Slash Speaks Out On Proposition 8

Velvet Revolver and former Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash released a video with his wife, Perla Hudson, showing their support of gay marriage.

The video features Slash playing "The Star Spangled Banner" while Perla tells viewers, "I married my sweetheart. You should be able to marry yours too. Say 'No’ to hate and 'Yes’ to equal rights. Keep up the fight!"

Slash and Perla urge supporters of their cause to stand up for their rights and to visit JoinTheImpact.com for more information on upcoming protests and rallies.

Proposition 8 is a ballot that was passed in the state of California that effectively outlawed same-sex marriage in California. Following news that the ballot had been passed, mass protests erupted across the country and garnered the supports of celebrities ranging from Brad Pitt to Ellen DeGeneres.

Report by David Lowe-Bianco.

Comments

[jefffelker40]

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

[StereoFlare]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

[Phe4rTheGod]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

[soundgarden19]

good on them.

[Jazzcore23]

good for slash. Sorry jefffelker, but this is AMERICA and anyone can say what they want. Just cause you don't agree means that that person is stupid. And Im not sure how he is a hypocrite? I may not agree with what he has to say, but he certainly aint trying to force it on anyone

[dgme92]

Good to see celebrities being pro-active on the whole thing, seeing as their word carries a lot of weight with the general public.

[fattypumbaa]

Hell Yeah



No on 8

[soapalot]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Jesus christ, no one forced you to get on your computer, go to this website and read this article.

[Prince of Rinse]

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

[nesveikuolis]

Gay marriage isn't something I oppose, but I'm only afraid of this getting so much attention, so that being gay becomes the same to the 21st century, like heavy metal to the 80's - the most talked about thing in the world, although it seems unavoidable.

[Jazzcore23]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Maybe your from England and should stay the hell out? No but really I don't know why your slamming him because if John Petrucci came out with an Anti-gay video you would be on here saying, "way to go". I get a little sick of people freaking out about simple things like a person expressing their feelings. You don't freak out everytime a senator, a person with real power, comes out and says insane stuff do you? No you only want to stab at "celebrities" because you assume that they aren't very smart. Seems to me that your a bit of a snob and you arent too keen on freedom. But hey that's your right. I assume.

[traceo]

Phe4rTheGod :
jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.


Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

Yea cause everyone who opposes gay marriage is a rebuplican and a bigot. He has as much right to his opinion as Slash does. This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

[duncang]

Checked.

No flaming!

[TJ1991]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

He hasn't forced anything upon you! And anyway he has a point, which shows your ignorance.

[Rupert1616]

i think its great. if slash hadnt done this i would even have heard of proposition 8 hes not forcing poeple to agree hes just making them aware

[break-me-in]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

I'm not dying of cancer, should I stop giving money to cancer-related charities? He's allowed an opinion, whether or not it directly affects him.

[huevos]

Jazzcore23 wrote:

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.


Maybe your from England and should stay the hell out? No but really I don't know why your slamming him because if John Petrucci came out with an Anti-gay video you would be on here saying, "way to go". I get a little sick of people freaking out about simple things like a person expressing their feelings. You don't freak out everytime a senator, a person with real power , comes out and says insane stuff do you? No you only want to stab at "celebrities" because you assume that they aren't very smart. Seems to me that your a bit of a snob and you arent too keen on freedom. But hey that's your right. I assume.

Exactly.
They are just falling for the same sensationalist bs that they are decrying. It's quite ironic.

With that out of the way, everyone has a right to be heard. Celebrities as well. Of course their words will affect the masses. But they still have the right to say what they want.

[PowerHorse]

StereoFlare wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.
The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

He'll still have the right anyway...

[Breakingpoint56]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Just because he's a celebrity doesn't mean he doesn't have an opinion...

And it does affect them. He got married to the person he loves and he believes everyone should have that right. Love is something that affects each every person. You think gay people just want to get married to ruin straight peoples "image" or to piss off the church?

Get over yourself and open your eyes.

[metalness11]

this is a little late isnt it?

[maidenitalia]

Speak out for what you believe in, simple as that.

[uhh_me?]

checked.

[trouble37]

No, it's not a little late. It was a very controversial vote and many think that there wasn't tnough in favor of pasing prop 8 to actually repeal gay marriage. Also, gay marriage was illegal, than it was legal, now it's illegal again. It can be made legal again, but the only way is to sway alot of voters minds.

[Absent Mind]

Nice to know America is as free as it says it is.

[Ixthyx]

Opposing gay marriage doesn't make you evil, but neither does being gay, and at least the latter doesn't propagate prejudice and hate. I've yet to hear a valid argument against gay marriage.

Mad respect to slash and Perla, who have proven themselves again and again to be decent, real people.

[i_am_metalhead]

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

[rasveer]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

well you're just being a prick because you don't know slash personally
what if he has a few good friends that are affected by this?
what if he just cares for other peoples rights?
you know if whites didn't help the blacks for their rights, it might have not gotten as far as it did for them. People have the right to help others in need. It
s different when celebrities support something stupid, but this is something that needs to be fixed, NOW!

[CrabShrapnel]

I think that to show his support for gay marriage, he should get gay married to his wife.

[GuilT]

Fags should be allowed to marry, they probably take marriage more seriously than heteros do. The divorce rate here in the U.S. is like 50%? People just aren't serious enough, it takes more than love, it takes hard work, most people get married and think it's going to last forever until they start disagreeing and arguing. Fags are picketing and protesting for that same opportunity that all Americans have. Let em' have it.

[mj2007]

perla is hot

[metalderek]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Yeah, tell your gay friends that, I'm sure they'll love to hear that.

Prince of Rinse wrote:
I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Slash has every right to support what he wants to support, celebrity or not.

[Phe4rTheGod]

traceo wrote:
Yea cause everyone who opposes gay marriage is a rebuplican and a bigot. He has as much right to his opinion as Slash does. This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

No one said that opposing it makes you evil or terrible...but obvious idiots that oppose change and complain when the country goes in circles continue to b*tch...and you're right, he is entitled to his retarded ideas, as you are, but if anyone in a position of "power" such as Slash, it's absolutely efficient to use that to help better the downward spiraling world...

And learn to spell...

[ZeBubba!]

I actually dont know that much prop 8. But cant gay's already get civil unions? the reason so many people are against Marriage, I thought was because of the tax breaks that come with it. And all those other perks that come with having kids. Since gays cant have kids, it seems a little unfair . I dunno someone educate me. Just dont be a dick cause I'm hungover.

[dudebud]

soapalot wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Jesus christ, no one forced you to get on your computer, go to this website and read this article.

haha, amen!

[flea878]

Firstly, I too am from England, but before you tell me to **** off because i'm not American so it doesn't effect me, gay-rights is not a solely American issue, believe it or not.
I think if anyone believes strongly in something, and has a platform in which they can put across (not force upon to people) their view, why not? Especially when that view is one of equality in what is supposedly a modern society. But whether 'celebrities' should be able to have their view heard over the general public is another issue I guess. I don't like how much sway celebrties can have over people, but they can only enforce your personal opinion if you let them. Just because we (by which I mean 'we' in the Western world) live in a society where celebrities are treated as royalty, doesn't mean you have to listen to them if you disagree

[SmashThings]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

If you don't like the fact that he has an opinion you should really gtfo

[rasveer]

ZeBubba! wrote:

I actually dont know that much prop 8. But cant gay's already get civil unions? the reason so many people are against Marriage, I thought was because of the tax breaks that come with it. And all those other perks that come with having kids. Since gays cant have kids, it seems a little unfair . I dunno someone educate me. Just dont be a dick cause I'm hungover.

well theres other things like being able to be with your husband or wife in an ambulance and other stuff like that

[jaxtheaxe]

nice one slash

[axenoob]

I support civil unions 110% because it still gives gays the same rights as married couples but I refuse to call apples oranges. There are other unintended consequences of legalizing gay marriage. Where would it stop? Some hick in alabama could say he wants the state to recognize his marriage to his horse and the state would have to give him that. I'm not 'denying their rights' by saying I don't support gay marriage, shoot, I have gay friends, my girlfriend has a gay brother and he's one of the coolest guys I know, I really want him to be happy but he knows about my views, he actually is with me. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

[tands]

Slash seems to just be trying to keep his head in the spotlight while Chinese Democracy is being released

[Phe4rTheGod]

Let him marry his horse, problem solved...

And comparing horses to gays doesn't really fit the scheme here...marriage is between two people, regardless the gender...

[This1GoesTo11]

I have even more respect for Slash now.

[flea878]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

Let him marry his horse, problem solved...

And comparing horses to gays doesn't really fit the scheme here...marriage is between two people, regardless the gender...

Exactly, couldn't agree more (about not comparing horses to gay people, not about letting that hick marry his horse...)

[JAMSRS]

Jazzcore23 wrote:

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.


Maybe your from England and should stay the hell out? No but really I don't know why your slamming him because if John Petrucci came out with an Anti-gay video you would be on here saying, "way to go". I get a little sick of people freaking out about simple things like a person expressing their feelings. You don't freak out everytime a senator, a person with real power, comes out and says insane stuff do you? No you only want to stab at "celebrities" because you assume that they aren't very smart. Seems to me that your a bit of a snob and you arent too keen on freedom. But hey that's your right. I assume.

You are an idiot Jazz core. I'm from Northern Ireland and guess what, i'm still entitled to an opinion. Just because you're American doesn't make you superior, it just makes the rest of the world laugh at you. While I disagree with what he says, you had no right to exclude Prince Of Rinse.

[rebeltildeth87]

I wish celebrities in general would shut the f uck up. I grow very tired of them bitching their views on politics.

[punkinbandit]

my thing with the whole prop 8 thing. right now it's kinda just a sissy pecker fight between homosexuals and christians.

it was voted on, and yeah it sucks for people, but christians won. homosexuals say it's like a slap in the face.

but if that voted on law is overturned that'll be a bigger slap in the face to christians than trying to take God out of money and the pledge of allegiance. . .

and really i like the idea of gay civil union. i wish the prop wasn't so black and white. if civil unions were granted, with all the same rights and priveledges as marriage, just eliminated the religious aspect. . . no one should have to be offended or cast aside.

[whatamidoinhere]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

I sort of agree with you there, but you've left it a bit black and white
Marriage is a religious thing, and seeing as religion opposes homosexuality, then I can see a very good reason why it wouldn't be allowed.

However, I think Civil Partnerships are a great idea; they bypass all this religious homophobic crap, and allow gay couples to be recognised by law as a couple. Seriously, every state should just allow these, I can't imagine too many people having a problem with it. The only people who would are homophobes who just plain don't like gays

[CryingAlone]

Preposition 8 was a great thing for America. I know I'm gonna get attacked for saying that but I honestly don't care.

[riffmasterjosh]

ok first of all i'm republican (like that matters). I'm not the least bit religious which can be problems with the party i support. I am for equal rights and gay marriage should be legal and it should be the states decision. No federal law should be passed for gay marrage to be legal or illegal. Whatever happend to seperation of church and state? religion should stay out of politics and slash can do whatever the **** he wants!

[poop182]

Personally, I find it irritating how everyone on here is acting like "oh its so great that slash likes gay marriage!!" but if someone like Ozzy or Mick Jagger or even Rivers Coumo just happened to say they were Against Gay marriage, and make a video just like Slash has, you would all go Fukking APE-Shiit!

Even though they would be doing the exact same thing as Slash is. Standing up and fighting for what they BELIEVE IN! Holy Fukk i cant even understand how you all are so ignorant!?!?!


*before you point it out, yes, i do know how to spell those dirty little words ;] its just so it will show up. Idiots.

[Chaingarden]

It really chaps my ass when people says stuff like "you're a musician, just shut up about politics and play music." How is that in any way concurrent with logic or reason? Clearly, someone's musical talent is inversely proportional with the value of their opinion on anything besides music...

[punkinbandit]

well yeah, but separation of church and state was instituted for the purpose of making sure life-style choices and personal beliefs don't effect the decision making of government. . . or wasting their time on pointless shit like marriage, when there's things like war and oil and shit that they should be focusing more time on.

they didn't expressly state separation of homosexuality and state. but its basically the same principle. .

[jp58]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Yet you muddle in US politics, something that doesn't effect you? hypocrite much? And I agree that slash has every single right to stand up and say whatever it is he wants...

Libertarians FTW!

[David_Bowie=GOD]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

fail

your obviously a republican, and I respect that. You should also respect other peoples opinions. Trying to inform people about something is not being a hypocrite. He isn't trying to force it on people, he isn't including a song against it in his new album he just posted a video online.

[jp58]

JAMSRS wrote:

Jazzcore23 wrote:

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.


Maybe your from England and should stay the hell out? No but really I don't know why your slamming him because if John Petrucci came out with an Anti-gay video you would be on here saying, "way to go". I get a little sick of people freaking out about simple things like a person expressing their feelings. You don't freak out everytime a senator, a person with real power, comes out and says insane stuff do you? No you only want to stab at "celebrities" because you assume that they aren't very smart. Seems to me that your a bit of a snob and you arent too keen on freedom. But hey that's your right. I assume.

You are an idiot Jazz core. I'm from Northern Ireland and guess what, i'm still entitled to an opinion. Just because you're American doesn't make you superior, it just makes the rest of the world laugh at you. While I disagree with what he says, you had no right to exclude Prince Of Rinse.

No he isnt excluding him... He is simply proving his hypocritical ways. Slash didnt do it because an interest group put him up to it, slash did it because its a cause that he and his wife believe in, POR used a stereotype, and got called out on it.

[jefffelker40]

Jazzcore23 wrote:

good for slash. Sorry jefffelker, but this is AMERICA and anyone can say what they want. Just cause you don't agree means that that person is stupid. And Im not sure how he is a hypocrite? I may not agree with what he has to say, but he certainly aint trying to force it on anyone

not just what he's saying here, i'm talking about all of the media he's been seeking lately, i couldn't give a damn about this bill, lately he's been a media *****, if you don't believe me check out what he thought about the chinese democracy leak, and after that go watch his ad spot for marshall where he talks about getting a marshall by any means "steal it if you have to" thats what i'm saying.

[jefffelker40]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

just because i don't like political views shoved in my face I'm a bigot and a republican, your assuming this, and i'm assuming your a ****ing idiot for jumping to this conclusion.

[ut1390]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

I'm just curious as to which dictionary you got that definition from, and when they EDITED that definition to shoot down the gay marriage movement. And yes, you definitely CAN go "****ing around with stuff like that" if you're trying to give somebody the rights they deserve. Everybody deserves the right to marry because "All men are created equal," and that doesn't only apply to heterosexual men, just like there was no reason to exclude blacks from that 150 years ago, and even up until the 60's and 70's when they had to fight for it.

Oh, and I'd love for someone to tell me that Freddy Mercury wasn't equal to any heterosexual guy and didn't deserve the same rights.

[phoenix1459]

axenoob wrote:

I support civil unions 110% because it still gives gays the same rights as married couples but I refuse to call apples oranges. There are other unintended consequences of legalizing gay marriage. Where would it stop? Some hick in alabama could say he wants the state to recognize his marriage to his horse and the state would have to give him that. I'm not 'denying their rights' by saying I don't support gay marriage, shoot, I have gay friends, my girlfriend has a gay brother and he's one of the coolest guys I know, I really want him to be happy but he knows about my views, he actually is with me. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

no its a completely different story between two consenting adults and one consenting adult and some animal that has no idea what's going on. similar thing with some pedophile trying to marry a 12 year old that is not old enough to make that decision.

[jefffelker40]

StereoFlare wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.
The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

yeah i guess we all have rights, even after we discuss them, i agree, and i have the right to think slash is an idiot, no offense but i liked him more when he just played the guitar and didn't tell me how to vote, or what should happen to the guy who leaked the chinese democracy tracks, we all have the right to blab, i just hope people realize he's just a guitarist, but what do i know.

[xXChimairaXx]

People say that straight people are stupid for stopping gays from marrying, but its the homosexuals that are being ridiculous. Marriage is and always has been a religious union (whether you're religious or not), and every religion in the world shuns homosexuality and deems it wrong, yet they still want to get married. Why can't they make up their own special union and leave marriage to the straight people? Call it life partners or something. Why would they want to be the same as straight married couples when they are always fighting for gay rights and proving how different they are from everyone else? Just a thought.

[jefffelker40]

TJ1991 wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

He hasn't forced anything upon you! And anyway he has a point, which shows your ignorance.

I have a point to, i have the right to my opinion just as much as your precious slash.

[jefffelker40]

metalderek wrote:

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Yeah, tell your gay friends that, I'm sure they'll love to hear that.

Prince of Rinse wrote:
I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Slash has every right to support what he wants to support, celebrity or not.

nobody's trying to take slash's rights away, it's sad that if a guitarist tells you to do something you run and do it, if i were telling you something you'd flame me and call me a noob, but if he's slash, then it all makes perfet sence.

[evilgerbil666]

[quote]whatamidoinhere wrote:

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

I sort of agree with you there, but you've left it a bit black and white
Marriage is a religious thing, and seeing as religion opposes homosexuality, then I can see a very good reason why it wouldn't be allowed.

However, I think Civil Partnerships are a great idea; they bypass all this religious homophobic crap, and allow gay couples to be recognised by law as a couple. Seriously, every state should just allow these, I can't imagine too many people having a problem with it. The only people who would are homophobes who just plain don't like gays[/quote


Ok, I've seen a ew posts about civil union o I thouht I'd step in.

If civil unions present as many rights as a marriage (and they do) Then why don't hetero couples get civil union as opposed to marriages?

Haha, and you think it's all about the rights. Did it ever dawn on you that it's deeper than that?

[sthall]

Gay rights are fine, but I can't stand the "Say no to Hate..." slogan that has become common. People vote against gay rights because they have different moral views and perspectives. To say that it is an act of hate is a misnomer; Those against gay rights have the equal right to voice their displeasure as those for gay rights do. It's not hate, its opinion.

[bballdevil187]

good for him

[Phoenix_24Leas]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Seriously, so should we leave it to white religious politicians to choose whether or not gay marriage should be allowed? He's just getting awareness out about the proposition, he's not even TALKING for crying out loud! I think if you have the power to have your voice heard on an issue you're passionate about you have every right to voice it. celebrity or not

[itmustbejesus]

"i'm a muscian not a politician and i don't believe the two should ever meet"- slash
i wonder how much money they paid him for this

[shreducator]

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.

[SlashFan810]

If people are affected by a celebrity to the effect that they will blindly follow their exression on a subject, then the real problem lies in lack of indepdendent thinking, and musicians are simply giving their spin on it. If anything this shows that musicians are not superior or inferior because they have the same desires and rights to express themselves. Just because more people are paying attention doesn't mean that they have any real power, and raising awareness is a good thing for the public; if they have such undue influence then I say those affected are at fault for giving credit where it is not due. We can all blog and soapbox and try and express ourselves all we like and anybody trying to restrict slash because he's a famous guitarist is hypocricy.

[jefffelker40]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Seriously, so should we leave it to white religious politicians to choose whether or not gay marriage should be allowed? He's just getting awareness out about the proposition, he's not even TALKING for crying out loud! I think if you have the power to have your voice heard on an issue you're passionate about you have every right to voice it. celebrity or not

i like how you just casually pulled the race card, and just kinda flung it out there, lol, hell if all else fails theres the race card!

[Kelicon]

CrabShrapnel wrote:

I think that to show his support for gay marriage, he should get gay married to his wife.

^ most intelligent post here ironically

[lockwolf]

Seems like another celebrity hopping on the minority side just to look cool. Seriously, I bet slash doesn't give a **** and is doing this for the free publicity.

[GuitarJunkie]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

That is one of the most ignorant arguments I've ever heard against gay marriage. That's one definition of marriage, and in places where gay marriage is legal that is clearly not the definition of marriage.

The main point the people who don't support gay marriage make is that it's "ruining the sanctity of marriage" etc etc...but honestly the institution of marriage is not at all being threatened by gays but rather strait people. If you haven't noticed more than 50% of marriages these days end in divorce. That is whats destroying the institution of marriage. Britney Spears and Anna Nicole Smith have done more to destroy the sanctity of marriage than gay marriage itself has.

And finally if two gay people get married, why the hell would that bother anyone else who is not directly involved in that marriage?

...rediculous

[grantg5]

I may be a republican and a devoted cathloc but I strongly oppose prop. 8. Denying the right to marry in my opinion is dening the constitutinal right to life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. The reasons prop. 8 support give are some of the worst resons scence slavery and descrimination to african americans.

[Cafas]

Do people not realize how stupid and stereotypically 'Liberal Teen' they sound when they say shit like 'you're obviously a Republican'? You can be a Republican and not give a shit about social issues, believe it or not. And I'm sure lots of Democrats were in favor of this bill, too. Obviously each party has social positions that they soapbox, but at the end of the day, you're a member of whatever party you're a part of for the economy and the good of the country, not because you're a dumbass hick or a liberal fag.

[Cafas]

Not to mention black voters came out in record numbers not just to vote for Obama, but to vote 'Yes' for prop 8. But everyone's going to jump on the 'White conservative racist' bandwagon, because hey, you can't say anything remotely negative or critical of black people when you're liberal.

[tsk84eva]

wow i never knew slash liked balls in his mouth...
but seriously i never pay attention to anything famous people say. slash used to seem like a cool dude, but now he's just like every other overpaid hollywood star or musician

[GuitarJunkie]

Cafas wrote:

Do people not realize how stupid and stereotypically 'Liberal Teen' they sound when they say shit like 'you're obviously a Republican'? You can be a Republican and not give a shit about social issues, believe it or not. And I'm sure lots of Democrats were in favor of this bill, too. Obviously each party has social positions that they soapbox, but at the end of the day, you're a member of whatever party you're a part of for the economy and the good of the country, not because you're a dumbass hick or a liberal fag.

I agree with you, and the person above you is a prime example of that, however generally speaking if you look at someones stance on a certain social issue i.e. gay marriage, abortion etc. you can, more often than not infer what political party they associate more with.

But your right, it's not at all foolproof and people can't be lumped into partisan groups based solely upon one stance on one issue

[Cafas]

I agree with you, and the person above you is a prime example of that, however generally speaking if you look at someones stance on a certain social issue i.e. gay marriage, abortion etc. you can, more often than not infer what political party they associate more with.

Of course, of course. I honestly respect you for countering what I said with logic and reason.

[Kidzelda]

axenoob wrote:

I support civil unions 110% because it still gives gays the same rights as married couples but I refuse to call apples oranges. There are other unintended consequences of legalizing gay marriage. Where would it stop? Some hick in alabama could say he wants the state to recognize his marriage to his horse and the state would have to give him that.

Actually, the state wouldn't have to recognize that, and I'll tell you why: Animals don't have any rights, for the same reason minors don't; The law doesn't consider them fit to have them because they don't understand the implications. They aren't sentient, so they can't enter any kind of legal contract.

Another thing worth noting is that prop 8 didn't ban civil unions. Just marriage. So they still have most (if not all) of the rights that come with marriage. It pretty much comes down to the word. I, for one, don't give a damn one way or the other on that particular front. It's a word, get over it.

[sick&twisted]

Just let the pole smokers and carpet lickers get married... The government only did this to distract the people from something else thats going on... Its a conspiracy lmao... Honestly, homos are not hurting anything.

[Cafas]

Trying to somehow tie bestiality and homosexuality together in any capacity is dangerously stupid.

[Shinsen88]

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people,

This.

[ozzyslayer]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.


Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

Tru dat! Hell yeah for this guy

[bamann]

wtf? god created a man and a woman. wonder why? there r so meny other issues of more importance to use your influences 4. r u kidding me?

[thbeekk]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Yet you seem to have no problem forcing your views upon the people who visit this forum.

[bamann]

no one forced anyone 2 come here, let alone force an opinion on anyone. u are just compelled to read the opinion of others. hence, this forum.

[clapton-floyd]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Yeah, but it's being voted on by both gay and non-gay people. So Slash and anyone can say whatever the hell they want.

It's not just gay people voting and showing their views, why can't Slash?

This is what is called "Democracy". If gay people want to marry each other, let them get on with it, it's not hurting anyone, it's not making life worse for people.

[element4433]

Checked.

Don't use any derogatory terms for homosexuals please.

[PAsistem]

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, prop 8 is discrimination. Ultimately, it all comes down to people not wanting to grant rights to another human because they're not worth slightly modifying a definition for.

[This1GoesTo11]

Kelicon wrote:

CrabShrapnel wrote:

I think that to show his support for gay marriage, he should get gay married to his wife.


^ most intelligent post here ironically

That's intelligent? I must be a genius.

[Phe4rTheGod]

jefffelker40 wrote:
just because i don't like political views shoved in my face I'm a bigot and a republican, your assuming this, and i'm assuming your a ****ing idiot for jumping to this conclusion.

Then don't watch TV or get on the internet if you don't 'like political views shoved in your face'...and don't act as a 'hypocrite' and show up on some website trying to force your view onto everyone else...

Practice what you preach...

[Phe4rTheGod]

ozzyslayer wrote:

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.


Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...
Tru dat! Hell yeah for this guy

Thanks man...

[Thefallofman]

It's funny how everyone calls you gay for supporting gay rights.

Like, am I going to start being called "black" for believing in equality? Makes no sense to me.

Is it that ****ing weird to care about people different from you? That's so incredibly sad.

[Cutlass_253]

I believe the problem is with government. You gotta remember, making marriage a legal process is a clear violation of "seperation of church and state," which is why we have such muddy ground in this issues. If marriage had stayed purely religious than only the church could ordain who got married, but because of all of the rights that come with marriage the goverment had to get involved, there was no other way to keep it ordered. Because of this its almost inevitable that gay marriage will be allowed eventually.

Do I agree? No, but not because I'm against homosexuality, or gay rights. I disagree because then it gives the power to define marriage to the government, when it was originally a sacrament. I believe that there should be a clear line between a legal government marriage and a religious marriage.

Oh wait, there is. And for homosexuals its called a civil union. But the stupid ass government made it different from a "traditional marriage". Well of course, if you deny rights from people they're going to want to take them back. I don't blame homosexuals for wanting their rights, I just wish that so much wasn't put into the name.

No matter what, what the government says, and what the church says is different, and very few members of the church are ever going to submit to "gay marriage", no matter what the government says. So what I don't get is why do the homosexuals insist on calling it "marriage?" Why can't they be happy with the rights it instills.

After all, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

[TheWickerMan666]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Let's say "people", not "celebrities". "Celebrities" kinda' divorces them from reality a bit.

And why should he not be allowed to voice his opinion? Like you said, you agree with gay marriage being okay. You've told people your opinion. He told people his. Should he not be allowed, just because he's famous, and more people will notice what he's said? Hypocrite, perhaps?

Oh, and I'm from England too. Whoop-de-doo.

[/rant]

Anyway, good for Slash. I'm glad that he's doing what he can for something he believes in.

[Ibzman]

1rst: Musicians have the right to share the opinions as much as anyone.
2nd: It is even more important in this case that someone admired all around the world speaks up to tell everyone how ridiculous it is to hate someone for who he loves.
3rd: How does it affect you that gay people can marry ? They'Re just as human and/or catholic as you are. Stop being *******s, theres no need to hate in this world and it starts there. I am straight but what I preach is liberty and freedom among everyone and I don't think we have the right to forbid gay marriage.

[axenoob]

clapton-floyd wrote:

Kidzelda wrote:

axenoob wrote:

I support civil unions 110% because it still gives gays the same rights as married couples but I refuse to call apples oranges. There are other unintended consequences of legalizing gay marriage. Where would it stop? Some hick in alabama could say he wants the state to recognize his marriage to his horse and the state would have to give him that.


Actually, the state wouldn't have to recognize that, and I'll tell you why: Animals don't have any rights, for the same reason minors don't; The law doesn't consider them fit to have them because they don't understand the implications. They aren't sentient, so they can't enter any kind of legal contract.

Another thing worth noting is that prop 8 didn't ban civil unions. Just marriage. So they still have most (if not all) of the rights that come with marriage. It pretty much comes down to the word. I, for one, don't give a damn one way or the other on that particular front. It's a word, get over it.


Double post. But seriously f*cking OWNED!!

I wouldn't say I was owned. The fact is animals do have rights, which is why you can't shove m-80's up dogs butts and not expect someone who sees it to call the cops on you. Look at Michael Vick. He's a star and he's serving two years in jail for dogfighting. But keep in mind guys, I'm not trying to set up an equivelancy and say horses=gay people. No, not at all. I'm just saying if we set precedent now and change the definition of marriage, something that some of us still consider sacred, then it can keep changing to include anything. I absolutely want civil unions for gays, they deserve the same rights as married couples. They're still human, and they can absolutely have a special someone, no one in their right mind would want to take that away.

[Phe4rTheGod]

Cafas wrote:

Do people not realize how stupid and stereotypically 'Liberal Teen' they sound when they say shit like 'you're obviously a Republican'? You can be a Republican and not give a shit about social issues, believe it or not. And I'm sure lots of Democrats were in favor of this bill, too. Obviously each party has social positions that they soapbox, but at the end of the day, you're a member of whatever party you're a part of for the economy and the good of the country, not because you're a dumbass hick or a liberal fag.

That varies depending on the post and how your view is portrayed...saying 'f*ck fags' obviously shows retardation to any changes set to come...but instead saying as you attempted with reason, it sounds a bit more personal...

The sad thing is that many on this site are still living with mommy and daddy and can't think for themselves so they run the path that their parents set for them...

Cafas wrote:

Not to mention black voters came out in record numbers not just to vote for Obama, but to vote 'Yes' for prop 8. But everyone's going to jump on the 'White conservative racist' bandwagon, because hey, you can't say anything remotely negative or critical of black people when you're liberal.

Disagree 100%, you don't have the faintest clue on what you posted...and that's a double standard to what you posted previously, not all republicans are white...

[Coxon]

Grow up the lot of ya!

[ChucklesMginty]

I swear there's nothing to hate about Slash

[oands]

isn't that the thing in X-men
where the gov't bans the mutants?
did they do that on purpose..?

[clapton-floyd]

Cafas wrote:
Not to mention black voters came out in record numbers not just to vote for Obama, but to vote 'Yes' for prop 8. But everyone's going to jump on the 'White conservative racist' bandwagon, because hey, you can't say anything remotely negative or critical of black people when you're liberal.

I haven't got a problem with saying negative things about black people, as long as they're not racist.

For example, there is a black lad at the school connected to my college who is an annoying little dick, not cos he's black, just because he's an annoying dick. Yet if I say anything to him about it, he says that I'm being racist.
Incorrect. There, something negative about a black person.

Nothing racist, or conservative. Just because I'm white he tries to quwell me calling him an annoying dick, because we are of different races.

On the topic in hand, everyone has a right to express their views= basic democracy, get over it. The internet is the most politicised place there is.
And marriage is a church term, and if the church refuses to recognise gay marriage that's up to them.

Peronally if I were gay I wouldn't want to have a marriage that has as anything to do with the church.

As long as gay marriage is all the same as straight marriage in all but name, I don't think that should be too bigger deal.

[Cafas]

lol, way to make an issue where there isn't one. I was simply saying that no one wants to call out the black voters in this case, not that liberals can't criticize blacks.

[Cutlass_253]

clapton-floyd wrote:

Cafas wrote:
Not to mention black voters came out in record numbers not just to vote for Obama, but to vote 'Yes' for prop 8. But everyone's going to jump on the 'White conservative racist' bandwagon, because hey, you can't say anything remotely negative or critical of black people when you're liberal.


I haven't got a problem with saying negative things about black people, as long as they're not racist.

For example, there is a black lad at the school connected to my college who is an annoying little dick, not cos he's black, just because he's an annoying dick. Yet if I say anything to him about it, he says that I'm being racist.
Incorrect. There, something negative about a black person.

Nothing racist, or conservative. Just because I'm white he tries to quwell me calling him an annoying dick, because we are of different races.

On the topic in hand, everyone has a right to express their views= basic democracy, get over it. The internet is the most politicised place there is.
And marriage is a church term, and if the church refuses to recognise gay marriage that's up to them.

Peronally if I were gay I wouldn't want to have a marriage that has as anything to do with the church.

As long as gay marriage is all the same as straight marriage in all but name, I don't think that should be too bigger deal.

I agree with this post.

[bigMaor]

I think his wife drag him into this, but its very nice of them to do.

[Cafas]

Disagree 100%, you don't have the faintest clue on what you posted...and that's a double standard to what you posted previously, not all republicans are white...

And you misunderstood my point.

[kgesme21]

lockwolf wrote:

Seems like another celebrity hopping on the minority side just to look cool. Seriously, I bet slash doesn't give a **** and is doing this for the free publicity.

Really? Wasn't aware a man with the name "Slash" was in need of publicity.

Anyway, good him, putting his name into the ring like this. I mean, for everybody saying "oh he doesn't really care," just look at this board. And by that I mean the man is attaching his image to something that's rather controversial and can get many people angry at you (look at the board part). You think he would do this to his name just for publicty?

I personally disagree with Prop 8. It's discriminating, and I thought we as Americans were above that.

[Phe4rTheGod]

Cafas wrote:

Disagree 100%, you don't have the faintest clue on what you posted...and that's a double standard to what you posted previously, not all republicans are white...


Then you should have made a better point...
And you misunderstood my point.

[backtobasic]

I think people need to realize that gay marriage was banned in a blue state. You can't call someone a republican just because they oppose gay marriage. Obviously it was democratic state that voted for the ban. It was a prop that was voted on as well. The people of Cali spoke.

[aig91]

Checked

[eltravo]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

and it's any more acceptable when millions of non-celebrities do it?

It's an important issue, and millions of people before him have made videos expressing their views on this matter, they just happen to be not widely liked enough to get off of youtube.

everyone has their own opinion, just because slash has more money or is more popular with the world than us is nor reason to deprive him of his.

[cj10schmelzer]

First of, I'm a conservative and I believe gays have the right to be together. Marriage is a religious thing right? And last time i checked, we were supposed to separate church and state, so I believe the government should have nothing to do with it.

[thedarkblues06]

All of you argue about something that IS COMPLETELY IRRELAVENT!!!

It was a proposition of an amendment to the California Constitution, it was VOTED into LAW by the CONSTITUENTS. No gays/gay rights activists can go and change that. If they want to change it, vote FOR it NEXT go round.

It sucks for the gays, it really does, and I for one was against Proposition 8 from the start. But it's too bad. You can't go to a JUDGE to overthrow the damn thing, when it's not their JOB. Go to your legislature, and get it done the RIGHT way, by VOTING on it. Wait, didn't Californians vote to enact Proposition 8? Oh yeah, they did.

Proposition 9, allow same-sex marriage, and win on it. The constituents voted, and it passed. End of discussion. Sorry for all the gay rights advocates...but it PASSED LEGALLY.

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

everyone needs to calm down. cuz at this point i think the best course of action would be to abolish marriage as a ceremony completely.

under my judicious reign, marriage will be embodied in a legal document. go have a party afterward if you like.

[metaltolliver]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

I agree completely. Slash is great and all, but who cares what the hell he thinks? I personally support prop 8, but no one cares since I aint famous. Why should his opinion take precedence over mine just cause he has fame and cash?

[leftybassdude]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Words can take new definitions
do you think Gay always meant what it means now?
The truth is what the majority believes.

[pwninator123]

leftybassdude wrote:

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Words can take new definitions
do you think Gay always meant what it means now?
The truth is what the majority believes.

It still doesn't mean what it does now, that's called slang

[ironBLSmaiden]

^Obvious republican and bigot...
That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

why? im a republican and i support gay marrige. as long as they don't bother me, then let them do whatever

[arcticradiohead]

slash can say whatever the hell he wants. dont like it dont listen to it.

i dont support prop 8 because seperation of church and state. it doesnt just mean that the church cant mess with the state, it means the state cant mess with the church either. it would be different if the govt was banning civil unions or saying they wouldnt recognize gay marriages, because they have a say in that. but they're not, they're supporting civil unions and telling the church what they can and cant do. thats not they're place.

[whitebluesboy]

If gay people want to get married or partnered or whatever and be miserable and get divorced like the rest of us then who cares? It's not like they are gonna turn your kids gay or try and rape you or some crazy shit like that.

[ldl67]

Marriage predates modern religion, which redefined marriage as being between a man and a woman. This argument of gay marriage redefining the term is just stupid.

[Shadowdan89]

honestly the fact that there has been the amount of comments there has been on this subject just shows the success slash has had as we are all now talkin about it here on this forum
im from england and had no idea this had gone through now i do
thanks slash mate
because this is the point... celebrities bring things to peoples attention because of what society is like... not the way it should be but there we go
i think love between whatever sexes should be expressed in the same way...
i mean in europe i think somone is legally married to a fence or something like tht.. stupid example but in the face of it makes gay marriage seem normal which is of course what it should be
love is love
end of

[JimMRocks]

Maybe he feels guilty for playing "One In A Million"...
haha, jk.
But really, I think it's cool there are people reacting to this. If O.J. Simpson can get away with murder, if we have the right to free speech, IF GEORGE F***ING BUSH CAN GET RE-ELECTED, why can't men love men and women love women. It's good for our country that we have a rising issue like this, because without the conflicts, we would have peace and no worries, and if we had peace and no worries, that gives time for Russia to bomb us.....

[fastlanestoner]

slash is the man. i completely agree. do what it takes to be happy. god knows this world needs it.

[psychokiller99]

i love how people bash on celebrities and say the have no right to say anything, or that they should shut the hell up, or that no one cares about their opinions. at the same time, they are here on UG flaming people's ideas, opinions, and feelings; freely voicing their opinion to the general public. there are a lot of strange people on UG.

i also love how slash never really ever says anything, unless he really has to. they always manage to get him to play something on the guitar and that's it haha.

[frantic_saint]

it should be legal for gays to marry. Why should only straights suffer?

[TheBurningFish]

What a hilarious debate.

I don't think I've heard very many good arguments against gay marriage, which I think is the go-ahead to make it legal. As for Slash, well just like I don't give a shit if gays are getting married, I don't give a shit if him or his wife are supporting it.

[onemanarmy9]

Well, the simplistic solution is to change the rights of a civil union to have fully equal rights to that of a traditional marriage, and offer similar ceremonies for these. Since what I believe is a want to normalize their lives through acceptance of marriage, this would be the optimal solution, whether or not it happens is a different story.

[PenFighter19]

traceo wrote:

Phe4rTheGod :
jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.


Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...


Yea cause everyone who opposes gay marriage is a rebuplican and a bigot. He has as much right to his opinion as Slash does. This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

I suppose you disapprove of Civil Rights as well. This is America. Denying someone their rights is wrong.
Florida Constitutional Amendment 2 (passed along with Proposition 8) as presented on Florida election ballots states: "...defining marriage as a between a man and a woman, and no other relationship shall be given similar rights."
This includes much more than gay marriage. Are you really against giving someone their rights? If you support Amendment 2 and Proposition 8, then yes, you are. Its open discrimination. And in the media eye, yes, evil.


Bottom line: Good for Slash. I dont like Slash. But good for Slash. "Whats the point of having a stage and a microphone if youre not gonna use it for something good?"

[LedZeppelin9345]

i am of the same opinion as Slash, but if our opinions differed, i would still respect his opinion just like i respect others' opinions

[rdwarn]

I love the fact that the PEOPLE of California voted a particular way on Proposition 8 and now mobs of the minority are protesting the vote of the PEOPLE...as if to say "screw democracy".

By the way, this is the 2nd time the people of California voted against gay marriage. It was on the ballot in '04 and was voted down. Then judicial activists in California overruled the people's vote so it had to be voted on a second time in '08. No i'm not republican...just educated.

[mitch311]

Eh Im against marriage all together. Why do gay people even care that they can't get married? Its not like marriage means anything. Isnt marriage religious crap anyway and they're against gays so who cares. Marriage is bs

[GenmathePanda]

ROFL @ Slash's shirt in the video:

"Debbie Does Dallas"

[guitarlad89]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

I'm with ya there man..... doesn't America have any morals any more?????.....anyway,he's ****in sold out already to guitar hero. Glad Jimmy Page keeps out of the spotlight.....he knows what to do, same w/Angus Young.

[bbbbrooks1]

StereoFlare wrote:

The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

NO NOT AT ALL!!! They are MUSICians....NOT...i repeat NOT POLITICians.....there is a very fine line....Don't cross it

[ethan is hot]

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man
just because he supports gay marrage doesn't mean he wants to marry another man dumbass

[rdwarn]

PenFighter19 wrote:

I suppose you disapprove of Civil Rights as well. This is America. Denying someone their rights is wrong.
Florida Constitutional Amendment 2 (passed along with Proposition 8) as presented on Florida election ballots states: "...defining marriage as a between a man and a woman, and no other relationship shall be given similar rights."
This includes much more than gay marriage. Are you really against giving someone their rights? If you support Amendment 2 and Proposition 8, then yes, you are. Its open discrimination. And in the media eye, yes, evil.

Hahaha..."in the media eye, yes, evil". You rely on the media to tell you what is "good" and "evil". After this election season, how anyone who has any shred of independant thought can look to the American media and believe a word that they say or write is beyond me. I don't care what side of the election you were on, it was painfully obvious that objectivity in journalism was thrown out the window.

By the way, I agree with you except you are too narrow minded in only considering homosexuals...how dare we here in America deny our fellow Americans their rights to marry...say their pet dog, cat, horse, etc... How can we possibly call ourselves a tolerant society?

[slashNpage77]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

because he was supporting something that he has no right to.
.

right there, you're comment=invalid
i don't give a flying **** if you're from england, if you're a republican or democrat, or if you support this issue or not, EVERYONE has the right to have an opinion and a say in ANY issue. that is the basis for democracy. you don't have to be a politician to advocate for certain things. i don't know what you're on about, but you need to realize you're not the only one on this planet

[Setabominae336]

metalness11 wrote:

this is a little late isnt it?

Indeed it is. So you guys should just shut up about it.

[ihavenoname93]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

being a muscisian makes you lose your right to support your opinion? and if slash doesnt want to marry men, then that gives him no right to argue? ok then, you're not one of the starving children in africa who's family has been killed and has been raped everyday, you cant speak out for it. you have made the most invalid statement ever

[Blackflame47]

Why does Arizona's Prop 102 not get any attention...

[Floydian45]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Honestly, who gives a shit? Do you live your life according to one-sided definitions? What exactly is it about gay people that hurts you? If you are one of those advocates of preserving the sanctity of marriage, you need to stfu. Marriages these days don't mean shit. People get married in 20 minutes in Vegas and most marriages in North America end in divorce within a few years.

[Walternativo]

slash = awesome. So is his wife

[shadow__666]

I'm not American, and I'm proud to live in a country where we recognise the basic rights of all humans, one of which is to marry who you choose. And I say good on Slash. Sure it may seem like it's not his place, but hell. If some 12 year old kid with a Guitar Hero controller and a Christian anti-gay family sees Slash's video and says "OMG that d00d wit da bada$$ hairz f0rm guitar her0 d0enst lyke gay marriage maybz its n0t so0o bad", well isn't that a good thing?

[The Spoon]

Blackflame47 wrote:

Why does Arizona's Prop 102 not get any attention...

Too many damn mormons live here. Im so sad it got passed

The church spent too much money trying to pass prop 102.

[dieloony2]

Good for him. Prop 8 never should have passed. Keep up the fight.

and for those who say musicians shouldn't have an opinion cause their musicians, wtf are you smoking?

it's not like he's forced his political beliefs on you, he said his part.

music and politics go hand in hand, like the generations of art dedicated to enlightening people.

[zapatista89]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

as far as im aware we all have a right to support causes we stand for! and why in the name of god shouldnt musicians voice their opinions, would you rather slash didnt say what he beleived and became tthered like a slave to his record company? people earn the right to voice their opinions from status, but thats not to say they can vote mor etimes tan you.

[dylanfg]

hmm im so confused

[zapatista89]

n btw, all im all in favor of gay marriage, if i didnt make my stance cleat

[zapatista89]

bbbbrooks1 wrote:

StereoFlare wrote:

The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

NO NOT AT ALL!!! They are MUSICians....NOT...i repeat NOT POLITICians.....there is a very fine line....Don't cross it

so what is music without message, it is no longer art or expression, it becomes gray corporate bullshit like your soul seems to be

[GIBSONroks6167]

well, its hard 2 tell whether or not this is sincere. he may be doing it to "look better," or he may really believe that. either way people, we DONT KNOW so shut up about it

[jonnyrotten45]

this was the same guy who said he hated musicians who try and my politicians

[arethemad]

bbbbrooks1 wrote:

StereoFlare wrote:

The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.

NO NOT AT ALL!!! They are MUSICians....NOT...i repeat NOT POLITICians.....there is a very fine line....Don't cross it

You're a ****ing idiot. The United States is a government that's supposed to be run for the people and by the people.

Furthermore, by saying that, you're insinuating that nobody but politicians should have an opinion on anything political? How in the **** would we elect a president if people aren't allowed to have a political point of view?

[Cutlass_253]

ldl67 wrote:

Marriage predates modern religion, which redefined marriage as being between a man and a woman. This argument of gay marriage redefining the term is just stupid.

Well modern religion predates our government. By your logic that gives them more control over it than the government.

Don't be ignorant. We're talking about the present here, and the modern day definitions (plural) of marriage.

And for the people that say marriage isn't sacred, that's one view of people that isn't supported by everybody. I still believe marriage is sacred, and when and if I get married it will be to the person I am fully prepared to spend the rest of my life with.

Marriage isn't "not sacred" because people get divorced. People get divorced (and married sometimes) because they forget that marriage is supposed to be sacred. Marriage is still far from a purely legal prospect.

Don't get me wrong though, I think homosexuals deserve all the same rights as heterosexuals. But there's a lot of flawed logic here, and its coming from both sides.

[supersonic23]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Just because he's a musician doesn't take his right of opinion away.

[zayG]

shreducator wrote:

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.

people care about what is a sin or not? i forgot not everyone was a christian, let alone religious at all. why shouldn't someone have the choice to decide who they want to be with, or are you just one of those christians who are worried that something you are against is getting a foothold in the country?

[Cutlass_253]

shreducator wrote:

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.

Actually it is done in nature, and by the only animal that matters. Dolphins .

They are the only other animals that have sex for pleasure, and as a result, who share emotional ties with their partners. And yes, those partners are on occasion of the same sex.

[smoothie/92]

i LOVE slash as a guitar player but who is to try and preach political views? hes no upstanding citizen. and in interviews with him in the past he has claimed to be against gay marrige.

[gizmodious]

Its a loveless world...

Let them find love where they can. You should be allowed to marry who you love, regardless of if they are straight or gay.

[gizmodious]

Cutlass_253 wrote:

shreducator wrote:

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.


Actually it is done in nature, and by the only animal that matters. Dolphins .

They are the only other animals that have sex for pleasure, and as a result, who share emotional ties with their partners. And yes, those partners are on occasion of the same sex.

Chimps too.

[Cutlass_253]

gizmodious wrote:

Cutlass_253 wrote:

shreducator wrote:

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.


Actually it is done in nature, and by the only animal that matters. Dolphins .

They are the only other animals that have sex for pleasure, and as a result, who share emotional ties with their partners. And yes, those partners are on occasion of the same sex.

Chimps too.

Actually those are just hairy people.

[brentondig]

So backwards of California to ban gay marriage after having it allowed. People should be allowed to marry whoever their love if they want, regardless of gender. They're people, let them get married.

[Tanooki]

Some of you are forgetting that Slash's involvement didn't do jack all. Prop 8 was given a 'Yes' more than it was a 'No.'

And on the topic of 'meridge is a secred word that meens men and wemen married,' grow the **** up. Religion is hardly relevant at all these days when it comes down to it. Now you're just ****ing grasping at every straw that you can find. Civil unions are a great idea in my eyes, but for **** sake. Marriage is, like many others, just a word.

Pro Gay Union.

[Cutlass_253]

Tanooki wrote:

Some of you are forgetting that Slash's involvement didn't do jack all. Prop 8 was given a 'Yes' more than it was a 'No.'

And on the topic of 'meridge is a secred word that meens men and wemen married,' grow the **** up. Religion is hardly relevant at all these days when it comes down to it. Now you're just ****ing grasping at every straw that you can find. Civil unions are a great idea in my eyes, but for **** sake. Marriage is, like many others, just a word.

Pro Gay Union.

WRONG. Religion as a political movement is incredibly powerful. That's the whole issues! How else do you think George W. Bush got elected twice!

However, I do agree with your general philosophy.

[Mootallica]

Tanooki wrote:

Some of you are forgetting that Slash's involvement didn't do jack all. Prop 8 was given a 'Yes' more than it was a 'No.'

And on the topic of 'meridge is a secred word that meens men and wemen married,' grow the **** up. Religion is hardly relevant at all these days when it comes down to it. Now you're just ****ing grasping at every straw that you can find. Civil unions are a great idea in my eyes, but for **** sake. Marriage is, like many others, just a word.

Pro Gay Union.

What you say is partly true, but is partly false.

Most of societies laws are based on religion, the only one of the ten commandments which isn't a law is cheating and divorcing.

But aside from that, marriage now-a-days has truly become something which is just a revenue raiser, and a piece of paper saying you love somebody (where in many cases, another paper saying GTFO my life [divorce papers] is filed a few years later).

As for what Slash has said, he is not forcing his views on anybody, he is merely expressing them, but he is not saying. Oh, you must do this, you must do that, he is just raising more awareness of an issue, and whether you agree or disagree with his view, you've gotta commend him for it.

Also, on the issue of gay marriage, I don't mind if gays decide to get married, just as long as they don't push their views on me (I'm straight), I really don't mind.

[Megadeth2011]

i hear somebody talking, but all I see are Perla's boobs

And for those people complaining about Slash- that's his OPINION. You have YOUR own OPINION and he has HIS OPINION. I personally disagree with gay marriage myself, but please stop the arguing.

[Cutlass_253]

Mootallica wrote:

Tanooki wrote:

Also, on the issue of gay marriage, I don't mind if gays decide to get married, just as long as they don't push their views on me (I'm straight), I really don't mind.

I don't mean to ridicule...but what views? Like their stance on gay marriage? Which you seem to agree with.

Or are you actually trying to say that you think gay people try to go around converting people to be homosexuals?

[Mootallica]

Cutlass_253 wrote:

Mootallica wrote:

Tanooki wrote:

Also, on the issue of gay marriage, I don't mind if gays decide to get married, just as long as they don't push their views on me (I'm straight), I really don't mind.

I don't mean to ridicule...but what views? Like their stance on gay marriage? Which you seem to agree with.

Or are you actually trying to say that you think gay people try to go around converting people to be homosexuals?

I know a few that do.

[Cutlass_253]

Mootallica wrote:

I know a few that do.

Oh, well...as far as I know that's not really a view that most homosexuals share. I feel that as much respect that we give to homosexuals must be given back to us, and that if homosexuals go around trying to "convert" people then its going to set the homosexual society back years.

To me, that would be unacceptable, as though I was trying to convince a homosexual to be straight.

[Mootallica]

Cutlass_253 wrote:

Mootallica wrote:

I know a few that do.

Oh, well...as far as I know that's not really a view that most homosexuals share. I feel that as much respect that we give to homosexuals must be given back to us, and that if homosexuals go around trying to "convert" people then its going to set the homosexual society back years.

To me, that would be unacceptable, as though I was trying to convince a homosexual to be straight.

And I totally agree with you there

[Bamitchell]

It's funny...if Slash had said "Fight against gay marriage!" People would be having a fit. Stuff like, he can't force his ways on us and crap like that, but he says he supports it, and everyone is like "its good to see Musicians supporting what they think is right"

[Autumnfallsbest]

This whole news thread is gay (lol)

[slayer666z]

Bamitchell wrote:

It's funny...if Slash had said "Fight against gay marriage!" People would be having a fit. Stuff like, he can't force his ways on us and crap like that, but he says he supports it, and everyone is like "its good to see Musicians supporting what they think is right"

so true

[slaptasticdave]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

I would hope you mean a Republican and a bigot as seperate comments, otherwise your post has no meaning, as you yourself would become a bigot by making a rash generalization.

[BucketheadRules]

traceo wrote:
This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

No it isn't

[Ironpriest]

Musicians are people too. They can say whatever they want.

[MASTER768]

I think that maybe his wife talked him into it. I mean, he might not care, but his wife might be all "honey lets help those poor gays", and he was all like, " i really think i shouldn't" and she'd be, "fine just play the guitar in the background, i'll talk". Has anyone ever thought of that, hmmmmm?

[Bamitchell]

BucketheadRules wrote:

traceo wrote:
This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

No it isn't

yeah it is. The same as saying someone is evil for being for gay marriage is bull. It works both ways.

[AdemaOnYourHead]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Nobody ASKED Slash to do this. He can say whatever and support whatever he wants. Oh, and by your logic, we shouldn't hate on Hitler so much since most of us aren't Jewish.

[ayreon37]

There is nothing funnier than seeing a whole bunch of angry people screaming at each other on a forum that nobody of any real importance to the sides in discussion reads. I will say this though... you guys have used the word "ignorant" a lot less than most of the other forums I see.

By the way, despite all the arguments I read (and I skipped ahead once people started repeating each other), I never once saw anybody give some kind of actual reason why Slash shouldn't use his fame to bolster his beliefs... way to miss that point, logic nuts.

[Gordita Supreme]

traceo wrote:

Yea cause everyone who opposes gay marriage is a rebuplican and a bigot. He has as much right to his opinion as Slash does. This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

Not really. It does make you a bigot.

[cm_punk_fan]

soapalot wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Jesus christ, no one forced you to get on your computer, go to this website and read this article.

actually exactly what he said... no one forced you t read this article

and am i the only one who though this said slash speak out on preperation h?

[Bamitchell]

cm_punk_fan wrote:



and am i the only one who though this said slash speak out on preperation h?

No...thats exactly what I thought

[guitarist41]

Nothing against gays. Hell, they're usually alot nicer people than your average joe, but to me marraige is between a man and a woman. Must be hard for gay people, living in this world, though...

supporting gay marraige = bi-curious...nah I'm joking, of course

[DanteLord]

I think this is cool. good for slash.

[Cutlass_253]

Being against gay marriage doesn't make you a "bigot" or "evil" or "stupid". All it means is that you have beliefs and opinions. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't make them any worse of a person than you are. Yes, some people who are against gay marriage are "ignorant" as someone posted above, but not all of them. The real "ignorant" people are the ones who refuse to listen to others, and there seem to be just as many ignorant people who support gay marriage as there are who are against it.

As for Slash. I think its good he's standing up for something he sees as noble. I don't think its good he's trying to stir conflict on something that's been voted on already. If he really cared he'd of done it sooner, or would wait till next time, when something LEGAL can be done.

[helvete_og_død]

shreducator wrote:

Honestly, I would support the fags if someone could prove to me that homosexuality is ok. If it's ok, then why don't animals do it? Sodomy is a sin, and there is really no way around that fact. So power to Proposition 8, it's one of the few laws that is trying to help our country stay respectable.

respectable by violating human rights? And animals do, do it. dogs, chimps, dolphins (especially dogs i've noticed {not too closely though!}) but yeah, plus i can't believe how minorities had such a strong support for prop 8. my mom was driving me home from school and talked to me about why i shouldn't support gay marriage; she said that in the bible it says that it is wrong. what's sad though is that about 60 years ago, some racist mother told her child word for word what my mom said to me, except instead of gays, it was blacks and mexicans. Then i asked her "what if the church (catholic) didn't want Mexicans to get married?" and she said "god loves all races, but not gay people, they are dirty and perverted and they have the devil in them". note like 10 seconds later she said "you should still respect them, but don't let them ruin the good, god-given name of marriage" (this conversation was all in spanish). and my language arts teacher who is from the Philippines is a self described god fearer and voted yes on prop 8. i should have told her this: what if you werent allowed to marry your husband {who is from romania} because people of YOUR religion quoted the bible YOU read to say that YOU can't get married? it just makes me sick how some people are so bigoted.

IT IS 2008 GOD DAMNIT!

[Kiffa]

I personally think that gay marriage should be legal, I think it is here in the UK, not sure though, but I am against Gay Adoption, not anything against homosexuals, but soley because of the shit the kid will get throughout their life, and it clearly would not be good.

[musickman]

here's why i support gay marriage.
say u and ur friend's names are both regular Dan. if you were working at an office, and your friend got a promotion. now he gets a raise, a new office, and everyone calls hims super Dan. well guess what? you got lucky, you got promoted too! but, as luck would have it, nobody calls you super Dan. and to make things worse, your raise wasn't as much as your friend's, even though you got the same promotion!! How unfair! all gay marriage is is a title and a piece of paper. land of the free, indeed.

[stradivari310]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

THIS.

[rusty-knives]

Bucketheadroolz wrote:

gay marrige is a sin. and marraige isn't for gay people, its for opposite sex's! you can be as gay as you want, but you cant marry! the bride is supposed to be female...

Civil union isn't the same thing as a marriage.

[wilfredoMercado]

**** slash

YES ON PROP 8

[Regression]

bbbbrooks1 wrote:

StereoFlare wrote:

The more awareness brought to this issue the better, regardless of whether or not we support their opinion. There needs to be more of a discussion on important social issues (such as suicide, legalization or decriminalization of substances, gay rights, abortion and gun possession) and I'm happy to hear anyone speak their mind. Just because he's famous, or rather they're famous, doesn't mean that they don't have a say in the events taking place in their country and I, for one, would like to see more actors and musicians get involved.

Now I will agree that people like Bono should shut up and sing as his various causes dampen his music, however Slash has yet to write about Prop 8 and until he does he has every right to discuss it.


NO NOT AT ALL!!! They are MUSICians....NOT...i repeat NOT POLITICians.....there is a very fine line....Don't cross it

Democracy.

From the Greek word demos meaning people and the suffix -cracy meaning government.

Just because you are not a politician does not mean you have no right to discuss political matters. In the traditional sense of democracy, the people literally made all decisions. Now we elect representatives, but by no means does that mean we lose our right to have an opinion or freedom of speech. It is called human rights, learn about them.

[Cutlass_253]

rusty-knives wrote:

Civil union isn't the same thing as a marriage.

But if it was it would (hopefully) prevent all this arguing.

[Cutlass_253]

Regression wrote:
Democracy.

From the Greek word demos meaning people and the suffix -cracy meaning government.

Technically the US isn't a true democracy, its a republic run indirectly by democratic principles.

[rusty-knives]

musickman wrote:

here's why i support gay marriage.
say u and ur friend's names are both regular Dan. if you were working at an office, and your friend got a promotion. now he gets a raise, a new office, and everyone calls hims super Dan. well guess what? you got lucky, you got promoted too! but, as luck would have it, nobody calls you super Dan. and to make things worse, your raise wasn't as much as your friend's, even though you got the same promotion!! How unfair! all gay marriage is is a title and a piece of paper. land of the free, indeed.

+1
To add to this, though - Religion should have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW - Laws should be written to give people their basic human rights.

[rusty-knives]

Cutlass_253 wrote:

rusty-knives wrote:

Civil union isn't the same thing as a marriage.


But if it was it would (hopefully) prevent all this arguing.

But no, it wouldn't. If it was the same thing as marriage then people would have every right to protest it as it would be a religious union.

[Bunyip]

I really don't understand why people care if people marry the same sex. Its really rediculous that some people spend so much time and effort opposing somthing that doesnt really effect them in any way at all. does it make their life shorter? ah no. does it make them poorer? no, no it doesnt. Does it make someone a bad person because they want to marry someone of the same sex....guess what? the answer is no it probably makes them a better person because they are happy.

It seems to me that people that oppose gay marriage get a sense of satisfaction seeing their fellow human beings in despair. (so who is the the more riteous? the person who outlaws gay marriage because an outdated book full of story's says it shouldn't be allowed? Or the person who has found love in someone of the same sex and doesn't preach to the world that they should be doing the same thing?)

Seriously. Its a childish argument.

It should be allowed so everyone can get on with their lives.

We live in a changing world. get used to it because their aint a damn thing you can do about it. And its a short life this one we live so it's the loser that spends his limited time here dwelling on the negative.

Just my 2 cents worth

[Cutlass_253]

rusty-knives wrote:

Cutlass_253 wrote:

rusty-knives wrote:

Civil union isn't the same thing as a marriage.


But if it was it would (hopefully) prevent all this arguing.

But no, it wouldn't. If it was the same thing as marriage then people would have every right to protest it as it would be a religious union.

That's why the government should take religion out of gay marriage by calling it civil unions and entitling the same rights to married and unionized couples.

[g00fy_130]

In the words of Frank Zappa, "Shut up and play your guitar!"

[Ricky4635]

I'm straight as can be but, I think homosexauls should be able to marry. I don't see why they shouldn't be able.

[kaosfire]

srvkicks, the problem is they DONT have the same rights when it comes to things like property and visitation rights, adoption, etc etc.

[Your41Plague12]

Jazzcore23 wrote:

I get a little sick of people freaking out about simple things like a person expressing their feelings.

Hypocritical, much? Seriously. Let Slash express his views just as you wish to express yours over the internet.

[Mobes52]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law



You can't just go changing definitions!

Hmmmm... Actually, just a few years ago, the Bush Administration changed the definition of torture to
"must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death"

So, your wrong. If the U.S changed that definition, I'm sure they can change the definition of marriage.

[Lemoninfluence]

checked

[iloveashley]

I dont see why everyone makes such a big deal out of this. Slash is a person just like you and me and feels a need to express what he thinks. Just because he makes more money than I ever will and he is a musician doesnt meant he doesnt deserve a right to an opinion.

[JB2500]

watch the video peole, slsah never says a word

[srvkicks@$$]

im pretty sure the gays are going to win though its inevitable

[hard_rock101]

is it just me or is it become almost sterotypical for rockstar's wives to have huge tits?

[danos1204]

You are forgetting the Bush administration was S***, but that's a whole other can of worms. Listen, I live with two gay people and I am around gay people a lot when they have friends over and parties and such. I have talked this issue over countless amounts of times till I was blue in the face. Bottom line: Civil Unions are fine between gay people, marriage is not. I don't give a s*** whether you are religious or not, this country was formed under the ideals of the Christian church and marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

[axl-is-awesome]

oh my god im far from gay but this is a free country and what part of free means you cant marry who you want.slash was just like everyone of us while we are growing up...no friends hardly...love for music,and just because hes had success in life he gets crap for it..he has the right to an opinion(there goes that freedom again,shame on me)but seriously why not have every right possible if we can if its not hurting you.maybe you'll wake up one day gay.maybe not but still.it'd be one thing if you had to pay for the gay couples marriage but you dont. most straight people shouldnt have say in if someone gets married.alright an example,dee snider,i dont like him personally but he stood up for metal,he stood up to the man for something they said was wrong,and obviously if your on here you appreciate rock music.some people are so close minded its surprising.ok what if a gay person came up to you and said he was against straight marriage?it'd be a little different but the same situation.....

[R3ACH_69]

wow.....thats just stupid! California spoke already! the people stated what they wanted so just because most of California just isnt ok with the idea of Gay marriage yet dont get all butt hurt! (hahahaha thats a pun for those retards who didnt catch it!) seriously just drop and wait another for years. you fags have domestic partnerships! its the same damn thing w/o the title of "marriage"

[carlsbad]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Agreed.

[Ali-b912]

danos1204 wrote:

I don't give a s*** whether you are religious or not, this country was formed under the ideals of the Christian church and marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

who gives a shit. not everyone in america is a devout christian. thats like saying "the world was started by jews, therefore the jews should own it all" based on the theory that adam and eve were jewish.

[Banana King]

Hahahaha

"domestic partnership" is just a politically correct way to say "separate but equal".

[guitargodwannab]

im not a gay, but why the **** cant gays and lesbians get married as well???

screw prop 8 guys

oh and go slash and all other celebs that wanna protest prop 8

[malashea_GTRST]

pfft. ive only been saying no on 8 since it came up as a prop here..glad i got to vote and protest it

[MDoggDX316]

vIsIbleNoIsE wrote:

everyone needs to calm down. cuz at this point i think the best course of action would be to abolish marriage as a ceremony completely.

under my judicious reign, marriage will be embodied in a legal document. go have a party afterward if you like.

Vote for this man.

[zayG]

danos1204 wrote:

You are forgetting the Bush administration was S***, but that's a whole other can of worms. Listen, I live with two gay people and I am around gay people a lot when they have friends over and parties and such. I have talked this issue over countless amounts of times till I was blue in the face. Bottom line: Civil Unions are fine between gay people, marriage is not. I don't give a s*** whether you are religious or not, this country was formed under the ideals of the Christian church and marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

too bad it wasn't formed under the ideals of the Christian church and it is people like you who ruin this great country.

[joshua029]

zayG wrote:
too bad it wasn't formed under the ideals of the Christian church and it is people like you who ruin this great country.

but our country was formed with GOD in mind. settlers came here for religious freedom from the monarchy in hopes of allowing their Christian faith to grow. you should pick up a history book sometime dude...

[joshua029]

to zayG:

and its the people like you who have no idea what they're talking about that ruin this country...

[ldl67]

Cutlass_253 wrote:

ldl67 wrote:

Marriage predates modern religion, which redefined marriage as being between a man and a woman. This argument of gay marriage redefining the term is just stupid.

Well modern religion predates our government. By your logic that gives them more control over it than the government.

Don't be ignorant. We're talking about the present here, and the modern day definitions (plural) of marriage.

And for the people that say marriage isn't sacred, that's one view of people that isn't supported by everybody. I still believe marriage is sacred, and when and if I get married it will be to the person I am fully prepared to spend the rest of my life with.

Marriage isn't "not sacred" because people get divorced. People get divorced (and married sometimes) because they forget that marriage is supposed to be sacred. Marriage is still far from a purely legal prospect.

Don't get me wrong though, I think homosexuals deserve all the same rights as heterosexuals. But there's a lot of flawed logic here, and its coming from both sides.

I was using it as an argument against those saying gay marriage redefines the term marriage (which I'm not even sure why that matters to people in the first place).

[lawlibgtr]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

yea, actually you can.

Humans made that definition. A human being put that definition into the dictionary. Not "God," not "Allah." A human. If a person did it, a person can change it. There is no such thing as any rule being set in stone. Humanity (which is ****ing stupid and beyond ****ed up as it is) created all these goddamn rules, they are not the be-all end-all. If you consider yourself a person of any faith whatsoever you would understand that.

danos1204 wrote:

You are forgetting the Bush administration was S***, but that's a whole other can of worms. Listen, I live with two gay people and I am around gay people a lot when they have friends over and parties and such. I have talked this issue over countless amounts of times till I was blue in the face. Bottom line: Civil Unions are fine between gay people, marriage is not. I don't give a s*** whether you are religious or not, this country was formed under the ideals of the Christian church and marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

The country was not founded on the ideals of the Christian Church. And, who says marriage is a union between a man and a woman? People do. And people are wrong. Fallible beings. God does not come to you in dreams and tell you that gays and lesbians should not be allowed to marry. You take it upon yourself to hold such a ****ing retarded opinion. Why do you care if they get married? You're not gay? Then don't ****ing get married to a man. But someone who is gay SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO. At least, in any real country that actually considers itself a free and equal country.

[slayer666z]

How many people here are against prop.8 that are Christian?
It says in the Bible and in the dictionary that is marriage is between a man and a women.

Also I dont want my kids to go on field trip and watch gay people get married or learn it school thats just against the foundation of this country.

[gwitersnamps]

I'm STRONGLY against Prop 8. And I'm CATHOLIC.

The bible ALSO says that if you work on a sunday you get your hands chopped off, and the official definition of "traditional" marriage is the wife a slave to the husband. I'm not making that up.

Freedom is the foundation of this country. Taking away rights for no good reason was the foundation of the 3rd Reich.

Props to Slash.

[waveningkan]

stop the bashing on the gay topic.this is a guitar site for Christ's sake.what gtar was he playin on?was it juz simple star spangled banner?or hendrix-esque?hehe.

[(sic)kid]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

All this coming from a person who resides in the country that basically created liberalism. Ironic. And how would John Petrucci not have a right to support anti-gay legislation? As far as I know, he does. Concerning your comments about "Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man", where the hell do you get this idea? The guy's already married. Damm you're not smart at all.

[gwitersnamps]

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise.

That would be a good argument. Except a whole bunch of straight people just banned it, so I'd say all bets are off.

[Gormanilius]

Slash, I have so much more respect for you right now. You are speaking your mind. That those who love another should be allowed to get married, just like any other couple.
Id hate to say it, but those who came up with prop 8 just call it "defending marriage" because they obviosly cant say they hate homosexuals. Although I met one girl, who sadly enough wanted horrible things done to homosexuals.
When I asked her why she felt that way....she replied it is an abomination.
Is that hate still strong amoung us?
....A couple decades ago many had that same hatred of blacks marrying white people.
Problem solved.
Can we fix yet another civil rights issue America?

[darkfire_storm]

wouldn't this have been more relevant about 2 or 3 weeks ago?

[MasterExploder0]

sthall wrote:

Gay rights are fine, but I can't stand the "Say no to Hate..." slogan that has become common. People vote against gay rights because they have different moral views and perspectives. To say that it is an act of hate is a misnomer; Those against gay rights have the equal right to voice their displeasure as those for gay rights do. It's not hate, its opinion.

Holy shit! It's common sense!
Even though I don't agree with them I could care less about Slash's political or social views, he has an opinion and the right to voice it and that's not going to effect the fact that he is my favorite guitarist.

[fenderlover99]

didnt UG realize by posting this, they were going to get a million f***ing comments on here

[hendris]

xXChimairaXx wrote:

People say that straight people are stupid for stopping gays from marrying, but its the homosexuals that are being ridiculous. Marriage is and always has been a religious union (whether you're religious or not), and every religion in the world shuns homosexuality and deems it wrong, yet they still want to get married. Why can't they make up their own special union and leave marriage to the straight people? Call it life partners or something. Why would they want to be the same as straight married couples when they are always fighting for gay rights and proving how different they are from everyone else? Just a thought.

So basically what your saying is that we should all have rights based on our differences. So basically we should be separated based on the color of our skin and have different rights. Oh wait. The United States already ruled that unfair and it is now illegal. And for those of you who say skin color is different from preference well it's not really that different. Both are genetic traits. That's right. It's not a choice. Its like being born with a certain skin color. And if you're wondering who proved this well scientists did...people who have more expertise than anyone here. So really this movement is just like the civil rights and women's rights movements. Just another group struggling against ignorant America. And twenty years from now kids are going to be getting taught about how dumb America was. Once again. And as for the whole religion argument...I'm not sure when people started deciding what God's stand on social issues was. Because only God can decide what God believes. And for all of you that say that it's in the bible well God didn't write the bible either. People did.
Oh. And by the way...I'm straight too. And saying that heterosexual people can't be concerned about gay rights is like saying white people can't be concerned about civil rights.

[manmanster]

metalness11 wrote:

this is a little late isnt it?

is no one acknowledging that?

The legislature's been passed. Get awareness in the populace when the bill's run its course. Right now its pointless to riot.

May as well riot that Obama's president. Makes about as much difference.

[PleasantStreets]

I think it's brave of Slash to speak out about this issue. Proposition 8 is suchhhh an illegal document. For people who are against gay marriage, what are your reasons besides the bible or pure hatred?

[Viking_Swede666]

good for Slash

It's nice to see someone who doesn't have their head up their own ass

seriously, gays should have the same rights as anyone, cause prop 8 is discrimination any way you slice it.

kudos to you Slash.

[pearlJam_31490]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

OK i completely disagree with all of this expect when celebrities make a video about voting i ****en hate that and think its stupid. Dont even try to say that it is the same thing because its not! Celebrities try toget u to vote yet they dont (In most cases *P-Diddy* or *Paris Hilton*) Know shit about poltics so thats dumb. On the other hand Slash is standing up for equal rights which is a totally different topic. U dont have to no anything about equal rights if u just read into the word and make shit happen.

[pearlJam_31490]

Sorry for the double post but when u try to tell me that they disagree with gay marriage or equal rights because of whats in the bible all i have to say for u is that there are 4000 different religion's out their which means that ATLEAST 3999 of them are wrong.

[Jondy]

poor slash. look at the **** his woman is dragging him into. all the man wanted to do was play guitar.

[aig91]

Check'd

[ozzrhoads1982]

now for the dude from england, wats wrong with slash expressing his view on gay marriage? does he have no right to speak about this issue just cuz hes not gay and it doesnt quite affect him? and i gotta say,his timing was a bit off(no disrespect). had he made this a few weeks ago, maybe he couldve helped changed some ppl's views on gay marriage. and why are ppl freaking out when gays get the right to marry(this should already be a given right, not one to be argued in a ****in ballot) if it's not going to affect "tarditional" marriage?

[GoingNumb]

I think the sad part is, if Slash didn't support gay marriage and outwardly spoke about it, most of you will all say f you.

to me, this is an unwinnable fight. the people opposed to gay marriage will continue to fight, and those in support will continue to fight. If Prop 8 didn't get passed, you would see people out there (yes, including celebs) protesting. I think it's it'll continue to be a fustrating and aggrivating debate on both sides.

for me, i hate prejustice. I think equality is important, BUT, i don't think this is a good thing. I think the only argument that i can bring this this debate against gay marriage is this. It's not the EQUAL part that i'm against, its' simply the moral issue. It's still hard for me to witness gay people, despite the fact i'm friends with gay people. It's hard for me to know that more and more gay couples are outwardly coming out and exposing themselves. I think the whole gay thing has changed. I remember that gay people stuck to themselves and weren't so open, not only that, but gay people...really didn't look all that gay. But now with more openess, it's become a trend, even for people who AREN'T gay, to BE gay. I think we will see a more sexual openess among people if we pass this prop 8, no matter how much you disagree. I think there should be a line crossed, once we open more and more doors open, more we will allow, and sometimes, that's not a good thing.

you don't have to agree with me, that's my opinion, like slashes, and even though i do hate when celebs and musicians push their views on others (knowing that some of them WILL listen due to being a fan or being obsessed). BUT they do have the right, as americans, we do have the right...

...which reminds me, we all had a right to vote, so if you all hate prop 8 so much, why didn't you vote no? better yet, didn't americans vote yes? and passed? it's spoken, i think most people are just mad and jumping on bandwagons to support. where does it stop?

like i said, no matter which side you're on (i know it sounds pathetic but that's the way it is) you're going to keep arguing for a long time. Until someone gives up, but this issue will continue to linger for a long time.

I think what does bother me on here is the shure hatred with one another. EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION AND A RIGHT TO SPEAK -- INCLUDING SLASH. the flaming on here is harsh. be brothers and sisters guys. geez.

ok, let the flaming begin with me. I just know it's coming.

[ozzrhoads1982]

my bad, i meant "traditional"

[vash_08]

God, hasn't anyone learned? Politics + Internet = BAD

[Chasing-Hiway83]

i mean,does everyone hate Republicans and Christians?....we're not bigots, that's a harsh stereotyping.....

[rock4dummies]

it's really ironic America's the first country to declare all men as equal and it has the most bigoted and discriminating history. It's good for Slash to say what he wants and not worry about what fans and other people think like some people in this discussion >.>

[ens.guitar]

read this whole blog and still havnt read a decent argument against gay marrige. You americans are really fitting your sterotypes of ignorant *******s. the whole world laughs at you

[KY_Rocker]

xXChimairaXx wrote:

People say that straight people are stupid for stopping gays from marrying, but its the homosexuals that are being ridiculous. Marriage is and always has been a religious union

Actually for a long time marriage was a political institution used to unite Royal families, gain money in feudal systems, etc...and as for it being a religious thing, the two biggest religions out there are Christianity and Islam....maybe Hinduism, I'm not sure...but marriage was around long before either of them...and when it comes down to it, the majority, although not all, of those opposed to gay marriage is based off the Bible...which doesn't even begin to bring up the issue of separation of church and state...Many gays are religious and would like that bond with God, too, so it's not just about the rights for all of them...most of them would be more than glad to just get a civil union, at least the ones I know, but it's more they just want to be acknowledged as being equal than it is about marriage itself.
But, props for your idea bout a separate union for them, at least you're thinking progressively instead of just a "screw gays" approach. One of the more intelligent posts.

[nick_b]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

dude. he's speaking out for gay marriage. just get the **** over it. also, unless you know something that the rest of the world doesnt, slash has never stood against gay marriage. so therefore it isnt hypocrisy. check your dictionary and shut the **** up

[BucketheadRules]

Bamitchell wrote:

BucketheadRules wrote:

traceo wrote:
This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

No it isn't yeah it is. The same as saying someone is evil for being for gay marriage is bull. It works both ways.

No it isn't. legislating who can and can't get married because of who they are or what they like is just as inherently evil as legislating the definition of marriage based on skin color or ethnicity.

40 years ago, in several states, a black man couldn't marry a white woman because she was white and he was black. now that same black man couldn't marry a white man because they're both men.
tell me one thing now: where's the difference?

[kornflipsk8er]

40 years ago, in several states, a black man couldn't marry a white woman because she was white and he was black. now that same black man couldn't marry a white man because they're both men.
tell me one thing now: where's the difference?

what he said....

[TheChaz]

BucketheadRules wrote:

Bamitchell wrote:

BucketheadRules wrote:

traceo wrote:
This notion that opposing gay marriage makes you evil and a terrible person is a total load of bullshit.

No it isn't yeah it is. The same as saying someone is evil for being for gay marriage is bull. It works both ways.


No it isn't. legislating who can and can't get married because of who they are or what they like is just as inherently evil as legislating the definition of marriage based on skin color or ethnicity.

40 years ago, in several states, a black man couldn't marry a white woman because she was white and he was black. now that same black man couldn't marry a white man because they're both men.
tell me one thing now: where's the difference?

How many times have you heard of a black man coming out to his family that he is black. Being gay is choice being black isn't. There's the difference.

[RequiemofDemons]

I reaaallly don't see what the big deal is here honestly. Sure I can get if your crazy hardcore into religion then ya..oh my word they are going against whoever the hell your god is..but seriously..how does this affect you? Why is it such a big thing.So gays got married. Do you get less pay in your job now? Is waking up in the morning all of a sudden painfull? Do thousands of very sharp needles rain down from the sky every 5 minutes impailing you..no... The whole world isnt going to fall appart. Just because gays got married doesnt mean "hey! Gays got married! I guess it's alright to drop all morals I once had and destroy society forever!". Nothing happens but a happy married gay couple. And to whoever sais you can't just change the definition..why not? we have been changing definitions on words for centuries. And another thing. There are a few religions out there who don't have a thing against gay relationships to whoever put that point out there as well. Research into Samoa or other cultures of the same type.In some cases gay or bisexual men have more rights than the heterosexual male such as being able to visit a women in her house alone (straight men aren't allowed)..as well as studies showing that the homosexual( I'm using this term for lack of a better word)males takes care of children just as good if not better than the women in the towns/villages. Since I'm not a celebrity nore am I trying to change any one's views on anything I should be able to simply state my oppinion on the matter). Gay marriage will probably be passed sooner or later and become legal mostly world wide. It's only a matter of time waiting for the generation opposing it to simply die out. Those who are fighting for equal rights for them will most likely far outweigh those opposing it. Now for the reason I believe this. (I am against the government so don't think they have any influence on my oppinion.) Is that religion over the centuries is slowly losing it's power on peoples free will. It wasn't too long ago that even the best self proclaimed christian would have gone out lynching colored people and still calling themselves a good person. But then along came people who had better Ideas for a better way of life. And after years of protesting we are finally seeing a change "for the better I may add". And that now the self proclaimed Christians (the new generation) would be completly appauled at the idea of killing a man simply because he is black. (at least I hope so or I shake my head at that religion). And just to add a small thought in there for the people who believe it's against their religion so they should fight it. Remeber that it was because of people who fight for equal rights that most religions were allowed to be practiced amongst the masses freely. Besides, I was taught god loves all his children.. except homosexuals? Doesn't that seem a little contradictory? But beyond that fact and more to the end of this oppinion is one last statement. History has shown over and over again that if people want change bad enough (note I said "change", not "to keep things the same") then it will eventually happen. It's the way society in general runs. (Society, not the Government or Religion) So over all, just sit back and welcome change? Besides. Who's it going to hurt?

(if you quote me condradicting my oppinion I will reply back, not to try and change your mind, just to try and support my own theory)

[DamagedWill]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

Ever wanted to know the definition of apathy?

[DamagedWill]

TheChaz wrote:
How many times have you heard of a black man coming out to his family that he is black. Being gay is choice being black isn't. There's the difference.

You are wrong. Plain and simple. Being gay isn't a choice. "Yeah, I'll be gay so I can get an ungodly amount of shit from people like you and ignorant *******s for the rest of my life."

What if you someone came up to you, and said you loving your wife was wrong and that you were going to Hell for it. Would you stop loving your wife? Of course you wouldn't. Try putting yourself in other people's shoes for a change.

[headcaver]

Did he make the video with his wife so we didnt conclude he was gay? .."hold my hand through this honey"

[Andy2k64]

I don't understand why straight people can live in an empty shell marriage yet a gay couple who love each other can't marry...I don't get it

[tonedeafidiot]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

Obvious republican and bigot...

That's awesome that Slash, even with all his money and success, can see fairness and equality as it should be...

What are you talking about? He's saying that he's sick of Slash mouthing off about everything under the sun and so am I.

[flea878]

I love how people are referencing the religious sanctity of marriage. In a country where a fat guy dressed as Elvis can marry two people in Vegas, where people marry for citizenship, or because the couple had an unplanned pregnancy, some people are still trying to maintain that it is only a deep religious marriage between two people and God. Its a nice thought, but unrealistic, and if gay people want to marry, why not? Who is it harming?

[Mihyaeru]

jefffelker40 :
I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

So musicians arnt allowed to give their opinions on the world...surely they ave the same right to express their beleifs as everyone else?

[dutch5367]

I agree with him fully. If two people are in love they should have the right to get married whether it's a man and a woman or two men or two women.

[ReaperWaits]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

So just because he's a musician, he's not aloud an opinion? You're a ****ing tool.

[Mahoru]

dutch5367 wrote:

I agree with him fully. If two people are in love they should have the right to get married whether it's a man and a woman or two men or two women.

+1

There's something called declaration of human rights. Just notice it's not called declaration of heterosexual human rights So by violating it, those people re acting against one the most basic human rights, which is the right to choose your life and love whoever you want. But again, religion itself is against them, so it's not surprising seeing so many people against gay marriage here. It's a shame

[Death-Speak]

Then again the majority of California supports the ban, and it passed. They're not you can't have a same sex partner or be married, just not in that state.

[Ir8sob]

Phe4rTheGod wrote:

Let him marry his horse, problem solved...

And comparing horses to gays doesn't really fit the scheme here...marriage is between two people, regardless the gender...

if we are redefining marriage why does it have to just be two people. What will stop someone from saying that if a dude can marry another dude, why can't I legally marry three women or more. That will happen by the way. the gay community wanted prop 8 on the ballot because they thought it would pass, now that the people of California decided not to change their constitution, the gay community want to use the courts to impose their will on the people anyway.

[crackhutch]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

Uhhh...I'm pretty sure the dictionary has been changed over and over again. Look at additions to definitions, additions to words all together. Hell they're about to add 'meh' to the dictionary and they've added 'ain't' a while ago.

[Lemoninfluence]

checked.

[Axl_Explosion]

It kills me how the whole the entire concept of VOTING anymore is just non-existant. I mean, isn't the entire reason we vote in the first place to give people a say in what happens with everything? So prop 8 goes to the vote, and the people spoke, and they said that they didn't want gay marriage to be legal, so that should have been that, right? WRONG! Nope. Not over yet. The people who lost rioted and went crazy.

You know what, life doesn't work that way. You don't ALWAYS win. And instead of just stepping back and thinking about where to go from here, the losing group protests the decision made and it's not ok what the people voted on. It's not like there was a gun held to anyone's head so that they voted to ban gay marriage, it was a free choice and they chose to say no, that's not ok. So that should be that. I didn't want Obama to win, but he won. Instead of bitching about it everyday, I moved on. I don't like Nirvana, I don't like Cobain, but the majority of people do, so guess what. Nirvana is on the radio. It's the majority rule...that's what Democracy is. It's freedom to make the choices you want to make.

[sergeantfrog]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

marriage (n): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

You can't just go changing definitions!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice - I have several gay friends, I don't have any problem with gay people whatsoever. However, marriage is the unity of a MAN and a WOMAN, you can't just go ****ing around with stuff like that...

That's why gay marriage is actually called "Civil Partnership. Technically it's not marriage but it amounts to the same thing.

[RecruitX]

I am a republican and im really starting to get irritated with this forum. social issues are barely politics. they are like 6 of the thousands of things that politics cover. and i am not a bigot for being republican. my opinion is this. marriage doesnt count to me period. wether your gay or straight i dont think marriage should be reconized my government. its a church decision not government. thats why we have seperation of church and state. the government should view ALL marriage as civil union whether gay or straight and not reconize a diffrence. PERIOD! the pope or your pastor can decide everything to do with marriage but it is not the place of our government.

[MoroneSaxatilis]

This country is on the verge of economic collapse. I'm pretty sure there are more important things to talk about. It got voted on, it passed. End of story. Someone should really be asking how the gov't managed to get 750 B in bailout money from us in a matter of weeks, yet anything else takes years to accomplish. No one is changing their vote because of Slash. We are all going bankrupt- my suggestion; stock up on canned food, the downward spiral has begun.

[MoroneSaxatilis]

Furthermore, there are still states with sodomy laws in place. How is marriage an issue when these laws are still in place?
How can this topic be so important when we have the whole country going bankrupt?
I am not against gay marriage but seriously, wake up and recognize what place the country's in right now.

[gibson4ver]

good for you slash. and who says you cant play music about this shit. love has been a huge topic for music and thats what this is all about right? im not gay but lets face it yall there has been gay people since ancient greece and there will continue to be gay people till the end of time so why not allow them to enjoy the pursuit of happiness like the rest of us free Americans.

[rdwarn]

PenFighter19 wrote:

I suppose you disapprove of Civil Rights as well. This is America. Denying someone their rights is wrong.
Florida Constitutional Amendment 2 (passed along with Proposition 8) as presented on Florida election ballots states: "...defining marriage as a between a man and a woman, and no other relationship shall be given similar rights."
This includes much more than gay marriage. Are you really against giving someone their rights? If you support Amendment 2 and Proposition 8, then yes, you are. Its open discrimination. And in the media eye, yes, evil.

Hahaha..."in the media eye, yes, evil". You rely on the media to tell you what is "good" and "evil". After this election season, how anyone who has any shred of independant thought can look to the American media and believe a word that they say or write is beyond me. I don't care what side of the election you were on, it was painfully obvious that objectivity in journalism was thrown out the window.

By the way, I agree with you except you are too narrow minded in only considering homosexuals...how dare we here in America deny our fellow Americans their rights to marry...say their pet dog, cat, horse, etc... How can we possibly call ourselves a tolerant society?

[rdwarn]

...And by the way for all you nut-heads who just can't understand why California would ban gay marriage, then allow it, then band it. The people of California voted to ban gay marriage in a previous election, then judicial activists said "screw democracy" and made gay marriage legal. Now, yet again, the people of California have voted to ban gay marriage.

I don't care what side of the issue you are on...when WE the PEOPLE vote the vote should be respected...its called a democracy. People are free to protest and Slash is entitled to his opinion, however, judicial activism is something that should never happen and basically removes power from the people.

[gringo4573]

rdwarn wrote:

Hahaha..."in the media eye, yes, evil". You rely on the media to tell you what is "good" and "evil". After this election season, how anyone who has any shred of independant thought can look to the American media and believe a word that they say or write is beyond me. I don't care what side of the election you were on, it was painfully obvious that objectivity in journalism was thrown out the window.

By the way, I agree with you except you are too narrow minded in only considering homosexuals...how dare we here in America deny our fellow Americans their rights to marry...say their pet dog, cat, horse, etc... How can we possibly call ourselves a tolerant society?

im bein discriminated against cuz i cant marry my dog...i love him!!!!!


ppl dont marry just because they love the other person, it's all the stuff that goes with it-like joint financial custody or w/e u call it. Marriage came from religion thousands of years ago, so if that religion is against gays and gay marriage, y would they support it. its like bein a jew and having a ban on kids getting circumsized. it goes against their religion.

[gringo4573]

i hope they dont unban gay marriage here in california.

[gibson0809]

i think slash is right to give an opinion. just because someone is famous doesnt mean that they cant voice their opinion. they just have a better means to do so.

[lzrdsixsix6]

jefffelker40 wrote:

I hate it when musicians try and force their views on people, Slash has proven to me over the course of 2 months what an idiot and a hypocrite he is, I for one wish he would just shut up.

i for one wish you would blow me *******

[Deadrocker93]

Stop calling Republicans bigots... Just because one Republican is acting like a jackass doesn't mean the whole Party is, dumbass. Besides, Gay Marriage isn't right. Marriage means the union of a man and a woman. They deserve the same rights as married people, just not the right to call it a marriage. Why would they even want to call it Marriage? Marriage was invented by a Religion that thinks Homosexuality is Evil.

[Deadrocker93]

good for you slash. and who says you cant play music about this shit. love has been a huge topic for music and thats what this is all about right? im not gay but lets face it yall there has been gay people since ancient greece and there will continue to be gay people till the end of time so why not allow them to enjoy the pursuit of happiness like the rest of us free Americans.

Dude, where the hell do you get this shit? Gay people since Ancient Greece? Dude, Greeks worshipped Zeus, the god of Womanizers... Besides, the Government needs to stay out of it all together. I don't support gay marriage but it's the business of Religion, we need to worry more about the idiot Obama screwing the country over, not who is getting into the same sex's pants.

[anarchy_riot09]

haha freedom of speech, gotta love it, Slash has a right to say go gay marriage just as we have the right to respond to this, whether its for it or against it, tahts why they set up a comment box...jeeze la weeze!
anywho my opinion is good for slash, i thinks its great he's for that, gays have a right to complete and make final of their feelings for their better half just like strait people.
and on the whole musicians spreading their views on causes, i think its a great idea, specially when it comes to health issues like kids with cancer or autism and such...it just helps those people that much more.
and my opinion to that is **** all you people who think otherwise, but once again, thats just my opinion =D

[slash=king]

Prince of Rinse wrote:

I'm from England so you can't brand me as a Republican (well you could, but you would be ****ing stupid to as I stayed up until 5am just to watch Obama beat McCain), but I agree with the guy that posted first. Musicians shouldn't be doing this, it goes both ways. If John Petrucci released a video with his wife about how you should support anti-gay marriage, everyone would say "**** you, you prick" because he was supporting something that he has no right to.

I wasn't aware that Slash was a man who wanted to marry another man, maybe he should stay the hell out of this? Seriously, celebrities should have no say unless it affects them otherwise. I agree with gay people marrying, it's cool, I just disagree with either sides of the arguement using celebrities to try and look cool. It's like celebrities making videos to make people vote.

yes but they wouldn't be saying **** you because he was voicing his oppinion they'd be saying it because he would be being an *******, people can say what they want when they want, people who stand for what most people think is right, eg equality in this instance, will get supported, people who don't won't

also i completely agree with anarchy_riot09

[Scorge]

i thought the country's policy was to not mix government and religion. i believe that government shouldn't have a say whether or not gay people can marry, because marriage is part of religion and it is only up to the church whether or not they will allow gays to marry. that being said, i think gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, and i think this is something that shouldn't be voted on. but i do believe they can take up a civil union. its just not fair to change a tradition that's been in place for thousands of years just because one group wants equality. we would have to change it for all the groups if we do that. what kind of message are we sending our kids with this crap?

[Upon_Belail]

haha ya know whats funny you can call it gay marriage but they won't be able to pass on their gene pool like normal hetero couple. Oh yes and just while we're on the topic you aren't born gay it most definiately is a choice perhaps sometimes not a concious maybe subconcious choice but don't you ****ing even trying and sell be this bullshit that they were born that, because then their homosexuality would die with them ****in a.

[Upon_Belail]

and just one more thing. Yes gays are still human beings they are people so they should all the right any single other human being would hafve except for marriage im sorry but gay marriage is NOT marriage. Its bullshit if it really makes them fell better i guess but this is one right they should not be given, since when does marriage entail man and man or women and women? i reliaze im rambling a bit but when these gays and other people like slash, ellen dedouchebag i dont give a flying **** who it is whine and bitch that the governemnt isn't giving gays the rights they deserve they are ignorant and look just a little naive in my eye.The end result of a marriage is to have children(don't say im just say im just some right winged conservative because then your ignorance would truely become transparent)how could the human race survive if we were all gay? We couldn't we would be ****ed and dying out within a generation.Gays cannot reproduce with the same sex of their preference, therefore no children means no marriage. Anyone stating otherwise is just plain ignorant, flame me but i can tell you that every word ive said is the truth.

[Smithsc]

screw those gays! damn its such a ridiculous topic.