Red Hot Chili Peppers Accused In Plagiarism

According to a recent Drowned In Sound report, a US radio presenter has accused the Red Hot Chili Peppers of plagiarism, claiming that the band's "Dani California" single is near identical to Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance".

Dan Gaffney, of Delaware-based WGMD, told his listeners of the similarities. Subsequently, the show's producer Jared Morris told reporters:

"The chord progression, the melody, the tempo, the key, the lyrical theme... they're identical."

To prove the point, Morris has posted an MP3 on his personal blog. Check it out at this location. Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet.

As previously reported, Red Hot Chili Peppers sold 157,000 copies of their Warner Bros. double-disc "Stadium Arcadium," enough to lead teh Billboard 200 chart for a second week.

Also, watch Anthony Kiedis talking on how American Idol is affecting the music in today's video news article.

Comments

[Carlson-online]

lol its the same chord prog and drum beat but thats about it.
its in a different key is can be told, and theyve speeded the Tom petty one up loads!!!

[frodoisdead]

this makes me laugh.

[METSOAD]

hehe

[tides240]

It's so similar, like i've heard it somewhere else...like in TOM PETTY's SONG! This is freakin great...lol!

[slashnduff4eva]

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

[Experiences]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

[jables23092]

um thats pretty much total BS, just a comment from somebody with a microphone who wanted to make a big deal, there are a lot of songs with similarities, and even if you try and compare the two, the peppers did a way better job of making a song out of the rythm and chords haha

[guitartilldeath]

woah seriously, they do sound very similar indeed

[y2james2005]

hahaha thats pretty damn similar!

[evilbiscuit]

if I were Tom Petty I'd be pretty pissed. Its exactly the same. It cant be coincidence.

[Covin]

To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

[Towlie]

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

[guitarhero_908]

The intro to "Readymade" on Stadium Arcadium sounds similiar to the intro to "Mountain Song" by Jane's Addictio.
This Tom Petty example more so though.

[livinginpixels]

hoooooly craaap. Even though its pretty hard for musicians to sue other people, i think tom petty could get major $$$ from this.

damn you rhcp

[x_rox]

lead teh Billboard

bit of 1337 for UG there :P
They are similar but not identical. Loads of chord progression and lyrical topics are the same but are they all plagiarised? I think not.

[RustedFox]

"No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two.

[lwnovember]

funny

[MarkTremonti]

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords. And as mentioned in the broadcast, the drum beats and bass lines even match up. It sounds pretty fishy to me but who know except the Chili Peppers. We'll just have to wait and see how this one turns out.

[mrFood]

'lead teh Billboard'

Tee hee.

[evilbiscuit]

No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two

yeah but you cant copyright a chord progression. If you could then it would be impossible to make new music. Its the melody thats gonna get them in trouble.

[buried_a_lie]

there are loads of songs that have the same chord progression (listen to nirvana) that doesnt mean they are plagiarised

[y2james2005]

Covin wrote:

To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

i thought that!!

Towlie wrote:

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

no that though...allthough i see what u mean!

[slashs_snakepit]

if it true lets thank ourselves the Peppers did it and not like Britney or whoever lolz...

spam check

[Diceman42]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

Nice comeback, tool.

Anyways, although the songs are identical (note the content of the lyrics: girls and states for example) and the song could easily be a reproduction of Petty's, I dont necessarily believe this was an intent of the Chillies.

However, plagiarism is plagiarism, whether intended or not. They fail you immediately in any academic setting for that.

To the chillies the song may have been "one of those songs" that sounds really familiar but dont know why, and thus attributed it to its "hit" power. I wonder if legal action will take place.

[imbackagain2]

There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords

Actually the chords are a/g/d/a. The exact same as tom pettys last dance with marry jane. I don't know how you play guitar, but these are normal chords. NOt wierd ass. Fruscantie just plays them differently then the way you have probably learnt them.

[afortuneinlies]

well, the major difference is that Petty's is a lot better. I like RHCP, but that song just isn't anything special at all. Last Dance with Mary Jane is nice raunchy rock and roll song, it's always been good.

I honestly don't think Petty will give a damn. He just writes decent rock songs. everyone has used similar chord progressions to him, because they are just basic rock progressions. the lyrics and melody may be debateable but the tempo may as well be thrown aside...it's just a tempo....i dunno. None of it really matters to me.

[Stephen00000]

bollocks. they released an interview prior to dani california's release which was about how the song cam about. Its a fluke how it ended up sounding how it did. chili's are above copying ideas off other ppl.

[applax]

lol the first time my roommate heard me playing dani califorina he thought it was tom petty so they are really similar but who cares.

[afortuneinlies]

oh and on another note(my apologies for the double post) how about the similarites between boulevard of broken dreams and that tonic song "if you could only see" ? that little guitar melody fill thing...there's like...one different note

[vietnow_96]

i swear they've sold more than 157,000 copies.

[MAYNARD]

Itsa ripoff. RHCP shoulda hung it up after BSSM. They are rewriting the same songs over and over. Plus they are stupid. They coulda split Stadium Arcadium into 2 albums of the same music, and made more money, since that seems really important to them. Fuck the RHCP, they suck some serious ass.

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore.

[frusciante_man1]

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

[stevenlogan]

I didn't bother check out Petty's version, but kiedis have been writing about girls and states for a long time..

Fruiscante says that he gets influenced by the music he hears in that period. Maybe he heard Petty's song and, unintentionally, played a riff that sounded like that one. Fuck, who knows?

[metalhead_maddo]

Lol I suppose that explains why it's the only RHCP song I don't actually think sucks balls...

...it's not even their song hahaha

[HellBent1337]

Seriously, do you not realise THat the songs are 2 VERY diffrent songs, there are more commin ones out there, For mary jane its Am,G,D,Am(7)...But Dani Califorina is Am,G,Dm,Am...pretty close, but you have to realise that's enough, with a simple drum beat...They both have comepletely diffrent solo's and vocal meledies, and choruses....GET A LIFE MAN!

[calnix]

Wow, they sped up the Tom Petty song entirely too much...

[H_Zula]

...this just further proof that it will eventually be the same music over and over, even RHCP can't be completely orginial always...

[Aunt_bazza]

horse

[Fender_tele=sex]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.

I think you should give up and go home! whats wrong with you every ones loves the chilis!!

[blacksides]

its also the same progression as hey baby by jimi hendrix, so what?

[nehpets5555]

damn , its similar all right

[JethroTullfan72]

The Tom Petty song has been sped up so much its not even funny. Yes, the songs have some similarities. But alot of songs do, that doesnt mean it was done purposly. This is just someone trying to make a big deal and get his 15 minutes of fame.

[H_Zula]

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

[chinesechipmunk]

frusciante_man1 wrote:

they sound like the same but who cares about sum rubbish petty guy. I dont care because a good song woz wasted on a crap singer like him.

My god. You really are dissing Tom Petty??

Christ almighty! That man's probably influenced as many bands as Sabbath has!

[jayr123guitar]

imbackagain2 wrote:

There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords


Actually the chords are a/g/d/a. The exact same as tom pettys last dance with marry jane. I don't know how you play guitar, but these are normal chords. NOt wierd ass. Fruscantie just plays them differently then the way you have probably learnt them.

actually its Am/G/Dm/Am opposed to petty's Am/G/D/Am

[MoshMaster101]

So? Paul Weller's 'The Changingman' has exactly the same intro as 10538 Overture by ELO. But they both still rock.

[dr00pa]

Sometiems musicians are inadvertntly influenced by other musicians and dont even realize they took someting... ive done it accidetally but caught myself.

And BTW... states and girls... check out Around the World from Californication...

[SYH_Fan]

H_Zula :
I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

Dude thats called a COVER SONG

[punkrockjoe]

You know sometimes i write songs and i'm just like oh shit it sounds like this other thing but it's just coincidence.I doubt they actually ripped it off and if they did the rhcp version is better haha.

[DanG]

they are the red hot chili peppers, tom petty is tom petty enough said

[Ischi]

It's the Chili Peppers were talking about here, they're creative to write there own stuff... Although they do have similarities...

[fusebox7]

They aren't that similar if you listen to Tom Petty's actual song "Mary Jane's Last Dance" and not that clip on here that's been altered a bit... In my own opinion I don't think they're that similar as some have played it out to be.

[elcapitan1800]

Does anyone really believe that RHCP needs to plagerize? I dont believe it. Maybe if it was some no name band, but the Peppers do it good enough on their own.

[ArucardHellsing]

I don't like their music but it'll be quite interesting to see what is going to happen next.

[mistaman]

haha this is ridiculous, does anyone really think that this will undermine how creative rhcp really is? I mean, they're pretty much the only rock band that plays extended solos anymore.

[madefortvmovie]

holy shit THE SAME CHORD PROGRESSION!!!!! i wonder how many hundreds of songs use it

[Epiphone_D2DaP]

That is the biggest load of s**t ive ever read, i've just listened to both songs together at the same tempo an the chord progression isn't even the same, close ok but still its no way a rip off!! The Chili's are to good for that anyway

[MAYNARD]

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

[MAYNARD]

mistaman wrote:

I mean, they're pretty much the only rock band that plays extended solos anymore.

You need to broaden your horizons. Tons of bands have solos, and they are by far the least creative with it, and John Frusciante is their strong point.

[ArcherTheVMan]

Experiences wrote:

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home.


This is coming from someone who likes Slash, someone who never changes his style of playing. Yawn.

So what if it is the same?

your both equally as single-minded.

[ArcherTheVMan]

H_Zula wrote:

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's! I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

..ther called cover songs. i bet you thought garage inc. was a big rip off album too didnt you?

another spam check- good job kids

[Cliff_Hetfield]

It's different. I mean yeah it's similar but it's still not the same. And since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?

[ShootToThrill]

in the solo of dani california theres bits that sound like purple haze.

[Cliff_Hetfield]

and the Tempo too. Since when has that been considered a part of "musical" plagiarism.

[Andrewsonfire]

Sound very much then same.. even the singing and the lyrics are along the same lines.

[Justice-For-All]

If Petty's name isn't in the the musical credits then this is just like Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice baby. Anyone else notice that the song Especially in Michigan sounds almost exactly like a U2 song. Someone better check that s-hit out too. The only question now is why?

[trevonator]

whoop dee doo.
who complained when all those rap artists stole queen and zeppelin songs. Or that new one Rhianna-SOS is tainted love.

I love both the songs, I think this radio guy forgot to take his pills this morning.
It's like trying to tell an artist they are plagiarising for using the 12 bar blues.

[CE49]

This dude does have a point

[funky_punk]

Yer i agree its the same chords but it wouldnt be like the chilis to rip anyone off- id say its just coincidence

[kickouthejams7]

Frusciante admitted to using Hendrix's riff on the solo, not as plagarism but as tribute. Just for the record. Also there are only so many chord progressions to choose from.

[minorbravo]

Justice-For-All wrote:

Anyone else notice that the song Especially in Michigan sounds almost exactly like a U2 song. Someone better check that s-hit out too. The only question now is why?

that song does sound familar i just cant place it

[Save You]

there is no need for anyone to accuse anyone of plagiarism...seriously. how many notes are in music? how many times can those notes be used before you copy someone? it is impossible to not copy someone; if they did they can get away with it and say it was a tribute to tom petty

frodoisdead wrote:

this makes me laugh.

yeah me too...

the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solos...umm pick up the new Pearl Jam album...McCready plays some pretty sick solos and even better ones live...

[ekune26]

Man...you can't compose a song that has no similarityes with another...There are a lot of songs that are the same..just play Fade To Black..Unforgiven..and Cemetery Gates (pantera) and you will se that they have similarityes...Anyone can write a song that is similar to another without knowing..there are A LOT OF SONGS IN THIS WORLD...

[chieftanec]

This is why I say stupid people shouldnt be given a microphone. This guy is obviously an idiot who wants publicity, (after all hes a radio presenter) which means he prolly lives with his parents. The only parts that seem remotely identical is the begining, and thats only because its speed up. The rest of the songs lyrical and insturmental song nothing alike.

[stboney]

sound similair but who cares, honestly every1 have ripped sum1 and sum1 will allways be ripped off, seether and nirvana now THATS a better debate

[guitar_freak523]

theres both pretty basic rythmes that have been used lots of times

[darkwarrior2010]

how do u plagiarism beats and sound thats like me sueing someone for going grrr cause its my sound

[zbones]

hey if anyone actually listens to the entire tom petty song, it's completely different. totally different tempo too, the guy who put up that mp3 is a loser and sped tom petty's song up. i bet there's lots of songs that use the same chords..... LONG LIVE TOM PETTY AND THE RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS!!!!

[Echoes_26]

Red Hot Chili Peppers can make their own music... they are after all funk rock, one of the most creative genres... I dont believe this junk.

[rx182]

This song also sounds like Ozzy Osbourne's Perry Mason. I know both songs are totally different... but the patterns are the same... listent to both you will understand.

[Meteorshower]

Towlie wrote:

I thought the intro was similar to Blur's "Country House"... but its somewhat more similar to this!

That's just cause they play the root note of a chord then the chord... Lot's of songs do that...

[13Flxxrocker]

i knew it sounded familiar

[ihavnofingrprnt]

loads of songs are built along a certain chord progression

ie, nirvana-smells like teen spirit/offspring-self esteem

finding a similar arangement and tempos are likely, so they have some leeway on that fact, but if tthe bass and drum beats are identical it would seem to be more coincidence

[Izz]

It is a ****ing rip-off you can't get away from it. The tempo. the beat, the chords, everything is the same. And Mary Jane's last dance pwns any red hot chili pepper

[Spankey]

Covin :
To me it sounds a lot like Sweet Home Alabama. I think that's the one. Some big song like that though. But i haven't heard it in a long time, so I could be totally wrong.

Dani california sounds nothing like sweet home alabama, this is coming from a lynyrd skynyrd fan.

There are so many songs that sound alike that it isnt even funny, people shouldnt get so butt hurt over it.

[wabusy33]

I heard a song of one of the the chilli peppers songs on tv and I thought one of the riffs on it either sounded like voodoo child or purple haze, i forget which one though, I just remember it was a hendrix song. And there's also this hot chick out with some crappy hit song that sounds identical to tainted love but I forget what her name was. It doesn't surprise me that new music today is ripping off or sounding identical by accident to older music. I guess most musicians feel the need to rip off good music from the past because their not good enough to come up with their own shit.

[fallinsuburbia]

I thought you weren't able to copyright your chord progression.

[Spankey]

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos

[Spankey]

dont get me wrong i like the peppers but they are very main stream and there solos arnt that great, flea is a good bass players though, but its better than no solo's i guess.

[mats1337]

well i like the chillis and theyre probably the best rock and roll band atm but this is just copying the songs are identical

[Inahrima]

[Meteorshower]

wabusy33 wrote:

I heard a song of one of the the chilli peppers songs on tv and I thought one of the riffs on it either sounded like voodoo child or purple haze, i forget which one though, I just remember it was a hendrix song. And there's also this hot chick out with some crappy hit song that sounds identical to tainted love but I forget what her name was. It doesn't surprise me that new music today is ripping off or sounding identical by accident to older music. I guess most musicians feel the need to rip off good music from the past because their not good enough to come up with their own shit.

The tainted love thing was sampling i'm pretty sure

[wabusy33]

Spankey wrote:

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos

There's still bands doing solos besides the rhcp, just not as many. Look at bands like audioslave, bls, qotsa and velvet revolver, they still play solos and their 10 times better then rhcp's crappy solos.

[xxgenocide98xx]

HellBent1337 wrote:

Seriously, do you not realise THat the songs are 2 VERY diffrent songs, there are more commin ones out there, For mary jane its Am,G,D,Am(7)...But Dani Califorina is Am,G,Dm,Am...pretty close, but you have to realise that's enough, with a simple drum beat...They both have comepletely diffrent solo's and vocal meledies, and choruses....GET A LIFE MAN!

Get a life man? Yet at the same time look at what happened to Vanilla Ice for a simple drum/bass beat.

Personally I thought that it was the petty song, I came over to my buddy's hosue and I was like 'wtf, where did you get this? Ive never heard this version of last dance' and he looked at me like I was stupid before telling me it was RHCP.

[fusugar]

a few people on here are saying chilli peppers suck i think thats a bit unfair. I hate the chilli peppers but you have to respect them for what they are

[Meths]

Wow, whose editing these articles? "accused IN plagiarism"?

"Neither Petty nor the RHCP haven't commented yet."

Pft. Terrible grammar.

And it's not plagiarism if the supposed plagiariser hasn't heard the original. Considering the vast amounts of music that's been written it's hardly surprising if similar sounding songs crop up every now and then. Immediately screaming plagiarism is a bit harsh and possibly a plea for media attention.

[morelloman19]

obviously no one knows that Frusciante used his influences from the 60s to the 80s on this album. this was probably on purpose. did no one notice how the main riff in the solo is purple haze in a different key?

[JCbasster]

i mean yeh teh sound similar, but you ever heard of the bible theory, of all the songs out there thats bound to happen...with the same chord pattern and rhythm, i think and hope its just a coincidence

[Izz]

Echoes_26 wrote:

Red Hot Chili Peppers can make their own music... they are after all funk rock, one of the most creative genres... I dont believe this junk.

Why aren't they doin' so then?

[morelloman19]

wabusy33 wrote:

Spankey wrote:

[quote]the guy who said that the chili peppers are basically the only band around who plays solosquote]

Um yeah maybe in the main stream music, the chili peppers solo's arnt very good, but most metal bands play solos


There's still bands doing solos besides the rhcp, just not as many. Look at bands like audioslave, bls, qotsa and velvet revolver, they still play solos and their 10 times better then rhcp's crappy solos.

that is probably the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. listen to the chili peppers before you tell me that Frusciante is a crappy soloist. and they don't just have guitar solos. there's a percussion solo in Hump de Bump. oh and by the way, they only have one guitarist and he recorded up to 4 different guitar parts for half the songs on Stadium Arcadium.

[That_Pink_Queen]

It's actually completely legal to copy a chord progression, the essential part legally is basically the melody.


Petty's song is still WAY better.

[ANGERisaGIFT]

I'd be more pissed about the new artists who rip off artists by taking their instrumental tracks and putting new vocals over them. I don't know the artist, but the song is called SOS and completely rips off The Cure's Tainted Love. At least the Chili Peppers only used a single verse (which I'm sure you can find repeating verses in alot of songs with simple 3-chord progressions), and they had the decency to actually record their own version.

[Confined Rage]

well everyone could tell a similarity in the song to mj's last dance the second they heard dani california, at least i could im suprised this hasnt been a problem sooner.

[Life Wasted]

Nickelback dose the same thing on every song and nobody say's anything

[roythereaper]

Think of all the music produced using guitars, bass drums and vocals, since what, the early 50's? In the space of 56 years you all expect there won't be 2 songs that sound similar? Stairway To Heaven and everyone elses examples too. And as has been said before also, Petty's was sped up anyways.

[GuitarJunkie]

wow...im familiar with both songs...and that guy whos accusing them of copying the tom petty song...is a ****ing dolt.

[roythereaper]

However, the old Chili's stuff was fantastic. If only they could create a new genre again.

[the evil edge]

oasis/cigarettes and alcohol and T.rex/get it on... this happens all the time. shit happens.

[nimrod_hahahaha]

i duno why people are concentrating on the fact that copying chord progressions is not plagiarism. no, it isnt, but that's not the point. its not just the chord progression, its everything but the actually words in the lyrics. maybe its accidental but it seems like a big coincedence. and before someone rips me for saying something against their favourite band, i like RHCP as well i just think its strange...

[liam177lewis]

its just funny lol

[okayplayer]

thats bullshit its for the LOVE of the MUSIC RHCP rock my socks off i hate when people talk shit about them if anyone leaveing comments can play as good as them write your own shit and try to make it big if not then shut the **** up

[nimrod_hahahaha]

thats bullshit its for the LOVE of the MUSIC RHCP rock my socks off i hate when people talk shit about them if anyone leaveing comments can play as good as them write your own shit and try to make it big if not then shut the **** up

you're obviously one of those fans that has a little shrine to them in your room and gets a little moist when you get to the barrier at their gigs. sorry had to be said.

[okayplayer]

haha how did you know sry if i like good music i didnt know people would hate on me for that

[nimrod_hahahaha]

all right calm down why do you think i hate you?? you're a chilis fan, im a chilis fan, its all good.

[bush_slayer_07]

people are so dum everybody copies everybody in the music business thats why theiers a 1000 punk rock bands a 1000 hheavy metal bands and a1000 country bands who gives a shit theyre both good songs

[Knives490]

jared morris sped up the tom petty song so he cheated on makin a point, and i hope noone has made this point yet, but nothing is original anymore everythings already been thought of, besides the peppers are makin a more rock-funk song and mary jane's last dance is way too slow to be the basis for dani california, although they do sound similar they are not identical, my idea is just play music if it sounds the same whatever someone else will make it even more similar in the future.

[system_junky]

all of u that are mad at rhcp, are just jealous. ur jealous cause they are making loads of money, and ur still asking people "if they would like fries wit that"

[randyrhoads#1]

the song sucks ass so who cares!!!

[jiminizzle]

Itsa ripoff. RHCP shoulda hung it up after BSSM. They are rewriting the same songs over and over. Plus they are stupid. They coulda split Stadium Arcadium into 2 albums of the same music, and made more money, since that seems really important to them. Fuck the RHCP, they suck some serious ass.

It probably is a coincidence, but it just proves that the Chili Peppers cant create original music anymore.

MAYNARD wrote:

The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily

HOLY SHIT!
Maynard you are the most ignorant guy ever
this is RHCP! the guys who sold hyde park for the highest grossing single venue concert event of all time!
OVERRATED?!!?
They are the real deal
the guys who walked across abbey road with nothing on but socks are not creative? The bands you listed arent even that good. this has happened before and you and all the other antiRHCP people can go screw themselves because they are just sad that they can't make it big like the chilis. And they are in it for the money? please. they are the only band left that still cares about the music.

and thats what its all about in the end-- the music

[toolmns]

RIDICULOUS! both songs are different. period.

[paintITblack39]

Big deal they copied off another person. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Oasis did it. Oh wait, all those bands are famous and no one besides people on UG care about it.

[paintITblack39]

Big deal they copied off another person. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Oasis did it. Oh wait, all those bands are famous and no one besides people on UG care about it.
[quote=MAYNARD]The Chili's arent that creative. Alotta their songs sound the same. Of the few bands from the early 90's, RHCP are by far the worst and most stagnant. Pearl Jam, Tool, Black Crowes are all amazing, while the Chili Peppers have been writing the same shit for several years. Plus they changed their music to stay popular.

RHCP=most overrated band of all time, easily [/quote]
Wow you just proved yourself wrong over there. How the hell can they sound the same if they changed their music dumbass.

[Bulletbass man]

Tom pettys was sped up. They're not at the same tempo. The chords are somewhat similar but all the fills in the chilis music set it entirely apart. The vocals don't exactly sound a like either.

[Kendawg4TooL]

Cliff_Hetfield wrote:

It's different. I mean yeah it's similar but it's still not the same. And since when have themes to a song been illegal to copy?

Beautiful point about the legality to copy themes of a song, if that were the case then every freakin' duplicate emo song would be a case of plagarism against the other. I think this is rubbish. It's a couple simple chord progressions and a very SIMPLE drum beat (one that I'm sure is used in countless other songs).

The structure and style of both songs is very typical alot of classic rock songs, Petty's not the only person who's written a song like Last dance with mary jane. There are a whole sleuth of songs like that in the classic rock catolouge it's just that Last dance is a very known and reputable song. The video of Dani California is a big ode to the history of rock n' roll as it is so maybe this works in the same way. IDK whatever, that's just what I think of it. Besides that I just think it's a coincidence and I seriously doubt Petty would give a damn. He's not a ***** for money who's waiting to pounce on any legal battle he can. Tom Petty is one of the more respectable artist who never sold out.

[bush_slayer_07]

just to and on to what tom petty is a whashed up looser sell out who sells his songs to the nba for playoffs music GO RHCP FUCK TOM PETTY WHO DID NOTHING TO PROGRESS MUSIC AT ALL

[MESAexplorer]

This is the best thing I ever heard HAHA

[Learn_to_fly]

slashnduff4eva wrote:

i think im one of the only people in the world that hates those guys. red hot chilli pepers should give up and go home. I'm a cock. A douchbag. I don't have a penis. I don't know what real music is. I'm a p-head metal head. Pantera!!! I'm a cock!

I know

[GuitaPlaya]

guitarhero_908 wrote:

The intro to "Readymade" on Stadium Arcadium sounds similiar to the intro to "Mountain Song" by Jane's Addictio.
This Tom Petty example more so though.

they do

[pieboy]

this is bullshit. rhcp wrote 27 other original songs for stadium arcadium, why would they bother to plagerise 1?

[Stooja]

They might sound similar but it doesn't mean they are the same song, plus how much better does Dani california sound than that anyway...

[marko'd]

FIRST OF ALL SLASH HAS MANY DIFFERENT SLYLES AND IS A AMAZING GUITARIST AND IF "experiences" needs to get a new hearing aid if he's saying that about a great guitarist like slash.Now to the chilli's i don't think they completely copied the rythem i meen at max they borrowed the drum beat and made it better and maybe a few rythems but again maid it better.OOOOH i also think herman Li is AMAZING at guitar but that's besides the point

[marko'd]

ooh i agree with pieboy

[richard_edwards]

that guy has got a point
they do sound veeeery similar.
when he layers them on the mp3, its the perfect match.

[theexperience13]

funny. me and my friends were just talkin about this

[Vedder]

i see very limited lyrical similarites, mary janes last dance mentiones how many states? 1? screw that, tonnes of songs do that.

[RainbowBassist]

i love the rhcp. but first of all, their song is clearly in a different key, and really, who cares about tom petty? this is a pointless argument just to get publicity.

[MetalHead73]

if anyone has noticed
Incubus' Drive's intro sounds exactly like the intor to mary jane except incubus' is on acoustic guitar and mary jane is on electric

[hobo467]

Weird how similar they are; the Chilis have never been known to imitate, as far as I know; I listened to both, and they have the same thmatic meaning and chord progression; it happens, I guess, but this is weird.

[R0CKER1220]

At the points where they played both at the same time, the dissonance was scraping at my ears, they're definately similar but no where near the same.

[boyan89]

so what its not that bad and red hot chili peppers have much better guitar playing then that band ever will so yah

[EnglishChick]

yeah so they're similar, but not identical. the tempo and key is different, and Dani California is alot better

[Kick Me]

Yeah I actually thought they sounded alike too after I heard it, cause my friend just gave me Tom Petty's greatest hits. But its not plagerism...

[Kwokinator]

someones going to sue someone :o

[trickie]

Has anyone ever thought that perhaps RHCP bought the rights for the song? WHat probably happened was that the Petty song seeped into Frusciante's subconscious so when he busted out a chord progression everyone liked it not knowing what happened but when the song was all said and done they probably then realized what happened and just bought the rights.

[WrathofKahn]

Holy Crap! Who cares? These days it's hard not to take parts of other songs. The beat's a wu tang clan beat anyway.

[supersonic23]

Damn This is almost like the time Vanilla Ice ripped Queen and David Bowie "Its that extra ting" lol

[Seri0usJ0ker]

Red Hot Chili Peppers had no intention of anything. I admit they sound similar. Listen to the chorus of Dani California though. Does that sound like any of Mary Jane's Last Dance? No. Listen to the bridge of Dani California where John sings. Does that sounds anything like anywhere of Mary Jane's Last Dance? No. Millions of songs have that drum beat. And Flea on bass, yes it's simlar, but he does a lot more than the standard thing, I know both songs. Same goes for John Frusciante. And are you kidding me, the vocals don't sound alike. Get a life.

[a real DEAD one]

Its all cool, Im sure they really didnt mean to. Theres not much diffrent stuff to do anyways... Musics been around for ever

[DanSumthing]

If you're calling this plagairism, then you know nothing about music.
It's a very simple chord progression in basic 4/4 time signature.
Thousands of other songs exist with the same time signature and the same chord progression.

[HarmlessMarvin]

"No Woman No Cry" and "Let it Be" follow the same chord progression... nobody complained about those two.

Maybe cause they're not really the same.

[KickOutTheJamsX]

obviously petty traveled to the future and stole the song from the chilis.

[smash119]

does anyone remember george harrison and "my sweet lord"? he was found guilty of plagiarising "sub-consciously"...look t up on wikipedia, the ruling on the case is fairly interesting.

[dwnbowden]

MarkTremonti wrote:

Well it wouldn't be as bad if they were like Power chords or something. There's an infinate number of songs that have the same Power Chord progression, but these are weird ass chords.

WTF!!! How can you say that if you haven't even see the chords! They are Am G and Dm HOW ARE THEY WEIRD. There are only seven chords in each key, of course some songs will sound the same. Bloody hell. Mountain out of a molehill.

[BreakingBnj]

Do you guys realize that petty's song is sped up on this recording?

It's pure BS.

[Tim69]

it's possible to enter their minds subliminally. anyway its not the same!

[Guitar_Dude777]

wow i deff. hear it!!! thats shocking!

[el_strato]

^^yeah, it's the most bs I've heard all day. The grammer isn't even correct so i doubt the article is even true.

[AccidentsHappen]

There's alot of similarities if you ask me, it's not a total copy though. Some parts are very convincing though... I hope RHCP didn't do this meaningfully... damn

[Arkane]

yea but who cares really...the chilli peppers are allowed to get away with it. They might have done it purposely, they said in a guitarworld interview that they used a few classic rock riffs in this album.

[unlearn27]

You're a ****ing idiot if you say this is plagiarism, It's the same progression, different keys, I've played along with both. Bands repeat their own progressions occasionally in different songs and people don't know it. This is not the worst example.

[blinnk16]

Petty's song is sped up, yeah. It's the same chord progression, so what? When he starts singing it doesn't sound much the same. Think of all the songs you have to be careful of to not have the same chord progession, while keeping on top of lyrics, thousand of fans, so much for these guys to watch out for, I'm sure they weren't sitting back listening to Mary Jane's Last dance and going.. hey that sounds good, lets play it like that only faster!

[dazzler16]

Their are similarities but so what i know both songs and i like both songs and you get some ahole complaining abt this he prob just cudnt cut it in the music business so he decided he'd rag on famous ppl

[forty-six_and_2]

Bloody hell there's soo many comments here. Just like when there's 'Tallica news all the fan boys come in and all the Megadeth fan boys bitch and whine. Now it's RHCP fan boys mainly, and some people who can actually accept the truth. They plagerised it. Get over it. They did and it's an awful thing. It's a letdown really. They're cretive enough to write their own songs so why don't they? Bad days I assume?

[forty-six_and_2]

Arkane wrote:

yea but who cares really...the chilli peppers are allowed to get away with it. They might have done it purposely, they said in a guitarworld interview that they used a few classic rock riffs in this album.

Oh get a ****ing life. If it was Tom Petty who plagerized the song you'd all be bitching about it and flaming Tom Petty. The RHCP have too many fan boys. They plagerized it and it's shameful. Admit it.

[kbass9267]

A lot of songs sound the same. Doesn't mean one artist plagerized the other.

[Pistachio81]

so many bands in the era of the who's album tommy snagged alot of melodies and chord progressions from the great album.

back then it was called influence, now in our PC decade it's called plagarism.

rchp and tom petty are both great musicians, quite laid back i doubt alot will come out of this ordeal just because some DJ uses his influence to project his own opinions

[Pistachio81]

so many bands in the era of the who's album tommy snagged alot of melodies and chord progressions from the great album.

back then it was called influence, now in our PC decade it's called plagarism.

i doubt alot will come out of this ordeal just because some DJ uses his influence to project his own opinions

[StratEnRegalia]

Tom Petty probably wouldn't care too much. In fact, he's one who talks about how shit does end up similar due to format constraints. The chords are pretty damn common. There are only so many things that can be done with something like that, he believes. I don't think he's a guy who'd be such an open hypocrite and actually sue.

[Axlthegreat]

H_Zula wrote:

I forgot to mention that other bands have also ripped off others. The greatest one that I found was Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. I was playing the song and my mom mentioned to be that it was an old song from the 60's!
I didn't really believe her until she was singing it and I recently went to a mexican resturant and on the jukebox I heard it! I flipped out because I thought that was the best Pearl Jam song ever. Another band who does something like this was The Click Five. Yeah, I know that's kinda expected but yeah...Music won't be orginal forever, so get used to it

lol I got a kick outta this, it's called a cover song dude, musicians do it all the time. The best cover song imo way better than lass kiss would be train kept a rollin by Aerosmith.