Guns N' Roses: Three More Songs From Chinese Democracy

Universal Music Canada is giving fans a chance to hear three new tracks from Guns N' Roses long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy". Simply text "GNR" to 909090 to check out the music and to hear about the coolest contests. (Important: This listening party is available within Canada Only!)

For more information, go to this location.

The song "Better" of "Chinese Democracy" received its world premier (Monday, November 17) on a number of U.S. stations, including Q104.3 FM, which is currently streaming the track at this location.

"Chinese Democracy" will be released in the U.S. on November 23 exclusively through Best Buy. The 14-song set will be available on CD, vinyl, and as a download. While singer Axl Rose has remained silent, co-managers Irving Azoff and Andy Gould said in a statement, "The release of 'Chinese Democracy' marks a historic moment in rock n'roll. We're launching with a monumental campaign...that matches the groundbreaking sound of the album itself. Guns N' Roses fans have every reason to celebrate, for this is only the beginning."

One new song, "Shackler's Revenge", debuted on September 14 through the Rock Band 2 video game, while another, called "If The World", can be heard in the new film "Body Of Lies".

"Chinese Democracy" is the first album of new material from Guns N' Roses since 1991's "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II".

Thanks for the report to Blabbermouth.net.

Comments

[jefffelker40]

they released these to the public, so that means if i search on youtube for them the fbi won't come and get me or...?

[JAMSRS]

better is crap

[Alex101]

Cool... I'll check them out after school.

[shadowrocker05]

Better is a much more conventional rock song than Chinese Democracy but I don't think it packs the same punch. Better has proven to be much more popular and well received though. Can't wait for the album to come out on Sunday.

[angusfan16]

Five more days.

[spruyte]

heard a new song off the album on the radio this morning and i cant remember the name but id wasnt very good. it was--- Techno

[superjoint2112]

when i heard the shecklers revenge song i thought the album was going to suck but better is not that bad of a song.

[shadowrocker05]

I don't get why so many people don't like Shackler's Revenge. I think it is a great song, sure it is different from normal GNR but I like that. I like having them explore different sounds instead of pulling a Nickelback where every song sounds the same.

[TheKermal]

The songs so far haven't been very convincing.
Doesn't look like it's gonna that big of a rock revolution after all.

[aaciseric]

shadowrocker05 wrote:

I don't get why so many people don't like Shackler's Revenge. I think it is a great song, sure it is different from normal GNR but I like that. I like having them explore different sounds instead of pulling a Nickelback where every song sounds the same.

+1000

[dgme92]

Simply text "GNR" to 909090 to check out the music and to hear about the coolest contests. (Important: This listening party is available within Canada Only!)

Is it just me or does this read too much like an ad to be posted as news?
[quote]JAMSRS wrote:

better is crap[/quote
Sorry, but you're wrong. Please leave now, nobody wants flaming on these pages. IMO, Better is an awesome song.

[This1GoesTo11]

TheKermal wrote:

The songs so far haven't been very convincing.
Doesn't look like it's gonna that big of a rock revolution after all.

Give it a chance, huh? Let's not forget, "Welcome to the Jungle" was released to absolute zero response. It wasn't until a full year later that "Sweet Child O Mine" cracked the charts.

But don't take my word for it. David Fricke, one of rock's greatest writers, starts his review in this month's Rolling Stone like this:

"Let's get right to it: The first Guns n' Roses album of new, original songs since the first Bush administration is a great, audacious, unhinged and uncompromising hard-rock record. In other words, it sounds a lot like the Guns n' Roses you know. At times, it's the clenched-fist five that made 1987's perfect storm, Appetite for Destruction; more often, it's the one sprawled across the maxed-out CDs of 1991's Use Your Illusion I and II, but here compressed into a convulsive single disc of supershred guitars, orchestral fanfares, hip-hop electronics, metallic tabernacle choirs and Axl Rose's still-virile, rusted-siren singing."

Sound convincing to you?

[GN'R Dude]

What 3 songs are they offering to listen to?

[hardrocker64]

yea I remember I had burnt myself out on Welcome to the jungle before anyone knew about them. And now I am burnt out on GandR period. They are way overplayed on the radio today. Yukk! Their day has passed but with the lack of alot of rock out there today, they are gonna get the exposure. I may not even illegally download this one.

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

TheKermal wrote:

The songs so far haven't been very convincing.
Doesn't look like it's gonna that big of a rock revolution after all.


Give it a chance, huh? Let's not forget, "Welcome to the Jungle" was released to absolute zero response. It wasn't until a full year later that "Sweet Child O Mine" cracked the charts.

But don't take my word for it. David Fricke, one of rock's greatest writers, starts his review in this month's Rolling Stone like this:

"Let's get right to it: The first Guns n' Roses album of new, original songs since the first Bush administration is a great, audacious, unhinged and uncompromising hard-rock record. In other words, it sounds a lot like the Guns n' Roses you know. At times, it's the clenched-fist five that made 1987's perfect storm, Appetite for Destruction; more often, it's the one sprawled across the maxed-out CDs of 1991's Use Your Illusion I and II, but here compressed into a convulsive single disc of supershred guitars, orchestral fanfares, hip-hop electronics, metallic tabernacle choirs and Axl Rose's still-virile, rusted-siren singing."

Sound convincing to you?

[A8039077]

Better is a good tune :-D

[FriggenCarl]

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.

checked.

[GuilT]

I'm surprised, no dumbass comments about Dr. Pepper?

[This1GoesTo11]

FriggenCarl wrote:

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.

The only problem is the new band IS good. They may not be the original Guns, but you cannot say they're a bad band. Check out who is playing on Chinese Democracy. . .there's talent flying all over the place!

[superjoint2112]

I didn't dislike Shecklers revenge because its not guns and roses style i just dont like that shitty industrial sound

[goon316]

Very different, but there are some sweet sweeps in better and the solo towards the end is very tasty. It has some feeling and isn't the typical shred fest most solos are now. Its a shame they are calling this Guns and Roses because I honestly think it would be accepted better if it was called something else.

[B.do]

FriggenCarl wrote:

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.

3)duff 4)izzy 5)steven. damn you slash mangroupies

[ButThisGoesTo11]

goon316 wrote:

Very different, but there are some sweet sweeps in better and the solo towards the end is very tasty. It has some feeling and isn't the typical shred fest most solos are now. Its a shame they are calling this Guns and Roses because I honestly think it would be accepted better if it was called something else.

Everyones like "oh they should have named it another band name". For those people that are saying that....what is your main concern? That people wont realize that it's a different band, that the old members feelings will get hurt, that your mom won't let you buy the new "GNR" cd. I dont get why it even matters.

[chrisdazzo]

The whole freakin' thing, in lossless CD quality (proven), was leaked this morning, btw. Daaaaamn, after what, almost 20 years, it better be good.

Sucks to be the band right now. I bet they're pissed.

[MC_Rimes]

B.do wrote:

FriggenCarl wrote:

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.3)duff 4)izzy 5)steven. damn you slash mangroupies

Exactly... but I think that Duffy was more important than the rest :P

[Lil Macker]

I really like Better.

It's really good. Even if it couldn't be part of AFD, it's still really awesome.

[Haunt3dAng3l]

Ya know, I never used to like death metal. I used to believe that is was just senseless noise. But one day, I sat down and decided to listen to the music with out prejudice. Before that day many years ago, I just avoided the music. I never really gave it a chance. I discovered that it is good music though. People need to stop listening to tracks off of this album telling themselves "it sucks". You must give it a chance.

[MonsterOfRock]

I don't think I'll be missing Slash on this album. I'm sorry but that man hasn't blown my mind in recent years.

And to those that claim to be the old Gn'R fans, Slash only wrote his solos. Duff only played bass along the riffs. The guy that wrote some lyrics and made the killer riffs is Mr. Izzy Stradllin. Gn'Rs arrangements were entirely Axl and Izzy. And the band started to fall apart when Izzy Left, before the UYI Tour. Know the real story people.

[Engel22]

It leaked today, mexico forever

[cnr69]

From what i've heard off this album, some of the music
has a sort of 70's disco sound. The vocals sound great
at times, but are too high other times.
Does Axl still even have the musicians who recorded on
this in the band? I'd love to see the original lineup
reunite, but it would be hard to match anything from the past.

[DeathOn2Legs]

Engel22 wrote:

It leaked today, mexico forever

it was leaked into russia like a year ago and has since been availivle...

however i do like the new songs! they are not dead and with zero passion, but very alive and energetic! however not the whole album has this quality... god damm it, the guns haven't been there for 15 years, who the hell cares if they sound drifferent from the UUI II record?! and people should have gotten over the slash n duff story years ago, seriously...

[EEE_ELLL_OHH]

MonsterOfRock wrote:

I don't think I'll be missing Slash on this album. I'm sorry but that man hasn't blown my mind in recent years.

And to those that claim to be the old Gn'R fans, Slash only wrote his solos. Duff only played bass along the riffs. The guy that wrote some lyrics and made the killer riffs is Mr. Izzy Stradllin. Gn'Rs arrangements were entirely Axl and Izzy. And the band started to fall apart when Izzy Left, before the UYI Tour. Know the real story people.

Not true, Slash would have contriubted to things like riffs and arrangements too.

I'm so excited for this album it's going to be amazing. And it should be to everyone else aswel as long as they aren't waiting for a 20 year dated album (ie- a new AFD). People need to get used to the fact that musical prefernces, people and bands change!

[itmustbejesus]

i really don't get why people think guns is just nothing without slash didn't velvet revolver prove that he's not a song writer... i really hope this is successful and izzy comes back and writes a few songs with axl even if he doesn't want to tour

[HELLAWAITS88]

Oook...First, what the hell is with all of these so called musicians that are the only remaining members or one of the few remaing members trying to make new records without the other band members that were key elements in the magic that made their bands famous in the first place...? Yes, i'm talkin you sublime, kiss (but who gives a f*** about kiss), and especially AXL ROSE!!! You guys are just using the name of your fromerly famous bands in order to secure record sales. Chinese Democracy should be titles underneath AXL ROSE not GNR. Second, I've listened to "chinese democracy" more than once and "better" once and I must say that even without all of the years of production it flat out does not do justice to anything GNR did in the past...its not revolutionary, it's not groundbreaking, and it definetly does not live up to the hype...give up AXL.

[iknowlove]

jefffelker40 wrote:

they released these to the public, so that means if i search on youtube for them the fbi won't come and get me or...?

First its normally not FBI coming for u in that cases :P second no there wouldnt happend anything cause at youtube u havent (If u have u are very stopid).. Havent typed any personal things so the worst thing they could do to u is to close your youtube user but that would probally not happend either

[NorCalLos]

cnr69 wrote:

From what i've heard off this album, some of the music
has a sort of 70's disco sound. The vocals sound great
at times, but are too high other times.
Does Axl still even have the musicians who recorded on
this in the band? I'd love to see the original lineup
reunite, but it would be hard to match anything from the past.

The album has quite a few different musicians playing on it. Buckethead, who played a lot of what was used, is no longer involved. Last I remember "Bumblefoot" and Robin Fink were the guitarists, I believe. The review in Rolling Stone said the cd jacket has EXTENSIVE liner notes detailing who was involved on each song and what they contributed.

[goon316]

ButThisGoesTo11 wrote:

goon316 wrote:

Very different, but there are some sweet sweeps in better and the solo towards the end is very tasty. It has some feeling and isn't the typical shred fest most solos are now. Its a shame they are calling this Guns and Roses because I honestly think it would be accepted better if it was called something else.


Everyones like "oh they should have named it another band name". For those people that are saying that....what is your main concern? That people wont realize that it's a different band, that the old members feelings will get hurt, that your mom won't let you buy the new "GNR" cd. I dont get why it even matters.

I could really care less what they call it but if it was a different band name it wouldn't have to live up to AFD which is one of the greatest rock albums out there. As for your attempt at being funny, you really need to work on it because the mommy line was pathetic.

[Axl_Explosion]

See the thing that really kills me is how people say Axl sucks and he's nothing without Slash the rest of the original line-up, and it's just so blind and asanine that it makes me laugh. Name one other band in history that goes nearly 2 DECADES between putting a record out, and then at the slightest mention of it on a message board or something, it explodes!

And for those saying that the others are what made G'N'R what it was...look at Velvet Revolver? Velvet Revolver is essentially G'n'R minus Axl, and they are nowhere near what Guns was. But according to the arguments on here, that shouldn't be, because it wasn't Axl who did it, it was Duff and Slash and Izzy and Matt and Adler and everyone else besides Axl...yet like I said before, were someone to make a mention of Velvet Revolver, it would be met with, hopefully, a lukewarm group of replies and comments, but as soon as G'n'R is mentioned, everybody - good, bad, or indifferent, is screaming to make their voices heard.

So for those saying Axl sucks and it's not G'n'R and blah blah blah, well Velvet Revolver is pretty close to the original lineup, and they are dismissable, but Guns, which AXL is the only remaining member of, still gets the same kind of pull it did back in the 90's.

Look at things before you make stupid comments, people.

[Engel22]

Thing is, the final album leaked. not the demos from years back.

[randyaintdead82]

i dont get why are people not accepting the album just cuz axl wont change the name? why dont you actually listen to the music

[slash_rocks2005]

^true words.

i'll love the album, but i'll be listening to it as 'Axl Solo' as opposed to "Guns N' Roses." be good for just wanting to hear some great songwriting and singing. music part is good..but i'm not big on the industrial sound. but you have to respect the artists' decision to go in the direction HE wants to go in. far from selling out.

[Gee-Tar1]

I hope no one gets convinced by alot of the tards on this site who bash this album. From an unbiased review it's awesome.

[ChucklesMginty]

Except you can hear every track, and a few more on youtube.. And have been able to for months.

[shadowrocker05]

ChucklesMginty wrote:

Except you can hear every track, and a few more on youtube.. And have been able to for months.

Obviously you have not heard the final versions of the tracks because you would know they are very different from the versions that were available on YouTube over the past months.

[kill 'em pretty]

aaciseric wrote:

shadowrocker05 wrote:

I don't get why so many people don't like Shackler's Revenge. I think it is a great song, sure it is different from normal GNR but I like that. I like having them explore different sounds instead of pulling a Nickelback where every song sounds the same.

+1000

load of balls, nickelback are pretty diverse, their heavier stuff is great, though their commercial stuff tends to follow the same generic pattern admittedly.
NB: when i say heavier stuff, i mean heavier stuff, not just "how you remind me" bullcrap in comparison to photograph or whatever

[_Buxton_]

Just go to their site to find the songs

http://web.gunsnroses.com/splash.jsp

check

[JimMRocks]

JAMSRS wrote:

better is crap

I'll bet my free Dr. Pepper that YOUR A F***ING IDIOT.

[Typhoon700]

Axl_Explosion wrote:

See the thing that really kills me is how people say Axl sucks and he's nothing without Slash the rest of the original line-up, and it's just so blind and asanine that it makes me laugh. Name one other band in history that goes nearly 2 DECADES between putting a record out, and then at the slightest mention of it on a message board or something, it explodes!

And for those saying that the others are what made G'N'R what it was...look at Velvet Revolver? Velvet Revolver is essentially G'n'R minus Axl, and they are nowhere near what Guns was. But according to the arguments on here, that shouldn't be, because it wasn't Axl who did it, it was Duff and Slash and Izzy and Matt and Adler and everyone else besides Axl...yet like I said before, were someone to make a mention of Velvet Revolver, it would be met with, hopefully, a lukewarm group of replies and comments, but as soon as G'n'R is mentioned, everybody - good, bad, or indifferent, is screaming to make their voices heard.

So for those saying Axl sucks and it's not G'n'R and blah blah blah, well Velvet Revolver is pretty close to the original lineup, and they are dismissable, but Guns, which AXL is the only remaining member of, still gets the same kind of pull it did back in the 90's.

Look at things before you make stupid comments, people.

Very good point.

I'm saving my opinions until November 23.

[kill it]

i just listened to the latest track and it's fairly average with a cool pre chorus. i don't get the guitar fills or the middle solo, they don't match the song at all. sure it's technical but really lacks the feel of a player like slash who knows how to compliment a song with fills and solos.

[Chunga93]

I have 11 of the demos for Chinese Democracy and i will tell you right now. IT IS AMAZING.

I really don't understand how some people think Better is crap, i know everyone has their own opinion, but better is just so good. Packs a REAL HARD punch

[Metallicam]

I love Better. It's a really good song and different. I must say I am pleased with 2/3 songs so far. And two out of three ain't bad.

[kais0r]

I'll bet my free Dr. Pepper that YOUR A F***ING IDIOT.

Well he is 14 year old kiddy and an ex-metalcore band is one of his favorites, so...don't give a damn!
Chinese Democracy is such a great album, the 3 songs who are out now legally are not the best ones, that I can guarantee!
For me it is the best album of 2008...if not even of the last 3-5 years.

[theotherguy7145]

ok, i hate to sound as if i'm hating it for the sake of hating it, but i do hate the song "Better".
Chinese Democracy isn't too good either if i'm honest.

[Vauxite]

Chinese Democracy

..I have it

[bbbbrooks1]

HAHA FUCK YES!!!

jefffelker40 wrote:

they released these to the public, so that means if i search on youtube for them the fbi won't come and get me or...?

[itmustbejesus]

do you really think he needs the name guns n' roses to sell if for 14 years he was working on a solo project called chinese dmeocracy and everything the same went out this would still be the most talked about album even if all it said was axl rose

[bbbbrooks1]

ButThisGoesTo11 wrote:




Everyones like "oh they should have named it another band name". For those people that are saying that....what is your main concern? That people wont realize that it's a different band, that the old members feelings will get hurt, that your mom won't let you buy the new "GNR" cd. I dont get why it even matters.

That's true....and if u look back...Guns N' Roses comes back from when tracii guns and axl rose started it years ago....nobody cared when axl kept the name after tracii left...(even tho that was before appetite for destruction)

[ethan is hot]

FriggenCarl wrote:

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.

a guitarist doesn't make a badn, i like slash, yeah its not the same without slash, it wasn't the same witout adler,izzy, duff, or slash

[ethan is hot]

the fact that people wont buy this album JUST because slash isnt on it is stupid to me

[SlashIsGod091]

I've heard 9 leaks from this album over the pat few years, and they are all amazing. Better, There Was A Time and Street Of Dreams(formerly known as The Blues)are my favorites, but all the songs are absolutely amazing.
And to all you people complain about it not being the original Guns N' Roses, does that mean that you hate the Use Your Illusion albums? Because those aren't the original GN'R either...
Dumbasses...

[SlashIsGod091]

Also, I guarantee this album goes platinum the day it's released!

[libertineste808]

It makes laugh....

when the news came out that Myles Kennedy could be doing the led zep tour, everyone kicked up a fuss, saying it was plant that made led zep so if theres no plant its not led zep..

well GnR has the singer still, and people say its the band that made them...

I wish people would make their mind up! I s'pose it leads me to the question, what do you think defines a band? There are so many line up changes these days and looking at the point of view from some arguments on here, can many bands actually say they are the band they claim to be? I mean GnR,Led Zep, Queen, Metallica, Sepultura are just to name a few with major change of personnel, not just in the sense of having say the drummer and guitarist leave, but major people that have contributed to the band such as cliff burton, Max Cavalera...

[--ESTRANGED--]

spruyte wrote:

heard a new song off the album on the radio this morning and i cant remember the name but id wasnt very good. it was--- Techno

i bet you say that because of buckethead's parts. its not techno, its just his way of doing things, nubbing and use of a whammy. im wondering if this record would sound different if buckethead wasnt involved (im not saying thats a bad thing, both buckethead and the chinese democracy songs are amazing)

[That-Funny-Guy]

JAMSRS wrote:

better is crap

Better IS AWESOME

[Walternativo]

shadowrocker05 wrote:

I don't get why so many people don't like Shackler's Revenge. I think it is a great song, sure it is different from normal GNR but I like that. I like having them explore different sounds instead of pulling a Nickelback where every song sounds the same.

touché.

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

alriiiiight it's coming! and when this album comes out, i'll finally be 18! big day for me hehe.

oh and stay tuned for the follow up album, Cambodian Marxist Communism in 2025!!!

[DOA24]

Better is my favorite song that I have heard off the record and I have been listening to it on youtube for a long time now. I also love The Blues but I think it has a different name on the album now.

"This melody inside of me still searches for solution" I love that line in Better

[haz_uk]

poor.

[sunovagun]

I still can't believe this is happening. Better rocks!

[Joey Radical]

Pretty good, but it doesn't feel like Guns 'n Roses. I guess I'll put it this way: it's good, but it isn't Guns 'n Roses. But I'll buy it... since it's good anyway

[metallica4evr]

from what i heard...THIS SUCKS!!!

this isnt guns n' roses...it's axl rose some other guys

[IZZYs88]

this is sucks no way i am buying the album!

[StratPat]

I like better

[bubbyw]

you know.... I wasn't a huge fan of "Chinese Democracy" but it wasn't too bad. I'd give it a pass, but Better sucked..... seriously

[GoldSoundzUKNZ]

how different is the new better from the demo? because the demo sounded awful

[Utci]

Guns N Roses-Chinese Democracy-RETAIL-2008-ESC

Just seen that... is this leaked?

[Tubyboulin]

I like it same with Chinese Democracy. havent heard Shacklers Revenge yet.

[Pauldapro]

Wow.... 7 news articles from Guns N' Roses in less than 3 weeks. Excessive much? We don't need to hear about this dead band every single time they do something even mildly interesting. Yes, they are releasing a new album. So are a million other bands. Get over this already...

[wheelz]

Better Rocks!

[BlueZephyr]

i actually like better and chinese democracy. i might actually buy the album now.

[Dio10101]

I've listened to a few of the new recordings. They sound like something I'd write!! It's so cool. He's really putting the best of everything into this album. Just cuz Slash isn't in it doesn't mean its bad.

[Kiffa]

Every song I've heard so far is awesome, other than Shacklers Revenge, I don't know why, but that sing didn't click with me at all.

[Kiffa]

Song*

That's what I meant, not Sing.

[gunners fan]

Am I the only one that realises without Slash & Duff it just ain't the Gunners!?

Still alright but it sounds very generic

[Guitarfreak777]

gunners fan wrote:

Am I the only one that realises without Slash & Duff it just ain't the Gunners!?

Still alright but it sounds very generic

I agree, its alright, but I wouldn't go buy it anytime soon, or prolly at all.

[Tallman1984]

gunners fan wrote:

Am I the only one that realises without Slash & Duff it just ain't the Gunners!?

(Taking into account every single blog posting regarding Chinese Democracy in the year alone) Uh.. yeah, sure. You are the only one.

[sbinlb]

as much as i hate to say this better is gona be the only good song on the album

[Mattallica1]

im trying my best to like these new songs, but i just cant, just listened to better, couldnt stand it and closer the video after a few mins of listening i cant bare it

[Intersting]

I actually think Shackler's Revenge is one of the best songs on the album. I already have the whole thing, I can safely tell you is it good: yes, was it worth 15 years of recording and waiting: prolly not. You have to look at it as it's own album, if you go in thinking it's gonna be like Appetite or even use your illusion you will be in for a big surprise. A lot of the tracks are pretty much the same as the demos, just with more guitars and vocals layered over them. Catcher in the Rye sounds pretty awesome as well

[Intersting]

btw, that 2008-retail-esc release is junk, but I do know that there are some leaked versions going around as it's been available in Mexico since last week.

[Fatally Jon]

The music sounds pretty good, but Axl's vocals are pretty terrible.

[bjovi400]

I can't stand Shackler's Revenge. I just hate the electronic sound that Buckethead has to throw in it. The title track, is really good IMO, the only thing i will have against the whole album is if every song has those damn over...overdubbed vocals. It sounds like he tried to hit every octive lol

[slashfan414]

hell yeah!

[Axl_Tyler]

"Better" is the best song released, period, since "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing" by Aerosmith. Throwing that one out there.

[iloveashley]

better is pretty good. I don't know why I just cant get into shacklers revenge. Chinese Democracy was also ok.

[pearlJam_31490]

I CANT ****en wait for this album to come out! So i can get my FREE Dr.Pepper!

[ihavenoname93]

MonsterOfRock wrote:

I don't think I'll be missing Slash on this album. I'm sorry but that man hasn't blown my mind in recent years.

And to those that claim to be the old Gn'R fans, Slash only wrote his solos. Duff only played bass along the riffs. The guy that wrote some lyrics and made the killer riffs is Mr. Izzy Stradllin. Gn'Rs arrangements were entirely Axl and Izzy. And the band started to fall apart when Izzy Left, before the UYI Tour. Know the real story people.

possibly they wanted slash solos in the music? besides, every rhythym guitarist writes the riffs toopid

libertineste808 wrote:

It makes laugh....

when the news came out that Myles Kennedy could be doing the led zep tour, everyone kicked up a fuss, saying it was plant that made led zep so if theres no plant its not led zep..

well GnR has the singer still, and people say its the band that made them...

I wish people would make their mind up! I s'pose it leads me to the question, what do you think defines a band? There are so many line up changes these days and looking at the point of view from some arguments on here, can many bands actually say they are the band they claim to be? I mean GnR,Led Zep, Queen, Metallica, Sepultura are just to name a few with major change of personnel, not just in the sense of having say the drummer and guitarist leave, but major people that have contributed to the band such as cliff burton, Max Cavalera...

well when entire band leaves, and the singer gets a new band around them, he cant exactly call him and his new band the same thing as his old band. you way over-anylyzed this btw

[Jakeman123]

why only in Canada? No one cares About Canada

[ihavenoname93]

wow, the random shredding in 'better' really doesnt fit, and i guess this isnt bad, i just refuse to aknowledge it as gnr. if it was 'Axl Rose' or another band name, i would have bought this album. that is seriously all that stops me here

[Mezzo4te]

its a good album, bar one song its like hip hop r n b and another that is dated trip hop ish. i think his ballad stuff is good, heavy stuff is a bit generic. no attitude or balls in the heavy stuff.

[ntb812]

I have downloaded this whole cd, its not that good at all.

[Metallicam]

ihavenoname93 wrote:

MonsterOfRock wrote:

I don't think I'll be missing Slash on this album. I'm sorry but that man hasn't blown my mind in recent years.

And to those that claim to be the old Gn'R fans, Slash only wrote his solos. Duff only played bass along the riffs. The guy that wrote some lyrics and made the killer riffs is Mr. Izzy Stradllin. Gn'Rs arrangements were entirely Axl and Izzy. And the band started to fall apart when Izzy Left, before the UYI Tour. Know the real story people.

possibly they wanted slash solos in the music? besides, every rhythym guitarist writes the riffs toopid

libertineste808 wrote:

It makes laugh....

when the news came out that Myles Kennedy could be doing the led zep tour, everyone kicked up a fuss, saying it was plant that made led zep so if theres no plant its not led zep..

well GnR has the singer still, and people say its the band that made them...

I wish people would make their mind up! I s'pose it leads me to the question, what do you think defines a band? There are so many line up changes these days and looking at the point of view from some arguments on here, can many bands actually say they are the band they claim to be? I mean GnR,Led Zep, Queen, Metallica, Sepultura are just to name a few with major change of personnel, not just in the sense of having say the drummer and guitarist leave, but major people that have contributed to the band such as cliff burton, Max Cavalera...

well when entire band leaves, and the singer gets a new band around them, he cant exactly call him and his new band the same thing as his old band. you way over-anylyzed this btw

Yes, he can, and did. Suck it up, this is Guns N Roses, like them or not. The name has nothing to do with it, it SHOULD be about the music. If you're so damn petty to care about a name, then don't listen. Period.

[gldragon]

eh, im not too impressed

[Jk3y]

Heard the album leak (the final mixes)
it wasn't worth 13 years, but its still a damn good album (or at least better than anything velvet revolver did)

I'm pleasantly surprised, I really liked it
give it a chance, more than one listen, once you get rid of the prejudice you'll realize its genius

[Axl_Tyler]

Jk3y wrote:

I'm pleasantly surprised, I really liked it
give it a chance, more than one listen, once you get rid of the prejudice you'll realize its genius

+1

[littleleo88]

better is just axl whining about stuff - back to his old self then.

[slashersixx]

i just downloaded the final version of the album, its way better than most mainstream music comming out right now....but its a great Axl Rose cd, not Gunners.

[Ponchibego]

FriggenCarl wrote:

As a huge GNR fan I am not buying this album. I dont care what you think. The singer does NOT make the band. As far as I am concerned this is a new band with an aged singer. And I dont like this new band.

And for those saying, hold on, welcome to the jungle and sweet child never recieved great praise initially, while thats true, they had two important factors. 1) Connection as a band 2) Slash

Those are HUGE. And this band does not have it. SOrry. I'd rather buy Appetite for Destruction AGAIN.

I honestly have to say that Slash is a great guitarist but the person who wrote the majority of the music was Izzy and he doesn't receive damn near enough credit for what he did in that band. However I think their success was definitely because they made such a great group and all supplied amazing material.

[Silas S Thompso]

yea I remember I had burnt myself out on Welcome to the jungle before anyone knew about them. And now I am burnt out on GandR period. They are way overplayed on the radio today. Yukk! Their day has passed but with the lack of alot of rock out there today, they are gonna get the exposure. I may not even illegally download this one.


In my town before everyone cared about sweet child of mine I had heard all their songs and had gotten tired of it. Now the only songs people know are Welcome to the Jungle and Sweet Child. I hate Sweet Child cause it sounds nothing like their other songs.

[Fender6]

They will never be the same ever since Slash quit the band. I wish they'd go back to the way that they used to write music....good! I liked the classics like "Sweet Child" and Paradise City.

[Secondrate]

The album sounds ****ing fantastic!!

it's definatly going to be one of those albums that will take a little time to get into, cause everyone just has these insane expectations thus making people missout on these outstanding songs

[edgeyyz]

ok, it's too weird for the old guns 'n roses fans, i prefer velvet revolver over this stuff

[pyritmann]

yucky

[mnhockey99]

GuilT wrote:

I'm surprised, no dumbass comments about Dr. Pepper?

Where can I get my Dr. Pepper coupon?

[djnenm]

Axl_Tyler wrote:

Jk3y wrote:

I'm pleasantly surprised, I really liked it

+1
give it a chance, more than one listen, once you get rid of the prejudice you'll realize its genius


+1