A vinyl record has been downloaded and printed, taking music piracy to an entirely new level.
In the video below, a small record plays a theme from the video game "Portal" on a Fisher-Price record deck. The record itself came from a 3D printer, which uses new techniques to print small layers which eventually make a real working product.
3D printing is not a new concept, but the release of this video coincides with a new category on the Pirate Bay named Physibles dedicated to 3D printers.
"Music, movies, books, all come from the digital sphere. But we're physical people and we need objects to touch sometimes as well," wrote the Pirate Bay in a blog post.
"We believe that the next step in copying will be made from digital form into physical form," it said. "We believe that things like three dimensional printers, scanners and such are just the first step. We believe that in the nearby future you will print your spare parts for your vehicles. You will download your sneakers within 20 years."
Although the vinyl example is too much effort to make a real dent in music sales, the potential for 3D printing is staggering. The world of medicine already prints bones for patients, and the mechanical industry can design increasingly complex parts which can be printed, helping engineers build ever more complex machines.
"The benefit to society is huge," argues the Pirate Bay. "No more shipping huge amount of products around the world. No more shipping the broken products back. No more child labour."
The downside is that the Physibles section on the Pirate Bay already offers firearm parts.
Although we think their predictions of printing food are less plausible in the near future, we love the idea that we can print new guitar parts with these processes. Would we print an entire music collection? No way. But just wait until a torrent for the iPod Touch design comes out...
Interestingly, there are designs for 3D printers that can be printed themselves, though there's an obvious catch there. There are also several guides for building your own from scratch, if you want to search them online.
If this is true, then we are in a lot of ****ing trouble. The day you can torrent an iPod Touch businesses are screwed
The only way youd be able to "print" electronics is if you had an assembly line, like...Apple do. A record is just one piece of plastic with groovees cut into it, which is easily replicaple with a 3d printer.
These 3d printers came out of nowhere. I only heard of them a few days ago. They can make this??
Can someone print out a 3D printer for me?
If I'm not mistaken, these 3D printers have been around a while actually. Remember Jurassic Park 3 in the beginning where he 3D Prints the vocal chords of the velociraptor and blows through it? Same thing. That was in what? Like 1996 or something?
These 3d printers came out of nowhere. I only heard of them a few days ago. They can make this??
Can someone print out a 3D printer for me?
If I'm not mistaken, these 3D printers have been around a while actually. Remember Jurassic Park 3 in the beginning where he 3D Prints the vocal chords of the velociraptor and blows through it? Same thing. That was in what? Like 1996 or something?
I wouldn't really call this pirated either because as many people have said its not something your really going to find in vinyl format anywhere. And if you watch the second video that shows the close up of the record...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ElAJJnSvQtk
Yo u see its not a normal LP or anything, willing to bet $20 this guy knows the tuning for the keys on that fisher price player and wrote that himself, cause I really don't think fisher price makes those records anymore especially with current video game themes on it. No different then us writing a tab in guitar pro.
3D printers have been out for awhile, but they're really expensive, just like CronoMagus mentioned.
I understand vinyls and other plastic materials, but spare car parts from plastic? I have a feeling we are going to see an increase in traffic accidents due to some moron installing brake pads he printed off his 3D printer.
I wouldn't really call this pirated either because as many people have said its not something your really going to find in vinyl format anywhere. And if you watch the second video that shows the close up of the record...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ElAJJnSvQtk
Yo u see its not a normal LP or anything, willing to bet $20 this guy knows the tuning for the keys on that fisher price player and wrote that himself, cause I really don't think fisher price makes those records anymore especially with current video game themes on it. No different then us writing a tab in guitar pro.
You're missing the point. This demonstrates that a physical record can be produced for free, regardless of ownership.
"The benefit to society is huge," argues the Pirate Bay. "No more shipping huge amount of products around the world. No more shipping the broken products back. No more child labour."
These 3d printers came out of nowhere. I only heard of them a few days ago. They can make this??
Can someone print out a 3D printer for me?
If I'm not mistaken, these 3D printers have been around a while actually. Remember Jurassic Park 3 in the beginning where he 3D Prints the vocal chords of the velociraptor and blows through it? Same thing. That was in what? Like 1996 or something?
Nvm I was way off with the year, it was 2001 lol
At least you aren't as out of the loop as I apparently am. =P
I know that record stores are rare, but I'd imagine buying vinyl is the hottest its been in a long time right now. If I can find some good record stores in cities like Toronto or Montreal, surely the great 'Murica has record stores peppered among its big cities.
I mean, there's no way you can live in NYC or LA and tell me there's no record store nearby.
I know that record stores are rare, but I'd imagine buying vinyl is the hottest its been in a long time right now. If I can find some good record stores in cities like Toronto or Montreal, surely the great 'Murica has record stores peppered among its big cities.
I mean, there's no way you can live in NYC or LA and tell me there's no record store nearby.
Actually, a couple years ago Sony Records started printing to vinyl again because vinyl sales were up and CD sales were down.
People need to stop complaining about how "wrong" this is. Its how technology works - get with the times. There's always going to be something new coming out that will let you do things from your own home that you previously had to pay someone else to do.
I really don't like the idea of parts of firearms being included on torrent sites. Not only for the obvious reasons, but it also means there'll be a far bigger incentive for governments to crack down on such sites.
I know that record stores are rare, but I'd imagine buying vinyl is the hottest its been in a long time right now. If I can find some good record stores in cities like Toronto or Montreal, surely the great 'Murica has record stores peppered among its big cities.
I mean, there's no way you can live in NYC or LA and tell me there's no record store nearby.
Actually, a couple years ago Sony Records started printing to vinyl again because vinyl sales were up and CD sales were down.
People need to stop complaining about how "wrong" this is. Its how technology works - get with the times. There's always going to be something new coming out that will let you do things from your own home that you previously had to pay someone else to do.
That's what I thought. It's a good time for vinyl, or at least a better time compared to CDs.
That was Still Alive? If I didnt know that's what it was before watching it, I would have never known. Impressive, but it's got a long way to go before record companies have anything to worry about.
Guns and electronics currently can not be printed, guns structural integrity and electronics well its currnently just able to print plastic this have a greater impact in the toy and parts industries.
everyone should just look on the bright side, if the ability to produce your own cheap plastic crap at home is going to hurt anyone it's gonna be china, anything still manufactured in the US is way to advanced for this to have any impact.
So can food work? That'll actually do the world good. I guess the only downside is that it'll have a hint of ink.
Though it's interesting to see technology moving, even though these things have been around. Then again, some can say that technology is moving too fast.
this is ****ing retarded, considering a 3D printing machine is well into tens of thousands of dollars. If you have that much money to spend on a machine, then you can buy ****ing records. This video was just made for purposes of showing what it can do. If people are getting scared because this will "ruin the music industry", then you're just retarded.
If this is true, then we are in a lot of ****ing trouble. The day you can torrent an iPod Touch businesses are screwed
The only way youd be able to "print" electronics is if you had an assembly line, like...Apple do. A record is just one piece of plastic with groovees cut into it, which is easily replicaple with a 3d printer.
A 3D printer could potentially print different materials just as a printer today uses several inks. Inside, you could cram a bunch of nano tech for smaller devices than ever before. Food is the hard one to get right.
Some of these claims are pretty ridiculous. Even if you acquired a 3D printer, you'd still have to pay for the raw materials, and chances are that you'd need different printers to handle different materials, so it's not some magical machine that can make anything you download off the internet.
Currently, 3D printers only print in plaster or resins. The idea of printing an iPod touch or food is ridiculous due to the complexity of materials.
Also, having firearm parts is quite scary. That's actually something that could work made out of those materials with only a few extra parts.
Also, having firearm parts is quite scary. That's actually something that could work made out of those materials with only a few extra parts.
Why is that "scary"? Why is everything "scary" to people these days? Can they also print smokeless powder and impact sensitive explosive material for the primer? Come on... you can make a functional firearm from Home Depot parts. Scary.... pfffft Seriously?
What ever happened to the 7-layer CD? Each layer is supposed to be detected with different colors phosphorus. Heard about this the same time they were developing the Blu-ray and Audio DVD...circa 2003...before those came out.
Some of these claims are pretty ridiculous. Even if you acquired a 3D printer, you'd still have to pay for the raw materials, and chances are that you'd need different printers to handle different materials, so it's not some magical machine that can make anything you download off the internet.
Not yet, but then again, there was once a time where computer games were nothing more than text on a screen with commands you type in response to text the computer prints. Now we've got games where we can play war with/against people from across the world in realistic 3d environments. Where it's realistic enough that the military uses similar software for training purposes.
This is pretty bloody cool, even if not practical at this point. The technology will mature and we will eventually be able to "print" things like an ipod or a pair of shoes or the parts to build your own motorcycle. Hell, print out a guitar. Develop the right synthetic materials and you could print yourself out a Parker, or maybe even a Steinberger. Think of the possibilities of being able to use discontinued designs, or never having to worry about Steinberger or Floyd Rose discontinuing production on their double-end strings
They can already print out durable items like an actual working crescent wrench and complex designs (a large, light-bulb shaped mass of gears that moved freely, printed out as a single piece).
You know what I just realized? Hand-held portable communication (cell phones), hand held computers (tablets and smart phones), replication (3d print manufacturing), all things that were talked about on Star Trek. We've even got ships named the Enterprise.
Actually, guys... Stereolithography has been around for quite a while. More recently, LMS (laser-metal-sintering) has erupted. LMS machines can print metal parts with outstanding grain structure - it's not just cast quality anymore either. Some machines can run multiple materials simultaneously.
I used to see these things all the time at trade-shows. LMS is going to take machining to a higher level. Printing out car parts at home is a stretch, considering that a basic LMS machine runs several million dollars. That, and the technology is limited by... *drumroll* Physics. Jetted materials react differently in thinner streams. Grain structure is very important.
Back to polymers... A decent 3D printer runs 10k. An outstanding, production-quality printer runs 40k+ and can run multiple, dissimilar materials.
It's an amazing technology that I've been watching. I predicted 5 years ago that LMS would get to 0.001" tolerances quickly and it happened last year (it was at 0.005" at the time). Give it another two years and you'll see 0.0005" or less.
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...horrible, cruel mockery of people who refuse to buy things and then expect people to give away music and never ask anything for their service aside, I'll have to +1000 this guy.
I'm going to open up a shop selling only 3D printers since it looks like that will be the only thing bought in the future.
I'm sad to say you won't be making much money from that. One of the aims of engineers working on 3D printers is to be able to print off another 3D printer. If you don't have a 3D printer you'll just get a friend with one to print you one. There'll be initial sales yes, but that'll last as long as 3D TV's were sold for.
Given that in order to print an object your printer would need to have the specific materials to print it, it would in fact be cheaper to buy an iPod Touch.
Use logic people; to print out CPU's, you need the material the CPU is made of.
The vinyl is just plastic with tiny grooves on it, piece of cake for a 3D printer.
Some of these claims are pretty ridiculous. Even if you acquired a 3D printer, you'd still have to pay for the raw materials, and chances are that you'd need different printers to handle different materials, so it's not some magical machine that can make anything you download off the internet.
Not yet, but then again, there was once a time where computer games were nothing more than text on a screen with commands you type in response to text the computer prints. Now we've got games where we can play war with/against people from across the world in realistic 3d environments. Where it's realistic enough that the military uses similar software for training purposes.
This is pretty bloody cool, even if not practical at this point. The technology will mature and we will eventually be able to "print" things like an ipod or a pair of shoes or the parts to build your own motorcycle. Hell, print out a guitar. Develop the right synthetic materials and you could print yourself out a Parker, or maybe even a Steinberger. Think of the possibilities of being able to use discontinued designs, or never having to worry about Steinberger or Floyd Rose discontinuing production on their double-end strings
They can already print out durable items like an actual working crescent wrench and complex designs (a large, light-bulb shaped mass of gears that moved freely, printed out as a single piece).
You know what I just realized? Hand-held portable communication (cell phones), hand held computers (tablets and smart phones), replication (3d print manufacturing), all things that were talked about on Star Trek. We've even got ships named the Enterprise.
Take that you bathrobe-wearing Star Wars geeks!
I don't think people here really have any idea how this stuff works. iPods and computers and cars have elemental metals like mercury and cadmium and lead, and humans don't - and likely never will - have the ability to synthesize these materials. And you can't exactly order these types of materials from a catalog - other than being cost prohibitive on a small scale, there's safety, environmental, and national defense issues. So unless you figure out how to finally perfect that whole nuclear fusion thing, and then figure out to dissipate the energy safely, and then figure out how to progress from helium into more complex elements, and then figure out how to miniaturize it into something that can fit into a household appliance, and then figure out to manufacture that into a product cheap enough for people to buy, you're not going to be able to print electronics or any other product which uses these and similar materials.
You could buy those components and then assemble them using homemade printed metal and plastic components. Maybe. But the printable components are already the easiest and cheapest parts to purchase. And do you really think Apple is going to be more likely to make that doable just because you can print the chasis?
I don't mean to pick on you, with the exception of a few folks, nobody here - including the author, apparently - seems to get that a computer or an iPod or a car is more than just a some polymers and metal. You're right that we could, theoretically, print out guitar strings (though you won't be able to print a wound string, so you'll have to find a way to wind them yourself) or small metal motorcycle parts (after a certain size it's not going to be practical, even if it will be possible). But beyond that, you guys are talking about flying to Alpha Centuri and we're just figuring out how to walk. I love the idea of "we used to have Frogger and now we have Uncharted 3." But it's simply not a realistic fantasy.
And, really, you just figured all that "Star Trek" stuff out? Really??? Just now??? Really?????
Some of these claims are pretty ridiculous. Even if you acquired a 3D printer, you'd still have to pay for the raw materials, and chances are that you'd need different printers to handle different materials, so it's not some magical machine that can make anything you download off the internet.
Not yet, but then again, there was once a time where computer games were nothing more than text on a screen with commands you type in response to text the computer prints. Now we've got games where we can play war with/against people from across the world in realistic 3d environments. Where it's realistic enough that the military uses similar software for training purposes.
This is pretty bloody cool, even if not practical at this point. The technology will mature and we will eventually be able to "print" things like an ipod or a pair of shoes or the parts to build your own motorcycle. Hell, print out a guitar. Develop the right synthetic materials and you could print yourself out a Parker, or maybe even a Steinberger. Think of the possibilities of being able to use discontinued designs, or never having to worry about Steinberger or Floyd Rose discontinuing production on their double-end strings
They can already print out durable items like an actual working crescent wrench and complex designs (a large, light-bulb shaped mass of gears that moved freely, printed out as a single piece).
You know what I just realized? Hand-held portable communication (cell phones), hand held computers (tablets and smart phones), replication (3d print manufacturing), all things that were talked about on Star Trek. We've even got ships named the Enterprise.
Take that you bathrobe-wearing Star Wars geeks!
I don't think people here really have any idea how this stuff works. iPods and computers and cars have elemental metals like mercury and cadmium and lead, and humans don't - and likely never will - have the ability to synthesize these materials. And you can't exactly order these types of materials from a catalog - other than being cost prohibitive on a small scale, there's safety, environmental, and national defense issues. So unless you figure out how to finally perfect that whole nuclear fusion thing, and then figure out to dissipate the energy safely, and then figure out how to progress from helium into more complex elements, and then figure out how to miniaturize it into something that can fit into a household appliance, and then figure out to manufacture that into a product cheap enough for people to buy, you're not going to be able to print electronics or any other product which uses these and similar materials.
You could buy those components and then assemble them using homemade printed metal and plastic components. Maybe. But the printable components are already the easiest and cheapest parts to purchase. And do you really think Apple is going to be more likely to make that doable just because you can print the chasis?
I don't mean to pick on you, with the exception of a few folks, nobody here - including the author, apparently - seems to get that a computer or an iPod or a car is more than just a some polymers and metal. You're right that we could, theoretically, print out guitar strings (though you won't be able to print a wound string, so you'll have to find a way to wind them yourself) or small metal motorcycle parts (after a certain size it's not going to be practical, even if it will be possible). But beyond that, you guys are talking about flying to Alpha Centuri and we're just figuring out how to walk. I love the idea of "we used to have Frogger and now we have Uncharted 3." But it's simply not a realistic fantasy.
And, really, you just figured all that "Star Trek" stuff out? Really??? Just now??? Really?????
WOAH are you worried about being put out of business....do you sell guitar strings or something??? Bit defensive in your argument buddy...people cleary get exicted and think and dream of futher applications/possibilities you just come off as this could be directly affecting you negatively. And yes one day ppl will say "remember when printers were just used for text" any one like yopu who deals in absolutes is a ****in moron. If you said 10/20 years agoo that they would be printing bones some douche like you would say "no they won't blah blah blah and even if they could they would have to blah blah blah" oh wait they have ****ing done it so suck on that. Oh yeah and a fantasy is not meant to be 100% realistic thats what a fantasy is moron its between the reality and the possibility of something!
These comments...omg...Anyway, I'm an engineering student and we have a 3D printer on campus. Because I'm a member of the mechanical engineering department, I get to use it for free for certain applications, but if someone in industry wants to pay to use it, it's several thousand dollars per cubic inch. The point is this technology exists, sure, but it's incredibly expensive. I saw earlier where someone posted the price of an entire unit, but honestly the cost of running them is enormous. At the same time it's awesome that they could make something that interesting on a 3D printer.
I don't think people here really have any idea how this stuff works. iPods and computers and cars have elemental metals like mercury and cadmium and lead, and humans don't - and likely never will - have the ability to synthesize these materials. And you can't exactly order these types of materials from a catalog - other than being cost prohibitive on a small scale, there's safety, environmental, and national defense issues. So unless you figure out how to finally perfect that whole nuclear fusion thing, and then figure out to dissipate the energy safely, and then figure out how to progress from helium into more complex elements, and then figure out how to miniaturize it into something that can fit into a household appliance, and then figure out to manufacture that into a product cheap enough for people to buy, you're not going to be able to print electronics or any other product which uses these and similar materials.
You could buy those components and then assemble them using homemade printed metal and plastic components. Maybe. But the printable components are already the easiest and cheapest parts to purchase. And do you really think Apple is going to be more likely to make that doable just because you can print the chasis?
I don't mean to pick on you, with the exception of a few folks, nobody here - including the author, apparently - seems to get that a computer or an iPod or a car is more than just a some polymers and metal. You're right that we could, theoretically, print out guitar strings (though you won't be able to print a wound string, so you'll have to find a way to wind them yourself) or small metal motorcycle parts (after a certain size it's not going to be practical, even if it will be possible). But beyond that, you guys are talking about flying to Alpha Centuri and we're just figuring out how to walk. I love the idea of "we used to have Frogger and now we have Uncharted 3." But it's simply not a realistic fantasy.
And, really, you just figured all that "Star Trek" stuff out? Really??? Just now??? Really?????
Who says that, one day, these devices won't be made out of a material that could be easily printable? We are constantly improving technology, making it faster, smaller, cheaper, more efficient, and easier to produce. Think about all the money and the work that went into building some of the first computers, and those were the size of warehouses. Now we have computers exponentially more powerful, that fit in the palms of our hands, and this was in less than a century. In less than a century (hell, less than half a century) we went from having the Wright Brothers flying a quarter mile at 5 feet above ground to breaking the sound barrier, and being able to regularly shuttle a hundred-plus people across the Atlantic in a few hours.
Pick on me? Dude, I've probably disassembled and reassembled more ipods and other like devices than you've owned. I know how they work. I'm not saying that printing one could be done today, but eventually the technology will exist. The devices may have to change to materials/methods more suitable for printing, but eventually, it will happen.
You don't think that they could print wound guitar strings? They can already print a working crescent wrench (you know, the ones with the gear in them that allows you to adjust the size).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHnMj6dxj4
Take a look at the thing they made at 1:20. They can print that, but you don't think a simple wound guitar string is possible? Do you even know anything about this technology? Hell, they've even got versions that use metal powder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Px6RSL9Ac&feature=related
Some motorcycle parts would be too big to be practical? Maybe, MAYBE for the home unit, but this tech isn't going to really be any bigger than the casting and milling machines they use for those parts now, and won't have the added issue of molten metal being within a couple inches of melting someone's face off. If people and businesses get behind this we could see one of these in every home and larger models in shopping malls or specialized "print centres" for the big parts.
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