Duff McKagan: 'America Isn't Very Rock 'N' Roll Anymore'

Rob Haynes of Metro.co.uk recently conducted a short interview with bassist Duff McKagan (Velvet Revolver, Guns N' Roses, Loaded). An excerpt from the chat follows below.

Metro.co.uk: You've worked with two of the most charismatic vocalists in rock: what did you learn?

Duff: Axl [Rose] is a kick-ass frontman, he throws everything into it, and Scott Weiland is great, although completely different. I'm sure I've learned different things from both of them, you can't help but do that a little. I'm sure I've learned things about guitar playing from Slash, too.

Why tour [in the UK with Loaded] and not in America?

It seemed the right thing for this band. Audiences in the UK seem to understand the type of rock'n'roll I like to play. The UK is the first place Guns N' Roses and Velvet Revolver broke. I'm not too sure about playing the States. Frankly, America isn't very rock 'n' roll anymore.

What's the situation with Velvet Revolver?

Well, we have the next record written; it was done before the last tour was over. But we have so many singers who have submitted audition tapes that we have to listen to them all critically without getting burned out. There's too many singers! But we'll figure it out.

Read the entire interview at Metro.co.uk.

Comments

[cocodrilo83]

THE WORLD isn't very rock 'n roll anymore, he seems alright none the less.

[The_String_Man]

maybe he's right, it isn't anymore, but rock 'n roll will rise again just like a blazing phoenix.or whatever lol.

[LifesSweetDrug]

At least some bands play in the UK

[.QOTSA.]

UK!

[lilboisX3]

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

[m1chael w0rkman]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

Don't mind me. Just trollin.



Rock n Roll is dead.
That's why zombies kick ass.

[theotherguy7145]

LifesSweetDrug wrote:

At least some bands play in the UK

Yeah, i just can't believe i can't see Loaded! I'll have to hope they tour again sometime!

And oh no! If Americas not very rock n roll anymore, where is?!?!?! :S

[robotocha]

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here

[shpaz]

"Frankly, America isn't very rock 'n' roll anymore. "
well the whole world isnt anymore. what a shame, what a shame.

[MonsterOfRock]

Rock N' Roll will exist forever. As Mr. Angus Young once said "Rock n' Roll is what bridges the gap between different musical genres, so you can't get rif of R n' R", however, sadly, there aren't that many bands out there that are being innovative (Don't think Dragonforce, think Faith no More). Neither are there as many tasteful guitar players (Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are getting better day by day, but don't get any exposure).

And need I remind you that there is massive, gigantic, not wait, COLLOSAL void that needs to be filled by some quality vocalists. Seems like growling mindlessly or sounding like a 13year old just-discovered-the-bush-teenager, seems to be the only options left on the board!

But Rock n' Roll WILL exists, and it WILL be stepped on and kicked around until changes are made.

[RonMexico]

UK, you can have Duff... We've still got AXL

[dylanfg]

most people in my school like shit hip hop and stuff and theres only a few people who like good musi

[wouldyakindly]

dylanfg wrote:

most people in my school like shit hip hop and stuff and theres only a few people who like good musi

Good music is a matter of opinion, for example, I think velvet revolver are **** and slash and duff haven't written any decent music since the early nineties.
That having been said, the UK is the birthplace of what we call "rock music" now. So if rock n roll is persisting anywhere, it's persisting in the UK.

[dylanfg]

well no its not really cos i live in england

[Garf72]

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

[ChucklesMginty]

The UK's not very rock n' Roll anymore either.

[XHAIL]

I thought this was a terrible interview, the interviewer didn't get him to elaborate on anything. He didn't say what he learned from his 2 bands, he didn't say why he thought America wasnt Rock and Roll anymore.... The only thing I got from this was that the UK can rock harder than the states.

[Shabalaba]

RonMexico wrote:

UK, you can have Duff... We've still got AXL

I think we have the best deal

Airbourne = Pure rock n' roll, maybe a bit AC/DC-ish but they are a totally awesome band nether the less

[Shabalaba]

wouldyakindly wrote:

dylanfg wrote:

most people in my school like shit hip hop and stuff and theres only a few people who like good musi
Good music is a matter of opinion, for example, I think velvet revolver are **** and slash and duff haven't written any decent music since the early nineties.
That having been said, the UK is the birthplace of what we call "rock music" now. So if rock n roll is persisting anywhere, it's persisting in the UK.

Agreed, good music is a matter of opinion, both of VR's albums weren't amazing, terrible lyrics with no amazing guitar riff you would expect off slash, in my opinion ofcourse.

[Marek99]

wouldyakindly wrote:
That having been said, the UK is the birthplace of what we call "rock music" now. So if rock n roll is persisting anywhere, it's persisting in the UK.

What bands are you reffering to? Coldplay? Radiohead? Hell no, far far away from what I understand under term rock n'roll. And if you are reffering to countless indie bands from UK, not either what i expect from a 'rock n roll' band. But at least they got a bit of a r n'r approach.

Correct me, If I am wrong [or if you were reffering to different bands]

But, anyway, I agree...world doesn't care about true rock n'roll anymore... i hate the 'modern rock' sound, I listen to very few modern bands (one of them is VR)... 70s-80s were the golden age of rock n roll

[This1GoesTo11]

True dat, Duff. True dat.

[cstricklandnola]

Everything is cyclical. Also, rock never really dies, it just goes under ground for a while until some band breaks through and pushes it to the forefront again. It took the Pistols to free the world from Disco, it took Nirvana to put a knife in the whole hair band thing, and it will take some other band to shake the world loose from the crap dominating the charts today. Still, even when rock is at its lowest, there are always a few bands putting out great music. Black Crowes kept rocking. Foo Fighters keep rocking-until next week at least. Radiohead continues to make incredible music. And I'm sure I'm only scratching the surface. If I were in college and still had time to dig I'm sure there are dozens of bands out there doing great work.

[Ali-b912]

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.

[Loudspeaker003]

sad but true.

[ZeppelinruleZ]

the problem with today's rock scene is that everyone is pushed into doing radio friendly bullshit. think nickelback, buckcherry stuff, even slipknot's new record sounds like stone sour. most rock bands, when they first come out, have their own original sound that leads them to stardom or whatever, and then they slowly erode into trendy bullshit radio friendly "rock". it's sad times for music in general, sad times....

[TXtech_iceman]

punk rock and all of that emo stuff is taking over and leaving true rock n roll in the dark

[scottishmob]

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

[Aziraphale]

Anyone who thinks Rock sin't evolving and is inherently limited should listen to Bazra.

[thedarkblues06]

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.

If I had anything to say, it's probably this. +1

[BrianApocalypse]

You spelt his name wrong!

[Red33]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

I agree.

[slash_015]

cocodrilo83 wrote:

THE WORLD isn't very rock 'n roll anymore, he seems alright none the less.

true

[jcthomasva]

If you think rock music is cookie-cutterish, you should try watching CMT.

That said, you just have to know where to look to find the good stuff. I agree that one of the major problems is lack of distinctive vocalists. Check out Alterbridge (Myles Kennedy is the 2nd coming of Steve Perry), Candlebox (Kevin Martin: Vocal Chords of Titanium) and the new incarnation of Blind Melon (Travis Warren is nearly as unique as Shannon Hoon). Army of Anyone put together a solid recording, with the singer from Filter. And whatever you think of Godsmack, gotta admit that Sully Erna is unique (even if he's trying to be a baritone Layne Staley).

The coming Alice in Chains album looks to be promising, as the new singer William Duvall can sing well, if he doesn't have the most distinctive voice.

On the flip side...the new Fuel singer is atrocious. Scott Weiland tried to sound too much like David Bowie while with VR, here's hope that returns to the vocal style of yore now that he has reunited with STP.

[Jet_Black88]

I'd hardly say this qualifies as "news", but at least someone in the spotlight is acknowledging the sad truth.

I'm hoping a second golden age of Rock will happen sometime soon. The bands are out there, I'm sure...

[AlienFinger79]

You can say a lot of bad things about VR, but bad lyrics isn't one of them. Their second album wasn't very good, but their first was a masterpiece. I expect great things from them in the future.

As for where the birthplace of rock is, UK did spawn the Beatles. Just sayin' (I don't live there, I just love the Beatles).

[thedarkblues06]

[quote(Myles Kennedy is the 2nd coming of Steve Perry)[/quote]

As much as I like to agree with you, and as much as I like Alter Bridge...I about threw up after listening to a live version of Find The Real because Kennedy was so bad. He couldn't touch Steve Perry if he was frozen and 2 inches in front of him.

[pilgrimevan]

It's almost like you have to dig for music
...but I don't want to. I wanna be able to turn on my radio and hear something mindblowing.

[HardRockKid]

no where is rock and roll any more im sad stupid pop and stupd sell out MTV but i think i see it coming back metallica has the number one and ac/dc the almighty gods of hard rock are back with vengenge to reek havoc on all those who miss use the guitar (particulary the SG) cough jonas bothers cough cough excuse me

[von tratt]

I hope VR come to Belgium again But yeah, the chance is small. And that's bcuz this f*ckin country is full of marockans and rappers who always comment rockers.

Checked.

[Jimi_88]

Who cares what's the mainstream music. In this day and age you can dig up pretty descent music on the internet. Who cares who's first on the Billboard or something. Those so called 'hits' come and go. I tend to listen to music that does not appear on MTV and all those singles and videos. That's for the radio and TV. Al least musicians know how to recognize something valuable.

[dnjskid]

Although I am in the small minority of people that would still love to see a GN'R reunion, I've pretty much made peace with the near-fact that it will never happen.

Duff is right, the U.S. is too pre-occupied with "ass shakin' in da club" and "droppin' it low". That's all music is these days and it's sickening that there's no substance.

[lewis_grey]

Guns brought proper rock back in the late eighties, we're well over due for a big rock comeback, it will happen but I don't know when or who will be at the helm. We just need another band like Guns to come along and tear up the music scene.

[enginehead]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

I agree with u there

Yea, i think rock does limit itself sometimes, thats probably why these new breed of bands that play old skool style don't appeal to me. Then again QOTSA don't really appeal to me either, but they do stand out from the crowd. I think there are good bands out there, but not getting enough exposure, cause mainstream has the tendency to move onto different things, atm its all this bland indie crap, r n b, and a bunch of singers that sound more or less the same. Screamers don't really appeal to me either, i mean, the bands can write good music, just the singers tend to ruin it for me.

But come on, VR do write a few amazing songs, its good they got rid of scott, sometimes he didn't mix well with the band

[ShakeMe90]

Yeah hes got that right, but i think todays scene is so messed up because there is like a new genre out every day so wtf are we supposed to follow? No one even plays rock n' roll anymore, it sucks!

[Leeroy Kincaid]

I like the fact that Slash wants a rough voice for VR's new singer. Weiland was too soft which prevented me from listening more to VR

[NorCalLos]

The Mars Volta.

The Beatles were ripping off Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, etc. Rock 'n Roll, like Jazz and Blue, were invented by Americans. The Brits (Beatles, Pistols, Radiohead, Oasis, etc.) are good at it, though. They definitely took it and did their own slightly different thing with it. I think of Brit-Rock as a slightly more musical version of American rock n roll with more complex chords and chord progressions.

Blues + electric guitar = rock n roll.

I wish the interviewer would've mentioned who is in Loaded.

[rayurrea]

got that right bro... because the world is not nice also

[liamduzrocks]

theotherguy7145 wrote:

LifesSweetDrug wrote:

At least some bands play in the UK

Yeah, i just can't believe i can't see Loaded! I'll have to hope they tour again sometime!

And oh no! If Americas not very rock n roll anymore, where is?!?!?! :S

plenty of places lol
everyone says rocks shit and dead these days n stuff
but tbh there are some gr8 bands out there if you know where to look

[Mattallica1]

our uk bands suck, what is duff on about? but i agree with him, the world is not rocking any longer

[slash fan #1]

I met him after a Loaded gig in Liverpool. Was ****in Awesome

[jthm_guitarist]

Totally true. How many other countries let rap get so big?
How many other countries even have country/ western music?

[alnicoV]

rock since its birth, has never been nor ever will be . it may not be as prominent but come on people, and besides when someone new does come along, you compare it to everything and try to put it into subgenre of some sort (ex. is it hard rock or radio metal, i cant decide). its always rock is , or blues is , but these things will never die they might be alittle less prominent but ...never.

when acdc decides to play harmonic minor solo scale or when dave grohl decides that disco beats sound better than real drums i will say rock is , but i do not see it happening.

[guitar_hero999]

if rock is truly dead....why are you lot complaining? Lets do something about it and bring rock back to life!!!!!

[Jet_Black88]

dnjskid wrote:


Duff is right, the U.S. is too pre-occupied with "ass shakin' in da club" and "droppin' it low". That's all music is these days and it's sickening that there's no substance.

Those are my thoughts exactly. It literally makes me sick to listen to it.

[lank81]

I don't think Rock is dead but I think its lost its soul. When you look at the old school players from the 60s - 70s time frame they just loved music, were moved by music and would do it the same way whether they got paid the bucks or not. Now with the generation of younger bands/people 16-35 we have this self-gratifying, instant, soulless flulff. There are some standouts aka Jack White but not so many.

[Savage Animal]

yea because Velvet Revolver plays REAL ROCK N ROLL!

what a ****ing joke

[shipping_steel]

i think the state of rock has something to do with the support fans are showing for new music., which is severely lacking ,most people would probably rather sit at home and and listen to music they like, instead of going out and listening to new bands [ this refers more ot city areas as in counrty places theres arent really ani music scenes to speak of].

look at musical trends of the last 20-25 years [very, very generally speaking here] ; 80s; rise of metal [ in all its forms], early 90's; alternative, grunge, industrial. late till now; nu metal, pop punk/emo/ what ever the **** you wanna call this modern take on punk, this the problem, we had all thiss great music leading up to nu metal era [ my opinion]and then alot of people view this as a dud [ speaking of trends] and rather then looking for new music which is the next ''step'' forward, they stick to what they like and the music stagnates and becomes stuck

clubs have also killed off live music, [ here in australia] there was a thriving ''pub rock'' scene in the 70's/80's/ early 90's where venues played live music, but thanks to noise violations, pokies, and the advert of the dj, it has pretty much disappered.

sorry for the long comment, and if it dosent make sense

[southern_stylin]

There are no shows on MTV that showcase Rock and Roll. You don't see rock bands cruising into clubs with a 30-man entourage. You don't see drummers rollin' through Miami with 30" rims. How many Metal bands are hopping around on stage with 46kgs of diamonds around their necks?

My point is this, it's not marketable. The 'industry' can't sell useless shit lifestyles to the kids through Rock and Roll. Especially when there are thousands of wannabe rap *cringe* artists waiting in the wings, ready to sell their souls for exactly all that crap. Ask any teenage girl who Duff McKagan is and you'll get a blank stare. Ask the same girl who the Jonas Brothers are and they'll cream themselves. Makes me sick.

[Marek99]

Jet_Black88 wrote:

dnjskid wrote:


Duff is right, the U.S. is too pre-occupied with "ass shakin' in da club" and "droppin' it low". That's all music is these days and it's sickening that there's no substance.

Those are my thoughts exactly. It literally makes me sick to listen to it.

It literally makes me sad.

[shipping_steel]

sorry to double post but something in rock better come along soon and blow the shit away cuase 20 years down the track i dont want kids asking me what was the popular music of my day and the only answer i can give is fall out boy [ im not having a go at em but there the main band of the genre and it just so happens i cant stand it in the slightest.

these kis will proceed to make fun of my sexuality, ask and then assume aniway that i dressed in my sister jeans, wore make up, and had the fringe hair thing, had a sex change etc etc

[GN'R Dude]

We need Meat Loaf back.

[ihavenoname93]

well complaining about this isnt gonna help. im gonna be the next thing that brings it all back. you should be too. if you dont like it, make something better

[PenFighter19]

wouldyakindly wrote:
Good music is a matter of opinion, for example, I think velvet revolver are **** and slash and duff haven't written any decent music since the early nineties.
That having been said, the UK is the birthplace of what we call "rock music" now. So if rock n roll is persisting anywhere, it's persisting in the UK.

"If you were to give Rock n' Roll another name it would be Chuck Berry." -John Lennon
And thats all I have to say about that.
And in the words of AC/DC:
"Rock n Roll aint noise pollution/
Rock n Roll aint gonna die/
Rock n Roll aint noise pollution/
Rock n Rolls just Rock n Roll"

rock on b*tches!

[Cheesepuff]

Damn, I wonder what the next trend is gonna be?

[punkrockjoe]

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

Lol this is blatently the best comment. So true. I'm gonna do the same.

[rich420]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it...

QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

That is too much of a generalisation, me and all my friends are people, and we aren't sick of it.

In your opinion maybe, in my opinion QOTSA are unique sounding, but also shit sounding. Though I do agree there aren't any awesome fresh rock bands nowadays.

[PastaOfMuppets]

As long as The Wildhearts are around, Britain will still rock.

Checked

[Marek99]

Cheesepuff wrote:

Damn, I wonder what the next trend is gonna be?

Hopefully the worst trends are behind us...nu-metal, grunge, emo, now it should get only better...

right?

[PenFighter19]

wtf?!? youve got genius boy, no offense, triple posting and MY post gets deleted cus I finished off with "Rock on b*cthes!"??
maybe just an error. maybe Im just being paranoid..

[SurfinWithSatch]

The world as we know it is becoming more and more commercial. Not just in music but in everything. Not only that but the world is slowly making a joke of itself in many other ways, i found out 2 days ago that a guy i kinda knew and met a few times was a paedophile!!! He went to court to be trialed for 15 counts of possessing and even MAKING child porn, and do you know where he is today? Living at home 200 yards from a school, owning a computer with full internet access.

Ok i've strayed a little of course there but I think you get what I mean, it isn't just music that the problem nowadays, society as a whole has gone mad!!!

[T.Rextacy]

it's not about music anymore, it's about self-image and money. sure it was like that back in the 80s, 70s, 60s, but the bands produced good music to fit the image.

theres no effort in music. even metal has gone to shit. it's all about who can be faster and heavier than the last band, who can scream or growl the hardest.

[raj_j_i]

Sammy Hagar should be VR's new vocalist.

[dgme92]

Marek99 wrote:

Hopefully the worst trends are behind us...nu-metal, grunge, emo, now it should get only better...

right?

Grunge was awesome. If you don't like the likes of Mudhoney, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam you have no soul. Fact.

[PenFighter19]

Hagar has got his own thing goin on right now

[Rock'n'Roller]

Mattallica1 wrote:

our uk bands suck, what is duff on about? but i agree with him, the world is not rocking any longer

i hope you mean modern day bands

[lorrythebassguy]

good on Duff i say

and yeah
the world seems to be loosing its rock n roll

[This1GoesTo11]

Rock'n'Roller wrote:

Mattallica1 wrote:

our uk bands suck, what is duff on about? but i agree with him, the world is not rocking any longer


i hope you mean modern day bands

Not even . . . (coming from an American) bands like The Arctic Monkeys and The Kooks are keeping rock alive. They're the real deal.

[Axe Murderer]

Funny, cause most people that are into hip hop would say that rap/hip hop is dying. Yet rock is dying and yall blame it on "ass shaking"?

No. There are TONS of great untapped artist out there, the difference now is we are so global and have access to anything and everything at the click of a mouse or push of a button.

In the past, the only way to make it big and get rich was to schlep from dive to dive till you got a big break. Then you schleped from country promoting your band. Now, you just prepackage it, give it to a marketing company, shoot a video and wait for the $$$ to roll in. That goes for rap and rock.

Ive listened to both genres all my life, and sure neither are at their past greatness, but theres still A LOT of kick ass stuff out there. You just have to know where to look.

The days of mega bands griping the worlds attention is over. Too much competition and easy exposure saw to that.

[Savage Animal]

dgme92 wrote:

Marek99 wrote:

Hopefully the worst trends are behind us...nu-metal, grunge, emo, now it should get only better...

right?
Grunge was awesome. If you don't like the likes of Mudhoney, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam you have no soul. Fact.

More like opinion lol

[ytse Jammer]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Rock'n'Roller wrote:

Mattallica1 wrote:

our uk bands suck, what is duff on about? but i agree with him, the world is not rocking any longer


i hope you mean modern day bands


Not even . . . (coming from an American) bands like The Arctic Monkeys and The Kooks are keeping rock alive. They're the real deal.

Is that a Joke? because its not funny.

[enginehead]

southern_stylin wrote:
Ask any teenage girl who Duff McKagan is and you'll get a blank stare. Ask the same girl who the Jonas Brothers are and they'll cream themselves. Makes me sick.

If girls can do that that is....xD

[Kada2110]

Rock was "dead" for some time, but as more as I watch the charts, its coming back! Slipknot, Whitesnake, Metallica, Disturbed, Buckcherry, Daughtry and all of those bands really rock and are ****ing popular! In 5 years or so, we will have the 80's back.

[enginehead]

Can any1 suggest any modern bands that are as you say "keeping old skool rock alive"?
I wud like to know of them

[metallinescence]

Well, if you think about it, the NWOBHM came from the UK (that's the whole BRITISH part), so the UK is probably gonna be instantly more rock'n than the US. But I do disagree with Duff, coz there are plenty of great bands, they just don't get recognition.

[T.Rextacy]

music is dead. the only good music is the stuff that was produced on vinyl. IMO, music died after the 80's ended. not saying there's no good music anymore, because theres a few decent new bands, and theres probably more great bands to come, but nothing will ever be like the golden age of rock n roll.

[murdoc66]

checked checked checked what is that

[Sean-Man]

don't worry duff, im still rock n' roll, pumping the out EVH right now

[a7xsoad]

Rock and Roll isn't dead. People are just stupid and want to listen to emo bollocks instead. If you want to listen to some real music you just have to LOOK a bit. Not just settle for what Kerrang! or what ever other shit it is that people have their music spoon fed from.

[SERIALTRENDKILL]

rock is about to make a huge comeback. people are sick of talentless-ness garbage imo.

[BrainScan]

Rock is dead? Tell that to Antiseen!

[The_Mullet]

Kid Ego, BuckCherry, Gypsy Pistolero's, Innocent Rosie, PeepShow to name a few..

[The_Mullet]

What? I didn't mean Buckcherry I meant someone else. Thats weird.

[scott316]

too many singers ??? i wish, my band has struggled to find anyone for 2 years and still can't find anyone in Ayrshire, Scotland. bollocks.

[777Corey]

I agree that rock n roll is dying off in a large sense, but there are still people who carry the torch very very well, you just have to look to more underground and diy stuff, like pierced arrows/dead moon. (although even they are getting old, the younger generation reall needs to step it up)

[GuitaringMike]

As Bill Bailey put it "theres more evil in the charts than an Al-Queda suggestion box"

[Melodic_Rocker]

Granted the world isn't rocking like they should, but there are some good newer rock bands out there keeping rock alive. Muse, Kamelot, QOSTA, The Raconteurs to name a few of my personal favorites.

What sucks is that a lot of these mainstream punk/emo bands just blow and suck simultaneously live, and that turns a lot of people off to rock right away.

[Marek99]

enginehead wrote:

Can any1 suggest any modern bands that are as you say "keeping old skool rock alive"?
I wud like to know of them

first band that came to my mind was Airbourne, but there are a lot more for sure...Wolfmother, Jet, then there is a 'new wave of swedish sleaze metal', young bands that are playing/trying to play the 80s glam/sleaze metal... you just have to search...various blogs and of course last.fm

[Wayward Sean]

Rock n roll is dying in America. I live in a mid-west college town, and the only things people listen to here are rap, country, and emo. What happened to America's taste in music?

[rogerneeb]

haha "It seemed the right thing for this band. Audiences in the UK seem to understand the type of rock'n'roll I like to play."

it all boils down to money people, they're making more money in Europe, period, that is why they're there, not here....it's not that hard to figure out....

[Orion999]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

I understand where you're coming from but I disagree. I think there's a difference between Rock 'n Roll being dead, and Rock 'n Roll being under the radar right now because its represntitive artistsa are too old, or not talened enough. There is a tremendous amount of room for the genre to expand and be successful, but I think the problem is that the genre's early leaders, who were amazing and did wonders for music (stones, aerosmith, etc.) are now choking it because people don't know how to play rock 'n roll without them, or without sounding just like them. Instead of being singular genre contributors, this guys became unilateral genre definers and when they became too old to carry the flag further and push the envelope more, the genre stagnated with them. Rock 'n Roll just needs fresh blood, and it will come. Because there will soon be a new generation of musicians that are young enough that, no matter how much they grow to love bands like the stones, they will never be so in awe of them that they are unable to depart from regurgitating their sound.
As for the comment Duff had regarding America. I actually know what he means. And I think it derives from the fact that the rock-oriented masses of America have become much more inerested in metal. I love classic rock and rock 'n roll, but I myself am one of the people who are really just more into metal. That's the shit that really turns me on and engages me. Who knows, maybe it goes back to the old joke about American bravado or whatever, but the testosterone and aggression that drip from american metal bands is like a drug for me.

Checked.

[alnicoV]

raj_j_i wrote:

Sammy Hagar should be VR's new vocalist.

....its crazy enough to work lol

[southern_stylin]

The gap between smaller bands who still play clubs and genuinely HAVE to rock and the huge radio bands that pump out 7 or 8 singles per album is astronomical these days.

One of my favorite quotes of all time....

"Punk isn't dead. It just sucks now."

I think that applies here.

[Joeboy6209]

Rock is dead, long live rock! I think to many bands only care about being mainstream or avoid being mainstream and forget what its all about

[Savage Animal]

enginehead wrote:

Can any1 suggest any modern bands that are as you say "keeping old skool rock alive"?
I wud like to know of them

Gov't Mule, moe., Widespread Panic, Black Crowes, Derek Trucks, Jakob Dylan, Blind Melon, Mike Gordon, Drive-By Truckers, and Mudcrutch, to name a few

[Bassboi904]

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

+1. Amen to that.

We still have AC/DC making albums, Metallica's at number one now right? And Rage is back. Also, a few of the indie bands like Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes keep the old school sound alive. It's not enough to keep Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers off of the radio sadly....but I'd say rock and roll isn't really in bad shape that much.

All someone has to do is make some kind of genre-breakthrough. Be like Nirvana when they killed that 80's pop stuff and hair metal, and just make something that will kill this emo/disney pop stuff. Simple as that....although most likely not as easy as it sounds.

[Gh.]

alnicoV :
raj_j_i wrote:

Sammy Hagar should be VR's new vocalist.


....its crazy enough to work lol

Crazy enough would be taking Eric Clapton. x_X

[Bassist87]

firstly hes right but his band could change that and secondly i would go see that band in a second

[Dreaming-V]

Bassboi904 wrote:

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

+1. Amen to that.

We still have AC/DC making albums, Metallica's at number one now right? And Rage is back. Also, a few of the indie bands like Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes keep the old school sound alive. It's not enough to keep Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers off of the radio sadly....but I'd say rock and roll isn't really in bad shape that much.

All someone has to do is make some kind of genre-breakthrough. Be like Nirvana when they killed that 80's pop stuff and hair metal, and just make something that will kill this emo/disney pop stuff. Simple as that....although most likely not as easy as it sounds.

+ the whole ug population

[memo139]

yah i agree the world isn't very rock n' roll anymore, everyone seems to be moving toward an electronic/synthy/dancey type of music, or in other words the 80's are coming back.

[metal@hart11]

alls i can say is, nice scarf dugg

[metal@hart11]

duff that is

[muffinman52]

You know, all I'm saying is the old bands had it right. They loved making music.Simple as that. Right when the world started getting obsessed about money, rock went Pbbtt. What we need is someone who makes music for the sake of making music. It doesn't matter who does it, I'm fine if it's punk or nu metal, or metal, or emo. I actually enjoy emo. But man, someone had better do it, and quick before the American music scene sucks as bad as its government.

P.S. anyone who signs with disney automatically SUCKS. PERIOD. Ah! don't even say otherwise. It should be in the freakin' constitution.

P.P.S. Keep listening to Pink Floyd!

[guitar_freak523]

rock n roll isn't dead, it's just not in the american top 40 radio well the good stuff isn't anyway.

[KThxBai.]

nice publicity stunt duff, us uk crowds are just less meh about over the hill burnout rockers.

[slashhudson977]

cocodrilo83 wrote:

THE WORLD isn't very rock 'n roll anymore, he seems alright none the less.

too fxcking right mate ****in r n b shxt taking over!

[JudasTheGuide]

Cheesepuff wrote:

Damn, I wonder what the next trend is gonna be?

*****That's exactly the problem!!*****

Music is all about trends these days; Nu-metal & punk, rap metal etc... Who cares? Rock kicks ass, why does nobody play it anymore? It's not as if there's a narrow scope to choose from, there's blues rock, heavy rock, pop rock, indie rock, that moderate feel/ballad type rock, metal.

Anybody with me on this?

[kranoscorp]

All music is stagnating right now, corporations like Disney are bleeding it dry. People need to understand that rap is stagnating as well. Rappers like Tupac, and Public Enemy were geniouses, but one just does not find talent like that anymore. Rap record execs are pestered by talentless rappers who send crappy mixtaps every day.

Corporate greed is not killing rock, it is killing music.

[slashrock94]

OK, duff is a legend, but i don't think UG need on their front page 'Duff States the obvious', we all know that shit is taking over, but cool to have something about duff, he doesn't seem to do as many interviews as slash and matt.

[eclipse2411]

Rock was never alive, Every era has there "popular" music scene. E.g 70's Dance, 90's pop etc.

There are great musicians out there but since music is so mainstream nowadays its hard to find them.
I recently found a few musicians out in my guitar magazine and some of them arent that bad! I couldnt beleive how much talent there is out there.

Music=Mainstream
Good Bands Are out there.

[motley-4-life]

A-men Duff. America has lost the rock & roll image. i dont blame you for not wanting to tour the states.

[NorCalLos]

Next U.G. headline:

Slash gets out of bed in the morning, puts on a hat.

[jordelagu]

i dont say that nirvana are completely good like a perfect band, but until one rock band like them, ****ing innovators, the rock is dead,,, unfortunetely

[iorch421]

rock n roll isnt dead, metal will raise again with the new disc from metallica its kick ass!!, i think that rock and roll will reborn again or whatever.. if guns n roses reunite i think soo

[Pr3vieWX360]

i understand what hes saying but i dont like how he said it. They should be trying to reshape it instead of disregarding the states.

[iorch421]

and the acdc new song itss kick ass!

[iksero]

we need a new blues revival: like what happened in the 80's. someone needs to come along and energize rock and roll from it's roots.

[iksero]

^^ luckily we have bands like The Answer, Airbourne, and the Black Keys out there doing what they can to bring back rock!

[almosthuman36]

I don't think it matters if rock is dead, or if all rock isn't anything new. As long as you play what you love, it doesn't matter.

[stumaster18]

^^ Black Keys FTW.

and it's true... you can't turn on a music station here without being barraged with rap/hiphop/R&B

[Zeppelin Addict]

love duff i really do and i 100% agree... america isnt rock and roll north america isnt rock and roll and the rest of the world is losing what little bit of rock is left in them... its sad but im glad to know the great bands with actual talent will never die as they are just to great... good luck to duff and the rest in finding their new frontman, new album before chinese democracy? i think so

[str84ever]

Ali-b912 wrote:
Garf72 wrote:
and rock went to being simple chords (grunge)

In this post, someone who knows nothing about grunge. Way to stereotype by basing grunge off Nirvana, *applause* Maybe think of Alice in chains, Pearl jam, soundgarden, gruntruck, paw etc. next time.

[kennyvspenny]

duff is god.

[neoring]

duff rocks.

i saw loaded in the seattle area in august. it was insane. so good. everything about them was great. Shame that they aren't going to do a full tour here. I'd love to catch them again. Duff was so cool.

[kurko26]

yeah all the stupid people think music is reggaeton and the ****ing jonas brothers...I hope with death magnetic more young people learn what real rock is about..

[kurko26]

kennyvspenny wrote:

duff is god.

TRUE BRO...

[Gordon guitar]

cocodrilo83 wrote:

THE WORLD isn't very rock 'n roll anymore, he seems alright none the less.

True- Bring back the axe

[Seidenschnur]

How about Axl for the new Velvet Revolver singer?

[howie_carman]

And need I remind you that there is massive, gigantic, not wait, COLLOSAL void that needs to be filled by some quality vocalists. Seems like growling mindlessly or sounding like a 13year old just-discovered-the-bush-teenager, seems to be the only options left on the board!

Haha, so true. What happened to the new generation good vocalists like Chris Cornell, Dio, Ian Gillan, David Lee Roth etc... Even death metals are way better than those 13year old just-discovered-the-bush-teenager sounding guys. Of course, that's my opinion, I could be wrong.

[bubbyw]

all this crap about "digging" and finding music.... honestly, I know if I look hard enough I will find some hard rockin band somewhere but I just want to turn on my radio to something that really rocks, not emo crap. I would also like to see some good concerts at big venues, that is what rock 'n' roll is all about!

[joshua029]

he's right. we're a rap nation now... ~ cries uncontrollably~

[Lex Davids]

Your all incredibly lazy, thats the truth and don't deny it. Rock isn't dead, theres never been this much innovation, experimentation and originality towards the electric guitar.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to dig these bands up doesn't mean they don't exist, i can name hundreds of artists that play with as much passion as the big names from years ago, your just being complacent and blaming the rap culture which is more a testament to western decadence than it is to the state of music in general.


TL;DR-Rock is thriving, instead of being negative to genres YOU don't understand lrn2research

[Smithsc]

hmm, interesting read. He is right tho, a lot of bands these days just flat out suck!!

[RubberSoul54321]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

Rock 'n roll never said the every song would be original - that's what prog is for. rock 'n' roll is loud as **** and makes you feel good. In that respect, VR, GnR, all those other bands that just want to rock the **** out do their job admirably. If you want prog, listen to Porcupine Tree. Sometimes it's nice to just jump around Apologies for grammar, bit pissed.

[parkerguitars24]

"If rock n' roll is dead, the dead will come undone."

[Axl Hammet]

well at least AC/DC and Metallica are still keeping metal alive with new albums

[isaac00]

raj_j_i wrote:

Sammy Hagar should be VR's new vocalist.

i hope so

[Axl Hammet]

12% percent people like rock n roll 88% like hip-hop thats sad
well Kurt Cobain will become a zombie and kill hip hop with his
guitar

[Orion999]

Lex Davids wrote:

Your all incredibly lazy, thats the truth and don't deny it. Rock isn't dead, theres never been this much innovation, experimentation and originality towards the electric guitar.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to dig these bands up doesn't mean they don't exist, i can name hundreds of artists that play with as much passion as the big names from years ago, your just being complacent and blaming the rap culture which is more a testament to western decadence than it is to the state of music in general.


TL;DR-Rock is thriving, instead of being negative to genres YOU don't understand lrn2research

instead of being a condescending dick why don't you offer constructive criticism and then help people out by making recommendations...I guess you were just born with all the answers and didn't need any help, must be nice to be you

[Led Dirigible]

Lex Davids wrote:

Your all incredibly lazy, thats the truth and don't deny it. Rock isn't dead, theres never been this much innovation, experimentation and originality towards the electric guitar.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to dig these bands up doesn't mean they don't exist, i can name hundreds of artists that play with as much passion as the big names from years ago, your just being complacent and blaming the rap culture which is more a testament to western decadence than it is to the state of music in general.


TL;DR-Rock is thriving, instead of being negative to genres YOU don't understand lrn2research

Care to name some of those "hundreds of artists"?

[NorCalLos]

I take Airbourne whenever I feel a cold coming on.

[jay2029]

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What needs to happen is another 90's like turn around, imo these days of emo and who can scream more is like the glam metal of the 80's.
not that the 80's were a bad time in music, i mean compared to today's pop, the 80's rocked!
when the jonas brothers are selling millions of records and deemed "Rock"...something wrong.

now there are many Rock bands around, its just they are not getting the exposure on mainstream media, and even if they do they can't outshine the crap like miley cirus and all the "flavor of the Week" rap artists, not to mention the strippers who get record contracts, lipsync and get famous.

Mili Vanilli (that spelling right?) got caught lip-syncing and what happened to them, they got ridiculed and one dude ended up killing himself. Ashlee simpson lip-syncs, and what happenes to her, she gets MORE famous. Explain that one.

[Nightmare4560]

what the **** is eveybody on about these days , rock is dead... my ass.rock is still alive and kicking , with bands like foo fighters , Metallica , ACDC , megadeth etc.. im currently in a band , and working to at least produce a couple of songs , so im still into rock . to the population of UG , rock is not dead. look around the net , and you will find some good rock/metal bands. dont listen to that R & B shite.

[mitch311]

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

The mainstream is pop punk bands who wine about teenage issues to teenage girls and have almost no musical talent. How is that reinvention rock, it's just downgrading it to the most basic level possible. I'd rather listen to rock and roll rehashes then that

[CraZzZy Diamond]

So what you mean by that Duff, is since the American Dollar is so low, you make more money touring in the UK. and Nightmare4560, all the bands you just listed are more than a decade old, but rock isnt dead, just harder to find good rock because record companies wont spoon feed us good stuff.

[cj10schmelzer]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

and rap and other mainstream music sounds original? not really...

[mitch311]

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

[cj10schmelzer]

Also, its called underground music.

Rock is definitely NOT dead.

[cj10schmelzer]

mitch311 wrote:

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

Shinedown, although they arent really hard to find anymore because theyve become pretty popular

[down n dirty]

GN'R Dude :
We need Meat Loaf back.

dude are u freakin high?

dgme92 wrote:

Marek99 wrote:

Hopefully the worst trends are behind us...nu-metal, grunge, emo, now it should get only better...

right?

Grunge was awesome. If you don't like the likes of Mudhoney, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam you have no soul. Fact.

that is definatly a fact but dont forget green river or screaming trees its so underated it wasnt simple chords half the time it was real rock n roll riffs and it was the last great movenment in music

NorCalLos wrote:

Next U.G. headline:

Slash gets out of bed in the morning, puts on a hat.

omg! i almost fell out of the chair i was laughing so hardcore!

[Subcide]

robotocha wrote:

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here

The music scene in aus at the moment is awesome with bands like Cog/Karnivool/Mammal/DLC touring

[thebasshacker]

McKagan's one of my biggest influences, and I couldn't agree more with him. American rock is slipping into some hybrid of the misfits and the monkees. Every band is full of very attractive young men, who cut their wrists in the wrong direction. But, it could be worse, remember music before GnR and after VH.

Checked!

[PenFighter19]

yay. I wanna be like Lex. XP

And really man, the biggest pushes in the guitars boundaries came from, Ill name the three biggest: Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, and Tom Morello. This generation has yet to experience a truly inventive guitarist. And rock n roll primarily in the 50s 60s and 70s are blamed for America's decline in moral fiber, not today's hip-hop.

As far as rock n roll as a trend. Consider this: the 1950s; Elvis Priesley, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Little Richard were Rock n Roll through and through. But country, gospel, and jazz still dominated radio depending on your region in the US.
In the 60s there was ofcourse The Beatles, The Beach Boys, the Rolling Stones, and The Who. But right next to the British invasion bands, MoTown shared full ownership of the record industry.
Then came the likes of Hendrix, Zeppelin, Blue Oyster Cult, Sex Pistols, AC/DC, Sabbath, The Ramones. And even with all of them and more the mainstream was all disco groups like ABBA and the reinvented David Bowie.
In the 80s came Aerosmith, Van Halen, GNR, Bon Jovi, and U2. And they all shared a seat to the likes of Madonna and Micheal Jackson.
Then ofcourse came Nirvana. Bringing along Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Candlebox, and STP. Both Metallica and Pantera hit it big. RHCP broke through. Rage was formed. And even after Kurt, Krist, and Dave brought back 'real rock n roll' people still adopted and adored the teeny bopper trend. This was also right after rap's big breakthrough thanks to Run DMC and the Beastie Boys and they all shared the radio.
Nowadays theres the Foo Fighters, Incubus, various old, older, and OLD bands still rockin but they all have to share the radio with all this shhhhtuff thats out now. So I refer to my previous post when I quote AC/DC, "Rock n Roll aint gonna die. Rock n Rolls just Rock n Roll."

[mitch311]

cj10schmelzer wrote:

mitch311 wrote:

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

Shinedown, although they arent really hard to find anymore because theyve become pretty popular

Didnt like them at all, they sound more like a pop band to me, over produced

[ginger-rockr10]

does this band loaded have an album? id like to hear what hes done. and the problem with those Australian bands isnt the music, its the fact that JET, Airbourne, AC/DC and others have all come over to the US and made it big, so the new bands there probably want to defect to the US

[Dohidesu]

There are a lot of good bands still around putting out innovating music. Most of them aren't mainstream though (none are in America, nothing original at all).

[Lex Davids]

Led Dirigible wrote:

Lex Davids wrote:

Your all incredibly lazy, thats the truth and don't deny it. Rock isn't dead, theres never been this much innovation, experimentation and originality towards the electric guitar.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to dig these bands up doesn't mean they don't exist, i can name hundreds of artists that play with as much passion as the big names from years ago, your just being complacent and blaming the rap culture which is more a testament to western decadence than it is to the state of music in general.


TL;DR-Rock is thriving, instead of being negative to genres YOU don't understand lrn2research
Care to name some of those "hundreds of artists"?

The mars volta, God is an astronaut, secondsmile, snakes for arms, dinosaur jr, Bad Brains, Built to spill, Jawbox, The dismemberment plan, Drive like Jehu, The Feelies, Foxy Shazam, Haemostatic Picnic Races, Psyopus, Sonic Youth, The Corgis, Captain Beefheart, A brief history of poland, My bloody valentine ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC, (not all of its modern but it RAWKS (y))

And mr ORION999 no need to RAAGE at me, It wasn't my intention to be a condescending dick MAAAAN REAAARRGGHGHG RAAAGE TESTOSTERONE INTERNET ARGUMENTS I MUST BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME OPINIONS CLASHES PRIDE EGO

On a genuine note if any of you guys want some good recommendations for some lesser known rock bands of the 60s/70s/w/e please dont hesitate to message me =)

[atkm2891]

mainstream isn't rock n roll anymore

[jakehendrixman]

Mainstream music now is utter #@#%. Nuff' said. We need people who can errect a big stiff middle finger and not be afraid of the repercussions. The general masses are lazy as !%&@ and don't put any effort in trying to sound different. They only take what they are used to and produce an exact copy. Ex: Trivum = Metallica.

Everyone needs to learn how to avoid single minded thought processing. Listen to EVERY GENRE. That's also another problem that should be stated. We as humanity must label everything to death.

Do we seriously need a genre called prog-death-pop-black/country-rock-abilly-rock/neoclassical-b aroque-rock/emo/metal/rock/whatever as a title. I know, quite an exaggeration but you get the point.

Rock is not dead. Simply a lost art.

[Kolb-Stomp]

Kada2110 wrote:

Rock was "dead" for some time, but as more as I watch the charts, its coming back! Slipknot, Whitesnake, Metallica, Disturbed, Buckcherry, Daughtry and all of those bands really rock and are ****ing popular! In 5 years or so, we will have the 80's back.

ewww i don't want the 80's back... but i guess it was better then the same shit we hear day to day on the radio. if anything i want the good ol' Rockin 70's back the same days as the greats mostly Led Zeppelin, Ac/Dc and Rush. however i guess Ac/Dc and Rush were around in the 80's but their stuff wasn't as good as it was in the 70's. But i believe once we get past this whole Modern rock phase Classic Rock will rise again... i mean, its pretty much is on the rise, look at the Sales of Guitar Hero And Rock band, people think faking playing an instrument on those games is stupid BUT ITS BRINGING BACK ROCK GUYS!!! LETS CHEER EM' ON!!!

[ReaperWaits]

RonMexico wrote:

UK, you can have Duff... We've still got AXL

Axl..and a free Dr.Pepper to go with it!

[Savage Animal]

mitch311 wrote:

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

Already posted this earlier but you must have missed it:

Gov't Mule, moe., Widespread Panic, Black Crowes, Derek Trucks, Jakob Dylan, Blind Melon, Mike Gordon, Drive-By Truckers, and Mudcrutch, to name a few

[AthenasGhost]

XHAIL wrote:

I thought this was a terrible interview, the interviewer didn't get him to elaborate on anything. He didn't say what he learned from his 2 bands, he didn't say why he thought America wasnt Rock and Roll anymore.... The only thing I got from this was that the UK can rock harder than the states.

That's because this article was about america not being very rock and roll... not asking numerous questions about what he's learned from 2 people.

[Doug329]

i hate rap thats the reason rock is on its way out. If i can get rap gone, rock is back

[sydvicious]

VR sucks, but duff is right america is trashed with hip hop and people on myspace who get famous just by posting crap. there are some okay bands but mostly just stupid alternative and modern rock like the fagg jonas brothers they are a shame to everything to do with guitars

[The Mailman 666]

You all want to know why rock is dieing. I’ll tell you why. It’s because the music industry is an “industry” it’s pure business now. Radio music is no longer art; it’s a product to be profited from. It is sold as a product and what companies do with products they “improve” them to sell to as large a demographic as they can. This is inherently the problem. “Art” cannot be manufactured it has to be spontaneous. This is what used change trends (the artists). But as time has passed companies have learned that they control what gets on the air and what does not. Today’s radio music is trended by the music companies not the artists. Music companies change sounds and when they find something that sells they run with it. Look at bands like Nickelback, Stained and Puddle of Mudd, these bands are cut from the same mold. MANUFACTURED! The reason for this is efficiency. Truly great art has to be listened/looked at for a while to be understood. I mean how many of your favorite great rock songs did you love the first time you heard them. Not many, because if you can get everything out of a piece of art in a matter of a few minutes it’s not very good art. The music industry wants the music they put money into to catch the listener within the first few seconds or they’ll change the station (not profitable). It’s as simple as that! I believe there are 100s of great bands out there but the industry isn’t going to put it out there when what is out is selling. It’s all about bleeding what is selling until it starts to die and then all of a sudden you get a ton of bands that have the same sound but with just a little change. And the one that sells the most is the next flavor and the one that gets copied to death and so on and so forth. If you look at rock music between 1970 and 1990, you’ll hear a lot of very different sounds and many very, very good. However, as a business this was very inefficient. The industry could have dragged those sounds out over 3 times the length that all that music was out and made A LOT more money from it. That is exactly what is happening right now and that is why pop, hip hop, dance, techno are so popular. They’re cheap to make and easy to tap your foot to and kids just EAT IT UP! Pure candy music with absolutely no substance! Hell, most of it is made on a computer by 1 guy and then they just hire a bunch of goofs that will appeal to the demographic that the company is going for. Milli Vanilli anyone!

Ok I’m done! That turned out to be a much longer rant then I intended.

Sorry,

Shawn

[tancanada]

Doug329 wrote:

i hate rap thats the reason rock is on its way out. If i can get rap gone, rock is back

well rap is a dying genre too if you look at it, sales on rap cds have fone down like 40% since 2005 or something like that. the only thing is, there isnt really a genre out there to take its place right now except pop and rock.

[tancanada]

mitch311 wrote:

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

hmm, black stone cherry? maybe?

[shadow__666]

I don't want the 70s, or the 80s, or even the 90s back. We need to start making something new, something different from what's been done before. There's no point in just regurgitaing the same old rock and roll/metal bullsh*t cause, as much as you may want it to, it ain't gonna change the world. What will change the world is something no one's ever heard before, something hard enough for rockers yet pop enough for everything else, someone who can push the boundaries of what we know as rock. I don't know if it will be done, but I damn well hope so. In the meantime, I'm gonna go and listen to my Mudhoney CDs and dream of a short-term grunge revival where at least I'll fit in.

[The Mailman 666]

shadow__666

[The Mailman 666]

shadow__666wrote:
There's no point in just regurgitaing the same old rock and roll/metal bullsh*t cause, as much as you may want it to, it ain't gonna change the world.

Not my point. All I was saying is that generally at those time the rock music that was out was of a VERY flavored. ie. many differebt sounds. Please read the entire post befor you comment.

[The Mailman 666]

WOW did I spell that post badly or what! LOL

[f1sk]

it's not rock and roll like it previously was
it's just different now, we can't keep playing the same shit over and over duff, art evolves

[The Mailman 666]

Ya but it's not art anymore, it's product.

[Ebucra]

he is right, i mean the jonas brothers? Seriously

[The Mailman 666]

See this is why rock sucks now. Because kids nowadays have the attention span of an ant! I bet if someone post is longer then 5-6 lines you don't read it!

[RockNRollHeaven]

It aint that Rock "N" Roll is dead its nobody is playing extreme guitar solo's anymore of course you have legends like Slash and Jimmy Page, but then there is music like the ****in jonas brothers and pop shit, man that aint music, its noise (im sorry if someone is a fan nothing against you), at least we have some good metal bands out there. Velvet Revolver Rocks PEACE
Richard Wright 1943-2008 Rockin the Great Gig in the sky

[The Mailman 666]

Ebucra thank you my friend. How old are you and did you read my post. if so tell what are your thoughts. I really want to know.

[zekk]

He's obviously stuck in the past and not looking very hard.

[The Mailman 666]

Ok you can’t tell me that if another band started playing music that had a Pink Floyd sound to it and the music was TRULY good. You wouldn’t buy it. I know you would but Pink Floyd was not created they were real and so you can’t make a band “sound” like them and be good. It’s just not possible.

Side note,
Gone are the days were rock bands have classicly trained lead guitarists in them.

[ozzynator]

R'n'R isnt doing as good as it once did. but there is still some good unknown bands around. i discovered one a couple of days ago when i saw a motorhead gig, its a band called Valient Thorr, check it out, these guys rock hard.

[PenFighter19]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

You all want to know why rock is dieing. I’ll tell you why. It’s because the music industry is an “industry” it’s pure business now. Radio music is no longer art; it’s a product to be profited from. It is sold as a product and what companies do with products they “improve” them to sell to as large a demographic as they can. This is inherently the problem. “Art” cannot be manufactured it has to be spontaneous. This is what used change trends (the artists). But as time has passed companies have learned that they control what gets on the air and what does not.

Ok I’m done! That turned out to be a much longer rant then I intended.

Sorry,

Shawn

The length isnt what you should be apologizing for, its the lack of thought. Dude, music has been marketed since before Mozart. Every noble/record label wants the best composer/band to stay in their house/sign their label so they can charge for people to come see them present their work. Just cus its called an industry now doesnt mean its anything new. Art always has and always will be exploited by those that dont fully understand and/or appreciate it.

[RockNRollHeaven]

no pink floyd had their own sound they had an amazing lineup especially with syd barret

[RockNRollHeaven]

so i agree yes they were real

[The Mailman 666]

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.

[Goo161]

Dinosaur Jr and Opeth will save the genre IMO

[The Mailman 666]

I know music has always been "sold" but it wasn'e made by companies. It was made by artists.

[Fuzzbox91]

rock in general is kind of a UK thing. admit it most of the best rock bands came from there

[DimeLvR]

I know glam is dead in the US its now EMO. As for rock being dead didnt metallica just release a #1 metal album?

[HELLAWAITS88]

we'll end the world, when all hope is gone...
duff...the time has come.

[DimeLvR]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.

Anything opeth is Epic man and the band has had alot released in the last 15 years.

[GN'R Dude]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Ok you can’t tell me that if another band started playing music that had a Pink Floyd sound to it and the music was TRULY good. You wouldn’t buy it. I know you would but Pink Floyd was not created they were real and so you can’t make a band “sound” like them and be good. It’s just not possible.

Side note,
Gone are the days were rock bands have classicly trained lead guitarists in them.

I believe the Synister Gates from AV7X went to a music institue and is classically trained.

[zAg1619]

Axe Murderer wrote:

Funny, cause most people that are into hip hop would say that rap/hip hop is dying. Yet rock is dying and yall blame it on "ass shaking"?

No. There are TONS of great untapped artist out there, the difference now is we are so global and have access to anything and everything at the click of a mouse or push of a button.

In the past, the only way to make it big and get rich was to schlep from dive to dive till you got a big break. Then you schleped from country promoting your band. Now, you just prepackage it, give it to a marketing company, shoot a video and wait for the $$$ to roll in. That goes for rap and rock.

Ive listened to both genres all my life, and sure neither are at their past greatness, but theres still A LOT of kick ass stuff out there. You just have to know where to look.

The days of mega bands griping the worlds attention is over. Too much competition and easy exposure saw to that.

+1

[epiphone rkr kd]

The American music way is moving towards stupid rap which all sounds the same to me

[the_axe_is_god]

ZeppelinruleZ wrote:

the problem with today's rock scene is that everyone is pushed into doing radio friendly bullshit. think nickelback, buckcherry stuff, even slipknot's new record sounds like stone sour. most rock bands, when they first come out, have their own original sound that leads them to stardom or whatever, and then they slowly erode into trendy bullshit radio friendly "rock". it's sad times for music in general, sad times....

Well, the fact that Slipknot and Sone Sour have the same vocalist could have something to do with their sounding similar. And really, they've been more melodic and less psychotically loud (although there's nothing wrong with psychotic loudness) with every album. On there first one there wouldn't hve been a hope in hell of hearing a song like "Vermillion, pt 2", or even "Pulse of the Maggots". They still wouldn't quite fit on Iowa, and they're perfectly in place on Vol. 3. If one band can evolve like that, then I think it's pretty likely the whole genre's evolving, right now it's mostly shifting towards being more melodic, but there are bands that still keep the eardrum-bursting volume, bands like Powersludge (don't feel bad if you've never heard of them, they don't have a deal yet and you can't the the two CDs they've released outside of Stettler, Alberta, Canada), who I have the pleasure of seeing live when I was visiting relatives. Small band with a really big sound. Anyway, the point is eventually will break out of this stream of crap and rock will trive once more.

[Sleaze90]

What ruined real Rock N' Roll (imo ofc) was the invention of the internet. Instead of kids spending most of their time making music, they'd be splitting it with time on the internet(like everyone reading this). I'm pretty sure if the internet was back in the 70's or some **** bands back then would of never existed. That's basically why music today will keep sucking. Rockers of the past didn't have internet, "Rockers" of today do have internet. So all this sums up to...Rockers in the past played more and basically made music for a living while "Rockers" today play extremely less and probably do it as just a hobby because they could be on the internet. If you truely do not agree with this at all please take a second to reevaluate yourselfs before making a response. If you read all of what I just wrote and still want to respond...your just wasting your time to help me prove that my opinion is correct.

[S.D.M.F.]

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

YOU SHOULD BE THE LEADER FOR A REVOULUTION OF MUSIC!
GOOD WORDS!

[CaptAwesome15]

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

+1
I'll be right there with ya man. Why complain when you can just do it yourself?

[PenFighter19]

Fuzzbox91 wrote:

rock in general is kind of a UK thing. admit it most of the best rock bands came from there

Are you kidding?? Blues, Country, Jazz, Rockabilly, and ROCK N ROLL were all created in AMERICA. Sorry to kinda wave the flag in your face. But thats the way it is man. America made it, UK made it bigger, America made huge. Thats been the cycle from the start.

[b0ch0]

Rock n roll died the second after GNR broke up... All the previous bands (like metallica, Ac/Dc, Megadeth) are now trying to survive... but the truth is, metal died in the late 90's...

[xBLITZKRIEGx]

rock needs to reinvent itself for america to become interested in it again

[MW516]

thr rock most of u guys talk of (80s metal) is bs n a joke that will never be...60s rock was when rock was the most open and eperimental

[voodoochild23]

hmm hardly any1 will be bothered to reach this comment after all of the above! but i feel like sharin my view anyway.
i agree with the idea that music has gradually simplified over the years (sum1 mentioned the progression, in punk and metal, where everythin has become basic chords n higher volume settings)
n its because almost every1 as a teenager, who picks up a guitar, is thinking about a career. they think about writing songs, immediately, and playing them immediately, to start a career... to earn money, and be famous, n see themselves on tv.
n for this reason they rush into it, so few guitarists these days have enough knowledge of music theory. the ones that do unfortunately dont seem to possess the creativity or passion to write anything decent.
we miss the 70s n 80s because in those days the purpose of being able to write and play music was deeper than simply to earn money. there are some today who still treat their guitar as a means to express emotion, ideas, and their own personality for the world but theyre caught beneath the insane chaotic mess of talantless yet appealing indie/rnb acts who have absolutely no originality, no distinctive quality seperatin them from each other, dominating the media and just gaining momentum.

simply put, encourage ureselves and any guitarists you know to really get into it. to take their guitar apart, fret by fret, n find things that havent been done before. if u never become rich n famous for it, who gives a flying F***, just do it n keep it real.

if we dnt make good music, how is it gna rise again? who r u waitin for

why jimi hendrix is the greatest of all time... he knew more about his own self as a guitarist, what he could and couldnt do, than any1 b4 or since.

n metallica's new album rocks. follow their example!

[mmolteratx]

Japan's pretty cool just cause they got Marty Friedman. The US has other bands like Megadeth, Van Halen, Steve Vai, Satch, Bang Camaro(didn't learn about them from Rock Band or Guitar hero, been a fan for a while), Paul Gilbert, Racer X, Dokken, even most of Sabbath live here now. All they really have is Zeppelin, Clapton(who's probably my favorite guitarist of the 60s), Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. They don't even have the Darkness anymore. I say we win. Actually, if people are serious, the internet will make them better, it's just that most people are lazy. They could be learning chords, theory, scales and other stuff instead but they waste their time looking at tabs when they should be trying to figure it out themselves. But I do agree with you that it is part of the reason guitarists are progressively getting worse. Also, blame Nirvana. Nirvana kicked ass but so many people don't get that it wasn't as simple as it sounded and that they do need to learn more than power chords and maybe a pentatonic scale.

[wolfy808]

UK had the british invasion. That was when Rock N Roll became popular. With The Rolling Stones, The Who and The Beatles just to name a few. America was where it became popular, yet it all came from Across the Atlantic. This is coming from an American too = P

[pageisgod493]

what about canada? we love rock n roll

[pageisgod493]

and black sabbath is british dolt

[punk&metal]

duffy rules!

[ChrisHecox]

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that


between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.

I am so happy somebody agrees with me that if you can call the Jonas Brothers rockstars, then you are devoid of any kind of concept of what rock is. I can't really place blame on any particular band for turning the charts into the diarea pit that it is now. When Rihanna and Justin Timberlake and The Jonas Brothers are dominating the charts with all of this crap, and people call it good music, and rock? that bugs the "F" out of me. I can't listen to any of it. btw, Slash is incredible.

[Mattallica1]

yeah i did mean modern day bands

[ChrisHecox]

jay2029 wrote:

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What needs to happen is another 90's like turn around, imo these days of emo and who can scream more is like the glam metal of the 80's.
not that the 80's were a bad time in music, i mean compared to today's pop, the 80's rocked!
when the jonas brothers are selling millions of records and deemed "Rock"...something wrong.

now there are many Rock bands around, its just they are not getting the exposure on mainstream media, and even if they do they can't outshine the crap like miley cirus and all the "flavor of the Week" rap artists, not to mention the strippers who get record contracts, lipsync and get famous.

Mili Vanilli (that spelling right?) got caught lip-syncing and what happened to them, they got ridiculed and one dude ended up killing himself. Ashlee simpson lip-syncs, and what happenes to her, she gets MORE famous. Explain that one.

AMEN

[jimivancobain]

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

+1 everyone stop bitching and lets bring rock back to life

[Mattallica1]

Not even . . . (coming from an American) bands like The Arctic Monkeys and The Kooks are keeping rock alive. They're the real deal.

lol there indie bands not rock

[Esp_kill07]

NorCalLos wrote:

The Mars Volta.

The Beatles were ripping off Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, etc. Rock 'n Roll, like Jazz and Blue, were invented by Americans. The Brits (Beatles, Pistols, Radiohead, Oasis, etc.) are good at it, though. They definitely took it and did their own slightly different thing with it. I think of Brit-Rock as a slightly more musical version of American rock n roll with more complex chords and chord progressions.

Blues + electric guitar = rock n roll.

I wish the interviewer would've mentioned who is in Loaded.

I like what this guy said. yep the reason rock n roll doesnt exist is cuz we have ass hats that only play power chords. yup rock was founded on blues. we need bands that still give that bluesy feeling. blues-rock for sure

[queenslander47]

Seems like growling mindlessly or sounding like a 13year old just-discovered-the-bush-teenager, seems to be the only options left on the board!

hahahaha hilarious
so true i ****in hate that sound. gives me the shits

another one i hate are those dickheads who really force it out, eg the guy from faker, i hate that, ppl say its "unique" and "cool" but really its just really really really bad singing

[crazy8rgood]

I'm waiting for the 70's Pink Floyd-esque bands and the early ninties grunge like Soundgarden, Nirvana, Sonic Youth, ect. to come back...

None of that 80s hair metal bullshit... Or this emo crap, Fall Out Boy? Mainstreem corprate cocksuckers. QOTSA is very good, i agree with that post, some bands today are very good, like The Fratellis, QOTSA... Hell, some of MCR's stuff is acctually pretty good. Buck Cherry is awsome, Slipknot, even though i DISPISE them, are acctually pretty awsome. So, there is some hope for rock music...

Just thinking positive guys!

[mjones1992]

Shabalaba wrote:
Airbourne = Pure rock n' roll, maybe a bit AC/DC-ish but they are a totally awesome band nether the less

True dat. I saw them at Rock on the Range, and they had everyone bouncing up and down, which usually isn't what you see at a rock concert.

[rage72]

kurko26 :
yeah all the stupid people think music is reggaeton and the ****ing jonas brothers...I hope with death magnetic more young people learn what real rock is about..

wtf????

[Novacane...]

Ahh, nothing more amusing than an old man clinging to his classic rock and all the fanboys on here stating that 'true rock and roll is dead'.

Classic.

[Tiepps]

robotocha wrote:

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here

LOL gotta agree there, don't get me wrong we got some great acts but like when QOTSA and SP came to of my favourite bands. i gotta say the Adelaide crowd just ****ed it up, so im thinkin i may never see those bands HERE again. Duff is Wise :P

[zero27]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

you're are sooooo cool. you really sound like you know what you talking about.

[radiofriendly]

rock n roll is dying for certain, i wouldn't say it's dead...

duffs band loaded kicks arse, in my opinion velvet revolver should just realise they already have the correct singer...duff himself.

[curmudgeon7]

Okay fellow musicians, we all know what rock music represents, and we also know our beloved music has faded away in the last years, but it's up to us to bring it back. Many people are waiting for new revolutionizing bands that can do what the Beatles, Guns N' Roses or Nirvana did in their times. I think we've waited long enough, I won't wait for this crisis to worsen. I have started writing my own music and I am forming my own band. Let's start writing our own music and forming our own bands. I have been bothered enough by all this crappy "music" that has taken over the world. Now I'm sick of it and I have realized that the only way to get rock back where it belongs is by doing something about it by ourselves. Rock music is what I love and I am willing to fight for it, and that's exactly what I am doing. I encourage you guys to get up and start rocking. We are in this together. Rock and Roll has given us countless moments of happiness and joy. It is now our turn to do something for rock music. C'MON!!!!!

[rrhoads47]

i really like metal, metalcore, and grunge, but i also really like rock n roll, to say america doesnt like rock n roll isnt necesarily true its just that music is divided into more than 3 genres now, back in gnr days it was like rock, metal, and pop, now there thousands of genres.

[Scott_Zeppelin]

m1chael w0rkman wrote:

Rock n Roll is dead.
That's why zombies kick ass.

LOL! that is awesome and so true.
Kudos to you my friend, that made my day.

[The_Raven]

The Zombies of rock will rise with a hunger...a hunger to MELT PEOPLES FACES OFF WITH HIGH VOLTAGE ROCK AND ROLL!!!

And metal too


And maybe SOME classical


...

But mostly HIGH VOLTAGE ROCK

And metal.

[urf_]

Is it just me, or does this guy just not shut up anymore?

[frottage]

Good; I don't really like rock.

Creed, some GNR, and some Velvet Revolver are good. Creed's all I really need though.

[SkidRow92]

curmudgeon7 wrote:

Okay fellow musicians, we all know what rock music represents, and we also know our beloved music has faded away in the last years, but it's up to us to bring it back. Many people are waiting for new revolutionizing bands that can do what the Beatles, Guns N' Roses or Nirvana did in their times. I think we've waited long enough, I won't wait for this crisis to worsen. I have started writing my own music and I am forming my own band. Let's start writing our own music and forming our own bands. I have been bothered enough by all this crappy "music" that has taken over the world. Now I'm sick of it and I have realized that the only way to get rock back where it belongs is by doing something about it by ourselves. Rock music is what I love and I am willing to fight for it, and that's exactly what I am doing. I encourage you guys to get up and start rocking. We are in this together. Rock and Roll has given us countless moments of happiness and joy. It is now our turn to do something for rock music. C'MON!!!!!

Nirvana dude...seriously...nirvana killed rock

[Seerzy]

I agree with robotcha australia's music is just completely retarded now

[priestfan76]

RonMexico wrote:

UK, you can have Duff... We've still got AXL

yeah im having an orgasm at the thought.Woo ****ing hoo we get the prick who cant finish anything and they get the actual musician

[groll01]

robotocha wrote:

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here

thats a joke right?
the Australian scene atm mirrors 60's/70's england.... your clearly not looking hard enough so her you go

Dallas crane
YOU AM I
the vandas
the drones
mexico city

[mmolteratx]

Wolfy, I hate to break it to you man, but rock all started in the US. Have you ever even heard of Buddy Holly, Elvis, Ritchie Valens, Bill Haley, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Chuck Berry or Ike Turner? All at least a decade before the British Invasion. Plus the Beatles were pop not rock. And pageisgod, I know they're British, I'm just stating most of them now live in the good 'ole US of A. By the way, Page is not god, that would be Allan Holdsworth.

[Beelzboss]

He's right. America don't rock'n'roll like 20 years ago. Pitty, world is changing...Now there's only few nice rock bands wich are kinda rock'n'roll ; Kasabian , Smashing Pumpkins , Velvet Revolver ofcourse and Weezer.

[mmolteratx]

And MW516, the 60s were not the most experimental. The 70s had way more experimentation, especially with odd time signatures, strange scales and the like, which came from prog rock. Plus 80s metal is cool, it's basically the perfect mixture of pop and metal. It's got the technical guitar work and a catchy chorus so even people who aren't musicians can appreciate it.

[curmudgeon7]

SkidRow92 wrote:

curmudgeon7 wrote:

Okay fellow musicians, we all know what rock music represents, and we also know our beloved music has faded away in the last years, but it's up to us to bring it back. Many people are waiting for new revolutionizing bands that can do what the Beatles, Guns N' Roses or Nirvana did in their times. I think we've waited long enough, I won't wait for this crisis to worsen. I have started writing my own music and I am forming my own band. Let's start writing our own music and forming our own bands. I have been bothered enough by all this crappy "music" that has taken over the world. Now I'm sick of it and I have realized that the only way to get rock back where it belongs is by doing something about it by ourselves. Rock music is what I love and I am willing to fight for it, and that's exactly what I am doing. I encourage you guys to get up and start rocking. We are in this together. Rock and Roll has given us countless moments of happiness and joy. It is now our turn to do something for rock music. C'MON!!!!!

Nirvana dude...seriously...nirvana killed rock

That's not true. Nirvana is one of the greatest bands ever. Nirvana saved rock in the early 90's from a crisis like the one we are witnessing nowadays. Don't say those ridiculous things.

[41plus182]

Lex Davids wrote:

Your all incredibly lazy, thats the truth and don't deny it. Rock isn't dead, theres never been this much innovation, experimentation and originality toward the electric guitar.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to dig these bands up doesn't mean they don't exist, i can name hundreds of artists that play with as much passion as the big names from years ago, your just being complacent and blaming the rap culture which is more a testament to western decadence than it is to the state of music in general.


TL;DR-Rock is thriving, instead of being negative to genres YOU don't understand lrn2research

Seconded. +1. There are plenty of great bands out there that aren't even hard to find. Just because its not AC/DC doesnt mean its not rock and roll. Heck, Rise Against comes out with an album october 07.
P.S. I'm quite sure Hannah Montana didnt decide to make music for 20/30-somethings sitting on their computers. That music is designated for girls(maybe some boys) who are like 14 and younger. It's pointless to say, "Oh that Hannah Montana Sux, Boo Disney!" when of course the music was written for kids 20 years younger than you.

[therescue06]

NorCalLos wrote:

The Mars Volta.

The Beatles were ripping off Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, etc. Rock 'n Roll, like Jazz and Blue, were invented by Americans. The Brits (Beatles, Pistols, Radiohead, Oasis, etc.) are good at it, though. They definitely took it and did their own slightly different thing with it. I think of Brit-Rock as a slightly more musical version of American rock n roll with more complex chords and chord progressions.

Blues + electric guitar = rock n roll.

I wish the interviewer would've mentioned who is in Loaded.

+ ****ing 10.

[Rodders]

Rock n' roll is an old tired genre, let it die gracefully. There are so many various forms of rock music out there and a large number of them are brilliant. Beyond the mainstream there are some awesome bands, as there always have been..

And Radiohead do not count as Rock n roll. Rock n roll is Chuck Berry, Bill Haley, Elvis. Radiohead are one of the most inventive and forward pushing bands around today in the mainstream... It's bands like that, pushing forward the 'rock genre' that the world needs. Not bands like Velvet Revolver hankering after the good 'ole days.

[dovidioa]

I'd take Duff over Axl any day. Axl ruined the best band to come out of the shit that was the LA scene in the 80s.

Rock and roll cant die, just you posers.

UK sucks, America Rules!

[MozemVasJebat]

Well, instead of Layne Staley, there´s some jackass, that cannot sing at all, instead of making real music, Cornell is raping..VR instead of THE SINGER Mr. Scott Weiland (who wrote all the songs for both VR albums..), you decided to pick some loser...well, yeah, I guess you´re right..

[GNR'n'A7X]

Like 'em or hate 'em... we've got AVENGED SEVENFOLD! Disagree with whatever you want to but they've got catchy heavy rock music filled with drum complexity, soaring guitar chops, and raspy vocals. Just my opinion. Anyway, Duff's idea here is understandable. Think about what you see on MTV... rap and pop, "you know it's sad but true".

-DDP

[farhan_zul]

nowadays bands like to scream or growl...
juz ****ing lame...

[Kada2110]

ROCK'N'ROLL is still the most heared music in the world, it doesnt matter that its not mainstream...

[777Corey]

once again.. the real bands carryng rock n roll are still undergound.if you want to know what real modern rock n roll sounds like, listen to dead moon.

[/\AC/\DC/\]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

your saying sweet child o mine, november rain, welcome to the jungle, estranged, knocking on heavens door, paradise city are not engaging guitar lines?

my friend, you are the most retarted liveing thing on earth

[shadow__666]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

shadow__666wrote:
There's no point in just regurgitaing the same old rock and roll/metal bullsh*t cause, as much as you may want it to, it ain't gonna change the world.


Not my point. All I was saying is that generally at those time the rock music that was out was of a VERY flavored. ie. many differebt sounds. Please read the entire post befor you comment.

Dude...I read your post. I wasn't talking to you specifically, I was talking to everyone who wants a particular type of music back on the radio when they just have to face the fact that they ain't coming back.

GNR'n'A7X wrote:

Like 'em or hate 'em... we've got AVENGED SEVENFOLD! Disagree with whatever you want to but they've got catchy heavy rock music filled with drum complexity, soaring guitar chops, and raspy vocals. Just my opinion. Anyway, Duff's idea here is understandable. Think about what you see on MTV... rap and pop, "you know it's sad but true".

-DDP

+1. For the life of me, I can't see why the fanboys can't bring themselves around to the simple fact that Avenged Sevenfold are a freaking METAL band. Hairstyles do not put a band in a genre!!!

[shadow__666]

/\AC/\DC/\ wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

your saying sweet child o mine, november rain, welcome to the jungle, estranged, knocking on heavens door, paradise city are not engaging guitar lines?

my friend, you are the most retarted liveing thing on earth

You're competing with him for actually thinking Slash wrote Knockin' On Heavens Door. It was written by a bloke called Bob Dylan, ever heard of him?

[twistyzybe]

groll01 wrote:

robotocha wrote:

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here



thats a joke right?
the Australian scene atm mirrors 60's/70's england.... your clearly not looking hard enough so her you go

Dallas crane
YOU AM I
the vandas
the drones
mexico city

How is it I get this far into this post and not one person, including us aussies have mentionted
The Living End
they are doing their bit for rock, but obviously no one is listening

[johnny-rock]

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

thats the right approach! lets not whinge about it! lets make it happen!

[Badmotorfever]

Although I enjoyed a lot of contemporary bands at Reading Festival, i still think we need a revolution. We need some bands that are gonna break through the mainstream and do something spectacular. Its just a shame that bands like Wolfmother broke up after their first album...

Nowadays it all seems like Supergroups and bands who have "reunited". As much as I love Zeppelin, Van Halen and Queen, they can't come back to what they used to be. Surely its nicer to have your place in history than keep doing things that possibly tarnish your good name?

Saw a band at reading that did some proper good rock. The singer was wearinig skinny jeans and wore a def leppard t-shirt, but apart from that they were a tight band, bringing the sound of the 80s back. Maybe thats what this world needs right now. Shame nobody wants to listen to it.

Yeah - i also agree with the above post. We, as the next generation of rockers, should make this happen. Grab your guitars and rock!

[Harry Heck]

America's still Rock n Roll because I'm still here.

[Slooj]

There are lots of new, fresh Rock 'n' Roll bands around such as Airbourne, and The Answer.

We just need to stand up for Rock 'N' Roll, and embrace the new Rock bands that come up.

Take Wolfmother for example. They were a great band but got slagged off because retards thought they were trying to copy Sabbath!

[gibson-sg-rocks]

Im TELLING YOU: ROCKSTAR VELVET REVOLVER is the way to go. they will make millions.

[Gh.]

iksero :
we need a new blues revival: like what happened in the 80's. someone needs to come along and energize rock and roll from it's roots.

And that's a good attitude. Long live Blues!

[odd_cause]

robotocha wrote:

it cant be as bad as australia... the music scene is effed up here

You've got to be shitting me?
Gyroscope released an awesome album that went to number 1
The living end did the same, with their best album since roll on.
Kisschasey, Trial Kennedy, Faker, Something with numbers and the getaway plan have released huge records over the past year

and then you have underground bands like Horsell Common, Lungs, Blueline Medic, The Paper and the plane all doing really good things with recent or soon to be releases

Music her isnt all sneaky soundsystem or idol wannabe's, and its hardly what i would call an eff'd up music scene, go out and see some local bands and see what its all about

[paul1991]

duff is right rock n roll is dead. not just in america but every where mostly in the uk. thats why we need velvet revolver everything's gone all indie and for me that just sucks

[Dragon Master]

Well, indie rock is becoming popular among teenagers. The problem is that people are just tired of the radio. The radio doesn't change its dynamic and it's becoming a nuisance. Rock and roll is still alive, but it takes different forms, every decade. Metallica's at number one. At first, Ne-Yo kinda knocked them off, but Metallica got back on. The people want rock.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

+1

[Nilpferdkoenig]

Even if Emo is the Glam Rock of the 00's, Glam Rock guitarists had awesome riffs and were good shredders for there time and some are still at it like MAB.

[gilles_frehley]

Nilpferdkoenig wrote:

Even if Emo is the Glam Rock of the 00's, Glam Rock guitarists had awesome riffs and were good shredders for there time and some are still at it like MAB.

nah, emo is just pathetic

[lt22]

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that


between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.

indeed it seems that the more complex your music is the less likely it is that your band will be in the least bit popular. It's a shame, too. Metallica is at least at #1 though. For a little while.

Music in general has progressed backwards it seems, as rap and hip hop have basically no melody whatsoever and pop is mostly simplistic and formulaic.

[lzrdsixsix6]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

yea cause rap is SO original

[Rodders]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.

I think most albums released in the past 15 years, regardless of genre, would beat the majority of those.

Oceansize (Effloresce/Frames/Everyone into Position)
Biffy Clyro (Vertigo of Bliss)
Swervedriver (Mezcal Head)
Radiohead (Ok Computer)
Weezer (Pinkerton)
Jeff Buckley (Grace)
Foo Fighters (Colour and the Shape)
Sunny Day Real Estate (Diary)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Anything)

To name but a very select few. And at any rate musical preference is exactly that, a preference. No music is BETTER than any other, its just opinion - Rap/Dance/Pop is just as valid as every other form of music, and has just as much right to be in the charts as rock.

In my opinion music should progress, and whilst bands like Black Sabbath and Van Halen were good in the day, there have been many albums to match their brilliance since then.

[Cedde7]

Ok here's an idea, stop thinking about this shit, and do what we do, assuming you play in bands. Keep trying to breakthrough, eventually one of us will get the attention of the public, and yeah, it'll take time, but isnt it worth it?

Checked.

[motleycrew92]

**** mainstream rock its all about that hippy shit!

[Shread_6009]

the problem is that music is all about a image, and has been since the 80's.

in hair metal, you needed long, messy, fluffed hair, and make up and spandex.

in grunge, you needed leather, pawn-shop guitars and depression

in rap, you need diamonds and gold on your necklaces and in your teeth, and cars and an entourage, but the thing is that the entourage is hired by your label, and the gold is all owned by your sponsors, and if you stop releasing records, you have the jewelry pulled out of you face by a 400 pound record exec called mambo ( notice hjow MC hammer stopped making records after losing his money?)

image has been slowly replacing the music, and its total bullshit

[Maniacal_Mikey]

Its true. Rock really isn't that popular anymore, especially around where I live. Oh, sure there's still new bands and albums coming out all the time, (e.x. Metallica with Death Magnetic and AC/DC with Black Ice in October) but, I dunno. Even MTV, which started out as mainly playing rock/metal, might actually play one rock song every half-hour in their morning line-up, which almost doesn't exist anymore, but then again, they've more or less "sold-put" and only thing they air anymore is reality tv and have become like a little sister to VH1. But VH1 Classic, VH1's new channel is pretty dedicated to rock, even if it is older rock. And I have to agree with Shread_6009 above me,

image has been slowly replacing the music, and its total bullshit

So true. Rock isn't dead, but its a lot more underground than what it used to be. It seems like anymore rock is considered either the older people's music with bands like Steppenwulf or Deep Purple, or its looked at as music mainly for the younger generation with Foo Fighters and Red Hot Chili Peppers. It seems to me like there's too wide of an age gap, not to mention a genre that's hard to define, what with all the different sub-genres. Rock just isn't rock anymore.

[recliner33]

Shread_6009 wrote:

the problem is that music is all about a image, and has been since the 80's.

in hair metal, you needed long, messy, fluffed hair, and make up and spandex.

in grunge, you needed leather, pawn-shop guitars and depression

in rap, you need diamonds and gold on your necklaces and in your teeth, and cars and an entourage, but the thing is that the entourage is hired by your label, and the gold is all owned by your sponsors, and if you stop releasing records, you have the jewelry pulled out of you face by a 400 pound record exec called mambo ( notice hjow MC hammer stopped making records after losing his money?)

image has been slowly replacing the music, and its total bullshit

In grunge you needed leather? Sure maybe a few grunge artists were leather from time to time but not all of them. Have you ever seen kurt cobain in leather? I haven't. In grunge it was more about wearing plaid, ripped jeans and just everyday clothes.

I'm getting off topic here so back to this... rock and roll is still around in America and anywhere else in the world. And some of it is just as good as it was back then. The only thing that changed is mainstream rock. Back then when a rock band was good they usually got airplay where today that isn't the case. Instead of radio and tv showing rock bands with true talent, they now show bands that are trendy and that will make 13 year old school girls buy their cd's.
There are tons of rock bands out there today (even in America) that rock as hard and as good as any big rock band from the 70's, the only difference is that these bands of today aren't mainstream.
So in conclusion, there are lots of good rock bands out there today, you just got to get off your ass and look harder to find them instead of listening to what's fed to you on mtv and the radio.

[Savage Animal]

ITT: Massive amounts of retards who think Velvet Revolver can "save" rock or the crazy notion that rock even needs saving

[The Mailman 666]

Rodders :wrote:
I think most albums released in the past 15 years, regardless of genre, would beat the majority of those.

Oceansize (Effloresce/Frames/Everyone into Position)
Biffy Clyro (Vertigo of Bliss)
Swervedriver (Mezcal Head)
Radiohead (Ok Computer)
Weezer (Pinkerton)
Jeff Buckley (Grace)
Foo Fighters (Colour and the Shape)
Sunny Day Real Estate (Diary)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Anything)

To name but a very select few. And at any rate musical preference is exactly that, a preference. No music is BETTER than any other, its just opinion - Rap/Dance/Pop is just as valid as every other form of music, and has just as much right to be in the charts as rock.

In my opinion music should progress, and whilst bands like Black Sabbath and Van Halen were good in the day, there have been many albums to match their brilliance since then.

You’re kidding me right?!?! I bet you didn't know that Van Halen there first album was basically recorded live! The entire band played together in the same room and it was recorded. The group recorded all the songs live in the studio, and only overdubbed instrumental tracks on three numbers. I would be willing to bet that that has never been done ever, since then. Because today’s "bands" sound like crap live because they SUCK! And can’t play worth shit together.

[The Mailman 666]

Why is this you ask because they did bought “musicians” and didn’t grow up playing together. They are ALL manufactured and built from the ground up by a manager and then sold to a label.

[74abelnos]

i must agree with Duff, the only good recent stuff is velvet revolver's albums and metallica's "death magnetic". besides that the last good album was probably guns n' roses, "use your illusions" in 1991. over 17 years ago. music has gone down hill.

[The Mailman 666]

Why is this you ask because they are all bought “musicians” and didn’t grow up playing together. They are ALL manufactured and built from the ground up by a manager and then sold to a label.

[enginehead]

O my god...As if anybod watches MTV anymore

[Rodders]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Rodders :wrote:
I think most albums released in the past 15 years, regardless of genre, would beat the majority of those.

Oceansize (Effloresce/Frames/Everyone into Position)
Biffy Clyro (Vertigo of Bliss)
Swervedriver (Mezcal Head)
Radiohead (Ok Computer)
Weezer (Pinkerton)
Jeff Buckley (Grace)
Foo Fighters (Colour and the Shape)
Sunny Day Real Estate (Diary)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Anything)

To name but a very select few. And at any rate musical preference is exactly that, a preference. No music is BETTER than any other, its just opinion - Rap/Dance/Pop is just as valid as every other form of music, and has just as much right to be in the charts as rock.

In my opinion music should progress, and whilst bands like Black Sabbath and Van Halen were good in the day, there have been many albums to match their brilliance since then.


You’re kidding me right?!?! I bet you didn't know that Van Halen there first album was basically recorded live! The entire band played together in the same room and it was recorded. The group recorded all the songs live in the studio, and only overdubbed instrumental tracks on three numbers. I would be willing to bet that that has never been done ever, since then. Because today’s "bands" sound like crap live because they SUCK! And can’t play worth shit together.

Actually I bet you thats done quite a lot. A lot of bands will record live rather than overdubbing, but it doesn't make any difference to how good the band is. The bands that don't record live will still play live so I'm guessing they know how and can probably do it just as well as Van Halen. At any rate some of the magic and art in recording is overdubbing and making your band sound brilliant. If that meant overdubbing and playing things over and over again I would, rather than go for a live take which will usually have faults in. I wasn't even arguing that point anyway, I said music needed to progress and people needed to forget what other people listened to and just listen to what makes them happy.

[prophetsfan]

Audiences in the UK seem to understand the type of rock'n'roll I like to play.

YEAAAAAHHHHH rawr =D

[prophetsfan]

Rodders wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Rodders :wrote:
I think most albums released in the past 15 years, regardless of genre, would beat the majority of those.

Oceansize (Effloresce/Frames/Everyone into Position)
Biffy Clyro (Vertigo of Bliss)
Swervedriver (Mezcal Head)
Radiohead (Ok Computer)
Weezer (Pinkerton)
Jeff Buckley (Grace)
Foo Fighters (Colour and the Shape)
Sunny Day Real Estate (Diary)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Anything)

To name but a very select few. And at any rate musical preference is exactly that, a preference. No music is BETTER than any other, its just opinion - Rap/Dance/Pop is just as valid as every other form of music, and has just as much right to be in the charts as rock.

In my opinion music should progress, and whilst bands like Black Sabbath and Van Halen were good in the day, there have been many albums to match their brilliance since then.


You’re kidding me right?!?! I bet you didn't know that Van Halen there first album was basically recorded live! The entire band played together in the same room and it was recorded. The group recorded all the songs live in the studio, and only overdubbed instrumental tracks on three numbers. I would be willing to bet that that has never been done ever, since then. Because today’s "bands" sound like crap live because they SUCK! And can’t play worth shit together.


Actually I bet you thats done quite a lot. A lot of bands will record live rather than overdubbing, but it doesn't make any difference to how good the band is. The bands that don't record live will still play live so I'm guessing they know how and can probably do it just as well as Van Halen. At any rate some of the magic and art in recording is overdubbing and making your band sound brilliant. If that meant overdubbing and playing things over and over again I would, rather than go for a live take which will usually have faults in. I wasn't even arguing that point anyway, I said music needed to progress and people needed to forget what other people listened to and just listen to what makes them happy.

yeah i agreee with listening to what makes you happy. but theres a lot of people who stick with the old stuff to be happy, i listen to Guns n roses loads, but appetite was released before i was even born. yeah music is a preferance, and should progress, but we cant just forget the classic songs that have been around for years.

[41plus182]

Omg. I'm tired of all these hippies who keep saying rock and roll is dead. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the 80's have been done for almost 30 years. Move On! Get a Life! There's plenty of great music out there but just because it's not Van Halen or Guns and Roses doesn't mean its not rock!

[Savage Animal]

41plus182 wrote:

Omg. I'm tired of all these hippies who keep saying rock and roll is dead. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the 80's have been done for almost 30 years. Move On! Get a Life! There's plenty of great music out there but just because it's not Van Halen or Guns and Roses doesn't mean its not rock!

1. Listening to Van Halen/Guns N Roses doesn't make you a hippie
2. Hippies are into the 60s/70s scene, not the 80s
3. Hippies AREN'T complaining that rock is dead because there are plenty of good bands around right now

[41plus182]

I'm not arguing the definition of "hippie". I'm arguing that there are plenty of people complaining that rock and roll is dead(read all of the posts above), when majority of these people are stuck in the 80's and can't move past the fact that the 80's are over, and there are plenty of great bands out there right now. I am simply saying that perhaps the "Golden Age" of rock is dead, but the genre itself isn't. As I stated before, just because it's not Van Halen/Guns and Roses/etc.does not mean it's not great rock music.

[Rational_Gaze]

Jimi_88 wrote:

Who cares what's the mainstream music. In this day and age you can dig up pretty descent music on the internet. Who cares who's first on the Billboard or something. Those so called 'hits' come and go. I tend to listen to music that does not appear on MTV and all those singles and videos. That's for the radio and TV. Al least musicians know how to recognize something valuable.

+1

Fuck mainstream shit, look a bit deeper with an open mind and you will find alot of quality and innovative music still being made.

[Twiggy81R]

I agree with his statement that USA isn't very rock n' roll anymore. It's too pop-VHI-MTV crap. I guess that's why I see more of my favorite bands touring in Europe everywhere else other than USA.

[Bucketheadroolz]

wow you people took this article very seriously. multi paragraph responces lol
Yea this guy shouldnt get credit for pointing out out obvious.

[MooshMooshMarc]

JudasTheGuide wrote:

Cheesepuff wrote:

Damn, I wonder what the next trend is gonna be?

*****That's exactly the problem!!*****

Music is all about trends these days; Nu-metal & punk, rap metal etc... Who cares? Rock kicks ass, why does nobody play it anymore? It's not as if there's a narrow scope to choose from, there's blues rock, heavy rock, pop rock, indie rock, that moderate feel/ballad type rock, metal.

Anybody with me on this?

not all of it. you just have to look a little harder.

[Hash4you]

bitches, plz. just cuz the music trned is hifting duznt mean that RR is gone for good. its simply changing into something else.

[Infamou$17]

Shabalaba wrote:

Airbourne = Pure rock n' roll, maybe a bit AC/DC-ish but they are a totally awesome band nether the less

A bit?! I thought I was listening to a leak of Black Ice when I heard them for the first time, They are the most unoriginal, trite band since Jet

[Kegan]

Rock and Roll is not in a sad state; In fact, it's great, there's just more shit to sift through.
If people want to listen to the Jonas Brothers and Nickelback, let 'em. You don't have to be friends with those people or acknowledge their opinions.

[Kegan]

74abelnos wrote:

i must agree with Duff, the only good recent stuff is velvet revolver's albums and metallica's "death magnetic". besides that the last good album was probably guns n' roses, "use your illusions" in 1991. over 17 years ago. music has gone down hill.

Are you kidding?
Look past the mainstream and and all of the albums and bands you know of, and check around wikipedia and music sites. You're bound to find some amazing bands who never compromised their artistic merit to hit the mainstream, simply because they didn't want or need lots of money. No matter the genre, you'll find something. It won't be Metallica or Slash, but is that such a bad thing?

[RX120D]

Kerrang! is garbage.
THEY GAVE A7X ALBUM OF THE YEAR OVER TESTAMENT!!!!!
The Formation of Damnation absolutely destroyed A7X's new album. There in not one bad song on it!
100% greatness throughout.
"Kerrang!" needs to get it's head checked.

[Wytica]

Rock'n'Roll does not limit itself, that is pure bullshit, the guitar is the most versatile instrument on earth. Guitar players like Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Jimmy Page, Slash, Rory Gallagher, Santana, Michael Schenker, Kirk Hammett ect. were very inventive for their times, when a guitar-player is good enough to make their own sound into a genre and sound differently than the rest is when it's evolving.

I could be the new Jimi Hendrix if I wanted to, but that would be boring and nothing new. Being INSPIRED is another fact, and incorporate ones influences into your intstrument, and not copying everyone else, that's when one is progressing.

Someone said that the internet has killed Rock'n'Roll and due to it more people aren't playing as much as they used to before when the internet didn't exist. As this may also be true, everyone can learn a song by reading some tablatures, but not everyone are as good players within themselves, before the internet came musicians didn't have any access to tabs so they learned everything mostly by ear, which in these days aren't as common as it used to be.

Guitar players in newer bands that are completely different from the rest in these times and have their own sound are players like Omar from The Mars Volta, Matt from Muse, Dave Navarro, Adam from Tool, Jonny Greenwood from Radiohead, ect...

It gets boring playing covers all the time doesn't it? And way better when you've made a song yourself that is completely your own and original? Yes.

There is nothing I find more boring than a guitar-player who sounds just like somebody else, a copy-cat is what I dislike. Originality is a pure winner.

And NO Rock'n'Roll is not dead, define Rock, there are millions of versions of it, it's up to oneself what you want to create, the past, the future, somewhere in between, whatever. If you play with passion and because you love music enough you will make it.

[xcmasta91]

unless one band has like an insane next album like metallica's death magnetic rock is dead

[Emo_Guitars]

HELL No American is not very Rock N' Roll anymore... ill bring it back..

[The Mailman 666]

WOW! The delusion goes deeper then I thought!

[leonkaz0822]

How can he say that, he's a bassist, and they don't play rock...they play a bass

[GIBSONroks6167]

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.



anybody else care 2 throw their useless opinion on the world? that was possibly the most biased post i've seen in a long time. so wat exactly would u define as a non-limiting genre? becuz it seems 2 me that for something 2 fit into a "genre" it has 2 b similar to other things in that genre

[The Mailman 666]

I'm not saying rock is dead. It's just been run over a few times and right now there's 18 wheeler heading it's way.

[The Mailman 666]

I have another reason Rock is being killed. Because we are forced to call manhole covers/sewers catch basins! LOL. I mean I thought they were called women hole covers for a while, weren't they? LOL

[CamelToeJoe]

everything here (USA) is marketed with rap. im moving to canada.

[tntdcvnt_iriz]

damn,i thought rock n roll died from where i come from which is malaysia....looks like everywhere in the world suffering from the same disease...its a disease i tell u!!!!here in malaysia,ppl only listens to indie bands and hip hop/rap music which pisses me off...its very rare to hear ppl in my country liking Alter Bridge,Karnivool,Killswitch,Nonpoint,Sevendust or stuff like that....there isnt any rock radio station to begin with...we have stations like Hitz.fm and Mix fm which they claim to play all hits from all genres which in fact bullshit....God help us all.....we want our Guns,Aerosmiths,Lep Zeps,Pink Floyds,Deep Purples,Sabbaths,Dios,etc back.....we want a rock revolution.....

[S.D.M.F.]

Music is ****ed. The only crap you see in the charts, top 40, etc is emo, indie and pop rubbish. You occasionaly get an alright band come up on MTV but that's not enough. What happened to the days when Judas Priest were on top of the pops singing Living After Midnight? Those are the days I wish I could of grown up in.

All we have now are studio bands, who write 'songs' for radio. They are all studio engineered and have to lip sync to sound half decent live.

The only genre of music that still has some talent in it is metal. The guitarists, drummers, bassists and singers HAVE to be good to make it, and it shows. AND they sound better live.

We can all blame the USA for rap/hip and all the other rubbish, but don't worry any Americans reading this all our countries have to added to the pile. I've found that most of the only decent music comes from Europe and Scandanavia.

Sorry for the long comment but the state music is in right now really pisses me off.

[Wytica]

Hmmm..this is interesting, new interview with Kirk Hammett, he is being interviewed here about the current state of rock music and if the music was better in the past than now, ect..

Watch it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hurYnLOidXQ&feature=rel ated

[Victoria-R]

Holy crap. There are comments that are f*cking pissing me off.

1. Blah blah blah blah blah! Stop complaining already and do something about it if you've got a problem with mainstream, rap, or other music you may not like. Better: SHUT UP AND PLAY YER GUITAR, DRUMS, BASSES, HARMONICAS OR WHATEVER! Don't listen to "the bad music" if you despise it so much, what's preventing you from doing so? Let the people who "don't listen to the right music" drown in their own demise of living and listening up mediocrity.

2. Most of you who posted on here are pathetic. As mentioned, there are MANY great artists out there, except they are not played on the radio, nor on TV, which is what most people use to access and find some music. And when those brilliant artist promote their stuff online, you just gotta find the right site. Now, I'm not saying that music nowadays is not mediocre because oddviously it is, but the problem is that you folks are expecting music to come to you all the time, you have to look into it.

3. I'm not much of a rap fan, but there IS good rap out there. The rap you seem to all make allusion to is the rap you see on MTV, which is very foul; have a listen back to the 90's rap: example: you have Nas' "Illmatic"- that is a objectively f*cking amazing album; it does not talk about hoes, gangstas boning and cheating their girlfriend, or riding on dubs. Hailed as the greatest rap album of the 90's, Nas' debut is a wonderful whirlwind of amazing lyrical ability. Tupac writes nursery rhymes compared to this talented lyricist. And I know what I'm talking about when it comes to music.

4. Someone tell me since when has it been right to depend on TV or the radio to provide you, CONSISTENTLY, good music according to your tastes?

5. And sh*t,

We can all blame the USA for rap/hip and all the other rubbish, but don't worry any Americans reading this all our countries have to added to the pile. I've found that most of the only decent music comes from Europe and Scandanavia.

That was f*cking trash. Music is filed under many different categories, but where they come from does not matter for sh*t. Music all the same everywhere. So don't go blaming or saying America is the source for "all the other rubbish" when we didn't ask you to follow our musical customs. F*ck, and I'm saying this when I'm not even so pro-American.

Sick of it.

[eipts]

Music is ****ed. The only crap you see in the charts, top 40, etc is emo, indie and pop rubbish. You occasionaly get an alright band come up on MTV but that's not enough. What happened to the days when Judas Priest were on top of the pops singing Living After Midnight? Those are the days I wish I could of grown up in.

Honestly, this is the best time for music ever. I'm sick of the same old pentatonic classic rock stuff, I'm tired of the fricking chorus and flange and I'm definitely done with the bad makeup, all the theatrics and pointlessness of bands like Judas, Iron Maiden, etc. etc.

Look around you. Music is easier than ever to share with millions of people. If you're just limited to MTV then, even a decade ago, you'd be listening to crap like I Ran and Whitney Houston (who won a Grammy award, so much for good mainstream music).

Enough about this "rock is dead" bullshit. Good riddance I say. Now we have so much more choices. The internet has opened up a whole new can of worms where I can now listen to psychedelic drum n bass with metal influences. On MTV we have long pointless ballads(Poison), manufactured bands(Sex Pistols), makeup(Motley Crue), gimmicks(KISS), bad editing(Slayer), cliche solos(ACDC), dumb lyrics(Led Zeppelin)...

[Hodenbassist]

Sorry, but he's right. Rock'n'roll like Led Zeppelin and the Who is dead, there are no more bands there able to play rock'n'roll, and when a band has good members they play Metal. Yeah ROCK'N'ROLL is dead.

[Year Zero]

He's right America is about Emo and stupid pop country. I'm American but I can truly say we are a nation of atleast 50% nimrods.

[eipts]

Also, rap is probably the best genre to explore these days. I have no shame in admitting I love Lil' Jon, Young Jeezy,Lil Wayne, all the typical stuff. It's background music for me. Kinda like how I hate it when people rage on about 80's music, about how it is dumb (same can be said for rap) and stupid (same thing, once again), but really to enjoy 80's music you have to cruise in the backroads, windows down, music loud. Go to a club or a party and see if they play Mars Volta or Opeth; rap is something that people can dance to. Just like disco. And I totally respect that.

However, if you're not into the whole dancing part, there is plenty of "deeper" rap music. Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Nas, Bone Thugs, Blackalicious, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, so many others. To outright dismiss rap music is as ignorant as outright dismissing country music.

[guitarsolo_17]

The_String_Man wrote:

maybe he's right, it isn't anymore, but rock 'n roll will rise again just like a blazing phoenix.or whatever lol.

yea i wish that was so, but has rockabilly crud come back?, romantic music? not much.....emo and pop are killing us

[3dd_bggst_fan]

i dont give a crap that emo and pop music is killing us. I think that is why rock is so strong. because the more its suppressed, the heavier and more exclusive it gets. it will always live on

[slashnzakkrule]

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.[/quote]

+1

[slashnzakkrule]

ChrisHecox wrote:

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that


between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.


I am so happy somebody agrees with me that if you can call the Jonas Brothers rockstars, then you are devoid of any kind of concept of what rock is. I can't really place blame on any particular band for turning the charts into the diarea pit that it is now. When Rihanna and Justin Timberlake and The Jonas Brothers are dominating the charts with all of this crap, and people call it good music, and rock? that bugs the "F" out of me. I can't listen to any of it. btw, Slash is incredible.

+infinity!!!

[voodoochild23]

the UK OWNS ROCK, without the beatles, rolling stones, the who, led zeppelin, ur americans wudnt know how to put a 4 man band together to save their lives. n then consider, the influence of black sabbath? the sex pistols? these bands set genres into motion. also, i shud point out, oasis rule. n radiohead are very rock n roll, even if 'creep' is 20 years old or sumthin ridiculous like that.

emo n pop, and most rnb, wont last long, they will die along with their generation of teens, good music dusnt die out that easily.

[Toxtoth_O_Grady]

Hip Hop/Rap/Audio Rape has been around for longer than you can think, it's golden age is passed however, and the modern scene is more urban. This means that it's going through a change and will soon return to even more bluesy, until we get back to rock.

Rolling Stones were ****, if you think otherwise you're kidding yourself. That said a fair few other UK bands were integral to the development.

The two best bands however, AC/DC+Aerosmith are American (sigh) and Aussie (oy oy oy!)

rich420 wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it...

QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

That is too much of a generalisation, me and all my friends are people, and we aren't sick of it.

In your opinion maybe, in my opinion QOTSA are unique sounding, but also shit sounding. Though I do agree there aren't any awesome fresh rock bands nowadays.

Dude, wtf?

QOTSA are really good, they sound awesome and their use of bass is really appealing. They've released brilliant, very distinct albums and Josh Homme has an amazing voice.

[alnicoV]

voodoochild23 wrote:

the UK OWNS ROCK, without the beatles, rolling stones, the who, led zeppelin, ur americans wudnt know how to put a 4 man band together to save their lives. n then consider, the influence of black sabbath? the pistols? these bands set genres into motion. also, i shud point out, oasis rule. n radiohead are very rock n roll, even if 'creep' is 20 years old or sumthin ridiculous like that.

emo n pop, and most rnb, wont last long, they will die along with their generation of teens, good music dusnt die out that easily.

where did the blues come from and later dudes like elvis and chuck berry and stuff...us, so dont act like a snob, cause your bands wouldnt have existed without us to, its a 2 way street.

[pootoob]

mitch311 wrote:

Oh and can someone name me some good current rock bands that is hard to find!?

Bro, listen to Bigelf. They are what rock n roll needs right now.

Also, I would never have admitted it until last night, but rock n roll is basically dead. Last night I went to a club and "it's My Life" by Bon Jovi came on... Everyone started booing! That, to me, is blatant proof that rock n roll is dying.

[reaper846]

its all that new wave rock crap theyre pumping now, no more originality, just 4 people that look "pretty" and some record producer that wants to milk them until they arent popular anymore

[ElThomas]

rock is dead. it just doesnt know where to go. theres the classic rockers, the punks, the pop-rockers, the emos, the goths, the headbangers, the chronics, and whatever you call people who listen to alternative. we need one band to continue the tradition of the beatles and nirvana. one band to unite all rockers and get people interested in this music again. where is that band?

[Peow]

Music, and its vast consumption of Human life, has become a well-oiled business transaction.

Music has changed.

ID-Tagged musicians carry ID tagged Instruments, use ID tagged gear.

Nanomachines inside their bodies popularize and regulate their actions.

Finger control, Money control, Popularity control, on stage control....

Everything is monitored, kept under control.

Music has changed.


If you've played MGS4 and seen the intro, hopefully you'll be laughing by now.

[PaperSun]

Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution.

Rock and Roll ain't gonna die.

[SkidRow92]

shadow__666 wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

shadow__666wrote:
There's no point in just regurgitaing the same old rock and roll/metal bullsh*t cause, as much as you may want it to, it ain't gonna change the world.


Not my point. All I was saying is that generally at those time the rock music that was out was of a VERY flavored. ie. many differebt sounds. Please read the entire post befor you comment.



Dude...I read your post. I wasn't talking to you specifically, I was talking to everyone who wants a particular type of music back on the radio when they just have to face the fact that they ain't coming back.GNR'n'A7X wrote:

Like 'em or hate 'em... we've got AVENGED SEVENFOLD! Disagree with whatever you want to but they've got catchy heavy rock music filled with drum complexity, soaring guitar chops, and raspy vocals. Just my opinion. Anyway, Duff's idea here is understandable. Think about what you see on MTV... rap and pop, "you know it's sad but true".

-DDP


+1. For the life of me, I can't see why the fanboys can't bring themselves around to the simple fact that Avenged Sevenfold are a freaking METAL band. Hairstyles do not put a band in a genre!!!

Don't forget America gave us Fall Out Boy too....someone should definatly shoot us for that one

[porkymc]

OMG!!!!! WHAT IS UP WITH U ROCKERS NOWADAYS!!!!! BLASPHEMY!!! SAYING THAT ROCK N ROLL IS DEAD?!?!?!?!?! U ARE A DISGRACE!!! ROCK N ROLL ISNT DEAD, IT'LL NEVER DIE, RUN DRY, OR GET OLD!!! ITS JUST SO MANY PPL MAKING UP POINTLESS GENRES OF MUSIC THAT DIVIDES US! IN A FEW YEARS ROCK N ROLL WILL RECOVER!!

[earlscourt95]

This is incredible. Rock is dead, rock is dead, bunch of rubbish, man. Rock and roll will never die and everyone who thinks so should take a few days off to consider what they're really saying. Rock and roll of today sucks because everyone's content on being small. No one's going for it, nobody man, and that's the damn straight truth. The music's not clever, the songs aren't clever. No one wants to be Elvis or John Lennon. They all just wanna be little punk shit heads and I haven't got the time for that. The problem also stems from the fact that we call empty acts like the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cirus "Rockstars." I think I'll need therapy if I hear that again.

Rock and roll is NOT dead. Stop looking in the wrong places for it. I could care less if today's rock sucks. I don't listen to it and I never will. You can take your Plain White T's and your Fall Out Boy and shove it. I've got The Beatles and Neil Young and Oasis and I'm all set man. Rock and roll will never die. So shut up with your complaining. You're only making it worse for yourselves.

Bottom line is today's new acts have no passion for music. That's the problem, cut and dry, see ya. Rock isn't dead. Passion for rock is dead, especially here in the States. Until the passion for making real rock and roll comes back, until the passion for being the biggest band in the world comes back, until the passion for playing rock and roll to a stadium full of 70,000 people who get it comes back, rock and roll will seemingly be dead. But there are still bands out there who keep this music style alive, so stop telling me rock is dead. So instead of laying your wits ends on here by crying over the shit that's being turned out of studios these days, pick up a guitar and play. Or if you haven't got one, put on Definitely Maybe or Sgt. Pepper or something that will serve as a blockage between my ears and the 'rock-is-dead' dribble, because frankly I haven't got the time.

[f1sk]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Ya but it's not art anymore, it's product.

i don't think the mars volta or nin is a product

[AxlRose88]

"keeping music alive today" Blind melon!? shannon hoon the singer as been pushing up the daisys since 90s ..keep "gingers" out of the scene as well btw wtf is a (screamer) lol i love that term not

[GoldSoundzUKNZ]

new zealand has a pathetic rock scene. all the great bands move away because they just don't get the support, and hardly anybody big tours because nobody here's heard of them. just look at our top 20 chart for goodness sake: pink, katy perry, pussycat dolls, keri hilson and three six mafia. wtf?

[Kegan]

earlscourt95 wrote:

This is incredible. Rock is dead, rock is dead, bunch of rubbish, man. Rock and roll will never die and everyone who thinks so should take a few days off to consider what they're really saying. Rock and roll of today sucks because everyone's content on being small. No one's going for it, nobody man, and that's the damn straight truth. The music's not clever, the songs aren't clever. No one wants to be Elvis or John Lennon. They all just wanna be little punk shit heads and I haven't got the time for that. The problem also stems from the fact that we call empty acts like the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cirus "Rockstars." I think I'll need therapy if I hear that again.

Rock and roll is NOT dead. Stop looking in the wrong places for it. I could care less if today's rock sucks. I don't listen to it and I never will. You can take your Plain White T's and your Fall Out Boy and shove it. I've got The Beatles and Neil Young and Oasis and I'm all set man. Rock and roll will never die. So shut up with your complaining. You're only making it worse for yourselves.

Bottom line is today's new acts have no passion for music. That's the problem, cut and dry, see ya. Rock isn't dead. Passion for rock is dead, especially here in the States. Until the passion for making real rock and roll comes back, until the passion for being the biggest band in the world comes back, until the passion for playing rock and roll to a stadium full of 70,000 people who get it comes back, rock and roll will seemingly be dead. But there are still bands out there who keep this music style alive, so stop telling me rock is dead. So instead of laying your wits ends on here by crying over the shit that's being turned out of studios these days, pick up a guitar and play. Or if you haven't got one, put on Definitely Maybe or Sgt. Pepper or something that will serve as a blockage between my ears and the 'rock-is-dead' dribble, because frankly I haven't got the time.

No passion for music?
Fuck that, man. Listen to Wilco and tell me today's rock acts haven't got passion for music.

[earlscourt95]

Did I say that every single act in every single city in every single country have no passion for music? No! There are exceptions to everything. Don't take everything literally.

[41plus182]

Toxtoth_O_Grady wrote:

Hip Hop/Rap/Audio Rape has been around for longer than you can think, it's golden age is passed however, and the modern scene is more urban. This means that it's going through a change and will soon return to even more bluesy, until we get back to rock.

Rolling Stones were ****, if you think otherwise you're kidding yourself. That said a fair few other UK bands were integral to the development.

[b]The two best bands however, AC/DC+Aerosmith are American (sigh) and Aussie (oy oy oy!)[/b]
rich420 wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it...

QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

That is too much of a generalisation, me and all my friends are people, and we aren't sick of it.

In your opinion maybe, in my opinion QOTSA are unique sounding, but also shit sounding. Though I do agree there aren't any awesome fresh rock bands nowadays.


Dude, wtf?

QOTSA are really good, they sound awesome and their use of bass is really appealing. They've released brilliant, very distinct albums and Josh Homme has an amazing voice.

Just something to note, Angus was born in Glascow not Australia.

[SmileOfHavok]

GNR'n'A7X wrote:

Like 'em or hate 'em... we've got AVENGED SEVENFOLD! Disagree with whatever you want to but they've got catchy heavy rock music filled with drum complexity, soaring guitar chops, and raspy vocals. Just my opinion. Anyway, Duff's idea here is understandable. Think about what you see on MTV... rap and pop, "you know it's sad but true".

-DDP

Hell yeah. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

PaperSun wrote:

Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution.

Rock and Roll ain't gonna die.

[The Mailman 666]

You know what I miss? I miss bands that have really talented lead guitarists with real passion. Like Slash, Zakk Wylde, Angus Young, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Kirk Hammett, Pete Townshend, Rik Emmitt, Syd Barrett, James Hetfield, Tom Scholz (Boston)

[The Mailman 666]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

You know what I miss? I miss bands that have really talented lead guitarists with real passion. Like Slash, Zakk Wylde, Angus Young, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Kirk Hammett, Pete Townshend, Rik Emmitt, Syd Barrett, James Hetfield, Tom Scholz (Boston)

I mean these KNOW wha rock and roll is all about.

[The Mailman 666]

By the way, yes I am 37 and I just for the first time ever heard the Jonas Brothers on you tube. OMG!!!

I think I’m going to go and jump off a bridge now.

[The Mailman 666]

Is this really what rock and roll has become. Because I'm scared!

[ironwolg]

scottishmob wrote:

This is a site for musicians and you're all crying about the sad state of rock? Fuck that. I'm going to practice more and take over radio. I advise you all to do the same.

amen to that one, there ain't any good music comming out of the radio these days, so i stick to CDs and work on my own shit to throw at the radio

[IfTheWorld]

Times like these are the reason why people should listen to Does It Offend You, Yeah? and realise there is good music out there.

[sebbsmith]

Two words: Barrack Obama.

[pandora_grunt]

GN'R Dude wrote:

We need Meat Loaf back.

Well that state of mind is the problem. We don't need Meat Loaf back. We need a new one. but still +1 for the comment :P

[DeanMarkleysDad]

in the future people will only listen to deadmau5 lol kidding but kinda not

[tntdcvnt_iriz]

to all rockers from every genre,we should stick together n not let rock n roll die.....it'll die if we let it die....keep the spirit running high....keep the torch going...perhaps among all of us here there's a new slash or jimmy page or hendrix....we have to believe that rock n roll will never die...cos if we give in to that,we have lost our identity...screw everything on the airwaves...they dont mean shit..rock n roll is not about that...its about the passion and the love for rock n roll...unite my brothers...n we will prevail....

p/s:dont flame me...just trying to encourage ppl...its depressing to read that alot of ppl losing faith.

[themtalisgood]

I live in australia and if Duff thinks america is non rock n roll, australia has almost no rock talent. Its all hip hop and shit over here. But never the less the worlds losing its faith in rock.

[SlashKirkSynG]

yee it sucks when I'm listening to like GNR or Metallica or VR and ppl are like I can't believe you like that kind of music. And all they listen to is like Young Jeezy or watever

[GearsLut666]

its true r n r isnt big in america but thats because the radio and mtv or watever...they tell ppl wat 2 like and even when it sounds like crap ppl will like just because its on the radio...if there was a good rock band that had a video on mtv or the radio...theres no doubt in my mind that ppl will respond.i mean rap is wat is some ppl get it and some ppl dont and then theres these "so called" rock groups that sound like they're 14 or sumthin and i have no idea why people like that garbage.. but theres something about loud guitars, big drums and an amazing singer that ppl will always be attracted 2 and its rnr and i mean real rock van halen, gnr etc.. im 17 and i have played metalica, guns, motley etc. to them and kids seem amazed by how good it is...all i think is someone needs 2 brake threw and punch the music biz right in the ballz!!

LONG LIVE ROCK N ROLL!

[GearsLut666]

also there has 2 be like a underground rock scene that pretty good right??? ihope!!! lmao...anyway i think change is coming

[tntdcvnt_iriz]

TO THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK.....WE SALUTE U!!!!

[-pantera]

It's quite upsettin readin about yall rockers addmitting to rock not being that popular =[ im in a band and its like all i wanna do is get out there and show the world what music is.Evryone needs to.rocks only dead if you think it is.only we can change it

[replica_]

Shabalaba wrote:

RonMexico wrote:

UK, you can have Duff... We've still got AXL


I think we have the best deal

Airbourne = Pure rock n' roll, maybe a bit AC/DC-ish but they are a totally awesome band nether the less

****in' A man i agree!!

[replica_]

see the thing is the term "rock" has lost all meaning that it once had. i mean you get these kids now-a-days with these disney films and shows about teenagers playing so called rock n roll.
and stuff like that is making the younger generation think differently about rock. then you got that show in america that was like "american idol", think it was called rock idol not sure, and also "hanna montana!" i also caught my little bro watching what was "camp rock" a disney made movie, n i thought hmmm maybe they might redeem themselves. but what i witnessed was blasphemy! they completely desecrated the term "rock"....children rapping, dance routines, lip syncing....rock is dead.
i can only think of airbourne who is the one bringing some meaning back to rock n possibly alter bridge too. other than that you have to go way back and listen to bands like the who, t-rex, led zepplin, ac/dc, the rolling stones, van halen, rush, GnR.

[GibsonLP B-52]

damn hes right. i wish it was, modern music licks sack

[xHellbound]

There's too many "artists." Everyone thinks they have a shot at being big, and they all try. Too many people trying to accomplish something new, and I don't think anything new is out there.

America likes its "flavor of the month," so record companies will keep pushing their 1-Hit Wonder until they've made as much money as possible off it, in the mean time trying to find their next new hit.

I figured rock would be popular again with all this Guitar Hero/Rock Band stuff. But people throw parties, get drunk, play it, then listen to rap again the next morning.

[adrian313]

There's quite a number of reasons why rock music has lost some of its appeal in the US, but the main reason is that there are just so many genres of music thrown into mainstream nowadays that a lot of the times rock is overshadowed.

If you considered back in the late 70s and 80s and even the early 90s, rock dominated just because it was all over. Not much genres could contend. Nowadays, there is just so much the music industry (you have to admit that it's an industry) can offer. I shun anyone who denies the voice of Alicia Keys, or the raw power of Eminem, or the hard-hitting Tupac, or the originality of Amy Winehouse.

The other problem is that "rock" music has incredibly diversified that it becomes natural to side with certain subgenres. The wrong notion however is to think that rock is dead. The tag rock'n'roll is another debatable issue, and I firmly believe that it belongs to people like Gerry and the Pacemakers, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Fats Domino, and the likes.

There's nothing wrong with rock in the US per se, but its just one genre out of so many. And don't ignorantly dismiss other types of music. As a person who goes from the classic Little Richie, to the grandiose Led Zeppelin, to the obscure Strawberry Alarm Clock, to the weird Gentle Giant, to the post-punk The Killers, to the jam-driven Dave Matthews Band, to the ethereal and undeniably catchy Alicia Keys, to the simplistic The Hives (or not so simple.. its debatable), to the rhymes of Eminem and B.I.G., I can easily say that I know music quite well, and that you can't simply dismiss any artist by means of genre alone. I can also easily say that rock is not dead. Not by my standards. It's just not as dominant. Just like in the 60s: there was rock and its variants, then there was motown, soul, r&b (a la Rolling Stones and the Small Faces mind you), and even jazz. Coltrane needs more attention, btw.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

I do believe music should progress, but I dont believe the dominant emo music should be called progress, its three steps back if you ask me, this is why i listen to mostly older music and a few modern bands who are actually making good music.

[The Mailman 666]

replica_ wrote:

see the thing is the term "rock" has lost all meaning that it once had. i mean you get these kids now-a-days with these disney films and shows about teenagers playing so called rock n roll.
and stuff like that is making the younger generation think differently about rock. then you got that show in america that was like "american idol", think it was called rock idol not sure, and also "hanna montana!" i also caught my little bro watching what was "camp rock" a disney made movie, n i thought hmmm maybe they might redeem themselves. but what i witnessed was blasphemy! they completely desecrated the term "rock"....children rapping, dance routines, lip syncing....rock is dead.
i can only think of airbourne who is the one bringing some meaning back to rock n possibly alter bridge too. other than that you have to go way back and listen to bands like the who, t-rex, led zepplin, ac/dc, the rolling stones, van halen, rush, GnR.

Agreed my friend!!

Here’s another thought. When I was in my late teens
early twenties the rock and metal of the day was aimed
at MY age group (19-30ish) you know, young drinkers.
Today, it seems that all this so called “rock” is
being aimed at a much younger audience. Yes? I mean there is no way that a record company is going to advertise bands that sound like AC/DC, Rush, Van Halen, Scorpions to 12-17 year olds. The up tight parents of the world would lose there freakin’ minds! Not to say that all bands had a mature sound when I was young, I mean remember Twister Sister LOL. That shit was bad!!! But the younger crowd ate it up and I believe that is when this younger trend started up back in the 80’s.

I think my point is, the younger the age group you aim your product at, the less sophisticated it needs to be, the easier it is to produce and the more profitable it becomes. The music business is ALL about money. Look what happened in the 90s with shit bands like Nirvana. I know a lot of you guys like them and I understand why. But please understand that “depressing teenagers is like shooting fish in a barrel” (Immortal words of Bart Simpson!). That is the ONLY reason Nirvana ever saw the light of day. Stupid depressing songs written by a monkey brained fool with nothing to live for! What joke! I mean come on, Kirk Cobain couldn’t play guitar worth shit! It wasn’t about how talented he was, it was about getting kids to feel sad for him. OMG. If you have a real good listen to music the lasting groups from the 70s-80s you’ll notice a general theme “sex, drugs and rock and roll” PARTYING!!! The music was mostly about having a “good” time with friends, very “nice” love songs or thoughts about the world. It wasn’t about how ****in’ shit my life is or the band trying to sympathize with all the depressed kids out there. I mean who game up with this shit! RECORD COMPANIES!!!!! And here we are.

Sex, drugs and really partying hard are major taboo things now. So it only makes sense that the music that supported it is dieing. Kids are so worried about looking stupid around each other. It’s weird. When I was young all we did was, go to different friends houses when their parents weren’t home listened to our favorite bands drank, smoked pot, made out with our girlfriends and did stupid shit in from of one another to make each other laugh. Good ****in’ times, I’ll never forget. We had lots of stuff to be depressed about, but instead we partied to make it better. We had friends, good music and that was all we needed.

Ok that one got a little long! Sorry guys.

Shawn

[The Mailman 666]

When I say sex and drugs are taboo I don’t meant that kids aren’t doing them I mean kids don’t really joke with each other about them as much. So worried about hurting each others “feelings” Fuck! I mean grow a set of balls already!

[Kegan]

earlscourt95 wrote:

Did I say that every single act in every single city in every single country have no passion for music? No! There are exceptions to everything. Don't take everything literally.

yes, yes you did.
you said "today's acts have no passion for music," and then you went on to say that bands no longer have passion for all of the wrong things (isn't writing an interesting song people can relate to far more important than playing to a stadium full of people?).
I don't know how else I can interpret that or how I might have known you would completely contradict the statement over a paragraph later.

but then, what's it matter anyways? Just listen to Wilco.

[The Mailman 666]

The music of the day 70-80 made us happier not sadder.

[The Mailman 666]

[quote]Kegan wrote:

earlscourt95 wrote:

Did I say that every single act in every single city in every single country have no passion for music? No! There are exceptions to everything. Don't take everything literally.


(isn't writing an interesting song people can relate to far more important than playing to a stadium full of people?).

quote]

I disagree with you,

Bands today I think are to worried about "relating to the people" I say **** that! I want to hear about how good a time you ****ers are having being in a rock an roll band baby!!!!! Let's hear songs about all the hot chicks your ****in' and all the crazy times your having while touring around the world playing your music that is all about being in a ROCK AN" ROLL BAND!!!!!YA!!!!!

[Kegan]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

When I say sex and drugs are taboo I don’t meant that kids aren’t doing them I mean kids don’t really joke with each other about them as much. So worried about hurting each others “feelings” Fuck! I mean grow a set of balls already!

That's not true at all.
At least, not at my high school. The faggots listening to the disney music aren't the kind of kids that would joke about that sort of thing in the first place.

[The Mailman 666]

Can I ask you this? Are kids that smoke pot considered "pot heads"?

Because when I was young there was no such thing as a pot head. We were all just average kids that smoked pot a few times a month. Maybe 3-4 times whenever we were at a party or together with a big enough goup to make it fun. I think most kids thta smoke today do it in smaller groups and have to be much more carefull who knows about it.

[The Mailman 666]

I'd just like to say that this is an awesome thread! Great conversation!

[Kegan]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Can I ask you this? Are kids that smoke pot considered "pot heads"?

Because when I was young there was no such thing as a pot head. We were all just average kids that smoked pot a few times a month. Maybe 3-4 times whenever we were at a party or together with a big enough goup to make it fun. I think most kids thta smoke today do it in smaller groups and have to be much more carefull who knows about it.

I suppose that all depends who you're talking to.
I'm not really in any particular crowd, so I don't go around smoking, drinking, or doing any form of drugs myself, but I think most kids accept it. Really, I don't see any of the three things as so bad (obviously smoking will lead to lung cancer), with the exception of alcohol and the chance of drunk driving.

[SupermanIsDead]

**** rock'n roll. rock'n roll is the most terrible and pathetic music. i'll shit on rock'n roll. haha..
long live rap music.

**** rock'n roll. it's the music of all pathetic creature in the world

[SupermanIsDead]

just kidding guys, rock'n roll for life man

[The Mailman 666]

Kegan wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Can I ask you this? Are kids that smoke pot considered "pot heads"?

Because when I was young there was no such thing as a pot head. We were all just average kids that smoked pot a few times a month. Maybe 3-4 times whenever we were at a party or together with a big enough goup to make it fun. I think most kids thta smoke today do it in smaller groups and have to be much more carefull who knows about it.


I suppose that all depends who you're talking to.
I'm not really in any particular crowd, so I don't go around smoking, drinking, or doing any form of drugs myself, but I think most kids accept it. Really, I don't see any of the three things as so bad (obviously smoking will lead to lung cancer), with the exception of alcohol and the chance of drunk driving.

Drinking does not LEAD to druck driving!!! Bad disicinsions lead to drunk driving. Also I never smoked cigarets

[Kegan]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Kegan wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

Can I ask you this? Are kids that smoke pot considered "pot heads"?

Because when I was young there was no such thing as a pot head. We were all just average kids that smoked pot a few times a month. Maybe 3-4 times whenever we were at a party or together with a big enough goup to make it fun. I think most kids thta smoke today do it in smaller groups and have to be much more carefull who knows about it.


I suppose that all depends who you're talking to.
I'm not really in any particular crowd, so I don't go around smoking, drinking, or doing any form of drugs myself, but I think most kids accept it. Really, I don't see any of the three things as so bad (obviously smoking will lead to lung cancer), with the exception of alcohol and the chance of drunk driving.

Drinking does not LEAD to druck driving!!! Bad disicinsions lead to drunk driving. Also I never smoked cigarets

Unfortunately, for most people, drinking leads to bad decisions and drunk driving. There are a ton of stupid people in the world and alcohol gets the better of a lot of them.
Drunk driving is not to be taken lightly.

[worton]

please more rock bands tour britain

[soilworker3]

America just isn't rock n roll for Velvet Revolver. Quality rock music is the only music that does not go away because things like MTV destroy it. Considering it is the only genre that has an "underground" scene, most people aren't looking very hard for quality music. Most of my favorite bands now I discovered seeing them open up for other bands at shows and places like ozzfest and sounds of the underground. Going to the shows is still the best place to see who's who.

[Kegan]

The Mailman 666 wrote:

[quote]Kegan wrote:

earlscourt95 wrote:

Did I say that every single act in every single city in every single country have no passion for music? No! There are exceptions to everything. Don't take everything literally.


(isn't writing an interesting song people can relate to far more important than playing to a stadium full of people?).

quote]

I disagree with you,

Bands today I think are to worried about "relating to the people" I say **** that! I want to hear about how good a time you ****ers are having being in a rock an roll band baby!!!!! Let's hear songs about all the hot chicks your ****in' and all the crazy times your having while touring around the world playing your music that is all about being in a ROCK AN" ROLL BAND!!!!!YA!!!!!

If that's what you're interested in, it's no wonder a lot of your favorite music has died out. Few people listen to music to hear about what the band did on tour. Usually they're looking for interesting use of note phrasing or lyrics that don't sound just like what's on the radio and every ACDC record of all time.

[SkidRow92]

sebbsmith wrote:

Two words: Barrack Obama.

wtf does obama have to do with rock and roll?!

[Jake1130]

well.... hes rite, pretty much all bands out now adays arent dong anything original, however, one band i truly still think is "rock n' roll" is the Foo Fighters

thatnk you for keeping rock alive foos !

[A-440]

i know this is a guitar site, but i think an article about travis barker and his plane crash in the general music news section would be respectful.

[ElThomas]

A-440 wrote:

i know this is a guitar site, but i think an article about travis barker and his plane crash in the general music news section would be respectful.

your right man. he crashed right near my house

checked.
god damn.

[TylerAOH&A7X]

we need more bands walking in the path of RUSH!! Mars Volta!!! Dream Theater!!! and lets talk metal...Opeth, and oh not to ever mention, BETWEEN THE BURIED & ME

.....oh and to add a little controversy, Avenged Sevenfold, think about it, and theyve really stirred up the early fans with new ones with their new album, and i see them as TRULY unique, so think what you want about them, POSERS is the annual term

**** hip hop and rap!! seriously, no more!!

[Garf72]

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.

if anyone considers green day or mcr punk they're simply wrong.
the uk's doing alright in terms of rock n roll but the us has some catching up to do

[aliceinc]

Duff seems convinced the new Alice In Chains album could shake things up. From his blog - "I have had the good fortune to hear a lot of the new music that the guys have put together for their upcoming recording: ****ing AWESOME! I believe we need a band like Alice in Chains now more than ever. A band who always has worn their heart on their collective sleeve. A band who couldn’t give two shits about what is “hip” or current. These guys have always set trends. With what I have heard of the new music, they will continue to do so."

from http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2008/09/alice_in_chain s_i_back_these_g.php

[ntchode]

rock and roll is dead, because nobody gives a **** about trying to be creative and trying to write good complex songs with meaningful lyrics and interesting music.

I mean come on Kid Rock is famous for singing sweet home alabama all summer long???? wtf

what happened to a few good musicians getting together and setting out to make something incredible, trying to reach out and touch something in the listeners soul?

I don't mean everybody has to try and sound like pink floyd, or whoever from the past, but It wouldn't hurt if they quit listening to producers and sound engineers and started listening to the music.

[mindbender747]

Rock and roll is dead but it shall live again

[41plus182]

Garf72 wrote:

Ali-b912 wrote:

Garf72 wrote:

rock n roll still exists, just people are stuck in the past about the whole thing. its constantly reinventing itself as a movement and the old guard need to accept that

between the 50's and the 70's rock got more complicated. in the later 70's rock became the softer, and the progressively heavier stuff was now deemed "metal". it continued getting more complicated in metal. then all of a sudden, the 90's happened and rock went to being simple chords (grunge) and in the 00's metal went that way too with nu metal, and rock went to basically being punk

basically after the 80's rock devolved backwards to simple chords. it was just louder. even punk got simplified. compare the clash or the sex pistols to some contemporary punk bands, and its much simpler (assuming you consider greenday, MCR etc. as punk)

TL;DR in this age the jonas brothers are rockstars. this is an outrage.


if anyone considers green day or mcr punk they're simply wrong.
the uk's doing alright in terms of rock n roll but the us has some catching up to do

I dont know about MCR, theyre more emo than anything probably, but Green Day were one of the few pioneers of punk in the 90's.No they didn't invent punk, and no they did'nt bring it back alone, but they did help re-start the good, fast punk rock. You can't deny that "Kerplunk" wasn't punk.

[Rock_kid88]

The term "Not Very Rock n Roll" is ridiculous. Its using the term like that, that limits the genre. "Rock" has been around since before the 50's, and people have constantly had the ability to adapt and advance on it. "Rock" is not set in stone.

[rinestone]

rock n roll will never die

[cryonaka]

i know this is a myspace page, but its the only place i know u can stream there music, but a local band where i live called, the grey company are REAL rock, listen up http://www.myspace.com/thegreycompanyband

[The Mailman 666]

cryonaka wrote:

i know this is a myspace page, but its the only place i know u can stream there music, but a local band where i live called, the grey company are REAL rock, listen up http://www.myspace.com/thegreycompanyband

I think the music isn't to bad but the singer sucks!

[niftycakedude]

I think easy access to new music has made rock n roll die. Who wants to listen to disturbed and nickelback when hundreds of much better bands are a click away? Most of whats being played now it just rehashed ideas on grunge. When will post-post-grunge die. arg. Indie music and metal are far more creative and engaging forms of guitar music, and they are filling the void for those who want to listen to good music. Just listen Neutral Milk Hotel and Necrophagist and you will forget rock and roll even still exists. Also Radio-rock is music for masses, hence it is boring and I think most guitar players know that.

[Kegan]

ntchode wrote:

rock and roll is dead, because nobody gives a **** about trying to be creative and trying to write good complex songs with meaningful lyrics and interesting music.

I mean come on Kid Rock is famous for singing sweet home alabama all summer long???? wtf

what happened to a few good musicians getting together and setting out to make something incredible, trying to reach out and touch something in the listeners soul?

I don't mean everybody has to try and sound like pink floyd, or whoever from the past, but It wouldn't hurt if they quit listening to producers and sound engineers and started listening to the music.

Maybe none of the mainstream artists, but there are plenty of good, passionate Rock and Roll acts around, you just have to dig through more garbage than ever to find them.

The Killers, Retribution Gospel Choir, Vampire Weekend and Wilco are only five or so off the top of my head. Their guitarists might not sound like Eddie Van Halen or Angus Young, but they're rock and roll and very creative musicians.

[niftycakedude]

I think if people decide what they want to listen to they should look into different genres. There are plenty of amazing guitar players out there, but the bands they are in aren't played on the radio. Listen to the Absence and tell me their solos dont 100% pwn eruption. If your looking for solos- go for melodic death metal, if your looking for creativity look into indie bands, if your looking for passion look into hardcore and (good) emo. If your looking for awesome then listen to decapitated. There is a shit ton of good music being created but most people are to lazy to find it.

[carcass_prowler]

"the world isnt very rock n roll anymore"... well not with THAT attitude!!!

[angusfan16]

3dd_bggst_fan :
i dont give a crap that emo and pop music is killing us. I think that is why rock is so strong. because the more its suppressed, the heavier and more exclusive it gets. it will always live on


hes right ya know. i think weve lost the definition of wut "Rock" really means. wut it means (to me atleast) is that we are the underdogs were pushed and tossed around, beatin, broken, whatever you wanna call it, but after all that we get back up even stronger. after bein knocked on our arse we grab our guitars tell the world that we wont die. another thing. The Jonas Bros. i dont like them i dont think they deserve all the attention that they get and i dont think they earn the title "Rockstars" but we gota recognize that they have musical talent. they can sing (atleast way better then i can) and they can play a guitar even if it's not crazy solos like Randy Rhoads or Dimebag(R.I.P.) played.

[Savage Animal]

After reading most of these comments, I'm convinced kids today are retarded

[cdm0048]

this guy's 100% right about rock in the states hopefully AC/DC's new album will streighten ppl's thinking out the only modern rock that i hear today that sticks close to classic rock is Wolfmother

[SAINTJIMMY9999]

Rock N Roll was a genre that belonged to the baby boomers (a bunch of selfish gits that bitch about everything). In response, Generation X reinvented rock into punk and metal.

Now all that's left of good music is the remanents of these genres, but given time, good music will reinvent itself once again.

[blackrose96]

What about the latin american rock scene??
Some of the bands down here are WAY better than most american band that are out right now.

[Bullethead]

You cant kill rock and roll

[mrguitarman]

i find it amusing that someone who is in a band that sounds just like any other band out there says that rock and roll is dead. that is because of bands like velvet revolver.

[F8iscruel]

trying to break down the emo scene is not going to happen. emo is a stnadpoint in our culture now. heck one something that big gets a graps on the culutre you cant really lose it. people still follow grunge styles (although grunge and post grunge evolved into alt rock and hard rock recently)now there are some bands who get thrown into the emo scene that dont belong there like MCR for example if you actually listen to the music on the black parade (album) youll find tht its very good as a rock album. belive me i am open to alot of genres and anything that catches my ear ill listen to, but you cant say that americas rock is dead.

[LynchMobster]

what's with this grunge hating? if you posses the ability to hate and deny the talent bands like Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots, then you are soulless

[F8iscruel]

also emo is kind of the genre that killed nu metal, and pop has killed emo. and as we all know when pop kill something it takes a long time for it to get old (to the general population). so trying to make people listne to something original is like asking them to stick a sword down there throat, most people wont take the risk and will bash whoever does it thoroughly. and dont think metal will take control it never really does. it just mkaes a good foot hold and knocks down the slef esteem of those pop people all little. i think that you need something that taes wht exists and is either simple or catchy or both. becuase peple tend to look away form something complex and not of good sound to their ears.

[xXChimairaXx]

LynchMobster wrote:

what's with this grunge hating? if you posses the ability to hate and deny the talent bands like Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots, then you are soulless

Absotively posilutely. Those are amazing bands. Jerry Cantrell, Chris Cornell, Scott Weiland, and Eddie Vedder...phew thats some talent right there.

[jaxin7]

UK is the only rock n roll place left on earth...america is a bunch of sad gits who invented rock n roll and ruined it within 20 years.

[markojuo]

i dont think UG gets it that when something is 5 days old, it doesnt qualify as news anymore.

[pkweon]

Loudspeaker003 wrote:

sad but true.

+1

[Bloodandfire]

Duff McKagan isnt very Rock n' roll anymore.

[ShyGuy {IZAIAH}]

Modern R&B is the new cool thing nowadays.
I gave it a chance. Now all i wanna do is stab someone... Preferably the hack artists.

[the goblin]

Who does this guy think he is? Because no one plays the same cliche rock and roll anymore it's dead? It hasn't died at all. It has just moved into new areas. No one in rock and roll talks like they just bought a limo, did some coke or had a bunch of crazy women with huge hair "please" them in any way. There are some many bands now that kick ass in new elements of rock that he is completely clueless about. Queens of the Stone Age, RATM, Death from Above 1979, Mark Lanegan, the Mars Volta, Muse, Tool, the Butthole Surfers. The list keeps going. OPEN YOUR MIND to great new music.

[JoMamma24]

Kada2110 wrote:

Rock was "dead" for some time, but as more as I watch the charts, its coming back! Slipknot, Whitesnake, Metallica, Disturbed, Buckcherry, Daughtry and all of those bands really rock and are ****ing popular! In 5 years or so, we will have the 80's back.

Dude, who in their right minds think that daughtry ****ing rocks? true they are really popular but that doesnt mean anything nowadays. the only reason they are popular is because he was on that piece of shit they call a show and he is exploiting that.

[silverchairman]

I learnt how dire a situation rock faced when someone at school asked me:

"Who are Guns 'n' Roses?"

shortly followed by:

"Who are AC/DC?"

... I cried for a week

[dramabeats90]

america isnt very rock n rool anymore this much is true i mean i get asked probaly every week at least wat band im playing on my guitar and i want to smack someone and say ITS FREAKIN GUNS N ROSES! or metallica or aerosmith the classic shit isnt really what i grew up with well guns nr oses sure as hell was there the first few years or so lol but i still love all the rest and for people to tell me the music i listen to isnt good makes me wanna sk them is the bullshit u listen about slappin hoes and killing oyur wife any better at least my shit has substance

[JoMamma24]

sorry to double post but this is one of those issues that has been pissing me off for a long time. I just kind of find it funny how back in the 70s and 80s, bands would spend sometimes up to 4 years making an album and no one would pay it any attention. nowadays, if a band doesn't come out with an album every 2 years, they think the band has broken up and when they finally came out with an album, they call it a comeback. take system of a down for instance. between steal this album and mezmerize, there was only a gap of 3 years and yet they called it a comeback. one of the problems is that most of these mainstream bands have writers that write this generic crap for them and they really have no say in what thier "album" sounds like and yet they come across like it is all thier work and "they hit a creative vein". sorry for rambling but god dammit it makes me pissed right the **** off.

[Blasphemylol]

Wow this really makes me appreciate the new Metallica album, not rock I agree but i think you guys understand

[The_Fuzz22]

[quote]southern_stylin wrote:
Ask the same girl who the Jonas Brothers are and they'll cream themselves.[/quote
*sigh* If only.

[The_Fuzz22]

southern_stylin wrote:
Ask the same girl who the Jonas Brothers are and they'll cream themselves.

*sigh* If only.

[dramabeats90]

rock n roll has been around since like the 40's i think idk and to see the bands outt here today being constituded as "Rock" makes me sick like ****in lets see take emo bands like hawthorne hieghts and my chemical romance this kinda bullshit gives real music a bad name ohhh im sad let me cut my wirst ohhhh ****in my mommy didnt lovve me im a non conformist gimmy a ****in break bands like guns n roses is what makes me want to even pick up a guitar but bands like my chem are ****in makin me want to not even touch a les paul anymore that used ot be my dream guitar a 1959 les paul standard i saw a video of my chem playing one of em and nearly shot the t.v. cause i was so ashamed of that shit on my television

[sharjes]

rock n roll is not dead. its the most enduring sound in music. it keeps reinventing itself. it's only as limited as all other kinds of music, including hip-hop. especially after nirvana, rock in general has really become even more meaningful, full of soul and feeling. if anything, now is the time young rockers should pick up the guitar and express themselves. pop and hip hop are completely packaged and marketed stuff. rock is different. atleast it was and should remain so. ROCK IS WHAT IT IS.

[f1sk]

if rock and roll means dying my hair bleach blonde and cutting it to look like a chick + adding a scarf then yes its dead duff

[RideTheRomeo]

there are some fresh rock bands around! come on, priestess, black tide, the answer... theres loads you've just gotta find them! rock n roll will never die!!!

[shadow__666]

So much whining, so little action. Come on guys, this is a call to arms for us! It's our f*cking duty to create something new, something rock for f*cks sake! Borrow from the 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever, don't steal from them like Wolfmother and the White Stripes do, but take them and make something with it! For God's sake, just get off here and get busy. I never thought I'd see so much b*tching anywhere short of Emo-Fest. And I like a lot of emo bands.

[shadow__666]

dramabeats90 wrote:

rock n roll has been around since like the 40's i think idk and to see the bands outt here today being constituded as "Rock" makes me sick like ****in lets see take emo bands like hawthorne hieghts and my chemical romance this kinda bullshit gives real music a bad name ohhh im sad let me cut my wirst ohhhh ****in my mommy didnt lovve me im a non conformist gimmy a ****in break bands like guns n roses is what makes me want to even pick up a guitar but bands like my chem are ****in makin me want to not even touch a les paul anymore that used ot be my dream guitar a 1959 les paul standard i saw a video of my chem playing one of em and nearly shot the t.v. cause i was so ashamed of that shit on my television

I'd like to see you play every song on Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge (the sellout turd that is I'm Not Okay excepted). Then you have a right to b*tch.

[metalhead64]

I don't know if rock is dead in the US or not. Probably - nobody seems very "dangerous" anymore, do they? It's mainly corporate fodder.

I DO know, from last night's gig in Gateshead, UK that Duff and Loaded are very much alive and are kicking out some great rock n roll. Rock like it should be - with ATTITUDE!

[Electroplex]

DimeLvR wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.

Go listen to 'Origin of Symmetry' by Muse.

Indeed.

[Dio10101]

He's right. I blame rap and pop and stuff, it brought rock out of the mainstream. And all these new so-called "Rock Bands" half of them aren't even rock.

[markojuo]

JoMamma24 wrote:

Kada2110 wrote:

Rock was "dead" for some time, but as more as I watch the charts, its coming back! Slipknot, Whitesnake, Metallica, Disturbed, Buckcherry, Daughtry and all of those bands really rock and are ****ing popular! In 5 years or so, we will have the 80's back.

those arent rock bands moron

[Hungry_Hameds]

Pearl Jam, Kings of Leon, Foo Fighters, Muse, Feeder, Black Crowes, Alice in Chains (soon), QOTSA, Biffy Clyro these guys are all rock bands, I'd say Pearl Jam, Kings of Leon, Biffy and QOTSA are the ones that havent faded into radio friendly music. AIC remains to be seen but I'd hope they too would still really rock. with the others ie Foos, feeder, Muse, they are more radio friendly but still on the outskirts, you could say bridging the gap between underground and commercial, which i think makes them still credible as rock and not pop. I dont pay attention to the charts, if a band is awesome, they are awesome whether at No#1 or No#100, or not even in the charts. I think we in the UK appreciate rock more, as a lot of people like RnB, Hip hop and all that crap, which i cant stand but each to their own.

I hope VR's next outing is as ballsy as the last two, and i think Scott Weiland is a very replaceable frontman!

[tntdcvnt_iriz]

didnt metal originally come from rock?i mean,most stuff on music actually orginated from rock...right?correct me if im wrong....every decade the definition of rock or metal or watever changes...during the 70's or 80's,there wasnt any nu-metal or emo or grunge or watever....if im not mistaken....please dont flame me because im a bit confused.....everybody starts to catergorize everything thats its difficult to identify wats wat anymore....

[nikkisixx1993]

the bands today like panic at the disco and all them emo bands are so fake... thats not rock n roll, its pop. rock n roll isnt wat it should be. its all about the money these days, not about the music.

[steelfingers]

Electroplex wrote:

DimeLvR wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.


Go listen to 'Origin of Symmetry' by Muse.

Indeed.

+1. go Muse!

[steelfingers]

tntdcvnt_iriz wrote:

didnt metal originally come from rock?i mean,most stuff on music actually orginated from rock...right?correct me if im wrong....every decade the definition of rock or metal or watever changes...during the 70's or 80's,there wasnt any nu-metal or emo or grunge or watever....if im not mistaken....please dont flame me because im a bit confused.....everybody starts to catergorize everything thats its difficult to identify wats wat anymore....

sorry for the double post guys. anyway, yes everything came from rock, but rock came from blues. Blues came from gospel. ect. so what im saying is that everything came from something

[rockinlespaul]

I love how everyone "enlightens" everyone else about the history of mainstream American music and tries to make their version sound like brilliance.

[MadsonButcher]

Today the music is a real shit, everything turns the money and to be succeeded you only need a stupid letter and a sticky noise, and appear in mtv; a real work and effort do not exist to do anything that might represent his ideal ones and talents .
En lationamerica todas las bandas son asquerosamente malas , en el sentido de que no aportan nada original y solo estan para hacer plata , en mtv todos los dias veo bandas nuevas , y todas suenan exactamente igual.
long live to rock n roll

[MadsonButcher]

MadsonButcher wrote:

Today the music is a real shit, everything turns around the money and to be succeeded you only need a stupid letter and a sticky noise, and appear in mtv; a real work and effort do not exist to do anything that might represent his ideal ones and talents .
En lationamerica todas las bandas son asquerosamente malas , en el sentido de que no aportan nada original y solo estan para hacer plata , en mtv todos los dias veo bandas nuevas , y todas suenan exactamente igual.
long live to rock n roll

[Caribousunking]

Electroplex wrote:

DimeLvR wrote:

The Mailman 666 wrote:

I’m not stuck in the past. You want to know what I like that is current. I’ll tell you.

Nightwish
Nickleback (old)
I do like a few songs for Slashes newish band.

But you have to admit nothing has come out in the last 15 years that even comes close albums like,

Ozzy’s “No More Tears and Ozzmosis”
Van Halen’s “1984”
Matallica’s “Black album”
Def Leppard’s “Pyromania”
Supertamp’s “Breakfast in America and Crime of the Century”
Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” (I mean go listen to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”)
Motley Crue’s “Shout at the Devil and DrFeelgood”
AC/DC “Highway to Hell and Back in Black”
Gun’s and Roses “anything!”
Boston’s “Boston and Third Stage”
Pink Flyd “The Wall”

I could go on and on.



Go listen to 'Origin of Symmetry' by Muse.

Indeed.

Pixies, Nirvana, Sonic Youth, White Stripes and Weezer have released albums superior to the stuff you mentioned. (When did Ozzy EVER release a classic solo album? The man is a clown.)

[tntdcvnt_iriz]

caribousunking,i have to disagree with u saying that Pixies, Nirvana, Sonic Youth, White Stripes and Weezer released albums superior than the likes of van halen,guns n roses,def leppard n so forth.for instance,at the time of the release of appetite for destruction,that was a groundbreaking album.it shook the rock scene.same as nirvana's nevermind at the time it was released.so to me all the albums that were released impacted the scene heavily.in my opinion,all of these albums are important.without them then we wont be having this conversation.we wont be enjoying all those songs that meant a lot to us.like for me,songs like nightrain,paradise city really inspired me to be a guitarist.they bring back memories.i think thats wat important to me.if u like an album,so be it.u dont like the album,thats ur opinion.but one thing for sure,rock will live on....we just have to carry the torch n dont let the fires of rock n roll die....wat do u say?

[daniam]

amen...this country has been pu$$fied with these so called rock boys...fall out boys (what did they fall out of), afi (fags), weezer (sissy), etc...they are nuthin but mickey mouse club acts..hey sissys..time for pose...snap snap bi^ch...will a band in the works come out and play some rock and roll...and kick these sissy-boy bands in the area where they have a ? mark, none are men, so nuts they do not have...rock on america....

[grave_dancer]

southern_stylin wrote:

There are no shows on MTV that showcase Rock and Roll. You don't see rock bands cruising into clubs with a 30-man entourage. You don't see drummers rollin' through Miami with 30" rims. How many Metal bands are hopping around on stage with 46kgs of diamonds around their necks?

My point is this, it's not marketable. The 'industry' can't sell useless shit lifestyles to the kids through Rock and Roll. Especially when there are thousands of wannabe rap *cringe* artists waiting in the wings, ready to sell their souls for exactly all that crap. Ask any teenage girl who Duff McKagan is and you'll get a blank stare. Ask the same girl who the Jonas Brothers are and they'll cream themselves. Makes me sick.

Ok, let's not stereotype all teenage girls here. Some of us still have brains dammit! Being a teenage girl I believe that my opinion will defunct your theory of us 'creaming' ourselves at the mention of the Jonas Brothers seeing as I would #1) Not give you a blank stare after being asked who Duff McKagan is but rather give you a long ass lecture about Guns, VR, Loaded, Neurotic Outsiders etc. #2) rather shoot myself than listen to one god awful song made by those pre-packaged Disney loving *******s masquerading as musicians. Granted yes, some of my peers do think that the Jonas Brothers are "OMG so hawt!!" but they should not be considered the representatives for our age/gender group seeing as there are many of us who prefer better music. MUCH better music. Thanks.
– Carly.

[JamesxHetfield]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Rock and roll is dead because it limits itself. It has run dry of ideas and people are sick of it. It's a limited genre and most of anything has been done already. Most bands don't do anything truly new, just rehash. QOTSA for example are one of the few who stand out and play "unique" rock and roll.

Duff is still stuck in the past when Rock dominated as music choice. Nowadays there are many more choices for mainstream america to get into. But it would also help if Velvet Revolver was actually good and if Slash could write an engaging guitar line.

Velvet Revolver is awesome so FUCK YOU!!!