AFI: Update On Next Album

AFI have posted an update on some of their future plans, as well as the status of their follow up to Decemberunderground.

Guitarist Jade Puget explained:

"This is always my favorite time of the whole process because you don't really know what the next album is going to sound like. Well, actually, Davey and I spent the last 3 days locked in a hotel room writing and we already have 4 new songs.I have tons of material written so I'm raring to go.

"As you probably already know, we're putting out an EP soon too, of unreleased songs from the last 2 albums. We're working on the artwork for that as we speak. So that's about it for now, we'll be hard at work on the new album, any questions?"

Credits for the info to PunkNews.org.

Comments

[Angelic_Demon]

I wonder how long it will take for the album to be done. Can't wait for the EP, although Carcinogen Crush was only so-so.

[Comeback Kiddd]

so is the unreleased songs from the past 2 albums going to be like a B-side and rarities cd?

[max_johnithan]

[quoteComeback Kiddd :
so is the unreleased songs from the past 2 albums going to be like a B-side and rarities cd?[/quote]
basically, its all or most of the recorded tracks from those sessions

[MaxLees666]

Oh dear I'm not very fond of albums made of unreleased songs from past albums. Rosenrot by Rammstein is a perfect example of how it can turn out less than perfect.

[Change_In_Story]

Nice!!! I'm psyched about the next album. I kinda wish that AFI would do an acoustic album of their songs. I love Jade's acoustic playing in endlessly she said and Ziggy Stardust cover.Oh well, one can only wish.....

[Slaytanic1986]

The EP had better sound like All Hallows eve...

[Bananapatata]

MaxLees666 :
Oh dear I'm not very fond of albums made of unreleased songs from past albums. Rosenrot by Rammstein is a perfect example of how it can turn out less than perfect.

And System of a Down's "Steal This Album" is a perfect example of how it can be done right.

[SmileOfHavok]

AFI rock pretty well live.

[sowhat360]

now AFI is a major sellout band....first few albums were awesome...last few albums were way overproduced and majorly softened up.....i think they're more concerned about their haircuts and makeup now...it's too bad cause they used to be good

[eltetilla]

afi stills rocks

[Bananapatata]

apparently if your music sounds good and you happen to make some softer sounds you're selling out...
?!

[CrimsonNJ]

Softer sounds. They started incorporating that dance and techno crap into their sound. What happened to the EBHC band known as AFI? When did Davey turn into a woman?

[AerialOverdrive]

I wonder how longer it will take for them to finish the new cd if they wrote 4 songs in 3 days.....
.....maybe next week, jk jk

[/Dragon|Force\]

can't wait for EP. hopefully it will have more unreleased tracks from Sing the Sorrow than Decemberunderground. STS is waaaaay better

[radioplay]

thanks for telling me AFI still makes music,UG

but seriously i love older AFI with a passion, and newer AFI is ok in my mind so this might be good.

[NightEmbers]

these guys really never take a break, the whole decemberunderground then straight to blaqk audio and now another... Im afraid that after this next LP we might not see them for awhile, pull a SOAD HI Aye Tis

[MetalBassist93]

imo, their old material was a lot better than Decemberunderground, such as The Art of Drowning, which was probably their best album

[PerfectChaos337]

DU and Blaqk Audio ****in' sucked,everything else was great though.
Carcinogen Crush sounds okay...The EP might be somewhat good,but I doubt it,and the album probably wont beo ut until 2010,and when they tour they'll probably only play in california,and never NY.I've lost all faith in AFI.

[Godsmack311]

Davey and I spent the last 3 days locked in a hotel room

of course you did haha. hope its more like TAOD or STS. decemberunderground was garbage.

Bananapatata wrote:
And System of a Down's "Steal This Album" is a perfect example of how it can be done right.

Steal This Album is where SOAD officially started to suck

[Pretty_Much]

(Shivers) their lead singer looks like a chick.

[Gibson_SG_uzr55]

I hope this album sounds less like DECEMBERUNDERGROUND. It was a good album, but goddamn, don't let Blaqk Audio leak into your work, AFI, cause you guys aren't Blaqk Audio. And all those techno songs on the last album were dissapointing.

[the1]

Mmmm, I love STS, and I need to pick up their earlier stuff. Jade is an interesting guitarist imo

[skull78]

[quoteCrimsonNJ:]When did Davey turn into a woman?[/quote]

it was a gradual thing. couldnt you see it in the video clip for 'he who laughs last'?

[quotesowhat360:]now AFI is a major sellout band....first few albums were awesome...last few albums were way overproduced and majorly softened up.....i think they're more concerned about their haircuts and makeup now...it's too bad cause they used to be good[/quote]

i totally agree with that statement. well davey always used to care about his hair, but now he is even more queer than he was before.

[quoteGodsmack311:]'Davey and I spent the last 3 days locked in a hotel room'
of course you did haha.[/quote]


lol XD

[tbarrettl]

Gibson_SG_uzr55 wrote:

I hope this album sounds less like DECEMBERUNDERGROUND. It was a good album, but goddamn, don't let Blaqk Audio leak into your work, AFI, cause you guys aren't Blaqk Audio. And all those techno songs on the last album were dissapointing.

I agree, Though AFI still for me has retained a spot of one of my faves though the change of sound is just a part of developing as a band.

[Jau_Peacecraft]

First off, Decemberunderground almost sounded like a visual-kei album from japan, not a good thing at all when you're talking about quality music.

The people who thought Decemberunderground was good deserve to be drove out into a pasture and shot. AFI's last album was Sing The Sorrow, as far as I'm concerned. When they stop pretending they can make a shitty tehcno album and shove it down people's throats, all the whole trying to convince people it's only "part of their evolution", then maybe they'll win some respectable fans back.

[alucardmik]

MaxLees666 wrote:

Oh dear I'm not very fond of albums made of unreleased songs from past albums. Rosenrot by Rammstein is a perfect example of how it can turn out less than perfect.

i know what you mean, but i liked Rosenrot, i hope the new afi album is more like the older stuff than the newer, though i cant see that happening.

[HavokStrife]

Is this actually gunna happen? Cuz, as usual for UG news, I read this somewhere else months already. But, thing is, they just released their live show they had on DVD, on CD on tuesday. And AFI's just never been the type to put out albums right on top of each other, like this would apparently be.

Either way, it'll probably suck. It brings me down so much how bad my favorite band sucks now.

[future_rock_god]

i really don't see how the boys are sellouts seeing as they've changed with every album/ep they've ever released, they're just ever evolving is all. some of us love it all coz we're a bit a weird and love our techno too :P but others just like some of us only like bits and pieces which is all good too. as long as you enjoy!
and i have to say guys, its a bit pathetic saying someone sux coz they look feminine. it should make no difference what they look like at all.

cant wait for B-Sides. Synesthia kicks ass

[Jau_Peacecraft]

it should make no difference what they look like at all.

I'm sure this logic worked well back in the 60's.
Thank you for saving us from humanity.

It's not pathetic at all; what IS pathetic is to see the same band who made Black Sails In The Sunset & Sing The Sorrow suddenly do a 180 by using co-opted pop rhythms with shitty techno and oddly indifferent lyrics, which, if you were to say it was "evolving" into, I would at best say an evolution towards laziness. Then you have to see new "fans" coming , buying the same lazy effort, pointing into (somehow) sales, which I suppose those all involved with marketing the band (as well as the band themselves) would think is all hunky dory.

This is the problem with selling bands as products: when they start sucking, people use something else. If they don't, it's because of some stupid marketing game by the record companies who make you think that a band like AFI has some type of monopoly (therefore, the only provider of a certain sound) , which is reinforced by whatever good albums the band has made in the past. But then again, only suckers fall for this, so whatever. Of course, the marketers realize this and just smile, knowing they are replacing fans of an older sound from better albums, with idiots who continually shark for the same shitty sounds that somehow keep the RIAA juggernaut aflot. Either way, consumers of the RIAA get continually ****ed in the ass, and seeing this band de-evolve from where they used to be reminds me more and more of that fact. Then again, the band could've just made a wholly retarded choice in choosing from a shitload of songs (I read before the album it was 60, and judging how RHCP did a similar thing with Stadium Arcadium, could understand the risks) and I could be over analyzing it. But hey, it never hurts to think ;D.

Not every album is a hit, and not every fan is dimwit. If fans don't speak out on how shitty (i.e. critical, especially when they are faced with a blind opposition who just "lurves their nu song on the radio, even tho their friend sed it SUX LOLLOL!!" ) an album is, how can the band possibly learn to truly evolve?

Of course, the fans do not own a band, at least, not in the old framework of selling music as a product, but really, it's only a matter of time when more and more bands will have to rely on support from their fans if they are going to go non-mainstream with their distribution methods. I suppose that's when band will really give a shit about 75% of their fans not liking their newest album, some even going as far as to not financially chip in to support them.

so yea another pointless post by me, whoppity doo da :p.

[BennyStruggle]

^^+2401

I saw AFI in 1995 when I was 13. They opened on stage with a cover of Sex Pistols "bodies" and went into a punk rock infused set with an improved New York City Dolls Tribute.

Anybody who likes AFI now is 15 and was 2 years old or not even born when I saw that gig.

AFI is dead now. They've been dead for years. But afterall- look at the generation that loves them...its the same generation that allows bands like AVA, Fallout Boy, MCR and A7X to exist. Its the nowhere generation Z lost and confused full of teenage boys..not sure if painting their nails is gay or ****ing another guy is wrong. Poor little emo/g0th noobspawns...when I was 13 being goth meant you skipped school, hated commercial music and smoked lots of weed...now it means you're either an emo, a homo or an effimenate dude who loves kittens and spending time smelling flowers. (Not that anythings wrong with that- its just funny how times 'they are a changin'.)

[Jau_Peacecraft]

Indeed, although what is going to be ironic is when the minority of this generation z, realizes this about their own generation, and then looks down at whatever generation comes after them (generation a? 0? whatever). Honestly, I'd go as far as to say the destruction of OiNK (and subsequent resurrection via 2 or 3 OiNK babie sites) may have been one of the needed catalysts for the concept of music to be approached differently, as well as one of the final battles the RIAA has lost.

The thing that anoyys me though, is that if AFI just genuinly ****ed up a bit in making a purposeful commitment to changing their sound (I honestly doubt it, but I still hold hope for the band sometimes) , why can't they admit it or tell the truth? Such an old framework of the RIAA and record companies are probably preventing them from admitting so (if anyone in the band does in fact think that). Just a shame since if I wasn't dependent upon the "old way of things", I'd have no qualms having an open, critical discussion of any music I made that fans might not like at all.

Oh well, I'm probably just being idealistic there :\.

[jsatch87]

I was 13 being goth meant you skipped school, hated commercial music and smoked lots of weed...now it means you're either an emo, a homo or an effimenate dude who loves kittens and spending time smelling flowers. (Not that anythings wrong with that- its just funny how times 'they are a changin'.)

i really don't even think i need to write anything here to display the idiocy of what you just said? You're what? 25 now? If you honestly think smoking pot is a necessity for any kind of social movement, or if "goth" can actually be considered a social movement rather than a passing trend, you're a moron.

[RainbowBassist]

cool i guess :O

[Andras5soul]

"Davey and I spent the last 3 days locked in a hotel room writing and we already have 4 new songs." HAHAHA I KNOW WE ARE ALL THINKING THE SAME THING.... its honestly a band of homos playing emo music for 13 year old girls! theyve definitely made it to the big time!!

Checked.

[HeavenlyVirus]

CrimsonNJ wrote:

Softer sounds. They started incorporating that dance and techno crap into their sound. What happened to the EBHC band known as AFI? When did Davey turn into a woman?

Uh, they got bored of recycled power chords and yelling and decided to do somehting new.

[Vin2254]

Andras5soul wrote:

"Davey and I spent the last 3 days locked in a hotel room writing and we already have 4 new songs." HAHAHA I KNOW WE ARE ALL THINKING THE SAME THING.... its honestly a band of homos playing emo music for 13 year old girls! theyve definitely made it to the big time!!

HAHAHA, thats so original. thats gotta be the first gay joke thats ever been made about AFI!.....Jackass

[qotsa1998]

Sing the Sorrow has some good songs on it, but comparitively, DecemberUnderground is much more Blaq Audio-esque. STS had more punk-ish songs compared to DU. Either way, the EP should be a nice mix of both, and the new album i expect will be closer to STS, unless Jade and Davey are still on their techno trip.

[TFK_62]

I'm hoping you're right about the new album. And I knew that gay comment a couple posts ago would come. Personally, I'm a little (just a little) anti-gay, but I don't care if all the bands I listen to are all gay, they all make good music. Don't get off on people's personal lives.

[TFK_62]

Oops, sorry, it was just quoted a couple posts back, sorry bout that Vin2254

[135789]

sing the sorrow was a great album IMO.

[beyondthegrave]

in my opinion this is the biggest sellout band in the world. they went from kickass to gay as hell. they should have stuck with their original sound

[the1]

AFI aren't actually homosexual as far as I know, just wierd.

Checked.

[BennyStruggle]

jsatch87 wrote:

i really don't even think i need to write anything here to display the idiocy of what you just said? You're what? 25 now? If you honestly think smoking pot is a necessity for any kind of social movement, or if "goth" can actually be considered a social movement rather than a passing trend, you're a moron.

You ever heard of Hippies? You heard of the Summer of Love? There are 2 of the biggest "social" movements of all time. Call me crazy but I have a strange inkling that pot was involved..

[BennyStruggle]

beyondthegrave wrote:

in my opinion this is the biggest sellout band in the world. they went from kickass to gay as hell. they should have stuck with their original sound

They have sucked since 1998 when Pubes Fucket joined the band.

[IsThereLoveInSp]

Im totally psyched to hear some Sing The Sorrow Bsides.

[nzhead]

BennyStruggle wrote:

beyondthegrave wrote:

in my opinion this is the biggest sellout band in the world. they went from kickass to gay as hell. they should have stuck with their original sound


They have sucked since 1998 when Pubes Fucket joined the band.

Good One, Dickweed!! STS was the first AFI album I brought and I loved love(d) it and went back and got their earlier albums and they are all wicked. Have to say though that DU really dissapointed me...still have a little faith though in a new album.

[~Funky monk~]

i think selling b-side albums is a great idea... i mean if it turns out to be complete balls then i guess thats why they didn't put them into the album right? so no need to worry about the band going downhill... it's just a nice insight into the band and a chance to hear some great music

[U-Mass]

Good to hear great news about one of my old favorite bands.

Decemberunderground was a good cd, but it really seems like they've left punk altogether. Which is sad, I'd love to hear another cd like The Art of Drowning or Very Proud of Ya

[grinspoon69]

i hope they go back to there songs like the secret ninja.
i love that song

[grinspoon69]

the1 :
AFI aren't actually homosexual as far as I know, just wierd.

the lead singer is.
right?
he has to be

[Raven91487]

AFI have put out some good albums in the beginning. Those albums are definitely better than the newer ones But the newer ones have some good songs and show that AFI still have something in them. I guess it's just the evolution of the band and what they want to do. Either way i support them and continue to get their albums.

[Guitar Skater]

i winder what else they were doing in the hotel room, gross

[ghoulsnightout]

sts was the first album i bought...it was alright but then i got very proud of ya and my thoughts changed completely. i wish they would go back to the same power chords and yelling as that one guy said..why should music be more complicated? and i would rather hear yelling than his screaming..sorry but screaming has been played out and so has this whole "trying to be different" thing trying to be different has produced such shitty albums as well.. DU and the new avenged. two bands that used to be good doing their thing then all of a sudden to appeal to the mainstream masses they changed. i know they both have gradually changed through the years but this last one has been drastic and very shitty. the old HC way of just yelling was awesome, a great way to show the passion in the music and you could actually understand em alot of the time what a concept. idk i guess im just stuck in the past wishing that punk was still around instead of this watered down replacement thats been fed to everyone idk i guess being stuck in the past means ill stick with the old albums so i can be happy and not always come on here and rant like a moron haha

[SmileOfHavok]

AFI's audience today is kind of 50/50. Hate em or love em.

[fleetingillness]

BennyStruggle wrote:

jsatch87 wrote:

i really don't even think i need to write anything here to display the idiocy of what you just said? You're what? 25 now? If you honestly think smoking pot is a necessity for any kind of social movement, or if "goth" can actually be considered a social movement rather than a passing trend, you're a moron.


You ever heard of Hippies? You heard of the Summer of Love? There are 2 of the biggest "social" movements of all time. Call me crazy but I have a strange inkling that pot was involved..

Uh, I'm pretty sure that any list of the biggest social movements of all time would include neither of those. I'm sure Martin Luther King was driven to battle for civil rights because he got high.

[droog4life]

i'm glad im not the only who greatly dislikes new afi... but everyone seems to like black sails in the sunset and sing the sorrow where, for me, is when i started disliking them because of the change in those cds... anyone else here miss the shut your mouth and open your eyes and all hallows eve ep days??

[The Spoon]

Bananapatata wrote:

MaxLees666 :
Oh dear I'm not very fond of albums made of unreleased songs from past albums. Rosenrot by Rammstein is a perfect example of how it can turn out less than perfect.
And System of a Down's "Steal This Album" is a perfect example of how it can be done right.

I had no idea that was a b-side album, it was my favorite album by SOAD

[smp2_3]

yeah well your a ****head then lol. jokkeee
yeah afi are shit you little fags

[Kuri]

I like both the new and old Afi. I mean both eras have their goods and bads, but its an overall awesome. Looking forward to their new album.

Jau_Peacecraft wrote:

First off, Decemberunderground almost sounded like a visual-kei album from japan, not a good thing at all when you're talking about quality music.

Um. Not really, buddy. For future reference, Visual Kei is an image rather than a genre. Japanese Rock varies a lot so you're going to have to be specific when you're saying that Decemberunderground sounds like a "Visual Kei" album.

[anexplodingboy]

Decemberunderground and STS are my two favourite AFI albums. I hate it when people say "you're not a real fan, you only like their commercial albums, not the actual band."

Seriously, they've changed as a band. Just because you don't like the new albums doesn't mean they've suddenly become a shit band. They're just a different band now.

You like their old stuff more; I like their new stuff more. What's the problem?

[Jau_Peacecraft]

Kuri wrote:

I like both the new and old Afi. I mean both eras have their goods and bads, but its an overall awesome. Looking forward to their new album.

Jau_Peacecraft wrote:

First off, Decemberunderground almost sounded like a visual-kei album from japan, not a good thing at all when you're talking about quality music.


Um. Not really, buddy. For future reference, Visual Kei is an image rather than a genre. Japanese Rock varies a lot so you're going to have to be specific when you're saying that Decemberunderground sounds like a "Visual Kei" album.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei

"...Some sources state that Visual Kei refers to a music genre, or to a sub-genre of J-rock...related to glam-rock, punk and metal..."

Um, yes really buddy. Even though Visual-Kei is more about image, their is a certain "sound" that comes with all the shitty bands (Oh wow, wikipedia agrees with me, I wonder why...). So much so, that you have roughly a given 20 bands that all essentially sound the same, the differences mainly being superifical like the pitch of a singer's voice, shitty production or shittier production, etc. etc. The opening track sounded like something out of a Nightmare album (Raven Loud Speeker, if i remember the song title correctly).


And the problem I have with their "new stuff" (i really only mean decemberunderground) is that compared to Sing The Sorrow, which actually sounded like the band took their time to make an album, decemberunderground sounds like a lazy p.o.s. Ironically, to me it sounds like they just got a bunch of not so good STS b-sides and decided to call it an album, so as for an upcoming b-sides album, I won't hold my breathe. It just confuses me as both an old school fan of AFI and a fan of their STS album (The Art of Drowning not so much, that used to be their worst album, imo, until decemberunderground came out), they would "evolve" (bullocks, in this case) to this hollowed out, techno fascade of what they achieved on STS. STS was mature, emotional without being too terribly "emo" & lame, complex lyrics with complex songs, and had a concept to boot. Listening to the album felt like a journey, not a chore. It also had 2 pleasently more old-school sounding b-sides on the UK release.

Decemberunderground just has a bunch of stupid bunnies on the cover (ho ho! bunnies are cute, AFI shouldn't be cute, this is irony I guess), cheap song's that could easily flow through the ears of a vaucous MTV listener, and lyrics that hit or miss, often missing, because of the simple fact that compared to the last album (even compared to art of drowning) decemberunderground doesn't sound like evolution at all. It sounds like a band who for whatever reason, decided to waste their time touring and trying to convince people with a critical mind that this isn't some cheap album, when they could've easily taken an additional year off from releasing an AFI album doing this techno bullshit with their side projects (that's what they are there for). I'm not trying to be a hard-lined ass about it, but there's considerable evidence that wouldn't make me think otherwise. I mean, it's not as if other band's have purposley co-opted their own sound and many fans of said sound in exhchange for more sales, more mainstream coverage, etc. etc.?

Nope, this has never happened before, and it could never happen to AFI. Just like it didn't happen to any of these bands at some point: Green Day, Dir En Grey (I realize this is probably one you're favorites band evar, sorry about that), Bad Religion (they did do this a bit on The New America, mainly due to a shitty producer's influence), The Rolling Stones, Blink 182, The Steve Miller Band, Sum 41 (see: Underclass Hero). Actually, I could go on to name a bunch of band's, but everyone knows what I'm talking about.

[Jau_Peacecraft]

*** I now realize the nightmare comparison is a bit flimsy, possibly because I've listened to so much nightmare ;D. However, the comparison visual-kei quality still stands, methinks.

[gUItArSrME]

Sing the sorrow was probably my favorite style to ever come from AFI. im really hoping that this next album will be like sing the sorrow. i got Decemberunderground, but i got tired of the electronica and techno sound. i always go back to listening to the older albums

[siahjo]

sowhat360 wrote:

now AFI is a major sellout band....first few albums were awesome...last few albums were way overproduced and majorly softened up.....i think they're more concerned about their haircuts and makeup now...it's too bad cause they used to be good

Used to be good? There's something wrong with you, boy; AFI have never and can never suck, merely because they have one of the greatest lyricist and (dare I say it) THE greatest punk guitarist of all time. (And yes; he still qualifies as a punk guitarist, despite the fact that they haven't released a proper punk album since at least The Art of Drowning.) To say they are a sellout is to miss the point entirely; they've been doing what most bands nowadays only wish they could do, and that is to consistently make great albums without getting stuck in the rut of "sounds the same". So who cares if they don't sound like they used to? If you don't appreciate the fact that their music has become art, then you were never a fan. GTFO.

[emosrgay]

Hey Afi sucks. I bet the new album will contain footage of the band in their greatest hours...u know 69ing and eating each others butts out. i heard they are making out with other homosexual emo bands like hawthorne heights.

[fts666]

emosrgay wrote:

Hey Afi sucks. I bet the new album will contain footage of the band in their greatest hours...u know 69ing and eating each others butts out. i heard they are making out with other homosexual emo bands like hawthorne heights.

get a life!
what about the EP then?

[blaqk_fiend]

freakin come out with the shit already theyre pissing me off

[Afi_rocker_91]

Who the heck cares if he looks like a chick? i think its pretty lame judging people like that. And its a good thing every cd is different. It would get boring listening to the same old crap everyday