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System Of A Down To Reunite At Eurovision 2009? |
| artist: system of a down |
date: 08/15/2008 |
category: general music news |
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World renowned Armenian-American rock band System Of A Down has expressed interest in representing Armenia in next year's Eurovision song contest to be hosted in Russia.
Serj Tankian, the group's lead singer, recently said that the group would consider performing in Eurovision only if they would be allowed to use Eurovision as a means to advance the recognition of the Armenian Genocide.
" Eurovision would be an excellent way to make this theme known. We must seriously think of this." Tankian said.
System Of A Down, which has been advocating for Armenian Genocide recognition since its early garage band days is noted for the liberal political views expressed in their songs. The band's music tackles a myriad subjects including War, corruption, religion, drug use, censorship, human rights violations, and Genocide.
Thanks for the info to Hayemyes.com.
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end_citizen
: I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:14 am / quote |
Mootallica
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
I agree with that, but still, I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:20 am / quote |
smb
: Yeah...they might re-unite at Eurovision or they might sprout wings and fly to the moon. They're about equally likely, I'd guess.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:47 am / quote |
Henkdemachtige
: smb wrote:
Yeah...they might re-unite at Eurovision or they might sprout wings and fly to the moon. They're about equally likely, I'd guess. |
-1
no, not really, because if you read the article you know its not equally the same.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:03 am / quote |
Absent Mind
: Arnt they a little too famous to play Eurovision?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:29 am / quote |
Metallicaloveu
: This wouls be amazing but as usual the title isn't too accurate. I miss system so much.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:31 am / quote |
Disposable-Hero
: Haha, this would be great. Mostly because it's full of nobody's who play crappy love songs or cheesy pop music and then on step SOAD. Lol.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:34 am / quote |
Magic_Joel
: They'd seem a little out of place at eurovision, considering what the acts are usually like.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:34 am / quote |
olithebass
: SOAD at eurovision!
that beats Lordi winning afew years ago
if only they were English then we might get afew points.. POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:39 am / quote |
Adz2706
: Haha, that would be greatPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:41 am / quote |
Beanie_Ben
: olithebass wrote:
SOAD at eurovision!
that beats Lordi winning afew years ago
if only they were English then we might get afew points.. |
we'd never get points even if they were! were just the ones who pay for the contest, hence why despite finishing last god knows how many times were still in it.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:42 am / quote |
Viva-la-mark
: I would ****in love that man!
I hope they do it POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:42 am / quote |
dgme92
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
Well again, you could see it that way or you could see it as the ideal platform for their return, being so wrapped up in rights and all that. Maybe a protest or something, who knows?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:45 am / quote |
hairypineapple
: Hahahahaha! They'd blow the balls off all the other entries!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:54 am / quote |
dann_blood
: This would be a tad unfair on the other contestants.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:11 am / quote |
TBezza
: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME....EVEN IF IT WAS SHIT (UNLIKELY) THAT WOULD STILL BE AWESOME, most eurovision is shit, give em a bit of heavy rock and I'd vote for it. :PPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:18 am / quote |
Deflection
: That would be ****ing funny. One of the world's most famous bands in Eurovision. Hilarious. Hope it happens.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:26 am / quote |
kosmic
: dann_blood wrote:
This would be a tad unfair on the other contestants. |
+1.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:26 am / quote |
littleleo88
: they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:28 am / quote |
Black Hole Sun
: Aren't they American though... I'm not sure on the rules of where contestants, but I think only one of them was born in what's now considered the Republic of Armenia, and I'm not sure if any of them have lived there.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:28 am / quote |
Black Hole Sun
: Sorry for double post, but...
littleleo88 wrote:
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!? | Stop whining about genocide?! What the **** are you talking about?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:29 am / quote |
m
: checked.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:32 am / quote |
grille
: it dosent mather i belive. they just end up spliting up againPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:43 am / quote |
UncleCthulhu
: Black Hole Sun wrote:
Stop whining about genocide?! What the **** are you talking about? |
He's talking about the fact that they've already made the genocide common knowledge and that they're using it as an excuse to squeeze more money out of their "armchair rebel" fans.
They wouldn't be allowed to do Eurovision anyway.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:44 am / quote |
Necrosaber
: Old news..
I'd love to see them play once again, but not at Eurovision. That thing is a clown show.
POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:55 am / quote |
sykguitaryst
: i love system, favorite band, but they should go to hell. quittin on me, im still pissed about that. i say take a different approach, no ones gonna take any of their retarded songs seriously anyway, im one of their biggest fans and i dont take anything they say seriously rofl.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:57 am / quote |
scorpiusdiamond
: Eurovision's become so twisted as of late, it's not just a pop contest anymore. Although the Georgian invasion may prove a factor in the Eastern Bloc voting... I doubt System would lose. Armenia came 4th this year.
It depends however, if Eurovision don't want to piss off Turkey :PPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:09 am / quote |
scorpiusdiamond
: littleleo88 wrote:
they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!? |
From the ANCA emails I'm getting, yes, they're pushing through things in the Senate and Congress to get it recognised in America. It already is where I live (Wales). Look up the film 'Screamers', System play a huge part in it.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:11 am / quote |
Korzack
: Mootallica wrote:
end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.
I agree with that, but still, I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it. |
Maybe, but how many people actually pay attention to it?
And why wouldn't they be allowed to do it? France pulled off torturing us with Celine Fucking Dion, so why not?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:18 am / quote |
Marlux102
: sykguitaryst wrote:
i love system, favorite band, but they should go to hell. quittin on me, im still pissed about that. i say take a different approach, no ones gonna take any of their retarded songs seriously anyway, im one of their biggest fans and i dont take anything they say seriously rofl. |
then you arent one of their biggest fans, then are ya? and they didnt quit on you, they took a indefinate HIATUS, total difference really.
anyways, it'd be awesome if they got back together, but i dont think this would be the place to do it. nor the time, Serj and Daron/John just came out with their solo albums so it'd be pretty pointless.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:22 am / quote |
str84ever
: Beanie_Ben wrote:
olithebass wrote:
SOAD at eurovision!
that beats Lordi winning afew years ago
if only they were English then we might get afew points..
we'd never get points even if they were! were just the ones who pay for the contest, hence why despite finishing last god knows how many times were still in it. |
It's because the countries vote for their neighbouring countries so they have good relations.
Like look who they all vote for Finland would vote for Norway and Sweden and Iceland. Something like that.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:41 am / quote |
ImagineTheThorn
: Yes, they are making the Armenian Genocide known, but that is only part of what they are trying to do. They are trying to get Turkey to finally admit that they did it.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:58 am / quote |
Alex101
: I've got a feeling this ain't gonna happen.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:03 am / quote |
jjaw
: This isn't going to happen. If you visit this site regularly you'll know, malakian has said that he and the drummer would NOT join in a SOAD re-union if serj were to try runiting them POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:06 am / quote |
sottpwn
: That would be the most hilarious thing ever.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:07 am / quote |
[x]Huffy[x]
: jjaw wrote:
This isn't going to happen. If you visit this site regularly you'll know, malakian has said that he and the drummer would NOT join in a SOAD re-union if serj were to try runiting them |
No he didn't. SOAD haven't split up anyway, they're on hiatus. Bands on hiatus do not have reunions, as they are still a band.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:14 am / quote |
Black Hole Sun
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
Black Hole Sun wrote:
Stop whining about genocide?! What the **** are you talking about?
He's talking about the fact that they've already made the genocide common knowledge and that they're using it as an excuse to squeeze more money out of their "armchair rebel" fans.
They wouldn't be allowed to do Eurovision anyway. | The aim was to get it acknowledged as a genocide, which still hasn't happened.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:17 am / quote |
metalmania616
: Wouldn't it be a bit unfair? I mean the only chance anyone else would have of winning would be if, say either Cream or Iron Maide entered for England, Gary Moore for Ireland, etc, etc. Now that would be worth watching.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:27 am / quote |
Alex101
: metalmania616 wrote:
Wouldn't it be a bit unfair? I mean the only chance anyone else would have of winning would be if, say either Cream or Iron Maide entered for England, Gary Moore for Ireland, etc, etc. Now that would be worth watching. |
Or The Offspring or Metallica entered for North America, Rammstein for Germany, Opeth for Sweden or Led Zeppelin for England.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:31 am / quote |
djjiles
: Why aren't Australian bands allowed? so racist.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:43 am / quote |
djjiles
: in case you thought i was seriousPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:43 am / quote |
CalisAlfírin
: I don't think it's going to happen. There's a rule in the Eurovision Song Contest against political messages, and singing about a genocide that the people who did it still denies would be very political.
But if SOAD enters I'm definitely for the first time going to actually vote!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:45 am / quote |
Airdevil
: Alex101 wrote:
metalmania616 wrote:
Wouldn't it be a bit unfair? I mean the only chance anyone else would have of winning would be if, say either Cream or Iron Maide entered for England, Gary Moore for Ireland, etc, etc. Now that would be worth watching.
Or The Offspring or Metallica entered for North America, Rammstein for Germany, Opeth for Sweden or Led Zeppelin for England. |
Since when was america a part of EUROPE!?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:49 am / quote |
Airdevil
: djjiles wrote:
Why aren't Australian bands allowed? so racist. |
Again.... since when was AUSTRALIA a part of EUROPE?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:50 am / quote |
m
: checked
and bands don't necessarily have to be from the country they represent in the eurovisionPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:02 pm / quote |
DopeDanny
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
they would cause they got the balls to do it lol they would make up a killer song about it too most likelyPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:03 pm / quote |
Baconfish
: djjiles wrote:
in case you thought i was serious |
It's ok, australian isn't a race anyway. :PPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:14 pm / quote |
voodoochilli499
: I always thought Eurovison was for smaller internationally unknown bands. Like ABBA.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:15 pm / quote |
henkka_potku
: oh god yes! then In Flames from sweden, COB from Finland etc.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:17 pm / quote |
Aramis
: If this happens... I will be voting for Armenia, because I can't see anyone topping them.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:20 pm / quote |
Mayngel
: Korzack wrote:
Mootallica wrote:
end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.
I agree with that, but still, I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it.
Maybe, but how many people actually pay attention to it?
And why wouldn't they be allowed to do it? France pulled off torturing us with Celine Fucking Dion, so why not? |
FYI Céline Dion is not actually French, she's Canadian ey...POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
sebbsmith
: Just when I thought Eurovision couldn't get any worse.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
radioplay
: oh man that would be amazing,i love SOAD.Whether this is true or not,i cant wait for their reunion...POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
radioplay
: 'The band's music tackles a myriad subjects including War, corruption, religion, drug use, censorship, human rights violations, and Genocide.'
also pizza,pogo sticks,and NabiscoPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:33 pm / quote |
SkullSplitter92
: This would be great, but I don't see it happening.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 12:37 pm / quote |
Blind Messiah
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
Is there really a more potent way to express an endorsement for human rights than to stand in opposition of an entire world power? The subtext of their statement on the Armenian genocide would also make a subtle but powerful statement on the civilians of Georgia being slaughtered by Russian soldiers.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:00 pm / quote |
imthehitcher
: | Aren't they American though... I'm not sure on the rules of where contestants, but I think only one of them was born in what's now considered the Republic of Armenia, and I'm not sure if any of them have lived there. |
you don't need to be born somewhere to hold citizenship
POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:03 pm / quote |
Jondy
: Henkdemachtige wrote:
smb wrote:
Yeah...they might re-unite at Eurovision or they might sprout wings and fly to the moon. They're about equally likely, I'd guess.
-1
no, not really, because if you read the article you know its not equally the same. |
hey this is soad we're talking about. if they really wanted to maybe they could sprout wings and fly to the moon. and if there was some way flying to the moon would increase awareness of the armenian genocide, who's gonna stop em?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:10 pm / quote |
Captain Penguin
: SOAD at Eurovision? they are so much better than that.
Eurovision is shitPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:12 pm / quote |
matalliam
: they would easily win it because of their fame on a worldwide range, but a lot of the voting is all political anyway, if a country dislikes another its obvious they aren't gonna vote for each other so they vote for their allies instead. the whole thing sucks anyways, but it is funny to laugh at how bad some countries musicians are.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:26 pm / quote |
PLOP
: Great idea if they wanna make a point.
Which they do.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:28 pm / quote |
drummerdawg77
: AWESOME!
i was so sad when SOAD split up, thank god i got to see them in concert before they did. BEST concert ive ever been to, they're amazing live.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:32 pm / quote |
ECwomantoneman
: Great idea. I think Turkey should finally taste a bit of their own medicine after many years of hiding behind the USA as a "bastion" of Western "Democracy"POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:34 pm / quote |
mitch rite
: These headlines all seem to have a question mark after them. is this ultimate-rumours.com?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:34 pm / quote |
markojuo
: dont care cus I hate SOAD, am just hoping that Finland pulls out another trump card like Lordi (which i dont even like at all in the first place but whatever) instead of that bullshit we had this year.
I mean you gotta admit, Lordi sucks, no one in their right minds listens to that in their free time, but the second I saw that performance, I noticed that it completely raped the lame pop songs and dancing idiots from other countries.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:36 pm / quote |
Xeus
: joke right?????POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:41 pm / quote |
ComradSputnik
: Lol I bet Turkey won't give them any points :d POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:43 pm / quote |
seijo_hxc
: WTF???!!! eurovision sucks btwPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:46 pm / quote |
KickOutTheJamsX
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
Why..? They wouldn't be doing it for Russia, they would be doing it for Eurovision and spreading their own messages.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:58 pm / quote |
C1osur3
: Baconfish wrote:
djjiles wrote:
in case you thought i was serious
It's ok, australian isn't a race anyway. :P |
Lol. That's like calling American a race.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 01:59 pm / quote |
TheCondors
: im from texas, the best state in the world, and i have never heard of this eurovision. but then again it might be because i am to busy, making love to farm animals, to notice.
sounds neat though. fyi jokes are funPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:00 pm / quote |
TimMech
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
Not Russia start first. Georgia start to kill inisent people.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:09 pm / quote |
SaviourMachine
: Eurovision owns actually and this seemingly unlikely event would make it even more badass.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:22 pm / quote |
guitaringnathan
: TheCondors wrote:
im from texas, the best state in the world, and i have never heard of this eurovision. but then again it might be because i am to busy, making love to farm animals, to notice.
sounds neat though. fyi jokes are fun |
+1
but i am little tired of politics in music because they all seem to republicans(i dont think we're bad people)POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:27 pm / quote |
Year Zero
: Great band, but I doubt it Darron is doing really well with Scars on Broadway.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:28 pm / quote |
FulmetalAlkemis
: where can i see this eurovision sounds stupid but i want to see where soad is going/maybe ditch it and yeah make some more music!! POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:43 pm / quote |
SylKain
: Unfortunately the Eurovision thing is kind of doomed from the beginning really. This has definitely become the most jaded musical showcase in the world where the audience will probably vote them off right away because they are ugly or noisy or whatever. If they had thought of this some years ago, went there dressed in the most freakish way (like in their early days) they could have had a chance to perform more than once and get to say something...but Lordi beat them and the freak thing is not working that much. POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:46 pm / quote |
ptr362
: I can't see SOAD doing this, although i could imagine some of the members doing it under a different name, and possibly a different style. It would be good to see though, maybe they can break the record amount of votes Lordi got (not sure if it's been beaten since mind)POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:49 pm / quote |
m
: *checked*POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 02:56 pm / quote |
xXChimairaXx
: guitaringnathan wrote:
TheCondors wrote:
im from texas, the best state in the world, and i have never heard of this eurovision. but then again it might be because i am to busy, making love to farm animals, to notice.
sounds neat though. fyi jokes are fun
+1
but i am little tired of politics in music because they all seem to republicans(i dont think we're bad people) |
yeah i agree, and im neither. if the message was towards the lefties, then the demorats would get all butt hurt and start whining.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:08 pm / quote |
xXChimairaXx
: guitaringnathan wrote:
TheCondors wrote:
im from texas, the best state in the world, and i have never heard of this eurovision. but then again it might be because i am to busy, making love to farm animals, to notice.
sounds neat though. fyi jokes are fun
+1
but i am little tired of politics in music because they all seem to republicans(i dont think we're bad people) |
yeah i agree, and im neither. if the message was towards the lefties, then the demorats would get all butt hurt and start whining.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:08 pm / quote |
dvd_dq
: for the better of humanity
do it to itPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:17 pm / quote |
ShadowPitch
: Absent Mind wrote:
Arnt they a little too famous to play Eurovision? |
+1
& itjsut depends on who lets them play the eurovision. POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:18 pm / quote |
HauntedxGeetar
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
Black Hole Sun wrote:
Stop whining about genocide?! What the **** are you talking about?
He's talking about the fact that they've already made the genocide common knowledge and that they're using it as an excuse to squeeze more money out of their "armchair rebel" fans.
They wouldn't be allowed to do Eurovision anyway. |
And yet System of a Down chose to go in hiatus at the very peak of their popularity rather than going further with the band. I highly doubt this has to do with the money.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |
bcrichguitars12
: they to pull there head out of there self-righteous ass. I agree with a lot of there political view but most of there current song worry move about preaching that entertaining and they expect me to care the they are on "hiatus". They could stay broken up forever as long as serj doesn't try to releasing any more CDs like that last pile of shit that some how got out of the studioPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:31 pm / quote |
Lasagne
: Haha, I think this whole thing started when a Finnish reporter suggested Serj (who performed in Finland this summer) to attend Eurovision. He meant it as a joke, though, but it appears that Serj took it seriously It would be cool, Armenia would get my vote!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:33 pm / quote |
Aaron_Yeo
: mitch rite wrote:
These headlines all seem to have a question mark after them. is this ultimate-rumours.com? |
It is...?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:37 pm / quote |
ICE_9_KILLS
: It would be cool, but the real challenge would be getting Daron to attend and play with System, not Scars.
POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:38 pm / quote |
phenom1991
: I wonder what "political" message "Fuck the system" has POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:42 pm / quote |
Mr. Skull
: They'll never advancde anything unless they actually write serious songs, not bizarre crap with political words thrown in.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 03:49 pm / quote |
ratmblink123
: Mr. Skull wrote:
They'll never advancde anything unless they actually write serious songs, not bizarre crap with political words thrown in. |
They do have serious songs. You just have to get past the bizarre stuff to notice it. It's called symbolism.
And if System reunites, they better televise the performance, or even put it online. Maybe if they reunite for one show, it'll be like Rage Against the Machine, and they'll go on a tour, and maybe release another album. That'd be sweet.
But SO unlikely.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 04:02 pm / quote |
asfastasdark
: Oh my ****ing god, this is amazing I can't believe it! If only this would come true!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 04:02 pm / quote |
Guitar Monkey
: | I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it. |
And if not, then at least the voter will finally vote on the music and not on 'Guess which country has the most nukes!'POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 04:16 pm / quote |
Poxican
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in the US after Iraq, Vietnam etc. etc. etcPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 04:28 pm / quote |
guitaringsailor
: Soad in the eurovision... that's not quite right to me... but i hope they win if they participatePOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 04:52 pm / quote |
steve.bond7
: they should allow bigger bands to perform in the eurovision, i hope SOAD perform next year, it'll be a better show to watch!
and if SOAD does perform, i hope other countries like finland, germany etc. use their wider known bands to perform. it would be a better showPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:12 pm / quote |
MonsterOfRock
: Of all the corny song contests in the universe, why Eurovision?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:20 pm / quote |
GunSlinger_a7x
: idk why they keep going on about this IF stuff about SOAD "reuniting"
they never broke up
just took a break.
serj said himself in an interview, that it would be a while, but that soad WOULD start playing again,POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:22 pm / quote |
.Will.
: This would be horrible, they are a very famous band. I don't think their fans would want to see them reunited at such a crappy event.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:45 pm / quote |
HotDogs1
: who cares if they win some stupid contest all that matters is that they blow the listeners minds and make every country hate turkey POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:45 pm / quote |
bcrichguitars12
: YamiJoey wrote:
bcrichguitars12: Shut up. If you don't like it, why post here? Gtfo my internet space. ¬_¬
I | lol Why have a comeback when you can just swear. WTFOMGBBQ?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 05:56 pm / quote |
ravenouscabbage
: holy crap! during the last eurovision i was just thinking about how cool it would be if this happened!
weird...POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:02 pm / quote |
psychogrunge1
: To all the stupid rednecks brainwashed by the corrupted US news agencies:South Osetia has been part of Georgia for ages,now S.O. want to split and become an independent country and Russia support them.Georgia,being controlled by the puppet US regime(brougt there by the so-called "revolution" completely paid by the US government - and that's proved),obviously,denies this,because USA want to surround Russia with as many military bases as possible.USA are freakishly scared watching Russia proudly surviving the hell of the '90-ies(mostly created artificially by the USA) and rising from their knees back to power again - that's why they are spreading tons of bullshit about Russia,getting people paranoid about Russia,picturing Russia as the ultimate aggressor and the enemy of the worldwide democracy.And you,stupid ****s,swallow it and try to show yourself off as if you all possessed profound knowledge about things back there and politics in general.All the people killed there are South Osetians,about 2000 of them,Georgian side:almost no casualties.How could that happen,smart asses,if Russia started this,ah?I tell you how:Georgia got a signal from the US government to create some turmoil and provoke Russia to start fire(Russia suppots South Osetia and backs them up with piecemaker troops),but Georgia misinterpreted the signal or went back too far when they tasted the smell of blood(although South Osetia has been part of Georgia for ages,Georgian and Osetian people never co-existed peacefully),Georgian soldiers started slaughtering Osetian people,and when they realised they had gone over the limit it was too late - too many innocent people had been killed!That's why now they(backed up by the US propaghanda) are covering themselves with lies about Russia starting it first,being anti-democratic,coming back to USSR times and so on.BULLSHIT!USA sucks so much,there is so much hypocrisy here and so little democracy(actually none at all).I've lived half of my life in USSR,but the amount of propghanda we were showered with dosn't even come close to that you all are getting here!There so many good people here,but your government and your foreign policy are the most corrupted in the world,and the saddest thing is that they are the most powerful!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:20 pm / quote |
psychogrunge1
: The fourteenth line from the top:there shouldn't be the word "back" there,should read "went too far".POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:24 pm / quote |
IamGod 666
: greasysweet wrote:
WHAT IS GENOCIDE?! |
The killing of a group of people that are targeted for alike reasons. I think.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:25 pm / quote |
IamGod 666
: psychogrunge1 wrote:
To all the stupid rednecks brainwashed by the corrupted US news agencies:South Osetia has been part of Georgia for ages,now S.O. want to split and become an independent country and Russia support them.Georgia,being controlled by the puppet US regime(brougt there by the so-called "revolution" completely paid by the US government - and that's proved),obviously,denies this,because USA want to surround Russia with as many military bases as possible.USA are freakishly scared watching Russia proudly surviving the hell of the '90-ies(mostly created artificially by the USA) and rising from their knees back to power again - that's why they are spreading tons of bullshit about Russia,getting people paranoid about Russia,picturing Russia as the ultimate aggressor and the enemy of the worldwide democracy.And you,stupid ****s,swallow it and try to show yourself off as if you all possessed profound knowledge about things back there and politics in general.All the people killed there are South Osetians,about 2000 of them,Georgian side:almost no casualties.How could that happen,smart asses,if Russia started this,ah?I tell you how:Georgia got a signal from the US government to create some turmoil and provoke Russia to start fire(Russia suppots South Osetia and backs them up with piecemaker troops),but Georgia misinterpreted the signal or went back too far when they tasted the smell of blood(although South Osetia has been part of Georgia for ages,Georgian and Osetian people never co-existed peacefully),Georgian soldiers started slaughtering Osetian people,and when they realised they had gone over the limit it was too late - too many innocent people had been killed!That's why now they(backed up by the US propaghanda) are covering themselves with lies about Russia starting it first,being anti-democratic,coming back to USSR times and so on.BULLSHIT!USA sucks so much,there is so much hypocrisy here and so little democracy(actually none at all).I've lived half of my life in USSR,but the amount of propghanda we were showered with dosn't even come close to that you all are getting here!There so many good people here,but your government and your foreign policy are the most corrupted in the world,and the saddest thing is that they are the most powerful! |
Wrong about the democracy in the US. Hmm both georgia and Russia were left out of nato. interesting stuff... Coincidence?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:29 pm / quote |
slipmaggot93
: Poxican wrote:
end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in the US after Iraq, Vietnam etc. etc. etc |
this.
if they do play, i want them to be so good that my ears fall off.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
CrvIzGuz'ce
: Would anyone listen to the message they're sending? And all of the crap that was winning all the time is only some stupid pop songs anyway, they probably wouldn't win because they aren't wearing some stupid masks, or not being female, having huge tits and wiggling butts around like some cheap *****s! They probably won't even be allowed because they're singing about something that actually matters... And didn't that Norwegian song on the last Eurovision just a little bit like Soldier Side (full one, of course)?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:08 pm / quote |
m
: Checked...POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:13 pm / quote |
mikelb7
: this just makes me scratch my head. i thought music was first and foremost about MUSIC not politics. i am very aware of the armenian genocide and i have seen Serj's film "screamers" too. i am not saying "enough is enough about genocide," all i am saying is for a band to reunite to push a political cause as the primary reason for reuniting is, in my very humble opinion, missing the point. when bands go on hiatus like SOAD, it's usually because they still have a lot left to contribute and accomplish, just not under the circumstances that brought the band to fame. and i feel thats really smart, instead of writing 3 shitty records and a best-of to fulfill a contract and fill bank accounts, they all decided to take some time off and literally "get fresh" before they all went insane writing/touring/playing with the same 4 people for too many years over. instead of making system last 3 more years, they kept the legacy alive for much much longer. even though the genocide is something that everyone must know about and even though its very near and dear to the members of system, i cant help but feel that a MUSICal reunion should be focused solely on the music. instead of "lets get together and rock out so everyone hears our cause," it should be "lets get together and ****ing rock. period."
but then again thats just what i think, and what the **** do i know?POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:21 pm / quote |
PedophilePriest
: So they're not an American band... they're an "Armenian" American band.
GTFOH.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:24 pm / quote |
Echoplex
: Metallicaloveu wrote:
This wouls be amazing but as usual the title isn't too accurate. I miss system so much. |
these titles are never accuratePOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:48 pm / quote |
dupaman
: thatd be sweet if they did play thoughPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 07:49 pm / quote |
siraustin
: seekmetal wrote:
why dont soad just do us a favour and make it illegal to buy or play thier shitty music? (flame shield up) |
hey man! that's not cool. NOT COOL!POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 08:34 pm / quote |
Bondie_frost
: I really doubt that system will get bak together next year, i mean they will one day get bak together but not then. i just find it hard wen serj will probs workin on his solo career some more, darron and john have just realesed scars on broadway so it will be stressful working with 2 bands at once and shavos doin wat eva he is doin.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:00 pm / quote |
Ash on fires
: Lol its lame that they would hold their music ransom for something like that. They are just using their fame to sell cheap-ass music.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:02 pm / quote |
voodoochilli499
: Psycho Pigeon wrote:
What the **** are people saying, it was Georgia's fault the whole conflict started, Good on Russia for protecting the state.
Are you shitting me??? Georgia is like... the size of Georgia, USA. Russia spans all the time zones.
And did you hear that the bombs had anti-american/anti-NATO messages inscribed on them?
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Really? Russia spans ALL the time zones? Thats incredible!! And you mean when people went around and collected all the pieces of the bombs and placed them back together, they found anti-nato, anti-US messages? I bet they were in the true language of god, weren't they?
And I really don't think SOAD should or will do this.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 09:09 pm / quote |
SOADriff
: This would be horrible, they are a very famous band. I don't think their fans would want to see them reunited at such a crappy event.
LMAO, i dont think you realise how desperate we are for a reunion my friend. we would kill for ANYTHING!
chances are this wont happen though, i mean comeon, they only just kicked off with their solo albums, and daron and serj have said they will make another one in 2009. it would be AWESOME if they did however and hopefully it would make people know about the topic (if they can actually understand what they are saying, which is difficult,lol)POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:12 pm / quote |
SOADriff
: sorry how i stuffed up that quote theirPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:12 pm / quote |
mortengh
: eurovision wtf, not a single person with balls have ever entered this lame contestPOSTED: 08/15/2008 - 10:49 pm / quote |
bluelegato
: They may not approve of what happened with Georgia, but I think getting people to recognize the Armenian Genocide is more important to them.POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 11:33 pm / quote |
alex~~34
: chino el perro wrote:
SOAD RULEZ NOOBS !!!!! |
DAMN STRAIGHT \m/POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 12:11 am / quote |
Josh Shiells
: Hmm...
...I, personally, have been listening to System for about a decade now, and have really enjoyed 'Elect the Dead' and 'Scars on Broadway'.
People need to stop trying to pass off gossip as news. Daron Malakian and John Dolmayan have not said they're quitting System of a Down, or that there will be no reunion. He's merely stated that he's focusing on Scars on Broadway for the time being.
I think that, if they do play it, it'll be a great way to spread the awareness of the Armenian Genocide.
A large part of the world still don't recognise it, and I think they'd have a great chance of winning.
And for all the 'fans' that have been bitching about thier hiatus, they should be happy - some people may recall interviews and articles around the net last year in which they said they could be gone until around 2010.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 01:21 am / quote |
Grif22
: Mootallica wrote:
end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.
I agree with that, but still, I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it. |
not just the large audience, but there's no reason they can't bring up the Russia V Georgia conflict too, also, by next year it will probably all be forgotten.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 01:56 am / quote |
pinky_demon
: Wow...they just need to hurry up and get back together :[POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 02:19 am / quote |
RUSTDOGG666
: system of a down should get back together because they're side projects suck. they're better together than separated.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 02:49 am / quote |
Vlad89
: Stop believing the pro-Georgian propaganda! Georgian forces were the first ones to attack Russian peacekeepers and innocent civilians (Who have Russian passports) of the autonomous region South Ossetia.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 03:01 am / quote |
Josh Shiells
: RUSTDOGG666 wrote:
system of a down should get back together because they're side projects suck. they're better together than separated. |
Their side projects do not suck.
You're narrow minded and biased.
Daron could make a song with nothing but a C powerchord, and I'd wager it'd be infinitely better than anything you could ever do.
And learn proper grammar.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 03:15 am / quote |
Strausser33
: yea they need to get back kinda miss the crazy riffs from daron and the outspoken messages from serj
still think scars is a joke compared to elect the deadPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 04:39 am / quote |
megadethdefying
: ok,
1.) no a billion people do not watch eurovision. its half that cos a billion people is quite a few.
2.) they are not too famous, i think cliff richard is more famous than SOAD, no?
3.) doesn't matter where they're from, the rules are very lax - metallica could represent France if they really wanted
i'm sure someones said all these already BUT ican't be arsed to read every single comment!! POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 05:02 am / quote |
punkrockjoe
: I love it how all these awesome political bands end up re-uniting because they feel strongly for a cause and realise they can make more impact bringing the band back, not that i'm complaining, it's all good.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 05:35 am / quote |
ilovepancakez
: If they do eurovision there would be a reason to acually watch it!!!POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 06:40 am / quote |
TheNthDimension
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
He's talking about the fact that they've already made the genocide common knowledge and that they're using it as an excuse to squeeze more money out of their "armchair rebel" fans.
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And yet, Turkey still doesn't recognise the genocide. Why should they stop if they care about it?
I get that we disagree about whether they *genuinely* care or not, and that's fine. A lot of bands do that, and while I don't personally think SOAD is one, that could just be me.
But "squeezing more money" out of their fans? How is Eurovision getting money from their fans?
I like their music, so I bought their albums and THEN found out about their political agenda. Which is how it should be, in my opinion.
POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 07:40 am / quote |
TheNthDimension
: Also, I forgot to say this would be awesome, and I hope Armenia has the sense to do this (especially after Britain turned down Bill Bailey)... keep hoping...POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 07:41 am / quote |
Moshmom
: im really not botherd, as long as they play near me and i have tix
POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 07:49 am / quote |
m
: Checked!POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 08:35 am / quote |
AngelWolf
: so that eurovision.. i recon armenia or finland will win... hehehehehehehe .. good for them.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 10:06 am / quote |
alexw1020
: To me, Eurovision sounds like a "Battle of the Bands" kind of competition you would have between a lot of non-professional groups. Wouldn't SOAD be ineligible because they have albums out?POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 10:33 am / quote |
adrienmn
: Oh my god ! The Eurovision is such a stupid contest, It will be great the see Soad Reunite for this !! it will be fun to hear them sing stuff like 'genocide genocide genocide ohhhhh !!!! turkey liers " they are gonna make such a mess it's gonna be awesome (I've got nothing against turkish people , I love them as I love armenia )
Most of the time you see stupid boys band playing in playback it' so bad ! Hope SOAD reunite soon , serj tankian and SOB are so good bandsPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 10:47 am / quote |
arnob_oblique
: littleleo88 wrote:
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!? |
huh? POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 11:07 am / quote |
siraustin
: I'd just like to see them together anywhere. I don't care how shitty the event. Was Eurovision that contest that the guy who does Land of Confusion was at last year by the way?POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 11:46 am / quote |
rockstaraxe
: eurovision? hmmm i watch it but system of a down can do better!
although lordie were on it...who knowsPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 11:58 am / quote |
guitaringnathan
: Josh Shiells wrote:
RUSTDOGG666 wrote:
system of a down should get back together because they're side projects suck. they're better together than separated.
Their side projects do not suck.
You're narrow minded and biased.
Daron could make a song with nothing but a C powerchord, and I'd wager it'd be infinitely better than anything you could ever do.
And learn proper grammar. |
wow, now we are bashing people with opinions who stated them fairly, im confused???!!!
and to all the people saying that US is spreading propaganda, hasn't russia been doing that as well, how do you know you haven't been listening to the russian propaganda(i dont really know what im talking about by the way, just a really boring day.) POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
God_Of_Thunder
: i hope they do get back together, ive never been the biggest system fan, i do like them a little bit, but if something better is on a different radio station, or i have a cd id rather be listening to, i wouldnt hesitate to switch, but i do dig some system tunes, but i gotta say, i saw serj tankian at ozzfest and it blew big munky balls. without the rest of SOAD, serj is just a horrible singer....POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 01:08 pm / quote |
offspring_freak
: i hope they go there, world need to know better about armenian genocide, i have a friend there.
damn turks.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 01:31 pm / quote |
theexampleguy
: Absent Mind wrote:
Arnt they a little too famous to play Eurovision? | does it matter?POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 01:59 pm / quote |
Alpha_Wolf
: Excuse my noobness, but I don't even know what Eurovision is.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 03:41 pm / quote |
reelbigfish432
: i dont think theyd let system play eurovision because theyd blatantly win, and are already too popularPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 04:10 pm / quote |
Tedward
: radioplay wrote:
'The band's music tackles a myriad subjects including War, corruption, religion, drug use, censorship, human rights violations, and Genocide.'
also pizza,pogo sticks,and Nabisco |
LMFAO you got a point there
I dont care about Eurovision but them getting back to play a show might open there eyes about what they had going for them. They just need time to rekindle their friendships lmfao but ya a reunion would be hecticPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 04:31 pm / quote |
Tedward
: wow theres an add for meeting single Armenian girls at the top of the pagePOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 04:32 pm / quote |
Notoriousdoc
: Now I've got to the bottom of the comments I've completely forgotten what the article was about.
I think it would be awesome.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 07:14 pm / quote |
One.
: Imagine maiden at Eurovision, that might give me a reason to watch it, and other people a reason to vote for us.POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 08:33 pm / quote |
reignofrock
: System have gone to total shit musically, their songs are now retarded and illorchestrated. SOAD should just officially break up POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 08:50 pm / quote |
haugan
: this cant be serious? the eurovision songcontest is a miserable and boring contest which i hope anyone with their mind clear never would even bother to spend time on. believe me, this is bullshit! why should a world-known band with hundreds of thousands of fans reunite in a poor contest??POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 09:29 pm / quote |
young_is_god
: possibly greatest thing ive ever readPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 09:46 pm / quote |
AerialOverdrive
: littleleo88 wrote:
they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!? |
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 10:23 pm / quote |
reaper846
: Russia is the good guys in this conflict,to put it in simpler terms Russia is the quiet guy who stood up for the little dude getting his ass kicked by a bully. the bully couldnt take the punches and so went to mommyPOSTED: 08/16/2008 - 10:48 pm / quote |
Checksum
: Really hope they play. Though the situation isn't conducive, they can still get their message through in the most powerful wayPOSTED: 08/17/2008 - 01:15 am / quote |
Josh Shiells
: "Peace has never come from dropping bombs. Real peace comes from enlightenment and educating people to behave more in a divine manner."
- Carlos SantanaPOSTED: 08/17/2008 - 01:27 am / quote |
megadethdefying
: AerialOverdrive wrote:
littleleo88 wrote:
they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!?
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! |
hahahahahaPOSTED: 08/17/2008 - 04:28 am / quote |
tamotots
: i just want SOAD to reunite.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 07:51 am / quote |
TheCrowing2113
: Black Hole Sun wrote:
Aren't they American though... I'm not sure on the rules of where contestants, but I think only one of them was born in what's now considered the Republic of Armenia, and I'm not sure if any of them have lived there. |
Celine Dion represented France so it would be allowed. Same with sports, if a player hasn;t been chosen to represent the country he is born in, but he has grandparents/parents who was born in other countries, then that player can be elligible(sp?) for his Parents/Grandparents country.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 08:14 am / quote |
electricwizard_
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. |
and you're okay with the fact that they play in the US after what america did in iraq and afghanistan?POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 09:36 am / quote |
Local666Union
: reaper846 wrote:
Russia is the good guys in this conflict,to put it in simpler terms Russia is the quiet guy who stood up for the little dude getting his ass kicked by a bully. the bully couldnt take the punches and so went to mommy |
+1
Georgia started the war. Not Russia.
SOAD wouldn't be allowed to play for Armenia IMO.
But if they will, I'll watch it just to see 'em.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 11:00 am / quote |
m
: checked.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 11:28 am / quote |
Freely Inc.
: It's probably a high possibility that soad would reunite, idk when but eventually. I mean their and amazing band and all but you dont really hear about them wating to get back together, and especially with their guitarist starting a new band it's hard to tell.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 11:52 am / quote |
Circus
: Eurovision's not about fame, it's about whether they have a record label. Any unsigned band or group can do it. POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 01:10 pm / quote |
SuicidalFreak
: tamotots wrote:
i just want SOAD to reunite. |
Me too. I just hope they won't be on hiatus for too long.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 03:45 pm / quote |
avengedEVANfold
: red_hot_chili18 wrote:
this would own soo much mudkip ass |
isnt that like, a pokemon or something?POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 03:47 pm / quote |
m
: Circus wrote:
Eurovision's not about fame, it's about whether they have a record label. Any unsigned band or group can do it. |
eurovision rulesSection Four: The Entries
1)The entries (lyrics and music) must not have been commercially released and/or publicly performed before 1October 2007.
9)The lyrics and/or performance of the songs shall not bring the Shows or the ESC as such into disrepute. No lyrics, speeches, gestures of a political or similar nature shall be permitted during the ESC. No swearing or other unacceptable language shall be allowed in the lyrics or in the performances of the songs. No commercial messages of any kind shall be allowed. A breach of this rule may result in disqualification. |
it's not about signed/unsigned, any act can do it as long the song hasn't been previously released and the participants are over 16 years of age.
and that rule No 9. would screw SOAD.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 04:18 pm / quote |
Shread_6009
: for all you people talking about system "whining" about the genenocide, you gotta remember that all of them have fathers or grandfathers that experienced it and survived it, and that it isnt even recognized yet as a genecide.
i want soad to at least tour again, even if there are no new albums.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 04:31 pm / quote |
nnb
: if system do do this i hope they don't start a tren..avril lavigne,britny spears ok(maybe even bon jovi) but bands like system,metallica ect should NEVER be in a show like this..its just not right...POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 05:04 pm / quote |
lilscooter11
: Absent Mind wrote:
Arnt they a little too famous to play Eurovision? |
What about Cliff Richard after his 1000th attempt? haha
I'd vote for them, providing they keep it real and keep it them...and keep it politically unbalanced POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 05:48 pm / quote |
akamrsignature
: Armenian genocide is big lie.This is bull-shit....POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
akamrsignature
: And soad is big liar too.they are cheatin' everybody.(so-called)Armenian genocide never happened and never found armenian guy corpses..POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Paul Carbonella
: i would like to see them get together but i dont think after the thing with georgia they're gonna do it, although seeing them get together anywhere would be great. i mean let's face it, regardless of venue we'd all like to see them get back together at least once so we know they're not a dead band.POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 07:35 pm / quote |
The-OwNeR
: Ok first off cant be arsed to qoute but to the person who asked what genocide is--- A genocide is a violent act commited to a human population no matter there colour or beliefs ...ie Hitler+jews, Radovic+Bosnians and so on
2nd of all it would be a good place to make the Armenian Genocide known. 1billion+ people watching it dont say much? Yes they are going on and on about and Turkey involvement BUT they are expressing their anger towards USA.... USA had the power to either stop or preventing it.. SOAD will not stop until USA abmit what they could of done and apologise for what they done..
to the portugal guy on about the US putting more army bases around Russia.... Well tbh with Russia having 1500+ nuclear bombs at their disposel enough to destroy the earth over 10 times or even more I think the US arent the only ones scared shittless of them... They have the camps thr for a reason yes for some bit of control but mainly to keep a watch over them... You said they are rising to power once again since the ninties hmmm dont you seem one sided? Erm dude its Russia not the USSR that you said your living in...if you think your in that time period lets make me look stupid.....YE also had a corrupt gov.t and stil do...slaughtered thounsands of your own people...hmm ye aint have a gr8 past m8..either hate US cus u are a commie or jst hate them in general for thr corruptness you cannot deny that if it wasnt for Them our world would be very different than it is today...they are a SUPER POWER for gods sake yes Russia are also one but ye do not match up to them army wise, technology wise and blah blah about the nukes ye have because ye wil not use them simply cus ye want to exist...once america sees those warheads on thr way up come laser defences all over europe and america and say hello to more powerful nukes and hydro bombs and anyone would be ****ed if that landed^^
anyway SOAD FTW quit whining about wanting them to get back together... THEY ARE ON A BREAK they will reunite but when is the unknown thing^^ they would be awsome if they won it and some people plz read the name ffs EUROVISON NOT WORLD VISION Metallica cannot enter nor can The Offspring Bon Jovi etc ^^ BRING ON BOY ZONE lol what a fail of a band^^POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 11:30 pm / quote |
gareno
: im all for thisPOSTED: 08/18/2008 - 12:02 am / quote |
huevos
: littleleo88 wrote:
they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!? |
Actually, they have. There was legislation in Congress that was gunna make the current Turkey adminstration apologize for the genocide.
Call me a fool, but what you call "whining" may seem like not backing down for a cause they are truely believe in.
To the wall of text above me (The-OwNeR). Laser defences? Are you serious? You tell this guy he's living in the USSR/Cold War era, and you have the audacity to mention Reagan's biggest bs?
reaper846 wrote:
Russia is the good guys in this conflict,to put it in simpler terms Russia is the quiet guy who stood up for the little dude getting his ass kicked by a bully. the bully couldnt take the punches and so went to mommy |
Idk about that. Last I heard, Russia slaughter 1,000+ civilians in a week. Are they the good guys here?POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 02:23 am / quote |
Josh Shiells
: Take it to the Political Thread.
This is a System of a Down article.POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 03:37 am / quote |
Gexzilla
: | Last I heard, Russia slaughter 1,000+ civilians in a week. |
Last time I heard, unicorns exist and they're going to invade Alaska.
Who told you this crap and do you really believe it? :/POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 05:51 am / quote |
identityxcrysis
: I don't think they'd be counted in the contest
Too unfair.POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 06:35 am / quote |
Rajala
: it would be great if sod would reunite, but at eurovision?
eurovision is a jokePOSTED: 08/18/2008 - 06:55 am / quote |
m
: Checked.
Easy on the politics, that's not what the article is about.POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 07:41 am / quote |
banedraven
: I hoped to hear more of their music separate, I mean, Corey Taylor can do it, so these guys might keep it all going!POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 09:52 am / quote |
Sanitarium91
: What's next? Metallica to represent Denmark in the next eurovision contest? POSTED: 08/18/2008 - 09:59 am / quote |
xdolmayan
: They're great apart, but SOAD will always be better when they're a band.POSTED: 08/20/2008 - 02:34 am / quote |
satepus
: RockInPeaceDime wrote:
news doesn't end in question marks |
Two words. Fox News.
Look, I understand the concern over the political action and national policies being derived from our international recording artists (for precident - see Devo's pro-slavery tune, "Whip It." 400 years of oppression just because we are supposed to "whip it good.") Maybe we should all beat our women because some pop star (debatable) says "hit me baby, one more time. Jello and the Dead Kennedys advocate the killing of children. Everybody grab a knife and that pesky kid next door.
There. Offended? Good. Do you realize what you are saying? Look closely at the history of the world. The act of war is forever entangled with humanity, and therfore popular culture. To quote the late George Carlin, "All patriarchal socities are either preparing fo war, at war, or recovering from war."
Now, I will never support either forced regieme change (Iraq is NOT "a totally different situation" then the "Georgian Dispute," to use an example from my nation's current administration) or the killing of the innocent. Regardless of who is doing the killing. I've never mistaken a school or hospital for a missle silo or chemical plant; but then again, I haven't had the brainwashing.
That said, why are we fighting with each other HERE about the situation currently raging around Russia and Georgia? I thought this thread was about a band on hiatias, and the single quote from ONE band member that that Eurovision would be something to think about. Instead, we get a bunch of self-indulgent, instant-gratification, whiny boys crying that "their" band is taking a vacation. Everybody deserves to be themselves. Should we bring back Wham? I'm sure that somebody somewhere feels as strong as some of you about System. The differance is simple. SOAD didn't quit the music industry, they are devoloping themselves as artists and people. We may not all like each and every song/album/band member they choose, but this is not American Idol - no Clay, no William Huang. How many albums have any of you sold? Any platinum records adorning your humble abodes? I'm sure, even though you all "hate" the solo projects, you bought the album without hesitation.
Politics in music goes back through the ages. It is no differant then poetry, books, or even the news. Remember, you do not have to agree with every line to enjoy a song; not every song to enjoy a band. If a song encourages you to learn more about what's happening around you, (you know . . . outside your headphones and study hall) then fantastic, because it seems a number of replies here are from those who need a little education about the world around them.
Thank you to psychogrunge1 and The-OwNeR, for at least having the intellectual integrety to use ACTUAL EVENTS and REAL NEWS in their opposing views. I almost expected to see some tool post "Genocide is bad, mkay. . ."
I have to go now. . .NOFX wants me to kill all the white men, and I have to be back home for Nirvana to rape me.
Music is written by musicians.
History is written by the victors.
POSTED: 08/20/2008 - 09:58 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco. | hey man excellent point why cant they do it in america maybe florida *cough* *cough* amway arenaPOSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:05 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: satepus wrote:
RockInPeaceDime wrote:
news doesn't end in question marks
Two words. Fox News.
Look, I understand the concern over the political action and national policies being derived from our international recording artists (for precident - see Devo's pro-slavery tune, "Whip It." 400 years of oppression just because we are supposed to "whip it good.") Maybe we should all beat our women because some pop star (debatable) says "hit me baby, one more time. Jello and the Dead Kennedys advocate the killing of children. Everybody grab a knife and that pesky kid next door.
There. Offended? Good. Do you realize what you are saying? Look closely at the history of the world. The act of war is forever entangled with humanity, and therfore popular culture. To quote the late George Carlin, "All patriarchal socities are either preparing fo war, at war, or recovering from war."
Now, I will never support either forced regieme change (Iraq is NOT "a totally different situation" then the "Georgian Dispute," to use an example from my nation's current administration) or the killing of the innocent. Regardless of who is doing the killing. I've never mistaken a school or hospital for a missle silo or chemical plant; but then again, I haven't had the brainwashing.
That said, why are we fighting with each other HERE about the situation currently raging around Russia and Georgia? I thought this thread was about a band on hiatias, and the single quote from ONE band member that that Eurovision would be something to think about. Instead, we get a bunch of self-indulgent, instant-gratification, whiny boys crying that "their" band is taking a vacation. Everybody deserves to be themselves. Should we bring back Wham? I'm sure that somebody somewhere feels as strong as some of you about System. The differance is simple. SOAD didn't quit the music industry, they are devoloping themselves as artists and people. We may not all like each and every song/album/band member they choose, but this is not American Idol - no Clay, no William Huang. How many albums have any of you sold? Any platinum records adorning your humble abodes? I'm sure, even though you all "hate" the solo projects, you bought the album without hesitation.
Politics in music goes back through the ages. It is no differant then poetry, books, or even the news. Remember, you do not have to agree with every line to enjoy a song; not every song to enjoy a band. If a song encourages you to learn more about what's happening around you, (you know . . . outside your headphones and study hall) then fantastic, because it seems a number of replies here are from those who need a little education about the world around them.
Thank you to psychogrunge1 and The-OwNeR, for at least having the intellectual integrety to use ACTUAL EVENTS and REAL NEWS in their opposing views. I almost expected to see some tool post "Genocide is bad, mkay. . ."
I have to go now. . .NOFX wants me to kill all the white men, and I have to be back home for Nirvana to rape me.
Music is written by musicians.
History is written by the victors. | whoa thats good postin at its finest right there no sarcasm at all dude run for pres.POSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:09 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: huevos wrote:
littleleo88 wrote:
they wouldnt win anyway.
everyone just votes for their neighbouring countries - hence UK never score anything, plus we always have shit entrants.
anyway, they really need to stop whining about genocide - have they actually advanced it at all!?
Actually, they have. There was legislation in Congress that was gunna make the current Turkey adminstration apologize for the genocide.
Call me a fool, but what you call "whining" may seem like not backing down for a cause they are truely believe in.
To the wall of text above me (The-OwNeR). Laser defences? Are you serious? You tell this guy he's living in the USSR/Cold War era, and you have the audacity to mention Reagan's biggest bs?
reaper846 wrote:
Russia is the good guys in this conflict,to put it in simpler terms Russia is the quiet guy who stood up for the little dude getting his ass kicked by a bully. the bully couldnt take the punches and so went to mommy
Idk about that. Last I heard, Russia slaughter 1,000+ civilians in a week. Are they the good guys here? | let me answer that as well russia bad us good georgia good simple as that but yeah seriously guys post more on the band news and not politics
POSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:11 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: Gexzilla wrote:
Last I heard, Russia slaughter 1,000+ civilians in a week.
Last time I heard, unicorns exist and they're going to invade Alaska.
Who told you this crap and do you really believe it? :/ | dude watch the news
POSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:12 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: akamrsignature wrote:
And soad is big liar too.they are cheatin' everybody.(so-called)Armenian genocide never happened and never found armenian guy corpses.. | you know i seem to remember the same thing being said about the holocaust but wait THAT WAS THE NAZIS YOU SCREWBALLPOSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:14 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: akamrsignature wrote:
Armenian genocide is big lie.This is bull-shit.... | one more time NAZI SCUMPOSTED: 08/25/2008 - 09:15 pm / quote |
satepus
: I think that this thread needs to end. It is obvious that we wll not be seeing SOAD at Eurovision. The reason for this is simple: the members are busy. It is not like they are just hanging out on the beach, they are working.
More then that, though, this political arguement does not belong here. I would be happy to debate the various political theorum in the proper forum, but this is not it. As I said before, the need for enlightenment is profound. Listen to the music you are attacking. You are tearing apart a band based on political views. If politics make the band, why is U2 not running the UN? An artist may use particular language to sink thier message, but that will not make them liars, it makes them poets.
THe mose pertinent example I can think of is "Wooden Ships," by CSN&Y. This is a song about soldiers on opposite sides in WWII. Starving to death, the soldiers are able to help each other to survive. Using symbolism, they are able to make you subconsiously aware of the plight of captured soldiers. I am sure that many people disagree with this breakdown of the song, but these are the words of David Crosby.
Now, it seems that some members are using the same thing that they are complaining about - using combative language and intentionally trying to bolster support for own views by shock and fear. ooooh. . . I'm scared that guy might be right - I better say something absurd to boil everybody's blood . . . maybe they'll take my side.
Remember: Just as a world champion chess player must win at least one game of chess; in order to participate in a political debate, it is necessarry to have learned at least a little about politics.
POSTED: 08/26/2008 - 09:59 am / quote |
akamrsignature
: systemfreak70 wrote:
akamrsignature wrote:
Armenian genocide is big lie.This is bull-shit....
one more time NAZI SCUM |
Im not NAZI you son of a bitch , by the way i hates NAZIS , im just sayin' the truths , This so called armenian genocide historian's job but soad everytime made a propaganda this is not a ethic...POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:32 am / quote |
systemfreak70
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
Black Hole Sun wrote:
Stop whining about genocide?! What the **** are you talking about?
He's talking about the fact that they've already made the genocide common knowledge and that they're using it as an excuse to squeeze more money out of their "armchair rebel" fans.
They wouldn't be allowed to do Eurovision anyway. |
what armchair rebels they arnt gettin my money because i feel sorry for em theyre gettin my money because their music is friggin awesomePOSTED: 08/30/2008 - 04:58 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: satepus wrote:
I think that this thread needs to end. It is obvious that we wll not be seeing SOAD at Eurovision. The reason for this is simple: the members are busy. It is not like they are just hanging out on the beach, they are working.
More then that, though, this political arguement does not belong here. I would be happy to debate the various political theorum in the proper forum, but this is not it. As I said before, the need for enlightenment is profound. Listen to the music you are attacking. You are tearing apart a band based on political views. If politics make the band, why is U2 not running the UN? An artist may use particular language to sink thier message, but that will not make them liars, it makes them poets.
THe mose pertinent example I can think of is "Wooden Ships," by CSN&Y. This is a song about soldiers on opposite sides in WWII. Starving to death, the soldiers are able to help each other to survive. Using symbolism, they are able to make you subconsiously aware of the plight of captured soldiers. I am sure that many people disagree with this breakdown of the song, but these are the words of David Crosby.
Now, it seems that some members are using the same thing that they are complaining about - using combative language and intentionally trying to bolster support for own views by shock and fear. ooooh. . . I'm scared that guy might be right - I better say something absurd to boil everybody's blood . . . maybe they'll take my side.
Remember: Just as a world champion chess player must win at least one game of chess; in order to participate in a political debate, it is necessarry to have learned at least a little about politics. |
Dude go lick a cactusPOSTED: 09/17/2008 - 08:17 pm / quote |
Sivert95
: It was just a romour, Serj said it wasn't truth...POSTED: 10/23/2008 - 01:51 pm / quote |
ledeasla
: Oh, yes, can't wait... a 10-minute teary intro with Serj's moaning voice whispering "lives fading, government covering it all up". Then suddenly, the light shifts towards the band and they spontaneously errupt in a violent rage of badly tuned guitar noises and Serj yells repeatedly for the next 10 minutes "**** war! Fuck the system!" and then, at the end, just when you thought your eyes will bleed of boredom and desynchronization, they add in a little cliche flavor with a schoolgirl choir that humms "people are angels" or some other such cretinous slogan. Great! Yey! Can't wait! NEXT!POSTED: 01/16/2009 - 08:49 am / quote |
SOADbeast
: Too bad this is just a big rumor. media and people twisted the story.....POSTED: 01/22/2009 - 08:34 pm / quote |
sinister2491
: djjiles wrote:
Why aren't Australian bands allowed? so racist. |
racist? wouldnt that be nativist?POSTED: 01/27/2009 - 11:51 am / quote |
meltfireisland
: Mootallica wrote:
end_citizen wrote:
I have a hard time believing System, who is pro human rights, would play in Russia after this whole Georgia fiasco.
I agree with that, but still, I think that SOAD in EuroVision would really open LOTS of eyes about what is actually happening. I mean, nearly a billion people worldwide watch it. |
if u really think 1/6 0f the w0rld watches anything 0n tv then ur a dumb ****ing bitchPOSTED: 01/27/2009 - 10:33 pm / quote |
systemfreak70
: ledeasla wrote:
Oh, yes, can't wait... a 10-minute teary intro with Serj's moaning voice whispering "lives fading, government covering it all up". Then suddenly, the light shifts towards the band and they spontaneously errupt in a violent rage of badly tuned guitar noises and Serj yells repeatedly for the next 10 minutes "**** war! Fuck the system!" and then, at the end, just when you thought your eyes will bleed of boredom and desynchronization, they add in a little cliche flavor with a schoolgirl choir that humms "people are angels" or some other such cretinous slogan. Great! Yey! Can't wait! NEXT! |
you know what im so sick of idiots like you if you dont like the band stay off the fan threads a-holePOSTED: 02/20/2009 - 11:41 am / quote |
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