Slipknot: 'Our Music Doesn't Encourage Kids To Self Harm'

Slipknot frontman Corey Taylor has hit out suggestions the band's music encourages children to self harm.

The band previously come under fire over the dark imagery in some of their song lyrics, but Taylor insists the tracks do not influence impressionable youngsters.

And he understands why angst-ridden teenagers feel depressed - he suffered the same problems in his youth.

Taylor says, "If you're setting out to hurt yourself, it's not the music that's causing it. There's something else wrong. We get a lot of kids that cut themselves but I go out of my way to try and stop it.

"It may feel artistic to carve our names in your arm but to us, it's just hurting yourself. As bleak as Slipknot can be, it's supposed to be positive in the long term and the last thing we want is for anyone to hurt themselves.

"I used to be one of those kids and I always try to explain to them that I know what it's like to feel like you're the last person on Earth. All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there."

Thanks for the report to Gigwise.com.

Comments

[AaronianKenrod]

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

[The_String_Man]

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

[SmackThis707]

i agree with both posters above me

[death eater]

AaronianKenrod wrote:

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

I say Kudos to that

[jamie_hough]

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

[isabiggles]

Yeah sure you don't...

Pfft they make thousands selling self-harm to kids to make their ginies tickle (or is that something else?)

[Draconey]

Stupid people and blaming music for hurting them. Music makes culture, culture makes collective decisions. So what SlipKnoT sung some violent verses? That is nothing.

But I like Corey's opinion on this, understanding is the first step to helping.

[BlitzkriegAir]

i disagree. every time i listen to this music i want to kill myself

[iplayguitar666]

on a serious note, i know someone who is a huge fan of them, impressionable high school kid... oh and guess what? he tried to kill himself

[xcrunner1]

That's no excuse Slipknot

[iplayguitar666]

radiohead's music is way more depressing than slipknot, but its depressing in a different way, OK computer was about how big city life can basically make you dead inside, it was thoughtful and deep.. however "i push my finger into my eyes, its the only way to stop the pain" or whatever slipknot sings is just droll and lame. it is basically glorifying self infliction

[iplayguitar666]

i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

[ChucklesMginty]

Kid's are too impressionable, and any kind of media based on a bleaker more heavy going topic can cause them to make stupid decisions.

When you listen to it on your own, you're in a bad mood you can end up taking some of the subject matter WAY more serious than the band do.

[Nothingface]

What about people that self harm that DON'T lsiten to slipknot/Metal. What do they blame it on then?

Or are these instances overlooked?

Slipknot/Metal is an easy target.

[PLOP]

Without being cheesy, Slipknot ACTUALLY gives me hope, when all hope is gone.

[iplayguitar666]

PLOP wrote:

Without being cheesy, Slipknot ACTUALLY gives me hope, when all hope is gone.

oh no... that was cheesy.

[captaincrunk]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

people steal to get stuff. People commit murder to kill

[kryzay311]

AaronianKenrod wrote:

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

except for that kid who held a gun to his teacher and said "hail Manson". I bet Manson eats that shit up

[maximumrocker]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

i saw that i loled

[Abhorred One]

I dislike Slipknot, but he makes a good point. Kudos to him for defending metal, today's biggest scapegoat.

[pleskoch]

U guys dont get it....dose who are fans of slipknot and whant to kill themselves dont whant to suicide beacause of slipknot... like corey said, thers something else wrong, if you whant to kill yourself for listening to a dark lyrics you'r ****ed up men.
Corey is so damn right...

[Vectrox]

PLOP wrote:

Without being cheesy, Slipknot ACTUALLY gives me hope, when all hope is gone.

Nice one!

I really want to kill myself if I hear Urban music .

[iplayguitar666]

i really just hate this band. they act like their are so dark when they are raking in millions off this crap. their basically writing lyrics that they know panders to young kids who are unpopular in high school and it drives them further into depression. you really think these guys are upset? this is their 4th album or so and they tour in big venues, their millionairs... dont take what they say seriously and stop giving them your money

[Lertz]

mastadon makes me want to kill myself

[TJ1991]

So if a Slipknot fan kills themself... who's to say it's because of them? Even if you're going to be stupid enough to attribute it to music, it could be because of other bands they like.

[WheredMyRockGo?]

I was definately out of control in my younger days(not hurting myself like that though) and because of that I was a big fan of metal. Mosh pits, general anarchy etc..I didnt listen to metal and consequently act crazy. I was already there and sought out metal because of everything it brings to the table. My two cents.

[jessejames1414]

I like this.

[Tr!g]

Eminem - Sing for the moment
"They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?
"

Dude said it first, and flame me all you want for quoting him, but its true!

[HxCida]

Tr!g wrote:

Eminem - Sing for the moment
"They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?

Dude said it first, and flame me all you want for quoting him, but its true!

No, your right. When i read the MM article about the kid shooting up his school someone quoted Eminem and both times they are exactly right.

[Nothingface]

Tr!g wrote:

Eminem - Sing for the moment
"They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?

Dude said it first, and flame me all you want for quoting him, but its true!

Its a good call, I agree

[matman1310]

I was depressed when I was a kid, and I listened to metal,played violent games, watch violent movies, and never once hurt myself,Its not the media, or the arts that cause these kids to hurt themselves, they would do it no matter what they were into, I think the arts, are saving more kids then harming them, because it gives alot of kids a release for all their anger,and depression. Besides if it was the music that made kids hurt themsleves our suicide rate would be double what it is now

[cmstrike]

That's weird, I was just watching that Judas Priest documentary about that court case for the two kids that shot themselves. And it's sad to see that this type of stuff is still going on to this day. No matter what the genre is, music is not to blame for anyone's problems. Music should help your channel your energy, not create negative energy and destructive behavior. People just don't get it.

[Andrew9]

how many musicians in metal bands have killed themselves?
and how many rock musicians have commmited suicide from depression?
artists like nick drake and elliot smith's music is just as likely to make depressed people feel trapped.

[Eazilly]

Slipknot is a kid's band. I teach and I see kids in grades 4 and 5 thinking Slipknot is so cool. Taylor may not think his music influences people but he's stupid if he thinks that wasn't what he wanted in the first place. Writing music has always been about putting forth your ideas and hoping others co-sign to it. Music can be another form of religion. We like to think that music can 'soothe the savage beast' and 'make a difference in the world' but we honestly think that someone cannot pervert a message to have it serve their purpose? C'mon Corey. I think you know exactly what you wanted people to be saying about you when you said, "Hey let's put on masks and scare the good people of our society with our shock rock." And yes. It is hard rock and not true heavy metal. Besides. Why does it take 9 guys to do the work of 3 to 5 guys?

[Eazilly]

And if your gonna blame a band, why not a better, skilled band? That's like being a guy caught stalking Janine Garofolo or a fan kills themselves over an Ernest Tubb song. I mean, have we really run out of true heroes and idols? Are we reduced to attributing our negative behaviours to a B rated band such as slipknot?

[Macabre_Turtle]

All the people mocking the irony of the Joey Jordison headline, it doesn't imply that he harmed himself to get it.

By the way, Corey
"Fix my problems with the blade
While my eyes turn from blue to gray
God, the worst thing happened to me today
But I guess I don't care anymore..." - Everything Ends, Slipknot

Doesn't make his point any less honest though.

[Eazilly]

Where were you back in the day? Were you even born?

[IROn 5L1nKY]

... this is interesting to read... I did not actually know that anybody was doing that to themselves because of a metal band...
kind of unbelievable, I would have to say, but I guess there are stranger
music is the way out of pain for me... not the cause of it... unless we're talking about writing it, which in that case... .....
I think covering a pair of jeans with the names of the bands you love in permanent ink is a much better way to show your passion.
But then again, I don't really know that I have very much room to talk, because I have the name of the one who is the soul of my world, the heart of my love, and the singular obsession of my mind, carved into both arms.....

[Macabre_Turtle]

Eazilly wrote:

Slipknot is a kid's band. I teach and I see kids in grades 4 and 5 thinking Slipknot is so cool. Taylor may not think his music influences people but he's stupid if he thinks that wasn't what he wanted in the first place. Writing music has always been about putting forth your ideas and hoping others co-sign to it. Music can be another form of religion. We like to think that music can 'soothe the savage beast' and 'make a difference in the world' but we honestly think that someone cannot pervert a message to have it serve their purpose? C'mon Corey. I think you know exactly what you wanted people to be saying about you when you said, "Hey let's put on masks and scare the good people of our society with our shock rock." And yes. It is hard rock and not true heavy metal. Besides. Why does it take 9 guys to do the work of 3 to 5 guys?

True heavy metal is a bullshit term. Stop using it. It's definitely metal, the oldschool Slipknot anyway, not like Duality and Before I Forget.
And you can hear all 9 members. It is not the work of three to five. Though this is also more particularly old school Slipknot. The extra drummers have a significant effect. The only one that can truly go away is the sampler, as the dj can surely do all his work to.

[sk8punkasgro]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

EPIC FAIL.

by the time you learn how to spell you will of gotten over your raging boner for corey from slipknot... slipknot is gateway metal, its what shithead 14 year olds listen to before they discover mastodon.

totally agree. that's what i'm tying to tell my friends who listen to gay ass slipknot.
Slipknot = Mariah Carey

[Eazilly]

She must be really special. See? Whatever happened to Romeo and Juliet? I guess in the 21st century Romeo is an androgynous, closet case homosexual, cutting emo and Juliet is a skanky, rude, bisexual covered from head to toe with tattoos.

[whoa_backoff]

If I had to listen to Slipknot I would want to hurt myself. lol

[Eazilly]

Why do you say old skool Slipknot? They're a ****in' 90's band, kids. True heavy metal is the likes of Slayer, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Pantera. You talk about this band like it's not a passing fancy and like it's been around longer than the last 12 years. You gotta lotta growing up to do son.

[Shabalaba]

Eazilly wrote:

Slipknot is a kid's band. I teach and I see kids in grades 4 and 5 thinking Slipknot is so cool. Taylor may not think his music influences people but he's stupid if he thinks that wasn't what he wanted in the first place. Writing music has always been about putting forth your ideas and hoping others co-sign to it. Music can be another form of religion. We like to think that music can 'soothe the savage beast' and 'make a difference in the world' but we honestly think that someone cannot pervert a message to have it serve their purpose? C'mon Corey. I think you know exactly what you wanted people to be saying about you when you said, "Hey let's put on masks and scare the good people of our society with our shock rock." And yes. It is hard rock and not true heavy metal. Besides. Why does it take 9 guys to do the work of 3 to 5 guys?

You should realise it isn't a 'kids' band, they attract a wide variety in fan base . Just because kids have 'OMFG SLIPKN0T!!111ELEVEN1!!' in their msn name doesn't mean it is a kids band, the masks are a gimmick yes but does it depreciate the music value? No. The extra people are noticed in earlier records but recently they aren't as heard, as previously stated by Macabre_Turtle

[Macabre_Turtle]

Eazilly wrote:

Why do you say old skool Slipknot? They're a ****in' 90's band, kids. True heavy metal is the likes of Slayer, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Pantera. You talk about this band like it's not a passing fancy and like it's been around longer than the last 12 years. You gotta lotta growing up to do son.

I say Old School Slipknot because they don't make the same music anymore. I thought it was painfully obvious what that meant. And music evolves. Arguing over what true heavy metal is just makes you an *******. And considering I've been listening to them for a good five years or so, no, they're not a passing fancy. You know who was though for me? Which bands I've downloaded, listened to, and no longer care about? Slayer, Iron Maiden and Pantera. Having an opinion has nothing to do with growing up, and you have no idea just how much irony you put into that sentence.

[Shabalaba]

Macabre_Turtle wrote:

Eazilly wrote:

Why do you say old skool Slipknot? They're a ****in' 90's band, kids. True heavy metal is the likes of Slayer, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Pantera. You talk about this band like it's not a passing fancy and like it's been around longer than the last 12 years. You gotta lotta growing up to do son.

I say Old School Slipknot because they don't make the same music anymore. I thought it was painfully obvious what that meant. And music evolves. Arguing over what true heavy metal is just makes you an *****. And considering I've been listening to them for a good five years or so, no, they're not a passing fancy. You know who was though for me? Which bands I've downloaded, listened to, and no longer care about? Slayer, Iron Maiden and Pantera. Having an opinion has nothing to do with growing up, and you have no idea just how much irony you put into that sentence.

You read my mind

[narcoticsfairy]

A lot of metal music actually stopped me from self harm in my younger days. I found sanctuary in music that seemed to know how I was feeling. Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, and Korn didn't make me want to kill myself - they made me feel not so alone. People who blame it on them need to pay more attention to their kids' needs and less attention to who's in the media.

[Fender700]

Slipknot is a kid's band. I teach and I see kids in grades 4 and 5 thinking Slipknot is so cool. Taylor may not think his music influences people but he's stupid if he thinks that wasn't what he wanted in the first place. Writing music has always been about putting forth your ideas and hoping others co-sign to it. Music can be another form of religion. We like to think that music can 'soothe the savage beast' and 'make a difference in the world' but we honestly think that someone cannot pervert a message to have it serve their purpose? C'mon Corey. I think you know exactly what you wanted people to be saying about you when you said, "Hey let's put on masks and scare the good people of our society with our shock rock." And yes. It is hard rock and not true heavy metal. Besides. Why does it take 9 guys to do the work of 3 to 5 guys?

you have a few good points. but HERE'S THE DEAL PEOPLE: First of all, slipknot is a great band, most of us can agree. and EVEN if you dont like them, you cannot deny the fact that they are on top of the nu metal/ pop metal world. Now let's all realize something...the only reason they are what they are is because of "shit head 14 year olds" who grew up into the 20 year old metal loving people that actually know other slipknot songs besides "psycosocial" and "before i forget". So anyone trying to bash them for being a kids band is a fool cause you were a kid once yourself. Finally, they DO influence people. they have one of the most dedicated fan bases i know of, so dont tell me they dont influence people. People who cut themselves are individuals with serious problems, not just corey taylor's minions of evil. COREY IS QUOTED IN REVOLVER MAG saying he would cut himself up while recording IOWA for EFFECT! yes, he suffered many serious mental problems, but people (including slipknot) shouldnt be surprised that their music and actions influence others in negative ways

[A Rhino]

I lolled at this artical and all it's posts

[SA_Chick92]

'Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood'

lmao if he spells his own name wrong

[redwolf206]

I disagree, everytime I hear Slipknot's music, it makes me want to harm myself so I don't have to hear anymore.
/lame joke

[Blind Messiah]

It seems that there are those diehard metalheads among you who seem to forget your metal lyrics and history. Judas Priest was put on trial for supposed subliminal messages causing self-harm. Ozzy faced legal problems with "Suicide Solution." This isn't Slipknot's fault. I think we can all agree Judas Priest doesn't make you suicidal (no opinions needed regarding musical preference, you're not championing the faith.) That said, why would Slipknot? The lyrical themes haven't changed, they didn't start the mask thing. You can't pin psychological problems on any one thing in someone's life, it's a mix of nature AND nurture throughout their lives.

[Metallica_AC/DC]

Slipknot(normally the people not the music) helps me with my depression, it shows me that i'm not the only one who feels like the outcast of the world. In other words, people make me feel like a leper.

[98Timberwolf]

Eazilly wrote:

Why do you say old skool Slipknot? They're a ****in' 90's band, kids. True heavy metal is the likes of Slayer, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Pantera. You talk about this band like it's not a passing fancy and like it's been around longer than the last 12 years. You gotta lotta growing up to do son.

I would agree that those bands, along with black sabbath, could be considered classic metal or something similar, but I'm not sure I would say slipknot isn't "true" heavy metal. I personally do not like slipknot and do like the "classic" metal bands, but it's all a matter of opinion.

[Blind Messiah]

I might also add that I do think that art has a powerful effect on society. For example, the Norwegian black metal scene's church burnings a few years back. But, that was confined to those who already were pissed off for whatever reasons they could have. You do realise you can be suicidal AND THEN become a Slipknot fan.

[Shadow_player]

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

[IROn 5L1nKY]

see... people like that are the ones that make those of us who struggle with pain, how we cope with it, and self mutilation a sore subject... with much unjust generalization and blind hate...

[blommen]

if we start saying that rap is causing death, then aren't we just what the criticists of metal are? ignorants who can't see the music because we are too busy with our own thing? i say stop hating on the music, for what it may or may not cause. hate on the music if it sucks... like techno

[jamie_hough]

Shadow_player wrote:

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

Dude thats is so right LOL - I wasnt quick enough to get that but your 100% right. When I heard about hte drumstick thing I had to roll my eyes - its a bit.. kinda... stupid...

[korn_dawg]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

on a serious note, i know someone who is a huge fan of them, impressionable high school kid... oh and guess what? he tried to kill himself

Relation does not necessarily mean causation.

[whaip]

'Our Music Doesn't Encourage Kids To Self Harm'

That's right, but your music encourages kids to vomit!

[Shabalaba]

Shadow_player wrote:

I WOULD RATHER LIT MY WRISTS THEN LISTEN TO THIS CRAP! SO IT DOES INTISE SELF-HARM! \m/ (^_^) \m/

Shadow_player wrote:

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

[Shabalaba]

Sorry for double post, it posted by mistake.

To my post above you go from being immature to raising a all right point. Whilst it defies logic why someone would want one of those drumsticks, it does send negative signals, but it could be any band / any genre doing that

[Left-Behind]

ok. people who say that music (slipknot) makes them want to kill themselves or hurt themselves are cowards. They try to find something like music, to blame their issues on, because they have no self-confidence to step up and face the fact they are ****ed up inside. thats what these people do, blame it on other things so they get sympathy and others have shit to deal with. GROW UP and FIX YOUR OWN SHIT. We dont want to hear about your issues. go do the right thing and get help so you can help yourself.

[Left-Behind]

Shadow_player wrote:

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

maybe you should learn whats going on inside the headline dumb ass. it was not self harming. a ****ing doctor took blood. ya, a DOCTOR. just like when you get blood tested, the DOCTOR drew blood smart ass. and really, if kids are dumb enough to go hurt themselves cause of this, or certain music, they have no life and really need mental help.

[Blind Messiah]

Left-Behind wrote:

ok. people who say that music (slipknot) makes them want to kill themselves or hurt themselves are cowards. They try to find something like music, to blame their issues on, because they have no self-confidence to step up and face the fact they are ****ed up inside. thats what these people do, blame it on other things so they get sympathy and others have shit to deal with. GROW UP and FIX YOUR OWN SHIT. We dont want to hear about your issues. go do the right thing and get help so you can help yourself.

Yea, and you're being so encouraging by saying, "go do the right thing and get help so you can help yourself," and also saying, " GROW UP and FIX YOUR OWN SHIT. We dont want to hear about your issues."

[jables23092]

Gotta love how this turned into flaming the band. I didn't like Slipknot until very recently. They are fantastic musicians — I used to talk shit on Slipknot all the time, before I actually listened to some of it. As both a guitarist and a percussionist, and an attempting vocalists, I can appreciate everything they offer. But it's like all the people that said Metallica purport violence; those people have never been to a concert, or known what it's like to be in a crowd and listening to that music. It's one of the healthiest things in life there is. And for people quoting Slipknot lyrics — listen to what Corey said: "I used to be one of those kids," so of course you're going to see it in his lyrics. There's way too much hating in music, especially metal. Real musicians recognize that at this level, it's not a musical pissing contest, it's a life and a passion, and you can appreciate every little thing different artists bring to a genre. Music is one of the best forms of therapy available, and I commend Taylor for saying he goes to lengths to reach out to people that hurt themselves. Nobody blames directors and screenwriters when they make a terribly twisted or violent movie, but for some reason music is in a realm of its own...

[Left-Behind]

sk8punkasgro wrote:

iplayguitar666 wrote:

EPIC FAIL.

by the time you learn how to spell you will of gotten over your raging boner for corey from slipknot... slipknot is gateway metal, its what shithead 14 year olds listen to before they discover mastodon.

totally agree. that's what i'm tying to tell my friends who listen to gay ass slipknot.
Slipknot = Mariah Carey

if someone made fun or your sweet little favorite band, you would flip out like Mariah Carey. and if your dumb enough to compare slipknot to her, than you really dont know music. because they are to different genres. and your so called friends you try to tell to stop listing to slipknot probably arent your friends because your a selfish douche bag who wants to be better than everyone. and really if you waste your time complaining about slipknot and hate them so much, you must not hate them that much if your willing to read a story about them and talk about them. get a life dude. and i feel bad for your "friends"

[Left-Behind]

and ya truly . . . PEOPLE=SHIT

[RUSTDOGG666]

I think Slipknot had to make an article like this because of the Manson article the other day on the shooting. I guess Slipknot needed to let everyone know this so they dont get blamed next for something stupid happening. I had a laugh out of this.

[Aleks-101]

... I push my finger into my eye !

[Paydro91]

kryzay311 wrote:
except for that kid who held a gun to his teacher and said "hail Manson". I bet Manson eats that shit up

Mansoon sucks..

slipknot shuldn't be blamed for others stupid decision...those are the ppl that need help

[zao8350]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i really just hate this band. they act like their are so dark when they are raking in millions off this crap. their basically writing lyrics that they know panders to young kids who are unpopular in high school and it drives them further into depression. you really think these guys are upset? this is their 4th album or so and they tour in big venues, their millionairs... dont take what they say seriously and stop giving them your money

you're an idiot. dont believe them because theyre successful? theyre exactly right. just bc a band has made money doesnt mean they become selfcentered pricks and dont care about anything. i dont care who you are, no matter how rich and famous you are kids screwing themselves up in your name has to get to you, or make you fell more powerful if youre twisted like that.

[systemfreak70]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

PLOP wrote:

Without being cheesy, Slipknot ACTUALLY gives me hope, when all hope is gone.

oh no... that was cheesy.

LMAO +1

[systemfreak70]

but anyway this is all a bunch of BS those of you who think that the music is contributing to suicides and cutting thats your own oppinion but think of it this way these cutters go around sayin oh i listen to slipknot im a hardass i cut myself **** the system really are soft as hell personally slipknot is the least of our worries when it comes to suicides look more to bands like slayer pantera and other real death metal bands thats where the real problem lies

[systemfreak70]

zao8350 wrote:

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i really just hate this band. they act like their are so dark when they are raking in millions off this crap. their basically writing lyrics that they know panders to young kids who are unpopular in high school and it drives them further into depression. you really think these guys are upset? this is their 4th album or so and they tour in big venues, their millionairs... dont take what they say seriously and stop giving them your money

you're an idiot. dont believe them because theyre successful? theyre exactly right. just bc a band has made money doesnt mean they become selfcentered pricks and dont care about anything. i dont care who you are, no matter how rich and famous you are kids screwing themselves up in your name has to get to you, or make you fell more powerful if youre twisted like that.

a big plus one to that bro but i stil think SK is kinda soft compared to other bands in the metal genre

[GuitarShredder+]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

If you read the article it's now like he cut his wrists and wrote his name on there... He got blood taken out and mixed with the permanent ink they use on the drumsticks; it's not self-inflicted pain at all.

[GuitarShredder+]

I meant "not" in the first sentence, not "now"
ma bad

[Force Reaver]

Slipknot is full of shit. You cant go around telling kids not to hurt themselves and then have your drummer releasing a line of drum sticks that is signed with his own blood
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_new s/slipknots_joey_jordison_sells_drum_sticks_signed_with_his_ own_blood.html

[lotsofbandrock]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

radiohead's music is way more depressing than slipknot, but its depressing in a different way, OK computer was about how big city life can basically make you dead inside, it was thoughtful and deep.. however "i push my finger into my eyes, its the only way to stop the pain" or whatever slipknot sings is just droll and lame. it is basically glorifying self infliction

dude..."i push my fingers into my eyes" is describing what he does when he has a migraine. you put your fingers iin your eyes and it makes it feel better. douche. i dont even listen to slipknot but i dont go calling them lame cos i dont understand their lyrics

[Thyrfing]

Listening to any kind of Slipknot will make one try to kill himself.

[Vai_Rulez]

ok i would quote all the stupid crap iplayguitar666 has said but sadly I dont think I have enough room so....

1st off ok Joey signed drum sticks with his own blood? sooo what. If that is self inflicting pain upon yourself then I guess pricking your finger to check your blood sugar is too?

2nd WE GET IT! YOU DONT LIKE SLIPKNOT!!! give it a rest! Who cares how heavy they are thats the problem with little kids like you now a days. Its all about the image for you. You guys eat it up. Its pathetic. FOCUS ON THE MUSIC! so what if you dont like them dont post 38485843 comments saying how they suck. get over yourself.

3rd Mariah Carey?.... so you think SlipKnot is a sexy large breasted female singer...you...are gay.

PS having 666 in your name doesnt make any more or less "hardcore" then you make SlipKnot out to be.

[Vai_Rulez]

And yes Steve Vai has mixed his blood into the paint of one of his guitars. And does he seem like the self inflicting type to you?

[acidhammerdrums]

Shadow_player wrote:

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

So does KISS printing a comic book that contains their own blood in the red ink also promote self-harm?

[Vai_Rulez]

EXACTLY!!! I guess self inflicting pain covers everythin from to SlipKnot and Kiss to Diabetics.

[axe_man]

lol yes cause slipknot is emo music 8

[TatarSalad2]

Any band in any genre can promote self harm. But metal is just used because it gives the media something to feed off of. If The Jonas Brothers had a song with lyrics saying "My life sucks let's go ****!" do you think anyone would notice or care? I doubt it.

I think the media should be looking at bands like BrokNCYDE and Dot Dot Curve who is promoting kids to go out to clubs and have sex and dress like skanks with their music. If you can even call it music.

[Vai_Rulez]

What we need to do is if we are going to point the finger at SlipKnot for making kids cut and such then maybe we should focus more on bands that are more 'hardcore' i.e. Six Feet Under, Burzum, Mayhem, etc.
dont get me wrong I love Burzum's ambient stuff but the other bands I'm not really into. All im saying is if the finger is going to be pointed at bands and not the kids committing the act, and it will be its inevitable, then why not point it at the right people. there are worse bands then SlipKnot who ACTUALLY promote self infliction, im not saying the bands I listed are the bands in question im just saying those are bands that are heavier then SlipKnot IMO.

[maidenfan15]

I'm not a fan of Slipknot at all, but props to Corey for this statement.

[DemonicTurtle66]

Anyone else find it ironic that under the "other Slipknot news" thingy the first article is "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood"

lol

[ratracekid111]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

I would be more likely to kill myself if i had to listen to the jonas brothers

[meleadyoufollow]

axe_man wrote:

lol yes cause slipknot is emo music 8

i don't even agree, but god i love pissing off slipknot fans.
+1

[Eazilly]

I stand corrected. Slipknot is not kid's music as I said earlier. The whole point of the matter is that music has power and all power can be wrongfully used and knowledge can be manipulated. Hey. If it rocks and you hear the freakin' distortion, then I'd consider us all Brothers of the Metallic Era. Remember why it came about (metal and hard rock). People saw problems in the world and wanted to wake up their fellow humans to the obviousness of the 'truth' we were fed as kids. Peace to you all who pick up the guitar and want to change the world with it.

[Eazilly]

Remember Cannibal Corpse's Tomb of the Mutilated? With such lovely tracks as "Hammer Smashed Face", I Cum Blood" and "Entrails Ripped from a Virgin's C**t"? And we think Psychosocial is bad? LOL I love humanity and its little flipflops of morality.

[Soozy]

Has marilyn manson ever done anything like this? As opposed to just saying 'my music doesn't cause shootings'

[Gakbez]

I like the way he says "Guys, the ****. Face the real problems, its not music. ITS YOURSELVES."

[FlyingPirahna]

I wish it did, we could use less br00t@l m@gg075 around here.

[charlesshai]

anyone who thinks music makes them want to kill themselves, well those stupid ****s deserve to die for doing a retarded thing like blaming music for why they're so depressed. i love the music, its nice and heavy, but its also a beautiful form of art. it may be dark, yes, but for someone who loves music in all forms can honestly say to every person in here, music doesnt influence you to wanting to die. teenagers get so damn depressed over shit in school like break ups, fights, shit going on at home with family, its fills their minds with thoughts, and they run to listen to music in hope for a cure to the problem. its not the musicians fault or the songs fault for the way you feel, you think of the way you feel. grow the **** up you sorry ingrates, leave music alone. LONG LIVE SLIPKNOT AND COREY FUCKING TAYLOR, GOD OF SLIPKNOT AND STONE SOUR.

[Kastöm]

is this supposed to be news? The headline should be changed to "click here for massive amounts of obviousness"

[rainmaker13]

Imagine where Slipknot would be today if they had decided NOT to where masks.

[rainmaker13]

^^wear

[Duke von Rock]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

dude... people accused MEGADETH for being stanists and encourage human sacrifice... and hamerfall is supposed to be ****in nazis according to news ppl, yes they sing about templars, no thats not more nazi than my toes beeing VERY white from always beeing inside shoes...

[Duke von Rock]

*satanists (keyboard is cracking down)

[Guitar_Jester]

There are enough people who cut themselves. Even the ones that don't listen to metal or anything close.

It's just the people themselves who are ****ed up.

[sicfreak91]

Quote: " I know what it's like to feel like you're the last person on Earth. All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there."

Slipknots' being a little hypocritical here with their lastest album being titled, "ALL HOPE IS GONE", I think ...

Sure theres probably a deeper meaning to it, but when a parent goes through their local walmart music depart. and they run into Slipknots' album, I know theres only one thing running through my mind when i see it .. I not saying its true, just its the impression Slipknot is giving. If the band doesn't want to get that kind of attention, then they need to simply change their image. Corey needs to go back to Stone sour and be in a band he truely fits in and knows hes comfortable in.

[thedarkblues06]

jamie_hough wrote:

Shadow_player wrote:

Also something ironic. if you see more slipknot news below the main article its say's "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood" o.O .....and they dont promote self harming atall.

Dude thats is so right LOL - I wasnt quick enough to get that but your 100% right. When I heard about hte drumstick thing I had to roll my eyes - its a bit.. kinda... stupid...

Doctor took the blood. Therefore your posts fail.

I agree with Corey on the part of, "It's not the music, it's yourselves." And whoever quoted Eminem's "Sing For The Moment" is ABSOLUTELY correct.

Who'd uh thunk it? A white rapper speaking out for all of music? Music can't load a gun and cock it, YOU can. It's dumb, since reaching out isn't br00tal enough. Gah, I want to say something that I don't mean at this point.

[PALEGHOST888]

sicfreak91 wrote:

Quote: " I know what it's like to feel like you're the last person on Earth. All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there."

Slipknots' being a little hypocritical here with their lastest album being titled, "ALL HOPE IS GONE", I think ...

Sure theres probably a deeper meaning to it, but when a parent goes through their local walmart music depart. and they run into Slipknots' album, I know theres only one thing running through my mind when i see it .. I not saying its true, just its the impression Slipknot is giving. If the band doesn't want to get that kind of attention, then they need to simply change their image. Corey needs to go back to Stone sour and be in a band he truely fits in and knows hes comfortable in.

1)I wouldn't call it being hypocritical. It's called expression. I know that when I write stuff like that and step away from the mic, I feel better about myself. The fact that the album is called "all hope is gone" is kind of unimportant. Metallica had album with an electric chair on it. You didn't see a bunch of kids getting strapped in when it came out

I'm no more than a casual fan of slipknot, but as a member of the same genre (or something close to it) it always hurts me when bands get blamed. How would you feel if some mother came up to you and said "My kid committed suicide and it's all your fault". Parents are just trying to find away around realizing that they couldn't figure out that their kid needed help.

And as far as going back to Stonesour, that's really not going to help. Seeing is how one of their songs says "I can't take your silly world no more"...that's kind of suicidal if you think about it.

[taylorhindman]

by the title i thought they were being *******s about that Manson thing, but that is actually one of the intellectual things ive ever heard them say

[dcj438]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

pleskoch wrote:

U guys dont get it....dose who are fans of slipknot and whant to kill themselves dont whant to suicide beacause of slipknot... like corey said, thers something else wrong, if you whant to kill yourself for listening to a dark lyrics you'r ****ed up men.
Corey is so damn right...

EPIC FAIL.

by the time you learn how to spell you will of gotten over your raging boner for corey from slipknot... slipknot is gateway metal, its what shithead 14 year olds listen to before they discover mastodon.

statements like this make me want to hurt myself. and others that say mastodon is better than slipknot.

[jrcsgtpeppers]

=I don't believe that you can know you are suicidal and be suicidal. If you know your problems, you should fix them.
How can anyone say music has no influence on people? That is foolish. Saying bands like Slipknot don't have any impact on peoples' actions.

You want to be like your favorite bands. If you like buckethead, odds are you have your own bucket. If you love Led Zeppelin, you most likely have a few Zeppelin shirts. You learn their songs. You listen to their music. YOu try to act like them. Rappers dress like morons, people dress like their favorite rappers. If John Lennon cuts his hair, you get yourself a haircut. If SLipknow writes about cutting themselves what do you think is going to happen next?

[dcj438]

sicfreak91 wrote:

Quote: " I know what it's like to feel like you're the last person on Earth. All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there."

Slipknots' being a little hypocritical here with their lastest album being titled, "ALL HOPE IS GONE", I think ...

Sure theres probably a deeper meaning to it, but when a parent goes through their local walmart music depart. and they run into Slipknots' album, I know theres only one thing running through my mind when i see it .. I not saying its true, just its the impression Slipknot is giving. If the band doesn't want to get that kind of attention, then they need to simply change their image. Corey needs to go back to Stone sour and be in a band he truely fits in and knows hes comfortable in.

umm...the album name "all hope is gone" and most of the lyrics, are pointed towards the political side of things here.

[kamjam7]

AaronianKenrod wrote:

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are
blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

no kidding. I'm not a fan of marilyn, but i've heard of the whole louisiana thing, and there should be no reason to blame the musicians for it. but hey, they also said ac\dc had something to with it, so that cancels out the 'dark' music thing.

what about his obsession with hitler?

[valnir230]

It really isnt music that makes them self destructive, its when they hang out with dumbasses who make it seem like its normal and that hurting themselves or others is cool. real life people have much more drastic effects on kids and teenagers than any music can possibly have

[IRONxPANTERA]

BlitzkriegAir wrote:

i disagree. every time i listen to this music i want to kill myself

[lukas1324]

jrcsgtpeppers wrote:

=I don't believe that you can know you are suicidal and be suicidal. If you know your problems, you should fix them.
How can anyone say music has no influence on people? That is foolish. Saying bands like Slipknot don't have any impact on peoples' actions.

You want to be like your favorite bands. If you like buckethead, odds are you have your own bucket. If you love Led Zeppelin, you most likely have a few Zeppelin shirts. You learn their songs. You listen to their music. YOu try to act like them. Rappers dress like morons, people dress like their favorite rappers. If John Lennon cuts his hair, you get yourself a haircut. If SLipknow writes about cutting themselves what do you think is going to happen next?

THey have never wrote a song that talks about cutting yourself. Dumbass.

[dfinch10]

its funny that kids never go out and kill themselves because of death or black metal bands. They always do it because of more commercialized bands like manson and slipknot. just an observation. im not judging slipknots metal credentials so dont say that i am.

This is gunna be fun.

Checked.

[all_things_end]

it's really sad that ppl try and put problems like this on music. this is a much bigger problem that for these kids is released through cutting and self destructive behavior the music just happens to be there

[ldnovelo]

this reminds me of something i read on a maddox article about suicide. some guy emailed him saying that someone probably killed himself after reading the article. maddox answered saying something like "if some guy killed himself after reading a comedy article on the internet, how much do you think he would have lasted anyway?". the slipknot guy has a point too. if people kill themselves or some one else after reading a book, listening to a poser metal band, listeing to sh*t emo bands, reading and article or watchiong a movie, it's really because something is wrong with the guy who did it, or took it seriously.

[Pool_Shark]

Plus I think anyone who wants a drum stick signed with someones blood, regardless of who they are, has something wrong with them.

[98Timberwolf]

dfinch10 wrote:

its funny that kids never go out and kill themselves because of death or black metal bands. They always do it because of more commercialized bands like manson and slipknot. just an observation. im not judging slipknots metal credentials so dont say that i am.

I think the vocal style of death/black metal is quite comical. Probably because I watch metalocalypse.

[BassistFreak]

This isn't the first time someone blamed suicide or self harm on metal.

It's nothing new, people just try to my excuses for things that happen everyday.

[Shazazmic]

"As bleak as Slipknot can be, it's supposed to be positive in the long term and the last thing we want is for anyone to hurt themselves."

Surfacing and People = Shit are positive songs indeed.

[iowaguitarshred]

Why does it seem like everybody goes out of their way to bash on slipknot? I honestly like slipknot but i like a lot of other different types of bands too, Alice in chains, Tool, Lamb of God, Trivium, Maiden (I was listening to maiden as a 14 year old during the 90's, I got a lot of shit for that.)

First off, Slipknot or any other musician does NOT influence these kids to do what they do. They simply attract them (this is a '**** you' to the teacher above who obviously needs to take a psychology class himself.) We live in a society, especially in today's youth, where good looks, nice skin complexion, nice body, etc. is what is going to get you respect of any kind from anyone. These kids naturally look and act different and they look up to slipknot because they're not a pretty band.

Yeah, you can call them emo fags or whatever you like but if you're saying that then you probably don't deal with bullshit on a daily basis like they do. You've probably been picked on occasionally and try to relate it to these kids, but you've never really had to deal with daily intolerance. It's the same reason why poor African Americans in places such as Compton listen to rap, because those artists were also at one point a poor black African American.

Somebody mentioned nature versus nurture above and that is a dead on explanation of these kids behaviors. As for you anti-slipknot fans, I'm not asking you to like them, I'm not going to go into a pointless analysis of why i think they're a good band. I'm simply asking you to try to see what Corey is saying and put off your personal feelings of his music, because he DOES speak truth. I'm not saying this because I'm a slipknot fan, because I will admit to some bullshit that they do (for example, Clown acting like an ego maniacal, childish jack ass during the mayhem tour.)

[rongold360]

iowaguitarshred wrote:

Why does it seem like everybody goes out of their way to bash on slipknot? I honestly like slipknot but i like a lot of other different types of bands too, Alice in chains, Tool, Lamb of God, Trivium, Maiden (I was listening to maiden as a 14 year old during the 90's, I got a lot of shit for that.)

First off, Slipknot or any other musician does NOT influence these kids to do what they do. They simply attract them (this is a '**** you' to the teacher above who obviously needs to take a psychology class himself.) We live in a society, especially in today's youth, where good looks, nice skin complexion, nice body, etc. is what is going to get you respect of any kind from anyone. These kids naturally look and act different and they look up to slipknot because they're not a pretty band.

Yeah, you can call them emo fags or whatever you like but if you're saying that then you probably don't deal with bullshit on a daily basis like they do. You've probably been picked on occasionally and try to relate it to these kids, but you've never really had to deal with daily intolerance. It's the same reason why poor African Americans in places such as Compton listen to rap, because those artists were also at one point a poor black African American.

Somebody mentioned nature versus nurture above and that is a dead on explanation of these kids behaviors. As for you anti-slipknot fans, I'm not asking you to like them, I'm not going to go into a pointless analysis of why i think they're a good band. I'm simply asking you to try to see what Corey is saying and put off your personal feelings of his music, because he DOES speak truth. I'm not saying this because I'm a slipknot fan, because I will admit to some bullshit that they do (for example, Clown acting like an ego maniacal, childish jack ass during the mayhem tour.)

Iowaguitarshred is right. Just because they [i]like/i] Slipknot dosnt mean they hurt themselves over it. Do they tell us how many people hurt themselves who like jonas brothers n crap? no. Probably because its just as high. Then they wont speak out because they dont have a reason for hurting themselves. Their crazy. But people just blame it on metal to have a reason. Because they dont have a reason. People = S**t.

[rongold360]

btw, im 14 now. Im goin thru what iowaguitarshred went thru. Everyone hates my music, but they dont understand the 30,000+ other people at the concert like, and thats just north california that could afford tickets. So dont push me.

[Force Reaver]

Vai_Rulez wrote:

EXACTLY!!! I guess self inflicting pain covers everythin from to SlipKnot and Kiss to Diabetics.

No it covers ignorance and stupidity

[Tedward]

to me slipknot songs seem like they make people want to hurt others and not themselves.

the people who hurt themselves were the way they are long before they found a new band to worship

[rvlationmachine]

i just want to say...EAZILLY you are a true dumbass. bashing a band just because you think they suck means nothing to anyone.you are the type of person this site could do without.now go keep your nose in the books,where it belongs.

[Whizzo]

Slipknot can do what they like. At the end of the day its their music and their lyrics, any teen who wants harm themselves has their reasons, no matter how petty, the music will never be the root cause. If the music wasnt there it wouldnt affect self-harm, theres the net, tv, rap music et.c. SlipKnot are just living the life they wanna live so stop blaming them and start taking a more focused view on the fact that each individual has their own unique issues and influences.

[yngwie.jnr]

GuitarShredder+ wrote:

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

If you read the article it's now like he cut his wrists and wrote his name on there... He got blood taken out and mixed with the permanent ink they use on the drumsticks; it's not self-inflicted pain at all.

and they blood was taken out with a (vial)

[Magero]

Pretty sure the line is "I wanna slit your throat and **** the wound", not "I wanna slit MY throat..."
That should be proof enough.

[chaos13]

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

I'm not sure you can blame street crime on rap and hip hop either, its just the same as saying metal is responsible for all the murders and suicides in the world. The majority of listeners are not influenced by it to that degree.

[jrcsgtpeppers]

To the drumstick issue.

Does it really matter how he drew blood, he is signing drumsticks with blood. Why does he have to do that? I don't know, maybe for a cool, evil, metal image?

[harpcicle]

methinks corey's just talking a load of old shit

[svswimur101]

AaronianKenrod wrote:

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

Who says Slipknot is metal? I agree completely with your point, but Slipknot is definitely not metal.

[metallica_121]

i personally think it's ****ed up how once some messed up kid hurts themselves and people find out what band they like they attack that band left right and centre, half the time it's not the music doing this, it's the mainstream *******s bashing metalheads and making them feel secluded because they like metal, trust me it's happened to alot of people i know,

[rvlationmachine]

if slipknot isnt metal, then what are they? what do YOU call metal? I think you are all a bunch of dumbasses!!

[AnEvilWalrus]

Abhorred One wrote:

I dislike Slipknot, but he makes a good point. Kudos to him for defending metal, today's biggest scapegoat.

This.

[metallica_121]

to rvlationmachine: i love slipknot but apparently they can't be a metal band because they wear masks and they've been on tv, idiots who say they true metal heads aren't true metal heads for making it their "duty" to attack a very successful band anytime they read they're name

[Cianyx]

jrcsgtpeppers wrote:

=I don't believe that you can know you are suicidal and be suicidal. If you know your problems, you should fix them.
How can anyone say music has no influence on people? That is foolish. Saying bands like Slipknot don't have any impact on peoples' actions.

You want to be like your favorite bands. If you like buckethead, odds are you have your own bucket. If you love Led Zeppelin, you most likely have a few Zeppelin shirts. You learn their songs. You listen to their music. YOu try to act like them. Rappers dress like morons, people dress like their favorite rappers. If John Lennon cuts his hair, you get yourself a haircut. If SLipknow writes about cutting themselves what do you think is going to happen next?

I agree with the suicidal part. I've gone through part of this angst stuff and it's pretty hard to fix if you don't know what it is. Music affects ones mood but not their actions. I will expand more on this but it will be then regurgitating Eminem.
To my main point, wanting to be like your favourite band isn't necessarily true. I have little to no band shirts and dress in no way similar to any of my favourite bands. I believe it is the culture behind the band which influences the fans to dress in a certain way. Fans wouldn't wear band shirts because their favourite band wears band shirts (with the exception of diehard fanboys). That's like saying I'm gonna be wearing a black shirt because Jim Morrison did in that music video.

[MetalGear1786]

All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there.

Nice words, but not very true. Im sorry but people are just selfish, greedy, *******s today. You reach out to somebody and they will spit on your for not doing everything 100% correct. That's probably why those kids cut themselves.

[isabiggles]

I think emo bands like Slipknot and Metallica are causing young kids to self-harm and commit school shootings and I definetly wouldn't want my kids listening to such dangerous 'music' because they'll try and kill me.

[rvlationmachine]

honestly i dont give a shit what anybody says. slipknot has all the apparent earmarks that make a metal band, metal.I hear everyone praising lamb of god for being so great,but no one bashes them for becoming popular! quite frankly you are all to childish to see through your own bullshit! if anyone wants to argue with me on this,im free all night long

[kfong03]

corey is win

[Irondave321]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

on a serious note, i know someone who is a huge fan of them, impressionable high school kid... oh and guess what? he tried to kill himself

DId you read this article? If your implying that it was the music than your obviously lack the intelligence to comprehend the meaning of the message.

[dcj438]

isabiggles wrote:

I think emo bands like Slipknot and Metallica are causing young kids to self-harm and commit school shootings and I definetly wouldn't want my kids listening to such dangerous 'music' because they'll try and kill me.

ah, to be 14 again. only, i wouldnt be as ignorant as you. emo bands, haha, go back to listening to your 80's pop bullsh!t.

[Invert-blu]

Yes, Corey knows whats right. This is the same idea of video games or tv affecting children negatively. IT DOESN'T. If a teen goes suicidal or even homicidal, media is not causing it, rather it is something else that is far more impacting in his or her life. Media my assist in these thoughts, but it is always something else that is the origin.

[7stringuzr]

i guess ill go push my fingers into my eyes then

[Stratogibson]

People realese steam by lisening to music or whatever your hobby is. Blaming music on sombody's death is like blaming a pencil on a mispelled word.

[Insanity 101]

Ive been listening to these guys since i was about...13. And not once have I ever felt the need to do anything ridiculous or hurtful to myself. If a kids doing something like that to themselves, they were going to do it anyway. I think the music is a convenient thing to blame it on.

Just my opinion

[Devilguy]

Ok first of all music help frequently kids that are not feeling right for many reasons. Those how cut themselves, try to or kill themselve or other person(s)have serious problems and need the help of specialist but they don't have or don't want to have that help, witch is why many kids and even adults try to fill this need by listening to music. Witch in certain cases works but in others no. Sometimes we don't understand what's happening to us and we have some questions that remain unanswered and music frequently give us those answers because we discover that we're not the only ones with those questions and those problems. I could easily go on and on for the night but I just think that music is a very beautiful thing and we should enjoy it for every second.

isabiggles wrote:

I think emo bands like Slipknot and Metallica are causing young kids to self-harm and commit school shootings and I definetly wouldn't want my kids listening to such dangerous 'music' because they'll try and kill me.

You need to know that music is not dangerous at all and that Slipknot and Metallica are not emo bands. Before saying anything about something you don't fully understand try to seek information first.

[philipdurbin]

People need to get a grip on "emo". not just because a band screams/growls does not mean they are emo. In fact the emo genre includes Fall Out Boy, New Found Glory, My Chemical Romance etc. All of which are not even close musically to Slipknot, Metallica or any other metal bands labled "emo" in this forum

[alextrebeki]

i do think that slipknots music ENCOURAGES some kids to harm themselves, but i don't think it CAUSES it. it is suprising to me how so many parents are willing to neglect their children to the point of insanity, yet when the child displays self harm they automatically throw up a red flag and blame it on the music, as if that is the cause

[Rokeman]

I believe that by having... let's say bleak songs, it actually shows that bands understand what it's like, and it gives people something to reach out to, as the song may be expressing what the listener is feeling.

Everyone has a sad song that they listen to when they're down, right? Because the song is saying what you feel, you relate to it, and it helps.

The whole world can't be happy, bouncy manufactured pop.

[Actionadmiral]

Haha other articles listed underneath it first one is "Slipknot drummer sells drumsticks signed with own blood"

[jp2_2026]

hes just so right...

[tymanic]

listen to eminem - kim

[fuhugwagads]

metal makes me want to hurt others =P

ps, I don't even consider slipknot metal.. or music for that matter.

[SmileOfHavok]

PLOP wrote:

Without being cheesy, Slipknot ACTUALLY gives me hope, when all hope is gone.

Thumbs up.

[fearthellamas]

it is not the music, it is the individual. it depends how the person listening to it interprets it. songs have different meanings to different people, and thier life choices are not reflected by the music they listen to unless they take something they hear literally

[ledmetacdc]

Lol, even Slipknot knows there main crowd are lol fail emo kids xD

[ledmetacdc]

Stratogibson wrote:

People realese steam by lisening to music or whatever your hobby is. Blaming music on sombody's death is like blaming a pencil on a mispelled word.

DAMN YOU PENCIL!!!

[Raven_Flight]

iplayguitar666 :
i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

THIS!!!

[Dreiken]

I just gained a bunch of respect for Corey Taylor after reading this.

[Izzy_Bryce]

personally i think if u got somethin wrong in ur brain that makes that special switch go off, anything can make it go off. music is a comfort thing. so is certain movies, certain games, etc.

the games would be violent, the movies probably a slasher film or somethin, and the music being dark and sick or somethin. now heres how it works. ppl who r messed up like this, reach out to violence, regardless of it being fake, because they can relate to it. this stuff is clearly fake. the music, movies, and games. they take it very serious, and thats how it happends. and for the media and stuff to nail bands like slipknot, games like GTA, and movies like SAW or somethin, they just love to nail the fake violence. cuz if they do that, theyll get attention. they wanna call it a simulator and stuff. they wanna say all kinds of stuff. and besides, slipknot aint even that dark.

[ggggtarded]

i think that people are crazy. i am not going to pretend to be a psychiatrist to impress the ug people with intellect that i do not actually have. heavy metal is what it is. i do believe that if all you look for is shit then that is probably what youll see. does this really matter anyhow. will my post save anyones life or change anyones mind?? i should have probably kept this to myself. obviously i didn't.

[voodoochild23]

Slipknot's music gives naive kids a sense of liberation that they do not know how to control.

It let's them believe that their short sighted ideas are worth following up; that they should listen to themselves above everything else.

Depending on the individual, it'll either help them grow into a stronger person, or be the to them giving up. The kids parents decide what kind of individual they are though, not slipknot.

[voodoochild23]

[error]the key* to them...

[IIVV]

It's not Slipknot's music that causes suicide, it's the emo image that they have played a big part in making 'cool'.
Last year I met a 16 year old Slipknot 'fan' at my course who had cut the Slipknot logo all over his arms. I asked him why and he said because he hates his mother. Nothing to do with Slipknot's music. After talking to him for half an hour I had established that this kid hated his mother because she wouldn't let him go out drinking because he was under-age (which I think is fair enough), and he had cut himself as a warning to her (not because of Slipknot's music), or in other words he was blackmailing her. I don't think that Slipknot's music is responsible at all, but the band themselves are to a point, since they helped create this emo fad. Emos are just an insult to people with real mental health issues.

[Niiko_Xeneize]

lukas1324 wrote:

jrcsgtpeppers wrote:

=I don't believe that you can know you are suicidal and be suicidal. If you know your problems, you should fix them.
How can anyone say music has no influence on people? That is foolish. Saying bands like Slipknot don't have any impact on peoples' actions.

You want to be like your favorite bands. If you like buckethead, odds are you have your own bucket. If you love Led Zeppelin, you most likely have a few Zeppelin shirts. You learn their songs. You listen to their music. YOu try to act like them. Rappers dress like morons, people dress like their favorite rappers. If John Lennon cuts his hair, you get yourself a haircut. If SLipknow writes about cutting themselves what do you think is going to happen next?

THey have never wrote a song that talks about cutting yourself. Dumbass.

Though Slipknot is one of my favourite bands, I must say they have a song about cutting yourself, it's called "Tattered & Torn". Corey said I was one of those boys so obviously you're gonna see some things like those on their songs (especially the old ones), but if kids after listening this kind of music goes to cut their own arms, it's because there are issues with them and so you can blame the parents for not guiding them.

[a7xf@n43v3r]

Its another cluster**** that everybodys going to try to explain or argue about. Yipee.

[DiveRightIn63]

when i hear this music, all i want to do is kill myself.

so, yes it does.

[DwizzleDizzle]

Ok you seem like one of the emo cutters now, i can name 3 places around the city i live that are free group therapy, they help tons of kids every day, so obviously u dont kno where to look, or ur just talking out ur ass

MetalGear1786 wrote:

All you have to do is reach out and someone will be there.

Nice words, but not very true. Im sorry but people are just selfish, greedy, *****s today. You reach out to somebody and they will spit on your for not doing everything 100% correct. That's probably why those kids cut themselves.

[rhoadrunner]

why cant hannah montana attract deppressed cutters into her fanbase

[sneyob]

It encourages me to try to destroy my ears so they don't have to endure that kind of punishment ever again.
So you're lying.

[Filip413]

Its precisely these type of stupid half wit kids that bands need to steer clear of. In my opinion if kids are dumb enough to actually want to cut themselves or do any self harm because their favourite band does/writes about it then let it be. Today's kids are ****ed to say the least. Parents go out of their way to create limitless opportunities for their kids just to help better their lives and protect them, in response these kids spit in their faces and to me there is no greater insult. I'm not saying its all kids, in fact most are actually bright, but its always the minority, that small 5% who **** it for everybody else. These kids are a mockery to people with real mental health problems and if they contemplate self harm its not the music to blame, in most cases its them and their parents.

[silent caution]

rhoadrunner wrote:

why cant hannah montana attract deppressed cutters into her fanbase

cause 8 year olds dont know the "horrors" of the real world yet

[RukiaTH]

Eazilly wrote:

Why do you say old skool Slipknot? They're a ****in' 90's band, kids. True heavy metal is the likes of Slayer, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Pantera. You talk about this band like it's not a passing fancy and like it's been around longer than the last 12 years. You gotta lotta growing up to do son.

Hey, genius, Pantera rose to popularity in the 90's!

[ledmetacdc]

The reason that Slipknot,

IIVV wrote:

It's not Slipknot's music that causes suicide, it's the emo image that they have played a big part in making 'cool'.
Last year I met a 16 year old Slipknot 'fan' at my course who had cut the Slipknot logo all over his arms. I asked him why and he said because he hates his mother. Nothing to do with Slipknot's music. After talking to him for half an hour I had established that this kid hated his mother because she wouldn't let him go out drinking because he was under-age (which I think is fair enough), and he had cut himself as a warning to her (not because of Slipknot's music), or in other words he was blackmailing her. I don't think that Slipknot's music is responsible at all, but the band themselves are to a point, since they helped create this emo fad. Emos are just an insult to people with real mental health issues.

This. One of the best comments so far. The thing is, if your whole thing is about how much society hates you, of course the really hardcore people into that are going to buy into that. Slipknot really isn't that dark, but unlike really dark music, its very personal.

Checked

[Angel Of Sin]

Ahahah Slpiknot promoting self harm, thats ridiculous when you have bands such as Thy Light, Nocturnal Depression and Shining!!!!

[Shredder XXX]

I think this can be boiled down to the simple fact that music is not dangerous. It just isn't, it's something that exists in all of our minds individually, we interpret it our own way and we react to it accordingly.

I wouldn't go so far to say that no-one has ever been compelled to kill themselves by the music they listen to. I'm sure there are legitimate cases.

But what people don't realize is that there's already something wrong in the persons mind before music has come along. That kid is already depressed, or already has no friends, or already hates his parents. What this means is by the time the music reaches them, they're hearing it through so many of their own intellectual lenses that they only get what they want out of it. Depressed kid hears depression, Lonely kid hears isolation, Hateful kid hears hatred.

So when a person does anything insane you can't boil the cause down to their taste in music. It makes no sense to. What you can be sure of is that kid was messed up, or wanted attention, or just wanted to watch the world burn. All of these things exist within him/herself with or without music.

[jthm_guitarist]

Haha, the next headline down is

"Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood"

[gioitti1]

Corey is such an amazing guy, I'm impressed.
For real.
He can make the best music on earth, but he can also be nice to his fans and figure out the problems and solve them,. Amazing.

[aslaug3]

Blame it on the boogie...

[SOADriff]

im just about sick of hearing people blaming music for incidents. But to be honest, i strongly dislike slipknot, however alot of my friends went and saw them when they came to Perth and they said they were mosh was way too intense and they were pushing them to go harder. i saw video of it on youtube and i could see what they meant, it was way too dangerous, one of my friends went out with a broken nose. They may not promote harm with their music, but maybe they do at their shows.

[Ricebag Darrel]

BlitzkriegAir wrote:

i disagree. every time i listen to this music i want to kill myself

Me too

[sheppo]

SOADriff wrote:

im just about sick of hearing people blaming music for incidents. But to be honest, i strongly dislike slipknot, however alot of my friends went and saw them when they came to Perth and they said they were mosh was way too intense and they were pushing them to go harder. i saw video of it on youtube and i could see what they meant, it was way too dangerous, one of my friends went out with a broken nose. They may not promote harm with their music, but maybe they do at their shows.

are you serious? BDO they were encouraging people to help each other in the mosh cause it was really crazy. i don't understand where this shit comes from music is my life and i wouldn't want to hurt myself because of it, it brings me so much joy even if its about death and gloom thats not the point PRIEST, METALLICA, MANSON, SLIPKNOT ETC. this debate will go on forever corey said it in the first paragraph "If you're setting out to hurt yourself, it's not the music that's causing it. There's something else wrong.

[voidSkipper]

Music, movies and video games. Violence and depression existed before metal - do people really not realise this?

[Irish Bassist]

i blame grand theft auto for making me want to hijack a helicopter and crash it into a crowded street.stealing a near-by ambulance and running over.....sory got carried away there!!!!

[Yoyo Of Death]

people dont seem to notice that people dont go cutting themselves just because of music. other influences like monopolar or bipolar depression can influence this, bullying at school etc there should be more to stop the influences of this behavior and stop the flaming of people who are artistically expressing themselves for other peoples entertainment.

i know im just reinforcing what Taylor said but im just confused about all this debate, its pointless. im a metalhead myself and i listen to death metal and thrash and so on but never in my life has music made me feel like hurting myself or others around me.

if you want to hurt or kill yourself in any circumstance ur screwed in the head full stop. And BTW its not only metalheads and emos commit suicide because of music

Example; my mum used to know a person when she went to school whos auntie committed suicide when the jackson 5 broke up. TRUE STORY im dead f****n serious
we need metal bands to get out and promote the fact that their music is not promoting their fans to hurt themselves. theyre just expressing their feelings LEAVE METAL ALONE!

[OMGWTFBBQ?]

Yoyo Of Death wrote:

people dont seem to notice that people dont go cutting themselves just because of music. other influences like monopolar or bipolar depression can influence this, bullying at school etc there should be more to stop the influences of this behavior and stop the flaming of people who are artistically expressing themselves for other peoples entertainment.

i know im just reinforcing what Taylor said but im just confused about all this debate, its pointless. im a metalhead myself and i listen to death metal and thrash and so on but never in my life has music made me feel like hurting myself or others around me.

if you want to hurt or kill yourself in any circumstance ur screwed in the head full stop. And BTW its not only metalheads and emos commit suicide because of music

Example; my mum used to know a person when she went to school whos auntie committed suicide when the jackson 5 broke up. TRUE STORY im dead f****n serious
we need metal bands to get out and promote the fact that their music is not promoting their fans to hurt themselves. theyre just expressing their feelings LEAVE METAL ALONE!

This guy is right

[jacksonmetaller]

i don't know... everytime i listen to slipknot's "music" i'm kinda tempted to commit suicide myself

[Pyd Pyper]

Wow, lead singer taknig this so seriously.

I mean, he even agreed NOT to take his mask off for teh interview.

[chickrawker]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

i think i would kill myself if it was jonas brothers more than slipknot :p

[SoundOfDeity]

this is idiotic, Slipknot ****ing own, i hate people giving the band a bad name, seeing as they're legends within their own right
Well done corey, you ****ing legend!

[mtllica]

as much as I don't like Slipknot anymore, I've gotta admit, Corey always has some great opinions on issues like this

[TheeMoppyCopter]

i dont like slipknot now but coreys right. ive self-harmed and attempted suicide before... and it had nothing to do with music.
i do have songs that make me feel depressed but that usually because of what happened when i first listened to them... id rather not share what songs they are or what happened...

[SlayingDragons]

If people are having this much disscusion on slipknot, have they really failed?

not saying i like them, but think about it. they're probably the most popular metal band known to fifth-graders.

Besides metalica.

[Siege of Power]

You know who's fault it is?
Their parents.
Parents should be deciding what is appropriate for their child to listen to, but they are too lazy, and when their children try to self-harm they need someone to blame to hide their terrible parenting

[evil-adam]

its always gone on,
its one of those things

[Samothomas]

Selling self harm to kids doesn't work without purity rings.

[ggggtarded]

i think its the parents of the parents fault. chances are the parents of those parents did something wrong as well.but then those parents probably picked up bad parenting skills from the parents that raised them. i choose to blame global warming.

[romencer17]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

lol hip hop culture isn't ruining anything, people started rapping about hustling and gangbanging because that's what was going on in their lives anyways. they don't do it just for an image, it's just how they live in the streets.

[loganpwns]

righttt,and im gonna become rich

"there's something inside me that feels, like breasthing in sulfur"

Oh yes, how could any kid whos depressed as it is, take that the wrong way

[loganpwns]

breathing*

[randyaintdead82]

Lertz wrote:

mastadon makes me want to kill myself

yeah ik writing songs about moby dick is just so hardccore and depressing and has a huge influene to make people kill themselves(sarcasm)

[EdForce1]

I think it's stupid. Slipknot probably saves more kids from killing themselves than kids that "they make" kill themselves. They definitely help me when I'm depressed.

[TheInfringement]

Ok, listen. Slipknot songs have lyrics that are making people think it's pushing kids to kill themselves. Hahaha FUCK NO. thats just bullshit in so many ways its unbelievable. Most musicians write about things that they can attach to and express through; Corey even said that he had problems with cutting! That might explain why those lyrics show up... DUH. He can connect with those lyrics and release through them, and that's why the words are what they are. And people need to seriously stop shitting on music in general, all genres. If you don't like a band DON'T USE THAT BAND AS AN EXCUSE OR A SCAPEGOAT!!! Especially with metal. Saying what someone else said above, when you're actually at a show or something, it's the best feeling in the world. Because you're connecting with what they wrote and there's no bullshit. It's just pure emotion, in whatever way that may come. People that think kids hurting themselves is caused by music are the most ignorant people in the world. Music is what KEEPS kids from hurting or killing themselves, because MUSIC is where they find a translation for what they feel. They realize through music that they just need to be strong, and if they do hurt themselves they need to find help, because as the article says that is beyond music, that is the person's personal problems.

[link no1]

no band makes children want to kill themself (except jonas brothers)

its just that the children killing themselfs are retarded and ****ed up in the head. alot of the cases of kids doing this kind of thing (that ive heard about) the child is usually mentaly disabled/stupid.

Hip-hop has more of an effect on people shooting each other up etc. how many metal songs can you find that tell you in some way to harm somebody or yourself? if you listen to hip-hop then its in basicly every song ever wrote that 'raps' about guns, violence,drugs and sex

[Sorniyamiro]

if it´s not slipknot who makes people mentally sick, than it´s because most mentally sick people listen to slipknot

[ibanezel]

its so stupid how they blame random shit because they dont understand it.....if some dude killed him self while wearing a red shirt ,would you blame the red shirt and say its the redness that made him kill him self....

[Burt_Reynolds]

TheInfringement wrote:

Ok, listen. Slipknot songs have lyrics that are making people think it's pushing kids to kill themselves. Hahaha FUCK NO. thats just bullshit in so many ways its unbelievable. Most musicians write about things that they can attach to and express through; Corey even said that he had problems with cutting! That might explain why those lyrics show up... DUH. He can connect with those lyrics and release through them, and that's why the words are what they are. And people need to seriously stop shitting on music in general, all genres. If you don't like a band DON'T USE THAT BAND AS AN EXCUSE OR A SCAPEGOAT!!! Especially with metal. Saying what someone else said above, when you're actually at a show or something, it's the best feeling in the world. Because you're connecting with what they wrote and there's no bullshit. It's just pure emotion, in whatever way that may come. People that think kids hurting themselves is caused by music are the most ignorant people in the world. Music is what KEEPS kids from hurting or killing themselves, because MUSIC is where they find a translation for what they feel. They realize through music that they just need to be strong, and if they do hurt themselves they need to find help, because as the article says that is beyond music, that is the person's personal problems.

Thank you! Someone that gets it.

I used to harm myself and have always been a fan of Slipknot. Sometimes I would avoid hurting myself because I would lay in bed and listen to Left Behind instead. Though, yes I did do those things to myself, I also listened to Bowie when I was depressed. What the **** now? If anything, it's Pop music that made me want to hurt myself because it reminded me that I was different from everyone. If you find me hanging by a neck tie from my ceiling fan, just remember that I listened to Bob Dylan and Coltrane, as well as Manson and Cannibal Corpse!

[Metal5115]

Stuff like this pisses me off, a killer was found listning to metal, BLAME THE METAL, if they had listend to ANYTHING else (including rap) they take no notice. what the ****?

and what he said is right, if kids self harm they dont do it because of music (slipknot dont encourage people to self harm anyway, the lyrics are dark but so are shit loads of bands) they do it because of problems.

Joke time:

If i had to listen to slipknot id self harm because of how shit they are.

Oh how im hilarious...

[Altered_Carbon]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

You are clearly missing the point of this article. The music is not to blame; the idiots who try to don the lifestyle are.
It's the same for metal as it is for rap, and you are no less foolish for claiming hip hop culture is ruining peoples' lives than the media are for saying Marilyn Manson or Slipknot or whoever influences kids to kill themselves. Don't try merely shifting the blame to music you don't like. how about destroying the concept that music is the cause of this behavior?

[kirkwannabe]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i really just hate this band. they act like their are so dark when they are raking in millions off this crap. their basically writing lyrics that they know panders to young kids who are unpopular in high school and it drives them further into depression. you really think these guys are upset? this is their 4th album or so and they tour in big venues, their millionairs... dont take what they say seriously and stop giving them your money

You seriously need to shut the hell up. Just because of the fact that they make a lot of money doesn't mean they don't give a damn. Last time I checked rich =/= stuck up. It can mean that, but it doesn't have to. And if you hate the band, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE? This is a SLIPKNOT article, which, in order to get here, you had to CLICK ON! Don't like the band, don't post!

checked

[isolationband]

why cant we all just get along

[kornival]

dont blame slipknot or metal genre band for children's depression and/or anger towards society. Blame the parents for not being there at the early stages. if u dont like your kids listening to metal bands who supposedly influence your children to do negative things, then the parents should be the one to restrict their kids and monitor their children more closely. everything starts at home.
Notice how most of the negative actions were preceived and carried out by teenagers and not the adults who has a better understanding for life? adults need to educate their children better and take responsibility for their children's action as well as their own. Stop finding scapegoats.
On a different note, statistics have shown that people who listen to country music are more depress than those who listen to metal or any other genre.

[fretsofthebeast]

ok personaly i had slipknot.....but i see what corey means

if anything metal is stopping me and most people i kno to hurt themselves

[SoftParade1967]

AaronianKenrod wrote:

i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)

AGREED!!

[CurlyBash]

suicide isnt painless if you leave everyone in pain.

[DrPooh]

ALL Music encourages kids to self harm, it's called musical interpretation, why just Slipknot types?

(Personally, pop music makes me wanna self-harm :P)

[Ricky4635]

Saying Slipknot doesn't encourage kids cutting themselves is like saying the Jonas Brothers don't suck.

And trust me the Jonas Brothers really suck!

[Paramecium302]

see, music is my life, but just like life, you can't take it too seriously you know. Carving names into your arm...I mean i guess its like a tattoo so if you do it right so that you arent seriously hurt, i see nothing wrong with that. It's the *******s killing people, killing themselves blah blah blah, the press finds out they owned a Manson cd, all the sudden it's the MUSIC!!

Its the worst when the kids who did it actually BLAME the music they listen to. Metal, rap, whatever goddamnit, i wish people would just smarten the **** up.

[ilikeguitar90]

As some people probably already said, it's not bands like Marilyn Manson and Slipknot causing kids to hurt themselves. They listen to this kind of music in the first place because they're feeling down/misunderstood or whatever, and they can relate to these bands that also seem like they are outcasts/labeled as "freaks".

I went through a lot of bullying/being made fun of in elementary/middle school, and for no reason usually to, and that kind of teasing really messes with the way people perceive others and themselves. Or at least it did in my case. That kind of stuff really messes with an impressionable kid's mental state. When my grandpa that I saw every day died when I was in 7th grade, I took a few days off school, but was still crying a bit even after returning to school. These kids found out, and only made fun of me and my dead grandpa more. Such *******s. I grew up with a lot of anger through high school because of the teasing. I loved bands like slipknot, system of a down, black sabbath, pantera, and metallica because I felt I could relate to these guys and that they understood all the shit I was going through. I didn't self harm or anything, but I definitely felt down and misunderstood a lot of the time.

I'm in college now, so no stupid kids picking on other kids in an attempt to look cool/badass. Needless to say, I'm happier now and listen to all kinds of music, with favorites being 60s and 70s. I still absolutely hate those kids that picked on me though, and still remember all the stupid things they've done to me. I still have issues/problems with socializing with people, and have some mental problems (psychiatrist diagnosed).

So if anyone is reading this that's in school and is bullying other kids, don't do it. It really messes with their heads and you're probably doing more damage than you think.

/rant

[ilikeguitar90]

and fretsofthebeast is right

a lot of people listen to metal to feel empowered, not depressed. getting a feeling of importance like that I don't think would contribute to hurting yourself.

[Jard_weirdo]

ALL HOPE IS GONE!!!!

[DiabolusnMusica]

hahaha funny shit "Slipknot's Joey Jordison Sells Drum Sticks Signed With His Own Blood"
slipknot can explain what they want about their song's lyrics, joey can explain whatever about why and how he did that, it doesn't matter, it isn't their fault but there always gonna be stupid pieces of shit who take lyrics too serious and hurt themselves with this music. i know it cause i know a few, they dont even do a lil reserch of what the heck the band ment with the lyrics.

[HeathenChemist]

This Corey fellow just went up a few notches in my book. Though he really needs to say this type of thing in a concert where people will actually hear it. Or write a song that sums up what he's said in theis article.

No wait! Then kids would stop buying it!

Jokes aside, He's doing the right thing. And I can't stand Slipknot.

[randyaintdead82]

fretsofthebeast wrote:

ok personaly i had slipknot.....but i see what corey means

if anything metal is stopping me and most people i kno to hurt themselves

same, i was depressed before i started listening to them. now im only a little older but im so much more confident and i must say they gave me something to think about. i wasnt the only person who was somewhat angry and sad (yeah just an average angry teenager everyone was like this) it helped a lot and now im more confident and love having fun and even though ive expanded my taste i still love listening to them because theyre so energetic and fun to listen to. and joey is a badass on drums idc if mike prtnoy or danny carrey's better

[THRASH-MASTER94]

ALL HOPE IS GONE!!!

[metalmagic!]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

Amen to this!

[motimon3]

Some of Slipknot's lyrics ARE pretty harsh and depressing and also filled wif alot of hate..But the people who hurt themselves.. thats just THEIR way of expressing whats inside of them. Not everyone has an emo personality and would hurt themselves cuz of sad lyrics.

[jacksparrow4986]

my respect has gone up for this man.

[Idiot_Son]

most pop music makes me want to kill myself. why aren't we blaming the bland soda-pop shit?

[ReldvS]

let me say first off that im not really a big fan of Slipknot but what they are blaming them for is nothing new. This is the same old song and dance. No Music or Media can MAKE you do anything. Music is an expression. An art form like any other. Let me ask you this...do you think when Slipknot formed they intentionally set out to market to 4th and 5th graders? my thought is no. You are doing what you do the way you want to do it and all of a sudden people expect you to be a role model. Even though i dont like Slipknot, Cory Taylor has every right to be as dark and twisted as he wants to be. It's someone else who is responsible for harmful behavior and its a shame that anyone thinks you should be able to censor any type of creative art form. Be it hip hop or rap or metal or country or even Opera. If it offends you, DONT LISTEN TO OR READ IT. Take responsibility for you OWN actions and parents, if you want to blame someone. Start with your obviously lacking skills as a parent, some might say, A ROLE MODEL.

[yaxow]

i agree with corey. people dont hurt themselves based on the music they listen to that just makes no sense. It's obviously cuz their is something wrong

[kodmani]

stupid emo kids always blaming their problems on someone else !!!

[HeathenChemist]

link no1 wrote:

no band makes children want to kill themself (except jonas brothers)

its just that the children killing themselfs are retarded and ****ed up in the head. alot of the cases of kids doing this kind of thing (that ive heard about) the child is usually mentaly disabled/stupid.

Hip-hop has more of an effect on people shooting each other up etc. how many metal songs can you find that tell you in some way to harm somebody or yourself? if you listen to hip-hop then its in basicly every song ever wrote that 'raps' about guns, violence,drugs and sex

I think it's funny how you point out how people stereotype metal, then go on to stereotype hip hop.

Great job!

[Ali-b912]

HeathenChemist wrote:

I think it's funny how you point out how people stereotype metal, then go on to stereotype hip hop.

Great job!

Not so much mainstream hip hop, but gangsta rap openly promotes sexism, drug crime and general gang activity.

[DreadEnds]

lol id be depressed if i listened to a piece of crap "band" like this

Yeah because Corey can't sing a note and Jim isn't a great guitarist.

There is nothing wrong with slipknot.

They play heavy riffs and decent solos.
That is what any other metal BAND does.

Now if you don't like them that's fine.
But I'm sick to death of people saying they're not a real band and all that other shit that gets thrown at Slipknot because I bet Mick and Jim could outplay near ever single person who has posted on this artical... good post or bad.

[Adam_Harrison9]

The kids are usually troubled before they start listening to that kind of music. That's why they listen to it. Is it really that hard to work it out?

[kroket666]

has anyone noticed that those kids say they listen to 'metal' and only listen to Manson and Slipknot?

this isn't metallovers or Slipknot talking it's society and you've just joined whitout a vioce.
we'll never be heard.....

[metal-head666]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

you should kill yourself if you like the jonas brothers :P

[maltese_falcon]

exacally, metal bands have nothing 2 do with ppl killing themselves.

[HeathenChemist]

Ali-b912 wrote:

HeathenChemist wrote:

I think it's funny how you point out how people stereotype metal, then go on to stereotype hip hop.

Great job!

Not so much mainstream hip hop, but gangsta rap openly promotes sexism, drug crime and general gang activity.

Alright... if it's ok for this douche bag to 'sing' about slicing himself up because he's been through all of it, and apparently not promoting it, then it should be ok for gangsta rappersto rap about bitches, hoes and drive bys cause it's what they do. And they're not promoting it.

Yes it's ridiculous.

I'm not defending either genre, I'm just saying that you can't really get angry at people for stereotyping, then go and do it yourself.

Ali-b912 wrote:

Not so much mainstream hip hop, but gangsta rap openly promotes sexism, drug crime and general gang activity.

only in the same way that metal bands like carcass promote evisceration

checked

[Nirvanarien]

Well its easy for most of you to go about screaming: ''i hate those kids that cut band names in their arms!'' and equal stuff, obviously you have never been in that situation.... When a kid carves Slipknot or Slayer or whatever in to his arm it isn't because a band said so, its more of an ode,more importantly its their OWN choise,and sure its stereotype but that doesn't make it more true.

[Adamtbh]

Anyone else find the headline about joey jordison's sticks very ironic?

[MyFuriousNipple]

That was very well said. Props to Corey.

[Minion2580]

slipknot makes me want to hurt others, not myself, but im not emo

[Atazu]

OMG, so many comments to this post but, yeah, i, like al the rest, agree, that it is not the thing u should be doing if u have some problems )

[bucketheadbukut]

Adamtbh wrote:

Anyone else find the headline about joey jordison's sticks very ironic?

no not really judging i READ THE GODDAMN THING

[Slash 555]

People need to realize that if the music was acctually doing this to people then we would have millions and millions of cases of suicide from about every single person who listens to metal. It's not the music; it's what's wrong with the people themselves

[<Paper Cuts>]

Taylor says, "If you're setting out to hurt yourself, it's not the music that's causing it. There's something else wrong.

That's what *I've* always said.
I've always liked Slipknot, but now I like them even more

[rafa7008]

"to feel like you're the last person on Earth"

Pfft. Kids don't understand real life problems.

[John W]

Slipknots music does encourage you to self harm - its THAT bad.

[lzrdsixsix6]

Miley Cyrus makes me want to hurt myself

(now maybe she will get in trouble :])

[ReldvS]

Miley Cyrus makes me want to do things to myself but its it does not HURT.....giggiddy giggiddy :P

[kornival]

why doesnt the media talk about how slu tty pop music have and will make your teenagers horny and have kids and grow up with no self esteem or thoughts of their own and just "follow the leader" ?
metal fans do drugs. pop fans do drugs. pop fans drink. pop fans make metal fans WANT to drink. all music fans of different genre have done bad things, but metal fans get all the rap because the government doesnt want to see individuals but only conformists.

[JRowe3388]

These comments are full of stupidity.

"A GUH HUR SLIPKNOT MAKES ME HURT MYSELF CUZ THEY SUK LOL"

You all need to grow up.

[sinner_92]

if you are going to kill yourself you are going to do it wathever music you hear. No one is so stupid to kill himself just because of music. People have killed themselves far before metal arrived, it would be like saying every one who have commited suicide likes slipknot.

[TheCyanideFire]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

you should kill yourself if you like the jonas brothers :P

i can listen to jonas brothers and die from it

[Hexodrome]

I don't understand why people believe that music kills people. metal or otherwise. does anyone know who is behind these conspiricies?

[BackToTheFront]

ReldvS wrote:

let me say first off that im not really a big fan of Slipknot but what they are blaming them for is nothing new. This is the same old song and dance. No Music or Media can MAKE you do anything. Music is an expression. An art form like any other. Let me ask you this...do you think when Slipknot formed they intentionally set out to market to 4th and 5th graders? my thought is no. You are doing what you do the way you want to do it and all of a sudden people expect you to be a role model. Even though i dont like Slipknot, Cory Taylor has every right to be as dark and twisted as he wants to be. It's someone else who is responsible for harmful behavior and its a shame that anyone thinks you should be able to censor any type of creative art form. Be it hip hop or rap or metal or country or even Opera. If it offends you, DONT LISTEN TO OR READ IT. Take responsibility for you OWN actions and parents, if you want to blame someone. Start with your obviously lacking skills as a parent, some might say, A ROLE MODEL.

This.

[maz2xtreme]

It's just music. If you wanna kill yourself put some Coldplay on. That shit's depressing.

[jammy827]

how can artists be responsible for people "self" harming, hense why its caled self harm pain inflicted on yourself. has nothing to do wiht any musician unless you are one and inflicting pain on yourself.

[Marshall Lead12]

I used to listen to some emo stuff man, was hardcore loving it. Then I got into alt, then pop punk, now happy hardcore. Now I'm not self-conscience at all and I love life.

[Marshall Lead12]

maz2xtreme wrote:

It's just music. If you wanna kill yourself put some Coldplay on. That shit's depressing.

Then to any sad music, just drink a Drank and pop in some Andy McKee my brother and chilsum.

[ggggtarded]

Marshall Lead12 wrote:

maz2xtreme wrote:

It's just music. If you wanna kill yourself put some Coldplay on. That shit's depressing.

Then to any sad music, just drink a Drank and pop in some Andy McKee my brother and chilsum.

had to quote because andy mckee rules.

[kaizerkhan13]

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i really just hate this band. they act like their are so dark when they are raking in millions off this crap. their basically writing lyrics that they know panders to young kids who are unpopular in high school and it drives them further into depression. you really think these guys are upset? this is their 4th album or so and they tour in big venues, their millionairs... dont take what they say seriously and stop giving them your money

*millionaires

[l)ragonForce]

wow look at movies where the charecter in the movie commits suicide. It's the same thing this topic just needs to be dropped

[allfooie]

maximumrocker wrote:

iplayguitar666 wrote:

i like the other headline "joey jordinson sells drum sticks signed with his own blood".... but yeah dont go hurt yourself...

i saw that i loled

yes! haha

[blake561]

Isn't listening to slipknot harming yourself anyway?

[Zaveth]

Hexodrome wrote:

I don't understand why people believe that music kills people. metal or otherwise. does anyone know who is behind these conspiricies?

haha its probably the bands themselves making these stories up just to make em seem more hardcore or sumthing. haha

[killer puppy]

The_String_Man wrote:

yeah agreed! it MAY contribute at some point, we don't know for others, but metal or any heavy genre should not be blamed. i can listen to jonas brothers and kill myself.lol.

you feel that way, too?!!?

[calebrobinson1]

Tr!g wrote:

Eminem - Sing for the moment
"They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?

Dude said it first, and flame me all you want for quoting him, but its true!

This is exactly what I'm thinking. Even though some music makes you depressed, it ends up being your fault for doing the stuff you do.

[greyfox87]

lol, c'mon people, as stupid as some teenagers are, its not the musicians fault, it's there fault and the parents, so, if you hear a song that says jump out the bridge are you gonna jump out the bridge?, I do agree that some people (young or old) do in deed hurt them self o may commit suicide, but what ever decision they make, its THEIR decision, how they want to interpretate life, music, what ever, and they make bad decisions, BECAUSE they have psychological problems, just as Corey said, they just need to go out to someone for help, its totally normal in SOME DEGREE to feel that, I've been listening slipknot ever since I was 13, and here I am, totally healthy and in Law School, and I still rock to their music.

[laxjoe101]

kids need to stop cutting themselves and stop blaming people for their own problems. its kids like this that give metal music a bad name.

[lilypondkid2]

sucks bands get blamed for kids' interpretations

[palefire]

Look, this can be solved pretty easily. Which do you think is more likely;

a) A young kid going through puberty and having trouble adjusting to life, possibly suffering from family/school/social problems and maybe mental problems who feels a need to self harm hears Slipknot and their lyrics, identifies with the dark imagery and misinterprets it as an advocacy to violence towards themselves, and when bored one night trying to decide what to scratch upon his arm settles on a Slipknot logo because thats what happened to come on his iPod at the time

b) a completely well-adjusted kid who loves his family, is popular at school etc and had a perfectly normal life while listening to Justin Timberlake hears Slipknot for the first time, and by the voodoo magic of men in masks shouting over guitars, decides the only way forward in life is to dress in black and make scars on his arms.

Me? I'll go with a.

[ianmeyer68hola]

lmao.
"corey taylor says hurting yourself for slipknot is bad."
related stories:
"joey jordison hurts himself for fans of slipknot"

[WyldeMan666]

It seems to me the music is a reflection, not a cause and I think thats what coreys trying to say, nobody listenens to slipknot then decides they need to cut themselfs, cause if that was the case id cut myself everytime I listen to Hank Williams cause he's depressing as hell, the seeds for self-mutalation were planted there long before slipknot was introduced, and slipknot is the loudest target right now

[greyfox87]

lol, hey palefire, if you think the only way to go foward in life is to be a follower and be a powser like slipknot or justin timberlake you are totally wrong, music is just a matter of taste, you can hear what ever makes you rock, personally I like metal but that doesn't mean i dress in black and im an anti-social, and yeah, I am a foward thinker and a foward doer, so I pretty much think thats a very ignorant thing to say just to disqualify a music genre just because of the image, I mean, slipknot is a band that makes you just want to stand up against you're fears or life, not to run away, justin timberlake is just a guy who does music to hear or dance on clubs o bars, lol, c'mon man...

[skull78]

PEOPLE = SHIT

Fuck you all
I'm going to kill myself now!

[greyfox87]

lol, c'mon people, as stupid as some teenagers are, its not the musicians fault, it's there fault and the parents, so, if you hear a song that says jump out the bridge are you gonna jump out the bridge?, I do agree that some people (young or old) do in deed hurt them self o may commit suicide, but what ever decision they make, its THEIR decision, how they want to interpretate life, music, what ever, and they make bad decisions, BECAUSE they have psychological problems, just as Corey said, they just need to go out to someone for help, its totally normal in SOME DEGREE to feel that, I've been listening slipknot ever since I was 13, and here I am, totally healthy and in Law School, and I still rock to their music.

[dwightleach]

I think all this screaming music needs to ****in stop. Every time I hear this shit all I can think about is why do kids like this shit. You can't understand anything anybody says and it all sounds the same. Plus you get kids ****in cutting and killing themselves. This music my not be the cause of it but its sure as **** not helping. Hug a ****in rainbow mother****ers.lol

[Vedicardi]

they encourage ME to hurt MYSELF because their MUSIC IS SO BAD

[dwightleach]

to Vedicardi
lol

[isildurs_bane]

The media obviously hasn't heard of the genre:
Depressive Suicidal Black Metal

[2trouble]

palefire has hit the nail on the head. Just as when some women get dumped and wanna listen to songs about heartbreak and such, the songs dont make them depressed the experience does. So someone who is suicidal might want to listed to music which might come across as dark and have violent themes even if only vaguely implied. Crazy people come in all shapes and sizes, and with a variety of music tastes. Charles Manson was a Beatles fan - nuff said.

[metalmania616]

In London all these kids who go aroung killing each other are rap/hip hop fans. Surely as more of these people go around killing each other then it's this music people should be condemning, not metal.

[FretboardToAsh]

'Our Music Doesn't Encourage Kids To Self Harm'

yeah, apart from you know...
making people wanna stab their eardrums with a screwdriver.

[lyonk55]

Like it has been said, music only really causes these acts when people have some sort of predisposition. A black metal band for example who's lyrics (either truthfully or for shock value) promote violence is unlikely to affect your average person. For someone with depression or a violent nature, it may push them over the edge. This could apply to almost any kind of music, not just the stereotypical genres.

[Zell182]

"I push my fingers into my eeeeeyeeeees" hmm...

[murdoc66]

i admit, this is suprising.

i think what he means is "our music ISNT SUPPOSED TO encourage kdis to self arm" but obviously it does...

[munkymanmatt]

Lertz wrote:

mastadon makes me want to kill myself

then kill yourself. mastodon are frickin awseome dude.

however whenever i hear slipknot (bar a few songs) i want to kill myself. each to his own i guess...

[08L1V10N]

People cut themself to it because slipknot is an EMO band. But they try to be cool with downtuned guitars and really horrible vocals. And forget about songwriting too.

[NuclearPanda]

This is gay, very very very very very gay.
People who listen to Slipknot must have realised that they are lame and tries to kill themselves.

[Shamanic Rhythm]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

You're trying to counter one stereotype by subscribing to another. Hip hop does not cause mugging, drug use. The idea that they do is simply perpetrated by the conservative media, and strangely enough, most artists don't take to much of an objection to it. Why? Because they know that if Fox tells mummy and daddy that 50 cent is bad, then mummy and daddy will tell kid he shouldn't buy 50 cent records. And what is more appealing to youth than the urge to rebel?
I applaud the comments of Slipknot's frontman, even if I don't listen to their music.

[chipmunksurfer]

Blaming Slipknot for a kid killing himself, who happened to be a fan, is like saying someone ate a sandwich and died some time later. Would you blame the sandwich?

[odtpdriver]

people should really listen to what corey is saying, he was there and didnt kill himself. i realize that listening to this, or any other kind of music for that matter, can make you feel deprest but thats to show you there are more people like you. take it as a lesson that things can turn out alright not as a seggestion that you should end it all.

[MCRkid22]

I quote Rob Halford... "Well…do what? Mow the lawn? Have a cup of tea?"

[brycey464]

AaronianKenrod :
i hate these stupid kids that give any sort of metal a bad name. like the whole marilyn manson killing thing this week in the news, it's one person going crazy so people who don't quite understand the music are blaming the musicians. ruining it for everyone (and themselves, undoubtedly)
POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 09:31 am / quote |

Your a bloody retard!!!!! you're FREAKING BLAMING THE KIDS, FOR THAT STUFF!! I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE MUSIC'S FAULT, these kids listen to that kinda music cuz THEY FEEL THAT WAY TO START WITH!! and they don't do round frigan sayin that they cut their arm up cuz they were listening to slipknot!! You know what i hate???? i hate judgmental FAGS like you who don't have your facts straight and go round saying crap that you know nothing about!!!!! WANKER!!

[racman92]

lol. I listen to slipknot all the time. and guess what... I dont hate my self I love slipknot and other bleak metal, and when I'm pissed and I listen to it, you know how I feel? It calms me. Doesn't make me cut myself, or try to kill my self or some dumbass emo shit. I have no sympathy for anyone who thinks that ending their own life is the best option. its just stupid. Why does my favorite music have to get stuff like this on its name just cuz some kid wants attention and tries to kill him/herself. On that note, they obviously want attention. If they really wanted to kill themselves, they would have succeeded, not just attempted. Any of you out there who have said you knew someone who listened to slipknot and tried to kill themselves, tell them they're a dumbass for me, and to just get it the f*ck over with already. That is called natural selection, survival of the fittest.

[Fender700]

ilikeguitar90 :
As some people probably already said, it's not bands like Marilyn Manson and Slipknot causing kids to hurt themselves. They listen to this kind of music in the first place because they're feeling down/misunderstood or whatever, and they can relate to these bands that also seem like they are outcasts/labeled as "freaks".

I went through a lot of bullying/being made fun of in elementary/middle school, and for no reason usually to, and that kind of teasing really messes with the way people perceive others and themselves. Or at least it did in my case. That kind of stuff really messes with an impressionable kid's mental state. When my grandpa that I saw every day died when I was in 7th grade, I took a few days off school, but was still crying a bit even after returning to school. These kids found out, and only made fun of me and my dead grandpa more. Such *****s. I grew up with a lot of anger through high school because of the teasing. I loved bands like slipknot, system of a down, black sabbath, pantera, and metallica because I felt I could relate to these guys and that they understood all the shit I was going through. I didn't self harm or anything, but I definitely felt down and misunderstood a lot of the time.

wow cry about it dude. nobody wants to hear a sob story, we've all been there and there's no bigger way to be pathetic than posting your emotional breakdown story on a music site.

And let me say THANKS AGAIN to this stupid site for deleting another one of my comments. Plain and simple, slipknot are professional musicians, not a cult. corey taylor is quoted in the slipknot issue of revolver mag saying that he went thru psycological problems his whole life, cutting himself durring studio sessions. Dont tell me that was ONLY for effect. come on give the guy a break.
ANYONE who thinks slipknot is responsible for kids cutting themselves are probably the SAME people who think Manson's music was responsible for colombine.
music is music, we all interperate it differently. but DONT bash platinum (maybe even gold?) artists for doing what they love and enjoy just cause some kids took it the wrong way.

[morellostheman]

jamie_hough wrote:

No only all that (posters above) but isnt rap and hip hop broadly responsible for most street crime (or at least a part of it)? That doesnt get condmened as much as it should becuase those artists just look the same as any other douche into that sort of music - but because manson and slipknot stand out its easier to point the finger. Im sick of it, a few high schools get shot up but EVERYDAY hip hop culture is runing poples lives thorugh muggings/drugs etc etc etc... oh well

your contradicting yourelf by blaming rap but saying metal is ok. rap is not why there is street crime in the world,because there was crime efore rap. and metal is not to blame for teens cutting themelves because that was around before metal too. music is not to blame for any of the worlds problems so everyone should stop taking it so seriously and just listen to the ****ing tunes.

[kataklysmkid91]

BlitzkriegAir wrote:

i disagree. every time i listen to this music i want to kill myself

+1

[kataklysmkid91]

does any kind of metal have that kind of effect on kids to make them wanna hurt themselves? Maybe it might have something to do with it. Its a dark form of music, so you can't just rule it out. But it is not a CAUSE, its just a catalyst.

but slipknot sucks...they're untrue and all about the show instead of the real music.

Its like taking a power ballad, and rapping it with only 2 chords...not metal.

but thats just my opinion.

[kqrulz3000]

Its not the music that makes you wanna self harm or kill yourself. I self harm pretty much everyday, I actually got pretty drunk last night and tried to kill myself lol. But that wasnt down to the music i was listening to. Music always seems to pep me up, make me feel less shitty. I wish tabloids would stop attacking bands over stupid things like this when they obviously have no part in it

[kmister]

Wow shit full on above dude.

I always use to bag Slipknot but then i gave them a listening to and some of there stuff is really good, there great musical talents, it isnt easy to play with lots of people at once. Although I appreciate there work I'm no Maggot. Music can't really influence you to kill you'r self i mean do any of there lyrics clearly state 'F***ing hang you'r self you faggy little outcast'? When I watch MTV and the show fineshes and then inbetween shows they play these awful no boddy hip hop rappers saying typical lyrics fast and using Classic rock chord progressions with fancy techno stuff over the top. Any way my point is, dont blame slipknot they have done nothing wrong, just try to appreciate that the music is origonal and better than most of the new Gn'R stuff and aslo most of Met's new Death Magnet.

[Selig_Free]

Impossible! I just gained 200 respect points for Corey.

[brycey464]

What the hell???? whats up with all you frigerz saying that "these emo kids are giving metal a bad name"????? they listen to metal and such, cuz thats how they feel!!! they hurt themselves, cuz thats how they feel!! self halm is a cry for help, or a way to be able to heal!! if the emotional pain is to great, they revert to hurting themself cuz it makes them feel like they can actually heal, or fix something!!! so all you who are saying that crap, F**K you!!! you don't know what your talking about!! You CLEARLY have never felt how these kids have felt before, so stop bull-s**ting about stuff you don't anything about!!!! and don't say i wouldn't know, i'm 16, and my g/f is battling with self harm, so EFF OFF!!!

[Metalhed4life]

Good I hate how emo kids are just cutting themselves in the name of their favorite band. I listen to slipknot all the time and I'm not compelled to do anything like that!!! Grow Up!!

[THE_NEXT_ROOT]

bravo corey. there is good beneith the mask