But first, AOL is beyond pleased to give fans the first listen to the beat-driven "Wretches And Kings" with this exclusive premiere.
The song kicks off with an impassioned speech about breaking away from the machines that dictate life as we know it, before launching into a thunderous beat and Chester Bennington's signature vocals.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
yeah im a huge lp fan and even i hav to say this is them experimenting too much. their are parts of the song that r cool but the chorus especially throws me off. i think peopel will end up liking the new album tho once they get used to a new sound.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
I'm liking this song more than I should. The Jamaican sounding vocals are kinda throwing me off tho.
I agree. They should have gotten an actual Jamaican guy to do those vocals, maybe the dude from Skindred or something. I just can't take the song seriously every time Chester starts talking like that. The gang vocals going "Hey hey hey hey" are kind of odd too. Meh, at least this song isn't whiny.
I really don't care if a band sells out as long as they still make good music. Muse for example. They sold out but their music is still something i can listen to, this on the other hand is absolute shit. If i want to listen to techno or Jamaican style rapping i'll listen to someone who does it right.
I really like this tune there amazing i think its cool how they have changed there sound its still linkin park with chester vocals mikes raps and the guitrists have just used there guiter in diffrent ways
they where always a band that tried diffrent things remenber the remix of points of authirty ( i cant even spell it)
my point is they have done a good job they tottaly changed music help make a new genre successfull and now they doing what they do best
Bahahaha, interesting.. It's better than the last album for sure. I had erased these guys off the map. It's a good thing they have a decent DJ. Or these guys would be shit.. As any real musician can hear.
'...and Chester Bennington's signature vocals'
Id say the catalyst and this song are far from his signature vocals. He sounds uncomfortable in this territory, having to vocalise in more of a rap style in this and the catalyst due to the fact the songs are more about beat then melody where he specialises. This is better then the catalyst but i still dont like it, sounds lacking in emotion to me and the type of thing shinoda would do with a side project then LP
Beelzboss wrote:
goodbye Linkin Park from Hybrid Theory times.
Yeah..too bad, really.
I can already see the girls dance to this in the clubs and the cool guys standing by the side nodding their heads..goddamn..this is no good.
you know, there used to be a time when they had untouched guitars, as in they didn't have a mile of effects layered over them, and they would have mr. hahn throw in some effective electronic sounds. does anyone else miss that or is it just me?
I think they have to stop writing shit.
and not try to write heavy passionate music when they seem to be mainstream and happy and not having their own personal issues,
Linkin Park should quit
anyone else think this song seems like a big "**** you" to everyone who wants them to do the whole "hybrid theory/meteora revival" thing? I mean its got a pretty nu-metal vibe with their signature scratching (Hahn's back!), rapping and chesters rock vocals. But the speech and the lyrics (and the accents lol) seem to point in that direction. Maybe its just me..
I can't say Linkin Park is a terrible band for changing their sound. But honestly, their old stuff, for me, was their best stuff. It'd be nice to hear them play songs like that again.
Hmm its quite hard hitting, its more like hybrid theory only without the guitars and stuff, its a bit too rap/danceesque for me so probably wont buy the album
how can anyone say this is selling out? You have to willfully ignore the definition of selling out to say that stupidness. Linkin Park is a hugely successful band with a commercial sound. To start putting out songs that have a DIFFERENT sound, it is the complete opposite of selling out. I'll still be buying the album.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
for some reason, I think that i can see the final minute and a half being used for a bacardi/red stripe commercial. Its not necessarily a bad thing, more of a curiosity.
I hope this grows on me...but Mike's rapping is TERRIBLE, both from a lyrical and flow standpoint. I really want this album to be great...but between the Catalyst and this crap I really don't know.
After Meteora it's all going down and too Shinoda'ish. I really liked the sick dj-remixes from Reanimation, because they still had "something". But this is just flat.
you know, as much as I love the old linkin park, this is them too. they've left nu-metal and if they stayed there it would've been the same as selling out. Mike even said in an interview for MTM that Nu-metal can go **** itself. THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THE SAME STUFF FOREVER. let them grow and mature as a band... jeeze.
WAY better than Catalyst. I can at least consider this older-LP style but out of all those songs, this would be the worst. But sadly, I'm ok with that, only because it's hopeful for more songs like their old stuff on the new CD.
Am I the only one that notices that both of their last 2 album titles are very close to Iron Maiden songs? Minutes to Midnight, 2 Minutes to Midnight. A Thousand Suns, Brighter than a Thousand Suns. Seriously, after Minutes to Midnight, I was like WTF? But now I'm just dumbfounded that they would do this twice. The song is pretty weak though, what happened to all the cool guitar riffs from HT and Meteora. Linkin Park was a breakthrough in music when they came out, but good lord am I dissapointed by their recent music. Its a shame because they are very talented.
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
come on guys lets be honest, LP was always kind of experimental, hybrid theory was a different kind of music back at those days, meteora was also different cuz mike rapped more, minutes to midnight was also experimental cuz they were more mellow and soft (except for 2 or 3 songs). and the new album is also experimental, and yes its different but thats what LP is i think, experimental. and i like it, no doubt im going to buy the album.
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
After Meteora it's all going down and too Shinoda'ish. I really liked the sick dj-remixes from Reanimation, because they still had "something". But this is just flat.
dude so you think that minutes to midnight was to shinoda'ish?
minute to midnight was 80% chester and 20% mike.
to put this simple, i enjoyed (Y) it's got my approval, i think it's gonna be a good album, although a gest wouldn't have gone a miss tbh, i agree, benji from skindred would have been nice but he's helpin revoker do their album. very nu metalish sound, and to the NIN reference...WTF man? not needed here.
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
+100000
Absolutely right, this is a great song, the best I've heard from them since Meteora. It sounds an awful lot like something they would have recorded before HT
Definitely better than the catalyst with a decent beat. I got into this song thinking "Wow, this could be really good" then they started with the jamaican accent, and I facepalmed. This song is definitely a step in the right direction, but not as good as it needs to be
Is it just me, or does Chester sounds like he's singing in a different language? A little too choppy vocals for my liking.
It's definitely different man. I'm assuming it's an attempt at a reggae vocal delivery but there's just something disingenuous about it. The singer in The Script pulls it off well in a few songs but for some reason there's something lacking with Chester's.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
I'm liking the beats, but the Shinoda's rapping sucks, and Chester's suck too, but there is still much more tracks we haven't heard yet, i'm sure there will be at least 1 song that will save the album.
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
But I r iz a tru phan! Hahaha. You "real" fans amuse me.
Hip Hop album? Oh dear god. I'm listening to it now, and the part where the guys in the back go "ey! ey! Ey!" ruins the entire thing for me.
I bought Minutes to Midnight with great anticipation. Gave it a good listen, and originally didn't like it, but then it grew on me, and I love the album now. That being said, I will certainly not even consider picking up this album if the rest of the songs sound remotely like this one...
Reminds me of Combichrist a little bit. Interesting to hear something this different. I'm not sure what I think of their new album yet, I think I'll have to hear some more songs before I decide.
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
But I r iz a tru phan! Hahaha. You "real" fans amuse me.
How so? I've always been fully conscious of the band's drive to experiment with new sounds, even to the point where they formed side projects. With that in mind, I greatly respect them for not being afraid of trying new things, and don't expect them to produce another same-sounding album.
Bands change. Who gives a **** about roots? If you like it, listen to it. If you don't like it, listen to their old stuff or a different band. I'm not saying anything new. Roots. Selling out. Credibility. I think only the biggest posers care about these things.
I don't like this song. Although, I think Mike Shinoda is the only guy who can pull off white boy rap.
sounds like a bunch of people are hating LP just because they're the band its cool to hate now. i actually liked this song, but i hated their first single, whatever its called, and most of minutes to midnight.
not sure if i'll get the new album, but this song made me go from definitely not to maybe.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
Jesus Christ people, this sounds as old school as it gets, as old as Xero. Yet those who want HT and Meteora are STILL complaining.
Grow some balls and grow with the band if you're a real fan, because if you're a real fan then you know LP will always continue to stretch their boundaries.
This is alright, except for the Hey chants, way better than the Medal of Honor song, still, I hate electric drum beats, and the guitaist and bassist officially have no job.
I never thought I'd ever say this, because I love LP very much, but I seriously doubt I'll get this. The Catalyst was awful, and this was way, way worse.
This is not Linkin Park. This is not a progression from Minutes to Midnight. This is not even a revisitation of their "roots".
This is some dance techno bullshit. And what's with that "A Thousand Suns Listening Party/Laser Lights Show"? Yeah, that doesn't sound like a rave at all.
All Hope Is Gone.
Then again, these are only 2 of the tracks. But they are the 2 tracks that they chose to put out. Which scares me. The bullshittery in these songs hurts me.
It's completely fine if they want to go off and do what makes them happy, musically, but I hope that they don't forget their fanbase completely, and at least have a couple songs that everyone can like. Some LP signature sound songs, you know?
I've only heard two songs from this album, yet I already rate it over Minutes To Midnight. It's different, which is what I like to see in a band's new material.
there isnt anything for them to sell out on, hyrbrid theory was their highest selling album. they changed yea, but this new stuff sounds better than midnight, maybe less "typical LP" but more "extreme LP"
im an old school lp fan, (hybrid theory, meteora) after hearing catalyst i gave up on this album, but this songs given me some hope this album might be alright
I never thought I'd ever say this, because I love LP very much, but I seriously doubt I'll get this. The Catalyst was awful, and this was way, way worse.
This is not Linkin Park. This is not a progression from Minutes to Midnight. This is not even a revisitation of their "roots".
This is some dance techno bullshit. And what's with that "A Thousand Suns Listening Party/Laser Lights Show"? Yeah, that doesn't sound like a rave at all.
All Hope Is Gone.
Then again, these are only 2 of the tracks. But they are the 2 tracks that they chose to put out. Which scares me. The bullshittery in these songs hurts me.
It's completely fine if they want to go off and do what makes them happy, musically, but I hope that they don't forget their fanbase completely, and at least have a couple songs that everyone can like. Some LP signature sound songs, you know?
Damn i totally agree with you.. i thought the catalyst was bad, but this one sucks even more -.- . and yeah.. anyways lets just hope they decided to release the worst shit before the cd. and kept the best for the actual cd..
what happened to old LP? I was hoping for a more Hybrid Theory sound on this album. Like a lot of other people are saying, I miss the guitars, that dont have a bunch of effects. I was disappointed with The Catalyst, and now they have this. I hope i dont end up regretting ordering the album.
Ugh, clearly, this is not the Linkin Park I once loved. I hope this doesn't set the tone for the rest of the album. If it does, Linkin Park will have failed me.
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I don't think the band gives a damn what you guys think, they play music they do because they enjoy it. I'm sure you'd do the same if you could make a living from it.
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I don't think the band gives a damn what you guys think, they play music they do because they enjoy it. I'm sure you'd do the same if you could make a living from it.
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Lol. Reminds me of Public Enemy, mixed with Rage Against the Machine. WTF am i listening to? decent nonetheless. I HATE the Catylyst though. that one sucked.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
Not particularly, I don't see Nu-Metal anywhere anymore, safe to say it's not 2005 anymore and Nu-Metal is not a big commercial thing,
From what i've heard from the first single and Minutes To Midnight, both times they've played it "safe" and effectively sold out by making an album they know will be popular with todays major audience
I don't think their heart's in it anymore, Shinoda definately isn't in his prime, that's for damn sure,
A terrible idea for a band, to release their masterpieces first and then get shittier, in stains the originals and jades us to the awesomeness that made us love LP in the first place
Although, I haven't heard the song, so maybe it's vastly different, I listened to a chunk of the Catylyst, and it sounded like your standard poppy affair to me
I muchh prefer the Catalyst do Linkin Park even use their guitarist for more than 5 seconds anymore... Im sorry but even though im all for them going in new directions to find more sounds but this is honestly just terrible...
I was simply stating that I've lost all respect for them for turning to such a garbage band.
Then why not just say that instead of whining about their "selling out"? It's become such a nonsense cliché that is damn near meaningless. Plus it's so pretentious to say something like that and to throw on this air of feigned offense that they would stoop so low as to make music that fails to meet your unreachable standards.
God I hope you're not a fist-pumper.
Not a fist pumper, no worries.
strat0blaster wrote:
loganpwns wrote:
I can't even listen to Hybrid Theory anymore. LP sold out twice and I've lost all respect for them.
I can honestly say I wouldn't care if they returned to nu-metal anymore.
Yeah you're right. They should put out the same album every time to appease you instead of doing something different as artists.
Don't be arrogant or stupid. Stagnation is death for any artist.
I stopped caring about three years after Meteora. Yes, I used to be a hardcore LP fan. Don't worry, music world, I've expanded exponentially. I still don't know what drove me to try and listen to this...
For **** sake people, let Linkin Park make what music they want. I don't listen to them that much but atleast I respect them for experimenting with music.
linkin park aren't made for electronic experimentational shit.
Lol yes they are and always have been.
no they aren't they have the dj.
he scratches the song adds sound effects.
he doesnt put electronic music in the songs.
listen to the crappy catalyst i swear to god first time i heard the preview i thought it was going to turn hardstyle.
its like korn playing techno music.
its not right.
what happened to old LP?
It died. As it well should have.
And to anyone saying they should go back to their old style, YOU try regressing to the exact same mindset you had ten years ago. I know I can't.
lol yea dude. I'm a lot happier now and it's hard to write the kind of angry music I wrote back in high school.
they don't need to try hard though.
minutes to midnight wasn't that great.
but i did like given up and bleed it out.
they were kinda oldschool linkin park roots.
like we still haven't heard the new album yet so it could be mad. i just don't want guitar axed out or in for 5 seconds of a song.
if i wanted to listen to a techno cd i'd buy the ministry of sound cd's and listen to decent techno.
If you dont like it thats fine, but dont tell these guys what they should do, or what they arent supposed to do. And facepalm to all the ignorant people here claiming electronic music is not music but just sounds, you sound as stupid as 14 year old girls who call metal just Noise.
Most people on this site listen o alternative end obscure music, why the hell are these people ignorant about other music? Its kind of a paradox aint it.
Anyway, kinda liked the song, not gonna buy the album tho. I loved Linkin park when I was in my early teens, but I recently listened to Meteora again, and must conclude it really wasnt that great. I really support any band who tries to develop a new sound, atleast they are not playing it save!
If you dont like it thats fine, but dont tell these guys what they should do, or what they arent supposed to do. And facepalm to all the ignorant people here claiming electronic music is not music but just sounds, you sound as stupid as 14 year old girls who call metal just Noise.
Most people on this site listen o alternative end obscure music, why the hell are these people ignorant about other music? Its kind of a paradox aint it.
Anyway, kinda liked the song, not gonna buy the album tho. I loved Linkin park when I was in my early teens, but I recently listened to Meteora again, and must conclude it really wasnt that great. I really support any band who tries to develop a new sound, atleast they are not playing it save!
electronic music takes just as much skill and knowledge to do as metal. As I have worked with both and can honestly say that. No, ur not doing solos with electronic stuff but I feel solos are just a way to show off and aren't really needed in the song.
Allright.. Chesters vocals are kinda screwed..
like he's some 2nd rate reggea singer trying to be a rock god or whatever..
Like the rap stuff from mike though but then again if i want that i can just listen to a fort minor record..
Overall it ain't a bad song if you compare it to the other crap the music world brings us nowadays which is overrun by those emo-*****!..
Overal a good attempt..Ok Song..done before.. i'll rate it at a 7..tops!
i like it. i liked the catalyst, too. glad to see Linkin Park doing something fun and interesting.
The_Czar wrote:
''blabla how low can you go'' that's a total Public Enemy's Bring the Noise rip-off
it's five rapped words. it's not like he stole half of the song or anything. you want them to go back to their ROOTS? Whiny nu-metal? ...why?
whiny nu-metal. hybrid theory and meteora are the only good albums by linkin park. this is just ****ed up. they are just like conforming to all the new sounds. stupid. this is just weird.
I think its an okay song except for the "hey hey hey" but other than that its alright and much better than "the catalyst". also someone mentioned before that it is popular to hat LP today, it has always been cool to hate LP! a lot of ppl have looked down on me for listening to lp in these 10 years of my life.
FUCK YEAH.
I love it.
Bring back Mike's rapping and the beat is badass.
I was expecting another album full of What I've Done songs but if it's anything like this then I can't wait. xD
lol band is ****ing dead
I d rather listen to a bat hitting a bat.
it's not that they have sold out, it's just that they are out of ideas, and they lost how they sticked well to their original itinerary. ****ers, only if they weren't so many and wouldn't be the sugar-coat everyone is licking
Now... I'm all for music experimentation... But we gotta draw a line somewhere.
That's the most unmusician-like thing I've ever heard. If a band chooses to experiment and try new things to expand their sound, why should the set limits? What I love about LP is that they don't write songs for their fans, or for anyone, but themselves. I'd rather them bring new ideas to the table than stick with the thing that worked before, because I guarantee you that if they had gone that route people would be complaining today about how old and dead their sound is.
I'm sick of it, when a band stays the same, they're boring. When a band changes, their sell-outs. Their new sound is ANYTHING but the sound of a sell-out band.
Note that this wasn't all directed at you CSguitarvocal, but I decided to start ranting once I said what I was planning on saying to you. My bad
This definitely better than The Catalyst, actually kinda rockin'. I'm kinda disappointed though in the near complete lack of guitars. LP's guitarwork was never very complicated, but it was characteristic. I would mind some riff on the new album. Maybe the songs will be more guitar driven live.
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
i love this linkin park.. their definitely putting there balls out there with this experimenting. personally i would have been disappointed in another meteora or hybrid theory
even though it's not a very pretty song I think it sounds like Meteora sort of mixing or something between Hit the floor and Nobody's listening, just more active ...and jamaican
but I think i might like the rest of the album
Isn't that speech at the beginning from 'Timelessness' by Fear Factory?
i didn't realize that a first, but yes, it is the same speech.
It wouldn't surprise me if Fear Factory was an influence to Linkin Park. They were doing the whole electronic beats mixed with metal thing before LP was.
I don't really like that song cause of that much of hip hop stuff. I didn't like the catalys too at first. After a few times of listening i liked the catalyst.
BUT: I'm really happy about what they are doing. They go back to their harder style. Away from that pop-ish softy Bono stuff. Wretches and Kings remind me to Hybrid Theory.. if it would have some lesser hip hop beats and some more rock stuff it would sound like hybrid theory songs! I'm really exited for the album.. there is really a chance, that they left this minutes to midnight crap back and got back to theyre harder and rougher style
People are so narrow minded here. If you don't see the progression in their music, than sit back and learn! And please don't try to pull a genre on their music, if you are a prime metal fan, than you should not listen to their new album, I'm sure you won't like it, and I don't want more *******s complaining about them.
you guys are jokes like this song is sick im glad they're changing who wants to hear the same shit over and over? thats what makes them better than any other band
Better than The Catalyst but still could be better. Since MtM it seems that they are always missing something in every song, may it be Chester screaming or Mike rapping or Brad playing heavy on the guitar or Hahn scratching something, every song is like "incomplete" and could have been much better, I can see them like "ok, who's not gonna be in the next song??" I hope the rest of the album sounds better.
Chester's vocals are waisted yet again on this song. R.I.P. LP I will miss the music that the REAL fans fell in love with. We didn't fall in love with this style of music, we fell in love with what you started with. Do us all a favor and release something like this under a different name and not LP. If you want your true fans back then bring back your old sound, the sound we respected you for in the very beginning.
I'm pretty sure I liked this better when it was by Rage Against the Machine...
Ha, can't believe no one said this before you did man. First time I heard it I thought I had another tab open with RATM playing. I like the song though. It's not amazing or anything but it's a decent track.
Better than the Catalyst, that goes without saying though. Not digging the new Linkin Park. The fans saying Linking Park is dead will continue to purchase albums and attend concerts anyways. It's their music, they might as well enjoy playing it on tours, correct? Fans will be lost, fans will be gained, but I have a feeling it will all even out in the end. Good for them.
As a musician, I say screw the critics. Critics are critics because they don't know even understand the music or how it evolves with you. If you only like Hybrid Theory, then listen to that album and stfu.
well if these 2 singles give ne kinda foreshadowing for the record as a whole then a whole new sound for Linkin Park is totally true but im not a fan of where they are taking the band. i might buy the record but if its gunna be a hip-hop record with some gtrs in it then this is gunna be the worst LP record ever made
Chester's vocals are waisted yet again on this song. R.I.P. LP I will miss the music that the REAL fans fell in love with. We didn't fall in love with this style of music, we fell in love with what you started with. Do us all a favor and release something like this under a different name and not LP. If you want your true fans back then bring back your old sound, the sound we respected you for in the very beginning.
Hm, the name of this website is "ultimate-guitar.com" right? That would be "GUITAR"? As in something that does not exist in this song except to drive a dance beat. This is not rock music. This is not what I expect to hear from a band as accomplished as Linkin Park. Sure, keep making yourself interesting as a band but do not throw away your roots and try to call it evolving. I accepted Minutes to Midnight because it was still legitimate music, people playing music instruments and not just electronic beats. They lost a long time fan, not that they care.
Their titles are just getting more depressing and almost emo. I loved their old stuff, but there recent song that just came out sounds very techno-ish.
Last thing I enjoyed of Linkin park was Meteora, but since then.... they have been poo but.... I after giving it s listen.... I really like this one! strange. I'd like to think that music once done is done, no point in repeating it, so kudos to LP.
I mean look at papa roach, same songs diffrent lyrics, and where are they now? I think LP have picked a controversial but potentially great path!
You know. I like this. But this is pretty Fort-Minor ish. I hate it when bands let side projects take over their normal bands (or leak a lot of influence. Im looking at you Stonesour and Slipknot).
Another album, another sell-out... I just lost all respect I had for LP, I know it's good to experiment, but this is just sad...
their experimenting and selling out at the same time? If they were sellouts they would just make another hybrid theory, get a clue in life please before trying to criticize people trying new things
LP used to be one of my favourite bands, then they made Minutes to Midnight aka "An attempt to fail as bad as St Anger". But i thank them, because it made me hate them and start listening to other bands, way better bands (Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Children of Bodom, Slipknot, etc.) This song sounds like shit, everything they have made after Meteora is shit (except that one song that was called "QWERTY" idk if they changed the title but that one was pretty nice), so bottom line is, they've become shit.
There's no argument about Slayer and Slipknot being better musicians than Linkin Park. I love Slayer and I hate Slipknot, but both of those bands are Mozart and Bach compared to Linkin Park. Give me a break. That's just ridiculous.
slayer knows one scale in one key, cant jam and takes such an original stance on their god hating, has never tried to evolve or do anything creative in there 20 whatever year awful career.. slipknot it took 9 people to make that garbage.
I will NOT comment how Linkin Park sucks or have sold out.Almost everyone here is doing that and plus truth is,they’re out there doing what they love and have a made a career out of it.So all respect to them.I love Hybrid Theory and never really paid attention to their new stuff(it wasn’t as good,personal opinion)But this new song here sounds promising.Not bad at all.But not Hybrid Theory.Its like a song that you can play in the background when you’re drinking with buddies.Good enough..
I disagree that this is selling out, it's the exact opposite if anything. For a band as commecially successful as Linkin Park to do something this radically different from what they've done in the past simply because it's what they want to do musically is pretty gutsy. They could have just churned out "another" LP album, but chose to do this, regardless of whether or not you like it, you've got to applaud them for it...
very well said i hate it too but i was impressed it they moved away from m2m i never really liked these guys after their first album anyway
you know, there used to be a time when they had untouched guitars, as in they didn't have a mile of effects layered over them, and they would have mr. hahn throw in some effective electronic sounds. does anyone else miss that or is it just me?
I honestly would never have guessed that this was Linkin Park. I barely Even recognized Chester's voice in the chorus. And there's no way that was Mike in the verse. This song is pretty lame and disappointing.
tbh .. this does not sound like linkin park at all.
what happened to the guitar riffs and catchy choruses from minutes to midnight and their older stuff.i listened to both songs and i absolutley hate the way they have gone and turned to crappy rap and dancy stuff just to get new fans. this will be the first LP album i will most probably despise .. ill defo check it out just to see if they have some *guitar oriented* songs .. but if not ... ill just delete it off my computer .
They should have stopped writing music before minutes to midnight (liked that album though, but it was to different). They would still be hero's... Chester would have his band, Mike would have Fort Minor... Everybody would be happy... Now LP is just a silly money-orientated pissband
there are no riffs anymore =/
no screaming
sounds flat and emotionless
its repetitive
i honestly love their old stuff, ive been listening to them since i was 7 and im 17 now
i love hybrid, reanimation, and meteora
but minutes and this new album are sadly arent them anymore
what happened to the band that got me into hard rock??
this is sadly going to be the first album i will NOT be getting from them
id rather spend my money on something worth my time and ears
I've used this site for a long time and this is the only time i've felt the need to comment. This notion of a band selling out because a band has gone out to do something different is utter rubbish. The argument holds no ground whatsoever! Im going to use Dragonforce as an example (not a band i particularly like). People say all there songs sound the same and that they need to do something different. So if they did does that mean they are selling out?? I'm pretty sure if they did they would be slated too! If Linkin Park did release 3 more albums the same as the 1st everyone would be moaning too 'ooo this shit is the same old stuff we want something new'.....bring out something different 'omg this band totally sold out, I want the old band back! I want, I want, I want, I want, wah wah wah wah wah!' !! To be honest though its there band and they can do what they wish with it, I'm sure everyone in there position would to. It's not like you would turn a promotion down at work for more money because you feel as its selling out! At the end of the day they are making a living doing what they love, so who can blame them. If you dont like the music don't buy the record or don't listen.
Holy Crap... that Intro was the SAME EXACT one Fear Factory used in the song Timelessness on the Obsolete album... feels like they COMPLETELY ripped off Fear Factory on the beginning...
The song kicks off with an impassioned speech about breaking away from the machines that dictate life as we know it, before launching into a thunderous beat and Chester Bennington's signature vocals.
Ummmm.... yeah.... the song kicks off with Mike Shinoda singing... not Chester... he's in the chorus.
people always complain about change. people always complain about not changing. people always complain. about everything. thats just how it is. negativity gets attention.
that said. this song is a breath of fresh air after m2m. i like most genres of music so i still liked m2m it just wasnt LP. this is experimental but you can hear the real LP in it
though dont take my comment as saying this is the old lp again. its not. and it never will be. the old lp had angry and depressing lyrics tied with amazing music that seemlessly mixed fast descriptive rap with full force screams. thats something that nobody could keep going.
but you can hear in this that linkin park is moving closer to the golden sounds they released once upon a time
Holy Crap... that Intro was the SAME EXACT one Fear Factory used in the song Timelessness on the Obsolete album... feels like they COMPLETELY ripped off Fear Factory on the beginning...
Again dude. Fear Factroy was probably an influence on their music because FF was doin the whole electronic beats mixed with metal before LP was
though dont take my comment as saying this is the old lp again. its not. and it never will be. the old lp had angry and depressing lyrics tied with amazing music that seemlessly mixed fast descriptive rap with full force screams. thats something that nobody could keep going.
but you can hear in this that linkin park is moving closer to the golden sounds they released once upon a time
I like the beat/music too because of that. Raps are oké, but the chorus (wannabe jamaican sound) turned me off big time! Which is too bad, because other then that it's a pretty solid (newLP song.
Holy Crap... that Intro was the SAME EXACT one Fear Factory used in the song Timelessness on the Obsolete album... feels like they COMPLETELY ripped off Fear Factory on the beginning...
It's ripped from famous "Bodies upon the gears" speech by Mario Savio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Savio
Can't wait for new album, even I'm not a fan of that band.
this song isn't actually too bad people. It's at least better than the catalyst. I agree with most people, that it is sad that they aren't going back to meteora and hybridtheory times, but this song, alnog with blackout, are actually fairly close to those "golden years"
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