Slash Lays Into G'N'R Bootlegger

Former Guns N Roses guitarist Slash has blasted the bootlegger who reportedly leaked nine songs from the band's long-awaited album Chinese Democracy.

The album has become something of an industry joke, having now been almost 14 years in the making.

However, the FBI arrested Kevin Cogill earlier this week after he posted completed songs on his website in June.

Currently released on bail, he could still face up to three years in prison and $250,000 (£138,000) in fines.

Slash – who has not been part of the band since 1997 – had some strong word on Cogill's actions

"I hope he rots in jail. It's going to affect the sales of the record, and it's not fair. The internet is what it is, and you have to deal with it accordingly, but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."

It was recently reported that Dr Pepper was offering a free can of its drink to everyone in the US if the album is released this year.

Thanks for the info to Contactmusic.com.

Comments

[aaciseric]

Well i've gotta agree with that, at least Slash is being the bigger person in this fued with Axl.

[Axl_Tyler]

Kudos to Slash, forgive and forget. At least he's not still ripping constantly on Axl unlike most of the people on the internet.

[DesertEagle]

Axl and Slash although they havent spoken directly in years still have much respect for each other there is no love lost over GNR and i think that its cool that he's still got his back. He was quite the kleptomaniac as a kid so its a bit hipocritical. who cares he's slash

[Lil Macker]

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

[oneblackened]

aaciseric wrote:

Well i've gotta agree with that, at least Slash is being the bigger person in this fued with Axl.

Yeah, at least he hasn't spent the last 14 years recording one album

[deansouthpaw]

It's hard for me to believe that Slash said the guy can "rot in jail."

[slashrules!!!]

slash rocks!!

[joker_thief]

The album has become something of an industry joke...

ah yes thats the word i was looking for

[Guitar_Jester]

That surprizes me.

[Bloodandfire]

"It was recently reported that Dr Pepper was offering a free can of its drink to everyone in the US if the album is released this year."

Everyone but Buckethead that is

[STEVIEGOZZ]

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

[hazzmatazz]

Axl_Tyler wrote:

Kudos to Slash, forgive and forget. At least he's not still ripping constantly on Axl unlike most of the people on the internet.

Definately, you gotta admire him for that.

[GunsN'tallica]

Bloodandfire wrote:

"It was recently reported that Dr Pepper was offering a free can of its drink to everyone in the US if the album is released this year."

Everyone but Buckethead that is

Buckethead and Slash, isn't it?

[hellraiser1133]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

People change.

[cam_sampbell]

Go Slash!

[Black Hole Sun]

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

And this is more likely to increase album sales, if the songs are good that is. Although he did post 9. Could go either way I suppose.

[Jayok]

hahah I just thought of something.. Album 14 Years in the making... I might be time to do a new version of their song 14 years, but with alt lyrics so it fits the stories behind the album and all the problems that have happened

[Dreaming-V]

lol dr. pepper comment was random

[forsaknazrael]

david finck and slash, i thought.

[rockfan7]

I want my Dr. Pepper!

Slash wouldn't say something like that

[forsaknazrael]

woops. i meant robin finck.

[thedarkblues06]

Lil Macker wrote:

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

Yes I agree. And to all those who say Slash was a klepto when he was younger, yeah so? People change. He was young and stupid at the time.

And yes, I do believe he should go to jail. Nine songs off of an album that's not even been released yet, and leaks? That's just lowballing. I'm pretty sure James and Lars would've been upset if someone had leaked all their stuff back in July with the album coming out in September.

It's probably why they have the fly-on-the-wall footage out, so that they can quell music pirates.

[Black Hole Sun]

thedarkblues06 wrote:

Lil Macker wrote:

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

Yes I agree. And to all those who say Slash was a klepto when he was younger, yeah so? People change. He was young and stupid at the time.

And yes, I do believe he should go to jail. Nine songs off of an album that's not even been released yet, and leaks? That's just lowballing. I'm pretty sure James and Lars would've been upset if someone had leaked all their stuff back in July with the album coming out in September.

It's probably why they have the fly-on-the-wall footage out, so that they can quell music pirates.

Balls! Going to jail for leaking a few songs is ridiculous. He should be fined at the most.

[Uranutan]

I don't see a problem with the band selling less albums and making less money. Music should be art, not industry.

[Macabre_Turtle]

Anyone else feel that this was a pretty inappropriate response?

[sglover34479]

I want Dr. Pepper

[AngerIsAGift06]

honestly slash can drown in a pool of his own arrogance, three years of your bloody life gone for some music is insane as well as bankrupting fines, 14 years its taken what the hell does axl expect

[bada-bing]

Uranutan wrote:

I don't see a problem with the band selling less albums and making less money. Music should be art, not industry.

Unfortunately money makes this big bad world go round...but i do agree dude

[Froddy]

DesertEagle wrote:

Axl and Slash although they havent spoken directly in years still have much respect for each other there is no love lost over GNR and i think that its cool that he's still got his back. He was quite the kleptomaniac as a kid so its a bit hipocritical. who cares he's slash

No love lost over GNR? Are you taking the piss?

[USCENDONE BENE]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

I thought that, but music really means something to him now he's such a huge part of it. He's not doing wrong by this statement.

[MooshMooshMarc]

I have a bootlegged guns and roses live album I bought down the barras, called "silver bullet". It's got a crap PC printed cover, and the CD features a fake copyright warning for pseudo-authenticity.

Oh, I'm such a rebel

[Gordon guitar]

"but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."

.....

[theotherguy7145]

Damn. Thats why slash is just such a great person, musically and personality wise! I honestly can't imagine Axl doing something like that, much as i love his songs.
I wonder what, if anything Axl will say about this.

[121lespaul]

I want that can of dr. pepper

[ibutler]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

Ya....A little hypocritical.....

[justinrobbins7]

Dr. Pepper wins this one, no doubt.

[nscar]

Lil Macker wrote:

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

Yea he left '92 or '93 according to his book

[TJ1991]

This is going to affect sales of it more than not releasing the damn thing? Ugh.

Anyway, even though this album's become a complete joke and I don't see how anyone can actually care anymore, I can see Slash's point. Just because it's taking an unjustifiable amount of time to come out doesn't mean people should be stealing it.

[JC13]

This was on blabbermouth like 2 weeks ago... wasn't it? :S. Either way, I'll say here what I said there: There are more important things for the FBI to deal with, and Slash is a hypocrite. You guys saying "People change, he was young and stupid" are just as bad, because then this guy would be let off on the basis that "Ah whatever, he's just young, I'm sure he'll regret it when he's older".

[Absent Mind]

"if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."


LMAO!

[Rocker_94]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

That is true. He stole all his casettes and got banned from the store. Not only that, he stole clothes, and especially his top hat he's famous for wearing. On the lighter side, it's good to see Slash getting into it. If it was a VR album that was leaked, Axl would have nothing good to say.

[aaciseric]

nscar wrote:
Yea he left '92 or '93 according to his book

You sure about that? Because I read the book and i'm pretty sure it was '96 or '97 because they released the Spaghetti incident in '93 and they spent years after that trying to write music in an uneffetive way, then slash finally left followed by Duff and then Matt ... that's my understanding.

[TedElMecanico]

Theft, definitely...

[Zebra_Planet]

Dreaming-V wrote:

lol dr. pepper comment was random

yea i thought so too....whoever wrote this should have put the album/joke thing with the dr.pepper thing, so it would make more sense.

[Zebra_Planet]

AngerIsAGift06 wrote:

honestly slash can drown in a pool of his own arrogance, three years of your bloody life gone for some music is insane as well as bankrupting fines, 14 years its taken what the hell does axl expect

wuts he talkin about?

[TC1223]

I couldn't disagree with Slash anymore. Guns and Roses has become just as much of a joke as this freakin album, Chinese whatever. It's going to affect album sales?? hahahaha what a freakin disgrace GnR is and the ten years they spent jerking their fans off. It deserves to be leaked all over the world.

[BaptizedinFire]

Go Slash!

[reelbigfish432]

I wish I lived in the US. I want my Dr Pepper

[shadowsoldier08]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

And this is more likely to increase album sales, if the songs are good that is. Although he did post 9. Could go either way I suppose.

epic fail

[i_am_metalhead]

This is a bunch of bull. The RIAA are just mad that the internet has finally beaten them. Only a minuscule amount of the profits will even be seen by Axl - these days 99% of the profits made on an album go straight into the pocket of the recording company! So, while technically you are stealing when you download, you are only stealing from greedy bastards who already have millions in their bank accounts - you aren't actually hurting the musicians because the companies are screwing them over to begin with!

Also, why does Slash even care? I thought he basically had a death wish for Axl!? :confused:

[garrett5]

I loves me some Dr. Pepper.

[TheSilverBeatle]

I think Slash is wrong here. "I hope he rots in jail..." why don't we save that for a more serious criminal...perhaps a murderer, rapist or something like th at. Not some guy who puts songs on the internet. I think it's ridiculous that people who do something like leak songs are treated almost worse than the people who do the real crimes.

[guitaristx11]

i hope its released this year. i want that dr. pepper.

[untalented]

there's a difference between being poor and stealing stuff that would provide an education and investment towards your future career (and helping to fuel an attitude that would later sell) and this guy who posted 9 songs off an album that could potentially prevent millions of sales.

[grand_funky]

Kevin is the only hope we have to listen to these songs then the piglets take him away, sorry but axl is the biggest tool...its probbaly done he just wants to wait so people will buy more copies, but i think people are just saying **** to that cd, its not even g n r its just axl, with his ragingly annoying squirrel sounding voice.

[Liam616]

As much as i love slash, him saying that was a bit hypocritical.

[sowhat360]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

you beat me to it.....i dont think slash made this comment....his whole book talks about how he stole EVERYTHING he got as a kid....guitar, albums, pets, alcohol, drugs, everything. i doubt he said this about this guy with any kind of seriousness.

[I am the Drake]

Come on Axl. I want my Dr. Pepper.

[Child Of Maiden]

Yes, if you "steal" something it is indeed "theft" but a quarter million dollars and 3 years in prison is a little hard to rationalize when the victim is a greedy piece of shit and all you stole from him is a 14 year old joke of an album.

[randymeeks81]

having been super ****ed up on various drugs (the best way for me to listen to an album) and listening to leaked chinese democracy tracks, i can safely say this album will be crap. axl rose needs to ditch the corn rows and go to law school, that way he'll make some money in lawsuits for all the people who have "leaked" his precious songs. dr pepper is brilliant, chinese democracy will never be released, and they'll get to keep all their cans of dr pepper.

[Muse-Citizen]

i ****ing love dr. pepper

[False_God]

A bit harsh of slash. Basicly saying we should all rot in jail for downloading an album or two.

but its good to see him standing up for G'n'R. I swear to god I see a reunion EVENTUALLY!!

[Joey Radical]

I totally agree with Slash. Now I'm off to the store to buy some Dr. Pepper

untalented wrote:

there's a difference between being poor and stealing stuff that would provide an education and investment towards your future career (and helping to fuel an attitude that would later sell) and this guy who posted 9 songs off an album that could potentially prevent millions of sales.

there is a difference, the guy who uploaded them never profited from his actions whereas slash did. how do you know this guys actions won't inspire him to form a band and make millions for the industry? I can't see how you can excuse one type of theft and not the other.

and it won't prevent millions of album sales, if people were gonna buy the album, they'll still buy the album. but if the songs are crap, this'll allow them to save their money. so the only thing that'll have a big impact on sales is the quality of the product.

[MozemVasJebat]

that´s nice, but everyone´s got some of the Chinese democracy songs already...(and honestly, I´ve heard better stuff than that..) - slash...don´t be greedy, you ain´t that poor

[l33t_shr3dd3r]

Free Dr. Pepper, eh? Sounds like a win-win situation to me!

[eahilder]

how would we get the dr. pepper???

[mikey son]

I doubt the kid who leaked the songs will recieve any prison time at all the judge will give him a warning because honestly just about everyone stills music even the hypocrit slash(even though what he said was probaly taken out of context or not said at all in that case slash rocksmasocks)

[Mr.Garreth]

JC13 wrote:

This was on blabbermouth like 2 weeks ago... wasn't it? :S. Either way, I'll say here what I said there: There are more important things for the FBI to deal with, and Slash is a hypocrite. You guys saying "People change, he was young and stupid" are just as bad, because then this guy would be let off on the basis that "Ah whatever, he's just young, I'm sure he'll regret it when he's older".

Agreed! If Slash is going ot say things like that kid should "rot in jail", the he should look inward and say to himself: 'well I should rot in hell too'

Honestly how could he say something so cruel when he expects forgiveness for his sins?

I like Slash but his comments kinda ticked me off. The FBI should be investigating those greedy record label execs and ask themselves why it is that so many people (good people, believe it or not) have resorted to illegally downloading music. those folks earn wayyyyy too much money and I dont care what anyone says. I wouldnt be able to live with myself.

[Child Of Maiden]

untalented wrote:

there's a difference between being poor and stealing stuff that would provide an education and investment towards your future career (and helping to fuel an attitude that would later sell) and this guy who posted 9 songs off an album that could potentially prevent millions of sales.

Wow you're really reaching to rationalize that BS. If Slash had stolen any of that stuff from you, I'm sure you wouldn't sit back, put your hands behind your head and say "ah well, maybe the lowlife who stole my stuff is just trying to develop his 'rockstar' attitude"

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

It would make more sense if you typed "there's a difference between being a regular guy who's just getting by having his possetions ripped off and being a filthy rich has been rockstar having his 14 year old failure leaked onto the internet... Where he should be greatful that people are still interested in hearing it despite the fact that he's hoping this record will sell based on what he did 20 years ago with a completely different band of the same name".

That has to be his approach because making your fans wait 14 years for an album that probably sounds like it should have been released 10 years prior to it's initial conception isn't the best strategy. Axl screwed this album looooong before some internet bootlegger did and this is a cruel publicity stunt just to remind people that this album and zombie of a band still actually exists.

[1-ignition-2]

THEYVE GOTTA CHILL OUT, "AXL AND SLASH"

[tamargoguitar]

wonder what axl's got to say about this

[Wonthefu]

All I can do when I hear anything about Chinese Democracy is laugh and laugh.

The album will never be released, and even if it is it'll surely be a flop because everyone will have such brutal high expectations for it.

Axl is a prick, Slash is a much smaller prick, and this album has got to be the biggest joke in the recorded history of music.

[joshua029]

i dont understand you people. when slash opens a can on people who steal music you guys are all "hurray!" but when metallica (and others that never get mentioned) do it they get torn into.

ug = confusion

[Renfordoggz]

joshua029 wrote:

i dont understand you people. when slash opens a can on people who steal music you guys are all "hurray!" but when metallica (and others that never get mentioned) do it they get torn into.

ug = confusion

agreed lol

[vantage4]

lol slash probably shoplifted his share of records when he was young

[venomouskiss320]

Dr Pepper =] I'm gonna hold them to it XD

[yutyoy]

is this Slash? or Lars?

[beefofjesusbass]

we will have all died of old age before chinese democracy is released

[untalented]

Lemmoninfluence wrote:

there is a difference, the guy who uploaded them never profited from his actions whereas slash did. how do you know this guys actions won't inspire him to form a band and make millions for the industry? I can't see how you can excuse one type of theft and not the other.

and it won't prevent millions of album sales, if people were gonna buy the album, they'll still buy the album. but if the songs are crap, this'll allow them to save their money. so the only thing that'll have a big impact on sales is the quality of the product.

Firstly, I do not condone theft and I do not defend Slash's actions. I am just pointing out the difference for people complaining that he did the exact same thing.
Secondly, everyone has the right to a free education. What slash did by stealing records was giving himself an education in rock music which would later come to be a career. I don't condone his theft of other stuff except that which he needed to prove successful in his career. I'm assuming that he was poor and by stealing what he needed, he broke social ladders which prevent poor people from becoming rich. The guy had a vision and the only thing that was preventing him from acting on it was money. Do rich people only deserve to have the chance to act on their talents?
thirdly, if the guy was going to start a band or not, his actions are not excused. He did not have to "share" the music with more people.
I accept, however, that the album's quality should have an effect on its sales but in reality that doesn't happen and you know it.

[tamargoguitar]

joshua029 wrote:

i dont understand you people. when slash opens a can on people who steal music you guys are all "hurray!" but when metallica (and others that never get mentioned) do it they get torn into.

ug = confusion

Its because slash is "cool".....and its kind of a cliche to hate metallica and like slash here in UG

[skvvisgaar]

untalented wrote:

Lemmoninfluence wrote:

there is a difference, the guy who uploaded them never profited from his actions whereas slash did. how do you know this guys actions won't inspire him to form a band and make millions for the industry? I can't see how you can excuse one type of theft and not the other.

and it won't prevent millions of album sales, if people were gonna buy the album, they'll still buy the album. but if the songs are crap, this'll allow them to save their money. so the only thing that'll have a big impact on sales is the quality of the product.
Firstly, I do not condone theft and I do not defend Slash's actions. I am just pointing out the difference for people complaining that he did the exact same thing.
Secondly, everyone has the right to a free education. What slash did by stealing records was giving himself an education in rock music which would later come to be a career. I don't condone his theft of other stuff except that which he needed to prove successful in his career. I'm assuming that he was poor and by stealing what he needed, he broke social ladders which prevent poor people from becoming rich. The guy had a vision and the only thing that was preventing him from acting on it was money. Do rich people only deserve to have the chance to act on their talents?
thirdly, if the guy was going to start a band or not, his actions are not excused. He did not have to "share" the music with more people.
I accept, however, that the album's quality should have an effect on its sales but in reality that doesn't happen and you know it.

well, if I want to be a movie director, am I allowed to walk into a theater without paying? If I want to be a computer repairman can I walk into someones house and take their computer? If I want to become a pilot, am I allowed to steal a plane? If I want to be president am I allowed to overthrow the government? These are all cases of getting a free education I cannot afford to pay for. If he wanted to listen to music, there is free music playing 24 hours a day on the radio, or he could have borrowed tapes from his friends. He stole music for his own enjoyment (as well as other things he stole for his enjoyment ie. alcohol and drugs). Anyone who downloaded the 9 tracks was either going to buy the album, in which case they are still going to buy it to get the rest of the songs, or they were going to illegally download it anyway, in which case they are going to illegally download the rest of the tracks when they come out. This doesn't change

[sottpwn]

So you're telling me that Axl isn't rich enough.

Wow and here was me thinking he'd made this album for his fans..

Internet piracy SUCKS when small bands are trying to make it big, but if I ever got as big as Axl I'd release my music for free (a la Trent Reznor, a man who isn't greedy) to please my fans and not my own wallet.

[mercurymay]

according to him, theft is a bad thing... anyone read his autobiography? anyone recall how he got his top hat? anyone recall the incident with the inflated raft?

hypocrite

[skvvisgaar]

whether or not some one will buy the album, unless the songs are really bad, in which case it is the bands fault for making bad music. GnR have made fans wait a long time for this album, they are going to get impatient after a while.

also, sorry for 2 posts, accidentally hit the post button while writing the first post.

[Fuzzbox91]

seriously slash did more shit than this guy, if anything he should rot and jail

[hiphopopotamus]

I'm gonna have to refuse to buy the album when it comes out now.

[markojuo]

the only intriguing part of this interview was the part mentioning dr.pepper

[Psychopathology]

Looks like we won't get any delicious Dr. Pepper.

[BoggaN]

hiphopopotamus wrote:

I'm gonna have to refuse to buy the album when it comes out now.

+1

[24fretsftw]

basically, the guy shouldn't have done it...but i don't see why he faces £138k charges, when people do more than upload 9 songs every day.
Slash is not above anyone else, and theft of his music shouldn't be treated differently.
(No I don't condone music uploading)

[ozzynator]

just STFU Slash !!

[Exxol]

14 years in the making?

i bet its gonna suck.

[JPetrucci25]

glad slash still has respect for axl's band

[the_heretic]

but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft.

That seems fairly logical.

[untalented]

skvvisgaar wrote:
If he wanted to listen to music, there is free music playing 24 hours a day on the radio, or he could have borrowed tapes from his friends.

Have you tried playing stuff on the radio? Most of it is not guitar-orientated enough and there was less selection in those days. Also, if all your friends are also poor, then what?

skvvisgaar wrote:
He stole music for his own enjoyment (as well as other things he stole for his enjoyment ie. alcohol and drugs).

I already said I don't agree with theft of things that aren't necessary

skvvisgaar wrote:
Anyone who downloaded the 9 tracks was either going to buy the album, in which case they are still going to buy it to get the rest of the songs, or they were going to illegally download it anyway, in which case they are going to illegally download the rest of the tracks when they come out. This doesn't change

The hype of the album is what will drive a lot of sales. Once people find out that it's leaked, they will give in and listen due to the hype. They will lose sales due to the fact that the hype has calmed down and people have already heard it and are therefore not hyped about it anymore. A lot of money goes into marketing the album. Although I don't agree with manipulating people like this, it is still a bad situation for some.

Also - work on your analogies. Stealing a plane isn't quite the same. Maybe sneaking into aviation lessons is, although they're quite a lot more expensive than what slash stole.

[thbeekk]

Uh, didn't Slash admit he suffered from a bout of kleptomania during his youth?

[Mayngel]

Uranutan wrote:
Music should be art, not industry.

Oh for utopian comments... Do you think your art is made by robots?
Some of us have rent to pay cheap-o.

Checked.

[JimMRocks]

I believe Slash had something to say about this not because it's Guns N' Roses, but because he too knows what it's like to have music stolen from him by kids using filesharing sites. No artist is safe when it comes to those kind of things. And I believe Slash is just as eager as us to hear Chinese Democracy.

[AndrogynousMind]

DesertEagle wrote:

Axl and Slash although they havent spoken directly in years still have much respect for each other there is no love lost over GNR and i think that its cool that he's still got his back. He was quite the kleptomaniac as a kid so its a bit hipocritical. who cares he's slash

slash and axl talk regularily.Axl recently said that slash visited his house and talkied about weiland being a waster...

And yeah Mayngel is completely right

[coquet]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

Not to get all geeky on you, but no. Our federal government is one of limited and enumerated powers, and the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that powers not delegated to the federal government (including the FBI) are reserved for the states. Since ordinary murder is not delegated to the feds and instead is a matter of state law, it is not within the FBI's jurisdiction. Of course, if the murder also includes federal matters, such as organized interstate crime or international terrorism, it can become a federal matter. But no, the FBI doesn't have ordinary murders to look into.

Now copyright law, on the other hand, is a federal matter within the FBI's jurisdiction.

[st.stephen]

Haha sweet I'mma get me some dr pepper

[Doc-SLASH (:]

1997?? anyway slash said right.. it doesnt matter what band gets music stole off them its still wrong.. nd it takes slash balls to say tht bout a former band like.. (:

[randyaintdead82]

The reason why Dr. Pepper is soo good is because Chuck Norris was baptized in it thats why its so godly mhm

p.s release the album pretty please

[Guitar Skater]

lmao "i think if some one steals something, its theft"


slash is soooo smart ahaha

[cj10schmelzer]

i love Slash, he's my hero, but he stole music records and stuff all the time as a kid lol. Well, he is 30 years older, so i'm sure he's matured, plus he's not smoking pot and doing drugs like he did then.

[awesomeness]

I just wanna know how I would go about getting my free Dr. Pepper IF the album were to come out...

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

MozemVasJebat wrote:

that´s nice, but everyone´s got some of the Chinese democracy songs already...(and honestly, I´ve heard better stuff than that..) - slash...don´t be greedy, you ain´t that poor

no. you're a tool. slash has nothing to gain by making his statement, so the matter of his personal wealth is irrelevant.

not much of a statement really, but it's good to see slash not bickering with axl anymore.

[americablanco]

Dr. Pepper!? Sucks for everybody across the pond who have not tasted it.

[MegaRon]

Lil Macker wrote:

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

One could say he's sticking to his guns.

[LazyLatinoRocke]

Uranutan wrote:

I don't see a problem with the band selling less albums and making less money. Music should be art, not industry.

People still need to pay the bills. And because of so much time they spend on their art, they wouldn't be able to hold down another job. If they could they wouldn't be as great.

[dfresh91]

they better release it this year i want some doctor pepper!!!!

[ThatGuy177]

They better hurry up and release this. I don't care about the album, I just want my free can of Dr. Pepper!

[GodbowstoMath]

Lil Macker wrote:

Didn't he leave the band in 1994, not 1997?

Good that he's still sticking up for the Guns.

slash was the big gun in the band though... let's just called this version of GNR, roses...

[GodbowstoMath]

americablanco wrote:

Dr. Pepper!? Sucks for everybody across the pond who have not tasted it.

they don't have dr. pepper in europe? i had no idea... poor euro bastards. lol

[KaneIsRaw13]

FREE DR. PEPPER!!!

[jambajews]

YES! Dr. Pepper!

[jonnyharris1]

they don't have dr. pepper in europe? i had no idea... poor euro bastards. lol

We do have it over here in The UK so i assume the rest of europ does

[Carl6661]

GodbowstoMath wrote:

americablanco wrote:

Dr. Pepper!? Sucks for everybody across the pond who have not tasted it.


they don't have dr. pepper in europe? i had no idea... poor euro bastards. lol

We get it in the UK. I love the stuff!

Unforunately we don't get a free can. Not like the album will be released in our lifetimes anyway.

[shut_up_n00b]

Says the guy who would steal records and tapes from stores, right? Seriously this guy should look at himself first.

[frottage]

jambajews wrote:

YES! Dr. Pepper!

Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about. Idc about Chinese Democracy.

[Black Hole Sun]

shadowsoldier08 wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

And this is more likely to increase album sales, if the songs are good that is. Although he did post 9. Could go either way I suppose.

epic fail

When you say something like that... you should give a reason why. And that's why you epic fail.

coquet wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

Not to get all geeky on you, but no. Our federal government is one of limited and enumerated powers, and the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that powers not delegated to the federal government (including the FBI) are reserved for the states. Since ordinary murder is not delegated to the feds and instead is a matter of state law, it is not within the FBI's jurisdiction. Of course, if the murder also includes federal matters, such as organized interstate crime or international terrorism, it can become a federal matter. But no, the FBI doesn't have ordinary murders to look into.

Now copyright law, on the other hand, is a federal matter within the FBI's jurisdiction.

Fair enough. But I'm sure there are crimes of a much greater magnitude than piracy of 9 songs to deal with.


Also, to Slash and others who say this is theft:
Theft is taking someone else's posession, piracy is copying it. Piracy isn't theft, piracy is piracy.

[Gibson_SG_uzr55]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet.

yes but he commited piracy and thats a federal law, which is why the FBI is involved. as for those calling Slash a hypocite for being a music Klepto, I'm sure he has changed and regrets it.

anyway, good to know Slash is sticking up for Axl despite their "fued."

[guitaringnathan]

why are we getting mad at this guy for leaking it, its not like its ever going to come out anyway

[Gibson_SG_uzr55]

oh and I loled at the Dr. Pepper thing

untalented wrote:

skvvisgaar wrote:
If he wanted to listen to music, there is free music playing 24 hours a day on the radio, or he could have borrowed tapes from his friends.
Have you tried playing stuff on the radio? Most of it is not guitar-orientated enough and there was less selection in those days. Also, if all your friends are also poor, then what?

1. it was the 70s and 80s, lots of guitar oriented music on the radio.

2. your friends being poor doesn't justify stealing.

you go on to say that you don't condone theft yet you're defending a man who's done just that and who has then gone on to criticise people for doing the same thing.

[Dirtydeeds468]

LOL

"Justice" has been served to this douchebag! While the big names of international corporations give millions of hard-working people a nice hard broomstick up the ass and get away with a slap on the wrist, this guy posts a song on the internet and gets screwed.

While it was wrong of him to steal and leak the song, HUUUUUGE LOL @ the sentences.

[Dirtydeeds468]

How very rock n roll, Slash.


(sorry for double post-computer mess up)

[theotherguy7145]

Jayok wrote:

hahah I just thought of something.. Album 14 Years in the making... I might be time to do a new version of their song 14 years, but with alt lyrics so it fits the stories behind the album and all the problems that have happened

lol. yeah but it'd take 10 years to rewrite and rerecord it!

[theotherguy7145]

Also, to Slash and others who say this is theft:
Theft is taking someone else's posession, piracy is copying it. Piracy isn't theft, piracy is piracy.

Sorry for the double post, but if you've seen those annoying Piracy warnings on DVDs, they always tell you that Piracy is Stealing. :S

[Vermillion85]

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

Difference is slash was stealing completed works. What the bootlegger did is the equivelant of slash breaking into the studio and ripping the master copies. That's why he said the net is what it is. Completed works get pirated via limewire, torrents whatever.

I whole heartedly agree that bootlegging unfinished works is wrong, and disrespectful to the artist.

My 2c

[P.T. Prog inc]

Gordon guitar wrote:

"but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."

.....

well DUH slash.....

[drunkinkoala]

sucks for that guy

[sowhat360]

aaciseric wrote:

nscar wrote:
Yea he left '92 or '93 according to his book

You sure about that? Because I read the book and i'm pretty sure it was '96 or '97 because they released the Spaghetti incident in '93 and they spent years after that trying to write music in an uneffetive way, then slash finally left followed by Duff and then Matt ... that's my understanding.

I think he was in the snakepit by 97 but not 100%

[verona_bassist]

The album has become something of an industry joke, having now been almost 14 years in the making.

that made me laugh

[sowhat360]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

shadowsoldier08 wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

And this is more likely to increase album sales, if the songs are good that is. Although he did post 9. Could go either way I suppose.

epic failWhen you say something like that... you should give a reason why. And that's why you epic fail.coquet wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

Not to get all geeky on you, but no. Our federal government is one of limited and enumerated powers, and the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that powers not delegated to the federal government (including the FBI) are reserved for the states. Since ordinary murder is not delegated to the feds and instead is a matter of state law, it is not within the FBI's jurisdiction. Of course, if the murder also includes federal matters, such as organized interstate crime or international terrorism, it can become a federal matter. But no, the FBI doesn't have ordinary murders to look into.

Now copyright law, on the other hand, is a federal matter within the FBI's jurisdiction.Fair enough. But I'm sure there are crimes of a much greater magnitude than piracy of 9 songs to deal with.


Also, to Slash and others who say this is theft:
Theft is taking someone else's posession, piracy is copying it. Piracy isn't theft, piracy is piracy.

I believe the theft came before the pirating, actually pretty sure.

[welcom2duhjungl]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Don't the FBI have murders to deal with? I know every crime matters, but I think 3 years in prison and $250,000 is a bit much for posting a couple of songs on the Internet. Although the victim is rich and famous, so therefore, more important in the eyes of the law.

And this is more likely to increase album sales, if the songs are good that is. Although he did post 9. Could go either way I suppose.

You should see what they do to people that steal Limewire. D:

[Robert Judkins]

Slash you ****ing god!!!

[goneshootin]

this is gona sound f'd up.. but does anyone have the links to the 9 tracks? lol

[darth awsome]

At least the guy was trying to get the music out. It would be a bigger deal if the Album and Band weren't already a mockery.

[guitarplayer-k6]

holy bloodstained thats a little rough hope you dont get arrested haha thats death threats! haha anywho I cant wait for my free Dr. Pepper!!!!! hahaha

[pinky_demon]

Omg! I want Dr. Pepper! I hope they mail it to me :]

[keithmoon15]

i want my dr pepper

[l)ragonForce]

hellraiser1133 wrote:

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

People change.

pfft whatever he was just a kid

[jermstar44]

i want some dr pepper too

[guitargodderyck]

Go Slash

[allfooie]

joker_thief wrote:

The album has become something of an industry joke...


ah yes thats the word i was looking for

lol very good

[Dirtydeeds468]

Vermillion85 wrote:

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

Difference is slash was stealing completed works.

yeah dude, that's a GREAT excuse for stealing.

Slash's dick Your mouth (open wide)

8===D O




(hopefully this works. if it doesn't, the point is...you're sucking his dick.)

[windmill0466]

"but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."

Yes, Mr. Slash, that is the general connotation of the word theft. Hahaha.

[jermstar44]

xjcfx wrote:

can i has the doctor pepper?

what? lol

[Mondo Generator]

Damn, a little harsh, Slash? Just for that, I'm going to go download Sweet Child O' Mine illegally. AGAIN.
Joking aside, the Dr. Pepper thing is probably just a ploy to get people excited again about the new album. I wouldn't be surprised if the company paid Axl a large amount of money to NOT release it this year, because there are like 300 million people in America.

[koalabacon]

Dirtydeeds468 wrote:

Vermillion85 wrote:

STEVIEGOZZ wrote:

As much as like Slash, he's got a bit of a cheek coming out with those comments,seen as according to his book he spent much of his youth stealing all his music out of stores!!!

Difference is slash was stealing completed works.

yeah dude, that's a GREAT excuse for stealing.

Slash's dick Your mouth (open wide)

8===D O




(hopefully this works. if it doesn't, the point is...you're sucking his dick.)

you couldve made a good point on him about this.

but you didnt. youre retarded.

-1

[ninja monkey]

Bloodandfire wrote:

"It was recently reported that Dr Pepper was offering a free can of its drink to everyone in the US if the album is released this year."

Everyone but Buckethead that is

Everyone but Bucket and Slash.

[HotDogs1]

man i hate slash, he only wants money why else would he care so much about record sales plus i agree with axl and scott weiland

[rinestone]

Way to go Slash

[Noki]

joshua029 wrote:

i dont understand you people. when slash opens a can on people who steal music you guys are all "hurray!" but when metallica (and others that never get mentioned) do it they get torn into.

ug = confusion

Yeah but Slash opened a can of Dr. Pepper.

[Pr3vieWX360]

thats pretty cool, but keep in mind that that guy is a gnr fan just like (most) of us. Ive listened (and loved) all 9 tracks so i thank the guy for putting them out, even though i dont even think this guy is the one he released them to begin with, he probably was just spreading the love

[Pr3vieWX360]

oh and to the dude who asked for the songs, check out youtube

[that_1_dude24]

Shit.
RELEASE CHINESE DEMOCRACY.
Not because I like GNR, I just like Dr.pepper.
Especially free Dr. pepper.

[XnaySaturo]

It was recently reported that Dr Pepper was offering a free can of its drink to everyone in the US if the album is released this year.

Recently....lawl.

[Mondo Generator]

Mondo Generator wrote:

Damn, a little harsh, Slash? Just for that, I'm going to go download Sweet Child O' Mine illegally. AGAIN.
Joking aside, the Dr. Pepper thing is probably just a ploy to get people excited again about the new album. I wouldn't be surprised if the company paid Axl a large amount of money to NOT release it this year, because there are like 300 million people in America.

However, if they actually do release it this year, I will be one of millions to drink a Dr. Pepper happily.

[MrFetzer]

Uranutan wrote:

I don't see a problem with the band selling less albums and making less money. Music should be art, not industry.

i totally agree. Axl has plenty of money he's a whiner. stealings never okay but 3 years is crazy. i'm sure he'll do great in prison too being a hardened criminal and all. makes Slash sound like kind of a chode though

[SlashWannabe1]

DesertEagle wrote:

Axl and Slash although they havent spoken directly in years still have much respect for each other there is no love lost over GNR and i think that its cool that he's still got his back. He was quite the kleptomaniac as a kid so its a bit hipocritical. who cares he's slash

Yes but him stealing a few records is much different than a blogger posting 9 songs to millions of people on the internet, Slash himself only accounts for a 1 cd/cassett/record sale loss for the artists he stole from. Unlike this where millions have heard the release.

[crzywhiteboy]

looks to me like they still didn't get a replacement fpr VR and someone is sucking up.

-Joking

[Zeppelin Addict]

and this is why slash is and will always be the better person out of him and axl, as much love a i have for the 2.. axl your turn.

[Doobergn]

You guys are morons Slash stole records that were already released for ****s sake. This guy leaked songs of a record that isn't even released yet therefore he could take away a lot of album sales. There is a big difference there, also Slash stole the records in a time before the internet. In that time there was no way to get the music other then buying the record. These days there are so many ways to get albums for free artists need every advantage they can get.

[hailtheheelz]

doesn't the FBI have better things to do?

[broken_leg]

"but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft." - Gee what a pearl of wisdom from our main man Slash. I feel no sympathy for this guy, they are an overrated band who should of quit long ago.

[Skittles135]

Slash = God

[shadow__666]

Who cares if Slash used to steal CDs and cassettes? I'm pretty sure all of us have stolen stuff before from shops. I'm not condoning it, but at least he had the balls to stand up and say that what this guy did was wrong rather than having a laugh about it like many probably thought he would.

[atTheGates27]

i want a free can of sooodaa

[S-Gsus]

sottpwn wrote:

So you're telling me that Axl isn't rich enough.

Wow and here was me thinking he'd made this album for his fans..

Internet piracy SUCKS when small bands are trying to make it big, but if I ever got as big as Axl I'd release my music for free (a la Trent Reznor, a man who isn't greedy) to please my fans and not my own wallet.

So you're saying... If you were an electrician, who was famous for being the best, most ingenuitive electrician in the land, you would fix peoples toasters for free?

Same deal here (although how he's survived 14 years of ****ing around i'll never know...) if you were in Axl's shoes, a megastar rocker and musician/composer... would you give everyone a free album?

free fixed toaster??... free album?

[lul]

SLASH IS A GOD

[g00fy_130]

I love Dr. Pepper!!!

[Jesstaa]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

This is a bunch of bull. The RIAA are just mad that the internet has finally beaten them. Only a minuscule amount of the profits will even be seen by Axl - these days 99% of the profits made on an album go straight into the pocket of the recording company! So, while technically you are stealing when you download, you are only stealing from greedy bastards who already have millions in their bank accounts - you aren't actually hurting the musicians because the companies are screwing them over to begin with!

Yeah, and if the musicians are already doing it tough, stealing their music is just making it worse.

[Toxtoth_O_Grady]

MooshMooshMarc wrote:

I have a bootlegged guns and roses live album I bought down the barras, called "silver bullet". It's got a crap PC printed cover, and the CD features a fake copyright warning for pseudo-authenticity.

Oh, I'm such a rebel

I've got a legal copy of Use Your Illusion I like that ...

[MozemVasJebat]

no. you're a tool. slash has nothing to gain by making his statement, so the matter of his personal wealth is irrelevant.

not much of a statement really, but it's good to see slash not bickering with axl anymore.[/quote]

- so they don´t argue, so someone should be jailed! - is that what you´re saying? -..according to you "logic" - Have you ever seen picture painted by Picasso? or Van Gogh? - and have you ever seen it on the internet? - than you´re a THIEF!!! because you should have bought it, if you wanted to see it..

[sucay]

S-Gsus wrote:

sottpwn wrote:

So you're telling me that Axl isn't rich enough.

Wow and here was me thinking he'd made this album for his fans..

Internet piracy SUCKS when small bands are trying to make it big, but if I ever got as big as Axl I'd release my music for free (a la Trent Reznor, a man who isn't greedy) to please my fans and not my own wallet.

So you're saying... If you were an electrician, who was famous for being the best, most ingenuitive electrician in the land, you would fix peoples toasters for free?

Same deal here (although how he's survived 14 years of ****ing around i'll never know...) if you were in Axl's shoes, a megastar rocker and musician/composer... would you give everyone a free album?

free fixed toaster??... free album?

thats a lame comparison, electricity isn't art, its not a joy, is not a sentiment, he can make money by touring, how it should be.

[sucay]

axl rose is a failure

[f1sk]

what a jack ass, who gives a shit if its not making money, i agree its wrong but hes making it sound like it ruins GnR when in all actuality the album probably reaches more ears

i would rather someone hear my music than make a buck off it, which is more important to you slash?

[jdmurrayz]

That's way to much for leaking some shitty songs (yeah I heard them on the youtubes). this albums still gunna sell a billion copys regardless of a guy posting some songs.

[Donkey Fly]

'but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft'

Good Call....Fag.

[FuZzY(aus)]

thats awesome go slash

[ShaDoW0lf]

Yeah, and if the musicians are already doing it tough, stealing their music is just making it worse.[/quote]

If they really needed the money, they'd have released this record 10-13 years ago. If you spend that much time delaying something you've promised us, do you deserve any cent you're given? I'd have bought this album if they'd at least said "sorry guys, we've stopped working on the album indefinately" 10 years ago, and then come back to make it. Years worth of delays aren't gonna make me respect GNR's bank account.

[DenHond]

deansouthpaw wrote:

It's hard for me to believe that Slash said the guy can "rot in jail."

who knows how much money he loses to all those f*cking pirates...

[Black Star]

shadow__666 wrote:

Who cares if Slash used to steal CDs and cassettes? I'm pretty sure all of us have stolen stuff before from shops. I'm not condoning it, but at least he had the balls to stand up and say that what this guy did was wrong rather than having a laugh about it like many probably thought he would.

If you're going to defend what Slash did when he was a kid, then you have to also defend what the blogger did. There is no other way to look at it, other than the blogger released unreleased material, but that material is never going to be released anyways.

[RubberSoul54321]

bloodstained wrote:

**** this gay band, **** these gay two overrated rockstars. if i ever got the chance seein' any of them in public, with no security i would kick there asses' hell why do u think they have security, cause they no they're *****s. hope slash rots in his own self pity if he aint already doing that, overgrown, long haired freak, ill **** u up.

You, sir, are a cock.

[Greg Harper]

"...but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."

He ain't stupid is he?

[clyde_cranston]

"rots in jail" bit harsh really! Does that mean he wants all of his fans who have ever downloaded any of his songs to do the same??

[tands]

i think slash should mind his own buisness and stop trying to be "the better man" or get back in GNR. Im just plain sick of this guy, he hasnt made any good music in 14 years so he has to get his publicity from Axel now

[Black Hole Sun]

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Also, to Slash and others who say this is theft:
Theft is taking someone else's posession, piracy is copying it. Piracy isn't theft, piracy is piracy.

Sorry for the double post, but if you've seen those annoying Piracy warnings on DVDs, they always tell you that Piracy is Stealing. :S

Yeah, it's not. Stealing is stealing. Piracy is piracy. It's why they have different names. Also, I doubt this guy went into the G'n'R studio and stole the tapes.

[Froddy]

AndrogynousMind wrote:
slash and axl talk regularily.Axl recently said that slash visited his house and talkied about weiland being a waster...

And yeah Mayngel is completely right

It sounds like you're referring to the time a couple of years ago when he apparently slagged off all the members of VR, which didn't actually happen - my memory's hazy but I know they didn't speak face to face. They haven't for years, or hadn't for years up until very recently if they have.

[el57]

I think pirating music from huge mega-million dollar corporate bands is a good thing. I almost want to download GNR's discography right now to spite them... but that would waste space on my computer.

[deadlyMETAL]

Slash said that? I can't believe it. Just can't.

checked

[tristan_deity]

Go Slash! These bootleggers must be F!@$ing punished they are completely wrecking the music industy

[Tsuchiya]

Look, we were never going to get it any other way, were we?

[B.do]

"...but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft."
seriously ? holy shit i gotta get back to my law books, i think i skipped a passage...

[nhlfan]

as much as i like slash he did use 2 steel his music when he was a kid :P

[Deadrocker93]

Slash is a guitar god, but once again he doesn't know shit. Since when are drugs legal, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he steal music as a kid too?

[Deadrocker93]

Since when did Slash become protector of Truth and Justice anyway?