Weiland Shadow Hangs Over McKagan

Velvet Revolver bassist Duff McKagan doesn’t know how to give a new singer a fair trial because he still feels “screwed� by his experience with sacked frontman Scott Weiland.

The classic-era Guns N’Roses member joined Jane’s Addiction for a short period earlier this year, but left after completing work on their upcoming album. It’s thought Velvet Revolver are preparing to regroup and have at least two potential new singers to audition.

But McKagan says in his Seattle Weekly column: “I don’t want this to be taken the wrong way – how am I supposed to give a new singer a fighting chance, given all of my part history with Scott Weiland?

“Truth be told, I have a lot in common with Scott and I only wish him the very best. But I still feel a little screwed by that situation. Not screwed by Scott himself, but by allowing myself to get hung up on some major-league old-school rock trappings.�

He reflects: “A work environment mixed with the emotion of trying to portray a shared vision and sound can sometimes get downright ridiculous.�

“I just wanted that band to be as great as I knew it could be. I probably let a lot of truths go flying past me in the process. All I can do is learn from the past and adjust myself accordingly.�

McKagan is resolved to “try it differently� if the band manage to find a new singer in the months ahead.

Weiland returned to Stone Temple Pilots after being sacked by Velvet Revolver. STP are currently on tour but have cancelled a series of shows after a series of eccentric onstage performances from their frontman. Meanwhile, VR guitarist Slash has repeated that his solo band singer, Myles Kennedy of Alter Bridge, is not lined up for the vacant mic slot because of his other commitments.

Thanks for the report to RockRadio.

Comments

[Ghefly]

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

[shreducator]

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

[mfergel]

Yeah, 'cause Duff was the portrait of how to behave?

[NightEmbers]

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

[Lou_Dog]

shreducator wrote:

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

so true.

And myles isn't an egoistic frontman either, and fits the band perfectly as proven with his live performances with slash!

[loinmute]

I think Scott Weiland is awesome. Performance wise. He is a nut. He likes "H". But, he is a decent voice, and with great stage presence. I am sick of the Weiland bashing. However, recruit Chris Cornell!

[irollemphat]

shreducator wrote:

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

Just listen to Alter Bridge's new album. Myles clearly has other things going on. Good things, things that should take precedent over salvaging Velvet Revolver.

[OzZY-RuLE5!!!!!]

it's hard to follow. i say they should try josh bush as new frontman for vr

[jetfuel495]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

Duff Grohl would be amazing.

[TextOnTheScreen]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

Definitely. +100

[burninfrets]

shreducator wrote:

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

I agree... he killed it on Slash's album

[thedarkblues06]

shreducator wrote:

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

It's not a matter of time. Myles would never leave Alter Bridge like that; even when they toured with Creed for the new album, he did his own solo thing until they could resume finishing their new album (that debuted yesterday I think).

But yes...VR + Myles would be epic indeed.

What about Frusciante? Not really a "Yeah! he should do it." More like a topic to think about...hmm...

[Jimbleton]

m shadows from A7X, hear me out on this one 'kay, his track on slashs album is class, he has a great soulful voice as well as being able to kick it with the heavy stuff, it seems unlikely at this point that sevenfold will continue i think it would be an interesting combo

[NorCalLos]

They should get the dude from Loaded.

[demonsheep]

To be honest, they should get someone nobody has ever heard of. That makes it better for us because as listeners we get to hear new musicians. We already know who we like (Myles Kennedy.. Dave Grohl..Yeah..), But it's highly unlikely anyone truly famous is going to audition for VR.

[emphaticleech]

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH.

As if McKagan is one to talk about how to behave. What a joke. Whiner.

[MD 316]

What about Frusciante? Not really a "Yeah! he should do it." More like a topic to think about...hmm...

niiice, i'm a huge john frusciante and velvet revolver fan and i never ever would have thought of that, would be an intresting combo but i couldnt see john being the big rock frontman, and he quit the chilis cos he didnt feel inspired by big groups anymore, imagine him singer slither though XD

[Dakkstar]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

GORHL !

[Zeppelin Addict]

demonsheep wrote:

To be honest, they should get someone nobody has ever heard of. That makes it better for us because as listeners we get to hear new musicians. We already know who we like (Myles Kennedy.. Dave Grohl..Yeah..), But it's highly unlikely anyone truly famous is going to audition for VR.

this. i think this has the best chance of happening to... slash has already said that the band is interested in finding untapped talent for their frontman.. someone whos got the talent in a small time setting but has been overlooked and not yet moved onto the big time yet ( the big fish in a small pond metaphor..) this would give the band a talented front man who wont have the big frontman ego and no other projects to quit VR for later on.

[Agent51]

They should getthat Toby Rand guy from "Rockstar: Supernova" awhile back. That show were Tommy Lee and Gilby Clark and Jason Newstead were searching for a singer for their band. That guy had a KILLER rock voice and was 51847184765 times more talanted than that douchey tool that won it, Lukas Rossi I believe was his name? I'm sure a YouTube search for Toby Rand would come up with stuff if you never saw the show, he wa pretty damn good.

[Anjohl]

Myules Kennedy is the new singer, duh. No record label will sign VR with anyone but. The momentum following the Slash solo album makes Myle's joining a foregone conclusion.

[SmittyMan90]

shreducator wrote:

VR + Myles Kennedy = EPIC.

I think everyone knows that, and personally, I think it's only a matter of time.

Hmm wouldnt be a bad idea at all!

[halfj06]

im still thinking chris daughtry would be good, guys got a great range and voice. he did a track with slash once and when you get daughtry outside the pop bullshit world he sounded great..

[druz15_UG]

NightEmbers wrote:

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

fail they have like two songs in drop D

[NorCalLos]

MD 316 wrote:

What about Frusciante? Not really a "Yeah! he should do it." More like a topic to think about...hmm...

niiice, i'm a huge john frusciante and velvet revolver fan and i never ever would have thought of that, would be an intresting combo but i couldnt see john being the big rock frontman, and he quit the chilis cos he didnt feel inspired by big groups anymore, imagine him singer slither though XD

...or they could get someone who knows how to sing.

[Brownbear93]

NorCalLos wrote:

They should get the dude from Loaded.

Duff Mckagan????

[Lou_Dog]

NightEmbers wrote:

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

lmao. im laughing at you right now.

theres like 2 songs in drop D. Obviously just heard slither on the radio and based everything you know about the band on that 1 song

[MD 316]

NorCalLos :
MD 316 wrote:

What about Frusciante? Not really a "Yeah! he should do it." More like a topic to think about...hmm...

niiice, i'm a huge john frusciante and velvet revolver fan and i never ever would have thought of that, would be an intresting combo but i couldnt see john being the big rock frontman, and he quit the chilis cos he didnt feel inspired by big groups anymore, imagine him singer slither though XD


...or they could get someone who knows how to sing.

i take it you havent heard his solo stuff then, or you've just heard the first two albums when he was ****ed up, youtube "the past recedes" or any solo song, **** it just listen to his backing vocals fro the chilis, he would be bad for VR but theres no way you can say he cant sing

[winterXsolstice]

they should get the dude from burn halo

[L2112Lif]

Dakkstar wrote:

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl. GORHL !

THIS ISN'T A MISSPELLING STUDIO... DAKKSTAR! ITS A FUCKING ROCK THREAD!

[Slash181]

VR died after their first album... thats it no more. they start to try and recover this shit from the wreckage then your just pulling up more debry. Slash has done on his solo album and has allowed him to work with many other artists even tho he was nervous to ask anyone. Fair play to him for doing that but he shouldnt allow things like VR to pull him back from what he could be doing. i know having his brothers that hes worked with for years and obviously its nice when ya out there to have ya friends next to you while playing... but, seriously what is left from what is forgotten.

[jhart08]

i got a great idea...say f*ck the lead singer and have duff sing...i've never heard loaded but i've heard he has quite the voice. Problem solved, i expect my consolation check in the mail haha...

[Eifler121]

NightEmbers wrote:

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

Screw that; most progressive acts are incredibly boring. Even if it was all drop D riff based songs, which it wasn't, that would be fine with me as long as they're good songs.
Don't invite Chris Cornell into this, Soundgarden is 50X better than VR, and Dave Grohl's got a lot of other stuff going on. Myles could've done it, but he's got the new Ab album coming out. I liked the Lenny Kravitz suggestion from a few years back. He needs to get back into heavier music.

[gardenofgibson]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

FTW

[jetfuel495]

L2112Lif wrote:

Dakkstar wrote:

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl. GORHL !



THIS ISN'T A MISSPELLING STUDIO... DAKKSTAR! ITS A FUCKING ROCK THREAD!

Yeah, but, it's GORHL!

The joke -----

your head -----

[LynchMobster]

get john bush or that dude that replaced rob halford/guy from iced earth

[LynchMobster]

tim owens, thats the name i was looking for

[Dylan_Guitar93]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

I could so imagine him screaming that verse after the solo on Slither however I couldn't imagine him not being on an instrument

[jkelly13]

All I have to say to Duff is this
Buddy, you gotta' have some blind faith. Give that guy a chance, halter at the first choice cause the golden guy could be in disguise.

I wish he could see this, but I highly doubt his moderation of these forums.

Rome wasn't built in a day, you made history with one of the biggest premadonas in the music industry. Who cares buddy, do you, be you and be proud of your creation. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we the people think, as long as you feel that your creation is the cutting edge of music. The music industry is F**ked, we all know that. You got the fan base, bring us something that is you. You never know until you try, as long as you have that blind faith you may just get lucky. If not it's back to the drawing board buddy.
I wish you the best of luck and I'm confident in you, Slash's and the bands choice. You have all been through alot, take your time, like the greatest have said, quantity over quality.
Peace, Love, and Revolver!

[jkelly13]

Yea my bad, Quality over quantity. That's just a typo. HAHA

[DemonToh]

Rod Jackson.

[timfoley]

lol at the guy incorrectly correcting the spelling of grohl

[guusw]

MD 316 wrote:

What about Frusciante? Not really a "Yeah! he should do it." More like a topic to think about...hmm...
niiice, i'm a huge john frusciante and velvet revolver fan and i never ever would have thought of that, would be an intresting combo but i couldnt see john being the big rock frontman, and he quit the chilis cos he didnt feel inspired by big groups anymore, imagine him singer slither though XD

That would be cool haha

[Pukka-VCU]

demonsheep wrote:

To be honest, they should get someone nobody has ever heard of. That makes it better for us because as listeners we get to hear new musicians. We already know who we like (Myles Kennedy.. Dave Grohl..Yeah..), But it's highly unlikely anyone truly famous is going to audition for VR.

Actually, they've said themselves that several famous people have auditioned for the vacant spot. The only singer to admit it thus far though is Corey Taylor (from what I've heard).

[thrash-it-up]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

if dave grohl wasnt in the foo fighters that would be unbelievably cool! best supergroup ever!

[DrPooh]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

I think they want someone who can really sing..

[espChris93]

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl.

NO WAY! Dave's stuff with Foo Fighters and Them Crooked Vultures is WAYYY to great to sink down to salvaging together a new velvet revolver lineup(when the original isnt even good)

and to whoever said Dave cant sing bahahaha whatever..

[Wolfinator-x]

They should go back to the Snakepit days. That shit was awesome.

[Cheeseman Jay]

Corey Taylor auditioned of them once. Get him in! Actually, I don't think it would work. Instead, get him to do a song on Slash's next album. Then I'll be happy

[jean_genie]

Eifler121 wrote:

NightEmbers wrote:

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

Screw that; most progressive acts are incredibly boring. Even if it was all drop D riff based songs, which it wasn't, that would be fine with me as long as they're good songs.
Don't invite Chris Cornell into this, Soundgarden is 50X better than VR, and Dave Grohl's got a lot of other stuff going on. Myles could've done it, but he's got the new Ab album coming out. I liked the Lenny Kravitz suggestion from a few years back. He needs to get back into heavier music.

Lenny Kravitz USED to be really good. He made some incredible music back then he was still depressed. For those of you that haven't heard it, check out Circus. Excellent writing, playing, etc. But once he got happy/cut his hair/started hanging out with Madonna and the fashionistas, he started to suck real fast. I'm honestly not sure he can get it back. I'd be willing to give it a long hard listen though.

LynchMobster wrote:

get john bush or that dude that replaced rob halford/guy from iced earth

Tim Owens? Meh. He's a pretty bland screamer. Excellent range, but I think he's pretty boring. He sounds like a phoned-in Ronnie James Dio. Matt ... um ... Matt ... Something-or-other, the guy that sang on Horror Show, would be a good choice though. He was the only Iced Earth singer that ever really got my attention.

[queenslander47]

 jetfuel495  wrote:

L2112Lif wrote:

Dakkstar wrote:

Ghefly wrote:

Poor Duff. First he had to deal with Axl Rose and then Scott Wieland!

Unfortunate, he should get someone automatically cool and nice - Dave Grohl. GORHL !



THIS ISN'T A MISSPELLING STUDIO... DAKKSTAR! ITS A FUCKING ROCK THREAD!

Yeah, but, it's GORHL!

The joke -----

your head -----

GORHL IS GOD!!

[Abom]

NightEmbers wrote:

I honestly think VR should just be finished, lets be honest they were not that good... drop D songs with simple riffs and not nearly of progressive hues to back the fact that these are legends in a band together... I say drop VR start another band. It obviously woulda been better for axl to do the same but nope. Dumb mistakes can be easily avoided!

It's good to see you made a nice, objective review of the band, rather then just hearing Slither and writing all of their material off due to having heard one song.

[Echoesofmusic94]

lets be honest though if you had a band with a name as cool as Velvet Revolver wouldn't you want to find a new singer and keep going? I mean c'mon Velvet Revolver is a really cool name for a band lol

[MarshallGibson]

Zack De La Rocha

[vitriolis]

They should hire Andrew Stockdale. He fits the band and has a colourful voice imho.

[slashrock94]

I love Duff, but VR should just give up.

[ryaniomitch]

grohl kravitz stockdale or IZZZY~!

[TomG10-7]

c'mon, it's obvious.

Eric Dover,
or
Rod Jackson.

[robnoxious89]

Holy **** they should just give up,whatever they do or whoever they get (if somehow they can find someone) they aren't gonna make a better record than contraband.look at audioslave's first album and compare it to the other 2.scott's an amazing frontman and it'l be hard for anyone to try and fill his boots.and after 3 years of "looking for a singer" they've found jack shit, duffs made 2 loaded albums and slash did his thing.if they were gonna get anyone duff should sing and make them sound more punky.other than that they should just **** it off

[CaliforniaKid]

emphaticleech wrote:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH.

As if McKagan is one to talk about how to behave. What a joke. Whiner.

+11

[guitarnoob_100]

Scott Weiland is a great singer and frontman but all I've ever heard about him is that he's a douche with his bandmates.

[theotherguy7145]

I wonder if Rod Jackson is still kickin' round.
Ain' Life Grand is probably my favourite album overall. It'd be nice to hear something from a similar mould.

[ukdudeinuk]

they should obviously get dave mustaine