Pete Doherty Says Sorry For Singing Nazi Anthem In Germany

Peter Doherty has apologized for singing the opening lines of the Nazi national anthem while at a gig last Saturday in Germany.

The Babyshambles frontman was escorted off stage at a festival in Munich after he sang a few lines of The Song For Germany - he verse Adolf Hitler used when the Nazis were in power.

In a statement, Doherty's spokeswoman stated he "wanted to celebrate his appearance in Munich by assimilating and integrating with the crowd, something he tries do wherever he goes." She continued declaring Doherty was unaware of the controversy and he apologizes if he has caused any offence.

"Peter himself is from Jewish descent and has fought against racism and fascism with numerous organisations including Love Music Hate Racism."

Although being on tour in Germany at the moment, Doherty and the rest of The Babyshambles are rumoured to be heading into the studio to work on nine demos for their third upcoming album.

Comments

[whiteshadow15]

He wanted to integrate with a German crowd by singing the Nazi national anthem? He's either incredibly stupid or he was strung out on drugs again.

[Jesus_Dean]

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

[Hexagram]

haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there

[punXander]

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

[foo_diddles]

punXander is right, i get really pissed when I'm told my people were slaveholders, I didn't do it...

[Comeback Kiddd]

this is almost as bad as Borat singing a fictional Kazakhstan national anthem to the tune of The Star-Spangled Banner

[Oden The Great]

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

no they shouldnt be they were repressed by hitler and have every right to be pissed because he was steryotyping gremans to be nazis

[megaironpriest]

Why wouldn't he just sing the national anthem that they usally sing?? He isn't the brightest

[destöroyah]

Comeback Kiddd wrote:

this is almost as bad as Borat singing a fictional Kazakhstan national anthem to the tune of The Star-Spangled Banner

"almost as bad"?

[MattA7Xfan4Life]

He wanted to integrate with a German crowd by singing the Nazi national anthem? He's either incredibly stupid or he was strung out on drugs again.

The Nazi national anthem was just a line taken from the original national anthem. i believe it was the first line. so, he picked up the first line of the national anthem not realizing that Germans very rarely sing the national anthem for fear of being called Nazis.

[Sen-si]

Doherty was unaware of the controversy

Wow... WWII? the Holocaust? The T-4 Program? Genocide and murder? The fact that holocaust denial in Germany is a crime? WTF was he 'unaware' of?? Of course in controvercial, it was only 70 years ago! Stupid smack addict.

[Abacus11]

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there

The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

[him2her]

Would he ever make it into the music press if he didn't cause some sort of controversy? haha

[Univibe]

Who gives a shit, his music is over rated anyway.

[what??]

Sen-si wrote:

Doherty was unaware of the controversy

Wow... WWII? the Holocaust? The T-4 Program? Genocide and murder? The fact that holocaust denial in Germany is a crime? WTF was he 'unaware' of?? Of course in controvercial, it was only 70 years ago! Stupid smack addict.

He was unaware of the fact that the national anthem was offensive. I highly doubt that he is unaware of the Third Reich and WW2 dumb[b]ass[/b].

[huevos]

him2her wrote:

Would he ever make it into the music press if he didn't cause some sort of controversy? haha

Sounds like a troll to me. He probably did it for the controversy.
The lulz are the only valid reason; self-promotion is not.

[edflinkinp]

Wow, that guy is seriously damaged. Artists, public figures: You really need to do your research if you want to do something in a foreign country.. I am from Venezuela and last year's Miss Universe (miss Venezuela) went through a lot of scrutiny 'cause she was dumb enough to say that "the people in Guantanamo were really warm, I had a lot of fun" .. That is a sensitive issue for americans and cubans. This should be no different. Do your research, just that. A few lines in german would've been enough if you wanted to connect with the crowd.. Something like "seid ihr bereit?" [are you ready?] (yeah I picked that from Rammstein)

[CrowLord]

he clearly just didnt realise the Nazi connotations that song had. I certainly didn't know that song did before. Can you guys honestly say you knew that this "Song For Germany", which on the face of it looks like a nice song to sing at a German show, was one of Hitler's favourites. i ****ing doubt it

[stumaster18]

Comeback Kiddd wrote:

this is almost as bad as Borat singing a fictional Kazakhstan national anthem to the tune of The Star-Spangled Banner

lmao greattttt movie

[toine]

why do people still care what Pete Doherty does?

[TheStoneGod]

either packed full of drugs or brain dead. oh wait, it's both..

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

oh man this guy is awesome...

[XtractionProces]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, oh wow...

I hate this douche. I always have.

[Zanon]

She continued declaring Doherty was unaware of the controversy

Oh so it's totally alright to be naive about the biggest war in history

[nirvanafan11111]

okokok, enough, what happened was: He sang 2 lines from the german national anthem that were taken out after ww2. I read it in a paper this morning, thats not naive thats a mistake geez you people get on your high horse over anything. And for the record I hate Pete Doherty, but seeing all you tweens get carried away by this article was making me a bit sick.

[RockInPeaceDime]

Oden The Great wrote:

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

no they shouldnt be they were repressed by hitler and have every right to be pissed because he was steryotyping gremans to be nazis

eh the German public was not innocent in what happened during WW2 at all. Granted, it was a very tough time, but to pretend they were just victims of a madman isn't the full truth.

[libertines4ever]

it's the first verse of the song that was used by the nazis
the third verse is the national anthem since 1991

well.. he obviously started at the first verse, which is what one usually does with songs but didn't research about the background of it.

[Phantasmasaurus]

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

[jannick]

Don't apologize! blame the drugs.
Rammstein aren't sorry and they aren't holding back any nazi inspired lyrics.
This just makes him a pussy...

[trouble37]

Wow alot of morons on here. It's not like those few lines say anything about nazis or hitler in it. Their just two lines from an old anthem that happened to be Hitler's favorite. I'm sure he just looked up the anthem and sang a few lines thinking it'd be nice not knowing the history behind it. Just like im sure 99 percent of you don't know the history behind it or the words.

[BringerOfMetal]

Okay, tell me again,

...what does this have to do with guitar?

[jmetalf]

"- he verse Adolf Hitler used when the Nazis were in power." PROOFREAD THIS SH*T U-G. THIS IS SLOPPY and EMBARRASSING.

[lzrdsixsix6]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

yeah but my fellow countrymen would probably be proud of doing something like that to another country...it's how we are esp, when someone attacked us first.

[AndrewAnthem]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

HAHA FUCK HIROSHIMA!!!! what we did was right..what germany did was wrong..germans need to get over it...

[AndrewAnthem]

Phantasmasaurus wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

i know the germans need to get over it!!!

[Andras5soul]

the funny thing is, so many of them want to hear it. Sure, most don't, but there is still a very large extreme right wing following in many of the eastern european countries including germany. I'm pretty certain however that what pete did was illegal as germany has banned all nazi/fascist activity and imitation.

[D'sa]

im from germany and i think it was stupid what Pete did but it isn't like that, that we have now a problem with Pete, i mean i didnt even heard this thing with Doherty in Radio or TV, its not really such a big deal.

[Nameless742]

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

Lol yeah, however I bet that's what THEY were saying to us after we made them pay billions in reperations.
but anyway, who cares about Pete Docherty? really? WHO!?

[D'sa]

D'sa wrote:

im from germany and i think it was stupid what Pete did but it isn't like that, that we have now a problem with Pete, i mean i didnt even heard this thing with Doherty in Radio or TV, its not really such a big deal.

But the radio (or tv i dont know it) station which played that concert aborted the concert after he began to sing.

[Mayngel]

Andras5soul wrote:

the funny thing is, so many of them want to hear it. Sure, most don't, but there is still a very large extreme right wing following in many of the eastern european countries including germany.

Somehow I doubt members of the extreme right listens to Pete Doherty .. Heck I didn't think anyone still listened to him...

[Rizzo228]

Pete.... Beating yea bi

[909bastard]

thats usin your brain pete! what that hell did he think was gonna happen?

[zAg1619]

Oden The Great wrote:

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

no they shouldnt be they were repressed by hitler and have every right to be pissed because he was steryotyping gremans to be nazis

Are you kidding me? Repressed by Hitler? They loved the guy. He was a hell of a public speaker, and he rose to power through the legal ways, and then seized the country by the balls.

[Nirvanarien]

Hexagram wrote:

haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there

Yeah strange huh? I mean it's not like they had anything to do with it....(note; it's just a joke im not trying to instul you, thanks for your understanding and have nice day!)

So he's trying to relate to the German crowd by singing the Nazi Anthem? Does he think that de NSDAP is still a big thing over there? Jeez what an idiot....

[muse-ik]

Okay, to clear it up for all of you who think Doherty is stupid because he didn't realise the "controversy", it means he didn't realize the controversy associated with the first line of the German national anthem, which was a single line Hitler often used to unite the Nazis. Of course he would have realized the controversy IF he had known what the line meant to Germans.

[zAg1619]

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

11 Million? That was just the Jews.. Everyone seems to forget how many Russians the Nazis killed. Soviet Union lost about 25 million people(a number that dwarfs 11 mil), only a third of which were combat related last I heard.

[Jondy]

He FOUGHT racism? What'd he do, punch racism in the face?

[99_]

What a talentless tosser.

[blasphemus666]

is there a video of this??

[Deece]

Hes not dead yet?

[guitarest99]

declaring Doherty was unaware of the controversy now thats some funny sh1t. Unaware of the controversy; so whats next support tunes for Jim Jones

[brentondig]

I suppose the audience would have liked it better if they were old WW2 Nazi veterans, not 20-30 somethings who had no involvement in WW2 and Nazism.

[niel9802]

jannick wrote:

Don't apologize! blame the drugs.
Rammstein aren't sorry and they aren't holding back any nazi inspired lyrics.
This just makes him a pussy...

care to give an example? and dont say 'links 234', because i'll know what youre getting at.

[DavexMustaine77]

Ahem, he sang the Nazi Anthem what did he expect?

[Muckle]

Perhaps he googled the german national anthem and got the old version:P

[WaveCaster97]

DavexMustaine77 wrote:

Ahem, he sang the Nazi Anthem what did he expect?

Zanon wrote:

Oh so it's totally alright to be naive about the biggest war in history

Some of you R-Tards need to read the entire article before you post. Even read it twice if it helps. FFS he knows about WWII and he didn't know that the any part of the song represented Nazism as I'm sure most of us didn't know until reading this article. You can yell at him for not doing his homework but you can't believe that a Jewish guy is a Nazi.

[liam1107]

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

this is what i like to see, half decent comments

[jod23]

what a dumb f*ck

[TheEsupremacy]

I can't think of a bigger idiot in music than this guy. Thank God we don't get much news on him in the states.

[element4433]

I'm not deleting the flaming/spam comments in here because they are deserved. But don't use that as an excuse to go crazy.

Checked.

[wouldyakindly]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

Not to mention the near genocide of the native Americans, which seems to have been largely forgotten by history...

[socialtangent]

What an idiot. I'm sure it didn't even need to be said that Germany wants nothing to do with Hitler or Nazis anymore.

[Antoine-Øleg]

whiteshadow15 wrote:

He wanted to integrate with a German crowd by singing the Nazi national anthem? He's either incredibly stupid or he was strung out on drugs again.

It always can be both things. You know...

[41plus182]

99_ wrote:

What a talentless tosser.

jod23 wrote:

what a dumb f*ck

TheEsupremacy wrote:

I can't think of a bigger idiot in music than this guy. Thank God we don't get much news on him in the states.

socialtangent wrote:

What an idiot. I'm sure it didn't even need to be said that Germany wants nothing to do with Hitler or Nazis anymore.

I agree with all of these guys.

[Captain Sadler]

Andras5soul wrote:

the funny thing is, so many of them want to hear it. Sure, most don't, but there is still a very large extreme right wing following in many of the eastern european countries including germany. I'm pretty certain however that what pete did was illegal as germany has banned all nazi/fascist activity and imitation.

What exactly does anything "right-wing" have to do with Nazism? I'm kinda lost here...

[pistols]

Hexagram wrote:

haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there

pretty damn serious. nazi beliefs are illegal there...an RAC band from germany was the first band ever to be classed as a criminal organisation.

[pistols]

also, captain sadler; right wing usually refers to nationalist and racialist political beliefs.

[basscrue]

This guy is an Idiot.

My Grandfather fought in WWII, he got shot 3 times, and took shrapnel from a munitions round. He also has the job of liberating a camp, all this after North Africa, Sicily, Anzio, and up through Italy.

Nothing about it is funny,nothing about it is cool. Many American G.I.s in Europe were wondering why they were there, after all Japan attacked us. Then they came across the first camp. They knew that this was bigger then, and carried more meaning than anything else going on in this world!

[The Arsis]

What a dumb junkie.

[IAmCool123]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

well im not really sure about you guys, but I didnt kill millions of people at Hiroshima. Just because were from America doesnt mean we chose for the US military to hurt all of those people

[Notoriousdoc]

Listen, don't mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right.

[Bighair]

He didnt mean to offend anybody, it was an honest mistake. He was just singing the national anthem. It only has links with Nazism because of Hitler, they should probably take back the national anthem or write a new one if they're so offended.

[[travis]]

There's no excuse for singing that.

[Beerad1337]

I don't know who this guy is. And as controversial and offensive it was, I find what he did hilarious. I also find it stupid that they're still embarrassed about something that happened so long ago.

[Metal_Militia15]

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

Funny you say that, that's exactly the reason WW2 got started, just with the Germans being touchy about WW1.

[Rengori]

Bighair wrote:

He didnt mean to offend anybody, it was an honest mistake. He was just singing the national anthem. It only has links with Nazism because of Hitler, they should probably take back the national anthem or write a new one if they're so offended.

I looked into it after this post to see exactly how easily it would be to make this mistake, and learned there are three verses to the song, only the third is used today. The first verse is the one that was used by Nazi Germany, which is the one Doherty sang. At first I was going to say that it would be a stretch to sing the wrong national anthem, but after looking at it does seem more like an honest mistake because it seems logical to start with the first verse, and if the place he got the lyrics didn't mention that's the Nazi verse...

[mrbeetham]

The thing is it wasnt that long ago. My friends grandmother (roughly in her 70's) was put in a concentration camp when she was very young. Luckily she wasnt killed but the rest of her family was and as a result she has never had a family and doesnt even know what year she was born, let alone what date. Killing millions of people isnt something you just 'get over'. Pete doherty is a stupid douche.

[mrbeetham]

Id also like to add that its the holocaust is quite different to the americans bombing hiroshima etc. The americans were ending a war and bringing peace, not trying to take over the world. Germans are a lot more sensitive about it because they are the villains of WWII. I personally can understand where they are coming from.

[NewsoftheWorld]

Wait,who's Pete Doherty?

[Morbidyeti]

wow....what a dumbass

[Dumpster510]

lol

[Dumpster510]

wouldyakindly wrote:

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"
Not to mention the near genocide of the native Americans, which seems to have been largely forgotten by history...

I hate to be a dick but science tells us all humanity came from Africa. Every nation has been forged in bloodshed and taking another's land...even the 'native' americans.

[VanTheKraut]

Racist Pig. All I have to say. As someone who has dual citizenship in both Germany and America, I along with the majority of my countrymen hate the nazis for the crimes they committed, against other people, as well as the German people. Swastikas are outlawed, as is holocaust denial, for a reason, hopefully he doesnt play any more shows in Germany.

[VanTheKraut]

jannick wrote:

Don't apologize! blame the drugs.
Rammstein aren't sorry and they aren't holding back any nazi inspired lyrics.
This just makes him a pussy...

Thats wierd, because Rammstein have said that they're not nazis and even wrote Links 2,3,4 about how they're not nazis... weird huh?

[kingofdudes161]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

everyone seems to remember hiroshima but never nagasaki. nagasaki wasn't exactly just a pin-prick to japan.

[Judas_rising]

Univibe wrote:

Who gives a shit, his music is over rated anyway.

*applause*

[hardrocker628]

Univibe wrote:

Who gives a shit, his music is over rated anyway.

this doesn't even have to do with music dumbass it has to do with controversy

[chaoticfables]

Univibe wrote:

Who gives a shit, his music is over rated anyway.

wtf are you doing on UG, sir?

[Judas_rising]

hardrocker628 wrote:

Univibe wrote:

Who gives a shit, his music is over rated anyway.

this doesn't even have to do with music dumbass it has to do with controversy

*boos*

[oblongcockette]

Wow, haha. Oh Pete... yeah, he does some really stupid things sometimes, though I do reckon it was an honest mistake. You can hardly call him a Nazi sympathizer.

Unless, by 'Nazi sympathizer,' you mean 'bloke who sits around writing floofy poetry about mythical lands-- when he's not shooting up, wearing a dress, or being homoerotic onstage.'

At least pick on him for things he actually does, haha.

[Haunt3dAng3l]

AndrewAnthem wrote:

Phantasmasaurus wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

i know the germans need to get over it!!!

Black people also need to get over being brought as slaves to America and Brazil? Jews need to get over the holocaust? Romanians need to get over the revolution? The people of Iraq should just "get over" Saddam?

Here's one, why don't you Americans get over 911?

[McNuttynz]

zAg1619 wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

11 Million? That was just the Jews.. Everyone seems to forget how many Russians the Nazis killed. Soviet Union lost about 25 million people(a number that dwarfs 11 mil), only a third of which were combat related last I heard.

Not even that the Russians lost about 2 million to war casualties (if i remember correctly).

[Akiel]

AndrewAnthem wrote:

HAHA FUCK HIROSHIMA!!!! what we did was right..what germany did was wrong..germans need to get over it...

How is dropping a nuke on anybody the right thing to do?

[Basquiat]

The majority of the comments here are ridiculous. The guy made a mistake, yet most people read this and don't even bother getting their facts straight, even going as far as insulting the guy's drug use among other things.

Honestly, I've never even heard of who this is, but I'm not going to go off on how much of an idiot he is just by getting one side of a story which doesn't explain.. anything. Don't be so quick to judge, and learn that these kind of mistakes can happen.

[Bluesrocker5150]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

war and genocide are two completely different things.

...I hate to get off topic from the article here but...

I am a total pacifist, I appose violence in any form or fashion. having said that, I believe dropping the first two atom bombs in Japan was the right thing to do. I'm not going to go into great detail, but I will simply say that after all the destruction of a single A-bomb Japan still did not surrender. It wasn't until the second bomb was dropped that Japan agreed to the "unconditional surrender" that American's wanted. The Japanese at the time where completely relentless and culturally trained that all American's where evil. It was speculated that Japanese women and children would be participating in the war if America invaded Japanese soil. It was speculated that the war would continue for nearly another decade. As awful as it was, dropping the bomb saved years of war time and saved (sort of..) some lives. I'm not denying the horror radiation did to the survivors, or denying the large number of innocent deaths - but I know my history rather well and I believe it was the best thing to do given the circumstance.

*takes a breath*

well I hope you enjoyed my lecture. I encourage everyone to be open minded and tear down any walls between them. I hope this nasty business in the middle-east is resolved eventually, though it looks as if it never will.

[herzeleid1995]

I'm hearing a lot of people say Germany is too touchy about the WWII thing, and that they need to let it go. Well, we'll see that happen when the rest of the world outside the U.S., which really doesn't have the same experience of living in close proximity to countries that hate, let's it go, too.

No one is going to let Germany let the Holocaust go. And though we care significantly less, no one will let America forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Long live sacred Germany and all that.

[WhereArtEsteban]

Aren't the first line of the German National Anthem and the Nazi Anthem the same?

...i love Pete and all his intoxicated antics, I feel bad that the only time he gets press is when he does something besides making music.

[WhereArtEsteban]

Oh and John Lennon used to do Nazi salutes onstage in Hamburg for the purpose of ****ing with the audience... nobody seems to care about that.

[hendrix n page]

This reminds me of when siouxsie sioux got beaten up for wearing a swastika. People just don't learn...

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

Bluesrocker5150 wrote:
well I hope you enjoyed my lecture.

you spelled 'oppose' wrong.

[MotörHeadFan22]

Really? what jerk.

[Obie]

MattA7Xfan4Life wrote:

He wanted to integrate with a German crowd by singing the Nazi national anthem? He's either incredibly stupid or he was strung out on drugs again.

The Nazi national anthem was just a line taken from the original national anthem. i believe it was the first line. so, he picked up the first line of the national anthem not realizing that Germans very rarely sing the national anthem for fear of being called Nazis.

ha i didnt know that. that's stupid, to say the least.

Abacus11 wrote:
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

shut up. and lighten up. its not only hilarious, it's just plain stupid. that shit happened a long time ago and jews and germans alike need to get over it. the new generation of germans alive today had nothing to do with that shit. not that there are any complaining jews here but i'm sure they still exist. there are shitty things going on on a daily basis and the germans think theyre so special that they get to bitch about this stuff. i dont care about hiroshima and nagasaki because, not only did it happen outside of my lifetime, i am not responsible for that bullshit.

[RDSElite]

Basquiat wrote:

The majority of the comments here are ridiculous. The guy made a mistake, yet most people read this and don't even bother getting their facts straight, even going as far as insulting the guy's drug use among other things.

Honestly, I've never even heard of who this is, but I'm not going to go off on how much of an idiot he is just by getting one side of a story which doesn't explain.. anything. Don't be so quick to judge, and learn that these kind of mistakes can happen.

+1. Second news article I'm reading today, and like the other (the Bono one), this one is flooded with ridiculous, immature and moronic comments. Come on people.

[FRAQ@AQ]

I´m from Germany guys, and the problem is not that people here are too sensitive. He just broke a law. It`s ilegal in Germany to sing Nazi songs, show Nazi signs and so on. Nobody here is allowed to glorify that shit here anymore. Even if he`s just a drug addicted stupid mofo.
The whole generation that participated in that war is over 80-90 year or dead even my father, he is now in his 70´s, was just a little child in WW2. So believe me, nobody here in Germany is really conencted or too sensitive regarding that old shit anymore.
We only get remembered if a dumbass like Pete Doherty comes to visit us and tries to build up a good connection to his fans

[jannick]

niel9802 wrote:

jannick wrote:

Don't apologize! blame the drugs.
Rammstein aren't sorry and they aren't holding back any nazi inspired lyrics.
This just makes him a pussy...

care to give an example? and dont say 'links 234', because i'll know what youre getting at.

I'm not good at german but you just brought an example up yourself...

Just saying i he's a pussy. always has been.
his only talent was drugs, and now he can't even piss people of without feeling sorry...

[jannick]

VanTheKraut wrote:

jannick wrote:

Don't apologize! blame the drugs.
Rammstein aren't sorry and they aren't holding back any nazi inspired lyrics.
This just makes him a pussy...

Thats wierd, because Rammstein have said that they're not nazis and even wrote Links 2,3,4 about how they're not nazis... weird huh?

I said nazi inspired! ofcourse rammstein aren't nazi.
hold da kæft en klaphat du er...

[SOADriff]

whiteshadow15 wrote:

He wanted to integrate with a German crowd by singing the Nazi national anthem? He's either incredibly stupid or he was strung out on drugs again.

THIS.

[SkepsisMetal]

Metal_Militia15 wrote:

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

Funny you say that, that's exactly the reason WW2 got started, just with the Germans being touchy about WW1.

...oh s***!

and;

Haunt3dAng3l wrote:

AndrewAnthem wrote:

Phantasmasaurus wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

i know the germans need to get over it!!!

Black people also need to get over being brought as slaves to America and Brazil? Jews need to get over the holocaust? Romanians need to get over the revolution? The people of Iraq should just "get over" Saddam?

Here's one, why don't you Americans get over 911?

This

[ZeGuitarist]

Checked.

A small dose of flaming is appropriate here... but don't overdo it guys.

[-xCaMRocKx-]

In the words of Basil Fawlty - DON'T MENTION THE WAR.

[paul_hayward]

paul_hayward wrote:

Pete doherty is a dick end of. He probably didn't know it was hitler's favourite, but still you don't go out on stage and do that. Twat.

I know I'm commenting on my post but I gotta say this.

Why didn't he ask someone who was helping him backstage? Surely they would of said that this was a bad idea.

[alexmonty12]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

Haha, "What's up America?! Remember when you declared an illegal war in Iraq, invaded a virtually defenceless Vietnam and dropped that bomb on Hiroshima directly and indirectly contributed to millions of deaths?! YEAH ROCK OOOON"

[serb_detritus]

paul_hayward wrote:

paul_hayward wrote:

Pete doherty is a dick end of. He probably didn't know it was hitler's favourite, but still you don't go out on stage and do that. Twat.

I know I'm commenting on my post but I gotta say this.

Why didn't he ask someone who was helping him backstage? Surely they would of said that this was a bad idea.

meybe he did it on purpose. maybe he wanted to insult/amuse the crowd, like nofx does by offending one another coz theyre different nations and religions...

but im not sure hitler alone was responsible for what was done. you cant tell me that this huge country and a huge people was 'controlled' by this little maniac.

[friendly fire]

Here's something I don't understand right - Why does Pete Doherty have a spokeswoman? I'm sure he isn't really that busy, he isn't the prime minister or anything. In the other flame bait article Bono found time to speak for himself, and he is one of the most famous rock stars on the planet, probably pretty busy. Now thats what I call time manangement.

[friendly fire]

sorry *managagagaement thats the correct spelling right?

[nailsarecruel]

Haunt3dAng3l wrote:

AndrewAnthem wrote:

Phantasmasaurus wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

i know the germans need to get over it!!!

Black people also need to get over being brought as slaves to America and Brazil? Jews need to get over the holocaust? Romanians need to get over the revolution? The people of Iraq should just "get over" Saddam?

Here's one, why don't you Americans get over 911?

If the blacks, Jews, Romanians and Iraqis had the foresight to slap an effective slogan on commemorative plates, trucker hats and pennants, your argument would be valid.

[Jsteele1408]

Haunt3dAng3l wrote:

AndrewAnthem wrote:

Phantasmasaurus wrote:

Abacus11 wrote:

Jesus_Dean :
The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.
Hexagram :
haha, this is hilarious. I never knew how sensitive the WW2 thing was over there
The Nazis tortured and murdered 11 million people during the Holocaust. It was only 60 years ago, that,s just a few generations.

Anyone who thinks its "hilarious" that its still a touchy subject over there needs their head checked. Seriously.

are you serious?

i know the germans need to get over it!!!

Black people also need to get over being brought as slaves to America and Brazil? Jews need to get over the holocaust? Romanians need to get over the revolution? The people of Iraq should just "get over" Saddam?

Here's one, why don't you Americans get over 911?

Yes. All those people should get over it except the people who ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED these events. If you were never a slave or never were put in a concentration camp, you don't have any right to piss and moan about how terrible it was.

And I'm an American. I don't give a damn about 9/11. Things like that happen all the time in other parts of the world, it's just silly to make it out to be some kind of atrocity just because it happened to us.

[blink_fan]

Well I guess now we can call him NSDAPete

[korinaflyingv]

what an idiot lol

[ApeOfJustice]

I didn't even realise Pete Doherty played gigs.

[libertines4ever]

omg this article is so badly researched, it's unbelievable
why is it on the front page?

lots of people seem to read the headline only and think he deliberately searched for the "NaziAnthem" as the author of this article calls it.

he just wanted to sing the german national anthem
but only the third verse is used today due to the fact that the NSDAP used the first and second verse

it was only a Mistake by him. he started at the first verse which isn't used today

[metalcore123]

"Doherty has developed an interest in the Church of Scientology, after being introduced to the religion by an ex-girlfriend." from wikipedia.

fail.

[scawti]

He probably thought it would get a laugh... And those saying Germany should "get over it"! It wasn't done to them it's what they did and they're making sure it doesn't happen again. I have a lot of respect for a country that really takes ownership for one of the horrific events in recent history.

Yes. All those people should get over it except the people who ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED these events. If you were never a slave or never were put in a concentration camp, you don't have any right to piss and moan about how terrible it was.

Unless you actually have compasion for human life?

[ESPVpr104]

punXander wrote:

bruttaalll.... it's understandable no Germans want to have this song sang... it's a negative stigma on them... how would you like to be reminded that you (assuming USA) have killed millions of people and created many bad effects at Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb... it's probably not the most flattering way of saying "Hi"

+10...just what i was thinking

[Abacus11]

shut up. and lighten up. its not only hilarious, it's just plain stupid. that shit happened a long time ago and jews and germans alike need to get over it. the new generation of germans alive today had nothing to do with that shit. not that there are any complaining jews here but i'm sure they still exist. there are shitty things going on on a daily basis and the germans think theyre so special that they get to bitch about this stuff. i dont care about hiroshima and nagasaki because, not only did it happen outside of my lifetime, i am not responsible for that bullshit.

Wow. So you think that because something didn't happen in "your lifetime" that it doesn't matter? A little ignorant and egotistical? Grow up. Do you really think that murdering millions of people is forgivable after a few years have passed? You're obviously a kid who doesn't know sh*t about sh*t.

You don't care about the horrible things people have done to each other in our history unless they've happened "recently"? If everyone thought like you we'd all be dead. That's just plain stupid on a frightening level.

Understand the past or be doomed to repeat it.

[Buffilax]

Pete just ****ed up, I'm sure it was an honest mistake and he meant no harm. We've all ****ed up at some point in our lives too; so maybe some of you should drop the whole "holier than thou" attitude

[PaulxPanic]

RockInPeaceDime wrote:

Oden The Great wrote:

Jesus_Dean wrote:

The germans ar extremely touchy about anything having to do with WW2. They should just get over it.

no they shouldnt be they were repressed by hitler and have every right to be pissed because he was steryotyping gremans to be nazis

eh the German public was not innocent in what happened during WW2 at all. Granted, it was a very tough time, but to pretend they were just victims of a madman isn't the full truth.

Actually many were i'm half german and my grand parents were part of the white rose so i think i know what i'm talking about

[Captain Sadler]

pistols wrote:

also, captain sadler; right wing usually refers to nationalist and racialist political beliefs.

Actually, seeing as "reich" means way, and the Hitler's was the "Third Reich" I'd say it was more accurate to describe the Nazis as neither right nor left, and I'm sure modern adherents to either of the aforementioned views would be much more comfortable with that definition.

[Captain Sadler]

*I meant: "...and *that* Hitler's..." sorry for the typo...*

[time_for_food]

Mods, why is flaming allowed here?
The guy made an honest mistake, and you let people go on about his drug addictions and whatnot, saying he's racist when he clearly isnt.
What a stupid way to moderate a forum.

[time_for_food]

Mods, why is flaming allowed?
The guy made an honest mistake, and you let people go on about his drug addiction, and call him a racist?
What a stupid way to moderate a forum.

[time_for_food]

ahhh didnt mean to do it twice, my apologies

[vagelier]

AndrewAnthem wrote:
HAHA FUCK HIROSHIMA!!!! what we did was right..what germany did was wrong..germans need to get over it...

do you know what the hell you are saying. trust me, my friend, its never right to kill that amount of people for political objectives - or probably any reason but to save more then youre killing. stop the nationalism and open your eyes: its not like were in a westeren movie - there usually is no "good" guy.

[Nirvanarien]

time_for_food wrote:

Mods, why is flaming allowed?
The guy made an honest mistake, and you let people go on about his drug addiction, and call him a racist?
What a stupid way to moderate a forum.

This man made a pretty stupid mistake, i mean even a 12 year old could know that this was a dumb thing to do. Him being on drugs is a possible explanation for this mistake so yes people talk about it. Haven't seen any comments calling him racist though. And this is the way media works, if John Doe would have done this in a small venue nobody would care. If a famous person does it he's gona get flamed.

[TheAcaciaStrain]

haha i think this made my day

[time_for_food]

Nirvanarien wrote:
This man made a pretty stupid mistake, i mean even a 12 year old could know that this was a dumb thing to do. Him being on drugs is a possible explanation for this mistake so yes people talk about it. Haven't seen any comments calling him racist though. And this is the way media works, if John Doe would have done this in a small venue nobody would care. If a famous person does it he's gona get flamed.

You obviously haven't seen the comments about the first line of the german national anthem being used by Hitler to rally the nazis. I didn't know this before reading it here, and i'd bet most people didn't. Its a simple mistake to make.

[Haunt3dAng3l]

Yes. All those people should get over it except the people who ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED these events. If you were never a slave or never were put in a concentration camp, you don't have any right to piss and moan about how terrible it was.

And I'm an American. I don't give a damn about 9/11. Things like that happen all the time in other parts of the world, it's just silly to make it out to be some kind of atrocity just because it happened to us.

What you're saying is that people should say "If it didn't happen to me, I shouldn't care." I think lots of people would find your comment not only offensive, but a rather selfish point of view. The fact that almost everyone only cares about what happens to themselves, rather than their ancestors, country and world as a whole is one of the biggest reasons why we have all these problems today.