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Phil Anselmo Says There Can Be No Pantera Without Dimebag

artist: pantera date: 09/10/2010 category: general music news
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Phil Anselmo Says There Can Be No Pantera Without Dimebag

Former Pantera and current Down singer Philip Anselmo tells Billboard.com that his collaboration with fellow surviving Pantera members Vinnie Paul Abbott (drums) and Rex Brown (bass), along with the estate of the late guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, to work together on Pantera's "Cowboys From Hell" reissue is unlikely to lead to any new original music from the former bandmates.

"I would not want to tarnish the Pantera name," Anselmo says, according to Billboard.com. "Vinnie himself said a long time ago that if you take any one of us out of the equation and it's just not Pantera anymore, so I guess I'm just gonna stick to that. And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross, and that's an entire subject on its own, before we could even consider making music together."

Regarding the upcoming 20th-anniversary reissue of "Cowboys From Hell" — which is coming September 14 in a three-disc deluxe edition that includes one unreleased song, "The Will To Survive" — Anselmo tells Billboard.com, "It had definitely been a long while since I sat down and listened to 'Cowboys From Hell' from front to back. Basically it was trickier where I thought things might be simplified. We would build these massive intros into songs, and the solo sections, the way they were written was just very, very, very clever. And I can see very clearly how we upped the production. It's been quite an experience."

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POSTED: 09/10/2010 - 04:02 am
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Lapidus wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:35 am / quote |
Seems so obvious to me...

Is the guy sober and clean now? I mean, I couldn't find a video of him on youtube where he wasn't drunk or high.
F*cking amazing singer though.
     
SoulSyphon wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:35 am / quote |
Damn, no love for Pantera??? I'm guessing it has more to do with the time xD. Looking forward the hear the unreleased eargasm that is Dimebag's guitar work.
     
Jesus_Dean wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:37 am / quote |
Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.
     
Eirien wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:17 am / quote |
Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.
     
Shreddaboi12 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:37 am / quote |
Jesus_Dean wrote:

Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.


Very true, and personally I think Pantera would be one of those who would lose the magic, not that it has anything to do with the other 3, they are all amazing musicians, but as Phil said, it's just not the same without Dime, and you can't replace him, he is God. RIP
     
strung_out1 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:49 am / quote |
If only Axl Rose was as clever as the remaining Pantera members
     
Anjohl wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:12 am / quote |
Too bad. Hellyeah is a farce. I think Phil has a good thing going with Down however.
     
jimmyled wrote on 09/10/2010 - 08:56 am / quote |
He's right. I respect his decision and honour it.

/my respect for Phil in general just rose. He prefers keeping Dime's name untarnished than making more money.
     
not_dead_enough wrote on 09/10/2010 - 08:57 am / quote |
It's funny... while Dimebag was alive Phil's attitude was usually that Pantera couldn't survive without 'himself'! Then when Dimebag died he's all like "oh I love him, he was my bro" live he was never really a dick to them all.
     
Eirien wrote on 09/10/2010 - 09:29 am / quote |
not_dead_enough wrote:

It's funny... while Dimebag was alive Phil's attitude was usually that Pantera couldn't survive without 'himself'! Then when Dimebag died he's all like "oh I love him, he was my bro" live he was never really a dick to them all.


So you think Phil would have more integrity to stubbornly go on hating rather than letting Dime's death have an impact on him and admitting he's been a dick?
     
SuicidalFreak wrote on 09/10/2010 - 10:15 am / quote |
Eirien wrote:

It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime.

I agree. And Phil is right, there can be no Pantera without him.
     
FearOfTheDuck wrote on 09/10/2010 - 10:50 am / quote |
If Dime didn't die, no doubt that Pantera would've reformed by now.
     
dtj88 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:15 am / quote |
Glad to hear Phil say this. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Vinnie and Phil would still have alot of work to do to make a reunion possible- even if they were open to getting a new guitarist.
     
N64 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:20 am / quote |
They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win
     
guitgrinder wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:40 am / quote |
Zakk cant touch Dimes shit. Wouldn't work. Pantera's power came from the Barbarosa Roja! Without the Red Beard, there is no Pantera.
     
josh999x wrote on 09/10/2010 - 12:41 pm / quote |
It would be nice to see them do a new project together but i agree reforming pantera wouldn't work. Especially due to the fact he was the only guitarist but also the fact of how unique his playing style was.
     
tume wrote on 09/10/2010 - 12:48 pm / quote |
N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


No Pantera without Dime, Zakk is not even close as good as Dime.
     
Lethal Dosage wrote on 09/10/2010 - 12:48 pm / quote |
No one can touch dime really in pantera look at a song like walk thats what like 2 or 3 notes and its an iconic metal song. Dime was always good like that able to turn something extremely simple into a great metal riff.
     
metalgirl0 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 12:53 pm / quote |
They could start a band with another guitarist and not call it Pantera
     
adj209 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 12:59 pm / quote |
Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.
     
ParasiticTwins wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:02 pm / quote |
Why does it need to be Pantera anyway? The name doesn't make the music any better... good call on leaving the name well alone in my opinion.
     
Nyhm wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:03 pm / quote |
damn straight
     
xHellbound wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:08 pm / quote |
Anselmo & Iommi, do it!
     
Abom wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:29 pm / quote |
Eirien wrote:

not_dead_enough wrote:

It's funny... while Dimebag was alive Phil's attitude was usually that Pantera couldn't survive without 'himself'! Then when Dimebag died he's all like "oh I love him, he was my bro" live he was never really a dick to them all.

So you think Phil would have more integrity to stubbornly go on hating rather than letting Dime's death have an impact on him and admitting he's been a dick?


+1, well put
     
DDJJ wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:32 pm / quote |
Zakk in for Dime? Hell no. All he's really got are those low pitch harmonics. Dime was too ****ing unique man. What a damn shame. I agree that they would have reunited already if he were still here. I really think it took all of them together to make it, I never liked DamagePlan or HEllyeah
     
Zeppelin Addict wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:42 pm / quote |
Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.


exactly what i was thinking, love all of their stuff but CFH takes it all
     
K!!LsWiTcH wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:42 pm / quote |
Jesus_Dean wrote:

Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.


in all fairness syd barrett didnt die while pink floyd was playing
     
rokkit wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:43 pm / quote |
i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour
     
dopelope wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:49 pm / quote |
Just change the name and get a new axeman! RIP DIME
\m/
     
oxymoronicman wrote on 09/10/2010 - 01:50 pm / quote |
strung_out1 wrote:

If only Axl Rose was as clever as the remaining Pantera members


+1
     
Kivarenn82 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:03 pm / quote |
Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.


Underrated?! I can remember a time when the TAPE CASSETTE was the only thing you saw in any walkman in my highschool. Girls and guys alike.
     
qrEE wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:04 pm / quote |
If this was news, I'd like it, but come on, without Dime, there IS no Pantera! That's like a Death reunion without Chuck!
     
goddamncanadian wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:10 pm / quote |
"Spanish Panther"
     
Galvatron wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:16 pm / quote |
xHellbound wrote:

Anselmo & Iommi, do it!


They got a tune together. Check youtube.
     
SmittyMan90 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:20 pm / quote |
Cant wait for this release! I hope someday that Vinnie and Phil will one day get along, but i can understand Vin's position.
     
SmittyMan90 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:20 pm / quote |
qrEE wrote:

If this was news, I'd like it, but come on, without Dime, there IS no Pantera! That's like a Death reunion without Chuck!

I agree!!
     
Revolution_87 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:24 pm / quote |
Hope Vinnie And Phil can finally resolve their issues cause it'd be good hearing them together again i.e a track for HellYeah ft Phil or something like that.

As for Pantera a "Tribute to Dime" Show would be pretty cool, People he's been friends with and played with all getting together to Jam out some Pantera/Damageplan/RMR and other stuff. Thatd be Awesome!!!!
     
Revolution_87 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:29 pm / quote |
Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.


Dude! The whole of pantera are rednecks, they were totally proud to be, And as for Phil being racist I've never heard him say anything remotley racist, In fact some of Pantera's lyrics are very anti racist. Listen to 5 minutes alone.
     
Tabassco wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:37 pm / quote |
guitarbud wrote:

He'll never NOT be a douchebag. He may have been a good singer, but F**k him!


You are really stupid. Phil just recognises the fact that Pantera was Pantera because of Dimebag and the other three. He doesn't want to squeeze out some extra dollars or do a reunion. He just gets it.
     
PanteraRebel wrote on 09/10/2010 - 02:56 pm / quote |
Yeah, Phil you are totally right man. Keep making albums with Down \m/
     
Gary.Blizzard wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Darrell is too vital of a part in Pantera to even have them start again without him. Someone mentions Pantera, and Darrell usually get's thought of. No one could replace him, and I doubt his brother would even consider replacing Darrel's spot in the band. Vinnie is doing beautifully in Hellyeah, and Phil's got his own shit as well. If Rex, Vinnie and Phil actually want to do something together, please don't do it under the name Pantera. RIP Dime
     
severed-metal wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:05 pm / quote |
Well duh.
     
crazysam23_Atax wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:10 pm / quote |
I agree with Anselmo.
     
adj209 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:13 pm / quote |
Revolution_87 wrote:

Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.

Dude! The whole of pantera are rednecks, they were totally proud to be, And as for Phil being racist I've never heard him say anything remotley racist, In fact some of Pantera's lyrics are very anti racist. Listen to 5 minutes alone.

I thought so too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q67QHvrozw
     
Chronologo wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:19 pm / quote |
does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit
     
kill it wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:28 pm / quote |
i think you need to listen to far beyond driven again.
     
RubberSoul54321 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:29 pm / quote |
N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


Totally different styles - Zakk's all about the picking, Dime was more legato and whammy bar. I do like the idea af a tribute show tho with guitarists who were fans.
     
Gallagher666 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:32 pm / quote |
Well, F**king obviously. I for one dont want to see Pantera without Dimebag. One of the most influential guitarist to the twentieth century, can not be replaced easily. Bitch and moan all you want.... Phil is this...Phil is that... End of the Day Phil was the singer in one of the grestest bands many of us have had the pleasure to see. Just listen to the sh1t that kerrang, scuzz or any "metal" magazine, radio or tv channel beams into your home, work or car or whatever, and you'll realise the 5 albums of brilliance Pantera gave you. Shut up and shove on Stronger Than All!
     
rushpython wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:50 pm / quote |
it would be like having black label society without Zakk Wylde.
     
False_God wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:50 pm / quote |
Phil, we have been saying that since they day dime passed away. Its wouldnt be Pantera without any of them.
P.s the new remix of Cowboys from Hell sucks ass.
     
Nameless742 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:50 pm / quote |
hmm, Well Pantera's albums are perfect as they are, I'm definately in agreement with reformed bands choosing a new name.
Black Sabbath, Guns and Roses etc.
     
IronMan34 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:55 pm / quote |
qrEE wrote:

If this was news, I'd like it, but come on, without Dime, there IS no Pantera! That's like a Death reunion without Chuck!



very true
     
Randomrings wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:57 pm / quote |
I grew up on that album, I wish dimebag was still around... don't we all

but hey, new unreleased song off that album? interest instantly sparked
     
Sliptallica_333 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 03:58 pm / quote |
i never got to see pantera, it sucks
     
SilverSpurs616 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:02 pm / quote |
He wasn't that good.
     
luke-shaw wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:12 pm / quote |
oxymoronicman wrote:

strung_out1 wrote:

If only Axl Rose was as clever as the remaining Pantera members

+1


Agreed, Axle doesn't understand that he isnt "Guns n Roses" it was the collaberated effort of all 5 members and that,

1. Velvet revolver are more guns n roses that the current lineup ever could be

and

2. He is a dick

     
Alpha_Wolf wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:26 pm / quote |
DUR. I know this and I don't even like Pantera.

Btw: RIP DIME
     
white'CFH'zombe wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:31 pm / quote |
i think they should get together without a guitarist and play dime playing with the life size image in stage for a reunion tour. . . .
     
ReasonableRam wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:31 pm / quote |
Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.


I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera.
I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming.

Long live Pantera's memory.
     
DethbyChocolate wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:33 pm / quote |
Id like to see Phil, Vinnie, and Rex do something together, but NOT as pantera, or anything related to Pantera. There can be no Pantera without Dime
     
metalgod96 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:35 pm / quote |
N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


I think maybe they could do a tour w/ Zakk but no new albums. As long as Zakk plays Dimes's stuff note for note and doesn't shit p.h.'s into every other bar.
     
Metallidethium wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:41 pm / quote |
N64 :
They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


EW!

I think its good that they won't tarnish Dimebag's name because he was the heart and soul of the band. Besides, Down is a decent band anyway.
     
Fausch wrote on 09/10/2010 - 04:54 pm / quote |
Jesus_Dean wrote:

Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.


But AC/DC was a million times better with Bon.
     
Gh. wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:09 pm / quote |
not_dead_enough wrote:

It's funny... while Dimebag was alive Phil's attitude was usually that Pantera couldn't survive without 'himself'! Then when Dimebag died he's all like "oh I love him, he was my bro" live he was never really a dick to them all.


A sudden death changes everything. I had a friend that died in a car crash. I wasn't a dick or anything to him(as Anselmo was). After he gone I just felt that I could've been a better friend to him. That 'little' thought had a huge impact on me.
     
CranberryJuice wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:15 pm / quote |
adj209 wrote:

Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.


His opinion is the same as yours: he has major respect for Dimebag. Besides, as said before they were all rednecks.
     
johnstoner666 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:17 pm / quote |
SilverSpurs616 wrote:

He wasn't that good.


Dude im no big metal-head either but saying he aint good...well your just wrong buddy. When He was 16 or 17 he still would kill you in a guitar duel. check this out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBS44SGwF0

just simply magic. this looks like he's performing at a talent show in highschool or something yet the sheer presence he puts off! AHHHH CREAMING IN MY PANTS I CANT STOP!
     
SilverSpurs616 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:28 pm / quote |
johnstoner666 wrote:

SilverSpurs616 wrote:

He wasn't that good.


Dude im no big metal-head either but saying he aint good...well your just wrong buddy. When He was 16 or 17 he still would kill you in a guitar duel. check this out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBS44SGwF0

just simply magic. this looks like he's performing at a talent show in highschool or something yet the sheer presence he puts off! AHHHH CREAMING IN MY PANTS I CANT STOP!


Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he ISN'T good. I honestly believe however that people wouldn't give him so much hype if he wasn't passed on.
     
espChris93 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:29 pm / quote |
not_dead_enough wrote:

It's funny... while Dimebag was alive Phil's attitude was usually that Pantera couldn't survive without 'himself'! Then when Dimebag died he's all like "oh I love him, he was my bro" live he was never really a dick to them all.


people grow people learn and people mature. Phil cant erase his actions but he can make amends. Experiencing something like a close friend dieing especially in circumstances that are so public, unexpected, and violent as dimes death was would make something wake up and realize whats going on in someones life.
     
espChris93 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:30 pm / quote |
rokkit wrote:

i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour


definitly not.. those are the three worst and most generic guitarists that someone could choose anyway. I say its a good move not making any new music under the Pantera name.
     
espChris93 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:39 pm / quote |
SilverSpurs616 wrote:

johnstoner666 wrote:

SilverSpurs616 wrote:

He wasn't that good.


Dude im no big metal-head either but saying he aint good...well your just wrong buddy. When He was 16 or 17 he still would kill you in a guitar duel. check this out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBS44SGwF0

just simply magic. this looks like he's performing at a talent show in highschool or something yet the sheer presence he puts off! AHHHH CREAMING IN MY PANTS I CANT STOP!


Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he ISN'T good. I honestly believe however that people wouldn't give him so much hype if he wasn't passed on.


I get where your coming from but Dime is one of those well known guitar players who is absurdly overatted BUT also extremely underatted. Like Randy Rhoads, Jimi Hendrix, Alexi Laiho etc there are guitarists that people say are the end all be all of guitar player without even having a wide understanding of guitar player or even music itself. Dime wasnt what I would consider a technical guitar player, he wasnt fast(at least not as fast as Batio, Lane etc) but he wrote and played good music. He created a lot of unique playing tricks that people copy today and he wrote some great songs. Wether or not you like his music has no bearing on wether or not he's "good" It doesnt matter if he's dead or not it matters that he diserves respect for being a fun loving standup guy who played some entertaining music.
     
rickyj wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:40 pm / quote |
goddamncanadian wrote:

"Spanish Panther"


no, pantera = panther, not spanish panther
     
theczar wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:40 pm / quote |
Revolution_87 wrote:

Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.

Dude! The whole of pantera are rednecks, they were totally proud to be, And as for Phil being racist I've never heard him say anything remotley racist, In fact some of Pantera's lyrics are very anti racist. Listen to 5 minutes alone.

Also No Good/Attack the Radical has ANTI-racist lyrics.
     
slaveskinJACKET wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:43 pm / quote |
Revolution_87 wrote:

Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.

Dude! The whole of pantera are rednecks, they were totally proud to be, And as for Phil being racist I've never heard him say anything remotley racist, In fact some of Pantera's lyrics are very anti racist. Listen to 5 minutes alone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQk3DC3gL0

Not racist to me. Sounds like Anti-racism. One of the best race related rants I've ever heard.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:49 pm / quote |
adj209 wrote:

Phil is a redneck and a racist. I could not care less for his opinion.

But i have major respect for Dimebag.


They were/are all rednecks rofl...don't kid yourself. Dime had a Union Jack guitar, they had Union Jack flags at their concerts every night. They were from Texas and Louisiana...of course they were all rednecks.

Phil had his fair share of racist rants when he was drunk off his ass. I'm sure he has some racist ideas. That's largely a product of growing up in the deep south (not that that excuses it).
SilverSpurs616 wrote:

johnstoner666 wrote:

SilverSpurs616 wrote:

He wasn't that good.


Dude im no big metal-head either but saying he aint good...well your just wrong buddy. When He was 16 or 17 he still would kill you in a guitar duel. check this out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBS44SGwF0

just simply magic. this looks like he's performing at a talent show in highschool or something yet the sheer presence he puts off! AHHHH CREAMING IN MY PANTS I CANT STOP!

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he ISN'T good. I honestly believe however that people wouldn't give him so much hype if he wasn't passed on.


You could say that about a number of guitarists/musicians. What's the point?
     
metalfan986 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:51 pm / quote |
espChris93 wrote:

SilverSpurs616 wrote:

johnstoner666 wrote:

SilverSpurs616 wrote:

He wasn't that good.


Dude im no big metal-head either but saying he aint good...well your just wrong buddy. When He was 16 or 17 he still would kill you in a guitar duel. check this out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBS44SGwF0

just simply magic. this looks like he's performing at a talent show in highschool or something yet the sheer presence he puts off! AHHHH CREAMING IN MY PANTS I CANT STOP!


Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he ISN'T good. I honestly believe however that people wouldn't give him so much hype if he wasn't passed on.

I get where your coming from but Dime is one of those well known guitar players who is absurdly overatted BUT also extremely underatted. Like Randy Rhoads, Jimi Hendrix, Alexi Laiho etc there are guitarists that people say are the end all be all of guitar player without even having a wide understanding of guitar player or even music itself. Dime wasnt what I would consider a technical guitar player, he wasnt fast(at least not as fast as Batio, Lane etc) but he wrote and played good music. He created a lot of unique playing tricks that people copy today and he wrote some great songs. Wether or not you like his music has no bearing on wether or not he's "good" It doesnt matter if he's dead or not it matters that he diserves respect for being a fun loving standup guy who played some entertaining music.

+1, probably the only comment I've heard about Dime that I completely agree with
     
\m/-_-\m/ wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:52 pm / quote |
obviously there couldn't be.
pantera was built off of dime's unique style, and any other guitarist would just make pantera sound completely different.
     
Way Cool JR. wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:54 pm / quote |
ReasonableRam wrote:

Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.

I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera.
I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming.

Long live Pantera's memory.
Chronologo wrote:

does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit


At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:57 pm / quote |
The Dime love is well-warranted, but the Pantera we all know/love most was not "built on Dime." That's very much a slap in the face of the other members, especially Phil. It's not exactly a coincidence that as soon as Phil stepped on stage with them, they became THE Pantera.

Pantera wouldn't have made it out of the hair metal era without Phil joining. Of course, Dime and Vinnie would have still been successful in the industry, but the musical influences Phil brought to the band and really hammered into the song writing aren't appreciated often enough. Never mind the sheer ridiculousness of his vocals in the early days that opened tons of doors for Pantera's writing.
     
Enix165 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 05:58 pm / quote |
I agree with him, Pantera's one of my favorite, if not my favorite, band, and without Dime it just wouldn't be the same, Dime and Vinnie had chemistry between them I don't think I've ever seen before, and they worked together perfect. People say they should get Zakk Wylde, but...I don't see how they remotely resemble each other bar being bearded metalheads who like pinch harmonics(even then, Wylde uses them...too much IMO. XD Dime used a lot, but...Wylde's...EVERYTHING'S PINCH HARMONICS WITH HIM.), Dime's groove-metal-blues style doesn't sound like Zakk's nu-metalish style at all IMO.
     
Slaytan666 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:00 pm / quote |
All this talk of Pantera's got me blasting Far Beyond Driven and drinking black tooth grins. R.I.P. Dimebag!!
     
loganpwns wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:01 pm / quote |
So much respect for him.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:01 pm / quote |
Way Cool JR. wrote:

ReasonableRam wrote:

Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.

I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera.
I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming.

Long live Pantera's memory.Chronologo wrote:

does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit

At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice.


Phil didn't ruin a thing. The guy put ****ing spinal disc surgery on hold just so Pantera wouldn't have to stop touring/making music. He went out on stage every night with that pain (the injuries he had and the damages he had to his back are beyond painful) and put on a show. There's a reason he got hooked on painkillers -- some of it was his stupidity, some of it was him sacrificing for Pantera.
     
SoothSayer94 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:05 pm / quote |
hes clean now but hell hes the dimebag of singing
     
MyUserName777 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:08 pm / quote |
Dimebag was a legend and no one can fill his shoes so Pantera should never reform. That said, I think Zakk Wylde could do Dime justice
     
maggothellspawn wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:11 pm / quote |
N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


That would be just freakin amazing... Dime's Shoes are hard to fill though even for a metal prodigy like wild. Excellent idea though >M<
     
Dakkstar wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:21 pm / quote |
Phil is over rated.. once upon a time he had an amazing voice. Cowboys from Hell is proof, but those days are long gone.

Phil should go away, he doesn't release anything worth listening to.

P.S. Zakk Wylde couldn't pull of Dime's stuff, as Zakk sucks in comparison. There's many other guitarists that would be a better choice than Wylde, plus could you imagine all the pinch harmonics that he'd add making the songs awkward and senseless.
     
rhcpjhlz wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:24 pm / quote |
dtj88 wrote:

Glad to hear Phil say this. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Vinnie and Phil would still have alot of work to do to make a reunion possible- even if they were open to getting a new guitarist.


What do you mean reading between the lines. It says "And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross."
     
Kelicon wrote on 09/10/2010 - 06:53 pm / quote |
xHellbound wrote:

Anselmo & Iommi, do it!


Hells Yeah! a HUGE 2nd to that
     
everjump wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:08 pm / quote |
Captain obvious:|
     
queenslander47 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:19 pm / quote |
Yeah, Pantera without Dimebag would be like Dream Theater without Mike Portn... wait, what?
     
TomusAM wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:37 pm / quote |
I agree.
     
hanselrocks1 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:38 pm / quote |
thank you mr anselmo! dont be a douche like all those other bands! you could use the same members new guitarist under a new name though?
     
JimJam1304 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:43 pm / quote |
They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


NO WAY IN HELL. The difference between the two is that Dimebag stayed innovative and creative, while Wylde has been riding his pinch harmonic his entire career. I would be INCREDIBLY saddened if they reform at all without Dime, and especially so (at this point I would angry as well) if Wylde was the replacement. Zakk can't touch Dime. Honestly, no one should try to replace Dime; it is an impossible task. If the other three get together with someone else, do the fans a favor and regard it as a different band, like it inevitably will be.
     
nuclearrootbeer wrote on 09/10/2010 - 07:53 pm / quote |
my guitar teacher says he could see them becoming full-blown pantera again without dimebag, buti guess that will never happen...oh well
a "reunion" tour with zakk wylde would be appreciated tho i luvs pantera
     
Xeno_Christ wrote on 09/10/2010 - 08:06 pm / quote |
rokkit wrote:

i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour


hell yeah dude, that'd be ****in sick!!!
     
Gary.Blizzard wrote on 09/10/2010 - 08:35 pm / quote |
rokkit wrote:

i think they should get a bunch of guitarists who are massive fans of pantera or good friends of dime, such as kerry king, zakk wylde, rob flynn ect and do a dimebag tribute tour


Didn't they already have a show somewhere like that? I thought I read about it a while back, Zakk was there, and Rita and the whole lot. I've also heard of other shows where a bunch of bands got together to play Pantera songs...
     
death punch wrote on 09/10/2010 - 09:08 pm / quote |
if dime didnt die i think pantera would have got back together because dime just seems that he would want to have phil back and they would have hopefully mad amends with each other.
     
Way Cool JR. wrote on 09/10/2010 - 09:49 pm / quote |
RockInPeaceDime wrote:

Way Cool JR. wrote:

ReasonableRam wrote:

Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.

I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera.
I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming.

Long live Pantera's memory.Chronologo wrote:

does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit

At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice.

Phil didn't ruin a thing. The guy put ****ing spinal disc surgery on hold just so Pantera wouldn't have to stop touring/making music. He went out on stage every night with that pain (the injuries he had and the damages he had to his back are beyond painful) and put on a show. There's a reason he got hooked on painkillers -- some of it was his stupidity, some of it was him sacrificing for Pantera.


since I have bad disks in my back from breaking my back by getting hit by a car at 60mph I can say it is more irritating than painful. So it really isn't that bad. If you want to here about real pain try having acid poured into your lungs to melt all the tissue to cover a bunch of small holes and rotated like a rotisserie chicken while you are fully awake. But yeah I still stand by what I said
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/10/2010 - 10:30 pm / quote |
Dakkstar wrote:

Phil is over rated.. once upon a time he had an amazing voice. Cowboys from Hell is proof, but those days are long gone.

Phil should go away, he doesn't release anything worth listening to.

P.S. Zakk Wylde couldn't pull of Dime's stuff, as Zakk sucks in comparison. There's many other guitarists that would be a better choice than Wylde, plus could you imagine all the pinch harmonics that he'd add making the songs awkward and senseless.


err Phil is still a very good vocalist. His voice is very different, for obvious reasons (he's 20 years older than he was on CFH, and those 20 years consisted of constant alcohol use). Down has released solid albums, so I don't know what you're on about.

Anybody who says Zakk Wylde sucks (as a guitarist or musician) is quite obviously ignorant of Book of Shadows, Pride & Glory, The Blessed Hellride, etc. His writing with Ozzy got one dimensional (which probably isn't entirely his fault), sure, but there's a hell of a lot more to his music than just Ozzy material.
     
DLXJRVO wrote on 09/10/2010 - 10:32 pm / quote |
Jesus_Dean wrote:

Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.


Dude you just can't replace dime...it just wouldn't be right.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/10/2010 - 10:32 pm / quote |
Way Cool JR. wrote:

RockInPeaceDime wrote:

Way Cool JR. wrote:

ReasonableRam wrote:

Eirien wrote:

Good for everyone! It would be a disaster if Pantera reformed without Dime. CFH is such an underrated album, it's Pantera's finest hour.

I personally think CFH and the Power Metal album of the 80's were the two best albums from Pantera.
I didn't like Pantera after they went wicked hardcore because I ****ing hate screaming like no other. Show off some talent and actually sing audible words please. At least Phil proved he could sing like a maniac before they went to almost exclusive screaming.

Long live Pantera's memory.Chronologo wrote:

does he sing anymore?? or continues to shout like a monkey, I remember "Power Metal", that was a good album with Phil actually singing, Vulgar Display of Power was the last good Pantera album beyond that point they just pulled out some really crappy albums like that live one shit

At least there are a couple people left that knows when Pantera really kicked ass. They were bad ass in the 80's and then it's like they fell apart in the 90's. Phil could really sing man he sometimes sounded like Rob from Judas Priest and Dime I think wrote his best stuff back then to. 80's Pantera the only Pantera for me. And Phil just needs to stick with Down he done ruined Pantera way before Dime died. Whey try and ruin it twice.

Phil didn't ruin a thing. The guy put ****ing spinal disc surgery on hold just so Pantera wouldn't have to stop touring/making music. He went out on stage every night with that pain (the injuries he had and the damages he had to his back are beyond painful) and put on a show. There's a reason he got hooked on painkillers -- some of it was his stupidity, some of it was him sacrificing for Pantera.

since I have bad disks in my back from breaking my back by getting hit by a car at 60mph I can say it is more irritating than painful. So it really isn't that bad. If you want to here about real pain try having acid poured into your lungs to melt all the tissue to cover a bunch of small holes and rotated like a rotisserie chicken while you are fully awake. But yeah I still stand by what I said


How often do you go out on stage in front of thousands of people and try to headbang and stomp around for 2 hours straight? Did you have any surgery done? And of course medical issues are taken on a case-by-case basis -- if the guy said he was in pain (and many people around him said he was in pain), I have no reason to believe differently. The point of the matter is that he put off surgery to keep Pantera from having to stop touring.
     
Levi79 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:06 pm / quote |
I agree that they couldn't write Pantera music ever again. But does anyone else think it would be amazing if Zakk Wylde played guitar and did a memorial tour 2014 or something? Since Dime and Zakk were good friends and all.
     
dtj88 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:17 pm / quote |
rhcpjhlz wrote:

dtj88 wrote:

Glad to hear Phil say this. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Vinnie and Phil would still have alot of work to do to make a reunion possible- even if they were open to getting a new guitarist.

What do you mean reading between the lines. It says "And as far as Vinnie and I go, there's a big bridge that both of us would have to cross."


Fair enough...that's probably the most overlooked part of any Pantera reunion is getting Vinnie and Phil to get along.
     
mnewland1 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:45 pm / quote |
Dime is irreplaceable. Anything new would make absolutely no sense at all. Their music had DIMEBAG written all over it. Unlike Metallica when they lost cliff, or even Led Zep when they lost John, those musicians were great, but weren't ABSOLUTELY VITAL to the bands success. the guitar in this band is something that can and never will be possible to be replaced. Glad to see that Phil acknowledges that.
     
mnewland1 wrote on 09/10/2010 - 11:50 pm / quote |
To clarify on my opinion,
Dime and Phil were equally important to Pantera.
Vinnie was important but replaceable.
Rex, as much as I respect him, was totally replaceable.
Shit rolls down hill. Pantera cannot ever happen again. I know folks, it sucks for me too.
     
!Mike! wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:17 am / quote |
First mike leaves DT, now the remaining members of Pantera are actually working together. This week is full of crazy ****ing surprises.
     
sewoo55 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:31 am / quote |
N64 :
They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.


zakk wylde's constant and random pinch harmonics are gonna be really annoying..... at least dimebag knew when to do a pinch harmonic
     
blindfatkid23 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:45 am / quote |
How is this news? Is there really anyone here who's surprised after reading this? Next UG headline: Dave Grohl Says No Plans For Nirvana To Reunite In Near Future.
     
stndrdprcdre wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:14 am / quote |
I'm just surprised Phil actually said something that made sense.
     
guitarman052 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:17 am / quote |
Hey Axl Rose, take a note from this you prick! Sometimes, I just wish Phil would beat some sense into Axl. Even though it is highly unlikely!
     
DimeOFlage420 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:28 am / quote |
wow hank wiliams and phil anselmo? wonder what thatt sounds like....as far as making a new album without Dimebag, that would be like that asswipe trying to build a mosque at ground zero..its a desecration of a good name..just aint gonna ****ing fly....especially not after all the shit Anselmo was talking about him, that would take a lot of ****ing nerve...
     
chooka69 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:44 am / quote |
People were making a big deal about him when he was alive. I mean he had his own column in a guitar magazine (don't remember if it was guitar world or what). He had this column because he had one of the most sought after tones in metal. He was also a big deal because not only was he an awesome guitar player, but he was an awesome person. That's rare. People always rave about Van Halen and his guitar playing but the guy's still an *****. Dimebag, on the other hand, was humble and really loved his

Hey,hey,hey! Come on now! Lets not get all irrational and start dissing King Eddie. I loved Dimebag too but shitting on Van Halen is not going to bring him back.
     
Ponomar wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:45 am / quote |
No Pantera without Dimebag?! NO WAY! WHAT NEWS!
     
simpleben09 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 02:09 am / quote |
Sorry, pantera is awesome, but it comes down to this:
No dimebag? No Pantera
     
mysfarbror wrote on 09/11/2010 - 02:44 am / quote |
they were a lot better when they were a glam rock band!!
     
Im_Broken wrote on 09/11/2010 - 04:46 am / quote |
FearOfTheDuck wrote:

If Dime didn't die, no doubt that Pantera would've reformed by now.
dude.
i can only imagine how brutal the next album woulda been.
RTS was ridiculously brutal.
     
ffaf_kick_ass wrote on 09/11/2010 - 05:05 am / quote |
the only way i could see a reunion work is if they have 5 or 6 guitarists each take turns on songs, similar to when various guys came on for johnathan davies of korn at download. that would be cool.
     
ToolCreedence wrote on 09/11/2010 - 05:47 am / quote |
Well no shit..
     
Martyfan wrote on 09/11/2010 - 06:35 am / quote |
Agreed, couldn't have worded it better than Anselmo. No problem with them all playing together, just not under Pantera.

Pantera has it's place in history and that's how it is.
     
NeilTheDruid wrote on 09/11/2010 - 10:26 am / quote |
I normally don't like Anselmo much, but this time I think he's got it right.

Pantera just couldn't be Pantera without Dimes sound.
     
Belsebubb93 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 11:02 am / quote |
i think phil, vinnie, rex and zakk should do a tribute tour for dimebag under the name pantera, but i don't think they should make a new album under the name pantera
     
Valadran wrote on 09/11/2010 - 11:55 am / quote |
Belsebubb93 wrote:

i think phil, vinnie, rex and zakk should do a tribute tour for dimebag under the name pantera, but i don't think they should make a new album under the name pantera


Yea they should make a tribute tour but not with Zakk. Take the best, most dedicated youtube players who have already proven themselves worthy and are true Pantera's fans who can nail Dime's riffs and solos.
There is plenty of them.

I think that Dime would be proud.
     
palm mute wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:06 pm / quote |
xHellbound wrote:

Anselmo & Iommi, do it!


They have, check out Iommi's solo album. "Time is Mine" is the name of the track.
     
xJMan240x wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:19 pm / quote |
Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead.

There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?
     
palm mute wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:41 pm / quote |
xJMan240x wrote:

Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead.

There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?


Grow up man, were you there? Its stupid to hold a grudge on a man you've probably never met for something you weren't even there for.

Wishing Phil would've been shot instead would've been one of the last things Dime would've wanted, even at the height of the Pantera break up.

And thinking Phil caused it is ludicrous, the guy who shot Dime was violently insane and shouldn't have been able to own a weapon in the first place.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/11/2010 - 12:54 pm / quote |
xJMan240x wrote:

Too late for Phil, if he hadn't acted like a douche bag and just fixed his damn back instead of taking drugs then Pantera probably wouldn't have broken up, at least not for the reasons they did, and Dime wouldn't have gotten shot by some deranged fan who should have shot Phil's addict ass instead.

There is pretty much nothing Phil Anselmo can do to earn my respect, no matter whether or not Vinnie and Rex have forgiven him for all the crap he said before Dime was killed. The root cause of Dime being shot was Phil. How can I respect a person who set into motion a chain of events that got one of my heroes killed?


There's no reason to assume Gale wouldn't have come after Dime anyway, even if he was playing with Pantera. What is the logic there? The guy was a sociopath, off his meds, delusional...he had a sick goal...sociopaths don't exactly back down when they get an urge -- they don't have the physical or moral capability to back down.

I think you should really reconsider your moral framework if you truly think someone else should have died in place of Dime. That's a genuinely ludicrous belief to hold.

The person responsible for Dime's death is, one hundred ****ing percent, Nathan Gale. Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me you blame someone who wasn't at the event more than the man who walked in the club and pulled the goddamn trigger? Are you out of your mind?
     
Krenfro213 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:00 pm / quote |
As for Zakk writing with Pantera? NO

As for Zakk touring with Pantera as a tribute to Dime with the old hits? FUCK. YES.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:01 pm / quote |
Way Cool JR. wrote:

Sorry double post

Yes I had surgery I was hit by a car going 60 while riding my bike and my back broke. No I didn't have to go on stage but I was building houses and I was doing that a week after surgery I had to still pay the bills. I had no choice for surgery I was scraped off the road LOL. Plus I have done way harder stuff in way worse situations than Phil performing with an injured back so he really is nothing to praise. And plus I am talking about Phil's shitty singing and attitude that ruined Pantera not his silly injured back.


You had surgery. That's kind of the point -- the surgery allows the discs to be at least slightly repaired more than not having surgery would.

I'm not praising him. The point I'm making is that saying "Phil ruined Pantera" is baseless nonsense when it's obvious the guy actually sacrificed for the band.

His shitty singing live was the alcohol + painkillers. As I said earlier: Yes, some of that is his own stupidity (he does carry some responsibility for that); but some of that is his willingness to hold off on surgery for Pantera, and thus he gets hooked on painkillers.
     
palm mute wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:13 pm / quote |
A big reason for the shitty singing in my opinion is the mentality to be more "metal", if you listen to basically any interview/stage rant from the 90's he always says that they are the band that flies metal's flag in a time when being metal wasn't cool. And every album they seemed to turn up the "metal" another notch, which leads to Phil doing more and more screams and grunts.

I'm also pretty sure that hanging around with Seth Putnam didn't help that any, he started to try and sound like him with his screams and even brought him on to do backup "vocals" on GST
     
kinslayerSOA wrote on 09/11/2010 - 01:38 pm / quote |
Zakk + Pantera tribute? No

Zakk, Flynn, Hammett, Petrucci, Gus G, Laiho, Brent Hinds + Pantera tribute? Yes.
     
cooljew wrote on 09/11/2010 - 03:08 pm / quote |
Down is amazing... Pantera is also awesome.
that is all.
     
HELLAWAITSU wrote on 09/11/2010 - 04:13 pm / quote |
i don't know what to think but, but maybe if zakk and the rest of Pantera did a tribute tour it could be really cool but not to write new songs, i dont think that would be very good in comparison to what Pantera stands for.
     
apak wrote on 09/11/2010 - 04:45 pm / quote |
Lapidus wrote:

Seems so obvious to me...

Is the guy sober and clean now? I mean, I couldn't find a video of him on youtube where he wasn't drunk or high.
F*cking amazing singer though.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being high. A high person is still himself. A drunk person is not. Don't even equate those two..

And this is exciting.
     
Dime'sDisciple wrote on 09/11/2010 - 05:06 pm / quote |
I'm happy nothing will come of it, Pantera were the greatest band the world has ever seen, and Dime the best guitar player, so It's good Phil wouldn't want to tarnish their reputation by trying to carry on.
Long Live Down & HellYeah!
     
overdeath_13 wrote on 09/11/2010 - 06:16 pm / quote |
jesus christ, everyone has said there will be no pantera without dime, people...stop asking!haha
     
MetalDrummer666 wrote on 09/12/2010 - 12:22 am / quote |
I say that it's good that Pantera be left the way it was, and not reanimated as something of a gimmick, but IF they were to reform, rerecord songs, or maybe do a tour, my two picks for a new guitarist would be Zakk Wylde, since he and Dime were best buds, or Brendon Small from Dethklok, since he's a beast on guitar.
     
RockInPeaceDime wrote on 09/12/2010 - 01:19 am / quote |
apak wrote:

Lapidus wrote:

Seems so obvious to me...

Is the guy sober and clean now? I mean, I couldn't find a video of him on youtube where he wasn't drunk or high.
F*cking amazing singer though.There is absolutely nothing wrong with being high. A high person is still himself. A drunk person is not. Don't even equate those two..


err that would seem to depend entirely on what you're using to get high...
     
s1x_str1ng_k1ng wrote on 09/12/2010 - 01:30 am / quote |
Music died the day dimebag darrel was shot. Respect
     
slipknot_420 wrote on 09/12/2010 - 06:00 am / quote |
The funny thing is they probly will end up doing some new shit, and people actually believe they wont, when theres money to be made people tend to do whatever no matter what the outcome is.
     
Smokinjoerules1 wrote on 09/12/2010 - 07:27 am / quote |
have the band only just worked this out
     
andyscoot wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:01 am / quote |
Pantera were trend hoppers. Ripping other band's sounds off as they went along, i'd rather their members stuck to their respective bands and didn't bother reincarnating this overrated excuse for a band.
     
The Wildchild wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:23 am / quote |
You, "andyscoot", are a pathetic excuse for a human being. You obviously can't appreciate the musical greatness that is Pantera. Phil Anselmo is the best singer ever and Dime is a guitar god, like it or not.


lolpanterasucks
     
miahdoll wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:41 am / quote |
strung_out1 wrote:

If only Axl Rose was as clever as the remaining Pantera members
Great comment dude! Fuckin A!
     
miahdoll wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:47 am / quote |
Nobody can replace Dime, we all know that. But I'm glad to see Phil show some respect for the band. I wonder if he talked to Vinnie or Rita, would've liked to hear that conversation.
     
gcahill27 wrote on 09/12/2010 - 11:49 am / quote |
Great to see such a phenomenal response to a Pantera themed post. I miss Dime's riffing too. But yeah **** Anselmo he'll always be a nob
     
AndSteve wrote on 09/12/2010 - 12:49 pm / quote |
Jesus_Dean wrote:

Mixed feelings about this. AC/DC went on w/o Bon Scott, Ozzy went on w/o Randy Rhoads, the Who w/o Keith Moon, Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett....but for every band who lost a key member and then enjoyed further success, there are 10 others who just simply lost the magic.


yeah, but technically pantera split up before dimebag died. and it wasn't like they lost one member either. I mean, vinnie pretty much hated (idk about today) anselmo after what he said about dimebag and stuff
     
Cerberus7string wrote on 09/12/2010 - 02:28 pm / quote |
no dimebag no pantera.
     
ReldvS wrote on 09/12/2010 - 03:19 pm / quote |
PANTERA = Dimebag no dime = no pantera/ PLEASE VINNIE don't change your mind on that one. Pantera should never reform becuz to me that would be an insult to the late great DIMEBAG. These musicians are far talented enough on their own that they don't need the protection of the PANTERA name to make their music a success.
     
ßorn_dead wrote on 09/12/2010 - 03:52 pm / quote |
In other news, there can be no Earth without the Earth. [/obvious]
     
codyclement wrote on 09/12/2010 - 07:20 pm / quote |
If Metallica had no lars ulrich or megadeth with no dave muistaine or slayer with no kerry king it would be pointless, thats what i think of Pantera with no dimebag
     
thirteenburn wrote on 09/12/2010 - 08:13 pm / quote |
To the point of a possible Pantera reunion: in my opinion, it wasn't so much Dime's guitar work that would be missed, but it was also equally Dime's personality that made Pantera what it was; so while you COULD get another guitarist and carry on the Pantera name, without Dime, it would be just another metal band.

And regardless of my feelings and utter respect for Dime, I've never bought into the BS and acrimony between Vinnie Paul, Dime's "wife" and Phil. A lot of people fail to realize that if that were in fact the case, would Rex have continued to play with Phil? No f-ing way is the answer, so whatever animosity remains between the three, it's got NOTHING to do with Phil & Dime's relationship.

And yes, I remember the supposed comments Phil made, OFF THE RECORD (I heard Phil had a little "talk" with the P.O.S. who did the piece), but again, if that were really the case, Rex wouldn't have been caught within 100 miles of Phil, not to mention that the relationship between Vinnie, Dime's wife and Rex hasn't suffered.

No, there is something far deeper going on here, but regardless of that, any reunion would have to be a new and different thing. The memory and massive respect of Dime warrants nothing less.

*raising a Black-tooth Grin

CHEERS BRO! YOU'RE MISSED MORE THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW!
     
thirteenburn wrote on 09/12/2010 - 08:14 pm / quote |
Apologies for not remembering Dime's wife, Rita. I just couldn't remember at the time.

No offense meant.
     
jackrocks4 wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:02 pm / quote |
my opinion, if vinnie and phil ever make peace, zakk wylde would be he best person to tour with for a pantera reunion. i know it would make alot of people happy.

only problem, zakk during crazy trains intro=too many pinch harmonics, id hope zakk wouldnt butcher dimes riffs like that. but you never know. i just think that would be the best thing to do. id gladly see a concert like that.
     
BloodRedSkies wrote on 09/12/2010 - 09:51 pm / quote |
i personally love phil and defend his rather colourful personality to the bitter end, but i think Down is a great effort (vinnie's stuff not so much :V) and it would only be a nostalgia trip where the novelty would wear off quickly. Besides, the people saying that phil was best in the 80s are right, his original voice was perfect, but it went away in an attempt to be 'more aggressive' or something, i dunno :v
     
symbolic_acts wrote on 09/12/2010 - 11:06 pm / quote |
zakk wylde should form a new band with the remaining pantera members, call it something else but they could still play some pantera covers here and there, could be pretty awesome
     
jokeyramone wrote on 09/12/2010 - 11:15 pm / quote |
even if dime was still alive,zakk would never be welcome in the pantera camp again for 2 reasons...
1. he quit drinking
2. he sponsors justin beiber's current guitar player.and he quit drinking.
     
 aig91   m   wrote on 09/13/2010 - 12:01 am / quote |
Checked
     
dylrob wrote on 09/13/2010 - 12:44 am / quote |
RockInPeaceDime, The Flag on Dimes guitar and strung up at their shows was the Confederate flag, not the Union Jack, the Union Jack is British, And now we know, and knowing is half the battle
     
gljbass wrote on 09/13/2010 - 05:26 am / quote |
tume wrote:

N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win

No Pantera without Dime, Zakk is not even close as good as Dime.


Eck... Zakk, I'm a fan of him, but I agree that Dime is much better. Zakk's material has that one sound to it. I mean, compare Black Label Society to Ozzy's more recent things. I don't want Pantera to sound like that. Not that it's bad, but it's just not Pantera.
     
Agent_Shagwell wrote on 09/13/2010 - 08:45 am / quote |
Yes, he is right, no way would there be Pantera without Dime, I play my razorback in honour to you Darrell!
     
khujo1023 wrote on 09/13/2010 - 10:45 am / quote |
N64 wrote:

They should just get Zakk Wylde to fill in for Dimebag...they were good buds and have similar styles.

Pantera - Dimebag + Zakk Wylde = Win


Hand in your metal card buddy. That was a silly statement. Wikipedia had a false entry saying John 5 would be playing a show in Indy for Pantera.... Bricks were shat.
     
BwareDWare94 wrote on 09/13/2010 - 11:11 am / quote |
qrEE wrote:

If this was news, I'd like it, but come on, without Dime, there IS no Pantera! That's like a Death reunion without Chuck!


That's be a great simile, but Death is just so much better than Pantera I can't give you props on that one.
     
Misfit-FTB wrote on 09/13/2010 - 01:55 pm / quote |
jokeyramone wrote:

even if dime was still alive,zakk would never be welcome in the pantera camp again for 2 reasons...
1. he quit drinking
2. he sponsors justin beiber's current guitar player.and he quit drinking.


This.
     
Misfit-FTB wrote on 09/13/2010 - 01:59 pm / quote |
BwareDWare94 wrote:

qrEE wrote:

If this was news, I'd like it, but come on, without Dime, there IS no Pantera! That's like a Death reunion without Chuck!

That's be a great simile, but Death is just so much better than Pantera I can't give you props on that one.


Why? I don't see how comparing those two bands from a different genre in this situation even matters when the subject is replacing a dead member. It's the same exact thing. You could NEVER EVER replace Chuck, just like you could NEVER EVER replace Dimebag.
     
SJ05020599 wrote on 09/13/2010 - 06:49 pm / quote |
FearOfTheDuck wrote:

If Dime didn't die, no doubt that Pantera would've reformed by now.


Hard to say. Before Dime, rest his soul, passed away, they couldn't get Phil to leave his home in Louisiana to record or anything, they had to get ahold of his friends in New Orleans to drive into the country to relay a message to him. Acoording to Pantera's manager though, Walter O'Brien I think his name is, no one had ever heard from Phil that he had quit Pantera, but they could never get him to come out. So I really don't know...I mean assuming he's clean from heroin and all that shit now, it's possible, but the way everything was going at the time makes it seem like it never would have happened.
     
trivum_rulz666 wrote on 10/22/2010 - 05:19 pm / quote |
guitgrinder wrote:

Zakk cant touch Dimes shit. Wouldn't work. Pantera's power came from the Barbarosa Roja! Without the Red Beard, there is no Pantera.


what about scott ian (anthrax)both pantera and anthrax influenced each other if they were to reunite i would suggest going under the moniker "new level" i would be happy with that then its not tarnishing the pantera legacy
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