Red Hot Chili Peppers Accused In Plagiarism

According to a recent Drowned In Sound report, a US radio presenter has accused the Red Hot Chili Peppers of plagiarism, claiming that the band's "Dani California" single is near identical to Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance".

Dan Gaffney, of Delaware-based WGMD, told his listeners of the similarities. Subsequently, the show's producer Jared Morris told reporters:

"The chord progression, the melody, the tempo, the key, the lyrical theme... they're identical."

To prove the point, Morris has posted an MP3 on his personal blog. Check it out at this location. Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

As previously reported, Red Hot Chili Peppers sold 157,000 copies of their Warner Bros. double-disc "Stadium Arcadium," enough to lead teh Billboard 200 chart for a second week.

Also, watch Anthony Kiedis talking on how American Idol is affecting the music in today's video news article.

Comments

[Carlson-online]

lol its the same chord prog and drum beat but thats about it.
its in a different key is can be told, and theyve speeded the Tom petty one up loads!!!

[frodoisdead]

this makes me laugh.

[METSOAD]

hehe

[tides240]

It's so similar, like i've heard it somewhere else...like in TOM PETTY's SONG! This is freakin great...lol!

[slashnduff4eva]

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

[Experiences]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

[jables23092]

um thats pretty much total BS, just a comment from somebody with a microphone who wanted to make a big deal, there are a lot of songs with similarities, and even if you try and compare the two, the peppers did a way better job of making a song out of the rythm and chords haha

[guitartilldeath]

woah seriously, they do sound very similar indeed

[y2james2005]

hahaha thats pretty damn similar!

[evilbiscuit]

if I were Tom Petty I'd be pretty pissed. Its exactly the same. It cant be coincidence.

[Covin]

To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

[Towlie]

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

[guitarhero_908]

The intro to "Readymade" on Stadium Arcadium sounds similiar to the intro to "Mountain Song" by Jane's Addictio.
This Tom Petty example more so though.

[livinginpixels]

hoooooly craaap. Even though its pretty hard for musicians to sue other people, i think tom petty could get major $$$ from this.

damn you rhcp

[x_rox]

lead teh Billboard

bit of 1337 for UG there :P
They are similar but not identical. Loads of chord progression and lyrical topics are the same but are they all plagiarised? I think not.

[RustedFox]

"No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two.

[lwnovember]

funny

[MarkTremonti]

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords. And as mentioned in the broadcast, the drum beats and bass lines even match up. It sounds pretty fishy to me but who know except the Chili Peppers. We'll just have to wait and see how this one turns out.

[mrFood]

'lead teh Billboard'

Tee hee.

[evilbiscuit]

No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two

yeah but you cant copyright a chord progression. If you could then it would be impossible to make new music. Its the melody thats gonna get them in trouble.

[buried_a_lie]

there are loads of songs that have the same chord progression (listen to nirvana) that doesnt mean they are plagiarised

[y2james2005]

Covin wrote:

To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

i thought that!!

Towlie wrote:

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

no that though...allthough i see what u mean!

[slashs_snakepit]

if it true lets thank ourselves the Peppers did it and not like Britney or whoever lolz...

[Zamboni]

spam check

[Diceman42]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

Nice comeback, tool.

Anyways, although the songs are identical (note the content of the lyrics: girls and states for example) and the song could easily be a reproduction of Petty's, I dont necessarily believe this was an intent of the Chillies.

However, plagiarism is plagiarism, whether intended or not. They fail you immediately in any academic setting for that.

To the chillies the song may have been "one of those songs" that sounds really familiar but dont know why, and thus attributed it to its "hit" power. I wonder if legal action will take place.

[imbackagain2]

There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords

Actually the chords are a/g/d/a. The exact same as tom pettys last dance with marry jane. I don't know how you play guitar, but these are normal chords. NOt wierd ass. Fruscantie just plays them differently then the way you have probably learnt them.

[afortuneinlies]

well, the major difference is that Petty's is a lot better. I like RHCP, but that song just isn't anything special at all. Last Dance with Mary Jane is nice raunchy rock and roll song, it's always been good.

I honestly don't think Petty will give a damn. He just writes decent rock songs. everyone has used similar chord progressions to him, because they are just basic rock progressions. the lyrics and melody may be debateable but the tempo may as well be thrown aside...it's just a tempo....i dunno. None of it really matters to me.

[Stephen00000]

bollocks. they released an interview prior to dani california's release which was about how the song cam about. Its a fluke how it ended up sounding how it did. chili's are above copying ideas off other ppl.

[applax]

lol the first time my roommate heard me playing dani califorina he thought it was tom petty so they are really similar but who cares.

[afortuneinlies]

oh and on another note(my apologies for the double post) how about the similarites between boulevard of broken dreams and that tonic song "if you could only see" ? that little guitar melody fill thing...there's like...one different note

[vietnow_96]

i swear they've sold more than 157,000 copies.

[MAYNARD]

Itsa ripoff. RHCP shoulda hung it up after BSSM. They are rewriting the same songs over and over. Plus they are stupid. They coulda split Stadium Arcadium into 2 albums of the same music, and made more money, since that seems really important to them. Fuck the RHCP, they suck some serious ass.

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore.

[frusciante_man1]

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

[stevenlogan]

I didn't bother check out Petty's version, but kiedis have been writing about girls and states for a long time..

Fruiscante says that he gets influenced by the music he hears in that period. Maybe he heard Petty's song and, unintentionally, played a riff that sounded like that one. Fuck, who knows?

[metalhead_maddo]

Lol I suppose that explains why it's the only RHCP song I don't actually think sucks balls...

...it's not even their song hahaha

[HellBent1337]

Seriously, do you not realise THat the songs are 2 VERY diffrent songs, there are more commin ones out there, For mary jane its Am,G,D,Am(7)...But Dani Califorina is Am,G,Dm,Am...pretty close, but you have to realise that's enough, with a simple drum beat...They both have comepletely diffrent solo's and vocal meledies, and choruses....GET A LIFE MAN!

[calnix]

Wow, they sped up the Tom Petty song entirely too much...

[H_Zula]

...this just further proof that it will eventually be the same music over and over, even RHCP can't be completely orginial always...

[Aunt_bazza]

horse

[Fender_tele=sex]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

I think you should give up and go home! whats wrong with you every ones loves the chilis!!

[blacksides]

its also the same progression as hey baby by jimi hendrix, so what?

[nehpets5555]

damn , its similar all right

[JethroTullfan72]

The Tom Petty song has been sped up so much its not even funny. Yes, the songs have some similarities. But alot of songs do, that doesnt mean it was done purposly. This is just someone trying to make a big deal and get his 15 minutes of fame.

[H_Zula]

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

[chinesechipmunk]

frusciante_man1 wrote:

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

My god. You really are dissing Tom Petty??

Christ almighty! That man's probably influenced as many bands as Sabbath has!

[jayr123guitar]

imbackagain2 wrote:

There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords


Actually the chords are a/g/d/a. The exact same as tom pettys last dance with marry jane. I don't know how you play guitar, but these are normal chords. NOt wierd ass. Fruscantie just plays them differently then the way you have probably learnt them.

actually its Am/G/Dm/Am opposed to petty's Am/G/D/Am

[MoshMaster101]

So? Paul Weller's 'The Changingman' has exactly the same intro as 10538 Overture by ELO. But they both still rock.

[dr00pa]

Sometiems musicians are inadvertntly influenced by other musicians and dont even realize they took someting... ive done it accidetally but caught myself.

And BTW... states and girls... check out Around the World from Californication...

[SYH_Fan]

H_Zula :
I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

Dude thats called a COVER SONG

[punkrockjoe]

You know sometimes i write songs and i'm just like oh shit it sounds like this other thing but it's just coincidence.I doubt they actually ripped it off and if they did the rhcp version is better haha.

[DanG]

they are the red hot chili peppers, tom petty is tom petty enough said

[Ischi]

It's the Chili Peppers were talking about here, they're creative to write there own stuff... Although they do have similarities...

[fusebox7]

They aren't that similar if you listen to Tom Petty's actual song "Mary Jane's Last Dance" and not that clip on here that's been altered a bit... In my own opinion I don't think they're that similar as some have played it out to be.

[elcapitan1800]

Does anyone really believe that RHCP needs to plagerize? I dont believe it. Maybe if it was some no name band, but the Peppers do it good enough on their own.

[ArucardHellsing]

I don't like their music but it'll be quite interesting to see what is going to happen next.

[mistaman]

haha this is ridiculous, does anyone really think that this will undermine how creative rhcp really is? I mean, they're pretty much the only rock band that plays extended solos anymore.

[madefortvmovie]

holy shit THE SAME CHORD PROGRESSION!!!!! i wonder how many hundreds of songs use it

[Epiphone_D2DaP]

That is the biggest load of s**t ive ever read, i've just listened to both songs together at the same tempo an the chord progression isn't even the same, close ok but still its no way a rip off!! The Chili's are to good for that anyway

[MAYNARD]

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

[MAYNARD]

mistaman wrote:

I mean, they're pretty much the only rock band that plays extended solos anymore.

You need to broaden your horizons. Tons of bands have solos, and they are by far the least creative with it, and John Frusciante is their strong point.

[ArcherTheVMan]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

your both equally as single-minded.

[ArcherTheVMan]

H_Zula wrote:

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

..ther called cover songs. i bet you thought garage inc. was a big rip off album too didnt you?

[Zamboni]

another spam check- good job kids

[Cliff_Hetfield]

It's different. I mean yeah it's similar but it's still not the same. And since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?

[ShootToThrill]

in the solo of dani california theres bits that sound like purple haze.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

and the Tempo too. Since when has that been considered a part of "musical" plagiarism.

[Andrewsonfire]

Sound very much then same.. even the singing and the lyrics are along the same lines.

[Justice-For-All]

If Petty's name isn't in the the musical credits then this is just like Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice baby. Anyone else notice that the song Especially in Michigan sounds almost exactly like a U2 song. Someone better check that s-hit out too. The only question now is why?

[trevonator]

whoop dee doo.
who complained when all those rap artists stole queen and zeppelin songs. Or that new one Rhianna-SOS is tainted love.

I love both the songs, I think this radio guy forgot to take his pills this morning.
It's like trying to tell an artist they are plagiarising for using the 12 bar blues.

[CE49]

This dude does have a point

[funky_punk]

Yer i agree its the same chords but it wouldnt be like the chilis to rip anyone off- id say its just coincidence

[kickouthejams7]

Frusciante admitted to using Hendrix's riff on the solo, not as plagarism but as tribute. Just for the record. Also there are only so many chord progressions to choose from.

[minorbravo]

Justice-For-All wrote:

Anyone else notice that the song Especially in Michigan sounds almost exactly like a U2 song. Someone better check that s-hit out too. The only question now is why?

that song does sound familar i just cant place it

[Save You]

there is no need for anyone to accuse anyone of plagiarism...seriously. how many notes are in music? how many times can those notes be used before you copy someone? it is impossible to not copy someone; if they did they can get away with it and say it was a tribute to tom petty

frodoisdead wrote:

this makes me laugh.

yeah me too...

the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solos...umm pick up the new Pearl Jam album...McCready plays some pretty sick solos and even better ones live...

[ekune26]

Man...you can't compose a song that has no similarityes with another...There are a lot of songs that are the same..just play Fade To Black..Unforgiven..and Cemetery Gates (pantera) and you will se that they have similarityes...Anyone can write a song that is similar to another without knowing..there are A LOT OF SONGS IN THIS WORLD...

[chieftanec]

This is why I say stupid people shouldnt be given a microphone. This guy is obviously an idiot who wants publicity, (after all hes a radio presenter) which means he prolly lives with his parents. The only parts that seem remotely identical is the begining, and thats only because its speed up. The rest of the songs lyrical and insturmental song nothing alike.

[stboney]

sound similair but who cares, honestly every1 have ripped sum1 and sum1 will allways be ripped off, seether and nirvana now THATS a better debate

[guitar_freak523]

theres both pretty basic rythmes that have been used lots of times

[darkwarrior2010]

how do u plagiarism beats and sound thats like me sueing someone for going grrr cause its my sound

[zbones]

hey if anyone actually listens to the entire tom petty song, it's completely different. totally different tempo too, the guy who put up that mp3 is a loser and sped tom petty's song up. i bet there's lots of songs that use the same chords..... LONG LIVE TOM PETTY AND THE RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS!!!!

[Echoes_26]

Red Hot Chili Peppers can make their own music... they are after all funk rock, one of the most creative genres... I dont believe this junk.

[rx182]

This song also sounds like Ozzy Osbourne's Perry Mason. I know both songs are totally different... but the patterns are the same... listent to both you will understand.

[Meteorshower]

Towlie wrote:

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

That's just cause they play the root note of a chord then the chord... Lot's of songs do that...

[13Flxxrocker]

i knew it sounded familiar

[ihavnofingrprnt]

loads of songs are built along a certain chord progression

ie, nirvana-smells like teen spirit/offspring-self esteem

finding a similar arangement and tempos are likely, so they have some leeway on that fact, but if tthe bass and drum beats are identical it would seem to be more coincidence

[Izz]

It is a ****ing rip-off you can't get away from it. The tempo. the beat, the chords, everything is the same. And Mary Jane's last dance pwns any red hot chili pepper

[Spankey]

Covin :
To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

Dani california sounds nothing like sweet home alabama, this is coming from a lynyrd skynyrd fan.

There are so many songs that sound alike that it isnt even funny, people shouldnt get so butt hurt over it.

[wabusy33]

I heard a song of one of the the chilli peppers songs on tv and I thought one of the riffs on it either sounded like voodoo child or purple haze, i forget which one though, I just remember it was a hendrix song. And there's also this hot chick out with some crappy hit song that sounds identical to tainted love but I forget what her name was. It doesn't surprise me that new music today is ripping off or sounding identical by accident to older music. I guess most musicians feel the need to rip off good music from the past because their not good enough to come up with their own shit.

[fallinsuburbia]

I thought you weren't able to copyright your chord progression.

[Spankey]

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos

[Spankey]

dont get me wrong i like the peppers but they are very main stream and there solos arnt that great, flea is a good bass players though, but its better than no solo's i guess.

[mats1337]

well i like the chillis and theyre probably the best rock and roll band atm but this is just copying the songs are identical

[Inahrima]

[Meteorshower]

wabusy33 wrote:

I heard a song of one of the the chilli peppers songs on tv and I thought one of the riffs on it either sounded like voodoo child or purple haze, i forget which one though, I just remember it was a hendrix song. And there's also this hot chick out with some crappy hit song that sounds identical to tainted love but I forget what her name was. It doesn't surprise me that new music today is ripping off or sounding identical by accident to older music. I guess most musicians feel the need to rip off good music from the past because their not good enough to come up with their own shit.

The tainted love thing was sampling i'm pretty sure

[wabusy33]

Spankey wrote:

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos

There's still bands doing solos besides the rhcp, just not as many. Look at bands like audioslave, bls, qotsa and velvet revolver, they still play solos and their 10 times better then rhcp's crappy solos.

[xxgenocide98xx]

HellBent1337 wrote:

Seriously, do you not realise THat the songs are 2 VERY diffrent songs, there are more commin ones out there, For mary jane its Am,G,D,Am(7)...But Dani Califorina is Am,G,Dm,Am...pretty close, but you have to realise that's enough, with a simple drum beat...They both have comepletely diffrent solo's and vocal meledies, and choruses....GET A LIFE MAN!

Get a life man? Yet at the same time look at what happened to Vanilla Ice for a simple drum/bass beat.

Personally I thought that it was the petty song, I came over to my buddy's hosue and I was like 'wtf, where did you get this? Ive never heard this version of last dance' and he looked at me like I was stupid before telling me it was RHCP.

[fusugar]

a few people on here are saying chilli peppers suck i think thats a bit unfair. I hate the chilli peppers but you have to respect them for what they are

[Meths]

Wow, whose editing these articles? "accused IN plagiarism"?

"Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet."

Pft. Terrible grammar.

And it's not plagiarism if the supposed plagiariser hasn't heard the original. Considering the vast amounts of music that's been written it's hardly surprising if similar sounding songs crop up every now and then. Immediately screaming plagiarism is a bit harsh and possibly a plea for media attention.

[morelloman19]

obviously no one knows that Frusciante used his influences from the 60s to the 80s on this album. this was probably on purpose. did no one notice how the main riff in the solo is purple haze in a different key?

[JCbasster]

i mean yeh teh sound similar, but you ever heard of the bible theory, of all the songs out there thats bound to happen...with the same chord pattern and rhythm, i think and hope its just a coincidence

[Izz]

Echoes_26 wrote:

Red Hot Chili Peppers can make their own music... they are after all funk rock, one of the most creative genres... I dont believe this junk.

Why aren't they doin' so then?

[morelloman19]

wabusy33 wrote:

Spankey wrote:

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos


There's still bands doing solos besides the rhcp, just not as many. Look at bands like audioslave, bls, qotsa and velvet revolver, they still play solos and their 10 times better then rhcp's crappy solos.

that is probably the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. listen to the chili peppers before you tell me that Frusciante is a crappy soloist. and they don't just have guitar solos. there's a percussion solo in Hump de Bump. oh and by the way, they only have one guitarist and he recorded up to 4 different guitar parts for half the songs on Stadium Arcadium.

[That_Pink_Queen]

It's actually completely legal to copy a chord progression, the essential part legally is basically the melody.


Petty's song is still WAY better.

[ANGERisaGIFT]

I'd be more pissed about the new artists who rip off artists by taking their instrumental tracks and putting new vocals over them. I don't know the artist, but the song is called SOS and completely rips off The Cure's Tainted Love. At least the Chili Peppers only used a single verse (which I'm sure you can find repeating verses in alot of songs with simple 3-chord progressions), and they had the decency to actually record their own version.

[Confined Rage]

well everyone could tell a similarity in the song to mj's last dance the second they heard dani california, at least i could im suprised this hasnt been a problem sooner.

[Life Wasted]

Nickelback dose the same thing on every song and nobody say's anything

[roythereaper]

Think of all the music produced using guitars, bass drums and vocals, since what, the early 50's? In the space of 56 years you all expect there won't be 2 songs that sound similar? Stairway To Heaven and everyone elses examples too. And as has been said before also, Petty's was sped up anyways.

[GuitarJunkie]

wow...im familiar with both songs...and that guy whos accusing them of copying the tom petty song...is a ****ing dolt.

[roythereaper]

However, the old Chili's stuff was fantastic. If only they could create a new genre again.

[the evil edge]

oasis/cigarettes and alcohol and T.rex/get it on... this happens all the time. shit happens.

[nimrod_hahahaha]

i duno why people are concentrating on the fact that copying chord progressions is not plagiarism. no, it isnt, but that's not the point. its not just the chord progression, its everything but the actually words in the lyrics. maybe its accidental but it seems like a big coincedence. and before someone rips me for saying something against their favourite band, i like RHCP as well i just think its strange...

[liam177lewis]

its just funny lol

[okayplayer]

thats bullshit its for the LOVE of the MUSIC RHCP rock my socks off i hate when people talk shit about them if anyone leaveing comments can play as good as them write your own shit and try to make it big if not then shut the **** up

[nimrod_hahahaha]

thats bullshit its for the LOVE of the MUSIC RHCP rock my socks off i hate when people talk shit about them if anyone leaveing comments can play as good as them write your own shit and try to make it big if not then shut the **** up

you're obviously one of those fans that has a little shrine to them in your room and gets a little moist when you get to the barrier at their gigs. sorry had to be said.

[okayplayer]

haha how did you know sry if i like good music i didnt know people would hate on me for that

[nimrod_hahahaha]

all right calm down why do you think i hate you?? you're a chilis fan, im a chilis fan, its all good.

[bush_slayer_07]

people are so dum everybody copies everybody in the music business thats why theiers a 1000 punk rock bands a 1000 hheavy metal bands and a1000 country bands who gives a shit theyre both good songs

[Knives490]

jared morris sped up the tom petty song so he cheated on makin a point, and i hope noone has made this point yet, but nothing is original anymore everythings already been thought of, besides the peppers are makin a more rock-funk song and mary jane's last dance is way too slow to be the basis for dani california, although they do sound similar they are not identical, my idea is just play music if it sounds the same whatever someone else will make it even more similar in the future.

[system_junky]

all of u that are mad at rhcp, are just jealous. ur jealous cause they are making loads of money, and ur still asking people "if they would like fries wit that"

[randyrhoads#1]

the song sucks ass so who cares!!!

[jiminizzle]

Itsa ripoff. RHCP shoulda hung it up after BSSM. They are rewriting the same songs over and over. Plus they are stupid. They coulda split Stadium Arcadium into 2 albums of the same music, and made more money, since that seems really important to them. Fuck the RHCP, they suck some serious ass.

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore.

MAYNARD wrote:

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

HOLY SHIT!
Maynard you are the most ignorant guy ever
this is RHCP! the guys who sold hyde park for the highest grossing single venue concert event of all time!
OVERRATED?!!?
They are the real deal
the guys who walked across abbey road with nothing on but socks are not creative? The bands you listed arent even that good. this has happened before and you and all the other antiRHCP people can go screw themselves because they are just sad that they can't make it big like the chilis. And they are in it for the money? please. they are the only band left that still cares about the music.

and thats what its all about in the end-- the music

[toolmns]

RIDICULOUS! both songs are different. period.

[paintITblack39]

Big deal they copied off another person. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Oasis did it. Oh wait, all those bands are famous and no one besides people on UG care about it.

[paintITblack39]

Big deal they copied off another person. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Oasis did it. Oh wait, all those bands are famous and no one besides people on UG care about it.
[quote=MAYNARD]The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily [/quote]
Wow you just proved yourself wrong over there. How the hell can they sound the same if they changed their music dumbass.

[Bulletbass man]

Tom pettys was sped up. They're not at the same tempo. The chords are somewhat similar but all the fills in the chilis music set it entirely apart. The vocals don't exactly sound a like either.

[Kendawg4TooL]

Cliff_Hetfield wrote:

It's different. I mean yeah it's similar but it's still not the same. And since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?

Beautiful point about the legality to copy themes of a song, if that were the case then every freakin' duplicate emo song would be a case of plagarism against the other. I think this is rubbish. It's a couple simple chord progressions and a very SIMPLE drum beat (one that I'm sure is used in countless other songs).

The structure and style of both songs is very typical alot of classic rock songs, Petty's not the only person who's written a song like Last dance with mary jane. There are a whole sleuth of songs like that in the classic rock catolouge it's just that Last dance is a very known and reputable song. The video of Dani California is a big ode to the history of rock n' roll as it is so maybe this works in the same way. IDK whatever, that's just what I think of it. Besides that I just think it's a coincidence and I seriously doubt Petty would give a damn. He's not a ***** for money who's waiting to pounce on any legal battle he can. Tom Petty is one of the more respectable artist who never sold out.

[bush_slayer_07]

just to and on to what tom petty is a whashed up looser sell out who sells his songs to the nba for playoffs music GO RHCP FUCK TOM PETTY WHO DID NOTHING TO PROGRESS MUSIC AT ALL

[MESAexplorer]

This is the best thing I ever heard HAHA

[Learn_to_fly]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home. I'm a cock. A douchbag. I don't have a penis. I don't know what real music is. I'm a p-head metal head. Pantera!!! I'm a cock!

I know

[GuitaPlaya]

guitarhero_908 wrote:

The intro to "Readymade" on Stadium Arcadium sounds similiar to the intro to "Mountain Song" by Jane's Addictio.
This Tom Petty example more so though.

they do

[pieboy]

this is bullshit. rhcp wrote 27 other original songs for stadium arcadium, why would they bother to plagerise 1?

[Stooja]

They might sound similar but it doesn't mean they are the same song, plus how much better does Dani california sound than that anyway...

[marko'd]

FIRST OF ALL SLASH HAS MANY DIFFERENT SLYLES AND IS A AMAZING GUITARIST AND IF "experiences" needs to get a new hearing aid if he's saying that about a great guitarist like slash.Now to the chilli's i don't think they completely copied the rythem i meen at max they borrowed the drum beat and made it better and maybe a few rythems but again maid it better.OOOOH i also think herman Li is AMAZING at guitar but that's besides the point

[marko'd]

ooh i agree with pieboy

[richard_edwards]

that guy has got a point
they do sound veeeery similar.
when he layers them on the mp3, its the perfect match.

[theexperience13]

funny. me and my friends were just talkin about this

[Vedder]

i see very limited lyrical similarites, mary janes last dance mentiones how many states? 1? screw that, tonnes of songs do that.

[RainbowBassist]

i love the rhcp. but first of all, their song is clearly in a different key, and really, who cares about tom petty? this is a pointless argument just to get publicity.

[MetalHead73]

if anyone has noticed
Incubus' Drive's intro sounds exactly like the intor to mary jane except incubus' is on acoustic guitar and mary jane is on electric

[hobo467]

Weird how similar they are; the Chilis have never been known to imitate, as far as I know; I listened to both, and they have the same thmatic meaning and chord progression; it happens, I guess, but this is weird.

[R0CKER1220]

At the points where they played both at the same time, the dissonance was scraping at my ears, they're definately similar but no where near the same.

[boyan89]

so what its not that bad and red hot chili peppers have much better guitar playing then that band ever will so yah

[EnglishChick]

yeah so they're similar, but not identical. the tempo and key is different, and Dani California is alot better

[Kick Me]

Yeah I actually thought they sounded alike too after I heard it, cause my friend just gave me Tom Petty's greatest hits. But its not plagerism...

[Kwokinator]

someones going to sue someone :o

[trickie]

Has anyone ever thought that perhaps RHCP bought the rights for the song? WHat probably happened was that the Petty song seeped into Frusciante's subconscious so when he busted out a chord progression everyone liked it not knowing what happened but when the song was all said and done they probably then realized what happened and just bought the rights.

[WrathofKahn]

Holy Crap! Who cares? These days it's hard not to take parts of other songs. The beat's a wu tang clan beat anyway.

[supersonic23]

Damn This is almost like the time Vanilla Ice ripped Queen and David Bowie "Its that extra ting" lol

[Seri0usJ0ker]

Red Hot Chili Peppers had no intention of anything. I admit they sound similar. Listen to the chorus of Dani California though. Does that sound like any of Mary Jane's Last Dance? No. Listen to the bridge of Dani California where John sings. Does that sounds anything like anywhere of Mary Jane's Last Dance? No. Millions of songs have that drum beat. And Flea on bass, yes it's simlar, but he does a lot more than the standard thing, I know both songs. Same goes for John Frusciante. And are you kidding me, the vocals don't sound alike. Get a life.

[a real DEAD one]

Its all cool, Im sure they really didnt mean to. Theres not much diffrent stuff to do anyways... Musics been around for ever

[DanSumthing]

If you're calling this plagairism, then you know nothing about music.
It's a very simple chord progression in basic 4/4 time signature.
Thousands of other songs exist with the same time signature and the same chord progression.

[HarmlessMarvin]

"No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two.

Maybe cause they're not really the same.

[KickOutTheJamsX]

obviously petty traveled to the future and stole the song from the chilis.

[smash119]

does anyone remember george harrison and "my sweet lord"? he was found guilty of plagiarising "sub-consciously"...look t up on wikipedia, the ruling on the case is fairly interesting.

[dwnbowden]

MarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords.

WTF!!! How can you say that if you haven't even see the chords! They are Am G and Dm HOW ARE THEY WEIRD. There are only seven chords in each key, of course some songs will sound the same. Bloody hell. Mountain out of a molehill.

[BreakingBnj]

Do you guys realize that petty's song is sped up on this recording?

It's pure BS.

[Tim69]

it's possible to enter their minds subliminally. anyway its not the same!

[Guitar_Dude777]

wow i deff. hear it!!! thats shocking!

[el_strato]

^^yeah, it's the most bs I've heard all day. The grammer isn't even correct so i doubt the article is even true.

[AccidentsHappen]

There's alot of similarities if you ask me, it's not a total copy though. Some parts are very convincing though... I hope RHCP didn't do this meaningfully... damn

[Arkane]

yea but who cares really...the chilli peppers are allowed to get away with it. They might have done it purposely, they said in a guitarworld interview that they used a few classic rock riffs in this album.

[unlearn27]

You're a ****ing idiot if you say this is plagiarism, It's the same progression, different keys, I've played along with both. Bands repeat their own progressions occasionally in different songs and people don't know it. This is not the worst example.

[blinnk16]

Petty's song is sped up, yeah. It's the same chord progression, so what? When he starts singing it doesn't sound much the same. Think of all the songs you have to be careful of to not have the same chord progession, while keeping on top of lyrics, thousand of fans, so much for these guys to watch out for, I'm sure they weren't sitting back listening to Mary Jane's Last dance and going.. hey that sounds good, lets play it like that only faster!

[dazzler16]

Their are similarities but so what i know both songs and i like both songs and you get some ahole complaining abt this he prob just cudnt cut it in the music business so he decided he'd rag on famous ppl

[forty-six_and_2]

Bloody hell there's soo many comments here. Just like when there's 'Tallica news all the fan boys come in and all the Megadeth fan boys bitch and whine. Now it's RHCP fan boys mainly, and some people who can actually accept the truth. They plagerised it. Get over it. They did and it's an awful thing. It's a letdown really. They're cretive enough to write their own songs so why don't they? Bad days I assume?

[forty-six_and_2]

Arkane wrote:

yea but who cares really...the chilli peppers are allowed to get away with it. They might have done it purposely, they said in a guitarworld interview that they used a few classic rock riffs in this album.

Oh get a ****ing life. If it was Tom Petty who plagerized the song you'd all be bitching about it and flaming Tom Petty. The RHCP have too many fan boys. They plagerized it and it's shameful. Admit it.

[kbass9267]

A lot of songs sound the same. Doesn't mean one artist plagerized the other.

[Pistachio81]

so many bands in the era of the who's album tommy snagged alot of melodies and chord progressions from the great album.

back then it was called influence, now in our PC decade it's called plagarism.

rchp and tom petty are both great musicians, quite laid back i doubt alot will come out of this ordeal just because some DJ uses his influence to project his own opinions

[Pistachio81]

so many bands in the era of the who's album tommy snagged alot of melodies and chord progressions from the great album.

back then it was called influence, now in our PC decade it's called plagarism.

i doubt alot will come out of this ordeal just because some DJ uses his influence to project his own opinions

[StratEnRegalia]

Tom Petty probably wouldn't care too much. In fact, he's one who talks about how shit does end up similar due to format constraints. The chords are pretty damn common. There are only so many things that can be done with something like that, he believes. I don't think he's a guy who'd be such an open hypocrite and actually sue.

[Axlthegreat]

H_Zula wrote:

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's!
I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

lol I got a kick outta this, it's called a cover song dude, musicians do it all the time. The best cover song imo way better than lass kiss would be train kept a rollin by Aerosmith.

[rustymoore91]

no way man they rock and always will! and besides the solo is a similar sorta thing to purple haze, its meant to be, paying homage and all that.

[=ToM=]

who gives a **** if they sound similar...
if we tell people to stop using similar chords we end up with... rap, which shouldn't even be called music...

and those of you who hate the chillis, name 10 better bands who have released an album in the last 3 years...

[borninamoshpit_]

frusciante_man1 wrote:

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow....people are stupider than I thought...

TOM PETTY is a legend

[backinblack111]

hmm pretty similar, lol this makes me laugh a lot

[JD89]

Probably one of the most original bands in the world accused of plagiarism....didn't see that comin'

[Kobrakai]

I really like Dani California but it is annoying how similar it is to this other song . I think I'll make a banner for when I go see them in Hyde Park :P

[foomandan]

I dont beleave this bull shit CHILI PEPPERS KICK ASS!!!!

[rayIII]

[quote=UG]"Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet"[/quote]
that made me lol

[Kartman]

That progression is the V IV I progression. It's very common and used in a buttload more songs than those two.

[euan_soad]

Okay they are similar. I havn't heard the original but everyone is sayin its sped up. There was probably some song before the Tom Petty one and when his appeared there was an outcry of plaigarism.

[gwitersnamps]

Yeah, but listen to the rhythm and where the guitar's bass notes are placed. That's a famous song. Even if they didn't take it on purpose, it may still be that song. I thought I wrote my best riff ever, and it turned out to be Social D's intro to Under My Thumb.

[euan_soad]

New I'd find something somewhere.

Funny...No one is mentioning that Petty's "mary jane's last dance" is a complete rip off of The Jayhawks song called, "Waiting for the Sun". Petty had the Jayhawks open for him in the early 90's and recorded "Mary Jane" years after The Jayhawks recorded "Waiting for the Sun".
If I were Petty, I wouldn't say a thing, because his version of that song sounds more identical to the Jayhawks, then the Peppers sound like Petty's ripped off song.

This was on the link under comments section.

[theDOORS123]

...i just listened to both to try and see the resemblance, but i cant hear it...

[BlueZephyr]

Fucking stupid shit. I know RHCP, more importantly Flea, would not plagarise.

[EternaL ReposE]

SO WHO CARES? The Offspring take a lot of riffs from Nirvana and changes them ever so slightly and nobody says anything and Tool makes up a riff for a song and ends up making a freakin' album(exaggeration)with the riff just altered a little bit.
--Tom Petty should sue RHCP's ass so I can watch it on the news and laugh my brains out!!

[genresrforposer]

It sounds pretty similar at first, but the vocals really show you the difference(which is true of A LOT of musuc).

And I'm pretty sure the Chilis would've pretty much figured the song would get compared to someone as well-known as Tom Petty had they plaigiarized.(this is especially unbelievable since Frusciante admitted to PURPOSELY paraphrasing Jimi Hendrix)

They are very similar but Petty's version's guitar sounds more..... I wanna say "broken"(not as in bad but with more space inbetween beats)

As for the girls and states thing? Ummmmm..... good for both of them they know facts of life even 3 year olds do?

And I'm not sure why(my God it's like the 90s, I did not expect these comments in the FUTURE two years ago) but I don't see how Tool fans think that their songs are so different.

Does anyone else think all Tool songs sound almost the same?

[Cliff_Hetfield]

The Cure's Tainted Love.

Soft Cell's Tainted Love.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

Does anyone else think all Tool songs sound almost the same?

Yes

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

it's a small world.

[HelpMeImHungry]

yeah, talk about 12 bar blues and see if you can throw a stone without hitting one song similar to another

[SlashIsGod091]

Experiences :
slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

Dude, Slash is the greatest guitarist of all time and i am damn glad that he has never changed his playing style! He found a style that is awesome and that works for him and he sticks to it and people keep listening to him. The only people who change their style are has-beens that nobody likes anymore so they try to change their style thinking it will bring back their popularity, and that will never happen to Slash!

[DanSumthing]

The two chord prgressions:

Tom Petty: Am, G, D, Am

RHCP: Am, G, Dm, Am

If you think these are the same, you are a musical idiot.

[NowTheWorld]

What's the big deal?
I got the impression Dani California was sort of a tribute to all the music the Chili's love... Wu-Tang drum beat, Hendrix solo riff... hell, the bloody video is just them paying homage to the great rock bands of the last 50 years! Does no one see the song as just a tribute to rock?

And for the record, speeding up the Tom Petty song to match Dani California is dishonest and just weakens his point. Trying to claim that two songs sharing similar (but not identical) chord progressions is plagiarism is retarded. Gotta wonder why the guy is a DJ, not a musician.

[MESAexplorer]

RHCP fans are worse than metallica fans, if someone says anything about Hammett not being the best guitarist ever, a metallica fan will shoot you, but if you don't like 1 RCHP song, or you think their stuff is too basic you get sodomized, and then shot.

[El Jordo]

hey MAYNARD...**** you! the chili's are one of the only bands now adays that obviously are not just in it for the money....they obviously want people to listen to better music than all this other shit that is on MTV. And **** whoever this Jared Morris guy is. He's just out there to cause shit. ...****

[El Jordo]

...and "the-misfit"...i dont no if you noticed but new music sucks ass. I dont see you trying to do anything about it. The chili's are. Go see them in concert yah dumb bitch

[pant weasel]

Hundreds of millions of other songs use the same chord progressions. Hell, they even teach that the I IV V chord progession is the most aesthetically pleasing in school. Get over it, dumbasses.

[we_all_rock]

wahts the big deal...lots of songs do sound the same

[Kaptain Bob]

I like how you can hear the terrible dischordance when the songs are played together on the mp3.

You wanna hear a ripoff? Sum 41's "The Bitter End" vocal pattern (and first lead guitar fill) is exactly like 'Tallica's "Battery"

[ThePhenom]

=ToM= wrote:

who gives a **** if they sound similar...
if we tell people to stop using similar chords we end up with... rap, which shouldn't even be called music...

AMEN

=ToM= wrote:

and those of you who hate the chillis, name 10 better bands who have released an album in the last 3 years...

Well... let me think about it... It's impossible

[ThePhenom]

RHCP rocks forever

[rps13fanatic]

RustedFox wrote:

"No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two.

Damn Straight!

[Live2Rock92]

RHCP may not be my favorite band...but those two sound hardly anything alike

[obey_yourmaster]

That radio station guy musta been bored

[SkinnyWhiteBoy]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

At least Frusciante is somewhat innovative and different. Slash has one role, and it's played out...

[Harbizzle]

It's a great chord. Petty would take it as a compliment.

[untouchable_TA]

MAYNARD wrote:

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

Dude u suck, changing your music to stay popular is called moving with the times. If RHCP still played the same stuff from BSSM era, i bet you would be bitching that all their shit is the same

[whiterabbit]

these songs may have almost the same chord progressions and drum beats but the vibe from dani california feels way different from the petty song

[rockmetal54]

who cares? even if the drums and bass sound a little alike. there both good songs. so it doesnt really matter.

[rhcpismylife18]

a lot of songs have this exact same chord progression its one of the most used ones...and i think that the dude is only accusing them of this for money b/c hes a greedy bitch...the songs have the same progression...but they didnt copy it exactly...

[Y2A 66]

It's not chord progressions that people notice..its the melody. That's the main factor as to why the songs sound so similar. It's definitely a bit of a ripoff

[slash_angus_VH]

the RHCP one is better, but they do sound very similar

[guitarfreakktb]

Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

nice...double negatives....
and who cares if they have the same progression..... if every band used only original chord proggressions,there would be no punk.....

[TURNIP]

the verse is the same but idk about the rest .... i dont have that much time on my hands to figure out ....the chorus is way differernt w/e people steal songs all the time and get away with it.

just make your songs to hard to play and no one can take them!

[TURNIP]

guitarfreakktb wrote:

Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

nice...double negatives....
and who cares if they have the same progression..... if every band used only original chord proggressions,there would be no punk.....

ha, nice

[Dr_Scott]

all you GunsnRoses lovin putzes need to listen a little more carefully. its rock not rocket science. The beat isn't even the same, much less the structures of the two songs as a whole. the effects used for the guitar in both songs were completely different and the way the songs were played were almost black and white. Everybody needs to CHILL. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the music. thats what it was intended for, not for us to try our damndest to find whats wrong it.

[cody wilson]

This guy is clearly a greedy, money-grubbing S.O.B who wanted to stir some shit because the Chilis are actually good. They're paying tribute with that song. They wanted it to be a song that would have a few different elements of a few of their favorite riffs. John talks about wanting to tribute Hendrix using the Purple Haze riff(which is only a simple pentatonic lick anyways,pentatonics have been played over and over and over). It's called "paying tribute". Watch the video you jack asses, and you'll get what the song's purpose is. The lyrical content is totally different. Anthony Kiedis clarified that the lyrics were about a few different girl friends of his all rolled into one. That's why he mentions all the different places and states and such and that's why it's about girls. The beat on the Petty song was speed up. Nice try idiot!

[GuitarGod610]

Tell that to someone who's song is getting ripped off that they worked to write

[Matty22]

If you listen to Dani California right cose to the solo its sounds alot like Purple Haze too

^^ Damn beaten to it

[RadioMuse]

LMAO. The Chili's are good but the fact is that they were great before they started ripping off Tom Petty songs with Hendrix solos and a determination to use every effects petal ever invented. Really now they're at their best when Frusciante and Flea wrap they're repective parts around eachother like in Californication. As for the new song I've never really gotten hooked on it because it lacks what makes the Chili's so awesome while leaving the punky attitude. Petty's exicution is completely different and comes off much cleaner and more real imo. But of course this is all pretty ironic since the first two Zeppelin albums ripped off a LOT of old blues tunes and pretty much everyone's done a cover of a Bob Dylan song. So maybe there's a little bit of copyright infringement there, I'm sure it wasn't intentional.

[Cmoney]

i don't get why this is a big deal no one cares about gay bads like green day stealing other peoples songs
Greed day could steal a entire chili's songs and half of mtv wouldn't know oh but wait you half to have some sort of skill to play there song

[cap'nkirk]

MarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords. And as mentioned in the broadcast, the drum beats and bass lines even match up. It sounds pretty fishy to me but who know except the Chili Peppers. We'll just have to wait and see how this one turns out.

Am, G, Dm... those are weird ass chords? Hell, it's one of the most common chord progressions in the history of music... let alone rock music.

Yeah, I can hear similarities... but, it happens all the time. 90% mainstream rock scene is a mirrored imagine of itself. 98% of rap is the same, and 99.9% of 'pop' music is the same... two good songs sound alike... big deal... let's talk about the 99% of the shitty stuff is the same...

[cap'nkirk]

also, I sort of doubt Tom Petty and the Peppers have anger issues that would drive this to become a real issue. Hell, maybe they'd go on tour together...

[Spyder-F16]

You have a limited number of notes... thusly a finite amount of things to do with them. There will undoubtedly songs that will end up with similiar characteristics. This tends to be the nature of music. There's only so many ways you can play a C-D-G progression.

[metal_thunder]

all you GunsnRoses lovin putzes need to listen a little more carefully. its rock not rocket science. The beat isn't even the same, much less the structures of the two songs as a whole. the effects used for the guitar in both songs were completely different and the way the songs were played were almost black and white. Everybody needs to CHILL. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the music. thats what it was intended for, not for us to try our damndest to find whats wrong it.

Amen brotha - all men play on

[windexman]

this shouldnt be that big of a deal, chord progressions are copied all the time, melodies, too, i think artists unintentionally do it, and there is no way you could prove they did it on purpose

[lwnovember]

wow i saw someone diss the great tom petty... and i want to step on their face

[Surrylic]

They sound weirdly similar, moreso than most songs that sound alike... But like I read a couple other people say, my vote goes to having heard the Tom Petty song, and just not realizing they recreated it. As for the lyrics, Chilli Peppers write about California (and therefore states in general) on a regular basis. When I heard the name of that song I was about as far from suprised as one could be. That and it's also about a girl. MY GOD! These two songs are both about GIRLS!??! That's insane!! Who writes songs about girls anymore? Oh right, EVERYONE. Amazing!

[rockgodgeorge]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

hey I like slash and RHCP stop blasting someone just because he doesnt like your music. You cant expect everyone to love what you love and hate what you hate. Even if he doesnt like a band that I love (RHCP) I dont care coz I probably hate some bands he likes as well! Oh yeah and I dont know the song that they say RHCP copied it from so...shrugs. btw stadium arcadium rocks.

[SocKo?]

dont bash the chili's when you don't know them.

readymade sounds like jane's addiction? guess who the chili's toured with and are really good pals with. dave navaro, jane's addiction's guitarist.

pearl jam does hav some extended solos, but guess what, when they just came about they opened for the chili's, lots.

frusciante came from an era where hendrix was king, of course he'd be influenced by it.

kiedis writes about girls and states all the time, around the world, californication, scar tissue, under the bridge to some extent.

drum beat? it is the one most commonly used drum beat ever.

a long time ago, until around when mtv came about, artists weren't scrutinized when they did something similar, but respected. even in classical music, you will find similarities. we all listen to music, we all learn from what we listen, and we choose what to make of it. that is what makes our unique styles.

lastly, the chili peppers aren't stagnant, nor are they sell outs. compare the shift between their 4 major albums (imo), bssm, californication, by the way, and stadium arcadium. in each, you have 4 distinctly different styles, but you still have the essence of the chili peppers in each. bands change, ppl change, its expected, but some things dont change.

lastly, seriously now, the chili's planned to release 3 albums consecutively, but thought that woudl take far too long, and would have even more albums ready by then, so they settled on 1 double album, and thus, stadium arcadium.

[Church!]

Experiences wrote:

This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

yeah,about that when was the last time you played guitar for one fo the greatest rock bands of all time huh? when was that, never, if you think they suck so bad its a small following of GnR haters i can tell you that, sweet child of mine was one of the first songs i learned, GnR rocks b/c of slash no cuz of tommy hilfiger-fightin axl rose

[Church!]

there is that one solo artist guy that has the same intro as an STP song

[Lund27J]

F

MarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords.

These aren't weird ass chords. They are simple chords all guitarist know, and if you dont, you're retarded.

afortuneinlies wrote:

oh and on another note(my apologies for the double post) how about the similarites between boulevard of broken dreams and that tonic song "if you could only see" ? that little guitar melody fill thing...there's like...one different note

How bout even better... Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Oasis-Wonderwall! The radio station in Atlanta combined the songs and they sound badass, yet totally the same when u listen to the guitar progression.

This is stupid. Music will forever be copied and re-done, influences will be found in every modern band. How many times can Nirvana be found in songs? exactly, so who cares.

[kushini]

wooooaaaaah!! pretty damn similar!! but who cares!! chillie peppers r great!!

[King ofKumbucha]

hahah Losers. Mr Bungle disserved WAY more fame than these guys and they shut them down because they came alog and established themselves a little sooner. Screw RHCP

[wabusy33]

morelloman19 wrote:

obviously no one knows that Frusciante used his influences from the 60s to the 80s on this album. this was probably on purpose. did no one notice how the main riff in the solo is purple haze in a different key?

Yeah I noticed it, I mentioned in an above post that there's this one song that sounds like purple haze or some other hendrix song so I guess danti californa was the song I meant.

[DohntA]

how about we admire the bands for actually making it in the music buisness and playing songs that people want to hear, how about you no hopers here who all you have time to do is bitch about bands that are successful and at any chance bag them out. I bet if it was any other band all you guys would be doing exactly the same thing. Bands rip off other riffs all the time, whether intentional or not. Has anyone heard my sharona and the new rogue traders song? It happens all the time. Stop bitching about it and maybe write your own stuff and make it big, then we can bitch about you. Get used to it.

[DohntA]

and the chili peppers rule by the way

[wabusy33]

You know what I even hate more than bands ripping off other bands? Bands ripping off themselves, lol yeah I'm not joking. Audioslave ripped themselves off. Listen to the main riff of cochise it sounds almost the exact same as the riff on your time has come. I even looked at the tabs for both songs and the only difference was that an extra note was added at the end of the riff for your time has come. Yeah, but I like both songs, so I shouldn't be bitching about it, I thought I should just point that out. At least when you rip yourself off, no one can sue you, however it makes it look like your band is running out of ideas when they rip themselves off. Actually how can a band rip themselves off? I'm a dumb***, lol

[Johnothan_k]

well even if RHCP coppied off Tom Petty, they played it better that he ever did.

[euan_soad]

Yeh you are.

Lund27J wrote:

FMarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords.


These aren't weird ass chords. They are simple chords all guitarist know, and if you dont, you're retarded.

afortuneinlies wrote:

oh and on another note(my apologies for the double post) how about the similarites between boulevard of broken dreams and that tonic song "if you could only see" ? that little guitar melody fill thing...there's like...one different note


How bout even better... Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Oasis-Wonderwall! The radio station in Atlanta combined the songs and they sound badass, yet totally the same when u listen to the guitar progression.

Yeh but the capo in BBOBD is at fret 1. In Wonderwall the capo is at fret 2. Not that I'm backing Green Day they suck.

[DohntA]

plus this article is not about slash or GnR anyway

[costa]

there are only so many beats and progressions out there of course they come up more than once. How many different songs have G-D-C-Em for a chorus????

[costa]

besides mabye it was deiberate which would kinda link up with the music video's whole idea

[shut_up_you_***]

Damn... it really does sound like it!

Madonna was succesfully sued for her song "Frozen". I wouldn't be surprised is this becomes a sucessful suit.

Stuff like that does happen. But I still love the Chili Peppers.

[Stratocaster_21]

I couldn't care less about them sounding the same. There are millions and probably billions of songs in the world. People are bound to stumble across the same progression. If you take a look at the common Am F C G proggression. It has been used by every punk pop band in the world. Not to mention its popularity in other genres. As for the people who bag the RHCP out it doesnt bother me. Its your opinion an i respect that

[Walternativo]

Isnt it only illegal if they meant for the songs to sound similair? Theres gonna have to be proof that the peppers nicked it.

[HurricaneSG]

rhcp said theirselves that the song got a beat like 'sweet home alabama'

[tommilee]

the only thing that slightly resembles the song is the guitaring thats it!

[Stratocaster_21]

gwitersnamps wrote:

Yeah, but listen to the rhythm and where the guitar's bass notes are placed. That's a famous song. Even if they didn't take it on purpose, it may still be that song. I thought I wrote my best riff ever, and it turned out to be Social D's intro to Under My Thumb.

Dude if you came up with that riff then use it cause it is an awesome riff from a great band!

[horazonblade]

Well I mean, technically the Peppers are bass strumming the chords, and its a freaking 4 chord progression, I am sure hundereds of songs share the same prgression, even in diff keys. Now, the lyrics, it cant be a rip-off, that style is who he usually sings (usually except for his singles) that rapping style (ex: Sex Rap, Right on Time, Magic Johnson) and he always puts states or cities in his lyrics (usually california or hollywood), the only thing that surprises me is the similar momma and poppa lyrics near the beggining.

[Shorrock]

its similer but who cares. it always happen that song that came out a few years ago that sounded just for lust for life.

[[NIN]_ROCK!]

so what?They're still a great band!

[rhcp_s]

why would the chili pepprs copy someone when they are capable of making 28 songs in an album?????
I mean if they copied them why would they relese it as their first single of the album??
An for those who are sayin chili's aren't original and shit .. comon guys look at the album, 28 songs

[tasty licks]

Its amazing to me that nobody cares about the endless amount of songs out there that use the same chord progression or strum pattern until an album sells a few hundred thousand copies. Then everyone jumps on the hate bandwagon and tries to invalidate any of the band's accomplishments. Dont people have anything better to do? Let Tom Petty worry about it, as if he cares.

And if you don't like RHCP, you can show them up by pioneering a new genre too and putting out a few multi-platinum albums of your own... or not.

[Defunkt]

Yeah this guy i know pretty much wrote "seven nation army" by the white stripes before it even came out, it happens and by the way its only the verse in these 2 songs that are the same.

[caz360]

i think a band as good as they say they are should'nt be copying others musisand i dont think they sould be given credit for it either.

[shotgunjoe]

Tom Petty would have heard it and commented on it by now if he really gave a crap, I wouldn't give a crap apart from if Green Day stole my riff, I wrote the riff to Wake Me Up When September Ends except with a cooler progression thingey, then Green Day asked me if they could use it and I was like "NO WAY YOU MONKEYBALLS." and they were like "Well we'll use it anyway." and they made it simpler and more crappy. OK I don't know Green Day (for which I am happy) but they stole my riff and made it crap. But if it was the RHCP then I wouldn't care. Theres my rant for today, thanks for listening...

[SK8DWITBAM]

This is a total disgrace the chilis used to ba above all of this they did their own thing, and then they go and ruin it all by plagorism. Having played the guitar, bass and drums for over ten years i have the authority to say that thanks to this act, the chilis need to sort their act out or just quit all together. My good friend caz will agree with me that plagorism is totally wrong especially within the music industry where it is so visible to the public. I am both angry and appalled with this act made by the chilis and i would advise everyone that i know not to listen to them ever again.

[beau05]

i hate how commercialism has to determine the route music has to be made, radio stations should just play the sh*t. "music" plagirism (in the form of chord progessions and so forth) have been going on for years, whether that partiular record is platinun or not shouldnt matter not, whether the "music" is good or not is most important

[Logz]

spam checked

[Inkee]

I'm pretty sure that you can't copyright a chord progression, so how Tom Petty will get anything out of this I don't know...

It's just a coincidence that they are similar.

[Miegol]

Pretty Freaky :P

[JD89]

SK8DWITBAM wrote:

This is a total disgrace the chilis used to ba above all of this they did their own thing, and then they go and ruin it all by plagorism.

You can't really say that as no-one is sure if they meant it or not....i think things get blown out of proportion way too much nowadays. This article hasn't changed my opinion of RHCP one bit. I think they are still one of the best bands around.

[Al the grunger]

The Chillis are gettin too good at this

Listen to dirty frank by pearl jam

You'll know what I'm talking about

[Stratocaster_21]

SK8DWITBAM wrote:

This is a total disgrace the chilis used to ba above all of this they did their own thing, and then they go and ruin it all by plagorism. Having played the guitar, bass and drums for over ten years i have the authority to say that thanks to this act, the chilis need to sort their act out or just quit all together. My good friend caz will agree with me that plagorism is totally wrong especially within the music industry where it is so visible to the public. I am both angry and appalled with this act made by the chilis and i would advise everyone that i know not to listen to them ever again.

It is more likely to be a coincidence. So dont say stuff like that

[Craigo]

buried_a_lie :
there are loads of songs that have the same chord progression (listen to nirvana) that doesnt mean they are plagiarised

You can tell he hasn't listened to the original.

[GNR3]

i remember listening to a song from listen like thieves and my friend noticed there was a song on by the way that sounded exaclty identical,it makes me wonder if artists listen to other artists when they run out of ideas and try to change it just a bit so no one will notice

[geetarguy92]

people lets just leave it at this.
both songs rule sound a little bit like each other BUT WHO THE HELL CARES!?!?!
not me

[GNR3]

ya it shouldnt ruin your life,maybe theirs if they get in trouble,its more entertaining and funny more then anything whether its true or not,i personaly didnt like the song not that its horrible just the content seemed dated back to californiacation

[Rodders]

Jesus Christ?? Two songs?? Sounding similar??? Never?? It's not a perfectly original chord progression??? Fuckin' hell....The drum beat isn't completely new?? It can't be....the Red Hot Chili Peppers, a truly original band that have been going for twenty years with a loyal fanbase and one of the most widely recognised bands in the world, must have stolen this song. There's no way this could be a coincidence.....!!

[richardm80]

I wouldn't say they are identical but they are kind of similar. I doubt it will come to anything. Listen to Tom Petty's song 'American Girl' and the start of the Strokes song 'Last Night', I think they sound the almost the same. For anyone that hasn't heard much Tom Petty they should go out and buy his greatest hits. He is awesome!

[chhang]

that petty track has been speeded up so it fits in time with dani.

[musicfreak003]

they should get sued :p oh yea they spelled something wrong (the, instead of teh)

[audiorapist]

in the chillies defence, it is quite a popular chord progression. at first i thought the chord prog from dani california sounded a lot like sittin waiting wishin from jack johnson. but if they did copy, they should go down for it, doesnt seem very chillies like however

[Yassine]

no one complained about remedy (by seether) sounding the same as come as you are

[Yassine]

untouchable_TA wrote:

MAYNARD wrote:

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily


Dude u suck, changing your music to stay popular is called moving with the times. If RHCP still played the same stuff from BSSM era, i bet you would be bitching that all their shit is the same

thats bullshit rhcp arent over rated
if anything theyre under rated the most over rated band ever is probably greenday

[magimintage]

Green Day Isn't overrated! They just sold out. Now that I've heard this Tom Petty song, I must say, this is a petty crime (oh snap a pun.) But seriously, they sound nothing similar to me, and even if it is plagairised, RHCP did a much better job of making a song sound good.

[Al the grunger]

F-Ups Lazy Generation

American Idiot- Greenday

[Polx666]

I dont think its a coincedince, Chilis are an amzing band but they do rip some people off and Even FLEA admitted to it in an issue of kerrang or some magazine a while back,

Theres a Jeff buckley song (cant remember the name) that the intro is perfectly the same as Cant stop so I think the Chilis might just have used tom pettys song,.....but in the long run made it better,

[f1sk]

its funny because when i first listened to dani california i thought it sounded familiar and it took me about a minute to remember mary janes last dance, but i do not think they are the same and i would not call it plagarism, i bet that the peppers noticed it did when they made it

[ChocolateElvis]

These two songs follow a very similar chord progressoin and are similar in other respects. If it wasn't for the fact that RHCP are corporate *****s with big lawyers they would be in the shit for this. Same chord prog is one this - same beat, melody and lyrical themes - sorry guys RHCP could loose face over this. They need to explain what happened. Flaming Lips got in trouble for Fight Test sounding like Father & Son but this is even more apparent. People who can't hear the marked similarity can't be musicians - or maybe their just tome deaf! I like the chili's and don't think they ripped it off - could be subconscious, but that wouldn't save you or me from being sued for lifting their riffs in such a manner.

[bassetrox]

Oh this is soo funny, I'm not a big fan as a rule, but a mate of mine said "check out the new one, its quite good". Just wait till i tell her.

[bassetrox]

Also, the Stones succesfully sued richard ashcroft for use of a string part on bittersweet symphony. The verve lost £100% of the singles sales. Methinks Petty has a much better right to renumeration

[ChocolateElvis]

Some people point out there are only 12 notes in western music and it is true that everything will eventually sound a bit like something else. But this is surely another level of similarity. Nice to see all the hardcore RHCP fans going temporarily tome deaf to minimise this tho.... I'm sure nothing will come of it, but it is very interesting.

[bassetrox]

=ToM= wrote:

who gives a **** if they sound similar...
if we tell people to stop using similar chords we end up with... rap, which shouldn't even be called music...

Lol, fair comment. You should check out the furore i caused on

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/korn_to_perform_hip-hop_a
coustic_songs.html

by expressing similar opinions.

[Hairy Henry]

Whats the big deal, there is probably hundreds of songs (Including those that didnt get "Big") that have the same chord proggression. I was going to point out some songs that were very similar but I wouldbe here all day listing them!

[DaBlackE]

Bottom line is you cannot patent a chord progression. Otherwise Green Day & Bush would've had a problem in the early 90s

[MAYNARD]

jiminizzle wrote:

HOLY SHIT!
Maynard you are the most ignorant guy ever
this is RHCP! the guys who sold hyde park for the highest grossing single venue concert event of all time!
OVERRATED?!!?
They are the real deal
the guys who walked across abbey road with nothing on but socks are not creative? The bands you listed arent even that good. this has happened before and you and all the other antiRHCP people can go screw themselves because they are just sad that they can't make it big like the chilis. And they are in it for the money? please. they are the only band left that still cares about the music.

and thats what its all about in the end-- the music

Every member of those other 3 bands is better at their respective craft than any of the Chili Peppers, besides maybe Flea.

I dont think you know what you are talkin about. Highest grossing single concert?

All you sheep wanna pretend that RHCP are a band that plays for the love of music. You can see it in their eyes that they are want the cash.

How is walking across Abbey Road original? Thousands of people have done that. RHCP blow,and itsa sham all you people cant see it.

[nirvana4lf]

wow chill out guys

but anyways, i doubt rhcp actually did this on purpose, it happens sometimes. i remeber one time i wrote a riff on guitar and then this song came out with the same exact riff in the chorus. its just by chance.

[Razeon]

It could just be a coincidense, like...I've heard the song, but I've never listened to any of Tom Petty's stuff. Do RHCP even associate with Tom Petty? Why now, after all the years they've been doing music, would they plagiarize something now? I say meh...Who cares.

[Razeon]

And if Rap can do it, why can't rock? LoL

[jsav4589]

towards the end of dani california the guitar riff sounds like purple haze by hendrix too

[greenday_alk3]

ShootToThrill wrote:

in the solo of dani california theres bits that sound like purple haze.

Yeah, in Guitar World John Frusciante said he did that on purpose but changed the 4th note in it.
I like both songs, but Dani California rocks way harder and I love the Chili Peppers to death so Im gonna have to favor them in this round.

[Bitter_peace_6]

haha damn that is pretty much Mary Janes Last Dance...i thought Dani California sounded familiar lol their new album is alright, not my favorite but it's still respectable.

[Rubin Remus]

Mary Janes Last Dance + Sweet Home Alabama = Dani California.

RHCP are so dull anyway!

[punkrocker_336]

thats bull **** who cares i mean i like tom petty and rhcp but seriously does anyone here really care that much?

[War-Ensemble]

Rubin Remus :
Mary Janes Last Dance + Sweet Home Alabama = Dani California.

RHCP are so dull anyway!

wel tht wasnt a very smart comment at all ,who th f-- cares anyway chilis r much better than tom petty

[Andras5soul]

sucks to find out something like this about a band that though isnt one of my favorites, i had great respect for. if you guys only knew how much Iron Maiden ripped off unknown european rockopera bands. AH, I guess theres only so much creativity in the human mind.

[wabusy33]

shotgunjoe wrote:

Tom Petty would have heard it and commented on it by now if he really gave a crap, I wouldn't give a crap apart from if Green Day stole my riff, I wrote the riff to Wake Me Up When September Ends except with a cooler progression thingey, then Green Day asked me if they could use it and I was like "NO WAY YOU MONKEYBALLS." and they were like "Well we'll use it anyway." and they made it simpler and more crappy. OK I don't know Green Day (for which I am happy) but they stole my riff and made it crap. But if it was the RHCP then I wouldn't care. Theres my rant for today, thanks for listening...

Ha, that's funny, Greenday comes out with a hit song and it's not even their riff, that shows how much they suck, they can't even come up with their own riffs.

[Vedder]

ya i just listened to it, main riff is kinda similiar, not enough to warrant plagiarism, and like i said, no lyrical similarites really.

[newbe guitarist]

well, i mean, many ppl rip off riffs or melodies of other artists and make it better, take bullet for my valentines for instance (

[Captain Cool]

I think the Chillis have run out of ideas for original songs, their just miking every last dollar out of their careers possible at the moment.

Also did anyone else think that the Dani California vido made them seem a bit cocky comparing themselves to the likes of the Beatles and Hendrix. I was a Chilis fan but from what ive heard about theri new album I'm not even gonna bother listening to it.

[Guitar_Poet]

x_rox wrote:

lead teh Billboard
bit of 1337 for UG there :P
They are similar but not identical. Loads of chord progression and lyrical topics are the same but are they all plagiarised? I think not.

i think the deal here is that, sure, many chord progressions and lyrical topics are the same... but how often does it all happen in the same song? meaning... how often does one band come out with a song that is supposedly theirs, although it sounds almost EXACTLY like another song, maybe with different words?

[wabusy33]

falloutbass wrote:

If neither of them comment, then neither of them give a s**t!!! Yeah they sound simmalar, but Dani California you can make out the chords because they don't sound like crap! The lyrics in Dani California are orginal, so that cant be questioned, It's not word for word. OOOhh, they have the same lyrical theme, ya and do so many other songs f***ing doushe bag. And just in general them being simialar it's called 'inspration'!!! They sound like shit together! So don't f**king whine!! And for all you RHCP haters go f**k your self you f**king s**ts!!! They have some of the best players in the world! One name, Flea. Thats my proof, Flea, he's the best basssist in the world, not Mike Dirnt, not the guy from Korn!! Nobody is better than Flea.

Final Thoughts I noticed all the haters like heavy metal, well any one can play fast there gutarists arn't creative so f**k of(with the exeption of Randy
Rhodes)!!!!!

Flea is a good bass player but he's far from best. There's alot of better bass players like Geddy Lee, Cliff Burton, Geezer Butler, Lemmy, but I think the best would have to be John Paul Jones. I'm not a fan of RHCP and I like metal and I just want to say that some of the best guitarists out there play metal so you don't know sh*t. Guys like Zakk Wylde, Tony Iommi, Dave Mustaine and Dimebag Darrell come almost as close to Hendrix as it gets. The guitarist off RHCP is okay but nowhere close to the people that I mentioned.

[forsaknazrael]

greenday_alk3 wrote:

ShootToThrill wrote:

in the solo of dani california theres bits that sound like purple haze.
Yeah, in Guitar World John Frusciante said he did that on purpose but changed the 4th note in it.
I like both songs, but Dani California rocks way harder and I love the Chili Peppers to death so Im gonna have to favor them in this round.

Yeah, it's actually a very common thing to do tributes like that.
Composer often "quote" old songs, even of other composers, as homage.
Check out alot of modern composers stuff.

On another note (No pun intended) , in regards to Tom Petty and RHCP - Can't you hear that little itty bitty change? It's not the same.

[scottishbass123]

it could have been one of those things like you here or see somthing then accidentily copy it.

[okayplayer]

damn theres alot of quotes on here RHCP ****in rule they are awesome with the funk

[FlyingFuc!<]

it's funny b/c when i played that song on guitar my friend said "dude that's that tom petty song!" and now look...damn my friend's a genius!

[Cedric]

On audio commentary for Stadium even the Peppers mention the Alabama thing. I have also used 8 of the 12 notes (in chord form) in a recent song so if the rest of you could please refrain from using those notes it would be greatly appreciated

[apparition]

The Tom Petty song is sped up alot. It sounds horrible in the comparison.

[coopertempleman]

They have some of the best players in the world! One name, Flea. Thats my proof, Flea, he's the best basssist in the world

I love the Chili Peppers, but this comment is pretty stupid. Two words:
Victor Wooten.

Anyway, the Chili Peppers have been creating good, original music for years now. Why would they suddenly go "You know what, **** this, we can just use other peoples' songs"? They're dedicated musicians, and anyone who says they're in it for the money is clearly just ignorant.

[greenday_alk3]

stutor wrote:

the reds hot chilling pipers is the best bands ever i love calicorniafaction erspecially the song on the bridge fleas guirrtar on thats song is brillernt. those guys is like young type but also age too which is real rad and stuff and their musics is good for listerning whern im in the shower with the dog he likes it some too but like tinkds sometimegs thats its tripe. me like good band chilling yes1!!

Excuse me,Huh? What? I didn't get a word of that. Anyway, Dani California is way better than Mary Jane but Tom Petty still rocks, he's the man

[JunctionP]

MarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords. And as mentioned in the broadcast, the drum beats and bass lines even match up. It sounds pretty fishy to me but who know except the Chili Peppers. We'll just have to wait and see how this one turns out.

theyre not wierd ass chords, theyre major and minor, no one can copyright major and minor chords.

[mulletino heat]

this is total crap.the chord progresion may be the same but its a different rythmn.the lyrics melody may be the same but different lyrics.wats the problem?
plus lookin at above comments,the red hot chili peppers are one of the biggest an best bands in the world with the best bassist an one of the best guitarists,and slash is awesome but nothin compared to john

[mercedesisbenz]

mulletino heat wrote:

this is total crap.the chord progresion may be the same but its a different rythmn.the lyrics melody may be the same but different lyrics.wats the problem?
plus lookin at above comments,the red hot chili peppers are one of the biggest an best bands in the world with the best bassist an one of the best guitarists,and slash is awesome but nothin compared to john

you know nothing.
for bassists check out victor wooten, stu hamm, jeff berlin, tony levin.
for guitarists check out steve vai, joe satriani, eric johnson, yngwie malmsteen, etc.


I called this the first time i heard the chili peppers song. It amazes me they thought they could get away with releasing someone elses song. Come on, even the lyrical themes are the same.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

for bassists check out victor wooten, stu hamm, jeff berlin, tony levin.
for guitarists check out steve vai, joe satriani, eric johnson, yngwie malmsteen, etc.

What about Marcus Miller and Chris Wolstenholme? How about someone that sin't a shredder? Tom Morello, Matt Bellamy, Jade Puget, The guys from Iron Maiden. Just because they can do great solos at unbelievable speeds, doesn't mean they are Elite Guitarists. I like shred but it ain't best stuff.

I called this the first time i heard the chili peppers song. It amazes me they thought they could get away with releasing someone elses song. Come on, even the lyrical themes are the same.

So it's about a chick that was featured in two other songs? And like I said before, "Since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?" If they are illegal then Then SOAD should be sueing Green Day for making songs about Politics.

[Arkane]

forty-six_and_2 wrote:

Arkane wrote:

yea but who cares really...the chilli peppers are allowed to get away with it. They might have done it purposely, they said in a guitarworld interview that they used a few classic rock riffs in this album.
Oh get a ****ing life. If it was Tom Petty who plagerized the song you'd all be bitching about it and flaming Tom Petty. The RHCP have too many fan boys. They plagerized it and it's shameful. Admit it.

sorry but chord progressions cant ever be plagerized...and all i was saying was that i read an interview where they even said that they intentionally used riffs from older songs to add a different vibe to their music. What the ****s your problem? why argue with me when you dont really have a point to make...

[hehepupitre]

Who the hell cares honestly? You can't claim chord patterns. Basic drum patterns are used all the f***king time. No one accuses them of plagiarism. Secondly There ARE basic chords on guitar. Everyone knows em. You cant take the most basic chords and claim them as your own. And even if they did copy the song, who the hell cares, it sounds good. All musicians have inspiration for beats and lyrics and youre bullshitting me if you tell me you dont get ideas from songs youve heard.

[DoctorFu]

Cliff_Hetfield wrote:

So it's about a chick that was featured in two other songs? And like I said before, "Since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?" If they are illegal then Then SOAD should be sueing Green Day for making songs about Politics.

It's the same lyric melody not the same lyrical theme.

[euan_soad]

Ha, that's funny, Greenday comes out with a hit song and it's not even their riff, that shows how much they suck, they can't even come up with their own riffs.

Funny actually, Stars by Nazareth sounds exactly like wake me up with 1 added note. And whoever said Lazy Generation sounds like American Idiot is completly wrong it sounds nothing like it. Oh and mercedesisbenz you should have included Steve Harris in bassists.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

DoctorFu wrote: It's the same lyric melody not the same lyrical theme.

Well then someone should put that up so people won't get confused, don't ya think?

[bullsonparade89]

isnt this just a waste of time who reaLLY gives a ****!!!

[Farewellmyhell]

ok, maybe they ARE similar, but has anyone else noticed that John Frusciante's solo on "Dani California" starts off with the main riff from "purple haze" just in a different key. I dont see what the big deal is here. Rappers sample others work constantly. Hell they even borrowed Crazy Train. I dont see why everyone is getting all worked up aobut this. Perhaps it was John was just showing his roots

[lukef]

I love RHCP but its obviously a rip off. listen to the vocals. you can't deny that

[dimebag7]

devoutly wished for blinded eyes i see. Fucking chilli teppers, petty should sue there asses.

[Biased_Bassist]

I agree, everything is so similar. Petty is a good guy and doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would give a damn. "dan_the_pie" has a damn good point.

[Beansontoast]

oh dear

[Broelke4]

If somebody were to record a song similar to something I recorded I would take it as a compliment.

[smileyface]

Well lets see....of course it doesn't take a whole lot to have the same chord progression (what are they in this case, like Am G D or something?) and you could turn an identical chord progression into a hundred different songs if you wanted to because, well, there are many different elements that make up music. If there were not so there wouldn't really be much to write about, everything would pretty mych have been done. However, this case is an exception to this. In my opinion this is a blatant rip-off. I think the chilis are great too, but that doesnt excuse them from anything. It sounds like the same song with the exception of the chorus. Specifically, the rap-rock vocals. Ripping other artists off is cheap and self-degrading. I think you need to be a songwriter to understand.....

[guitar_lvr]

Broelke4 wrote:

If somebody were to record a song similar to something I recorded I would take it as a compliment.

yea, butthat similar? i would be pissed, but i dont think that the chilis meant to, just a coincidence.

[SocKo?]

"The chord progression, the melody, the tempo, the key, the lyrical theme... they're identical.

the chord progression isn't really the same, the melody isnt really teh same, notice the harmonica and scratches, the tempo isnt the same, the lyrical theme isnt the same either, the chorus isnt similar whatsoever, the bridges, the solos.

how the hell can you say these 2 songs are similar? it doesnt even feel the same, not to mention flea plays a million times better than tom petty's bassist.

[Skathe_665]

Did any one happen to think that just maybe RHCP did take it from Tom Petty. I mean look at the video, they change to different bands, why not use some chord progressions that have already been used. And even if they did, what's the big deal? I mean hell, it's hard to come up with a progression of chords now-a-days, that hasn't already been used. So this radio guy who is accusing RCHP needs to just shut the hell up.

[hepzibahbaptist]

i agree with skathe_665
people are going to have to deal with similar songs anyway
you cant have thoudsands of years of music and not have a song that sounds the same

[Logz]

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[sk8ermack4444]

I have been an RHCP fan pretty much my whole life. But I am not very impressed by this new stadium arcadium. Maybe its just because its overplayed. I mean come on, as I was typing this, it came on the radio. No joke.

As for the plagiarism shtuff, uhh... here we go. Another Queen-Vanilla Ice debate. Just... stop complaining. Maybe they are plagiarists (if that's a word). Just go on with your life and stop your bitching.

[jof1029]

Logz:
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man, we musta been going through this at the same time. ok, there are a lot of comments here and it takes us forever to read them, so im warning anyone who double posts.

my view, is that while it sounds similar, they dont sound identical. that clip is basicly going on the chord progression and a similar rhythm, which is possible to be coincidence. until one artist or the other issues some sort of statement, not much can really be done except guess.

[Briteless]

Look at Lust for Life by Iggy Pop, and Are You Gonna Be My Girl by Jet. Very similar riff, very similar.

[ANGERisaGIFT]

I'd like to also appeal for a filter that deletes any comment that lacks punctation.

I think people need to examine the song as a whole, rather than just a single verse. I don't see too much of a similarity in the vocals, or at least not any copying. If it's the same chord progression, the vocal range won't be too much different. They are professional musicians, after all.

[The_Figgy]

Stairway to Heaven by Led Zep and taurus by spirit have same riff and what about all the other I/IV/V progressions.

Music is music and its always your own no matter what YOU play.

[redhotsexmagic]

yeea this whole article can suck my nuts...dani california is a sickkkk song and these ***** bags just want to make money off it somehow.

[ledzepprules09]

I vote that they sound similar, but I don't think it's exact, or that the Chilis meant for that to happen. We'' just have to wait to see what Petty thinks, if he doesn't care then Why does any of this matter.

[slashrocks5]

[Experiences :
slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?
] slash is numba one

[SeptembersChild]

First, they sped up the tempo to Mary Janes First Dance in the MP3. The chords sound horrible together, so their not in the same key. Their are countless songs with that same chord progression so who cares if Chili Peppers did it to, and if lyrics are differant words then it's unique. Just cause it's the same lyrical theme doesn't mean anything ( once again i could name countless songs with the same lyrical theme ). I Love both of these songs, they are both some of my alltime favorite songs. This radio guy is a complete idiot though. He's just a guy who wanted to gain publicity for himself and/or his radio station, and the fact that he tuck so much time making his little MP3 thing that was supposed to prove his point, and then changes a songs tempo in order to prove just shows how much of a bullshi**** he is. And even so, let's say all the crap that he said was true (it isn't), we still got to look at what the Chili Peppers came up with by themselves, The guitar part during the part where it's like, "She never relized their was anything more than poor" was not even close to anything in Mary Jane's Last Dance. The solo at the end, the chorus, the amazing bass parts, the guitar part after the first chorus, and the lyrics. I don't care what you say, if you've came up with that much stuff by yourself in your song, it was not ripped off of anything. And by the Mr. Jared Morris (radio idiot), IT'S NOT YOUR CALL TO SAY IF TOM PETTYS SONG WAS PLEDGERIZED, IT'S TOM PETTYS.

[slashrocks5]

Stairway to Heaven by Led Zep and taurus by spirit have same riff and what about all the other I/IV/V progressions.

Music is music and its always your own no matter what YOU play.

stairway and taurus arent the same riff.

[chr1stianr0cker]

Covin wrote:
To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

lol, ya it reminded me of sweet home alabama too. how many songs have that chord progression anyway? good grief. if you think about it, its not like the chilis are gonna come up with a nother chord progression anyway. by this point in history, the good ones are taken.

[leeroymo]

RHCP's version was better....

[chr1stianr0cker]

oh and the part where tom is singing about indiana while anthony is talking mississippi/alabama is quite strange...

[slashrocks5]

the peppers are one of my favorite bands but you i have to admit that they sound the almost identical

[Logz]

jof1029 wrote:
man, we musta been going through this at the same time. ok, there are a lot of comments here and it takes us forever to read them, so im warning anyone who double posts.

*laughs* yea. The comments come on too fast though

[SeptembersChild]

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore

Hey MAYNARD, just so you know, THEY JUST MADE A 28 SONG CD. I think they are doing just fine coming up with new songs.

[vietnow_96]

i bet this will be their last

[TheforumTroll]

MAYNARD, I'm assuming you are a fan of the band Tool. I mean, I like tool, but no Tool fan should EVER accuse the RHCP of sounding the same in every song, and not being able to come up with new music since basicly every tool song sounds the same. If you honestly think this, you're just one of those losers that live with thier parents until they are 35, wear dragon T-shirts and automatically hate anything thats popular. Tool is pretty popular... You'll have to resent them soon.


Also, the song sounds similiar and the RHCP may have taken it from Petty's song, but its in a different key, in a different tempo, they both have very basic drumbeats and basslines, and the chord progression is not the same. The lyrical melody is also different, and if the RHCP somehow got sued for this, the Kansas City Royals will win the world series.

[f1sk]

Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

so both of the bands have commented then...

[Kedith333]

I think what happened is purely coincidence. It may be an act of the subconcience, or however you spell it. The song was in the back of their mind when the chili peppers wrote it, and they thought they were coming up with their own riff.

[rhcpismylife18]

if u wanna see what really is plagerized....listen to good old crazy town...and their song butterfly...its the exact same riff from the chilis pretty little ditty...now thats plagerism...this is not

[Marx P]

Maybe its a homage.

[groll01]

i find it funny most of the ppl sticking up for rhcp are probably the ppl that bag bands like jet and wolfmother haha

btw: i like rhcp

[el57]

MAYNARD, I'm assuming you are a fan of the band Tool. I mean, I like tool, but no Tool fan should EVER accuse the RHCP of sounding the same in every song, and not being able to come up with new music since basicly every tool song sounds the same. If you honestly think this, you're just one of those losers that live with thier parents until they are 35, wear dragon T-shirts and automatically hate anything thats popular. Tool is pretty popular... You'll have to resent them soon.


Also, the song sounds similiar and the RHCP may have taken it from Petty's song, but its in a different key, in a different tempo, they both have very basic drumbeats and basslines, and the chord progression is not the same. The lyrical melody is also different, and if the RHCP somehow got sued for this, the Kansas City Royals will win the world series.

Wow you need to get off their nuts. They're not gods... and mainstream music sucks although Tool and RHCP are some of the only tolerable mainstream bands

[coldsteel]

I haven't heard the Tom Petty song he is talking about but that chord progression in the chorus is the same one Frusciante uses in many songs, notably Scar Tissue.

Ok after looking around I did just find something where some one overlayed Dani California with the Mary Jane's Last Dance. It actually does sound incredibly similar, similar tempo etc. I wasn't able to hear the chorus riff, from the Tom Petty song, I will have to track that down. The ways the lyrics are delivered are similar as well but it still sounds like classic Kiedis in Dani California.

I know that its hard coming up with original songs and often you subliminally recreate a riff or something from another band. Normally though I have something in the back of my mind telling me I have heard it and seek it out and generally find it and scrap the idea. This is a bid different again as the whole song is extremely similar.

It would be interesting to know if it was done blatantly or subconsciously. Maybe the whole thing about the wu-tang clan influence was to throw every one off? Maybe the spirits John has been channelling is the same one Tom Petty has been channelling!

John has also said in the past music progresses by copying others and I suppose making it better, maybe this theory has been taken to the extreme in this case. The news isn?t great but I will still be listening to RHCP because I know it?s so easy to accidentally come up with something that has been done before. Just a bit surprising with how big the RHCP is no one picked up on it before the CD was released.

As for people talking about the solo sounding like purple haze, it might be the same notes but has a completely different feel and speed played is quite different so there probably isn?t a lot to be concerned about there.

[SteveHouse]

Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

Ha, awesome...

[SteveHouse]

WrathofKahn wrote:

Holy Crap! Who cares? These days it's hard not to take parts of other songs. The beat's a wu tang clan beat anyway.

Heh, wu tang...

[nighthawk_st3]

The video clip didn't really have alot to do with the song, they dressed up and were whether you call it making fun or tributing other bands I am not sure?

Perhaps this is a joke or they are trying to make a statement. Maybe they wanted people to find that they have ripped of a song because of the huge amount of people out there sampling other people stuff. Make a point about how unaware people are about this.

Maybe they wanted to make a statement about how all good music is derived by music that came before.

[wabusy33]

I've heard mary janes last dance before but i forgot what it sounded like so i listened to it again and the verse's do sound just like danti california but the chorus's are totally different. If you ask me this wasn't a accident because if you think about it, if they already ripped of hendrix's purple haze in the same song then what would stop them from ripping off tom petty. Plus the music video is suppose to be a tribute to older music or something like that(that's what people were saying). But even if they admit they stole it like they did with purple haze in guitar world magazine or whatever, I lost respect for them completely even though i was never a big fan of rhcp. Doing cover songs is okay in my opinion but ripping off someones stuff and making it your own without asking for their permission is wrong and if I was petty or hendrix if he was still alive, I'd sue them. And I don't care if people are saying that you can't rip off a chord progression or that the song tempos or song structures are different in both songs, the fact is that they both sound the same and it's not rocket science, you just gotta remove the darn wax from your ears and use some common sense.

[Magero]

How interesting, but i think that the whole thing is a bit irrelevant. Wheres all the bands being sued by slayer for ripping off those riffs? Wheres black sabbath sueing Wolfmother? or Metallica? For whom the bell tolls's solo is almost note for note the ending of Fairies wear boots, and the keyboard solo in Minds Eye is the same. The fact is, that even if the chord progression is the same, its not illegal to have the same chords. Otherwise Zepplin would have made so much more money in the last 10 years its not funny. And whoever invented the 12 bar blues would be a gazillionaire. All it takes is one bozo on the air or in a magazine and all of a sudden every feels the need to give not an opinion but a definte answer. I was reading an interview with Alexi Laiho and he points out the same thing, he said in one interview that he though dream theater were lame. and all of a sudden every1 turned agaisnt him. but every day people are dissing bands all over the interenet., but one person says it publically and they become the most hated person in the music business.

[Guitar_Poet]

leeroymo wrote:

RHCP's version was better....

lawl. yea

[TubzyX]

check out the guitar pro to pettys
as you will see dan gaffney is a grade A duckhead. pettys is way slower

[Cmoney]

the only way i would belive they stole his song is if the chours went

"Last dance with mary jane"

[GNR's Fan]

H_Zula :
I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

Damn you're smart

COVER SONG EVER HEARD OF IT LOOK IT UP SOMETIME !

[HurricaneSG]

Tom Pettys song is sped up on the recording!!!!!

[joms]

wooohh...yah men!!nice one

[Defunkt]

Al the grunger wrote:

The Chillis are gettin too good at this

Listen to dirty frank by pearl jam

You'll know what I'm talking about

Is it just me but does "Dirty Frank" sound alot like "Warlocks"??
I'm gettin fairly pissed at the Chilis!

[m_daly_123]

I just left this comment on Jared Morris's blog:

this is a bunch of bullshit...the chord progression used in both songs is A(or Am), G, D, and then A (Am) again...for those of you morons like Jared Morris who don't know, these are three of the most common chords used in guitar playing. Do you know how many other songs use this progression? Thousands. And I listened to you're mosh up...the only reason the tempo is even close is b/c you've sped Tom Petty up like twice the normal speed. To me it just looks like you're trying to find something to bitch about on your show and you're not being very objective. The lyrical themes are the same? Give me a break. The choruses don't even use the same chord progressions therefore it cannot be considered plagerism because they are two entirely different songs. Both the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tom Petty are amazing artists who just happened to come up with the same chord progression for the verse in a song. Mary Jane's Last Dance didn't even come out until 1997, so why don't you accuse Petty of plagerising all those songs in the 60's that used that progression? So please shut the **** up and find something better to fill up air time.

[challengedmind]

delerium- silence, check out the vocals. total rip off.

[Logz]

checked

[Ham_maN]

the song elevation by television sounds an awful lot like californication.

[Paradise Lost]

As previously reported, Red Hot Chili Peppers sold 157,000 copies of their Warner Bros. double-disc "Stadium Arcadium," enough to lead teh Billboard 200 chart for a second week.

fwehahaha...

[Guitar_Dude777]

TubzyX wrote:

check out the guitar pro to pettys
as you will see dan gaffney is a grade A duckhead. pettys is way slower

Oh well dude it still sounds similar

[incubusomaniac]

screw anyine who thinks that them ripped off Petty's song.
you cant fault any whos song has similarities to another, because probably evry song in history sounds kinda like another

in fact i bet if you were just to make up a song out of thin air it would song like another song and then youd be the one "accused" of ripping off a song.

i dont think the copied Petty , its just silimar THATS IT

can i get aholla...joking

[Brit_Rock]

well, they aint in da same key beceasue Dani California's chord progression is: Am, G, Dm, Am
the other one is Am, G, D Am
any decent m,usicion would relise this completely changes the theory of the song, because dani california is played in the key of Am, the other is not as a D major chord, theoretically speaking, cannot be played in an Am chord progression without a chord change. Cant think off the top of me head what it Last Dance's key is G major. try playin both sets of chord sequences nd try and find a suitable ending sequence that sounds like it ends on the root note.. trust me it works..... although... i havent heard the full version of that other song, and this is only theretically speaking, practically u can do anything and sumhow keep it in the same key, sooo we'll just wait nd see...
RHCAP ROCK!!!!!

[Brit_Rock]

RHCP ROCK, whoops typo

[Brit_Rock]

oh nd i contadicted myself, last dances key is g major, i had 2 work it out. just cause it sounds stupid saying i dont no wat it is then tellin ya, woops again

[Logz]

^ Dont be triple posting.
Warning next time

[baseballnut]

so who gives a damn its not 100% copied

[AC:DC]

i have heard a lot of songs that sound similar, but none quite like this but i dont really care i aint a baby and gonna complain.

[jimmythehand]

nobody else noticed that the solo sounds like purple haze?

[HellBent1337]

happened to Vanilla Ice for a simple drum/bass beat.

Personally I thought that it was the petty song, I came over to my buddy's hosue and I was like 'wtf, where did you get this? Ive never heard this version of last dance' and he looked at me like I was stupid before telling me it was RHCP.[/quote]

Dude, thats because ice ice baby is the same EXACT like 7 notes, along with timeing...Dani california is in the key of Am, last dance is in the key of G, with a completely diffrent strum pattern...

[rhcpismylife18]

a lot of songs might sound the same...this one sounds a little bit similar...but not enough to accuse of plagerism...i think that guy that accused them was high or retarded

[the_white_bunny]

they dont line up perfectly the tempos off a bit not by much but its there

[guitaristben]

very similar!

[sandyscooter]

why does the chili peppers feel that they allways have to play songs everyone will like? i mean led zepplin didnt allways play songs everyone liked, they left it up to the beegees

[soul_power]

Yep sounds the same. Diffrent lyrics and strumming, thats about it. The solos right out of purple haze. Thats the first thing i noticed about this song. It just pisses me of cuz they used to be original.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

Remember people the guy from the radio station sped up Mary Jane's Last Dance so it can be even more similar.

[\m/(-_-)\m/]

isint it kinda werird that u could make a song and by a cowinsidence it sounds the same to another song ... well unless u were liek "hey guys i have a great idea lets go rip off a tom petty song!!" "woah thats a awsome idea"

[1000X'sGoodbye]

Well eventually after making loadsa music someones gonna come up with something the same or maybe the band heard it ages ago whilst they were still junkies and now they're clean they thought they'd just dreamt it n thought it was a cool song idea, who knows i'm sure it wasn't intentional.

[euan_soad]

Yassine wrote:

no one complained about remedy (by seether) sounding the same as come as you are

Which Nirvana stole from Killing Joke.

[rhcp_9106]

I love both bands and songs, but what really kills me is that neither of the artists have noticed. But on another hand, the final guitar riff in Give It Away is Sweet Leaf by Black Sabbath almost exactly. Why doesn't anyone care about that one?

[bmclellan]

Yep sounds the same. Diffrent lyrics and strumming, thats about it. The solos right out of purple haze. Thats the first thing i noticed about this song. It just pisses me of cuz they used to be original.

What the **** are you talking about dude? God do half of you kids that post here even play the guitar decently?

[Gibson_Rocker13]

rhcp_9106 wrote:

I love both bands and songs, but what really kills me is that neither of the artists have noticed. But on another hand, the final guitar riff in Give It Away is Sweet Leaf by Black Sabbath almost exactly. Why doesn't anyone care about that one?

yea man your right i just checksed that out. the thing is though i dont think anybody noticed it cause the guitars in that song are the prodominant instrument

[guitar_lvr]

i knew it! tom petty actually copied the chilis, he used his time machine to go into 2006, listen to dani california, and then he went back in time and rewrote it! aha!

[Farewellmyhell]

guitar_lvr :
i knew it! tom petty actually copied the chilis, he used his time machine to go into 2006, listen to dani california, and then he went back in time and rewrote it! aha

That is the only logical solutiuon

[imbackagain2]

Dani california is not am for those who say it is. And to the guy who was talking about pearl jam. It's called a cover you idiot. They arent stealing the song. They're paying tribute to it. Sure dani california and pettys song sound the same but the vocal melodies are totally different. And I bet you tom pettys doesn't have a bass line like fleas. The drums are different and Im pretty sure tom pettys guitar doesn't sound anything close to john frusciantes.

[thembones16]

I said this a loooong time ago in the RHCP thread,just go look.

[imbackagain2]

FOr the purple haze thing i reccomend you read his article in the new guitar world and you will see why they have the same tone.

[adamkoehler]

H_Zula wrote:

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

What was the name of that song from the 60's

[whitewashed100]

holy shit they do sound identical. but the first time i heard the solo i thot it sounded like purple haze.. but thats just me and probably a few other hundred people

[ninja3]

wow...I always thought that rhcp were beginning to become like ac/dc because every album since californication sound all the same...but to start repeating other artists is something "professional" musicians shouldnt do...even if it was unintentional(which it probably was) they should of scrapped the song. When I try to write a song and then realize it sounds to familiar with something else..I trash it....you can't tell me rhcp were not familiar with "last dance with maryjane".

Its not fair to say that because other artist use the same chord progression as others its the same thing...these two were way too identical for comfort, the picking technique was exactly the same, and the melody line was the same. When I first heard it I swear I thought it was tom petty.

[daver869]

to me its just the chord progression thats the same, peppers play it faster though.

[Kay-J]

talking about chord progressions being the same, "save tonight", "bad as they seem", "hurt" and "dont forget me" all have the same chord progression and the same key infact, 6/4/1/5, and if you change that from 6/4/1/5 to 1/5/6/4 then its "no woman no cry", "**** it(i dont want you back)", "she will be loved" and "under the bridge", so it dont mean sh*t, these songs dont sound the same. the only thing that can be commented on is the general rhythm, which is pretty basic, the lyrics can be compared, but only coz they are faintly similar.
and yeh, i thought the solo sounded a lot like "purple haze", and "fugee lah lah" as a matter of fact.
talking about plagerism, "touch the sky" sounds awhole f*cking lot like "move on up"!!

[palefire]

The two sound very similar. THAT SAID... that doesn't mean it was either on purpose, or plagarising at all.

I remember when i was just starting to play guitar, i wrote a riff. I showed it to a friend, and he told me i'd just ripped off T-Rex, '20th Century Boy'. It's really easy to accidentally re-write a song, especially if it's got a very repetitive rhythm and basic chords (like these two have).

And if you don't buy that, think of it from a common-sense point of view; if you're the Chili Peppers who have just plagarised a *fairly* well-respected alternative musician... are you honestly going to use that song as the first single off of your new album? I mean, why not just stick a gun to your head?

[wabusy33]

daver869 wrote:

to me its just the chord progression thats the same, peppers play it faster though.

It's not that much faster, people are saying that the mp3 that this dj posted of mary janes last dance was sped up twice as fast, well i don't know that cause i haven't heard the mp3, i just downladed the whole petty song and listened to it all. It is a bit slower but not that much and it does sound the same no matter what the tempo is. Ripping off one person in a song is one thing but ripping off two people in the same song(Hendrix and Petty), that's another thing. I won't be surprised if rhcp get sued or something.

[INNOCENT VICTIM]

So they may sound the same but there new record has sold so many copies theres nothing you can do about it. GO RHCP!!!!

[guitaristclass]

whoa... thats extreme.

[dan_the_pie]

lol jk.

this is ridiculous to accuse them of plagiarizing though. theres only so many chrds to use anyway, so of course they will be replicated by others

[Calis]

I bet they were both really high, and thought of the same thing.

[LotusRevolution]

Both of the songs are relatively unoriginal.
Oh well.

The rest of Stadium Arcadium makes up for it times a billion.

[kmaster 1337]

Man, i love that Petty song.

[beeboshain]

hahaha fuking pricless, chillis never been the same since their 2nd album in my opinion

[redSG]

umm... actually i dont like RHCP. this song ignited the embers in me that despised them, and this fresh knowledge just completely poured gasoline on it all.

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

ROFL...wow someone is actually ignorant enough to think slash doesnt change styles?

[Seri0usJ0ker]

I think obviously the RHCP fans have proven their point that RHCP did not intentionally steal this song.

I'm on their side as well.

The great Red Hot Chili Peppers wouldn't steal an also great Tom Petty's song.

[BlasphemyInc.]

sandyscooter wrote:

why does the chili peppers feel that they allways have to play songs everyone will like? i mean led zepplin didnt allways play songs everyone liked, they left it up to the beegees

CAR!!!!!

[Pysmone]

enough to lead teh Billboard 200 chart for a second week.

Heh, am I the only one who noticed that?

[tom-the-lawn]

Seri0usJ0ker wrote:

I think obviously the RHCP fans have proven their point that RHCP did not intentionally steal this song.

I'm on their side as well.

The great Red Hot Chili Peppers wouldn't steal an also great Tom Petty's song.

Very true my friend.

[tom-the-lawn]

ninja3 wrote:

wow...I always thought that rhcp were beginning to become like ac/dc because every album since californication sound all the same...but to start repeating other artists is something "professional" musicians shouldnt do...even if it was unintentional(which it probably was) they should of scrapped the song. When I try to write a song and then realize it sounds to familiar with something else..I trash it....you can't tell me rhcp were not familiar with "last dance with maryjane".

Its not fair to say that because other artist use the same chord progression as others its the same thing...these two were way too identical for comfort, the picking technique was exactly the same, and the melody line was the same. When I first heard it I swear I thought it was tom petty.

By The Way really doesnt sound much like Californication. For one thing, Californication is really good, and By The Way is almost crap. It only had 2 or 3 ok songs on it.

[tom-the-lawn]

sandyscooter wrote:

why does the chili peppers feel that they allways have to play songs everyone will like? i mean led zepplin didnt allways play songs everyone liked, they left it up to the beegees

Hahahahaha, School Of Rock. What a awesome movie.

[Sittinduck]

yhea well... what about the reste of the song?

those arent ****ed up chords, they're pretty standard ones

[DaBlackE]

tom-the-lawn wrote:

sandyscooter wrote:

why does the chili peppers feel that they allways have to play songs everyone will like? i mean led zepplin didnt allways play songs everyone liked, they left it up to the beegees


Hahahahaha, School Of Rock. What a awesome movie.

Actually that's a quote from Wayne's World.

[XWildChildX2212]

Im still behind the chilli peppers 100 percent.

thats all i have to say.

[brethyl]

Despite the similarities between another song, there is a COMPLETELY different feel that Petty's Acid rock, don't forget another track off that album is titled "Growing LSD." It just seems a way for the presenter to compensate for some insecurity in other departments.

[kcfshorty]

sucks for them....you gotta be careful writing music i guess....if you cant think up nething that hasnt been done b4, then you have some serious issues....

then again...it could just be complete coincidence....

i said it could be....possible....not probable...

oh well...its still an ok song...not one of my favorite bands, but that still sucks for them...

[montrocity]

I wonder why the guy who wrote the ABC song never sued the guy wrote Twinkle Twinkle Little Star? I mean, it doesn't get anymore obvious than that.

[neverserious88]

how is someone accused "in" plagiarism?.. just a technicality...

but im checking out both songs now to get the lowdow..

[ionlylookscary]

yeah the lyrics are similar in whats goin on! but i love both songs, they both reference indiana! my hometown! maybe the feel is the same but maybe they were i love wit the tom petty cd at the time so it just shows through in their music (which is an expression of how you feel) i love both artists!

[m_daly_123]

XWildChildX2212 wrote:

Im still behind the chilli peppers 100 percent.

thats all i have to say.

thanks man, me too.

Seri0usJ0ker wrote:

I think obviously the RHCP fans have proven their point that RHCP did not intentionally steal this song.

I'm on their side as well.

Seri0usJ0ker wrote:
The great Red Hot Chili Peppers wouldn't steal an also great Tom Petty's song.

Amen...this is getting completely out of hand and blown way out of proportion.


I do not think the Red Hot Chili Peppers plagerised anything. They are a far too creative band to sit around and copy other people's music. They have been influenced greatly by Jimi hendrix (i mean Flea has a hendrix tatoo) and Frusciante acknowledges the solo at the end sounding like purple haze out of respect and tribute to the late singer/guitarist/songwriter. I think that the chord progression was not done intentionally, they just happen to be 3 of the most commonly used chords, and if you think the wah and effects frusciante uses gives it the same, oh what was that ******* dj's words?..."feel" as Tom Petty's harmonica and dirty sounding guitar than you have serious issues...really get help.

[watchurback]

wow this is retarded, first off, compare the choruses, if it is plagarism its not even the whole song.
Next, Anyone putting down Tom Petty or saying RHCP isn't creative, look at the influence both have had as well as the constrsts between say "Last Dance" and "I won't back Down" or "Sca Tissue" and"suck My Kiss"
Last, Tom wouldn't care both are just there for Music.

[Stoner Loner]

dudes the day i herd dani cali i had it on shuffle then i herd mary janes last dance and i was like wow anthony sounds different lol.I knew it was only a matter of time before it was all over UG.

[Jack of Blades]

Have you people ever seen the actual music video of this song? They did it on purpose, they used material from many artists in this song, including lynnrd skynnrd and Hendrix, and while they're spoofing on them, they dress up as the person they're doing it about. It's not a big scandal, calm down.

[crash_course]

i hate to say it but this is almost old news. I heard abou tthis on the radio at least 2 weeks ago they played dani claifonia and then mary janes last dance and then both of them together i saw this coming but at least others are hearing about it

[SG6578]

I noticed that when I first heard the song, but I couldnt put it on the spot what it sounded like, this is funny, the chili's guitarist listed tom petty as one of his influences.

[Hosh]

Why does it even matter? The Red Hot Chili Peppers are greatness, and that's all that matters! There have been many artists who have ripped off others, but you don't see any big conspiracies going around about them, do you? Get a grip and get on with your lives. It's really not a big deal. That's all from me for now...
xxoxo

[ipa_luke]

If you want to pick out songs that sound the same, go back to the first rock and roll songs when there was only three chords, subsequently every song had nearly the same chord progression. People are failing to see through this coincidence and pay closer attention to the other 27 great songs on what should be considered RHCP's 'White Album'.

[SaraElle]

I have to say the songs sound really similar. I'm a huge Tom Petty song, and that's one of my favorites. I also like RHCP. But anyway, considering neither of them have said anything, it must not be a big deal. In any case, I'd rather listen to Mary Jane's last Dance than Dani California

Hosh wrote:

Why does it even matter? The Red Hot Chili Peppers are greatness, and that's all that matters! There have been many artists who have ripped off others, but you don't see any big conspiracies going around about them, do you? Get a grip and get on with your lives. It's really not a big deal. That's all from me for now...
xxoxo

if it is plagiarism, then it is a big deal. Just because you love RHCP doesnt justify anything

[jof1029]

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[SocKo?]

one song's about a girl from california the other's about dope.

lyrical theme my ass.

[supaman_63]

just another retard jumping on the chillis bandwagon...

[Spydr]

Ok, so what about all the rappers who just mix old songs.. no one complains about them, using parts of music from other bands isn't steeling, it's research. Santana said something like that.

[nateman_30]

ahahahaha, i love this, did anybody read the most recent article in Guitar World magazine, I found it interesting that he said that stole jimi hendrix purple haze riff, and used it for the dani california solo/outro, to pay homeage to jimi, and that all he did was change the key and add on a note or something like that, and he says it straight up in the article that he does that, so why are people fussing about the rythem? i think that the chili's held back on this song, although it is indeed very cool sounding on the guitar effects, but they are geniuses and i'm guessing held back and created a song they knew would sell, rick rubin is a master at that, i think the rythem sounds more like sweet home alabama, but look at that, and the lyrical melody is very similar as well to tom petty's marry jane, that's three hit artists they've knicked some inspiration from, lynard skinnard, jimi hendrix, and tom petty, all HUGE sellers and recieve huge airplay, they are just total geniuses, rick rubin included, why not just borrow elements from historic bands and throw them all into one song, make it a single, market it, then make a music video and borrow elements from a rock and roll timeline of bands, and use it to promote your largest cd yet, the puzzle pieces fit, and i believe they knew what they were doing, and did all this intentionally, pure genius, ecspcially in a time of idiots who download illegal music, and claim themselves a true fan, when a true fan would by the album before their friend tells them to download it, which is why this album will sell alot more copy's than you can imagine at this point in time, it's gonna have 7 singles, that's 2 years of promotion for the album, plus grammy's will help a ton, cuz they can go 2 years strong with that, GO RHCP!!!!!

[nateman_30]

i agree with jack of blades 100%, didn't see that he had posted that until after my post, but it's glad to see i'm not the only person who's not an mis-informed idiot

[nateman_30]

and i realize all my points pretty much have been covered by other intelligent people already, but us fans might as well back up our Chili's by re-stating ourselves as much as possible!

[rock_or_roll]

Jack of Blades :
Have you people ever seen the actual music video of this song? They did it on purpose, they used material from many artists in this song, including lynnrd skynnrd and Hendrix, and while they're spoofing on them, they dress up as the person they're doing it about. It's not a big scandal, calm down.

hehe spoof....nah your definately right..lol the chilis got everyone crying

[TeenBite]

supaman_63 wrote:

just another retard jumping on the chillis bandwagon...

Spydr wrote:

Ok, so what about all the rappers who just mix old songs.. no one complains about them, using parts of music from other bands isn't steeling, it's research. Santana said something like that.

I don't want to become involved in this argument, but those comments make no sense!

In my opinion: if there are great similarities and the Red Hot Chili Peppers don't admit to using a bit of the original, then they're in the wrong. Hell, I don't even know if they'd be in trouble for saying "yeh, we used that riff because we like it".

[metalhammer]

jiminizzle wrote:

Itsa ripoff. RHCP shoulda hung it up after BSSM. They are rewriting the same songs over and over. Plus they are stupid. They coulda split Stadium Arcadium into 2 albums of the same music, and made more money, since that seems really important to them. Fuck the RHCP, they suck some serious ass.

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore. MAYNARD wrote:

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

HOLY SHIT!
Maynard you are the most ignorant guy ever
this is RHCP! the guys who sold hyde park for the highest grossing single venue concert event of all time!
OVERRATED?!!?
They are the real deal
the guys who walked across abbey road with nothing on but socks are not creative? The bands you listed arent even that good. this has happened before and you and all the other antiRHCP people can go screw themselves because they are just sad that they can't make it big like the chilis. And they are in it for the money? please. they are the only band left that still cares about the music.

and thats what its all about in the end-- the music

DUDE !!! don't even compare rhcp to TOOL allright. Tool is a way better band than rhcp. The song does sound similar .. stop being all ignorant. Tool doesn't copy anybody else's music they are orginal and way way more meaningful than rhcp.

[metalhammer]

TheforumTroll wrote:

MAYNARD, I'm assuming you are a fan of the band Tool. I mean, I like tool, but no Tool fan should EVER accuse the RHCP of sounding the same in every song, and not being able to come up with new music since basicly every tool song sounds the same. If you honestly think this, you're just one of those losers that live with thier parents until they are 35, wear dragon T-shirts and automatically hate anything thats popular. Tool is pretty popular... You'll have to resent them soon.


Also, the song sounds similiar and the RHCP may have taken it from Petty's song, but its in a different key, in a different tempo, they both have very basic drumbeats and basslines, and the chord progression is not the same. The lyrical melody is also different, and if the RHCP somehow got sued for this, the Kansas City Royals will win the world series.

Dude u act like u know a lot about music. Lets see you make music as good as tool. Tool is the greatest band ever.

[TeenBite]

OK, I listened, and they're exactly the same freaking thing. I'm not saying that the Chili Peppers are bad, I'm just saying they stole a song.

[bassmanrocker]

It makes me luagh how this guy has been musically sad enough to notice it from memory in the first place....then rather than just keeping it to himself and maybe making a joke or two about it with his "mates" he has profit from it....perhaps he just wants a bit of spot light....so, am message to you dan gaffney....go out,shut up, stop arguing over something small and petty (no pun intended) MUSIC IS MEANT FOR PEOPLE TO LISTEN TOO AND ENJOY, STOP TURNING IT INTO AN OPPURTUNITY TO FILE LAW CASES AND TURN IT POLITICAL, thankyou

[Kay-J]

montrocity wrote:

I wonder why the guy who wrote the ABC song never sued the guy wrote Twinkle Twinkle Little Star? I mean, it doesn't get anymore obvious than that.

yeh, and the dude that wrote hot crossed buns sued the dude who wrote 3 blind mice

[360ollie]

I DONT THINK SO !!!!! ok it does sound a little similar but not enough to sue what a jerk!!!!

[chhang]

Al the grunger
It sounds familiar but I cant remember what song it is.
Is it funk monks

[Master_Zed]

I think everyone here who thinks this is a rip off of Pettys song should remember...
Stranger "coincidences" have happend and to the lowlifes that say Red Hot Chillis can't create original music anymore...well...who can?.
Sure might have the odd song with a different key but by now every scalica sequence has been played recorded and sold.
Stop complaining.

And all i know is both songs are pretty cool i like them both an on the bright side i can hear some cool chords on both songs lol

People take music too seriously now just listen an enjoy it if you can't stop listening because this music really wasn't made for that.
SO relax...

Music is something made to invoke enjoyment out of not to critize.

Peace

[Master_Zed]

and metalhammer

Dude u act like u know a lot about music. Lets see you make music as good as tool. Tool is the greatest band ever.

Tool are a good band, to say they are the best is a awesome overstatment, i love tools sound on a nice dark night at 3am but only for lyrical content and because the lyrics can be amusing lol.
"hooker with a penis" anyone?
But still no band in the modern age can be labeled the greatest.

Why? because they have all been influenced thus its the bands that influenced them that are the greatest.
For without them you wouldn't have your tool lol so learn before you speak those lies mate.

Peace

[oddling8]

Covin wrote:

To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

Well, Sweet Home Alabama sounds exactly like White Room by Cream. But, yes, these songs sound exactly the ****ing same. As a RHCP fan, and a Frusciante fan, this is troubling indeed.

[Logz]

checked

[morelloman19]

nimrod_hahahaha wrote:

thats bullshit its for the LOVE of the MUSIC RHCP rock my socks off i hate when people talk shit about them if anyone leaveing comments can play as good as them write your own shit and try to make it big if not then shut the **** up



you're obviously one of those fans that has a little shrine to them in your room and gets a little moist when you get to the barrier at their gigs. sorry had to be said.

don't worry man, me too.

[JD89]

rhcpismylife18 wrote:

if u wanna see what really is plagerized....listen to good old crazy town...and their song butterfly...its the exact same riff from the chilis pretty little ditty...now thats plagerism...this is not

That's probably because RHCP wrote that song for crazytown

[morelloman19]

Kay-J wrote:

montrocity wrote:

I wonder why the guy who wrote the ABC song never sued the guy wrote Twinkle Twinkle Little Star? I mean, it doesn't get anymore obvious than that.

yeh, and the dude that wrote hot crossed buns sued the dude who wrote 3 blind mice

haha i love it.

[MattyPretends]

Yeah, that's pretty damn close.

[miraclegrow7]

i will still continue to listen to them and be a huge fan....

[slashnduff4eva]

Learn_to_fly wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home. I'm a cock. A douchbag. I don't have a penis. I don't know what real music is. I'm a p-head metal head. Pantera!!! I'm a cock!


I know

thanks, i dont have a cock. get over it. i'll stick with what i first said after you had a heart attack and started psychoanalyzing everyone who doesn't like red hot shitty peppers -> 'i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.'

[PETRUCCIisGOD]

This is bullshit. rhcp did not plagiarise. its the same chord progression, but different everything else, even different key. and even if it was, there has been a lot of plagiarism that nobody has noticed, stairway to heaven's solo section is all along the watchtower, no woman no cry is let it be, nobody gave a shit then, y do they now when its not even true.

[imbackagain2]

Tool are a good band, to say they are the best is a awesome overstatment, i love tools sound on a nice dark night at 3am but only for lyrical content and because the lyrics can be amusing lol.
"hooker with a penis" anyone?

[imbackagain2]

Tool are a good band, to say they are the best is a awesome overstatment, i love tools sound on a nice dark night at 3am but only for lyrical content and because the lyrics can be amusing lol.
"hooker with a penis" anyone?

Sorry bout that. I would like to hear your interpretation of that song.

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

the solo in mary jane's last dance kinda sounds like something from white stripes fell in love with a girl

[rhcp_mdq]

I think they don't need to steal a song from another interpreter... yeah, the songs are similar... I accept that... I've listened alot of similar songs and it doesn't mean that all were copies of copies of... do ya really think they need to do that shit?... Some of you should shut the **** up and stop saying bullshit. "slashnduff4eva": you're the first that should shut your mouth... insulting all around in vain. Please make some interesting comment, ****in' *******...

[Logz]

last warning for isc-dude...

loose the caps

[montrocity]

The most irresponsible thing in this whole non-issue is the way the guy sped up the tempo of mary jane to make his little mix and then the producer of his show is quoted saying everything, including the tempos are identical. Tempo probably isn't that important in determining if a riff is ripped off but the radio station guy apparently thought it was when he went through the trouble to alter it.

What's the big deal anyway? Has Petty spoken up on it? My guess is this is a case of a DJ with a personal dislike of the band abusing his position by releasing fabricated evidence of wrong-doing in an attempt to sway his audience to his thinking.

[AdamWest1972]

all i can say is
DO THE HUSTLE!!!
*dances way into the night*
i think rhcp prolly did it by accident
u dont usually copy a song that popular on purpose
or maybe theres something we dont know....
oooooOOOOOooooo
no but hears something to ponder
people these days dont have the same musical influence as tehy did back in the 60's and 70's
thats why most current rock bands sound the same and a lot of rappers copy and redo songs
they dont have the same musical oppiurtunitys(i cant spell)
so u cant blame some one if they by accident copyed a song just a little bit
its just, its a lot harder to create new sounds and material with a limited musical background
*still doin the hustle*

RHCP 4 LIFE!!!
they da bomb dizzle

[punkrockdude2]

ok this guy is works for a radio station. probally doesnt even know tom or RHCP what a dumbass! you cant sue them for this arent all musicans taking ideas from each other? cant help that it sounds a little bit alike...course the dumbass sped up the petty song real fast I have the greatest hits cd and it aint that fast! GET A FUCKIN LIFE PRICK!!!

[xApollox]

that's shit. Tom Petty's song goes wayslower than what they've got. this guy has no idea what he's talkin' about!

[AdamWest1972]

punkrockdude2 wrote:

ok this guy is works for a radio station. probally doesnt even know tom or RHCP what a dumbass! you cant sue them for this arent all musicans taking ideas from each other? cant help that it sounds a little bit alike...course the dumbass sped up the petty song real fast I have the greatest hits cd and it aint that fast! GET A FUCKIN LIFE PRICK!!!

punkrockdude2 wrote:

ok this guy is works for a radio station. probally doesnt even know tom or RHCP what a dumbass! you cant sue them for this arent all musicans taking ideas from each other? cant help that it sounds a little bit alike...course the dumbass sped up the petty song real fast I have the greatest hits cd and it aint that fast! GET A FUCKIN LIFE PRICK!!!

im pretty sure ur not tlking to me
cause if u were ur just makin urself look like a dumb ass
just cause u cant understand what i said
doesnt mean u have to go out on some rant about how much a retard u r
i dont wana know that u have an IQ of 4
if u dont have and GOOD feedback on this article or recent posts that just sit in ur corner and shut the fck up

[AdamWest1972]

oops hahah it double quoted, weeeiiird

[AdamWest1972]

RHCP ROCKS!!!!

[zamver]

RHCP is definitely one of the most creative bands in the world, i like their music so much, im on RHCPs side but i gotta say that this song is so identical to Tom Pettys not just music even the voice melody. But lets be reallistic how many times when youre composing a song or a riff, after hearing it, you realize that is similar to something else, but you did that with no intention, maybe that happened to the RHCP (i want to think that)
I dont care about not really talented bands who make this but knowing that the RHCP did this intentionally would be really disappointing, we just have to wait and see what they say about it, but let me tell you that when somebody accuse you for some action and you remain silence is not a good sign, because youre givin the reason to that person.

Anyway the RCHP are great and so does Tom Petty.

[Candlelit_Chaos]

who give a **** music is a way to express yourself maybe rhcp wantted to express themselves the way tom petty sort of and they came close that's it lay off, and **** off.

[Profound]

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords.


WTF!!! How can you say that if you haven't even see the chords! They are Am G and Dm HOW ARE THEY WEIRD. There are only seven chords in each key, of course some songs will sound the same. Bloody hell. Mountain out of a molehill.


cmon those are ****ing common chords.

[montrocity]

To anyone wishing to comment on the similarities of the two songs: If you have never actually played a guitar chord before, you might want to refrain from mentioning them in your posts.

[GrungePb]

this is a guitar site so im pretty sure everyone here plays guitar

[SOADrox429]

=ToM= wrote:

who gives a **** if they sound similar...
if we tell people to stop using similar chords we end up with... rap, which shouldn't even be called music...

and those of you who hate the chillis, name 10 better bands who have released an album in the last 3 years...

i agree about the rap thing, but i can name 10 better bands

system of a down
black label society
seether
disturbed
trapt
chimaira
slipknot
saliva
10 years
queens of the stone age

there, now i feel justified. i used to like rhcp, and i still like their old music, but their new music just doesn't sound like them, and i guess that this offers a good explanation as to why

[Stardog]

http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3

If you're trying to say that they don't sound similar you're a FANBOY.

It's not just the "chord progression", it's the lyrics too.

Both talking about a girl growing up.

[stratmanjay3000]

frusciante_man1 wrote:

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

ok look, we all love the red hot chili peppers, but is there a need to say that? and personally, if you played guitar, were good at it (and not a metal head) you'd notice thats actually a pretty good song, minus the singing..and harmonica.

[gibsonmanusa]

well the chords progression is similar but faster then pettys version. and tom doesnt have the little wah piece in the verses. the chorus is different than mary janes last dance. also MJLD doesnt have the guitar solo. and yes the solo is a semi-rip off of purple haze but john altered the tempo therefore not plagarism technically. but dont anyone get me wrong, tom petty is not a good musician but i dont think he should sue if he decides to.

[scotty2006]

4 simple words.....petty is a tw@t

[Hippypunk]

hmmm its called rhythm tom petty doesnt have the same rhythm as john frusciante and it shows. as for the ten better bands there might be but those metal bands cant compete with the chili peppers

[Cush]

Yes it is very similar.
It cracks me up reading comments such as:
"There are loads of songs that have the same chord progression" and "There are only so many chord progressions to choose from."
Then obviously the band aren't as creative as you once thought, they are struggling for creativity so they resort back to standard chord progressions - make something original!
This rip is annoying but not as annoying as that Trivium lot, seriously.
Listen to Ozzy's classic "Bark at the Moon" - listen to the last solo in that song, then stick on Trivium's "Dying in Your Arms"(God I wish...)and listen to the solo in that song. Now THAT is annoying.
Btw - Trivium fanboys, don't whine at me, because you know it's true.

[fender f**kwit]

first things first, the chilis are in my top 5 bands, but i have to agree that these songs sound similar. the similarities go beyond just the chord progression. i reckon it was unintentional plagiarism, as i think they are too smart and original and creative to have to resort to that, but if it was intentional im more disappointed than pissed.

if we're talking about songs with the same chord progression though, "polly" by nirvana, "wonderwall" by oasis, and "boulevard of broken dreams" by green day

[harley10_5]

jables23092 wrote:

um thats pretty much total BS, just a comment from somebody with a microphone who wanted to make a big deal, there are a lot of songs with similarities, and even if you try and compare the two, the peppers did a way better job of making a song out of the rythm and chords haha

let me pose one question... are the chili peppers in the rock hall of fame.....i dont think so

yes, indeed they suck and pettys song its a million times better and for the sake of everybody here i like neither band but i know music when i see it.

[XAkitAX]

wow i never though the chili peppers would go that low.. especially with tom petty.. i love tommy muhah

[6andrew9]

Yeah, they sound the same. But what does it matter? So do thousands of other songs. It was bound to happen sooner or later, there are only a few million combonations you can put together with chords before music sounds like sh*t, and there are well over a quadrillion songs out there.

Plus, the Chili Peppers don't have to go that low to make a song. They don't need that song nor about 10 other songs on that album to top the charts. They are one of the most original bands out there and they actually play MUSIC. Tom Petty is one of the best musicians ever to walk this planet, but Anthony Keidis IS the best song writer that ever lived.

When I try to write songs I catch myself copying all the time without even knowing it. It's human.

RHCP

[Twisted Logic]

I feel sorry for those who don't own the album. It's full of original content. I agree about the chord progression, I want to add also the solo is very similiar to J. Hendrix's "Purple Haze" intro. I don't see anything wrong in that, the whole album is made in this direction and I'm loving it. John Frusciante is proving to be one of the best guitarist of the new millenium.

[explose]

people. you have too much free time. lets just let the peppers write their music and petty write his without us talking bout similarities that dont really exist. ask yourselves, does it all really matter to you?

[PanicATD12]

Let me lay down answers to some dilemmias here:

1: The solo on "Dani California" sounds like Jimi Hendrix because Frusciante said himself it was a tribute to the fallen guitar god.

2: The clip of "Mary Jane's Last Dance" here only sounds like RHCP because the tempo was sped up dramaticly, and when playing them both at the same time at the end were two different parts of the verse, and the chorus has absolutely NOTHING to do with RHCP's version, but whoever put the altered clip out didn't play the chorus because he knew nobody would believe him then. Listen to Morris's quote in parts:
"The chord progression," Nope. RHCP got D instead of Petty's Dm, "the melody," Nope again. Close but no cigar, "the tempo," Big nuh-uh. The tempo in the clip was raised signifigantly, "the key," No, "and the lyrical proggesion" How many time has Petty wrote about girls and states? A lot. How many times has RHCP wrote about girls and states? A lot more. Plus, the names of the girls and the names of the states are different. Probably some lowlife who said this, just trying to get Petty fame, because he's his favorite artist, so he thought "the idiots of the music industry will believe anything, I'll alter this a little bit and nobody will be the wiser." Uh-huh. Sure.

[Eamon Fethers]

As soon as i heard about this i thought it was bullshit. Frusciante is to god damn good 2 rip sombody elses song off, he's a musical genius!

[Eamon Fethers]

frusciante's 2 much of a music genius to copy someone elses song. he's one of the most talented composes i've ever heard.

[MrJayremmie]

Maybe the most retarded thing i've ever heard, and this is why.
Chorus, Bridge, solos are different, bass line is different, vocals are different.
So the ONLY thing he can say is the the verse progression and tempo is the same. well the petty song is SPED up in order to match it, and in the riff instead of D the chilis use Dm.... so different chords, faster tempo for the verse... is this radio guy ****in retarded?