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Rock Band 2: Better Instruments

artist: rock band date: 07/21/2008 category: industry news
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:34 am
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theotherguy7145 :
Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:42 am / quote |
replica_ :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:06 am / quote |
replica_ :
one more thing..ever see the advert for rock band? might be different in the US but...the advert is all young people (student like) prancing about on stage playing rock band lol kinda speaks for itself really...at least the GH advert is slightly easier to believe in that the people are in their bedroom. for me its seems as though its killing guitar more than promoting or giving notice to actual guitar playing.

right!!! enough of my ranting! lol...cuz afterall its only a game.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:15 am / quote |
joshua029 :
they're fun... i can see why song lists could be on here but all this other stuff should be on gaming sites...
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:19 am / quote |
Rhyan_EG :
Well this is for general music news, and this is a music game so it makes sense to me that it was going to be here. Some people, like myself, are interested in news about Rock Band so this article was pretty informative. I really like the sounds of the new drum kit.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:54 am / quote |
ironman316 :
sooo many typo's... lol


but i'm probably gonna get guitar hero world tour. it seems better made.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:25 am / quote |
fob12 :
I saw a video for a drum set that's optional to buy for this, and man, it's a real drum set. It's got the symbols, the high hat, all the other things, and it's metal or something too so it doesn't break, you can even have double kickers. That would be so much fun to play. It would be like being in a real band for a drummer if they get the songs right.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:25 am / quote |
polaroidvision :
Similar.

One m.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:27 am / quote |
jables23092 :
I seriously doubt these games are "killing guitar." If you know somebody who was considering playing guitar or started playing and then quit because he/she figured guitar hero or rock band is good enough, i think thats a personal situation, not a universal one. However I was always more fond of guitar hero than rock band, so i'll probably stick with the new guitar hero.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:30 am / quote |
zalant :
To me, the scary thing is that I've been seeing local places here (Portland, OR) hosting Guitar Hero nights, which are sort of like karaoke nights, where they put the games up on big-assed screens and people get up and do their thing. Some are just for fun and some are more of a competition. With the new versions of the games offering players the ability to "write" their own songs, I foresee people forming "bands" and perhaps even releassing "albums". Who knows how far this stuff can be taken, but just think how much people could accomplish on REAL instruments if they practiced as much as they do with these games. I'm totally with replica_ on this one.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:31 am / quote |
Detonation :
wow come on now... this is just overkill now... An actual drum set for rock band? Ive seen it all now. At first rock band didnt bother me but now it seems like people think there in an actual band. I dont understand where they get that at?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:35 am / quote |
SkAsupafly :
they should release
'SKA BAND' and have trumpets, trombones, saxes, and such. or maybe 'JAZZ BAND'... but it'd fail and not many people would buy it.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:37 am / quote |
Hexagram :
It is a GAME. Stop treating it as something more and comparing it to real guitar people. As much as you want to moan and complain about how people take it too serious (which I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills) or how great they would be on a real guitar--please quiet yourself with these naive statements.

I will repeat for exaggerated effect--IT IS JUST A GAME

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:40 am / quote |
Shlecht :
this guitar hero/rock band stardom people get is nothing compared to people who actually participate in air-guitar contests...that shit is ridiculous.

and this is sort of irrelevant but im like OCD about this shit...almost every news article i read on here is completely unprofessionally done, terrible grammar or spelling. doesnt really matter, its just like a pet peeve thing.
but yeah...i dunno about rock band 2, the soundtrack is stellar but guitar hero has always been my thang.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:40 am / quote |
TJ1991 :
yeah its been said, but i like correct speeling (intentional irony) too...

anyway, yeah its just a game. its good that they're putting a lot of effort in to make it a better game, but at the end of the day there will always be a new game, so its nothing to get worked up about. i'm still waiting for trombone hero.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:46 am / quote |
flame843 :
These games are so boring...why not just play real guitar?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:47 am / quote |
Falchion12 :
I'm a huge fan of both the Guitar Hero and Rock Band franchises, but UG and other sites dedicated to music news really go overboard on this stuff. I could see if it were a tracklist or a release date sure. But honestly, people can find out these minor details on their own if they just visit any gaming site.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:49 am / quote |
seventyXseven :
I Learned How to play Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria on drums from being able to play it on expert on rockband. it teaches you timing and rhythm, which you need to play an actual instrument. So shut up about how its only a game. the guitar and bass are totally different subjects comparing to the drums in this case. those parts aren't anything like it but the drums feel good and you can hear what your playing.


POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:50 am / quote |
highwaysalmon :
SkAsupafly wrote:

they should release
'SKA BAND' and have trumpets, trombones, saxes, and such. or maybe 'JAZZ BAND'... but it'd fail and not many people would buy it.


This cat has got the right idea.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:50 am / quote |
Hp312 :
The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls

Dear god.
I have no problem with Guitar Hero and Rock Band as they are like many have said before, JUST GAMES, but this shocked me, an actual fender strat with buttons, thats murdering a really nice guitar in my eyes, a great arguement for the "Why not just play real guitar"

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:58 am / quote |
nandezfranchise :
This is music news. Think of how many bands license their songs for this game. Metallica is putting on their whole album for guitar hereo.
This is just a new medium replacing cd's.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:06 am / quote |
kwside95 :
No one thinks that they are actually playing in a band. And if they do, they are probably 5 or younger, and will eventually grow out of it. I'm excited for rock band 2, much better than what guitar hero world tour will be like. (Although the Stratocaster made to be a controller is a little overboard.)
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:08 am / quote |
HoldYourColour :
Rockband has improved my drumming and fill ideas

And its nice to sing along to something and to know if you're singing out of key or not

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:09 am / quote |
BullonParade :
who the hell made this up? its not very well written/typed.

anyway, i like the sound of having cymbals instead of just the pads.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:26 am / quote |
ALLmustPAY :
Whats everyone always bitching about? Real guitars?? Do you people honestly think this is killing actual music? Guitar companies are selling more guitars than ever due to these games and the influence they have on people to play real instruments.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
CowboyUp :
I read in Game Informer that you have to special order the "advanced" drum kit :S
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:32 am / quote |
 
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flame843 wrote:

These games are so boring...why not just play real guitar?
lack of money, time, creativity etc.

not everyone wants to learn an instrument. This is just a bit of fun and doesn't require years of dedication to get to a decent level of ability.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:34 am / quote |
Darth_Qurashi :
i hate playing guitar on it. but it kinda helps me with finger strength and timing I guess.drumming is the most fun cuz its been like my dream to play drums after listning to so many good drummers, and i've never played one in my life but i felt like i knew how to keep a beat and when i played rock band, it made me feel so awesome. Im so getting this game just for the drums.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:35 am / quote |
tom-the-lawn :
Hexagram wrote:

It is a GAME. Stop treating it as something more and comparing it to real guitar people. As much as you want to moan and complain about how people take it too serious (which I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills) or how great they would be on a real guitar--please quiet yourself with these naive statements.

I will repeat for exaggerated effect--IT IS JUST A GAME

Yeah guys christ no one considers Guitar Hero and/or Rock Band a real instrument so stop making up bullshit that people do.
It's not ruining anything it's actually resulting in a lot of people buying real instruments (although it is much harder to find a copy of Guitar World these days).
But in the end it's just like 'nandexfranchise' said it's just a new medium for replacing cds.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:36 am / quote |
MangeuDePoutine :
People are exaggerating with these game, they take it too much serious (not everyone but a lot yes). I mean, just type Guitar on goole, more than 50% of image will be for Guitar Hero. Try the same thing with Rock... That can be a fun game, but most of people are exaggerating with this game. They do contest, they thing this is serious they post video on youtube, dude you suck this is just a game and there still people who like this... My opinion...
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:48 am / quote |
spartan 118 :
Now we can only hope for a double bass pedal...
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:50 am / quote |
Toadstool5 :
whoever wrote this can not spell.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:09 pm / quote |
angus_young_32 :
Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

These games are so boring...why not just play real guitar?



i agree completely

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:10 pm / quote |
zalant :
Hexagram wrote:
I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills


Just wait.

I'm serious about the Guitar Hero karaoke thing. If it's happening here, it's happening in other cities, too. It will expand and pretty soon, people will be inviting their friends and co-workers out to check out their "band" that night at the local bar. Bookmark this thread and come back here when it happens.

As for the drumming aspect, I agree -- practice hitting things with sticks in a rhythmic fashion will indeed translate directly to real drums. I cannot argue with that.

Oh, last thing. To 'tom-the-lawn': 3 words -- Guitar World Subscription. } : - ) >

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:10 pm / quote |
LegsOnEarth :
UG needs to retake English language i think!
Drums in the first game were pretty bad

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
becker009 :
flame843 wrote:

These games are so boring...why not just play real guitar?


the people here saying things like this are completely missing the point. kwside95 has the right idea saying that nobody actually plays this game thinking that they are successfully substituting for the real things. while for some people playing real instruments just doesn't work out like Lemoninfluence said, the reason people play these games is because 1) they are actually FUN (something i actually doubt the "haters" accept), and 2) they allow you to play and interact with people that don't/can't play real instruments. imagine somebody like james hetfield playing rockband with his daughters. obviously his daughters probably aren't up to par on guitar like he is, but games like rockband and guitar hero allow people to play and spend time with people close to you otherwise. so yes, we know, it's only a game, it will never replace a real guitar, but stfu and just have fun.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:29 pm / quote |
TK1 :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


its under INDUSTRY NEWS!!!

it still ahs to do with music, its music related games. get the hell over it!

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:31 pm / quote |
AsianPirate :
spell check?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:37 pm / quote |
shoebox_of_lies :
i wonder how many rock bands and guitar heroes it'll take for them to just be able to plug in your actual guitar into the machine
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:38 pm / quote |
Anjohl :
I can tell you why Rock Band and GH are news worthy..because they are introducing more and more kids to good music, and to musical instruments.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:38 pm / quote |
Gregray88 :
I think they mean to spell "mike" as mic.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:39 pm / quote |
joecoolstheman :
replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao


I agree with you guys to a certain degree. But, it gives people who can't play a chance to see what it feels like. It can also be a stepping stone into real guitar. That was my case. I bought the first Guitar Hero and was like "this is so fun, I want to buy a real guitar." So don't knock it before you try it and don't be so judgmental.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:41 pm / quote |
toddos84 :
WOT?! Y DONT THEY JUST PLAY REEL GUITARS LOL
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:47 pm / quote |
WARLOCK123 :
lets face it guitar hero will always be better than rock band as its been out longer and is cheaper and more reliable. okay it has problems but who wants to go and spend over £150 to get 3 instruments when you can pay £65 and get guitar hero 3. what im saying is thatif you buy 3 instruments your gonna only be able to play 1 at a time. and if you want to have 4 people play rock band you would need to buy another guitar for someone to play bass
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:48 pm / quote |
Mix Master :
tom-the-lawn wrote:

Hexagram wrote:

It is a GAME. Stop treating it as something more and comparing it to real guitar people. As much as you want to moan and complain about how people take it too serious (which I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills) or how great they would be on a real guitar--please quiet yourself with these naive statements.

I will repeat for exaggerated effect--IT IS JUST A GAME
Yeah guys christ no one considers Guitar Hero and/or Rock Band a real instrument so stop making up bullshit that people do.
It's not ruining anything it's actually resulting in a lot of people buying real instruments (although it is much harder to find a copy of Guitar World these days).
But in the end it's just like 'nandexfranchise' said it's just a new medium for replacing cds.
That's why people have professional (yes) guitar hero tournaments and people that play the game even go to the music videos on youtube just to say they 100% the song in the game.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 12:49 pm / quote |
soadquake981 :
Wow.. I'm willing to bet that the "Overdrive Accelerometer" is a rip-off of Guitar Hero's Star Power. It'll probably be so that when you lean back with the guitar, it'll go into overdrive. Guitar Hero should sue
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:12 pm / quote |
sifon :
yeah i love rock band but i dont see why this is news here.

and rock band didnt rip off guitar hero. Harmonix made ****ing guitar hero 1 and 2. then they were bought by mtv and made rock band. so please, stop being ignorant

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:18 pm / quote |
FishStik :
Wow.. I'm willing to bet that the "Overdrive Accelerometer" is a rip-off of Guitar Hero's Star Power. It'll probably be so that when you lean back with the guitar, it'll go into overdrive. Guitar Hero should sue


Seeing as the makers of Rock Band are the same as the makers of Guitar Hero 1 and 2, I don't see why they should sue themselves.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:19 pm / quote |
perilouspete :
learn how to spell the word "mic."
and please, take an english class, it might help you look more professional when writing articles.
thanks.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:23 pm / quote |
megadethdefying :
ok i let the spelling of 'simmilar' go once, but a second time?! wake up, writers!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:33 pm / quote |
megadethdefying :
ok i've just seen 'mike' and 'Karoeke'. errr seriously guys, if you wanna send all you're articles to me to check them through for spelling, i'll just chuck it through microsoft word and spell check it - im willing to make that 5 second sacrifice.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:35 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave :
HoldYourColour wrote:

Rockband has improved my drumming and fill ideas

And its nice to sing along to something and to know if you're singing out of key or not


If you can't tell then you just can't sing

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:37 pm / quote |
Jonny892 :
"Harmonix is also releasing limited edition instruments. The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls"

hmmm.... is this the first of many?

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:42 pm / quote |
FishStik :
toddos84 wrote:

WOT?! Y DONT THEY JUST PLAY REEL GUITARS LOL


LOL?! Y DUNT JOO LURN HOE TWO SPEEL FIRST LOL WOT!!?

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:45 pm / quote |
tonedeafidiot :
Mix Master wrote:

tom-the-lawn wrote:

Hexagram wrote:

It is a GAME. Stop treating it as something more and comparing it to real guitar people. As much as you want to moan and complain about how people take it too serious (which I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills) or how great they would be on a real guitar--please quiet yourself with these naive statements.

I will repeat for exaggerated effect--IT IS JUST A GAME
Yeah guys christ no one considers Guitar Hero and/or Rock Band a real instrument so stop making up bullshit that people do.
It's not ruining anything it's actually resulting in a lot of people buying real instruments (although it is much harder to find a copy of Guitar World these days).
But in the end it's just like 'nandexfranchise' said it's just a new medium for replacing cds.That's why people have professional (yes) guitar hero tournaments and people that play the game even go to the music videos on youtube just to say they 100% the song in the game.


People post videos on youtube showing how they FC'd a song on expert and host tournaments because it requires skill, just like any other video game.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:46 pm / quote |
mdlarry7 :
for those of you who dont think this is a relevant article, it is. This cite provides all kinds of news articles related to all things going on in rock music, these games are very popular among musicians so why not have it as news
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:47 pm / quote |
SLD.Potato :
Oh God, somebody get this kid a spelling dictionary!!!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:58 pm / quote |
GuitarJoker :
First off this(Ultimate-guitar.com) is a music website and Rock Band 2 has to do with music.

Rock Band is a good game people just get over dramatic about it. who really cares how good you are.


In my opinion i'd rather play real guitar, real bass, real drums, and possibly sing.;

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 01:58 pm / quote |
tona_107 :
it reads like a twelve year old wrote it.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:00 pm / quote |
stevezy :
sooo many misspellings....simmilar? cymbols? acurate? retrofited? rienforced?

who wrote this article, a second-grader?

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:00 pm / quote |
BeanieM2B :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


well you're right it is about music, but since rock band is a music-based game and it is marketed to musicians such as ourselves then why shouldnt it be previewed on here? im not tryin to sound rude or anything but if you're not a fan then don't bother reading the article

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:02 pm / quote |
BeanieM2B :
FishStik wrote:

Wow.. I'm willing to bet that the "Overdrive Accelerometer" is a rip-off of Guitar Hero's Star Power. It'll probably be so that when you lean back with the guitar, it'll go into overdrive. Guitar Hero should sue


Seeing as the makers of Rock Band are the same as the makers of Guitar Hero 1 and 2, I don't see why they should sue themselves.


theyre not quite the same, harmonix don't work on guitar hero anymore after activision took over. redoctane make the GH controllers but harmonix make their own for rock band. theyve already had legal battles about things like this, i think thats why it was automatic in the first game rather than activated by player

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:08 pm / quote |
Lgndkllr777 :
MangeuDePoutine wrote:

People are exaggerating with these game, they take it too much serious (not everyone but a lot yes). I mean, just type Guitar on goole, more than 50% of image will be for Guitar Hero. Try the same thing with Rock... That can be a fun game, but most of people are exaggerating with this game. They do contest, they thing this is serious they post video on youtube, dude you suck this is just a game and there still people who like this... My opinion...


Actually, google shows 2 Guitar Hero results on page one, and 1 rock band result on Page two if you search for "Guitar" on Google Images.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:36 pm / quote |
cavalier14 :
Its Guitar Hero IV...not world tour. world tour is only for the Nintendo DS.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:40 pm / quote |
Mr.LeadGuitar :
Hp312 wrote:

The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls

Dear god.
I have no problem with Guitar Hero and Rock Band as they are like many have said before, JUST GAMES, but this shocked me, an actual fender strat with buttons, thats murdering a really nice guitar in my eyes, a great arguement for the "Why not just play real guitar"


I completely agree with you, and with everything else people are saying. I'm just the messenger. I just posted this to get credit for my account. But yeah. Even a set list is a bit rediculous. The only reason i posted this is cause of the limited edition "Real Instruments", cause they're, well, real instruments.

BeanieM2B wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


well you're right it is about music, but since rock band is a music-based game and it is marketed to musicians such as ourselves then why shouldnt it be previewed on here? im not tryin to sound rude or anything but if you're not a fan then don't bother reading the article


And Thank you, BeanieM2B

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:41 pm / quote |
Mr.LeadGuitar :
cavalier14 wrote:

Its Guitar Hero IV...not world tour. world tour is only for the Nintendo DS.


No. Guitar Hero "On Tour" is for the DS; Guitar Hero "World" Tour is GHIV

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:43 pm / quote |
foofighter4ever :
personally, i see no problem with this. let's face it. to be decent at any instrument u need quite a bit of practice. then to play in a band situation, u need a little bit more. then to play in front of people, u need more. rock band cuts a lot of that out for people that like music, but dont want to bust their ass to be able to really play it. its pretty much a reflection of our results based society. instead of i might be able to play that in a day if i practice, i CAN play this right now without practice. we musicians might actually want to appreciate this game because not only does it make people appreciate music more, but it is also one less person we would need to compete with. thats just my take on it
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
King Herman III :
I started playing guitar before guitar hero came out, and it surprisingly helped me with the speed of my picking and fret hand. There is no substitute for the real thing, but these games CAN help you along the way. i.e Rock Band's drums help you develop a better rythem.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:50 pm / quote |
WaveCaster97 :
why does everyone assume that if everyone who played guitar hero/rock band made a real band they would be good? and again everyone assumes that not a single person out there is learning real guitar and plays guitar hero/rock band once in a while like its against the law to do both and also its not the first game to ever have a competition get over it with your logic anyone who plays Call of Duty 4 really thinks they are in a special ops team nobody has ever gotten video games confused with reality so stop being so damn ignorant
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:52 pm / quote |
ch715dallat :
they spelled similar wrong the whole way through that article lol
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 02:55 pm / quote |
wolsey013 :
um...can the uk ps3 owners have rock band 1 first please?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:01 pm / quote |
TheSound :
cymbals*
mic*

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:10 pm / quote |
drummerdawg77 :
hey guys, what's a cymbol? come on, the word is underlined already!! (in firefox, it auto spell checks) there's absolutely NO reason that you guys can't spell check your stuff.. just copy and paste it into Word and press f7, it takes all of two minutes.

..professionalism?

and btw, everybody honestly needs to shut the hell up about comparing rock band/guitar hero to real life, WE KNOW THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! WE NEVER EVEN SAY THERE IS ONE!! you've been literally telling us for years, and its sad to see people still bringing it up, i swear, some people are just too stupid and ignorant to get it.

it's an article about new equipment, and SOMEHOW this whole issue comes up again. it's downright pathetic.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |
Chris_Parker :
It was painful to read this with so many grammatical errors. That it was openly subjective.

And the only things that could be "confused with reality" are singing and drumming. Granted, there are more techiniques involved with real drumming not "taught" in the game(s), but if you can sing on expert, chances are you have good pitch.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:21 pm / quote |
XnaySaturo :
CYMBOLS!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:44 pm / quote |
nosaj89 :
I don't know if anybody has suggested this before, but how hard would it be to be able to connect an actual gutiar to an xbox/ps3/whatever and have a game that runs tab through the screen while you play along to songs. the game could recognize the notes. this would be a good alternative to gh/rb for the real guitar players, or a good learning tool for beginners.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:44 pm / quote |
washburn0c03 :
I think that we can agree that UG has awesome tabs (for the most part) and awful news (for the most part)
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:47 pm / quote |
 
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Mix Master wrote:
That's why people have professional (yes) guitar hero tournaments and people that play the game even go to the music videos on youtube just to say they 100% the song in the game.


there are tournaments for almost all multiplayer games and professional ones for most of the popular ones. And search for almost any game on youtube and you'll find videos of people beating a hard boss or explaining how to find the puzzle piece or how to exploit a glitch in the game to earn 20x the normal amount of points. it's not just isolated to guitar hero and rock band.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:56 pm / quote |
rocker20 :
Hp312 wrote:

The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls

Dear god.
I have no problem with Guitar Hero and Rock Band as they are like many have said before, JUST GAMES, but this shocked me, an actual fender strat with buttons, thats murdering a really nice guitar in my eyes, a great arguement for the "Why not just play real guitar"


guitar hero moddled off of gibsion

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 03:57 pm / quote |
MCRkid22 :
First of all, next time you write an artical, use the goddamn spellcheck. It's very hard to take an article seriously that is misspelled, and I'm not being a dick, I'm helpin you out.

Next, never write a rock band article for ****ing ultimate-guitar. We're real guitarists here.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:05 pm / quote |
manutd4lyf :
This is a piss take to everyone who bought the first Rock Band instruments. Thank God I didn't!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:17 pm / quote |
KingCheesehead :
I'm pumped. This game's setlist is amazing.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:18 pm / quote |
Guitar_Poet :
replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao


ive never met anyone who felt that playing GH or rockband was anything like playing the real instrument, let alone any sort of significant accomplishment. everyone i know just enjoys the games because a) theyre fun and b) they dont have the desire or luxury to invest enough time into playing a real instrument, so these games are a fun alternative. and as you said, theyre just games anyway.. why hate on them so much? [unless i missed some sort of sarcasm].

i still have yet to play the first rockband, but i still want to try it. improvement of materials is always a plus; hope they dont charge much more for it.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:18 pm / quote |
GotADeathWish? :
[P|E|R|S|O|N] wrote:

pics or it didnt happen..


seriously, it sounds too good to be true!
but sick.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:19 pm / quote |
Guitar_Poet :
MCRkid22 wrote:

First of all, next time you write an artical, use the goddamn spellcheck.


irony! love it.

could have used a grammar check as well, since we're on the topic. then again, couldnt we all? =)

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:20 pm / quote |
GotADeathWish? :
Guitar_Poet wrote:

replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao




well I've got about four friends that decided to take up guitar because of games like Rock Band and GH.



POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:21 pm / quote |
washburn0c03 :
lol sorry about my last comment I didn't read the rest of the posts because I was making lunch. This is an okay article but I still feel like UG could do alot better in their news section. Secondly for the people who say nobody takes this game that seriously I know MANY people who are guitar hero/rock band OBSESSED!!! Plus there is all the kids out there saying "OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMG DRAGONFORCE IS THE BEST BAND ON THE PLANET OMGOMGOGOGMMOGMG SO IS METALLICA OMGOGMOGMOGOGMGOMG I AM THE BIGGEST METALLICA AND DRAGONFORCE FAN ON THE PLANET" but when you ask them for a list of songs they can only come up with "through the fire and flames" and "one". I have also heard many people say "oh man I would be a kick ass guitar player I just don't have the money" when asked why they think this the response is usually like this "well I beat guitar hero on hard yesterday and I'm already half way through expert so thats gotta count for something". I am also not trying to be a dink I am just saying alot of people take these games VERY seriously.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:22 pm / quote |
Scourge441 :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

It's a music-based game.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:23 pm / quote |
tonedeafidiot :
MCRkid22 wrote:

First of all, next time you write an artical, use the goddamn spellcheck. It's very hard to take an article seriously that is misspelled, and I'm not being a dick, I'm helpin you out.

Next, never write a rock band article for ****ing ultimate-guitar. We're real guitarists here.


1. Looks like you didn't use it either...

2. I am getting really sick of people on this site hating on rock band and guitar hero. I know a ton of dancers and they don't have a problem with DDR, so why do guitarist take RB and GH so seriously?

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:26 pm / quote |
pwrmax :
first game or most simmilar instruments


optional add-on cymbols


Who writes these articles?



POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:36 pm / quote |
the metal99 :
soadquake981 wrote:

Wow.. I'm willing to bet that the "Overdrive Accelerometer" is a rip-off of Guitar Hero's Star Power. It'll probably be so that when you lean back with the guitar, it'll go into overdrive. Guitar Hero should sue

the original makers of guitar hero made rock band..

and for you ****heads.. the games are for gamers, for fun. i started on guitar hero and i play the real shit now, may not be outstanding but i know the basics + some.
eat a dick

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:40 pm / quote |
TheSilverBeatle :
Dear god must everyone ****ing talk about how playing Rock Band and Guitar Hero is killing guitar, or say "PICK UP A REAL GUITAR LOLZZZZZ I AM SO BAD AZZ" you are some of the dumbest people I've ever known.

Why don't you go grow a mustache put on a red hat and kill some turtles like I do instead of playing Mario!

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:46 pm / quote |
LT 559 SARGE :
they probably paid ug for all the promotion
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:52 pm / quote |
mashedpotatoes :
pwrmax wrote:

first game or most simmilar instruments

optional add-on cymbols

Who writes these articles?




Nerds

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 04:53 pm / quote |
murdoc66 :
This artical needs editing.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 05:02 pm / quote |
radioplay :
replica_ wrote:

one more thing..ever see the advert for rock band? might be different in the US but...the advert is all young people (student like) prancing about on stage playing rock band lol kinda speaks for itself really...at least the GH advert is slightly easier to believe in that the people are in their bedroom. for me its seems as though its killing guitar more than promoting or giving notice to actual guitar playing.



the advertisements not as bad here,though still poor. Im talking about the one where four 18ish year olds walk into a house with screaming fans (which makes no sense to start) and bust out Welcome-Coheed & Cambria. Its not a great ad.

At least i think that ones rock band, not GH.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 05:05 pm / quote |
dave_dono :
was this article even proofread? i found at least 4 misspellings. plus i agree with everyone saying that this is dumb to have on this site. i'm fine with guitar hero and stuff like that, but when it comes to paying more for a game and it's crappy peripheral components than you do for your console itself it makes me sick. i own GH 2 and 3, and am proud to say i will not be purchasing rock band or anymore editions guitar hero because of the tripling price. that is all i have to say about that. have a nice day!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 05:43 pm / quote |
Liam616 :
better instruments? FFS its plastic game controllers.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 05:54 pm / quote |
!normajean! :
i want a DOUBLE BASS PEDAL
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 05:56 pm / quote |
-LAW- :
hahahaha! "better instruments" to use to control a game? shiddy plastic controllers more like!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:04 pm / quote |
Mr.LeadGuitar :
MCRkid22 wrote:

First of all, next time you write an artical, use the goddamn spellcheck. It's very hard to take an article seriously that is misspelled, and I'm not being a dick, I'm helpin you out.

Next, never write a rock band article for ****ing ultimate-guitar. We're real guitarists here.


The first thing, about the spell check thing, sure. no problem. i cant spell for my life. the second thing, about the "never put another rock band article on this site again" thing. Can't and won't promise that. The game increases finger dexterity, as several people said. Also, i focused on the drums and the mic, cause they are the most realistic, concidering the new and improved drum peripheral. and besides, it's a music game, this is a music site, with a news and review section. An article like this was bound to happen. Why aren't people bithing about the numerous set list arcticles? They're less informative than an article like mine.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:06 pm / quote |
superchris :
for the people getting touchy about this being covered; its in 'music news', therefore making it not specifically refined to guitar content, and as the game is based on musical releases reproduced in game format, i see that as music news?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:42 pm / quote |
JmasterJ :
The reason why UG posts news about GH and RB is because its a good game and people play the songs they make and because this is a music site
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:45 pm / quote |
AmpleSteak :
Wow this is great making us buy completely new instruments when we spent over 200$ on the first ones YEAHHH!
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Thefallofman :
This is REALLY poorly written.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:06 pm / quote |
the boogieman :
replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao


why play a real instrument when you can create your own songs in the upcoming guitar hero

lawl, jk


anyways, sure they're making the instruments better but it doesnt do anything to try and make the experience more lifelike for both the guitar

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:27 pm / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD :
One other new inprovement (which, in my opinion, is the best one for the new game) is the addition of optional add-on cymbols, which are available in a bonus pack. The cymbols, when added on, represent the yellow, blue, and green pads, giving you more range, a more realistic feel, and the option between using the corresponding cymbols or drum pads.


It seems like the stupidest in my opinion. They dont really add anything except sounds to the game, and one of the pads sounds like a cymbol to start with. All they do is change the sound, which for a music rhythm GAME is not neccesary. I love Rock Band, but im not gonna be buying any of the new instruments. My drumset and mic still work fine, and I have two GH guitars I bought that work better than RBs guitar. They are fun games, but I just hate the people who act like the shit is real. I also hate how many music posers the game has created. Now all these people think, "OMG Killswitch engage is my favorite band I love them!" when the only song they have heard is the one on the game. I mean sure, it helps you discover new music, but I wouldnt claim them as a favorite unless I listened to some more music by them. Those people who act like GH and RB are real need to get a real life. I mean its a fun game, but its just a game.

Oh and this is another poorly written article by UG.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:32 pm / quote |
Sirwinston89 :
I don't see how guitar hero and rock band are possibly killing guitar. Unless karaoke (sp?) and DDR have killed singing and dancing and I haven't noticed, that is. And to WaveCaster97, lots of people have confused reality with video games. Ever hear of all those so called "Grand Theft Auto Shootings", or Columbine? Granted, these people were pretty messed up to begin with, but it can and does happen.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:38 pm / quote |
jimmiew :
Well, i must say ive seen a bit of damage to real musicians from this game.

I used to have a bit of a band going with some mates and then once rockband came out they (2 brothers, younger a guitarist, older a drummer) completely stopped playing actual instruments... It kills me everytime I see it because they completely gave up an actual talent to be able to say "I can play "insert random song that used to be good here" on expert!!!"

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 07:58 pm / quote |
 
 m 
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jimmiew wrote:

Well, i must say ive seen a bit of damage to real musicians from this game.

I used to have a bit of a band going with some mates and then once rockband came out they (2 brothers, younger a guitarist, older a drummer) completely stopped playing actual instruments... It kills me everytime I see it because they completely gave up an actual talent to be able to say "I can play "insert random song that used to be good here" on expert!!!"


if they give up to play a video game, they wouldn't have got anywhere even if the game hadn't come out. something else would have done it.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 08:01 pm / quote |
tavi620 :
Ok Rock Band and Guitar Hero haters, here's a few things:
1. This is on UG because it's a MUSIC game that includes REAL BANDS' songs, thus it belongs in the general music section.
2. Who honestly do you know says, "Gee, I can play 'One' on expert so I can play it in real life," or, "I bet I'm better than a real guitarist because I can beat the game on expert." Who do I ask have you ever met that says that? Because I personally have NEVER met anyone who has ever said that, and if you somehow do meet someone who says that, I'm pretty sure that not ALL GH and RB players feel that way. Honestly, you people must know some of the most unintelligent basement dwellers that ever existed.
3. The game is a great way to listen to good songs, it's a stress reliever (sometimes...), and something fun to do with your friends. Who cares if places have guitar hero nights like a karaoke night? So what? What does it matter? It's a fun way to just pass some time, what does it matter to you? Is it hurting your favorite band? Are people putting a gun to your head and making you play it? ....they aren't? Then shut the f*** up!

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 08:24 pm / quote |
Zeppelin/DC 56 :
If it is a real Fender Stratocaster with buttons then it should at least cost what a Standard Mexican Stratocaster costs, $400.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 08:30 pm / quote |
Phax :
Jesus, people whine so much on how people should play real guitar instead and it's getting quite annoying, this game was made for entertainment, for people who like to have fun with friends who don't play guitar or any other instrument. I don't hear people complaining about DDR and real dancing or complaining about Time Crisis and shooting on other forums. I guess UG is filled with idiots.

Guitar Hero and Rock Band is only helping out the guitar community. I have no idea how it would hurt it.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 08:43 pm / quote |
 
 m 
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*checked*

no more comments about the spelling/grammar. You aren't the first to notice it, chances are you won't be the last.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 08:54 pm / quote |
nickrawkz1 :
That sounds really cool.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:09 pm / quote |
vans1170 :
i think all of the time spent on arguing about guitar hero/rock band/whatever, both sides of the arguement, you could have written 2112 50 times over.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:16 pm / quote |
Lrn2play :
meh i dont think any of you can really talk trash about guitar hero or rock band and how your playing other peoples songs when this is being debated over a guitar tab site, where, get this, your learning to play other peoples songs
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 09:44 pm / quote |
guthix777 :
Hp312 wrote:

The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls

Dear god.
I have no problem with Guitar Hero and Rock Band as they are like many have said before, JUST GAMES, but this shocked me, an actual fender strat with buttons, thats murdering a really nice guitar in my eyes, a great arguement for the "Why not just play real guitar"


I've seen pics. they are just squiers.

I played guitar befor GH 1 came out. It's a fun GAME that has introduced me to songs I've never heard before. It's obviously a game, but I have a friend that picked up a guitar for the first time because of it. The game motivated him to learn guitar for real.

Finally, RB Drums has tought me drum patterns that i've learned to apply elsewhere.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:05 pm / quote |
koalabacon :
jeez. noone can have fun anymore. i love playing guitar, but i still have fun playing GH and RB.

everyone needs to lighten up.

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:21 pm / quote |
joker_thief :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


i know. i hate how SOME people can take it too serious and ur like,"dude no one cares if you got 100% on expert, move out of your mom's house and get a ****in job!"

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:27 pm / quote |
Shaned :
i like guitar hero/rockband with my friends, because they're all non musical inclined noobs
so we can like "jam" in a fun way for both of us

and IMO it's fun playing the solos in GH that are realllly damn hard in real life that i can't do because i'm not amazing at the physical guitar

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:41 pm / quote |
Neverhead666 :
replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao


Enemies Of Reality. you sir, are that much cooler for the use of a Nevermore reference. ALL HAIL JEFF LOOMIS

POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 10:50 pm / quote |
A-440 :
so i play guitar and i'm in a couple of bands and i play rock band and guitar hero. i mean shit i can't like stealing cars and murdering people just as much as i like playing gta 4? give me a break.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:05 pm / quote |
pkweon :
so rock band 2 is gonna cost another 200 bucks?
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 11:13 pm / quote |
ExtremeMetalFTW :
didnt peavy make guitar controlers out of "real" instruments already?
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 12:19 am / quote |
0h The Horror :
Anyone else waiting for Piano Hero, just to see how far these game companies will take this?
And lolmikelolol.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 12:26 am / quote |
Kegan :
Lemoninfluence

m
:
jimmiew wrote:

Well, i must say ive seen a bit of damage to real musicians from this game.

I used to have a bit of a band going with some mates and then once rockband came out they (2 brothers, younger a guitarist, older a drummer) completely stopped playing actual instruments... It kills me everytime I see it because they completely gave up an actual talent to be able to say "I can play "insert random song that used to be good here" on expert!!!"


if they give up to play a video game, they wouldn't have got anywhere even if the game hadn't come out. something else would have done it.
POSTED: 07/21/2008 - 081 pm / quote

What makes you think so?
I have plenty of friends who spend time on guitar hero and rock band instead of playing real guitar; certainly, they'd be better at guitar if they spent that time learning scales and solos.

And, as far as that whole "rock band isn't effecting the music community" argument goes, I think it's arguable that Guitar Hero and Rock band could very well be leaving a negative impact in the music industry. (Singing games aren't affecting musicians nearly as much not only because anyone can sing, but also because it teaches you to sing in a near-perfect way. From what I've read, at least.)
While some people are learning guitar because of the games, I feel that a fair percentage of people could also be putting down their instruments in favor of plastic controllers. If it weren't for the world's ever-growing population and those who do pick up guitar, bass or drums because of the game, I feel that guitar hero could put a major dent in the US music scene. I know it gets to me when I can't start a band with any of my friends because they're busy playing rock band. Sure, it's their choice, and I suppose I've got no right to tell them to invest the time I have in guitar, but it is having an effect on teenagers. There's no sense in pretending rhythm games aren't affecting whether or not kids my age start bands.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 01:36 am / quote |
viento :
piano hero? c'mon
flute hero might be the next best thing... unless you're in jail

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 01:36 am / quote |
nds711d :
they did the whole real guitar with controller add-ons for guitar hero 2. so it's that outrageous when it's been done already. quit freakin out.
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 02:03 am / quote |
t_godin :
i dont care. i play real guitar but i still love rock band. the drums are amazing to play and i can imagine it will only get better in rock band 2. love that game!
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 02:17 am / quote |
Cloud147 :
I love how people in this site always say "learn to play the real thing" without thinking that some people don't have the money, time, or skill to do it. Learning to play an instrument can be quite tedious, so why should they do it, if they only want to PLAY and HAVE FUN for a little while, instead of having to practice everyday and make shitty music.
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 02:26 am / quote |
Cobalt Blue :
geee I wonder if there would be so much complaining if they advertised a sports game on a sports website "**** man it's a stupid game go out and buy a hockey stick and skates you ****ing nubz"
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 02:30 am / quote |
lachlandavis :
Is it supposed to be Funny to call it a MIKE? COZ IT PHAILS! Its called a Mic*
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 02:45 am / quote |
Eating_a_book :
Faze 25 pretty much sums it up

I know shit loads of people who say they love Nirvana because they have heard Smells like teen spirit but I dont call them posers or losers, I just recommend more of their good songs.

And for **** sake why do these retards keep reading articles about things that they hate?

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 03:16 am / quote |
Phax :
viento :
piano hero? c'mon
flute hero might be the next best thing... unless you're in jail


I could see piano hero actually teaching people learn how to play the piano haha.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 03:18 am / quote |
snaaake :
Nobody thinks they can play a real guitar if they're good at Guitar Hero, and few people think being good at Guitar Hero is an important accomplishment.

I don't know why so many people feel that their instrumental prowess threatened whenever they hear people talk about this game.

Get over it, honestly.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 04:25 am / quote |
mjbmjbmjb123 :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


well your the one looking at them

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 04:36 am / quote |
WARLOCK123 :
They are good games and they inspire people to learn a real instrument. but there are soo many kids who have played guitar hero or rock band and think they can play guitar. my guitar teacher was talking about it with me. he told me his friends son went up to his dad and said "dad i can play guitar!" and the dad said "no you cant" and then the son said "but i got to level 10 on guitar hero". then the dad said "you cant play guitar, you can play a video game"
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 05:50 am / quote |
Regression :
Mix Master wrote:

That's why people have professional (yes) guitar hero tournaments and people that play the game even go to the music videos on youtube just to say they 100% the song in the game.


Yeah, but you think those people would ever bother picking up real guitar anyway?

Also, my friend is the top in New Zealand at it, and he is pretty good at real guitar too. And in a band.

He actually says it helped him with his guitar playing, and it also motivated him to practice more.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 06:18 am / quote |
a6l6e6x1 :
the setlist for this game is terrible!!!!!
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 07:52 am / quote |
fendercopyuser :
what i'm wondering is if there exist such guys as the one from the south park episode making fun of guitar hero in which that freak is able to play a buckethead-song unplugged
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 08:13 am / quote |
 
 m 
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Kegan wrote:
What makes you think so?
I have plenty of friends who spend time on guitar hero and rock band instead of playing real guitar; certainly, they'd be better at guitar if they spent that time learning scales and solos.

Because they enjoy the game more than the real thing, they can't exactly be described as devoted to their instrument, so they wouldn't have the determination in order to make it anywhere in the music industry.

And, as far as that whole "rock band isn't effecting the music community" argument goes, I think it's arguable that Guitar Hero and Rock band could very well be leaving a negative impact in the music industry. (Singing games aren't affecting musicians nearly as much not only because anyone can sing, but also because it teaches you to sing in a near-perfect way. From what I've read, at least.)
you've obviously not heard people play singstar if you think it teaches them proper technique.

While some people are learning guitar because of the games, I feel that a fair percentage of people could also be putting down their instruments in favor of plastic controllers.
these people who do give up are no big loss, as they wouldn't have got anywhere anyway.

And again...

no more comments about the spelling/grammar.



POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 08:44 am / quote |
devilex121 :
you guys shouldnt blame the game too much!
i never played rock band but i played guitar hero and its fun and its helped the fingers on my left hand get faster and now my left hand dexterity is really good!

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 09:23 am / quote |
Kegan :
That singstar thing made me laugh. I do think some people who go after that kind of game will get somewhat better at singing, though.

The whole rock band/guitar hero made this or that person start/quit an instrument scenario is a highly personal one. It's different from person to person, experience to experience, so I won't really make any assumptions. All the Same, the fact that my friends won't put down their plastic guitars in favor of their electric ones is disheartening. They don't have to be guitar virtuosos to jam now and then.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:35 am / quote |
Wildcard24 :
the fact that my friends won't put down their plastic guitars in favor of their electric ones is disheartening.


I sooo agree with you in that one Kegan.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:44 am / quote |
Magero :
Kegan wrote:

That singstar thing made me laugh. I do think some people who go after that kind of game will get somewhat better at singing, though.

The whole rock band/guitar hero made this or that person start/quit an instrument scenario is a highly personal one. It's different from person to person, experience to experience, so I won't really make any assumptions. All the Same, the fact that my friends won't put down their plastic guitars in favor of their electric ones is disheartening. They don't have to be guitar virtuosos to jam now and then.

1. You obviously haven't seen that many 16 year old girls playing singstar at a party for about 4 hours straight. You put up with that at about 12 parties with the same girls, you realise that ain't getting any better.

2. As Lemoninfluence pointed out, if people stop playing guitar to play guitar hero, then they obviously don't have the drive to get anywhere with real guitar anyway. I have a good friend, we used to play Guitar hero for hours on end, BUT, no matter how long we played guitar hero, we played guitar for just aslong. He beat GH3 on Expert in about a week and he still practices guitar at least an hour a day.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:46 am / quote |
Local666Union :
I liked the GH series, and I fail to understand why do people bash it but I think that it's getting annoying because they keep making these games instead of just putting expantion packs...why do we have to buy a new game all the time?
BTW- Isn't UG about REAL guitar?

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:47 am / quote |
Bassist87 :
Harmonix is also releasing limited edition instruments. The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls,


I think thats a waste of a very sweet guitar. I would give anything for a fender Stratocaster.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:56 am / quote |
YngwieJnr :
I know the dude in the rock band advert who sings...with the long red hair. Well that's in the Uk advert anyway.
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 11:12 am / quote |
Goomba_92 :
This is so retarded. Why does Guitar Hero and Rock Band get so much attention on this website? And what really pisses me off is that these games are sold at Guitar Center. I just don't see why these games are such big deals
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 11:20 am / quote |
theotherguy7145 :
mjbmjbmjb123 wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


well your the one looking at them


I was checking out the music news, and wanted to see what was differant about the instuments. I have played the games before, and honestly, i prefer the real thing.

Goomba_92 wrote:

This is so retarded. Why does Guitar Hero and Rock Band get so much attention on this website? And what really pisses me off is that these games are sold at Guitar Center. I just don't see why these games are such big deals


I agree!

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 12:04 pm / quote |
Kegan :
Magero wrote:

Kegan wrote:

That singstar thing made me laugh. I do think some people who go after that kind of game will get somewhat better at singing, though.

The whole rock band/guitar hero made this or that person start/quit an instrument scenario is a highly personal one. It's different from person to person, experience to experience, so I won't really make any assumptions. All the Same, the fact that my friends won't put down their plastic guitars in favor of their electric ones is disheartening. They don't have to be guitar virtuosos to jam now and then.
1. You obviously haven't seen that many 16 year old girls playing singstar at a party for about 4 hours straight. You put up with that at about 12 parties with the same girls, you realise that ain't getting any better.

2. As Lemoninfluence pointed out, if people stop playing guitar to play guitar hero, then they obviously don't have the drive to get anywhere with real guitar anyway. I have a good friend, we used to play Guitar hero for hours on end, BUT, no matter how long we played guitar hero, we played guitar for just aslong. He beat GH3 on Expert in about a week and he still practices guitar at least an hour a day.


As a mentioned before, that sort of scenario differs from person to person. Just because you and your friend play guitar as often as guitar hero does not necessarily mean everyone else manages their time in the same way.

And, again, while some people who quit instruments for guitar hero aren't actually interested in guitar in the first place, there are still people who spend their time on guitar hero instead of practicing. Again, that's their choice and I can't fault them for it (because they enjoy it more, and why not do what you enjoy?), but that situation does occur.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 04:09 pm / quote |
Mr.LeadGuitar :
Bassist87 wrote:

Harmonix is also releasing limited edition instruments. The two announced were an actual Fender Stratocaster retrofited with the Rock Band input controls,


I think thats a waste of a very sweet guitar. I would give anything for a fender Stratocaster.


You have no idea how much i agree with you. The drum kit that works in both the game and as a real drum kit sounds cool, but the guitar is a waste of wood and metal, and i'd rather have a real Strat than a choped and Fucked with guitar that most likely costs more than an actual Strat and probably wont work as a real guitar. God what a waste of time, effort, and money.


And for a bit of comic relief and joke about my atrocious spelling and grammer (atrocious spelled correctly), CYMBOLS!!!!! lol sry bout that. idk what was up with me that day.

POSTED: 07/28/2008 - 01:46 pm / quote |
Intersting :
Where did this guy learn to spell.....Cymbols?
POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 12:07 pm / quote |
RikcyG27xx :
fob12 wrote:

I saw a video for a drum set that's optional to buy for this, and man, it's a real drum set. It's got the symbols, the high hat, all the other things, and it's metal or something too so it doesn't break, you can even have double kickers. That would be so much fun to play. It would be like being in a real band for a drummer if they get the songs right.


haaha yea it's supposed to be great i saw it in a magazine , for 300 $ but for how good it is , if your really that into the game it's worth it

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 01:41 pm / quote |
RikcyG27xx :
Regression wrote:
He actually says it helped him with his guitar playing, and it also motivated him to practice more.

i mostly agree with this statement except that the only thing GH really help with on a real guitar is finger movement speed and motivation , GH got me interested in real guitar and i try so , i do agree that GH can help you learn how to play but it doesn't necessarily , oh and if this sounds rude , it's not intended to be :P

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 01:48 pm / quote |
ChoPxSueY :
theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!


If UG is JUST about guitars then why do we have the pit? Do you honestly think they would have this many people reading so frequently if it was JUST about guitars. Lighten up.

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 02:50 pm / quote |
clawsofsteel :
I'm SURPRISED that no one's brought up the point of playing Rockband for the DRUMS, and or MIC. Not for the GUITAR or BASS.

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 03:11 pm / quote |
renevr93 :
why strats dude?

couldnt they keep on the gibsons

like explorer and les pau or even get something new like a flying v

strats suck...

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 08:58 pm / quote |
In Vitro :
tom-the-lawn wrote:

Hexagram wrote:

It is a GAME. Stop treating it as something more and comparing it to real guitar people. As much as you want to moan and complain about how people take it too serious (which I have yet to meet someone who compares their guitar hero skills to their guitar skills) or how great they would be on a real guitar--please quiet yourself with these naive statements.

Yeah guys christ no one considers Guitar Hero and/or Rock Band a real instrument so stop making up bullshit that people do.


Sadly, I know quite a few people who play GH and RB and constantly brag how great they are at playing guitar when they haven't ever even picked one up.

POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 09:48 pm / quote |
Ytse-Jam :
ironman316 wrote:

sooo many typo's... lol


but i'm probably gonna get guitar hero world tour. it seems better made.


haha, typo's in itself is a typo. what's the point of that apostrophe? Doesn't replace anything, therefore, it's a typo. But aye, belongs on gaming sites!

POSTED: 09/02/2008 - 04:02 am / quote |
ginger ninja102 :
what i think is halarious is that kid who got a 100% on through the fire and the flames acting all cool and defending himself when kids called him a nerd and stuff like that
replica_ wrote:

theotherguy7145 wrote:

Isn't Ultimate Guitar about music news, not games?
Why is GH and Rock band getting so much media, is only a game!

yeah i agree. although rock band and GH is all well and fun, people treat it like as though theyre playing an actual instrument. :S like as though its an accomplishment of significant importance and virtuosity. but they will never be able to grasp the fact that the best game is REAL GUITAR in a REAL BAND! lol THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF REALITY! lmao

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 04:57 am / quote |
devinpalacios :
Dear spelling elitists: Stfu.
All you are doing is merely attacking other people for poor spelling. It reflects poorly on yourselves.
Guitar hero and Rockband are very fun, but, yes, all the "100% on Expert lolz" videos on Youtube piss me off. When I get together with my friends to play Rock Band or Guitar Hero, we set it to expert and laugh our asses off when we fail majorly, but other days, we go and jam with real instruments.

Guitar Hero/Rockband= Fun.
Guitar Hero/Rockband Pros= Faggots.

On a side note, isn't Gibson suing Guitar Hero for using the Gibson name on their controllers?

POSTED: 10/10/2008 - 11:58 am / quote |
sydvicious :
the dude anove me's comment- +1bazillion
POSTED: 10/19/2008 - 12:51 am / quote |
sydvicious :
the dude above me's comment- +1bazillion
POSTED: 10/19/2008 - 12:51 am / quote |
hatecrewtabber :
Wow the limited edition guitar is massive overkill, I think I might puke.
POSTED: 10/27/2008 - 02:58 am / quote |
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