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Marilyn Manson Discusses Latest Album |
| artist: marilyn manson |
date: 06/25/2009 |
category: interviews |
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Love him or hate him, Marilyn Manson is an interesting person to say the least. Speaking with Spin.com’s William Goodman, Manson tackles everything from his latest record, to his recent break-up with actress Evan Rachel Wood, to things I wasn’t even comfortable reposting in this article. You can read for yourself the full, and very adult, interview here. Otherwise, here are some still very raunchy excerpts.
Spin: What's up with your album's title, The High End of Low?
Marilyn Manson: I went through a tough period over Christmas, during which I learned the difference between love and dependence, and the difference between weakness and desire. And it made a big difference in my life.
So I came back [to the studio] on January 2, and I saw my only friends, which at this point is the band, and everyone asked me, "How're you doing?" And I said, "Well, I'm at the high end of low." And automatically I knew that that's what the record was going to called.
What was the recording process like? It's been over seven years since you and Twiggy worked together. Was that tough?
Well, it's the album that Twiggy and I always wanted to make. And unfortunately, or fortunately, it took us being apart to get to that place. He went and he did things on his own, and I did things on my own, and we both did things that we're proud of. He started with the music and I wrote the lyrics, and I was involved in production in a different sense. [Producer/ex-Nine Inch Nails drummer] Chris Vrenna played the role of the responsible person, although we tormented him plenty. I'm in a vocal booth, isolated, with my every breath and wheezing deviated septum and coughing and vomiting and ejaculating, whatever noises are coming out of me, I made [Vrenna] write down my lyrics. A lot of times, I went into songs with ideas only formed in the part of my head that I don't know how to operate, the subconscious.
But that doesn't mean I was improvising - I don't even know what that means. I don't want people to ever get confused when someone says, "Oh the record sounds really raw, really unproduced." It was a clear choice in production style, and it doesn't mean that it was easy to record or produce; it means that you have to do things differently. I came off of Eat Me, Drink Me with this fantasy, a Shakespearean ideal of romance, you know, this "If the world doesn't understand us, then let's die together" thing. Which, now, I think is cowardice. And you hear that going into the first track. The songs appear on the album in the order in which I sang them. "Devour" was the first one -- and it was the hardest one to get too.
It sounds like the period after you and Evan Rachel Wood broke up was really tough. What was your lowest point?
I sing about it on "Into the Fire." I say, "If you want to hit bottom, don't bother trying to take me with you." My lowest point was Christmas Day 2008, because I didn't speak to my family. My walls were covered in scrawlings of the lyrics and cocaine bags nailed to the wall. And I did have an experience where I was struggling to deal with being alone and being forsaken and being betrayed by putting your trust in one person, and making the mistake of that being the wrong person. And that's a mistake that everyone can relate to. I made the mistake of trying to, desperately, grasp on and save that and own it. And every time I called her that day -- I called 158 times -- I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands.
I look back and it was a really stupid thing to do. This was intentional, this was a scarification, and this was like a tattoo. I wanted to show her the pain she put me through. It was like, "I want you to physically see what you've done." It sounds made up but it's completely true and I don't give a shit if people believe it or not. I've got the scars to prove it. I didn't want people to ask me every time I did an interview, "Oh, is this record about your relationship with your ex-girlfriend?" But that damage is part of it, and the song "I Want to Kill You Like They Do in The Movies" is about my fantasies. I have fantasies every day about smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer.
Um, I don't think you can't wrap that up and put it under the tree.
You can wrap that up with Band-Aids. I can laugh about it now because it's a process I went through, and I need to have a sense of humor about it. That's the only way that you can be me. Everyone is so, "Marilyn Manson is so serious, so eloquent, so intelligent, because he managed to have a sentence that had more words in it than I could think of, and, you know, Bowling for Columbine." Whatever. That's a compliment and all, but the whole point of the name Marilyn Manson sums that up -- it's a contradiction, an odd pairing.
And of course, a couple weeks ago that eighth grader said, "Hail Marilyn Manson," then shot a teacher. It's surprising because on the first song on the record, "Arma-Goddamned-Motherfuckin-Geddon," I say, "Fuck the TV and the radio, I'm gonna take credit for the death toll." It's all I get blamed for. I don't get credit for anything else. So if I'm going to get blamed for it, I want credit for it. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'm not saying I don't agree with it. I'm not going to be some kind of PC, tree-hugger. I'm the last person that causes harm in the world, and if people are worried about what my music does, why isn't anyone saying, "Hey, shouldn't we worry about what he does?" Besides throwing used rubbers on the wall.
Obviously I'm dangerous enough to make songs that are so problematic. I had my phone tapped by the FBI during Columbine. I've had more death threats than I care to remember. It's a never-ending process where I sleep at night, sometimes, but I'm never kept up by a concern for my life's safety. I can't go to sleep at night if I didn't accomplish at least something. That's the one thing that keeps me up. It's not partying; I don't even know what that word means. Partying implies that you have a hat, and it was fun… with clowns.
Report by David Lowe-Bianco.
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| POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:01 am |
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flintazra
: ...Uh-huh. He's a little full of himself...And the cutting is weird. It's just Evan Rachel Wood.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 06:58 am / quote |
Lohnanmilitia
: Evan Rachel wood is awesome! But for manson. His new album is SO much better than eat me drink me. That was terrible. I like doom shit when its done good..but its just to ****ing emo most of the time. The Golden Age of Grotesque was his masterpiece which hell never top. Bout the high end of low is a good start for better stuff to come.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:22 am / quote |
grungeisdeaduk
: he's about as interesting as bage wallpaper.... yawnPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:25 am / quote |
the_messenger66
: Man, you gotta read the full version...
beginning:
Hey Marilyn. How are you doing?
It depends, are we going to make this a "shit on Manson" interview, or are we going to make it a good interview?
This is going to be the best interview ever.
Good.... I was going to email you a photograph I just took. It's of a new piece of modern art I created. Let's call this work my Jack-off Pollack, of sorts. I had two condoms -- alien things to me, I haven't seen them in 25 years -- and I threw them on the mirror, and they stuck, and they formed this piece of modern art. And I can't decide what to call it. I'm thinking about calling it "I Don't Want You to be Cursed With My Retarded Child," or "It's Not Just Love, It's a Lifestyle," because they were Lifestyle condoms.
Would the name be different if they were Magnum or Trojan condoms?
I suppose. I was just curious what I could do with a condom filled with my semen, other than the obvious damage that one could do.
POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 11:54 am / quote |
ItsOnlyGNR
: How does someone as hot as Evan Rachel Wood end up with Marilyn Manson anyway? lol. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:20 pm / quote |
griffo110
: he seems very egocentric and self centred he blames everyone else for the problems he faces in life and then takes it out on himself when he has no one around to take it out onPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:26 pm / quote |
silversoulcage
: griffo110 wrote:
he seems very egocentric and self centred he blames everyone else for the problems he faces in life and then takes it out on himself when he has no one around to take it out on |
Exactly. He's an elitist little kid, the worlds largest most conceited 8 year old. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:29 pm / quote |
eetfuk58
: silversoulcage wrote:
griffo110 wrote:
he seems very egocentric and self centred he blames everyone else for the problems he faces in life and then takes it out on himself when he has no one around to take it out on
Exactly. He's an elitist little kid, the worlds largest most conceited 8 year old. |
+1 my man.
nah, thats stupid what does +1 even really mean? how bout i just buy you a beer instead for that brilliant description of this ego-creep.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:34 pm / quote |
silversoulcage
: eetfuk58 wrote:
silversoulcage wrote:
griffo110 wrote:
he seems very egocentric and self centred he blames everyone else for the problems he faces in life and then takes it out on himself when he has no one around to take it out on
Exactly. He's an elitist little kid, the worlds largest most conceited 8 year old.
+1 my man.
nah, thats stupid what does +1 even really mean? how bout i just buy you a beer instead for that brilliant description of this ego-creep. |
haha. Gracias Senior. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:42 pm / quote |
ironmanben
: Marilyn Manson was going though a tough time guys!! Everything was falling apart for him. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:42 pm / quote |
\m/(-_-)\m/
: His career turned to crap when him and Reznor split ways. Portait of an American Family - Holy Wood will always be his best stuff.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:46 pm / quote |
decayingdave
: Lohnanmilitia wrote:
Evan Rachel wood is awesome! But for manson. His new album is SO much better than eat me drink me. That was terrible. I like doom shit when its done good..but its just to ****ing emo most of the time. The Golden Age of Grotesque was his masterpiece which hell never top. Bout the high end of low is a good start for better stuff to come. |
That's the lamest thing I've seen anyone say, EVER.
Manson was Manson when he made Antichrist Superstar, even though it wasn't really all his own effort (trent reznor certainly had a big hand in it) - Once Antichrist Superstar was done, he moved into worse and worse stages of emo-ish industrial self indulgent drivel.
He died in 1996...POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:46 pm / quote |
moonatblack
: Jesus Christ...A few years ago Manson was making fun of MCR because they were emo.Now he went from having long hair in the 90s and playing goof heavy metal to writing emo songs about his loved ones and cuts himself.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:48 pm / quote |
Slash181
: ironmanben wrote:
Marilyn Manson was going though a tough time guys!! Everything was falling apart for him. |
'was' falling apart.... hes not now explain why he performed like shit at download.... hes full of himself in such a way i couldnt even read this interview with enjoyment like i usually would. its disgusting that coverdale and other people in that generation are still at it giving an amazing performance out and here is a wannabe rebel and is failing hard to what should be half way through his career.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:49 pm / quote |
Macabre_Turtle
: My favorite part of the interview is that while somewhat praising Slayer, he gets Hanneman's name wrong. Haha.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 12:56 pm / quote |
Macabre_Turtle
: moonatblack wrote:
Jesus Christ...A few years ago Manson was making fun of MCR because they were emo.Now he went from having long hair in the 90s and playing goof heavy metal to writing emo songs about his loved ones and cuts himself. |
I don't recall him making fun of them for being emo. (I could be wrong.) I recall him saying they rip him off, but that was just a stupid attempt at him getting back in the spotlight.... he's had some pretty "emo" songs since as far back as Mechanical Animals anyway.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:03 pm / quote |
dean_reaper
: i dont personally know manson so im not one to say what he is. i know i enjoy his music and really thats all that matters. i loved all his albums up until eat me drink me so im exited about his new album with twiggy. they write great music togetherPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:13 pm / quote |
[travis]
: This guy doesn't need Rachel, he has half his ribs, or so, taken out so he can "have fun" with himself. He's a strange guy, never found interest in his music or crap, sorry, art.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:19 pm / quote |
GGM
: Hes always been full of himself. marilyn Manson is a hypocrite. He will complain about something, and then turn around and try to use it to get fame. For example the shoot shootings. He complains about those all the time yet he uses them to get more fame.
Other than that, marilyn manson has'nt had an album worth a crap since Holy Wood. He's running out of ideas. The lyrics on this new album sound like a depressed 13 yer old kid wrote the lyrics in less than a week. A 14 year old who really takes time with lyrics could really out do him with his new junk. And he has no room at all to diss My Chemical Romance for "Being emo" or "ripping" him off, becuase manson himself has ripped off more musicians than anyone in the book. Mechanical Animals was a rip off of Gary Numan's The Fury, and old David Bowie Ziggy Stardust. Along with his crappy make up, go find Gary Numan's Berserker and look at his makeup compared to Manson. RIP OFF.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:28 pm / quote |
metal15head
: called his girlfriend 158 times? then cut himself? wtfPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:31 pm / quote |
lukeylynch
: I respect Manson for his views given in Bowling For Columbine. He does a service to outcasts where they can look up to him and see it's possible to be a successful 'loser' and to be yourself without being assimilated.
However, I don't think much of his music.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote |
tom-the-lawn
: I think it's funny how people blame tragedies like someone shooting up a school on this guy, but at the same time I don't really like him..
| I didn't want people to ask me every time I did an interview, "Oh, is this record about your relationship with your ex-girlfriend?" But that damage is part of it, and the song "I Want to Kill You Like They Do in The Movies" is about my fantasies. I have fantasies every day about smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer. |
He's clearly ****ed in the head, not only does he have these thoughts he thinks that it would be a good idea to talk about them in an interview..POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:37 pm / quote |
Gibson_SG_uzr55
: I liked his old stuff
Eat Me, Drink Me sucks. hopefully his new one is better
But half the stuff he says in interviews is so deep, and the other half is like wtfPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 01:57 pm / quote |
davedoom
: I'll throw my Download two cents in the pot...
He was the worst act I have ever seen.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 02:25 pm / quote |
psychoskin473
: Marilyn Manson has finally imploded. Hurray!!!! He's become an example of what NOT to do. I liked the old days with MM when he was composed in interviews and kept all the shocking stuff for the record and performances. He use to be decent live. Now hes just a doped up cliche. High End of Low sucked even though i did like 2 songs out of the 15 on it still, an F is an F.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 02:40 pm / quote |
daniel coogan
: flintazra wrote:
...Uh-huh. He's a little full of himself...And the cutting is weird. It's just Evan Rachel Wood. |
i dont think its a fact hes full of himself, because he wouldve cared he had no friends, which by the looks of this interview he doesnt. he just seems pretty nihilistic which in all honesty i believe works in his music, it creates a good affect and good mood, thats what i personally think anywayPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:00 pm / quote |
pyritmann
: doesnt manson make fun of emos? called 158 times and cut yourself every time, because he wanted her to know how much pain she'd caused him. GROW UP!!! theres nothing wrong with being depressed after a break up, but hes acting like a 13 year old. seriously. i just can't stand this guy, hes so full of himself and is a total hypocrite. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:09 pm / quote |
AngryGoldfish
: I like him. He's honset. No bullshit. Just telling it how it is. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:24 pm / quote |
Wezz.
: I don't really find ANY of his mannerisms AMUSING, but I cannot get used to how much amusement peoples reaction to him is. He's one of the few people that will do ANYTHING because he WANTS to. And do I really agree with a life of such indulgence? No... but I do appreciate how he does it and takes glee from nay-sayers...
All he is - is shock value. He's REALLY good at it. And people hate him for it. And he likes being hated. It's a never ending cycle.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:38 pm / quote |
RunawayKaren
: It's hard for me to believe that I used to like his music when I was younger. Everything he does is for shock value, and even that's not working for him anymore.
We get it you're 40 year old atheist druggie and you like violence. The dead horse has been beaten.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:53 pm / quote |
m
: Checked.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 03:58 pm / quote |
Eternium
: \m/(-_ \m/ wrote:
His career turned to crap when him and Reznor split ways. Portait of an American Family - Holy Wood will always be his best stuff. |
100% truth.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 04:18 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: I love how half of you guys take him completely seriously. If you read his book, you'd realize how little you actually know is real & not real, & in the grey areas, embellished.
Manson is as much of a person as he is a psychologically scripted character.
The album wasn't a complete comeback, but it showed effort, & musically, was an upgrade from the past two albums, & the other member that made the band worth a damn, Twiggy, returned. The self-depreciation in the interview should give people optimism that he won't spend the next album in cathartic self-pity, & if his past actions are any indication, he'll get his shit together because it would be smart buissness choice (his movie is taking forever to come out, so I'm sure he wouldn't be ableto entirley retire anyway)
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im not mental
: i seriously think he's embodying the main character in the triptych (holy wood, mechanical animals, antichrist superstar).
at first he led a revolution against all the poppy stuff and conservative america (much like the holy wood character)
now he's a doped-up self-obsessed rock star (oMEga in mechanical animals)
we'll have to see if he becomes the character from antichrist superstar in the future.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:06 pm / quote |
HotDogs1
: I think he's just trying to get people to hate him again. but this time i think he's losing fans in the process either that or the drugs are starting to effect his brain.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:11 pm / quote |
Night_Warrior
: I cant express my HATE for him. He is truly evil and he craves attention, while the truth is, hes a pussy... why do good people (Dimebag) have to die, but bad people who influence death, homicide and suicide stay here producing evil?POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:31 pm / quote |
Swank
: Can´t believe all of these comments!!!!!
MM is the metal hero of all times!!!
Of course he has change... I mean people change we are human!!! ... other wise can you imagine to listen same notes in all of his records?? this album is justa a prove of the Good Music he can make... Thumbs up 4 u Marilyn Manson... once again THANKS FOR EXIST!!!!!POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:38 pm / quote |
Night_Warrior
: Metal hero? thats as funny as someone saying Fall Out Boy is the punk heroPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 05:41 pm / quote |
ReviseTheRadio
: i cant believe people actually listen to this piece of garbo
Try some Stone Roses instead or something else
Manson is the lowest of the lows in musicPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 06:22 pm / quote |
Unlimited
: Manson is the ****ing legend of shock rock, bitchesPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 06:38 pm / quote |
sandabs
: ItsOnlyGNR wrote:
How does someone as hot as Evan Rachel Wood end up with Marilyn Manson anyway? lol. |
Yeah, not to mention he was married to that other model. I have no clue...POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:09 pm / quote |
Beyond_Insanity
: Some of his music is good, but what most of you people don't get is that the whole crazy, unpredictable, doesn't give a flying ****, deal he's got (and has always had) is why people listen to him. The man... or whatever you want to call him... is not afraid to piss people off. I think thats amazing. So many bands today are so afraid of "oh my god im going to offend someone!" that they don't just come out and say what they really mean. This politically correct bullshit really muffs my ass. So more power to the people not afraid to not be "Politically Correct"...
POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:34 pm / quote |
alex-33
: He's weird and admits it, which is why he is so cool. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:45 pm / quote |
GaryS
: Night_Warrior wrote:
He just said he cut himself 158 times, dreams of smashing that chicks skull in. At least Dime was christian. And if Manson says he want to bash her skull in why dosent he? Cause hes a pussy and hes FAKE |
"At least Dime was a christian"
WHAT? Religion is the downfall of Humanity,you should'nt be proud to be religious,it is holding back our evolution as people.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:53 pm / quote |
Night_Warrior
: GaryS wrote:
Night_Warrior wrote:
He just said he cut himself 158 times, dreams of smashing that chicks skull in. At least Dime was christian. And if Manson says he want to bash her skull in why dosent he? Cause hes a pussy and hes FAKE
"At least Dime was a christian"
WHAT? Religion is the downfall of Humanity,you should'nt be proud to be religious,it is holding back our evolution as people. |
lol, evolutionPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 07:54 pm / quote |
HotDogs1
: Night_Warrior wrote:
He just said he cut himself 158 times, dreams of smashing that chicks skull in. At least Dime was christian. And if Manson says he want to bash her skull in why dosent he? Cause hes a pussy and hes FAKE |
i like marilyn manson's old stuff and im a christian, music and religion should be kept separate just like the separation of state and church. dimebag was a great guitarist but he never wrote a song i like. dimebag never really had a message except for "drink and smoke pot" if you really want to check out great bands look up "Death" and malevolent creation both bands blow pantera and marilyn manson away, they're way more inovative and are better songwritersPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 08:04 pm / quote |
HotDogs1
: GaryS wrote:
Night_Warrior wrote:
He just said he cut himself 158 times, dreams of smashing that chicks skull in. At least Dime was christian. And if Manson says he want to bash her skull in why dosent he? Cause hes a pussy and hes FAKE
"At least Dime was a christian"
WHAT? Religion is the downfall of Humanity,you should'nt be proud to be religious,it is holding back our evolution as people. |
no, religion itself isnt holding anything back, its the wars that start when people have intolerance for other religions. i believe we as humans should be allowed to follow any religion we please, as long as it doesn't physically harm anybody else. one thing i hate is that shi'ite muslims get offended at something stupid like a comic strip so they riot everywhere and threaten terrorism, thats wrong. ive seen people make jokes about christians and you dont see me holding up traffic, i just carry on and laugh if the joke is funny.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 08:14 pm / quote |
mhylands
: The full interview is awesome. I'm not sure if I really like the new album so much yet, but I definitely loved what he had to say.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 08:16 pm / quote |
thExcomunicated
: | no, religion itself isnt holding anything back, its the wars that start when people have intolerance for other religions. i believe we as humans should be allowed to follow any religion we please, as long as it doesn't physically harm anybody else. one thing i hate is that shi'ite muslims get offended at something stupid like a comic strip so they riot everywhere and threaten terrorism, thats wrong. ive seen people make jokes about christians and you dont see me holding up traffic, i just carry on and laugh if the joke is funny. |
amen to that!POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 08:34 pm / quote |
metal15head
: Night_Warrior wrote:
I cant express my HATE for him. He is truly evil and he craves attention, while the truth is, hes a pussy... why do good people (Dimebag) have to die, but bad people who influence death, homicide and suicide stay here producing evil? | I agreePOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 08:35 pm / quote |
Macabre_Turtle
: Night_Warrior wrote:
He just said he cut himself 158 times, dreams of smashing that chicks skull in. At least Dime was christian. And if Manson says he want to bash her skull in why dosent he? Cause hes a pussy and hes FAKE |
Oh. I forgot. Being Christian is what determines if you're a good person or not. *rolls eyes*
And he doesn't do it because there is such thing as a legal system, ass. There are plenty of people I would love to kill or at least cause harm to in general. Most of us have this. But, you know what? We don't. Not because doing such an act scares us. But, because we can go to jail.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Night_Warrior
: you dont seem to get the point though... hes fake!POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:27 pm / quote |
m
: Checked
Keep it civil, guys. POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:50 pm / quote |
HotDogs1
: Night_Warrior wrote:
you dont seem to get the point though... hes fake! |
yeah i agree he is fake but manson doesnt seem to think so and thats the problem. he's so caught up in the fame its just gone to his head plus he's clearly on drugs and talking out of his ass he used to sound smart in his interviews.POSTED: 06/25/2009 - 09:59 pm / quote |
jsurf06
: he'll never outdo portrait of an american family, no matter what anyone says on here, he's definitely not the same "artist" and it's unfortunatePOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 11:06 pm / quote |
landspeed24
: and yes look how much attention this interview got...
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rhoadsfan92
: AngryGoldfish wrote:
I like him. He's honset. No bullshit. Just telling it how it is. |
i completely agree, with the exception being you spelling of the word honest. cant agree with that XDPOSTED: 06/25/2009 - 11:25 pm / quote |
psychoskin473
: Night_Warrior wrote:
I cant express my HATE for him. He is truly evil and he craves attention, while the truth is, hes a pussy... why do good people (Dimebag) have to die, but bad people who influence death, homicide and suicide stay here producing evil? |
I dont want to get into a religious debate over whos more evil god or marilyn manson, but god's killed over 3 million people (according to the bible) and marilyn manson has been tied to murders through the media and some kid in his english class. Looks like god is a little more evil than manson in this case. I notice how you leave drugs out of your comparrison of dimebag and manson. They both have material about leading destructive lifestyles being christian is neither here nor there. I dont really understand what is so offensive about his music unless your looking to be offended. If you actually listened to the music instead of seeing the title antichrist superstar and immediately being in a shit-fit over it. Its just art get over it already. Christians are the most unoriginal people on the planet.POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:10 am / quote |
Macabre_Turtle
: Night_Warrior wrote:
you dont seem to get the point though... hes fake! |
That wasn't your initial point. I wouldn't have defended him on that basis. He knows that what he's doing is an act, and to some extent he says that. He dresses however he feels like it that day no matter what the reactions will be (though he obviously enjoys the attention) and tells kids, "look how fun it can be to be who you want?"POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:21 am / quote |
Llamas_Revenga
:
I dont want to get into a religious debate over whos more evil god or marilyn manson, but god's killed over 3 million people (according to the bible) and marilyn manson has been tied to murders through the media and some kid in his english class. Looks like god is a little more evil than manson in this case. I notice how you leave drugs out of your comparrison of dimebag and manson. They both have material about leading destructive lifestyles being christian is neither here nor there. I dont really understand what is so offensive about his music unless your looking to be offended. If you actually listened to the music instead of seeing the title antichrist superstar and immediately being in a shit-fit over it. Its just art get over it already. Christians are the most unoriginal people on the planet.[/quote]
spot on dude!POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:44 am / quote |
sneyob
: Marilyn Manson is irrelevant. He never effected me because I don't buy into the shock thing.POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 12:44 am / quote |
rrandumbb
: | he's about as interesting as bage wallpaper.... yawn |
What about a vanilla envelope being glued to that wall? If you're going to quote Stephen Colbert, do it right.POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:02 am / quote |
rrandumbb
: grungeisdeaduk is who I was quoting, it was the third comment posted here. Ironic...POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:04 am / quote |
corybott
: anyone who has commented about marilyn manson being emo is a complete jack*ss. everyone from zepplin to celine dion writes about heartbreak, it doesnt have anything to do with the genre.
as for the article, i wish he would take himself less seriously. he is incredibly high on himself, and his lyrics are actually very amateur. i love his new CDs, i think he keeps getting better (screw all that terrible power/anthem rock though) however i almost die every time i hear him throw out one of his grade 2 metaphors.
eloquent? i think not MMPOSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:21 am / quote |
corybott
: and who is the idiot that thinks dimebag is any closer to the christian image than manson? or that the word christian means he is a better person and has more right to live?
go diePOSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:26 am / quote |
rhcp14
: wtf??read the one on spin and on the second page it says smething about him cutting himself
look listen to this
"Marilyn Manson I sing about it on "Into the Fire." I say, "If you want to hit bottom, don't bother trying to take me with you." My lowest point was Christmas Day 2008, because I didn't speak to my family. My walls were covered in scrawlings of the lyrics and cocaine bags nailed to the wall. And I did have an experience where I was struggling to deal with being alone and being forsaken and being betrayed by putting your trust in one person, and making the mistake of that being the wrong person. And that's a mistake that everyone can relate to. I made the mistake of trying to, desperately, grasp on and save that and own it. And every time I called her that day -- I called 158 times -- I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands."
POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:39 am / quote |
Salmon86
: rrandumbb wrote:
he's about as interesting as bage wallpaper.... yawn
What about a vanilla envelope being glued to that wall? If you're going to quote Stephen Colbert, do it right. |
Manila envelope *ahem*POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 02:26 am / quote |
08L1V10N
: He's nothing more than a ****ing clown with really shitty nu metal songsPOSTED: 06/26/2009 - 05:32 am / quote |
queenslander47
: | And every time I called her that day -- I called 158 times -- I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands. |
wat a drama queen. i wonder why she ever left him?
get over urself manson
POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 06:11 am / quote |
j-walk
: Night_Warrior wrote:
Metal hero? thats as funny as someone saying Fall Out Boy is the punk hero | Yeah dude he is not or ever will be a metal hero. And what does thanks for exist mean, haha.POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 06:55 am / quote |
Shabalaba
: Usually on a article there are people saying, "I love him" and others saying "I hate him". Seems it's 90% of "Grow up Manson you pampered millionaire" POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 07:44 am / quote |
The_Raven
: im not mental wrote:
i seriously think he's embodying the main character in the triptych (holy wood, mechanical animals, antichrist superstar).
at first he led a revolution against all the poppy stuff and conservative america (much like the holy wood character)
now he's a doped-up self-obsessed rock star (oMEga in mechanical animals)
we'll have to see if he becomes the character from antichrist superstar in the future. |
:O Never thought of it that way, but it makes so much sense. Great thought man. That would explain a lot. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 07:48 am / quote |
Kenny_NJ
: griffo110 wrote:
he seems very egocentric and self centred he blames everyone else for the problems he faces in life and then takes it out on himself when he has no one around to take it out on |
That is why he is Satanist. POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 08:38 am / quote |
Swank
: j-walk wrote:
Night_Warrior wrote:
Metal hero? thats as funny as someone saying Fall Out Boy is the punk hero
Yeah dude he is not or ever will be a metal hero. And what does thanks for exist mean, haha. |
I mean: He not just save Metal Music when it was in it decadence time, but he save me...
Marilyn Manson Wordless Thanks!
Do you get it now??
POSTED: 06/26/2009 - 01:29 pm / quote |
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