Real emo is really fast power chords with whiny lyrics and some high pitched shrieking. Really, it's black metal without the blackness.

Armagedn wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.
You're getting them confused with the Jonas Brothers. That is manufactured mainstream garbage. But just because it's mainstream doesn't mean it's garbage. Maybe it's mainstream for a reason. Remember, Led Zeppelin was mainstream in the 70's. Although they weren't the "manufactured" part. My generation killed music...

thx u

[LifesSweetDrug]

I though they were more pop not emo :S

[MusicalMinority]

Kudos to them for writing music that they actually believe in...

Even if I don't like any of it.

[liam177lewis]

yeah, theyre right, i mean when i heard the new album i genuinely thought it was fallout boy...

[thedarkblues06]

Really, it's black metal without the blackness.
black metal - blackness = metal != emo

something is off in your calculations lol

I mean, REALLY. Did he JUST say it was black metal? Omg...wtf?

I want to see where PATD is going to take it. it might be refreshing, but until them I'm regarding them as emo...and mainstream garbage, as was said up there. But with this release, i haven't lost complete hope.

[BigWrig]

I used to think I'd hate them because it seemed like the cool thing to do, right?

Well, that's pretty weak, so I gave them a try. Wasn't too bad. I heard them live a while ago and I enjoyed their set. They're definately a decent band. They get more crap than they deserve.

[WhiteStripesIII]

Up until yesterday I absolutely hated them like 99% of UG.

Saw them live at T in the Park and they were absolutely excellent- totally unexpected considering seeing videos of their previous live performances.

[espman445]

ToolRickHead wrote:

You can't escape emo.

hahaha you are correct

[TDKshorty]

I don't know, I used to like them, but now when I listen, and especially when I hear them, wanting people to not really label them as emo, that's kind of, I don't know, like it seems to me like they care too much about what they sound like or what people think about them
and like that to me, they lose respect from me, like they feel they have to prove to people they're something they are or aren't. i dnno.

[Frusciante30]

tom-the-lawn wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Ok so let's look at this for a second. The band writes their own music, so they're clearly 'manfactured' by the music industry.
And the band is successful so we'll call them 'mainstream garbage'. What a well thought out statement 'Frusciante30'.

Yes.
The 'music' is written, recorded and produced with the intention of appealing to a mainstream audience. Face it, it's pop.

connorlawhorne wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.


That's right, any music you don't like is manufacture garbage.

Frankly, yes.

[Aziraphale]

Deezlink wrote:

Their older stuff wasn't emo. It was more of a mix of a few genres, and they got the label because of the way they look.

Yup. Same with bands like Avenged Sevenfold, if they grew beards and dressed like the Foo Fighters, at least half the people who slag them off now would say they were awesome. But generally, die-hard "music fans" (=metalheads) tend to be very image-concious and have to look tough in front of their fellow "music fans". We just have to live with it, some grow up and some don't.

[emkaybee]

I don't really consider "emo" a genre of music. So, while I don't like Panic at the Disco, I certainly never considered them to be emo.

stradivari310 wrote:

rites of spring, fugazi FTW.

Wait... rites of spring? Are you referencing Stravinsky or is that a band?

[Frusciante30]

No. Just no.

[Aziraphale]

TDKshorty wrote:

I don't know, I used to like them, but now when I listen, and especially when I hear them, wanting people to not really label them as emo, that's kind of, I don't know, like it seems to me like they care too much about what they sound like or what people think about them
and like that to me, they lose respect from me, like they feel they have to prove to people they're something they are or aren't. i dnno.

If you were a young, creative band trying to just make fun and original music, and everyone slagged you off as emo for silly little details in your look or your singer's voice, resulting in such flame-festivals we've had here on UG, I think you'd get fed up with it aswell.

[haz_uk]

they were never emo, just naff.

[tom-the-lawn]

Frusciante30 wrote:

tom-the-lawn wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Ok so let's look at this for a second. The band writes their own music, so they're clearly 'manfactured' by the music industry.
And the band is successful so we'll call them 'mainstream garbage'. What a well thought out statement 'Frusciante30'.


Yes.
The 'music' is written, recorded and produced with the intention of appealing to a mainstream audience. Face it, it's pop.

Ok so what you're saying is that all music that is intended to be successful is pop.

[AngryGoldfish]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Have you actuallt asked them who wrote their music? Or are you just speculating? Manafactured music is, not neccesarily by defition, but is by my own viewpoint, a company, person(s) or entitiy coupling together to refine a sound they predict will earn enormous amounts of money for themselves, ignoring the fact that the band will receive much disregard and abuse from a certain clan of people; Narrow minded ones mainly, but some honest people who genuiley don't like their stuff. Just like the way some people don't like Trivium or The Smiths, for real reasons.

PATD are, to my knowledge, a real band. They created themselves and invented their personal sound that you obviously don't like. All you need is to say is, I don't like their music and their image. Opinions are good...speculations and assumptions are not.

[carlo754]

I still think of them as comercial shit

[dave742]

I knew they would do this...sorry but whats the point in a forum if u cant flame? THATS THE BLOODY POINT, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM

[rcazzy]

After seeing them live Saturday, I gotta say, I really did enjoy their show. Wasn't a huge fan but they changed the songs I knew into different versions, such as using acoustics and stuff. I was impressed by how good they were

[METALLICAFAN77]

Panic are in my opinion are very talented. They put out good music and the reason half of the idiots on this site flame them is because they are mainsteam. For some reason most people think that Mainstream= No talent, when in most cases its exactly the opposite. So you can listen to your crappy underground band as much as you want and hate them and their music as much as you like and thats fine. But dont say they have no talent or that they aer nothing but Emo, cause you dont know Shit.

Panic's! new album is awesome as well as there old one.

oh and its not constructive critism if you are .calling them Shit

[blasphemus666]

i didnt really see a difference between their new album and their old stuff. i dont really like their music...at all. but thats just my opinion.

[SharpObject]

I can't respect a band that yielded to trends in the first place

[SkyValley]

METALLICAFAN77 wrote:
For some reason most people think that Mainstream= No talent, when in most cases its exactly the opposite.

Well I wouldn't go as far as to say THAT. I mean, idk how talented PATD are but I'm sure they probably don't have the talent of Atheist or Porcupine Tree. I don't think any mainstream bands do. That doesn't mean mainstream can't be good, but usually underground bands have to work harder since they want to be very different.

Anyhow kudos to this band for trying to change and make music they like for once.

[cj10schmelzer]

METALLICAFAN77 wrote:

Panic are in my opinion are very talented. They put out good music and the reason half of the idiots on this site flame them is because they are mainsteam. For some reason most people think that Mainstream= No talent, when in most cases its exactly the opposite. So you can listen to your crappy underground band as much as you want and hate them and their music as much as you like and thats fine. But dont say they have no talent or that they aer nothing but Emo, cause you dont know Shit.

its not the complete opposite... most of the mainstream rock bands arent very good at all, except for a select few, and in my opinion, panic at the disco is not one of the select few.

[led_zep_1789]

music should be good....it shouldnt sound like panic at the disco or good charlotte or something...

"They're good but it sounds like....Well, it tastes like a frozen popcicle that's been stuck up somebody's ass, but that's my opinion. Some people are into that, who am I to say?" -Eddie Vedder .....

[cj10schmelzer]

i like you led_zep_1789, lol. thats exactly what i say. we need good music like it was with aerosmith, led zep, gnr, rolling stones, and others. not this pop punk crap... i mean pop is good, but not like how we hear it today.

[NowhereOutThere]

dave742 wrote:

I knew they would do this...sorry but whats the point in a forum if u cant flame? THATS THE BLOODY POINT, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM

Congratulations, you don't have a ****ing clue about what you are talking about.
Flaming: Making comments that are intentionally malicious and mean spirited in nature.

Constructive criticism: Giving opinions about what someone can do better.

But to add something worthwhile in this topic, good for PATD. I do not like this type of music, but at least they are trying to make a good name for themselves in the music community.

[yoshixxx7]

The whole thing is a contradiction. They say they don't care what other people think yet they also say their goal was to make people recognize them as not emo. Both cannot be true.

[eetfuk58]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

i can tell by your name that your a smart man haha.
and you are absolutely correct about their music.

[GNR'n'A7X]

CullenT wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

amen

+1

[PissInMyShoeses]

tom-the-lawn wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Ok so let's look at this for a second. The band writes their own music, so they're clearly 'manfactured' by the music industry.
And the band is successful so we'll call them 'mainstream garbage'. What a well thought out statement 'Frusciante30'.

He's right. Its music thats written to be popular with a certain group of people. Its not written to be good music or as an expression, its written to make money. REcord companies often try to pressure other bands into doing the same thing. I.E. Weezer

[Mattylightning]

Panic At The Disco have claimed that their last album Pretty. Odd. helped them lose their emo tag

hah there is no escaping their emo tag. They are emo and always will be.

[Deflection]

I think most people are sick of the term "emo" now. It's gotten way out of hand. Nobody knows what it means anymore.

[AnimatedHand]

onthewaytohell wrote:

Respect to them, even though im not into their music

+1
I'm not really a fan of their stuff, but yeah, respect to them

[Cameronrobson]

emkaybee wrote:

I don't really consider "emo" a genre of music. So, while I don't like Panic at the Disco, I certainly never considered them to be emo.

stradivari310 wrote:

rites of spring, fugazi FTW.

Wait... rites of spring? Are you referencing Stravinsky or is that a band?

A band. An awesome band.

[GuitaPlaya]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

And the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't? Pull your head out of your ass.

checked

[Frusciante30]

GuitaPlaya wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.


And the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't? Pull your head out of your ass.

My god. You poor, ignorant thing. The Red Hot Chili Peppers struggled for 6 years, touring up and down America in a knackered old van, before they made enough money to even make a living. They are not manufactured, they are an incredible band who believe in what they do. AK's book is full of criticisms towards record companies, especially EMI. John Frusciante never wanted fame or mainstream success, which was one of the main reasons why he left the band in 1992. Never, EVER, compare the RHCP to that pathetic excuse for a band. Pull your head out of your own arse and do your homework before you come out with crude, senseless statements like that.

[DaveGilmour1189]

it doesn't matter if their emo, i still think their music isn't that. But its relative, they seem to at least have a direction in their music, something i respect in both them and my chemical romance. Having been forced to listen to this at one point, at least they put out cohesive albums and not a collection of packaged radio hits. And its catchy to a degree. But i'll still prefer to put on something with some...balls? i mean that in the most un-inflamitory way. I just have no other word to describe why i never got into them.

Frusciante30 wrote:

GuitaPlaya wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.


And the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't? Pull your head out of your ass.

My god. You poor, ignorant thing. The Red Hot Chili Peppers struggled for 6 years, touring up and down America in a knackered old van, before they made enough money to even make a living. They are not manufactured, they are an incredible band who believe in what they do. AK's book is full of criticisms towards record companies, especially EMI. John Frusciante never wanted fame or mainstream success, which was one of the main reasons why he left the band in 1992. Never, EVER, compare the RHCP to that pathetic excuse for a band. Pull your head out of your own arse and do your homework before you come out with crude, senseless statements like that.

you obviously need to do your homework.

With this new record our main goal was to make people open their eyes and view us as a band and not really as a specific trend."

Guitarist Ryan Ross told Nme that the band are now focusing on writing material that they want to hear.

these few lines completely shatter your argument.

[limpdogskip]

GuitaPlaya wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

And the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't? Pull your head out of your ass.

If you're on a major record label, you're on it because you can make them money. Record labels are companies, and companies have one single goal: money. It's essentially impossible to be on these record labels without being forced into "manufactured, mainstream garbage."
Regardless of how "good" you think these bands are, they are constructed from (or forced into) a formula that easily influenced people fall prey to.

[vanceboy]

Kids are smart, and they can see if you believe in what you're doing or not.

No...kids really aren't that smart. Sorry, but this quote fails...

[Frusciante30]

Haha, it's quite funny to see how many people I've pissed off with my comments about this pathetic excuse for a rock band.

Frusciante30 wrote:

Haha, it's quite funny to see how many people I've pissed off with my comments about this pathetic excuse for a rock band.

it was funny to see you get so worked up over 2 sentences.

[GuitaPlaya]

Frusciante30 wrote:

GuitaPlaya wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.


And the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't? Pull your head out of your ass.

My god. You poor, ignorant thing. The Red Hot Chili Peppers struggled for 6 years, touring up and down America in a knackered old van, before they made enough money to even make a living. They are not manufactured, they are an incredible band who believe in what they do. AK's book is full of criticisms towards record companies, especially EMI. John Frusciante never wanted fame or mainstream success, which was one of the main reasons why he left the band in 1992. Never, EVER, compare the RHCP to that pathetic excuse for a band. Pull your head out of your own arse and do your homework before you come out with crude, senseless statements like that.

If Anthony Kiedis is so critical of EMI then why are the Red Hot Chili Peppers signed to them? That makes him a hypocrite which is even worse. If John Frucsiuntelry never wanted any mainstream success then why do the Red Hot Chili Peppers make appearances on MTV?

Maybe they use to be about the music but they aren't anymore. Just listen to Stadium Arcadium it completely sucks, just like every Red Hot Chili Peppers album Fruyscanier plays on.

okay it's got a bit off topic now.

no more RHCP talk.

[TheSoupDragon]

Frusciante30 wrote:

Haha, it's quite funny to see how many people I've pissed off with my comments about this pathetic excuse for a rock band.

You haven't pissed anyone off.
People just think you're stupid.

As far as I'm concerned, certainly with the new album, Panic are pretty much a pop band.
I never thought they were exactly rock and roll.
But is that so bad?
I guess Some people are just very narrow minded.
Panic's first album was fairly unique.
The new album sounds like [I'm not putting them on a level with them] The Beatles.
I don't hear any mainstream bands making that sort of music.

[timster36]

gwitersnamps wrote:

I used to think they were just another teen-pop band. Then I saw them cover "The Weight" on Live from Abbey Road. They have their act together, even if you don't care for their sound. Props to them.

yeah i saw that on sundance, totally agree. i wanted to see how "bad" they would be and was surprised that they were actually quite ok/good!

[burn the stars]

connorlawhorne wrote:

Before you could play a FOB song and theire old stuff and be like can't tell the diference.

Have you ever heard either band? Panic's old stuff really did not sound like Fall Out Boy. I was never that into them, but their new record is really good, and it has actually made me like their old stuff a lot more.

i think hes talking about the vocal style, in which case yes they do sound alike.

as far as the emo tag, cant be what you never were.

[Glam-Hammer]

They'll never escape it.

[IamGod 666]

Its_Rock77 wrote:
People need to get their genres straight.FYCSO.

I hate genres

[IamGod 666]

Sry for the double post. My friends like them but I don't get it. Why should this be any different?

[AmpleSteak]

People just think their emo because of the singer's voice and the way they look... Also the really long and stupid titles also have something to do with it.

[HolySmoke]

Armagedn wrote:

tom-the-lawn wrote:
Well I know what you're getting at but at the same time 'Emo' to me basically just means a modern pop band.
Well, you're wrong. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend. The Jonas Brothers are a modern pop band, and they are most certainly not emo. Real emo is really fast power chords with whiny lyrics and some high pitched shrieking. Really, it's black metal without the blackness.

Sounds like blasphemy

[SharpObject]

I know how to settle this!

Any band that gets' excessive MTV airtime, sports queer trendy haircuts and is drooled over by teenage girls is now tagged "emo" and officially determined a waste of time and NOT music.

[TDAJGuitarist]

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.

Couldnt have said it better myself!

[MegaRon]

I like a few of their songs, it'll be interesting to see where they go to try and escape the 'emo' label.

[joker_thief]

good for them but i find it hard take them seriously

[yerdumb666]

the only reason they are ditching emo is that its not trendy anymore. its trendy to say your not following a specific trend.

[jtgjazz]

Jesus Escaping Emo? Did Anyone Else See That Panic At The Disco Picture That Was On The Homepage A Few Weeks Ago. Not Emo My Ass

And YEs They Are Mainstream Garbage

[dash///180]

man half you guys are posers. all of you that just instantly looks at a band and says there emo doesnt know anything. i dont even like these guys and im saying that. emo music is not decided by power chords that is the stupidest thing i have heard all week. its the lyrics and the emotion. there stupid hair cuts dont make them emo either. nor do there girl pants. thats just them being posers

[dash///180]

look not looks

[David_Bowie=GOD]

godberry wrote:

"NO FLAMING
NO SPAM
Anyone who does either will receive a warning, or worse...


...DEATH!"

jk. i do think it's funny how UG automatically assumes that anytime a PATD article comes up there will be flaming and spamming. but seriously, i never really thought of PATD as an emo band. i've never really liked they're music, but at least they're creative.

please don't delete my profile UG

Only reason I ever did was because of how they dressed. But I have to say as a hater of most things emo, the new cd > the old one. Improvement. Kudos to them for moving away from this terrible genre.

[AFrozenFlame89]

dash///180 wrote:

look not looks

....you read over your whole post and that was all you decided to edit? Lawl.

Anyway, I respect this band much more after P.O.
Another Fever could/would have sucked. I'm glad they took some risks.

[suthy16]

Frusciante30 wrote:Face it, it's pop.

There is good pop, though.

Cyndi Lauper's a pop artist and she may just be one of the most influential female artists of our time.
The Beatles were a pop act. They might just be one of the most influential musical acts ever.

Just because something's "pop" doesn't necessarily mean it's garbage.

[dash///180]

dont compare these guys with the beatles

[Set-Abominae]

It almost sounded like this guy admitted to being a trend.

[bpazolli]

I never could understand why some people automatically think pop=bad. Pop is popular, it seems to me like saying to someone I don't like you cause your such a friendly guy.

[NewsoftheWorld]

fake something that we're not really interested in anymore and attempt to fool people into thinking that it's real.

Does this mean that they have been faking being "emo"?

[alaub1491]

ripjoestrummer wrote:

Once you go emo, you never go back until you kill yourself. Go cut your selves, stupid emos.

No lyrics in Panic At The Disco's music has much at all to do with killing yourself.

Most of their music is about sex, drugs, affairs, and love....which most music I, along with most humans, listen to is about.

[aza_rock_god]

ToolRickHead wrote:

You can't escape emo.

+1

[GuitarHero0715]

Emo has nothing to do with music in my opinion, emo is real, but emo is everyone/anyone thats depressed.
You people confuse emo with scene kids. Emo kids can be anyone, hell, the most metal metalhead metalband could be an emo band, Alexi Laiho is/was emo. It has nothing to do with music, every genre has its dark lyrics.
So to end it, not all scene kids are emo, not all emo kids are scene.

[BaSSiSt_METAL]

GuitarHero0715 wrote:

Emo has nothing to do with music in my opinion, emo is real, but emo is everyone/anyone thats depressed.
You people confuse emo with scene kids. Emo kids can be anyone, hell, the most metal metalhead metalband could be an emo band, Alexi Laiho is/was emo. It has nothing to do with music, every genre has its dark lyrics.
So to end it, not all scene kids are emo, not all emo kids are scene.

emo is nothing
emo is label ppl give to other ppl
some ppl take emo as teh clothes other the personality
to me its all the same
emo scene skeet prep gangsta
there all stupid labels
i do call ppl skeet and preps but i use them
to label *******s or jerks

checked.

[firsttoknow]

please look up emo on wikipedia, because none of you know what it is. panic at the disco was never emo, neither is wearing tight pants and having hair in one eye. fugazi and rites of spring are REAL emo

[Toaster Pastry]

Now it just sounds like they're trying to be Queen

[Y&Dshredder]

heminder wrote:

Frusciante30 wrote:

I don't care if they're emo or not.
Their music is, and always will be, manufactured, mainstream garbage.
well said...

+1

[verona_bassist]

regardless of what theyve done in this last album, i believe that they will always be reffered to as an emo band

firsttoknow wrote:

please look up emo on wikipedia, because none of you know what it is. panic at the disco was never emo, neither is wearing tight pants and having hair in one eye. fugazi and rites of spring are REAL emo

and i think more than half of the people putting comments in this article know who fugazi is

[BassFishin]

despite anything that anyone has brought up, i have to say i give respect to ryan ross for what he said about faking his music. thats the worst thing any musician can ever do.

[shadowsofbodom]

im pretty sure UG already had this article..... first it was that they arent emo cuz they dropped the ! and now its that they arent emo cuz they made a cd..... WOW UG.... THIS IS SUCH GREAT NEWS!!!!! hmmm..... is dragonforce still power metal? or did that change suddenly too..... please let me know when something interesting happens like a break up or drunk argument

[Cutlass_253]

I hate people who hold on to the old definition of emo. It's changed, and it will never go back. You don't decide what the music is called, MTV does. Fugazi WAS emo, now there are a bunch of other bands who don't sound like Fugazi that are emo. Yes, they really are, because somebody else says so. By not following the trend you're getting left behind. It's true, but its not really a bad thing. Maybe it should have been called Nu Emo, but it wasn't and so the two styles of music have the same name. To me, Panic at the Disco are a completely average band. They're definately more pop than rock, but they're just having fun with their band, and isn't that what its all about? I won't talk sh t about another band just cuz I'm not a fan.

[tempesthero512]

Cutlass_253 wrote:
I hate people who hold on to the old definition of emo. It's changed, and it will never go back. You don't decide what the music is called, MTV does. Fugazi WAS emo, now there are a bunch of other bands who don't sound like Fugazi that are emo. Yes, they really are, because somebody else says so. By not following the trend you're getting left behind. It's true, but its not really a bad thing. Maybe it should have been called Nu Emo, but it wasn't and so the two styles of music have the same name. To me, Panic at the Disco are a completely average band. They're definately more pop than rock, but they're just having fun with their band, and isn't that what its all about? I won't talk sh t about another band just cuz I'm not a fan.

dude. youre totally right. but panic is fun to make fun of.

[hidgfujzaieity]

My god. You poor, ignorant thing. The Red Hot Chili Peppers struggled for 6 years, touring up and down America in a knackered old van, before they made enough money to even make a living. They are not manufactured, they are an incredible band who believe in what they do.

im sure its easy to believe in music that is basically the same crappy song over and over

[DanteLord]

ugh. I am so tired of people getting worked up over emo.

CHILL THE F*CK OUT, GUYS.

Just because an article on UG comes up that isnt about your favorite death metal band doesnt mean you need to sit on your computer and find ways to diss them.

If they consider themselves emo, more power to them. Anyone can choose their own label. Stop caring if they decide to be emo. Or not. just chill.

[FiveStarMotel]

Wow, holy crap they're actually a good band now. Only one good thing ever come outta emo. And that's Brand New. Thank god Panic[!] At the Disco escaped emo. Good for them

[SOUPerman432321]

i think people should stop trying to 'escape emo' i mean if thats what you like to play, do it. and also, i think genres are stupid. It makes people judge bands before they hear them. i think if people were to stop catagorizing music, there would be no mold to try to fill, and maybe there would be more diversity in music, the more unique and creative a band, the harder it is to place them in a genre.

[hidgfujzaieity]

SOUPerman432321 :
i think people should stop trying to 'escape emo' i mean if thats what you like to play, do it. and also, i think genres are stupid. It makes people judge bands before they hear them. i think if people were to stop catagorizing music, there would be no mold to try to fill, and maybe there would be more diversity in music, the more unique and creative a band, the harder it is to place them in a genre.

i completely agree. that would be perfect. it will never happen though

[DimeLvR]

I think you all should give em a break Little tweenieboppers need something to listen to, let them feel ripped off and angry once they get into their teens they next thing ya know they are learin Pantera,opeth,megadeth tabs. To me Emo is not a style of music but more so the image. Wouldnt it be hard to call yourself Metal or rock if your wearin young girls jeans? To lable it Emo just makes it easier.

[original=punk]

first album sucked. Sounded liek they were worrying what Pete thought was good, and not what they thought sounded good.

Pretty.Odd. sounds amazing, i listen to it every day. They have the potential to be one of the best pop bands of the early 2000s.

[uiop21]

I think that you guys that are calling it mainstream trash have not listened to one song off their new album. Their new stuff does not fit in with the alternative shit thats on the radio nowadays.

[groll01]

so they admit that they used to write songs to fit a specific trend? wow what great credibility they have now :/

[Frewak]

I think that they're actually pretty good. I heard them live after their first album, and they were just average, couldn't sing or play live too well, but now, after their second album they really improved live.

They write all their music and everything as well, which is another plus.

[diamondstars*]

panic sound better now!! Pretty.odd.is pretty.amazing. (ha ha..see what i did there...ok, i'll crawl back into my hole now!!) . i'm glad they're not called emo anymore,they weren't even emo to start with.

[Metallicaloveu]

I never thought they were "emo". I liked their first album but from what I've heard off of the new album I've really gone off them.

[RunawayKaren]

So basically they wrote their first album in a way they knew would garner success and then their second to what they really like, cause it would sell based on reputation alone?
And to top it off their new album completely blows....I don't see them lasting much longer after this, and rightfully so.

If they made what they wanted to from the beginning they would deserve respect, but the fake it till you make it attitude just proves they are leeches.

[rebelmidget]

CowboyUp wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I like their new album, but it's still definently pop punk/emo, just with a slight resemblance to the Beatles.

i do hope your joking
because if your not then you're spewing pure musical ignorance

[justiferatu]

so i notice after reading far too many props comments, i have one thing to point out that many of you have obviously overlooked: they are NOW going to focus MORE on writing what THEY WANT.

if you dont get it ill explain. people just take what ever theyre given and dont think about it.

what were they doing before? if theres a change to writing MORE of what they want they must've been writing what someone else wanted. aka corporations out to make some bucks by marketing music and images that will sell whether its good or not.

MORE of what they want? how about ALL of what they want. think about what wasnt said. if they were going to write it all themselves theyd say it.

im not making any opinions of them or their music because i dont care. what i do care about is people eating up this garbage that their doing something wonderful when its not even that great. theres plenty of bands that do ENTIRELY what they want.

[justiferatu]

SOUPerman432321 wrote:

i think people should stop trying to 'escape emo' i mean if thats what you like to play, do it. and also, i think genres are stupid. It makes people judge bands before they hear them. i think if people were to stop catagorizing music, there would be no mold to try to fill, and maybe there would be more diversity in music, the more unique and creative a band, the harder it is to place them in a genre.

you say genres make people judge like its a bad thing. im pretty sure all the the bands that most would consider 'emo' arent relying on my listening to them to make or break their career. (especially buying their album. they get like fifteen cents per album. all their money comes from merch and touring.) they wont change my life and make me realize the error of my ways. so why should i have to listen to their album thoroughly to decide i dont want to listen? maybe we should make a system of categories that can classify music so we can narrow down the millions of bands to the ones we like so maybe we can hear music of the similar style that we enjoy.. thatd be cool! oh wait we have it already, its called genres. now dont get me wrong because i know the response to this. i listen to just about all sorts of music. i do tend to steer clear of mainstream because if its really that good theyll still be successful in two five ten years etc. i wont financially support the get rich quick scheme that a good portion of what mainstream music is.

one more thing there is plenty of diversity of music, they just dont play it all on the radio because it doesnt sell as well. radio plays what the general population wants which is usually the flavor of the week. they change it to keep it interesting. now its 'emo' which isnt really what is being played at all. a few years back it was 'punk' which meant good charlotte and simple plan whos sound may resemble punk but it is most definitely not. people want to embrace these genres that are normally different for the norm so they can feel original. because few have the audacity to actually be different. or even themselves, heaven forbid. so it sells. so back to the point of this portion, there is diversity it just harder to sell ten entirely different products than to just focus on one really sellable one. and many slight variations of it.

[rob_larry01]

the only thing i've worked out from the stupid arguments goin on here is that clearly a lot of people don't know how the music business works
people assume that because their favourite band is underground that they must be a "real" band who don't care about getting rich or famous, or playing to a whole lotta people
i'm sure some of them are like that, but here's the kicker: 99% of those bands are only doing that and saying that because they haven't made it

i do know a few examples of bands who want to just have fun and not be signed...a local band where i come from have turned down plenty of offers from labels, but they are in the tiny minority.

PATD have managed to turn their sound around, and you've got to give them props for making music they want to play, not what they think their fans want to hear.

if anyone here came close to doing a music marketing course, or was working in the music business, you'd have a lot more respect for bands, whatever their "genre," and however famous or not they are.

-rob

[justiferatu]

thats not my point in the slightest. famous or not i dont care. making money or not i dont care. its a matter of playing/selling what you want because its what you want rather than playing/selling what will make the most money the quickest. aka the boybands. its mainly marketing. thats why i mentioned the test of time. and i wont give them props for claiming theyre doing what they shouldve done in the first place. i have a fair understanding of the music industry/ marketing etc. my point is if someone can make enough money (an abundance is just fine as well its a matter of the means of how they got it) doing what they love thats the best thing in the world

[justiferatu]

i guess if what they love is the act making money by playing what sells then who am i to judge?

[rob_larry01]

yeahh there's your problem
you assume people who make music to sell it don't also love that kind of music

[toolazytodie]

They didn't actually write their first album so as to impress the masses. Some of the songs written their ewre about Ross' drunkard father. Music is his output.

Now they decided to change directions because, as Ross said, "It's hard to write depressing so