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Roger Waters Slams Hillary Clinton

artist: roger waters date: 04/14/2008 category: general music news
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:28 am
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Kalbad :
Honestly this shows he knows squat about politics.... Im following the elections religiously and invading Iran is something no-body will want to do... The States had to ask Saddam to do it for them... And Iran will not be pushovers like Iraq... They will fight to the death!!! Not hide behind civillians like the cowardly insurgents in Iraq!!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:43 am / quote |
Kalbad :
Oah and I worship Pink Floyd as well!!!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:44 am / quote |
M.O.P :
Roger Waters for President!

Pink Floyd rules!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:44 am / quote |
Robbertto :
-woosh-

Roger Waters!

-woosh-

vote BARACK! >

-woosh-

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:03 am / quote |
Robbertto :
stupid auto smileys! D:<

>:'D there we go!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:04 am / quote |
duncang :
That's nice.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:04 am / quote |
ValoRhoads :
I somewhat agree with Roger, I don't know if she'll go that far but she will try to make her mark.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:09 am / quote |
Robin_OldSchool :
so what if they invade Iran, they want to destroy western civilization ! so that also includes your music Roger Waters...
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:15 am / quote |
MegaRon :
It's odd how Roger Waters and I always seem to agree on things.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:22 am / quote |
TheHobbes :
Philadelphia Primary eh? I do believe the ENTIRE state gets to cast a vote
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:23 am / quote |
Spirit_Crusher :
neither clinton nor obama will get us out of iraq, and we'll probably go into iran no matter what. at least john mccain is honest about it.

ron paul '08.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:24 am / quote |
hobo467 :
Friggin' thinks he knows everything... I hate when musicians shoot their mouth off about politics.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:27 am / quote |
FRDesign :
M.O.P wrote:

Roger Waters for President!

Pink Floyd rules!
WATERS FOR PRESIDENT

w00t

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:28 am / quote |
thejester :
celebrities and political views is like oil and water to me. they dont mix and i dont give a crap what they say.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:36 am / quote |
Comeback Kiddd :
I hope John McCain doesnt win. :/
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:45 am / quote |
spazzymagee :
ValoRhoads wrote:

I somewhat agree with Roger, I don't know if she'll go that far but she will try to make her mark.


Bullseye. Clinton will deploy the 6th fleet, and the 7th 8th and 9th, just to protect US National Interest. In this world you either come from Fear with your actions, or you come from Love. Hillary chooses....

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:49 am / quote |
ApolloTSI :
amen mavint..keep the face-melting here and the politics elsewhere.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:54 am / quote |
Sloofus :
electricinferno wrote:

Robin_OldSchool wrote:

so what if they invade Iran, they want to destroy western civilization ! so that also includes your music Roger Waters...


that is a pretty ****ing ignorant thing to say


Actually... considering the political leadership of Iran, it's not that ignorant. Maybe not every citizen of the country, but the people with power? Yeah I'm willing to bet they hate us quite a bit and would invade/conquer/destroy western countries if they could.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:03 am / quote |
copet :
mavint1, apparently everyone who posted before you cares, and I care, and most people after me will care. Roger Waters is a guitarist after all, and was part of one of the best bands in the world.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:03 am / quote |
thedarkblues06 :
You know, there comes a point where I have to say enough is enough. I mean, it's interesting about Waters and all, but I mean...does EVERY SINGLE thing relating to a musician have to be posted? I thought I drew the line at musicians' relationships, like Wentz and Simpson, and open bashing articles, but I think he have to draw the line somewhere, like politics, domestic affairs, etc.

Waters for President? THAT would be news worthy. Zakk Wylde and BLS stop in for a bite at the Dairy Queen while talking about how bad some random unsigned band/someone famous/politician/etc sucks? I mean, really...

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:15 am / quote |
boxcarblink94 :
roger just sounds stupid to me right now.

and this is coming from one of his most devoted fans.

i love everything he's done.

but his statements above are just ridiculous.

and by the way, **** hillary AND barack. voting mccain for sure.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:24 am / quote |
csguitar :
yes lets invade another country and mess up our economy more, if anyone here is around 20 years old and knows basic economics our generation is known as the generation that is going to need to save the economy. If this is true that hildawg wants to invade Iran, if she is elected I believe we will have a whole other problem. The stock market is going down we are already in deep debt from the war, maybe we will see another depression? Someone needs to put a sneuk in that womans snizz to take her off of the power trip she might be given the oppertunity to embark on.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:24 am / quote |
 
 m 
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Checked!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:26 am / quote |
voodoochilli499 :
I didn't realize Philadelphia got it's own primary. That's special.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:28 am / quote |
titopuente :
Nobody's mentioning the fact that Hillary DIDN'T WIN TEXAS!! Obama got more delegates than she did from that state. It's ridiculous.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
csguitar :
and i also agree with darkblues, I dont understand why everthing that is said by a musician or actor has to be taken into such context. For once I would like to see the media just cover the presidency, if no opinions were given maybe for once everyone would think for themselves and not follow what some muli millionair has to say. Only 10% (or close to) of the population makes over $100,000 a year. People that make this much money dont really have to worry about our country's situation because they live so comfortably. If America was to lose its rank as a superpower and started being bullied a celeb can move out of the country much easier than say a teacher or a cop.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:34 am / quote |
killyoutonight :
Comeback Kiddd wrote:

I hope John McCain doesnt win. :/


I don't want any of them to win. I think no matter what we are screwed now. Just hoping the lesser of the three evils will win. That is probably McCain...sadly...I still think we are screwed. Obama and Clinton have been caught in lies. Clinton is so fake, she lies about things and pretends she is something she isn't to get people to vote for her...yes, everyone does it but it is so obvious with her more obvious than it was with Kerry, I believe.

thejester wrote:

celebrities and political views is like oil and water to me. they dont mix and i dont give a crap what they say.


Celebrities don't know sh*t about politics, I agree. They are stupid as hell...for the most part. Not saying waters is because he is a musical genius.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:41 am / quote |
papersun87 :
Sounds like it's time for Animals, pt. II.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:48 am / quote |
killyoutonight :
And why do people care what a celebrity thinks any way? most of them are stupid hippie liberals...they are all the same and we know what they are going to say.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:58 am / quote |
evening_crow :
titopuente wrote:

Nobody's mentioning the fact that Hillary DIDN'T WIN TEXAS!! Obama got more delegates than she did from that state. It's ridiculous.


Hillary DID WIN TEXAS!!! The popular vote went for her but Obama did get the majority of the delegate votes since this year Texas did a different approach to the Democratic elections in which things were split up.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:01 pm / quote |
smidy :
Love his music but theres no way in hell thats gonna happen. She aint that stupid. She should drop out though.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:02 pm / quote |
Sam Mézec :
Sloofus wrote:

electricinferno wrote:

Robin_OldSchool wrote:

so what if they invade Iran, they want to destroy western civilization ! so that also includes your music Roger Waters...


that is a pretty ****ing ignorant thing to say


Actually... considering the political leadership of Iran, it's not that ignorant. Maybe not every citizen of the country, but the people with power? Yeah I'm willing to bet they hate us quite a bit and would invade/conquer/destroy western countries if they could.



They have every right to hate the western world, and thats because we are the ones that ****ed their world up.

McCain is just some bitter old war veteran who finds it funny to make jokes about bombing Iran.

Clinton will just be exactly the same as the other Clinton was.

Obama is the most open minded of the lot, and realised how unpopular thye USA is internationally and is going to try and fix it.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:07 pm / quote |
some_rock_fan :
I agree. Barack isn't ideal but I'd rather see him win than Hillary. But, I'm Canadian so there's not much I can do.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:09 pm / quote |
Metal_Rich :
copet wrote:
Roger Waters is a guitarist after all, and was part of one of the best bands in the world.

Opinion =/= Fact

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:15 pm / quote |
ZedLeppy :
+1 Roger, +1.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:24 pm / quote |
Lamb of Deth :
wow this guy sounds pissed, thats all I can say for sure
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
Haveacigar :
Is he even an American Citizen? Yea, so his word doesn't really matter, though I do agree with him. Hilary is awful. Love Pink Floyd though!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
cmac989 :
Now, I haven't made my final decision on who I will vote for, but something has always bothered me...

IRAN OPENLY SPONSORS THE PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED US, NOT IRAQ!

They are the ones we should have gone after in the first place, but Christian Bush didn't want to start a holy war by going after a nation ruled by religion who attacked us on religious grounds. And yes, by sponsoring terrorists they themselves, in effect, attacked us. But Bush realized he had to f*** someone up, so he made up a story about Iraq having WMDs. I would have applauded a war in Iran, because it was actually justified. I'm afraid the time may have passed to correct that mistake, though.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
proguitarist11 :
lol this is why politics don't belong on a guitar website. I hate politics. for this reason.
NO ONE knows exactly what is going on. everyone has a different opinion, and rarely do people agree on anything having to do with politics.
music, on the other hand, those of us who truly love music have a hard time disagreeing on anything. i say we just abolish politics altogether and hang Hilary.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
Letterbomb11 :
I can't wait for the day that a celebrity comes out and openly bashes Obama...
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:32 pm / quote |
SoftParade1967 :
YEAH ROGER WATERS!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:35 pm / quote |
lv&die2L :
I find it deeply offensive when an artist tells me how to vote. I GUARRANTEE, I follow politics 10 times more religiously than Mr Waters. Just play your goddamn little songs and shUt the **** up!!! You can plainly see from his comments that he does not have a very deep understanding of the Iranian situation what-so-ever. ARGH!!! I highly doubt we will ever "invade" Iran. We will however, be dragged into a conflict involving them eventually because the little psycho in charge over there believes it is his destiny to bring on the appocollyps (sp?) and destroy western civilization.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:43 pm / quote |
Illigx :
M.O.P wrote:

Roger Waters for President!

Pink Floyd rules!


He wouldnt make a good president, musicians seem to have a very one sided view on things, a good president (of the likes we havnt seen in a long while) can see both viewpoints.

TheHobbes wrote:

Philadelphia Primary eh? I do believe the ENTIRE state gets to cast a vote



Its the states primary, Debate in Philadelphia.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:46 pm / quote |
Illigx :
Sam Mézec wrote:

.....
Clinton will just be exactly the same as the other Clinton was.
.....


What? Shoving a cigar up her own snatch and having a poor young intern eat it out of her?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:48 pm / quote |
Baz1211991 :
Robin_OldSchool wrote:

so what if they invade Iran, they want to destroy western civilization ! so that also includes your music Roger Waters...


Ignorant idiot, only the religious nutcases do, its not like just because someone is a muslim means they're an extremist

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:51 pm / quote |
afratmdk :
go waters!!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:56 pm / quote |
y-e-a-r-z-e-r-o :
HA OWNED!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 12:57 pm / quote |
WildthingJR :
I'm wondering whether everyone on here who says musicians don't know shit about politics, know something about politics themselves?
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:08 pm / quote |
chris14579 :
first off we should bomb iran, but clinton and obama are too pussy to do so. roger waters isnt even american he should go **** himself no one cares about his opinion

mccain 08

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:09 pm / quote |
recliner33 :
WildthingJR wrote:

I'm wondering whether everyone on here who says musicians don't know shit about politics, know something about politics themselves?

Yeah good point. There seems to be alot of talk but no facts to back it up. I have views about this but I'm not going to get into it because I am not entirely up to date with the situation and stating your political views on a guitar website would be just as stupid as talking about your homemade cinnamon buns recipe on a porno site.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:29 pm / quote |
Shread_6009 :
the problem s 3 things:

1- hilary knows shit about politics, she was first lady, not vice president. honestly, that the only reason she got to be a senator.

2- the democrats are so split between obama and hilary, that however gets chosen as head of the democratic party, the people that wanted the loser will vote for mccain to spite the winner.

3. MCain's claim to fame to be president was that he fought in vietnam, but he was a POW, so he didnt do much fighting, and the war was illegal, and we lost. he'll star WW3, then he will inderictly cause WW4

VOTE RONNIE JAMES DIO, ITS OUR ONLY HOPE

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:59 pm / quote |
perilouspete :
if he's that sold on Barack Obama then I can't take anything Roger has to take about politics seriously....
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:59 pm / quote |
Fuzzbox91 :
I was wondering where the hell he was. Waters rules!!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 01:59 pm / quote |
munkyboy99 :
Kalbad wrote:

Honestly this shows he knows squat about politics.... Im following the elections religiously and invading Iran is something no-body will want to do... The States had to ask Saddam to do it for them... And Iran will not be pushovers like Iraq... They will fight to the death!!! Not hide behind civillians like the cowardly insurgents in Iraq!!


Cowardly insurgents in Iraq hiding behind civilians?...they ARE civilians jackass! pissed off ones who are tired of having people in their neighbourhoods blown up by INVADING troops.
I don't believe you would enjoy that and you would do the same and the opposing forces government would label you "insurgents" and "terrorists" too. get your shit straight ffs.

And as for invading Iran do you think she honestly cares? The threat of Iran is nuclear so they are a "BIG THREAT" but North Korea has nukes and your stupid government doesn't care hmm why would that be? maybe b/c they don't have anything to gain from invading.
I'm sure she wouldn't jump to and invasion but she probably eventually would, or at least like to, besides do you actually think she is the one running her life/ her administration when she is in office?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:00 pm / quote |
studwig :
Muscians can have a political voice as well. Look at John Lennon his almost got him kicked out of the US. They just have the luxiory of people listening. People want to know what they think. They have just as much of a right to an opinion as anybody else. I mean i could go to the opinion section of any paper and blast their opinion but i don't give a damn what Joe Nobody thinks I want to know what Roger Frickin Waters thinks. Everybody here says I don't care what Roger says but you all did click on the topic and you took the time to read what he thinks.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:09 pm / quote |
Shread_6009 :
oh BTW waters would make a good president; people seem to think that musicians shouldnt be posting political views and stuff, but just beacause you sell multi-platinum, doesnt mean you cant have an opinion about politic. the only difference between rogers and other politicians was that he isnt a wealthy heir to an oil family. were all people, we should all have an equal chance to be a part of the political system.

i think any high-level college honour student should be allowed to run for president, as long they're chosen field has to do with politics AND economics, instead of the billionaire, C-student, buiseness men we got now.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:09 pm / quote |
therescue06 :
"Roger Waters Slams Hillary Clinton"

dont tell me im the only one who got that.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:09 pm / quote |
TSCREAM420 :
as much as i love pink floyd, I really dont care for Waters. He is the reason Pink Floyd are not still together, but then again I think Gilmour's On an Island was better than anything Waters has done since The Wall.

I also find this irrelevent, for the simple fact that.....HE IS NOT A DAMN AMERICAN!!!!!

SO WHO REALLY GIVES A SH#@t WHAT HE THINKS!!!

SHUT UP AND CALL DAVID GILMOUR, HE WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU!!!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:13 pm / quote |
Rasta Dogg :
Spirit_Crusher wrote:

neither clinton nor obama will get us out of iraq, and we'll probably go into iran no matter what. at least john mccain is honest about it.

ron paul '08.


well said, sir

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:13 pm / quote |
uberphreak :
therescue06 wrote:

"Roger Waters Slams Hillary Clinton"

dont tell me im the only one who got that.


I tried not to think about it like that, since that picture would probably haunt my dreams forever.

Wait... crap.

Anyway, I personally detest Billary Clinton, and think she's a dishonest, lying shitbag. She shares many views politically with Obama, whom I support, but she does not seem sincere regarding most of these things. She's already been caught in multiple blatant lies, so I don't know why anyone would ****ing vote for her.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:17 pm / quote |
uberphreak :
Just to clarify on my last post, I only support Obama because Ron Paul has no hope of winning.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:18 pm / quote |
therescue06 :
TSCREAM420 wrote:

as much as i love pink floyd, I really dont care for Waters. He is the reason Pink Floyd are not still together, but then again I think Gilmour's On an Island was better than anything Waters has done since The Wall.

I also find this irrelevent, for the simple fact that.....HE IS NOT A DAMN AMERICAN!!!!!

SO WHO REALLY GIVES A SH#@t WHAT HE THINKS!!!

SHUT UP AND CALL DAVID GILMOUR, HE WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU!!!



Actually, Gilmour doesnt want to play again. Get your **** straight.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:20 pm / quote |
motorbreath_445 :
Clinton and Obama next face off against each other in the Philadelphia primary on April 22nd.
ok, call me crazy, but Philadelphia is a CITY, wouldn't it be the Pennsylvania primary instead?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:30 pm / quote |
ShaDoW0lf :
chris14579 wrote:

first off we should bomb iran, but clinton and obama are too pussy to do so. roger waters isnt even american he should go **** himself no one cares about his opinion

mccain 08


So, because outsiders aren't American, they shouldn't state their views about the leadership of the country which in effect leads the entire world? Especially if our economies depend on its stability, and it's recklessly jumping into wars for reasons which are either highly misguided or clouded by conspiracy? Yeah, take your warmongering elsewhere, your country is a faulty superpower, and needs to fix its problems before its economy collapses and drags us down with it.
Barack 08.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:33 pm / quote |
RHCP603 :
Hey, it's really ignorant to say that a musicians opinions doesn't matter. They are people too, and they get to vote. Waters can't, but you know, maybe you should form your own opinions and not exactly attack other people because of thier ideas. Hate me for saying what i think is right, but that's his opinion. I mean, let other people have an opinion and stop being so ignorant to the fact that everyone has thier own ideas. If you don't have anything contructive to say, yes, i'm taking to you "F*@K Waters" and "BOMB IRAN" people. That's NOT constructive and i know i'm being hypocritical to what i said, but if you have somthing like that to say, say it in a constructive way that backs your opinion and don't trash other people's opinions to make a point for yours.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:35 pm / quote |
dmaccy06 :
Bono for president.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:38 pm / quote |
TLO421 :
papersun87 wrote:

Sounds like it's time for Animals, pt. II.


LMAO HAHAHHAHA i was thinking the same thing... hey you clinton HAHA CHARADE YOU ARE you ****ed up old hag

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:39 pm / quote |
HICKORYsmokes :
I may be wrong, but I don't think Iran has a Republican Guard
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:41 pm / quote |
gallagher2006 :
Please, shut up. You're a musician, not a politician.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:42 pm / quote |
Powerpro :
I dont give a crap about Hillary but I'm really likeing Waters a lot LESS the more he runs his mouth about politics. It's like nothing is ever good enough for him, standard liberal elitist attitude.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
Menza_ :
I would really like for Obama to Win.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 02:57 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
checked.

I wouldn't mind an Animals Pt. II

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:03 pm / quote |
CFHguitar :
musicians should just stay out of politics
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:03 pm / quote |
firsttoknow :
boxcarblink94 wrote:

roger just sounds stupid to me right now.

and this is coming from one of his most devoted fans.

i love everything he's done.

but his statements above are just ridiculous.

and by the way, **** hillary AND barack. voting mccain for sure.


i can tell by your name and post that you have an AWESOME taste in music...Blink, Box Car Racer and Pink Floyd are three of my favorite bands.
but for the love of god, dont vote mccain. the only thing i agree with him on is legalization of sweet mary jane...but looking at the serious issues, im voting for obama. cuz you know hes gonna win the nomination since hes better than clinton

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |
Ibeatonthebrat :
right. well...he's just as stupid as all the other Obama fans. Honestly, everyone's just jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sure Obama's a great guy, but he's not the right guy for the situation. His fans are something else. If you say you're going for Hillary, then they're all, "You're a racist!" Shit, this election isn't about race. It's about dickweed getting out of office and cleaning up his mess just like a little kid.

Sorry, Roger

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:31 pm / quote |
blues-guitarist :
Hilary-Voted for war and supported NAFTA

Obama-Voted for the Patriot act and to continue the war in Iraq

McCain-Do i even need to write something? They guy thinks that Iraq is better now than before and thinks that the US is "spreading democracy"

They're all the same :/

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:32 pm / quote |
spacebass45 :
i like how there have been multiple posts declaring that waters should become president. i assume it was in jest, but of course he won't be president (not american born???)
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:36 pm / quote |
Unskathed :
munkyboy99 wrote:

Kalbad wrote:

Honestly this shows he knows squat about politics.... Im following the elections religiously and invading Iran is something no-body will want to do... The States had to ask Saddam to do it for them... And Iran will not be pushovers like Iraq... They will fight to the death!!! Not hide behind civillians like the cowardly insurgents in Iraq!!

Cowardly insurgents in Iraq hiding behind civilians?...they ARE civilians jackass! pissed off ones who are tired of having people in their neighbourhoods blown up by INVADING troops.
I don't believe you would enjoy that and you would do the same and the opposing forces government would label you "insurgents" and "terrorists" too. get your shit straight ffs.

And as for invading Iran do you think she honestly cares? The threat of Iran is nuclear so they are a "BIG THREAT" but North Korea has nukes and your stupid government doesn't care hmm why would that be? maybe b/c they don't have anything to gain from invading.
I'm sure she wouldn't jump to and invasion but she probably eventually would, or at least like to, besides do you actually think she is the one running her life/ her administration when she is in office?


Naw dude, we're pretty nice to them over there. A lot of the civilians in Iraq love us being around.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:37 pm / quote |
zoso rld :
chris14579 wrote:

first off we should bomb iran, but clinton and obama are too pussy to do so. roger waters isnt even american he should go **** himself no one cares about his opinion

mccain 08

Agreed

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 03:57 pm / quote |
zoso rld :
uberphreak wrote:

Just to clarify on my last post, I only support Obama because Ron Paul has no hope of winning.

It's funny when you get down to political ideology Ron Paul is really a strict constuctionist. He is in fact more of a republican than any of the other candidates and holds true to the original conservative view points... But because of the situation at hand he's made to look like a liberal who is confused as to which ticket he wants to run under.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:04 pm / quote |
IRONMAIDENTLICA :
i disagree with mccain 08 because i have a feeling if he gets in he will bring back the draft, but at the same time neither democrat is a great choice, i think ill end up wtih barrack though
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:09 pm / quote |
JS5150 :
thejester wrote:

celebrities and political views is like oil and water to me. they dont mix and i dont give a crap what they say.


Yes, but I agree with him. Go Obama. At least for the Democrats. I don't know who I'm voting for in the general election yet.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:23 pm / quote |
Guns 'n Roses57 :
I thought he lived in England
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:24 pm / quote |
iron_maiden93 :
lol anyone else think that the title of the article meant that they were having sex?
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:32 pm / quote |
lv&die2L :
IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

i disagree with mccain 08 because i have a feeling if he gets in he will bring back the draft, but at the same time neither democrat is a great choice, i think ill end up wtih barrack though


Just a minor correction, McCain, is FIRMLY against the draft. The ONLY people talking about it are far LEFT democrats. It will NEVER again happen because the Generals and other commanders are absolutley opposed to ANY draft. So, just don't let the media fool you. Republicans will NEVER EVER support a draft again. It has been discussed and all are in agreement that it was a mistake before and will be again, if implemented,

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:41 pm / quote |
asaber89 :
iron_maiden93 wrote:

lol anyone else think that the title of the article meant that they were having sex?

LOL!!!!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 04:45 pm / quote |
Insomnia57 :
pinko shitbag....heheh...
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:04 pm / quote |
psychokiller99 :
i think it's funny that a lot of people on here are saying "musicians don't know shit about politics. their opinion really shouldn't matter. who cares what roger waters has to say" well gee aren't we all musicians, and didn't you all click on the damn link to read the article and take the time to make a comment. go figure. you are all very intelligent.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:08 pm / quote |
valentinezxifax :
Woo! Obama 08!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:10 pm / quote |
diditfortehlulz :
GO ROGER! ROGER!

Roger is a ****ing genius, so I suggest you all heed his word.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:11 pm / quote |
hellraiser1133 :
[quote=DownInAHole]checked.

I wouldn't mind an Animals Pt. II[/quote]

I WISH!!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:14 pm / quote |
nexteyenate :
umm..there's a typo. It should be "Pennsylvania Primary" not "Philadelphia Primary"
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:18 pm / quote |
AngerIsAGift06 :
STICK IT TO EM WATERS!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:20 pm / quote |
nscar :
looks like Floyd just lost his spot in the woodstock HOF
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:21 pm / quote |
gtrplyr54 :
I love Waters and his music, but he needs to pipe down, he's not even American. I think McCain should fit the job.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:33 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
Kalbad wrote:
Not hide behind civillians like the cowardly insurgents in Iraq!!


actually, the only reason Iraqi insurgents have lasted as long as they have is because they have hidden. any country that openly opposes the US in a full on war will have the shit beaten out of them. the Iraqis were smart enough to realize this. Iran is not going to win an open war against the USA.

He makes a fair point, but i really don't think there's enough of a difference between Obama and Clinton to actually despise one and support the other.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:48 pm / quote |
RHCPfan01 :
I didn't know that Philly had it's own primary lol
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:58 pm / quote |
keithmoon15 :
politics is dumb
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Die Die Mcr!! :
"any country that openly opposes the US in a full on war will have the shit beaten out of them." yeah even the english get shot by the u.s.... go waters go waters uuh huuh uuh hhuuuh its your birthday go waters go waters. slam ****on slam ****on mmmhmmmmm oh yeah .. go obama go its your birthday too wooo hooo
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:02 pm / quote |
Die Die Mcr!! :
i said Hilary C - U - N - T - O - N sucks orangutan nuts
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:03 pm / quote |
MegaRon :
You know, it's funny, people say that his opinion doesn't matter because he isn't an American, but then people openly state their opinion on bombing Iran! We shouldn't stick our nose in Iran's business because, as someone else stated, they will fight to the death. They have more people than we could ever hope to recruit and they would ultimately crush us. You know how we could have solved this whole nuclear "problem"? By helping them with it when they wanted to discuss it with us! But oh, no, we turned them away. Who did they go to? Russia. And Putin has let it be known that if we **** with Iran, we will be in very big trouble with the Russians. Besides, Iran's only got 5% enriched uranium. Anyone else know how much it takes to build a nuclear warhead? About 95%. Iran's not. Even. Close. And people continue to insist that we bomb them because their leader is a religious nutjob. Hate to tell you guys, our leader is a religious nutjob, too. Pot, this is kettle. Kettle, pot. As for McCain '08... are we really in that sad of shape that we need to rely on JOHN McCAIN, a man who wants to spend A HUNDRED YEARS IN IRAQ?! That is the absolute LAST thing this country needs. To all the people who said Roger's opinion doesn't matter because he's a musician, have you noticed what site your on? Pretty much all the visitors are musicians! Does that mean our opinion doesn't matter, either? I'd like to think that's not the case.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:04 pm / quote |
IlikeMetal :
gtrplyr54 wrote:

I love Waters and his music, but he needs to pipe down, he's not even American. I think McCain should fit the job.


If McCain gets elected, we WILL go to war with Iran. At least with Obama (he's got my vote) and Hillary the chances are a heck of a lot less. You have to respect McCain for what he did in the military, but you cannot elect someone that is so willing to toss aside diplomacy.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:07 pm / quote |
MegaRon :
you're* (Damn. That whole diatribe and I didn't even notice that one typo. *Headdesk*)
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:09 pm / quote |
Hamham272 :
Unskathed wrote:

Naw dude, we're pretty nice to them over there. A lot of the civilians in Iraq love us being around.


And where do you get your information? Fox news...? Come on they show that shit on TV to keep idiots (like half of America) happy with how the war is going. You ruined a whole damn country on the basis of things that didn't exist... WMD's anyone?

chris14579 wrote:

first off we should bomb iran, but clinton and obama are too pussy to do so. roger waters isnt even american he should go **** himself no one cares about his opinion

mccain 08


So because we ain't American we arn't allowed to have an opinion on the most influential country in the world? That pretty much makes the rest of your comment appear idiotic... which it is. I'd rather listen to Roger Waters than George Bush (or Hillary or especially McCain), he was in a band that just so happened to be slightly political. His political opinion should be heard, because to rally people to this cause and or any other cause you need a spokesperson, and I don't see a US candidate speaking the truth or anything that would really make the world a better place. (Iraq is better now McCain?)

And why the hell bomb Iran? USA has nukes, does everyone tell them to stop making nukes? No... cos' they're the "good guys" blowing up countries.

TSCREAM420 wrote:

as much as i love pink floyd, I really dont care for Waters. He is the reason Pink Floyd are not still together, but then again I think Gilmour's On an Island was better than anything Waters has done since The Wall.

I also find this irrelevent, for the simple fact that.....HE IS NOT A DAMN AMERICAN!!!!!

SO WHO REALLY GIVES A SH#@t WHAT HE THINKS!!!

SHUT UP AND CALL DAVID GILMOUR, HE WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU!!!


Thank you for showing your very bright opinion that no one cares about...

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:20 pm / quote |
gitarzero89 :
why is everyone saying "Roger Waters for president"? the man doesn't even have the citizenship to vote in America, much less run for president.

either hillary or barack would be terrible. i'm not too keen on McCain (Huckabee 2012!), but i'd sooner vote for him. at least he knows how to keep a strong military. and he's NOT literally going to keep us in iraq for 100 years, he's just saying he's committed to seeing it all the way through, instead of pulling out and leaving the terrorists to shoot us in the back as we walk away.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:26 pm / quote |
dieloony2 :
Agreed. Hillary has to much of a sense of entitlement. Obama is superior and fresh.

It's funny how they tell you "you could be president someday" when your a kid, But then have a country ran by 2 families in 20 years

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:31 pm / quote |
Chickenfrmheck :
damn!
i was hoping for a fist fight or something.
maybe the slamming of a bass guitar over her head?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:32 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
wow. first of all, do i REALLY have to tell you that McCain's 100 years statement wasn't literal? REALLY?! are you that ****ing retarded? he was saying that he would stay in Iraq just long enough, he would not cut and run as Hillary and Barack plan to. backing out now, and you put the last 8 years to waste. stay in for the long run, and you WILL end up with a better middle east. it may not be as efficient as we'd like, but there IS progress.

Hamham, you are a ****ing dolt. you really think FOX is the misleading network??? why? because its the only network on television that isn't COMPLETELY liberally biased?!! you say they only show the good, which, if you actually watched it for more than one minute you would see isn't true at all! in fact, news networks are showing the bad far more often and thoroughly than they show any positives. i mean, just look at the ****ing approval ratings you ****. do you think the would be so low if everybody was over exaggerating the positives? **** no they wouldn't be. the reason everybody thinks the war is going to shit is because that is exactly what the media is telling them.

Megaron: Putin doesn't have shit on the USA. he has no teeth. and please, englighten me as to how Bush is a religious nutjob. i'd love to hear more of your ignorant babble.

Waters made an opinion that is pretty much accepted by the public, yet you ****s went and dragged it out with your uneducated biased drivel.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
TSCREAM420 :
therescue06 wrote:

TSCREAM420 wrote:

as much as i love pink floyd, I really dont care for Waters. He is the reason Pink Floyd are not still together, but then again I think Gilmour's On an Island was better than anything Waters has done since The Wall.

I also find this irrelevent, for the simple fact that.....HE IS NOT A DAMN AMERICAN!!!!!

SO WHO REALLY GIVES A SH#@t WHAT HE THINKS!!!

SHUT UP AND CALL DAVID GILMOUR, HE WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU!!!



Actually, Gilmour doesnt want to play again. Get your **** straight.


ummm no, you get yor s%#t straight buddy..after Live 8 all members of Floyd were asked about a reunion and all agreed it would be special and were all open to it....when Water's was asked about the reunion, he replied by saying...."you just saw it!"

so if u are going to come at me like an a$$h*&e, come correct!!!!

And the only reason why David Gilmour's On an Island wasnt labeled a Pink Floyd record was because Water's sewed them, and during the time wen Gilmour was getting the line-up for On an Island, he made Mason sign a contract to agree to work with no one but Water's during a certain time frame, that tie frame happened to be when Gilour was recording On an Island!!!

Again, if you are going to come to me lke that on an online forum, COME CORRECT!!!!

POS!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:38 pm / quote |
axis56 :
hobo467 wrote:

Friggin' thinks he knows everything... I hate when musicians shoot their mouth off about politics.


theyve got as muchright as you to

if your not turned on to politics politics will turn on you

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Hamham272 :
MTVget0FFtheAIR wrote:

wow. first of all, do i REALLY have to tell you that McCain's 100 years statement wasn't literal? REALLY?! are you that ****ing retarded? he was saying that he would stay in Iraq just long enough, he would not cut and run as Hillary and Barack plan to. backing out now, and you put the last 8 years to waste. stay in for the long run, and you WILL end up with a better middle east. it may not be as efficient as we'd like, but there IS progress.

Hamham, you are a ****ing dolt. you really think FOX is the misleading network??? why? because its the only network on television that isn't COMPLETELY liberally biased?!! you say they only show the good, which, if you actually watched it for more than one minute you would see isn't true at all! in fact, news networks are showing the bad far more often and thoroughly than they show any positives. i mean, just look at the ****ing approval ratings you ****. do you think the would be so low if everybody was over exaggerating the positives? **** no they wouldn't be. the reason everybody thinks the war is going to shit is because that is exactly what the media is telling them.

Megaron: Putin doesn't have shit on the USA. he has no teeth. and please, englighten me as to how Bush is a religious nutjob. i'd love to hear more of your ignorant babble.

Waters made an opinion that is pretty much accepted by the public, yet you ****s went and dragged it out with your uneducated biased drivel.


No I was using Fox as an example... all American TV is biased in some way. The war in Iraq is a joke and most people outside the US actually see this cos they don't have pro war or even anti war messages shoved down their throats every day. I don't watch American TV by the fact I DON'T live in the USA. Thank ****ing god for that.

Bush is a religious nut job. He is trying to enforce one religion on the whole country by saying that gay marriage is wrong etc. His religious opinions SHOULD NOT be political. Me biased? Your whole ****ing county is run like that. You only have two partys running for president, some states get more of a say than others, part of the election is based on raising money... AND two families have ruled the USA for the last 20 years! (like that dosn't say anything) My opinion ain't biased it's just not American.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:54 pm / quote |
Shread_6009 :
This is stupid. please. firstly, IRAN HAS NO NUKES!!! its been proven. they don't even have nuclear power.next, IRAQ WASNT BUILDING NUKES. we got our oil, the most precious resource right now, so in 2003, a few months before the election year, we invaded a country. if you do your research, you'll know that reagen financed both iran and iraq in the gulf war. BOTH COUNTRIES. and guess who was Vice president. GEORGE H.W. BUSH SR.!!!next, ALL POLITICIANS ONLY CARE ABOUT THEYRE OWN WELL BEING. they get payed from 100, 000 dollars- 300,000 dollars a year, and all they do is say "yes" or "no" to a bill. its important, but it means that greedy buiseness men will try to take control, aplus THEY VOTE FOR AN INCREASE IN PA!!! in real life, you dont give yourself a raise. these guys can.

the system has failed, were not even a proper democracy anymore. Mccain will only make more war. hes a soldier ( FYI HE LOST IN VIETNAM!!!) plus, we got 26,000 more nukes than anyone else. if they try anything, they die 6000 times over. please stop this argument.

please

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:54 pm / quote |
NewsoftheWorld :
Only one man can save the world now.That man is

JOHN FRUSCIANTE

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:55 pm / quote |
VaiSatchLaiho :
I don't like it when people mix politics and music.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 06:58 pm / quote |
MegaRon :
MTVget0FFtheAIR wrote:
Megaron: Putin doesn't have shit on the USA. he has no teeth. and please, englighten me as to how Bush is a religious nutjob. i'd love to hear more of your ignorant babble.

Maybe Fox News didn't cover the press conference where Bush told a bunch of Amish people that he was basically God's vessel and that God speaks through him. As for Russia having no teeth: does the largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -a reported 40,000* tons of chemical weapons, 8,400** of which being nuclear - say anything to you?

* - 1997
** - 2005

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:00 pm / quote |
IRONxPANTERA :
Bil Cliton is coming to my school soon

i am a fan of him, but not his wife, nor am I huge about Obama but if I could i would vote for him

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:11 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
Hamham272 wrote:

No I was using Fox as an example... all American TV is biased in some way. The war in Iraq is a joke and most people outside the US actually see this cos they don't have pro war or even anti war messages shoved down their throats every day. I don't watch American TV by the fact I DON'T live in the USA. Thank ****ing god for that.

Bush is a religious nut job. He is trying to enforce one religion on the whole country by saying that gay marriage is wrong etc. His religious opinions SHOULD NOT be political. Me biased? Your whole ****ing county is run like that. You only have two partys running for president, some states get more of a say than others, part of the election is based on raising money... AND two families have ruled the USA for the last 20 years! (like that dosn't say anything) My opinion ain't biased it's just not American.


All information given in any way can hold a bias. Your statement is therefore pretty much meaningless. and you really think your nation's news doesn't come with its own bias and opinion on US foreign diplomacy?????

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:13 pm / quote |
Dmmrng :
Roger needs to go out there and write a few songs that don't completely blow. Can we say, "hello, i love you"? He's a smart guy, but i could give less of a crap what he thinks about american politics. Besides, Hillary isn't that bad. I'd prefer Obama, but I'd throw my vote to her if she won. We need to stop bickering and realize that they're basically the same ****ing candidate and only disagree on a couple very nitpicky ideals, like what flavor of popsicle is better. Correct me if i'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between them. We need to stop being so defensive of one or the other and concentrate on GETTING RID OF REPUBLICANS!!!!
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:18 pm / quote |
staind_dust87 :
What a moron, I hate to say it but most musicians don't know dick about politics and he'd be one of them. Just because you can play guitar dosen't mean you know any more about politics than me or anybody else. You might want to at least get an America citizenship before you go run your mouth about what you think is best for America. I say don't waste your time on Obama or Clinton.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:19 pm / quote |
Hamham272 :
MTVget0FFtheAIR wrote:

Hamham272 wrote:

No I was using Fox as an example... all American TV is biased in some way. The war in Iraq is a joke and most people outside the US actually see this cos they don't have pro war or even anti war messages shoved down their throats every day. I don't watch American TV by the fact I DON'T live in the USA. Thank ****ing god for that.

Bush is a religious nut job. He is trying to enforce one religion on the whole country by saying that gay marriage is wrong etc. His religious opinions SHOULD NOT be political. Me biased? Your whole ****ing county is run like that. You only have two partys running for president, some states get more of a say than others, part of the election is based on raising money... AND two families have ruled the USA for the last 20 years! (like that dosn't say anything) My opinion ain't biased it's just not American.

All information given in any way can hold a bias. Your statement is therefore pretty much meaningless. and you really think your nation's news doesn't come with its own bias and opinion on US foreign diplomacy?????


So you ignore half my post like it's "meaningless" then you tell me my opinion must be biased cos all TV MUST be biased, because America's is? No I watch multiple news channels, read things on the internet then form my OWN opinions on the facts that I can dig out of them. Yep well done smart guy.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:23 pm / quote |
punkrockdude2 :
why does some one in britain care about whats going in america?
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:25 pm / quote |
staind_dust87 :
If you don't even live in the USA, then I could really give a crap about what you think about my country. But that's just me.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:26 pm / quote |
Black Hole Sun :
Anyone know who Mike Gravel is? He's ****ing awesome. Look him up.

America has got to sort itself out before it tries to change the middle east into America V 2.0.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:27 pm / quote |
Black Hole Sun :
punkrockdude2 wrote:

why does some one in britain care about whats going in america?

He lives in New York. And this affects the whole world. You do realise countries affect each other. Y'know, with trade and, oh, I don't know... INVADING other countries for no reason at all.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:29 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
apologies for the double post

Any citizen old enough can run for president. there are absolutely no rules restricting the candidacy to two parties, which is why there are often independent candidates as well. there are simply 2 very dominant parties, and so all other parties don't stand much of a chance. your statement "two families have ruled the USA for the last 20 years!" is absolutely ridiculous. you are talking about 3 presidents. THREE! you phrase your fact in a way so as to exaggerate its actual meaning. 1) the actual fact is that our current president's father was the president before last. this is unfortunately not so outstanding and thus not such a powerful tool in your argument now is it? 2) our presidential position does not involve FAMILIES. so, essentially the fact that they are related is only significant in that it shows that the father was most likely a popular president. children often pursue the career of their parent, and in George W. Bush's position, he was well equipped with financial opportunities and fame to become a successful politician in his own right. 3) our presidents do not RULE the nation. this misconception is tied into the common theme of blaming the president solely for the nations economic problems. look at the last 3 incumbent presidents to lose a reelection. a. Herbert Hoover: not reelected during the Great Depression, b. Jimmy Carter: not reelected during a time of inflation and high unemployment, c. Bush Sr.: not reelected in a time of economic recession. in actuality, the president has little control over the economy. i'm suggesting that you don't know as much as you think you do about the US government. the president is not the King of America, and your attempts to portray the executive branch as a monarchy is futile.

as for Megaron, Russia's possession of WMD is simply a sign of their refusal to keep up with the times and a testament to why they are so mistrusted in current global politics. Putin has no teeth because any threat he makes is opposed by the whole of the UN.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:30 pm / quote |
dsotm73 :
YES, GO ROGER!

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:42 pm / quote |
d_byrne23 :
best title ever
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:46 pm / quote |
k00kie M0nster :
Spirit_Crusher wrote:

neither clinton nor obama will get us out of iraq, and we'll probably go into iran no matter what. at least john mccain is honest about it.

ron paul '08.

Nice one...

oh wait, were you being serious?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:46 pm / quote |
SlashNX :
Obama for president... altho I feel its a bit cheap for a Brit (and im a Brit) to say such strong statements about another countries elections.

Still I would be quite worried if Hilary or McCain were elected.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:47 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
zoso rld wrote:

uberphreak wrote:

Just to clarify on my last post, I only support Obama because Ron Paul has no hope of winning.
It's funny when you get down to political ideology Ron Paul is really a strict constuctionist. He is in fact more of a republican than any of the other candidates and holds true to the original conservative view points... But because of the situation at hand he's made to look like a liberal who is confused as to which ticket he wants to run under.


i completely agree. the modern era republicans possess more of a Big-Stick like aggressive foreign policy stance, whereas Paul actually sticks to traditional roles of conservatism. No income tax? sounds great to me.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:52 pm / quote |
blocsox90 :
Ron Paul '08 =)
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:53 pm / quote |
Hamham272 :
MTVget0FFtheAIR wrote:

apologies for the double post

Any citizen old enough can run for president. there are absolutely no rules restricting the candidacy to two parties, which is why there are often independent candidates as well. there are simply 2 very dominant parties, and so all other parties don't stand much of a chance. your statement "two families have ruled the USA for the last 20 years!" is absolutely ridiculous. you are talking about 3 presidents. THREE! you phrase your fact in a way so as to exaggerate its actual meaning. 1) the actual fact is that our current president's father was the president before last. this is unfortunately not so outstanding and thus not such a powerful tool in your argument now is it? 2) our presidential position does not involve FAMILIES. so, essentially the fact that they are related is only significant in that it shows that the father was most likely a popular president. children often pursue the career of their parent, and in George W. Bush's position, he was well equipped with financial opportunities and fame to become a successful politician in his own right. 3) our presidents do not RULE the nation. this misconception is tied into the common theme of blaming the president solely for the nations economic problems. look at the last 3 incumbent presidents to lose a reelection. a. Herbert Hoover: not reelected during the Great Depression, b. Jimmy Carter: not reelected during a time of inflation and high unemployment, c. Bush Sr.: not reelected in a time of economic recession. in actuality, the president has little control over the economy. i'm suggesting that you don't know as much as you think you do about the US government. the president is not the King of America, and your attempts to portray the executive branch as a monarchy is futile.

as for Megaron, Russia's possession of WMD is simply a sign of their refusal to keep up with the times and a testament to why they are so mistrusted in current global politics. Putin has no teeth because any threat he makes is opposed by the whole of the UN.


Oooo lets make a list like you did:

1. Did i mention anywhere in my post anything about the president ruling the economy? No... Hurrah for useless arguments.

2. I didn't exaggerate anything, I stated it.

3. If having money is part of what it takes to become president obviously the system is corrupt.

4. If Hillary Clinton makes it as president thats even longer...

5. I never said the president rules the country, they just happen to be the guy that tells everyone the decisions the rich powerful suits have made and claim it as their own glorious decision. If the president was a good one and actually tried to make a difference and made their own decisions for the good of the world and not his pockets, we would see a repetition of well, JFK. Good good, corrupt ****ing American politics.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:57 pm / quote |
Hamham272 :
TSCREAM420 wrote:

apparently u didnt read, what i wrote just b4 that, again, if u are going to come, come correct!


You didn't even make reference to anything I said. Sorry if I mistook that as stupid and irrelevent (which it was by the way).

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 07:59 pm / quote |
MegaRon :
MTVget0FFtheAIR wrote:
as for Megaron, Russia's possession of WMD is simply a sign of their refusal to keep up with the times and a testament to why they are so mistrusted in current global politics. Putin has no teeth because any threat he makes is opposed by the whole of the UN.

I don't know if you've noticed or not, the UN is still pretty sore over us going into Iraq WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. I'm not saying they would support Russia, but if they couldn't stop us from going into Iraq, what makes you think they could stop Russia from siding with the Iranians if we attacked?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:02 pm / quote |
blues-guitarist :
Hilary-Voted for war and supported NAFTA

Obama-Voted for the Patriot act and to continue the war in Iraq

McCain-Do i even need to write something? They guy thinks that Iraq is better now than before and thinks that the US is "spreading democracy"

They're all the same :/

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:05 pm / quote |
R8:31b :
Waters is right about Cilton, oops i mean Clinton. but idk about Osama OBama. but hey, as long as he hates Clinton as much as i do then i have to back him on this one.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:30 pm / quote |
soul_power :
Spirit_Crusher wrote:

neither clinton nor obama will get us out of iraq, and we'll probably go into iran no matter what. at least john mccain is honest about it.

ron paul '08.

At least Ron Paul is pro marijuana.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:40 pm / quote |
MTVget0FFtheAIR :
Hamham272 wrote:

Oooo lets make a list like you did:

1. Did i mention anywhere in my post anything about the president ruling the economy? No... Hurrah for useless arguments.

2. I didn't exaggerate anything, I stated it.

3. If having money is part of what it takes to become president obviously the system is corrupt.

4. If Hillary Clinton makes it as president thats even longer...

5. I never said the president rules the country, they just happen to be the guy that tells everyone the decisions the rich powerful suits have made and claim it as their own glorious decision. If the president was a good one and actually tried to make a difference and made their own decisions for the good of the world and not his pockets, we would see a repetition of well, JFK. Good good, corrupt ****ing American politics.


do you honestly believe that you did anything other than restate past incorrect statements with this post?

1. your statement that the president "rules" implies that he controls all aspects of the country. he most certainly does not. foreigners really have no idea what power our president holds. they would be surprised to find that it isn't near as much as they think it is. it's a popular goal to portray the president as the evil dominating being. he is not solely responsible for any shortcomings or successes in politics.

2. exaggerating may have been poor diction on my part. what i meant was you phrased a simple occurrence in a way that portrayed it as a total corruption. saying that over the past 20 years usa has been ruled by 2 families is not only irrelevant as i stated in my previous post, but also, the way you framed it is not "honest". in the past 20 years there have been 3 presidents, yes? ruling by 2 families means that there have been 2 presidents connected and one president unconnected. now, that would make ONE connection in the past 20 years of "rulers" as you call them. put this way, the statement is insignificant, again, meaningless.

3. not corruption, but common sense. campaigning involves putting out posters, bumper stickers, tshirts, traveling the nation to put on speeches and garner support. a poor man simply could not do this. there are massive amounts of money involved in campaigning for a presidential election. one simple fact being, if you don't publicize and advertise and campaign your name, how is the public going to know who you are and what you represent? they wouldn't.

4. being associated with a powerful politician brings you into the public eye. it is, in a sense, free publicity. moreover, if the politician you are associated with is successful or popular, the public assumes you share like qualities. look at John Adams and JQA; look at Teddy Roosevelt and FDR. in fact, many would have argued that another Kennedy would become president due to JFK's popularity. it's not at all rare for a relative of a famous politician to become a famous politician.

5. you described JFK's administration so eloquently. he simply held global popularity in high regard. he was a reactionary president, an attribute he is commonly criticized for. he waited for events to unfold, then he responded in a way that would give him the most leverage and public support. not a bad strategy, all things considered. once again JFK's popularity shows amongst foreigners. if a president is trying to gain global popularity, it seems as though all he has to do is relax foreign diplomacy :p:.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:41 pm / quote |
R0ck3rd4z :
Just like to point out something here. There is a lot of you here slagging off waters for having an opinion on politics, yet in the same breath try and tell americans to vote for whoever u think is suitable to be president. You sound like a bunch of 15 year olds trying to act intelligent and intellectual so that your opinions are taken as seriously as rogers.....heres a reality check.....THEY WONT
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 08:46 pm / quote |
JJTheMonkeyHoe :
"Philadelphia primary" ????? WHAT?

It's the Pennsylvania Primary. And also, if you know anything about politics, you would realize that Hillary would not and does not want to invade Iran.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:06 pm / quote |
TSCREAM420 :
Hamham272 wrote:

TSCREAM420 wrote:

if there was such a thig as a cyber douche bag, it would be you!


Also greatest cyber come back ever... no basis, no back up, no thought. Go to hell.


.....ok i just realised im arguing with a 19 year old kid that isnt even american.....

haha i rest my case

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:07 pm / quote |
Shread_6009 :
just to clarify some things

1. Bill Clinton didnt do anything wrong but get his cock suked by a hot foreign intern and lie about it

Bush started 2 wars, is planning a third, and is lying about them.

2. Clinton ( again bill ) helped stimulate the economy and made loads of jobs

Bush is putting the U.S. into a depression, with over a trillion dollars of dept.

just for those people insulting clinton, and about the so called " mess" he left ( that mess is a sticky stain in the Oval office near the curtains.

i think that all those countries that america owes money to should force america to pay up within 10 years if they invade another nation, that'll stop these wars from ever happening.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:09 pm / quote |
dann_blood :
I agree with Waters in principle. Hillary would be a shit president of the US, she's already shown she can't handle pressure.
Clinton has lied, sledged and tried to make Obama look less American in her campaign, and we all know what the public thinks of the Iraq invasion.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:18 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
checked. could people please quit bickering?
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:23 pm / quote |
Charlatan_001 :
To all the people who said that "celebrities and musicians shouldn't talk about politics": they're normal people with opinions too. They have all the right to be involved with politics and talk about politics as any one of us do.

Just because they've got more of a spotlight on them doesn't make them any less valid.

And for the record, the Democrats and Republicans are basically the same - they're both parties in favor of the business class of America. No matter who you vote for, the situation is going to stay the same.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 09:40 pm / quote |
TechnoViking :
misleading titles! i thought the man behind the wall got some
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:06 pm / quote |
Rogue Hermit :
man, too bad there's no conservative musicians anymore that you hear about. i'd love to see some obama AND hillary bashing by somebody in the media. besides, neither of the two are any bit qualified. hillary lies, obama has only been a 2-term senator and follows a friggin' racist pastor.
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:12 pm / quote |
joshua029 :
TechnoViking wrote:

misleading titles! i thought the man behind the wall got some


thats what grabbed my attention too

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:16 pm / quote |
SchitzoJoe :
I have one thing to say.


Clinton '08.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:34 pm / quote |
bootyking69 :
doesnt matter who wins this country is full of shit and theres no hope anymore
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:37 pm / quote |
sucay :
papersun87 wrote:

Sounds like it's time for Animals, pt. II.


that my friend would be my dream album. Dogs (part II) would be my dream song.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 10:53 pm / quote |
MantaExpo :
Hilary Clinton wrote her college thesis paper on communism and has very leaning socialist views, and I'm not talking about it in the equality views of socialism.

Plus nothing she is talking about can actually work.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:11 pm / quote |
Matt_1213 :
keithmoon15 wrote:

politics is dumb


You my good sir, are an idiot.

Would you prefer anarchy?

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:15 pm / quote |
idiot82510 :
Shread_6009 wrote:

just to clarify some things

1. Bill Clinton didnt do anything wrong but get his cock suked by a hot foreign intern and lie about it

Bush started 2 wars, is planning a third, and is lying about them.

2. Clinton ( again bill ) helped stimulate the economy and made loads of jobs

Bush is putting the U.S. into a depression, with over a trillion dollars of dept.

just for those people insulting clinton, and about the so called " mess" he left ( that mess is a sticky stain in the Oval office near the curtains.

i think that all those countries that america owes money to should force america to pay up within 10 years if they invade another nation, that'll stop these wars from ever happening.


Clinton didnt do anything wrong
but could have stoped our war before it started
the Iraqi military had Bin Ladin caaptured some 8 times or so.. and Bill just told them that he didnt do anything yet let him go...

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:31 pm / quote |
FooCards :
lucky for Hilary Clinton Waters didn't really didn't sway his fans from not voting for Hilary since hippies don't vote hahaha
POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:31 pm / quote |
dmaccy06 :
Matt_1213 wrote:

keithmoon15 wrote:

politics is dumb


You my good sir, are an idiot.

Would you prefer anarchy?


Politics are not "dumb" they must exist. Don't you have an ozzy forum to post on.

POSTED: 04/14/2008 - 11:38 pm / quote |
777Corey :
yeahyeahyeah, hilary sucks, mccain is lame, but it really enfuriates me that people speak so highly of barack. they make him out to be some messiah. listen to him talk, like really listen to him, not just how he speaks, he doesnt know what the hell he's talking about. he's just putting promotion out that he's some sort of opposite of bush. bush isnt nearly s bad as popoular media puts him out there to be, and barack is ****ing clueless. they just put his face on every tv station, put his face on every t shirt, so people think 'wow, he must be good' instead of looking at the facts. miserable.
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:00 am / quote |
irotinmyskin :
pink floyd is so overrated
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:10 am / quote |
SL!!! :
Who cares he's not a US citizen. Also...he's not YOU so it doesn't matter what he thinks. The media needs to stop reporting, "so and so says this about candidate A" It's a waste of time. Make up your own mind and don't worry what some pompous douchebag thinks.

And please people don't turn this into a political debate, this is a guitar site, save that for the forums.

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:19 am / quote |
SL!!! :
Matt_1213 wrote:

keithmoon15 wrote:

politics is dumb

You my good sir, are an idiot.

Would you prefer anarchy?
Anarchy as a political theory in it's various forms is still politics. Congratulations on a wonderfully ironic statement. Your lack of comprehensive understanding of the most basic ideas sums up the comments so far. Hahaha, don't take it personally, your comment was just one that caught my attention.

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:21 am / quote |
recliner33 :
Matt_1213 wrote:

keithmoon15 wrote:

politics is dumb

You my good sir, are an idiot.

Would you prefer anarchy?

Hey I don't think politics are dumb, but don't diss anarchy. It's not as bad as what people think.

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:29 am / quote |
Bunyip :
Haveacigar wrote:

Is he even an American Citizen? Yea, so his word doesn't really matter, though I do agree with him. Hilary is awful. Love Pink Floyd though!


I do beleive the article states he is eligable to vote

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 01:31 am / quote |
Bunyip :
recliner33 wrote:

Matt_1213 wrote:

keithmoon15 wrote:

politics is dumb

You my good sir, are an idiot.

Would you prefer anarchy?

Hey I don't think politics are dumb, but don't diss anarchy. It's not as bad as what people think.


??? and what country are you living in?

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 01:34 am / quote |
rip3149 :
musicians and politics don't mix.....thats all there is to it!
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 02:28 am / quote |
dann_blood :
777Corey wrote:

yeahyeahyeah, hilary sucks, mccain is lame, but it really enfuriates me that people speak so highly of barack. they make him out to be some messiah. listen to him talk, like really listen to him, not just how he speaks, he doesnt know what the hell he's talking about. he's just putting promotion out that he's some sort of opposite of bush. bush isnt nearly s bad as popoular media puts him out there to be, and barack is ****ing clueless. they just put his face on every tv station, put his face on every t shirt, so people think 'wow, he must be good' instead of looking at the facts. miserable.


Because we all know you get into politics by not knowing anything. /sarcasm

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 02:44 am / quote |
emr_steelmech :
^what? Ron Paul did run, remember? He just didn't get votes or, you know, a chance to speak in the debates...*cough* Anderson Cooper

“But I would be terribly afraid [the NY Times would] go, 'This is that pinko shitbag who's attacking our President in time of war',” he added.


wait, so he thinks the NEW YORK TIMES is too conservative and would label him a "pinko shitbag"???
Are we talking about the same paper?

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 03:08 am / quote |
Axl_Duff_Izzy :
mad bitch looks like a helium tokin' alien anyway
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 03:58 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked again!
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 04:11 am / quote |
CoreysMonster :
jesus.. these comments reek of idiocy and malinformation. guys, if you're gonna argue about something, please READ and INFORM yourselves about the topic FIRST, okay? 90% of the statements made here are incorrect, falsely interpreted or only half of the picture.
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 04:48 am / quote |
onthewaytohell :
To be honest, i dont really care about this story
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 04:54 am / quote |
123-Trav :
Nobody else found the title of this article at least a bit humourous?!?

For shame UG... for shame...

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 04:58 am / quote |
Aravix :
This isn't really news, to be honest. Who really cares about what someone from England thinks about the US election?

Pink Floyd will always rule though!

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 07:04 am / quote |
paul_wilson :
Sloofus wrote:

electricinferno wrote:

Robin_OldSchool wrote:

so what if they invade Iran, they want to destroy western civilization ! so that also includes your music Roger Waters...


that is a pretty ****ing ignorant thing to say

Actually... considering the political leadership of Iran, it's not that ignorant. Maybe not every citizen of the country, but the people with power? Yeah I'm willing to bet they hate us quite a bit and would invade/conquer/destroy western countries if they could.


And with the shit America has done in the middle east since the 50's could you really blame them?

Though Waters hit the nail on the head here. Why shouldn't celebrities have political views? It's not like they have real jobs so they have alot of time to think and also have a means to express their opinion. Are you against freedom of speak too?

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 07:21 am / quote |
ntchode :
as great a song writer and musician he is he knows jack shit about politics, and even though I love the floyd music more than anyone I don't give a **** about rogers political views.
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 08:04 am / quote |
yutyoy :
thejester wrote:

celebrities and political views is like oil and water to me. they dont mix and i dont give a crap what they say.

agreed! i think most of these musicians just end up filling their fans heads up with bogus propaganda and distorted facts

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 09:03 am / quote |
cmaeron grant :
Yet another headline with a sexual undertone
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 09:59 am / quote |
alex lifeson7 :
hahaha good old roger waters... unfortunately he is wrong.
IF hillary get into office, she wont do anything as drastic as invade iraq. IN fact, she basically wont do anything at all, she will be just like BILL, and not do anything in order to keep everybody happy. ALl hillary would do is nothing, she wouldnt do anything controversial at all.
i live in canada, and im hoping she wont get in...shell probly invade canada, and make us all wear pant suits....

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 10:13 am / quote |
Anjohl :
I said it before, if Hilary Clinton is elected president, it's a sign of the end times. If the backwards interest groups elect Hilary, vote Mccain, TRUST me.
POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 10:23 am / quote |
stonegolem13 :
thejester wrote:

celebrities and political views is like oil and water to me. they dont mix and i dont give a crap what they say.


So you don't support Hilary anyway as Elton John gave a performance for her :p

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 12:51 pm / quote |
R0ck3rd4z :
irotinmyskin wrote:

pink floyd is so overrated


I know everyones entitled to their own opinion and all that jazz.....BUT YOUR WRONG!

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 01:07 pm / quote |
dmaccy06 :
R0ck3rd4z wrote:

irotinmyskin wrote:

pink floyd is so overrated




I know everyones entitled to their own opinion and all that jazz.....BUT YOUR WRONG!


AGREED...In my opinion Dark Side of the Moon is one of the best albums ever recorded. anyone care to second that?

POSTED: 04/15/2008 - 03:23 pm / quote |
Sam Mézec :
Viva the Communist revolution!
POSTED: 04/16/2008 - 05:37 am / quote |
Tompaw :
therescue06 wrote:

TSCREAM420 wrote:

SHUT UP AND CALL DAVID GILMOUR, HE WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU!!!

Actually, Gilmour doesnt want to play again. Get your **** straight.


In reality, Gilmour is on record stating no to a reunion tour happening without a new album. Reading between the lines,lets see if they can get an album together. I would like to hear Gilmour's take on Leaving Beirut.

--Tompaw

POSTED: 04/16/2008 - 10:03 am / quote |
Is_6_9? :
dmaccy06 wrote:
AGREED...In my opinion Dark Side of the Moon is one of the best albums ever recorded. anyone care to second that?

I prefer The Wall, but I'll sure as hell second it.

POSTED: 04/17/2008 - 03:37 am / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD :
To the dude that said Dark Side of the Moon was one of the greatest albums ever, I second that.

Don't think that most musicians dont know about politics. A lot of them keep up with current events. Its called the news, im sure everyone watches it, not just us non-famous people. Either way I agree with him here, Bill Clinton was good, but Hillary would be terrible for office. Based on her past descisions, she wouldnt help us out any at all.


Obama 08!!

POSTED: 04/25/2008 - 08:06 pm / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD :
Also, the terrorists hate us because as an american I will say that our country is looked at as the ******* country. I see why all we do is invade peoples countries and tell them what to do. This makes me ashamed to be american.
POSTED: 04/25/2008 - 08:09 pm / quote |
Mojo89 :
Kalbad wrote:

Honestly this shows he knows squat about politics.... Im following the elections religiously and invading Iran is something no-body will want to do... The States had to ask Saddam to do it for them... And Iran will not be pushovers like Iraq... They will fight to the death!!! Not hide behind civillians like the cowardly insurgents in Iraq!!


no dude this shows your a blind idiot

POSTED: 04/28/2008 - 04:31 pm / quote |
clasp :
Actually, Obama has said before in debates that he would invade Iran.
POSTED: 04/28/2008 - 07:48 pm / quote |
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