'Dubstep Is New Metal', Say Muse

Muse recorded a dubstep track – and maybe two – for upcoming album "The 2nd Law" after seeing leading light Skrillex perform a live show.

And they say the experience proved to them that dubstep is the new heavy metal.

Skrillex previously turned Korn onto the possibilities of the genre, resulting in their album "The Path Of Totality" – although they say their next release will go back to their analogue roots.

Meanwhile, Muse have followed them down the experimental path, which they’ll reveal in "The 2nd Law: Unsustainable", the penultimate track on their next record.

Frontman Matt Bellamy tells NME: "That stuff is capturing the imagination. The moshpit has moved from guitars and gone towards the laptop. With the song we’re trying to see if we can challenge the laptop.

"We created something that's dubsteppy, but we wanted to see if we could do it with real instruments. We wanted to ask, 'Can rock bands compete with what these guys are doing?'"

Drummer Dom Howard reports: "We went to see Skrillex and we went, 'F--k, it's so heavy!' It was like a full metal gig – they had circles of death. People were moshing. I hadn't seen a reaction like that to electronic music before. We took inspiration and came up with 'The 2nd Law: Unsustainable'."

The band add that fans can expect a "jazzy brass number" and some "quite minimal" songs too.

The 13-track album is due out on September 17.

Tracklisting:

01. Supremacy
02. Madness
03. Panic Station
04. Prelude
05. Survival
06. Follow Me
07. Animals
08. Explorers
09. Big Freeze
10. Save Me
11. Liquid State
12. The 2nd Law: Unsustainable
13. The 2nd Law: Isolated System

Thanks for the report to ClassicRockMagazine.com.

Comments

[N-D]

"We went to see Skrillex and we went, 'F--k, it's so heavy!' It was like a full metal gig – they had circles of death. People were moshing. I hadn't seen a reaction like that to electronic music before."

This occurs at The Prodigy concerts since the late 90s.

[JFRules]

Nooooo

[iommi600]

I think Jonathan Davis already said that...

Also, it's nothing new that electronic concerts can get just as batshit crazy as a metal concert, but nope, dubstep is not the new heavy metal, dude.

I don't think you ever been in a Municipal Waste concert...

[BionicRooster]

Yeeeeeah, the picture doesn't do them any justice. But the Prodigy have been doing this for years.

[Minivirus2]

A popuiar artist, has an opinion on popular music and trends...

Yeah, I still don't give a **** about dubstep and no, it most certainly is NOT the new heavy metal. If anything, it's the new hair metal: bland, cheesy and made for the mainstream.

[jordo246]

I'm sick of every band I like doing this experimental shit, why can't they stick with what they're good at, people will complain now matter what they do but at least if it's what they're good at it will sound better than some random dubstep shit that needs to disappear.

[nathanwaffles]

Is there a reason he looks like a damn psycho in the photo? Is UG trying to make a point?

[mradubz33]

Muse recorded a dubstep track – and maybe two – for upcoming album "The 2nd Law" after seeing leading light Skrillex perform a live show.

So they went to see Skrillex push play on his laptop?

[kLeft]

lol wat.

[Low Profile]

I don't like where this is going. There first song that they posted on the internet for this album that had Dubstep in it I thought ruined the song since it came right the hell out of nowhere and seemed just to be thrown in and I did not think it went very well with the rest of the song which sounded pretty good.

This seemed alot like a when Radiohead released Kid A and many people where shocked at that it was mostly electronic music and was completely different then Ok Computer, but it was a damn good album because they experimented very well with electronic music and also had a few songs where they blended there more Rock sounding music with there new Electronic music very well and in the end it may of sounded completely different but it still sounded like Radiohead. Muse on the other hand from what I seen just threw Dubstep right in there did not make a attempt to blend there style of music with Dubstep which would make that song better rather then just having a normal sounding Muse song and then BAM ****ing Dubstep.

[Skodward714]

I admit, I kind of like Skrillex, so I'm interested to see how this album turns out. I'm all for bands trying new things.

[Agent 00Awesome]

No..just no. Dubstep will NEVER be 'heavy metal'. There's only one metal, and its ****ing called metal. Not dubstep.

[mercury23]

now they can suck even more

[red_hot_chili18]

Looking forward to hearing this, hope that most of the electronic elements are produced using a Khaos Pad or something mental, long live Muse!!!

[flaphead325]

AS SAID PROF. HUBERT FARNSWORTH IN FUTURAMA'S SEASON SIX:

"I DON'T WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET ANYMORE".

[Raven_Flight]

I'm totally up for this. More than half of the people that complain about dubstep always say "They don't play real instruments!","He only pushes a button on the laptop!",etc. This could be a chance for them to look behind that and actually get around the music that is coming out of the speakers.

[Archer250]

Right, now REAL players practice and rehearse their songs. I bet you after a dubsteb song is made, all you need to do is press a button.

[oburstein]

I thought Limp Bizkit was new metal

[chargerbandit]

just....WHAT THE FUCK

[slapsymcdougal]

I wasn't going to get the new Muse album before this, and now, I still won't get it.

[clincher09]

I'm not even a huge metal fan, but this statement is insulting to metal. Dubstep is just a shitty trend that will be abandoned, metal was a music changing genre that required immense talent to pull off.

[crazysam23_Atax]

If Muse seriously think this, then they're batshit crazy.

[Educated420]

Im a huge Muse fan, and this is depressing. They;re feeding the mainstream heart of a bastard music movement. Why? Showbiz, Origin, Hullabaloo, Black Holes and Revelations? Then you make an album like the last one, and you release a song like that pathetic "Survive? What the hell Matt, what the hell

[Educated420]

Oh, and Absolution. Can't Forget that masterpiece! How do they release 5 masterpieces, one iffy one, and now a complete waste of time?

[He11s Be11s]

NOOOOO my eyes just got raped

[funkadelicblues]

Dubstep sounds like Transformers doing the nasty

[derpdragon]

I always said Muse was trash, but this just further proved my point.

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

what a massive confusion! he must really mean that dubstep is nu metal.

[Suffocation666]

This band has made good music but I hate this whole "omgz dubstep is so deep and br00tal, and the wuvz r exactly like a well placed breakdown" attitude. Its electronic music and while i like some dubstep artists a lot, Skrillex is the worst artist in the genre. Fuck brostep

[jonpguitar01]

Yeah well Muse are hardly Metal, I mean c'mon...

[MetalRock4ever]

Bullsh!t. He's on drugs (look at the picture above). I like the stuff Muse makes, got nothing against them, up till now; this is bull.

[Microcutted]

jordo246 wrote:

I'm sick of every band I like doing this experimental shit, why can't they stick with what they're good at, people will complain now matter what they do but at least if it's what they're good at it will sound better than some random dubstep shit that needs to disappear.

Because then music would be f***** boring. There wouldn't even be rock music (blues+country+something else). Muse made more heavy stuff in their early career but just playing one kind of music will never be creative .

[AnnihilationUK]

Raven_Flight wrote:

I'm totally up for this. More than half of the people that complain about dubstep always say "They don't play real instruments!","He only pushes a button on the laptop!",etc. This could be a chance for them to look behind that and actually get around the music that is coming out of the speakers.

This could be a chance for them to look behind that and actually get around the music that is coming out of the speakers

music

It's not really music though, is it?
My life will be the over the day I hear "aw I heard this new Dubstep song, it goes like this"

BGZZOOOOO BRLRLRLRLR ZZZZZ ZPZPZP BZHOOOOO

[MetalRock4ever]

Plus, dubstep is a comeback for techno music, with a few twists. How the hell can techno become the next metal?!

[dark Mass]

Not the ****ing Brostep that skrillex does.

[Microcutted]

Educated420 wrote:

Oh, and Absolution. Can't Forget that masterpiece! How do they release 5 masterpieces, one iffy one, and now a complete waste of time?

You have not yet heard the album, you have just heard 7 minutes. Don't judge so quickly.

[burnummaster]

This dubstep is so heavy!!! Oh wait...this slayer album from the 80s is way heavier...

[Hoodoo Child]

All the haters don't trust Muse to come out with something decent? Move along then

[The_Locker]

How the mighty have fallen.

[Zeppoholic]

and I thought I hated Muse before.. hate on a whole notha level now....

[Chronologo]

Trends =/ way of life... sorry guys but dubstep won't never be any close to metal. This is just a trend it may be a breakthrough in the new music scene but it won't last long, and it won't be remembered as having their own pinnacle decade as metal has.

[Sundben]

Dubstep is dubstep. Metal is metal. Is that hard to understand?

[stonedhippos]

that pic is the definition or "rape face"

[Maiden95]

I...just...don't..get....dubstep. The name itself makes me want to pull my hair out.

I tried to give this band a chance before and some of it was okay. But now they just sound like total f***ing idiots. Stick to making MUSIC guys.

[barfrog]

Sorry, but where does it actually say that Muse think that "Dubstep is the new Metal"?

UG blowing some idle comment out of proportion? Well I never...

[losing battle]

Any one else think they are just trying to cash in on the popularity of dubstep?

[Maiden95]

losing battle wrote:

Any one else think they are just trying to cash in on the popularity of dubstep?

I think that's exactly what they are doing really. I think Korn was doing the same thing too.

[Meta1H3ad]

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

[joestrat5000]

Every dubstep song i hear is the same as the one before it...

[EvilSuperJesus6]

Has anyone else given up on muse
I have

[DeyarmondMark]

If Skrillex's laptop crash midway through his set, good luck making a good recovery from that one mid song. When a guitar string breaks midway through a song, you can keep playing or switch guitars.

[HARTATTACK69]

"the majority of Dubstep is a better than the majority of Metal" said nobody ever

[Darth Wader]

Dubstep...the downfall of music

[ne14t]

Dubstep falls into the EDM category it will NEVER be metal, please make sure this is understood. For the most part there isn't even instruments used for making this music its all VST plugins. Get a bunch of MOOG synth equipment do it on the fly and I might get interested but pressing play on a laptop and maybe hitting a few midi buttons to add in samples. To me this is a very rudimentary form of music, but yes it is still music. All my hatred aside I will say I do like the wubby bass they use in dubstep other then that meh.

[duncang]

losing battle wrote:

Any one else think they are just trying to cash in on the popularity of dubstep?

No, Muse make a lot more money than any dubstep artists.

[robo37]

Damn. Still, less embarrassing than Brian May working with Dappy and the boy band Blue, and Ozzy showing up on the X-Factor, or Led Zep having numerous court cases about them claiming other people's songs as their own... just.

[Abacus11]

Don't get me wrong, Muse is good at what they do but what do they know about heavy metal? They aren't and never were a heavy metal band. Saying that dubstep is the new heavy metal is ridiculous anyway.

[Lord_Doku]

It just seems a bit weird to me, that a band like Muse, which has not even a single affiliation with heavy metal, thinks they can tell what the new metal is gonna be.

[purplexing]

I completely agree. Metal is dead, and dubstep is taking the agressive demoraphic.

[Randomrings]

That actually wasn't as douche as I thought it would be. I can see what he's saying, at least I hope...

You go to a heavy metal show, or a hardcore show or death metal show people are moving. They may look like they're throwing a baby fit but they're moving. So people were doing the same thing at Skrillex.

Now with his guitar toys and effects Matt has created something "dubsteppy" and I thought in the preview that sounded a lot more like his guitar than a synth so I actually want to see how this turns out

[BudSlayer]

**** YOU!!!!! Think before you speak

[vaca11]

korn dubstep was like metal with effects in it.. kind of a dj in background

wtf is wrong with muse..

and next article on UG:

Coutrney Love sues Skrillex for stealing lyrics of kurts unreleased tracks...

[Aaron!!]

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar. You're all just butt hurt because the genre you love isn't mainstream and lacks the potency to capture widespread attention. I like metal as much as dubstep, but the way a lot of you elitist benders dismiss electronic music as somehow inferior to other music is laughably ignorant.

[BVB14]

I think MUSE just lost a lot of fans.....

[Tcsanchez]

Thank god I hate Muse. Also Dubstep.

[fivebizebeavers]

I have DAW, and I use it, and its harder than people claim, and harder than I thought it was going to be.

[spiff-corgi]

Dubstep can never be the new metal because of the crowd it attracts. You'd never see a upper middle class white guy with a reverse mullet, snapback, and unnecessary backpack at a metal gig... drinking WKD.

[spiff-corgi]

And also, Muse have always talked absolute shite. They wrote songs about alien invasions, politicians actually being aliens etc. on Black Holes. I'll always put some time aside for their new stuff, and always ignore what bullshit comes out of their mouths in press releases.

[Iommianity]

See, if you mix metal and electric music, and you don't get an album like Godflesh's Us and Them, or something, it's probably terrible.

[FiddleJohnny]

'Tis a big fad, I say!

[Riser]

You guys all suck. Yes, dubstep will never be metal, because metal will always be metal, but you don't have to talk trash about dubstep. If you really don't think there's much to it, pirate a DAW and drop a track, cuz I'd really like to see how another metalhead like me goes about doing this again

[GeekInThePink]

Haters gonna hate. Everything Muse has done from "Showbiz" to "The Resistance" is awesome and this will be awesome, too.

[LightxGrenade]

Can't wait until this albums drops. Muse to me are arguably the most talented "mainstream" band out right now. Unfortunately this article had the word "dubstep" which is a hot word in UG, kind of like screaming the word "bomb" in an airport - no one appreciates it. lol

[COBHC145]

I'm trying so hard not to shit my pants with laughter

[Ubergrue]

Educated420 wrote:

Im a huge Muse fan, and this is depressing. They;re feeding the mainstream heart of a bastard music movement. Why? Showbiz, Origin, Hullabaloo, Black Holes and Revelations? Then you make an album like the last one, and you release a song like that pathetic "Survive? What the hell Matt, what the hell

I feel you dude. I'm also a Showbiz, Origin, and Hullabaloo fan. This is kinda starting to feel like the whole Dave Mustaine thing. People like his music but they have to like them in secret because Dave says embarrassing shit all the time. I seriously hope this album turns out to be amazing and can hopefully prove people wrong :/

[motortallica]

they had circles of death hahahahahaha lol ****kkkk

[Root Beer]

I like seeing bands experiment with their sound and all... but I don't like where this is going. Even when Radiohead incorporated dubstep into their sound it only SORT OF worked. I can't imagine Muse doing it.

[Darth_Pietrus]

K cool, now go to a Cannibal Corpse concert and see if you guys survive. Maybe that will inspire you then.

[Salvo416]

I think dubstep CAN be metal IF DONE CORRECTLY... that being said I think we should listen to the album first before passing judgement. Korn kinda went somewhere with the same method but it wasn't quite there so lets see what happens with this album.

For all we know this could end up being quite a breakthrough in music so I'm going to be loyal to this idea. The song titles seem quite intriguing.

[Bass-riffer]

Minivirus2 wrote:

A popuiar artist, has an opinion on popular music and trends...

Yeah, I still don't give a **** about dubstep and no, it most certainly is NOT the new heavy metal. If anything, it's the new hair metal: bland, cheesy and made for the mainstream.

That's what I think about every mainstream genre. Like Glam Metal, it's has a few awesome acts, then just plauged by bands ripping of those bands. And Dubstep isn't the new Metal, it's the new dance music, **** sub-genres, it's dance music.

[JayMichaelRayne]

well muse used some elements of dubstep in their songs but now they finally let it come thru

[iommi600]

Nice new like/dislike bar for the articles, UG.
Now I've seen how much shit this article got and I lol'd.

[Raven_Flight]

AnnihilationUK wrote:

It's not really music though, is it?
My life will be the over the day I hear "aw I heard this new Dubstep song, it goes like this"

BGZZOOOOO BRLRLRLRLR ZZZZZ ZPZPZP BZHOOOOO

Who are you say what is music and what is not? That you don't like doesn't mean it's not music. The definition of what is music broadens as time passes by and people start experimenting with new sounds. And I guess dubstep isn't even THAT far away from what an average person would consider a musical piece.

[Voodoochile711]

I don't dislike dubstep; it was meant for something different than what metal is meant for. It was meant for parties and clubs. You wouldn't play classical music at a club, but that doesn't make it any less musical. It still takes talent to make a good dubstep song. It's just a different talent.

[Salvo416]

Wow did I really post that 3 times?... I'm sorry guys. My computers been whacky

[Lee Makky]

"Circle of Death"
Is that a mix of Wall of Death and Circle Pit?
That would be interesting?

[arnolddrummer]

Oh god forbid a band tries something new! I am going to but the album, Muse knows how to be heavy and this is just a new way for them to be heavy while also exploring other musical possibilities.

[skaryguy]

Eh, Heavy Metal hasn't gone anywhere, Muse can suck my b*lls!

[skaryguy]

Actually, I retract my comment before...studpidly I didn't actually read all of his comments first, he never actually says "Dubstep is the new Heavy Metal". It's just typical media rubbish putting a spin on comments made by him. He compares it to a metal show, nothing more.

[skaryguy]

Having said that, I've nothing against Dubstep, but I guarantee Heavy Metal will be around a lot longer.

[skaryguy]

Lee Makky wrote:

"Circle of Death"
Is that a mix of Wall of Death and Circle Pit?
That would be interesting?

Haha, dude, I think Matt Bellamy just doesn't know what a circle pit is.

[wikuk]

Sigh. And I used to love Muse so much. :'(

[Farbeyondfuked]

Some of these "Rock Star" musicians are out of touch

[?happy?]

Fuck you Muse.

[damillion]

Let's just conclude this thread by saying: Dear Muse, do whatever you want, but you're wrong.

[Dynamight]

Blasphemy.

[baneofmorgoth]

You know, people have been saying that Metal is doomed since it's beginning, yet somehow it survives and continues to thrive.

[KISSmyass666]

cannabal corpse shuld kick theair asses

[leohimself]

what if...

\m/ SLAAAYYYYYERRRRR \m/

goes dubstep? :O

All you guys bashing dubstep, that's just your opinion. It doesn't mean that it's universally true just because you say so. Every genre has its ups and its downs.

[timk56]

I'd say he's a troll, but I have this feeling that hes being serious

[Lion_Slicer]

Why do people say dubstep and metal are similar? It's not true. If it were true then there should be at least one example of dubstep I can tolerate, but I've never heard such a thing.

That said, I believe Muse are very talented and have always incorporated diverse influences into their music. So they can pull it off if they do it right, and I really hope they do.

[boratian]

Shut the **** up Muse

[Linkerman]

Dubstep is NOT new metal.

Muse is old $#!*.

[DSG3002]

Something's ****ed up in his brain if he thinks dubstep is ANYTHING like what REAL metal is about.

[little_boy]

Muse are retarded

[MoonBoots432]

mradubz33 wrote:
So they went to see Skrillex push play on his laptop?

Have you ever seen a DJ perform? Have you ever DJ'd?

[TimTheWizard]

If Matt Bellamy has become so lame that he really needs to listen to mainstream artists (lady Gaga for Resistance and apparently Skrillex for this new album) to gain "inspiration", I'd say he's just a money *****. I'm dropping this turd right now before it gets lukewarm, where's Radiohead?!

Oh and talking bout Radiohead... don't you find it funny that in the beginning of their career had been called Radiohead copycats and now, after Radiohead succesfully made "organic" (using instruments) dubstep, that Muse will attempt so too?

[Eclectic Lizard]

This story gave me cancer

[Ibanez734]

I don't think anyone actually read the article, and all the haters are jumping on the word "dubstep"...if you read the article, Muse do not say that dubstep is metal.

[ckysteve5]

LightxGrenade wrote:

Can't wait until this albums drops. Muse to me are arguably the most talented "mainstream" band out right now. Unfortunately this article had the word "dubstep" which is a hot word in UG, kind of like screaming the word "bomb" in an airport - no one appreciates it. lol

Seriously, whenever the word dubstep is mentioned on UG everyone grabs their torches and pitchforks lol CALM DOWN. It's not like Muse is making an entire dubstep album. They are going to incorporate aspects of it into their music and try to do it with instruments rather than computer software.

skaryguy wrote:

Actually, I retract my comment before...studpidly I didn't actually read all of his comments first, he never actually says "Dubstep is the new Heavy Metal". It's just typical media rubbish putting a spin on comments made by him. He compares it to a metal show, nothing more.

Exactly! I think the only thing he was saying is that dubstep is capable of capturing the intensity that is typically only found at a metal concert or in heavy metal music. Nowhere does it say that dubstep is better than metal or it's replacing metal. And like it or not, dubstep is very similar metal in the sense that it's intense, it's controversial, and just non-conventional. What do you think people said when the first heavy metal music came out? "Heavy metal is an atrocity! It's not even music, it's just loud noise that weirdos with anger problems and stupid haircuts like to bang their heads to! What unbridled tomfoolery this is! Fortunately it's just a fad, nobody will remember heavy metal in 10 years. Well, I think I am going to be extra rambunctious and listen to my Simon & Garfunkel record at a higher than normal volume today! Oh boy, does my audacity know no bounds? Welp, Pip pip cheerio!"

(P.S. Simon & Garfunkel are awesome)

[ffaf12]

prodigy...that is all

[qrEE]

Whenever something is referred to as the "new metal"... I worry. I worry greatly. This means that Skrillex is the new Limp Bizkit. I'll make sure to never hear a song of his again. Even though I've never heard a full song of his to begin with. Just 5 to 20 second clips.

[ToalNOOB]

I remember when metal tried this the first time in the 80's. And we got a bunch of shit metal fans didn't want. It happened a little with nu metal too.

[Leybick]

Just had to skim this. To summarize:

1) Muse is garbage. I’ve tried to give them a shot, but the only song that I came out liking was a cover...To me it all sounds like sonic the hedgehog with a thom yorke phoney singing over it. He is a talented singer but christ can you sound any more spot on?

2) Dubstep is garbage. I don’t really know what exactly it is, but in my travels I have sampled a few alleged “dubstep” songs, and they were all garbage. And I love electronic music and am an electronic musician myself. To get a greater understanding, though, is this stuff on the radio with all these four on the floor beats then these obnoxious chipmunk fart breakdowns technically dubstep? If it is then it’s worse than I thought.

3) Simon and Garfunkel were and are still awesome.

[TimTheWizard]

ToalNOOB wrote:

I remember when metal tried this the first time in the 80's. And we got a bunch of shit metal fans didn't want. It happened a little with nu metal too.

Nu metal bands that I liked (Linkin Park and SOAD eg) were awesome, brah.

[DexterF]

"Water is dry", say Muse

[JAEX370]

dubstep is NOT the new metal in any way shape or form.

[TheBabySnatcher]

ironman316 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar. You're all just butt hurt because the genre you love isn't mainstream and lacks the potency to capture widespread attention. I like metal as much as dubstep, but the way a lot of you elitist benders dismiss electronic music as somehow inferior to other music is laughably ignorant.

you are an idiot.

Uh, no dude. Aaron has it exactly right. You're the idiot.

+1 Aaron's statement is spot on.

[Silver Blues]

Oh, god no. Not more of this shit.

[im not mental]

UGers being butthurt in the comment section? color me surprised.

["Tele" Steve]

I just don't get what's so great about dubstep. Every time I've tried to listen to it it leaves me cold. I do like a lot of electronica but dubstep doesn't seem unique to me and it's annoying how it tries to masquerade as rock a lot of the time.

[getawaygman]

Never liked Muse

[OneTimeReview]

FUUUUUCK NO!

[RATMfan420]

Ya know, I like that ONE dubstep song. Just the one. You know the one that goes like this: "Wub Wub Wub Wub WERRRHBMMMZZSSHHK WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WER WER WER WERR WER" THat ones good, the rest suck ass.

[Juln.]

Low Profile wrote:

I don't like where this is going. There first song that they posted on the internet for this album that had Dubstep in it I thought ruined the song since it came right the hell out of nowhere and seemed just to be thrown in and I did not think it went very well with the rest of the song which sounded pretty good.

This seemed alot like a when Radiohead released Kid A and many people where shocked at that it was mostly electronic music and was completely different then Ok Computer, but it was a damn good album because they experimented very well with electronic music and also had a few songs where they blended there more Rock sounding music with there new Electronic music very well and in the end it may of sounded completely different but it still sounded like Radiohead. Muse on the other hand from what I seen just threw Dubstep right in there did not make a attempt to blend there style of music with Dubstep which would make that song better rather then just having a normal sounding Muse song and then BAM ****ing Dubstep.

That was just a trailer made of two songs.. the strings and choir part belonging to Supremacy and the dubstep part belonging to Unsustainable.

With that said, I can't really understand why everyone is stick to "their first albums were so good, why don't they do what they're good at and stop experimenting and bla bla bla", I mean, c'mon, everyone gets tired of doing the same thing over and over again. We're f***ing humans after all! I personally think that experimenting is the way to understand music better. And I don't know if you guys know, but every band you're a fan of, they do what kind of music they want, they won't stick to a kind of sound 'cus a buch of fans like it that way, I mean they don't really care about losing one or two fans 'cus they try blending genres of music.

[sloppyjoe24]

I lost some respect for Muse just now. But gained just a little because they're trying dubstep with instruments. Not a laptop. At least give them credit for that, because nobody else has really tried it...for good reason I might add.

[Philip_pepper]

Muse have lost it quite a while ago, now they are digging themselves even deeper.

[thewalrus77]

as if i needed another reason to hate muse...

[Sammeir123]

'Dubstep Is New Metal', Say Muse
-----
They didn't say that though, did they? Misleading title again.

[LaughingWater2]

Im sorry Muse, You've Lost a fan. If you had experimented with ANY other form of electronica you'd still have my respect. theres house, trance, hardcore, hardstyle, psy-trance, ambient, krautrock, techno, trip hop, drum & bass, Uk garage, Euro house, big beat, acid house and out of that you choose dubstep, WHY??? theres no other explaination other than selling out

[robbie.thecloud]

oh lord if this was true(wich it isint)i dont want to live any more

[WPtak]

Muse=prophecy. on your knees sinners!
oh wait...it's Lemmy so let's just keep rock n roll

[Sweet Laddio]

>they had circles of death

I'm not sure if Muse know what goes on at a metal gig...

[madz]

let's face it we are gettimng old..

[Eillak]

Oh god no.. They're just being sheep.

[Shredder5150]

Dubstep is new metal?? this sure is an early April fools joke.. oh wait what am i saying? DUBSTEP IS A JOKE!!! and not a very good one. But i guess no talent crap is the standard now. The people that should be leading the metal movement is Andy James and Jeff Loomis.

[pHiLLa]

Gather them in a church and set it on fire,

[jackson_kingv]

No just no

[Akaforty]

 N-D  wrote:

"We went to see Skrillex and we went, 'F--k, it's so heavy!' It was like a full metal gig – they had circles of death. People were moshing. I hadn't seen a reaction like that to electronic music before."

This occurs at The Prodigy concerts since the late 90s.

And Pendulum.

[hairydeadperson]

Look, i used to love muse, i really did. Hulaballoo era, mat smashing up guitars, ridiculous gothic hairstyles and songs, just sheer crazy genius. Matt Bellamy has just gotten his nose wedged up his arse. Its so sad. I think origin of symmetry was one of the best rock albums of the past 20 years. They've just gone downhill. Far too pretentious and focused on the end of the world.

[Dr. Knox666]

"The moshpit has moved from guitars and gone towards the laptop".
I thought if this is true I'm gonna kill myself but then I listened to Testament's new album and thought FUCK YOU!

[sn00ze]

"'Can rock bands compete with what these guys are doing?'" Since when is the music competition?

[DanBrown93]

Muse **** off!

[headbang123]

they had circles of death.

Does he mean WALL of death? Or circle PITS maybe? What the hell is a circle of death???

[GuitarQ33r0]

oh god why?
Hipster kids will now think they are metalheads.

[SkepsisMetal]

Children, children everywhere. And crying again, nonetheless. Why am I not surprised?

Let's put it in plain simple "English" for those of you too butthurt and ignorant to read a full sentence:

Dubstep =/= Metal
Skrillex =/=Dubstep
Dubstep = Real Music

Electronic music is having a huge revival, and like it or not there are far more talented and successful electronic producers breaking through than there are metal artists. Each of the genres has their greats, so I'm not including them in that statement, but the up and comers in the metal world really are as generic and cash-cow beating (if not more) that the young producers.
Debate with me/insult me all you like, you'll be wrong.

[EoinOwnage]

muse used to be good, now they're just a docter who tribute act.

[jordo246]

SkepsisMetal wrote:

Children, children everywhere. And crying again, nonetheless. Why am I not surprised?

Let's put it in plain simple "English" for those of you too butthurt and ignorant to read a full sentence:

Dubstep =/= Metal
Skrillex =/=Dubstep
Dubstep = Real Music

Electronic music is having a huge revival, and like it or not there are far more talented and successful electronic producers breaking through than there are metal artists. Each of the genres has their greats, so I'm not including them in that statement, but the up and comers in the metal world really are as generic and cash-cow beating (if not more) that the young producers.
Debate with me/insult me all you like, you'll be wrong.

Breaking through =/= Good music

[GameSkate]

You guys just got trolled, lol.

[Iommianity]

SkepsisMetal wrote:

Children, children everywhere. And crying again, nonetheless. Why am I not surprised?

Let's put it in plain simple "English" for those of you too butthurt and ignorant to read a full sentence:

Dubstep =/= Metal
Skrillex =/=Dubstep
Dubstep = Real Music

Electronic music is having a huge revival, and like it or not there are far more talented and successful electronic producers breaking through than there are metal artists. Each of the genres has their greats, so I'm not including them in that statement, but the up and comers in the metal world really are as generic and cash-cow beating (if not more) that the young producers.
Debate with me/insult me all you like, you'll be wrong.

Honestly, anyone who disagrees with you probably likes said metal bands. I don't care what your personal tastes are or what you like; more power to you. But anyone who thinks that the most commercially metal bands of the day are pushing the boundaries in any meaningful way needs to stop kidding themselves.

You're never going to see the metal bands that push the genre forward in any meaningful way get mainstream success today, and I'm sorry if you think that Lamb of God, Gojira, Mastodon (who I love), or the like the bands doing it.

[bartdevil_metal]

Anywhere else I'd be happy to read this, but UG's elitism in the comments takes the edge off the excitement to me.

[Nethero]

You know what, I think I can deal with just one song being Dubstep on the new album. I'm still gonna get it.

[cxrlxscr]

Muse are officially dead for me. I'm just going to pretend they split up after Absolution. At least we'll always have Origin of Symmetry.

[biff022]

One more reason (out of a thousand) why Muse is terrible.

[NeutralFan]

jordo246 wrote:

I'm sick of every band I like doing this experimental shit, why can't they stick with what they're good at, people will complain now matter what they do but at least if it's what they're good at it will sound better than some random dubstep shit that needs to disappear.

I don't get it. Muse are one of the most diverse and musically experimental bands out there. I mean, they've done everything from straight-up post rock to jazz to neo-classical to metal-ish stuff (well, heavy; they're yet to go down the full-on metal route) to blues to acoustic to electronic music and beyond. Name a genre and I'll name a Muse song with at least elements of it. They're no stranger to trying something different, and this is just another experiment in what will undoubtedly be another varied and all-encompassing album. I mean, of all the bands you could level that accusation at, Muse quite possibly makes the least sense.

[minieme007]

They never said it was the new heavy metal, they said it was like heavy metal...

[Dynamight]

Everyone, grab your torches and pitchforks and let's burn the infidels.

[Ancient-Mariner]

Well this is just stupid, annoys when people cant just accept an wide array of music as im a big skrillex fan and a huge metal head but in no way is Skrillex a replacement, he's just playing different music that happens to sound great to me. Oh and can someone explain what a "circle of death" is? cant say i've been in one of those...

[TimTheWizard]

sloppyjoe24 wrote:

I lost some respect for Muse just now. But gained just a little because they're trying dubstep with instruments. Not a laptop. At least give them credit for that, because nobody else has really tried it...for good reason I might add.

coughcough RADIOHEAD coughcough KING OF LIMBS grrmmbl

[craaig]

UG, Muse did NOT say 'Dubstep is new Metal', that's completely misleading. It just says how they likened the audiences at gigs of both genres.

[PapaZappa13]

uh...Excuse me?

[Iced Earth9]

"Unsustainable" is the right word.

[kozmo4200]

TheBabySnatcher wrote:

ironman316 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar. You're all just butt hurt because the genre you love isn't mainstream and lacks the potency to capture widespread attention. I like metal as much as dubstep, but the way a lot of you elitist benders dismiss electronic music as somehow inferior to other music is laughably ignorant.

you are an idiot.

Uh, no dude. Aaron has it exactly right. You're the idiot.


+1 Aaron's statement is spot on.

Morons...

[Scourge441]

People who don't know what they're talking about need to stop using Skrillex as a prime example of dubstep.

That goes for the anti-dubstep crowd AND for Muse. Listen to Burial instead.

[Van Guff]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[CoolMcAwesome]

Dubstep =/= metal. Also, mosh pits originated at hardcore punk shows, and metal heads adopted them.

[abialystok]

the question whether muse could possibly suck more than they suck now finaly comes to an answer

[Set-Abominae]

 Scourge441  wrote:

People who don't know what they're talking about need to stop using Skrillex as a prime example of dubstep.

That goes for the anti-dubstep crowd AND for Muse. Listen to Burial instead.

THANK YOU.

Someone else PLEASE say that dubstep takes no talent to create. While I'm at it, all you idiots who think the same thing about rap and hip hop should comment as well, so we know which opinions to never consider.

[metalxsymphony]

THere is a band called Pin Panelle that did a Skrillex cover using a full band, live keyboards and other electronics. They also do dubstep ish music, but it's all rock instruments and then some.

[Insanity ninja]

I like metal, I also like dubstep.

But at least with metal I can tell the difference between songs.

Metal will always be metal. //quote Tenacious D

[Insanity ninja]

LaughingWater2 wrote:

Im sorry Muse, You've Lost a fan. If you had experimented with ANY other form of electronica you'd still have my respect. theres house, trance, hardcore, hardstyle, psy-trance, ambient, krautrock, techno, trip hop, drum & bass, Uk garage, Euro house, big beat, acid house and out of that you choose dubstep, WHY??? theres no other explaination other than selling out

You forgot Gabber.

[dethmetal999]

I think UG is trolling us...

[Ben Baczenas]

lol, so many metal heads getting angry over nothing. If you don't like Muse (or care what they have to say) why did you click on this story?

I'm not a big fan of Dubstep, but Muse knows what they are doing. They are doing it because THEY like the heaviness it can bring a song, not to feed the "mainstream." Muse does whatever they want... Do you really think the last record was for the mainstream? It had a 3 part symphony...

I'm open to changes in music. Bring on the negative ratings!

[lpcustom325]

i just lost some respect for them...dubstep will NEVER replace heavy metal....its time for Tenacious D to add a new verse...

[link no1]

Muse =/= Metal, so I won't be taking their opinion on what is 'new metal'.

This is also ultimate-guitar. I have nothing against electronic music (though I hate dubstep) but I don't come here to see news about it, especially 2 in one day.

Besides, dubstep is being massivially used in media. It's in every genre of music, it's in TV shows, adverts and in most places it doesn't belong (metal radios/TV channels)
I honestly don't see it lasting that long in the mainstream as judging by past genres, when even TV advertisements are using the genre, it declines not long after.

[Turi_the_Dragon]

This article gave me cancer

[fordak]

Skrillex and Dubstep is f*cking up music.. Dubstep already screwed up Korn and Muse is nex in row ( sry for my bad Englush)

[bluespectre117]

hehe I know you guys are gonna troll my comment... but If you investigate some of the characteristics of the DUBSTEP, you'll get impressed.

I concord with lastest comments, Dubstep is not gonna replace metal, neither is going to be one of it's arms. But it's a mind-blowing genre that the most of the people don't understand because they think it's "pure noise"... but you'll surprise with the math that contains this music.

DON'T BELIEVE ME?

Search for DUBSTEP in Wikipedia

Hey guy's... I like progressive rock and I really like to hear GOOD music. I Know about Tempos, rare compasses, and that stuff. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT DUBSTEP has it's musical atractions.

Now, for now on, there's gonna be some bands including digital effects in their music... and it's gonna sound like Metalstep or Rockstep, whatever will it be called. but don't be so closed guys! music is on the variety!

Long live Rock & Metal!

[Shiookami]

For this article, i hate Muse even more. If you want dubstep, have your FUCKING DUBSTEP, BUT DON'T INSULT MY GENRE TO DO IT! METAL IS NOT FUCKING ELECTRIC MUSIC

[MrDo0m]

It amazes me how uptight people are about genres. Why do people try to defend or attack genres (or celebs/rockstars for that matter). It's not like they/it gives a shit about you.

[bluespectre117]

PD: Skrillex and dubstep are not commercial music. Please use reason and get informated

[tmv91]

no dubstep is not the new metal. it is the new disco. people go to raves to dance like people went to disco clubs to dance. its mostly about the drugs, and people are going to hate it in a few years, wondering why they ever bought into it.

[bluespectre117]

kozmo4200 wrote:

TheBabySnatcher wrote:

ironman316 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar. You're all just butt hurt because the genre you love isn't mainstream and lacks the potency to capture widespread attention. I like metal as much as dubstep, but the way a lot of you elitist benders dismiss electronic music as somehow inferior to other music is laughably ignorant.

you are an idiot.

Uh, no dude. Aaron has it exactly right. You're the idiot.


+1 Aaron's statement is spot on.


Morons...

THAT THE ACTITUDE! AARON! you've got the spirit of music ;D

[XAnnoDomineX]

I'm loving all the hate from everyone...I personally welcome the change in their music style. Dubstep isn't for everybody. I don't agree with it being the "new metal" though.

[rockr09]

I like the occasional dubstep, but Skrillex came along (who isn't bad, but I'm not sure how he got so popular) and the genre got over-saturated very quick to the point where it's annoying imo. Everybody wants to get in on the new fad it seems. I hope Muse can pull it off though and bring something fresh and interesting to the table, and not just put random wubs in a song.

[flaphead325]

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.

[bluespectre117]

rockr09 wrote:

I like the occasional dubstep, but Skrillex came along (who isn't bad, but I'm not sure how he got so popular) and the genre got over-saturated very quick to the point where it's annoying imo. Everybody wants to get in on the new fad it seems. I hope Muse can pull it off though and bring something fresh and interesting to the table, and not just put random wubs in a song.

Anyway, Muse is doing what every good musician would do: Improve thheir music.

What about The Mars Volta?? they have new styles every disc they launch

What about U2?? their style is different from their starts!

What about Pink Floyd? what about Queen? wasn't their last releases different from their last anytime?

learn improvement!

[Acacia69]

Muse is the new elevator music, says me.

[bluespectre117]

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.

YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA

[Mikey-Division]

Guitars>dial-up connection

[Lemoninfluence]

I can sort of see where they're coming from. When I heard Korn's dubstep-y song with skrillex I got interested in the possibility of a new-ish sound for people to explore. I haven't seen anyone do it to the extent that I was hoping for but after giving dubstep itself a chance, I found a lot of it shares the same sort of harsh aggression that metal does.

Yes other genres have aggression in them and other genres are more closely linked with dubstep than metal is, but that's missing the point. The point for me is that it's a spiritual relative (successor is the wrong word imo) of metal and punk and all the other genres you want to associate with it, because it gives people another outlet for their creativity. Another outlet where they can pour the anger or whatever other motivation you can come up with and make it into something other people can relate to.

Something else like metal, but not metal.

because metal sucks, obviously :p

[Tariso]

I call it a joke, look at Matt's trollface in that picture

[kozmo4200]

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.


YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA

No.

[IUseAPurplePick]

Reading through these comments makes me realize why I never read through comments. Most of you are so blatantly arrogant and elitist that it makes me sick. One single comparison to metal or what you guys consider "real music" and you flip shit. Music is about freedom of expression without any limits, freeing yourself from a slate. What you guys practice is politics, making sure every single band gets put down in the correct genre and sub genre. One single comparison gets made about metal and everyone instantly acts as if blasphemy has occurred.

[bluespectre117]

 Lemoninfluence  wrote:

I can sort of see where they're coming from. When I heard Korn's dubstep-y song with skrillex I got interested in the possibility of a new-ish sound for people to explore. I haven't seen anyone do it to the extent that I was hoping for but after giving dubstep itself a chance, I found a lot of it shares the same sort of harsh aggression that metal does.

Yes other genres have aggression in them and other genres are more closely linked with dubstep than metal is, but that's missing the point. The point for me is that it's a spiritual relative (successor is the wrong word imo) of metal and punk and all the other genres you want to associate with it, because it gives people another outlet for their creativity. Another outlet where they can pour the anger or whatever other motivation you can come up with and make it into something other people can relate to.

Something else like metal, but not metal.

because metal sucks, obviously :p

Long Live Metal

Long Live Rock

Long Live Dubstep

but if you can't process metal in your head.. i'm sorry, it's your problem.

AND THERE'S THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PROCESS DUBSTEP IN THEIR HEADS ... as complex as jazz and you don't even investigate.

[kozmo4200]

I have tried to listen to dubstep. My friends that make it have showed me multiple different artists and such, i just dont like it and dont understand why it is being mentioned in the same sentence as metal. Metal has emotions, if what im reading about dubstep is true, that its mathmatical, then it has no emotion. What about math is emotional? am i supposed to learn binary code to truely understand it?

[bluespectre117]

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.


YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA


No.

HA! Intelectual decrease detected

[XAnnoDomineX]

bluespectre117 wrote:

Anyway, Muse is doing what every good musician would do: Improve thheir music.

What about The Mars Volta?? they have new styles every disc they launch

What about U2?? their style is different from their starts!

What about Pink Floyd? what about Queen? wasn't their last releases different from their last anytime?

learn improvement!

Exactlly!

[silly hats]

I'm sure Dubstep wouldn't be as obnoxious it was its own little thing and not crammed into everything like it is nowadays.

I

[AL_Dorado]

goddam it muse, you have a pretty sweet deal being the only maodern prog band with mainstream radio play and you go and gay it up by cashing in on a shitty overexposed trend genre. and before everyone says MUSE ARENT PROG FUCK YOU FOR NOT LIKING DREAMTHEATAAAR", i mean in that they're prog compared to nicki minaj or taylor swift or whatever else the kids listen to these days. they were one of the last bastions of musical experimentation that kids who listen to pop were exposed to

[AidanBK]

jordo246 wrote:

I'm sick of every band I like doing this experimental shit, why can't they stick with what they're good at, people will complain now matter what they do but at least if it's what they're good at it will sound better than some random dubstep shit that needs to disappear.

sounds like a fun world, i cant wait for the wall pt2 by pink floyd!!! or how about paranoid robot by radiohead where they play the same songs but its all a semitone higher!! yeaaaah that'll be AWESOME

[gateway01]

I'm gonna clear this s**t up.

Dubstep producers don't just "press play" at a concert. They actually re-create the music with turntables and pads and all this crazy s**t.

Having said, I don't like when a band sticks to one style. Muse is the epitome of what I like. They make amazing music and step outside their comfort zone. I definitely like bands like Rush who stick to the what they like, but it gets too boring after so long.

[le screamist]

Dubstep is not the new metal, Djent however is the new Dubstep - its bizarre how these trends seem to just spring up over night.

[patrickmarkd]

ohh muse you trolls, also im not even a metal head i just hate muse with a burning passion of wicked hell fire,truly a stain on music, "oh Matt you should definitely sing that exact same vocal melody repeatedly, in every muse song ever, people never tire of falsetto".....dear god the man's a pioneer of music. no,...no he is not. I CAST YOU OUT MUSE!

[6-String_Madman]

Fact : Muse is trolling!

[Ironpriest]

I do like the idea of using real instruments, that's pretty cool...

[OJ12]

This band must burn! oohh god of metal punish this people that only bad things bring, Rob Halford hep us!

[eizetjuh]

It's funny how people always tend to stand against conservative opinions (mostly christian style points of view), but as soon as there are people trying new things in music they all act the same as the conservatives whose opinion is bashed all the time (not that I disagree with bashing conservative opinions & lifestyle).

[chiefmegadeth]

If anything dubstep is the new "rap" no talented wannabe musicians. Taking other peoples songs and just using samples and fart noises over them.
Muse sound like theyre on drugs. Wake up idiots...
Stop trying to ruin Real Musicians with that garbage tween wave/ dubshit bullshit

[kozmo4200]

bluespectre117 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.


YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA


No.

HA! Intelectual decrease detected

For refusing to search dubstep?

[GenerationKILL]

Yep, "dubstep" the sound of an 80s computer printer is the new heavy metal.

Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham and Bon Scott all just rolled over in their graves.

Muse is great, but their lead singer should just keep his mouth shut and enjoy Chris Robinson's leftovers.

[pokerhappy]

Seems like people have forgotten that UG just makes up the things that bands "say."

[Novationband]

I'm so tired of every band nowadays trying to be "experimental" and bridge the gap between electronic music and rock...just shut the **** up and play your guitars like instruments, not computers

[Anjohl]

Dubstep is the new facetious marketing term for techno, aka dance music.

[Dimeoflage]

Lost all respect for Muse.(and i loved them)

[zn-1]

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.

YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA

Lol, actually, you can and what is searching for dubstep on a user-created database going to do? Go back to Skrillex and suck on his Batarang.

[Duffman123]

I'm pretty sure this album is going to destroy any love I have for Muse. Jumping on a bandwagon is a bloody stupid idea, album is going to sound dated in a year.

[baumaxx1]

Eww.

1. The Prodigy and Pendulum have been doing this for years performing with live musicians and interacting with the crowd. DJ sets are shit boring. Their sound is also massive.

2. Dubstep is more like the new Black Metal. Try and find a more annoying synth sound in any other genre. THe only good Dubstep I've heard can be easily categorised as slowed Drum and Bass.

[rockguitar316]

dubstep is gay

[robbikinz]

Muse knows jack shit about music. they just want to be radiohead

[SocksAndTrees]

Raven_Flight wrote:

AnnihilationUK wrote:

It's not really music though, is it?
My life will be the over the day I hear "aw I heard this new Dubstep song, it goes like this"

BGZZOOOOO BRLRLRLRLR ZZZZZ ZPZPZP BZHOOOOO



Who are you say what is music and what is not? That you don't like doesn't mean it's not music. The definition of what is music broadens as time passes by and people start experimenting with new sounds. And I guess dubstep isn't even THAT far away from what an average person would consider a musical piece.

With that logic any sound is considered music.
I could bang a spoon on my wall and call it 'music' that doesn't mean it is.

[corza334]

Metal = Metal
Dubstep = Dubstep
Dubstep =/= Metal

[strat0blaster]

I love how this article's comments section has turned into a bunch of people whining about how anything that a band makes which isn't like their last album is absolute shit.

What exactly the hell is wrong with you people that makes you want to hear the same album over and over? Why not just keep their back catalog, and listen to the damned record you want when you're in the mood for it?

[TheExterminator]

SocksAndTrees wrote:
I could bang a spoon on my wall and call it 'music' that doesn't mean it is.

.. Spoons are recognized as a legitimate instrument.

You can make music with a lot of things. You've never heard people using wine glasses as instruments? Washboards?

Sounds make music. Instruments make sounds. Anything that makes a sound that can be used to make music can be an instrument, even if it's not a 'normal' one like a guitar or drum. You can make music by knocking your hands on your desk, you could make good music if you manage to be creative about it.

I dislike Dubstep as much as the next guy, but claiming it isn't music tells me you are rather ignorant of what music is.

[Dr1313feelgood]

muse ****ing sucks so does dubstep **** all this shit im going to listen to pantera some real ****ing metal

[AcePilot]

Matt Bellamy, shut the **** up.

[motorizer]

Dr1313feelgood wrote:

muse ****ing sucks so does dubstep **** all this shit im going to listen to pantera some real ****ing metal

God dammit YES!

[motorizer]

TheExterminator wrote:

SocksAndTrees wrote:
I could bang a spoon on my wall and call it 'music' that doesn't mean it is.

.. Spoons are recognized as a legitimate instrument.

You can make music with a lot of things. You've never heard people using wine glasses as instruments? Washboards?

Sounds make music. Instruments make sounds. Anything that makes a sound that can be used to make music can be an instrument, even if it's not a 'normal' one like a guitar or drum. You can make music by knocking your hands on your desk, you could make good music if you manage to be creative about it.

I dislike Dubstep as much as the next guy, but claiming it isn't music tells me you are rather ignorant of what music is.

TheExterminator wrote:

SocksAndTrees wrote:
I could bang a spoon on my wall and call it 'music' that doesn't mean it is.

.. Spoons are recognized as a legitimate instrument.

You can make music with a lot of things. You've never heard people using wine glasses as instruments? Washboards?

Sounds make music. Instruments make sounds. Anything that makes a sound that can be used to make music can be an instrument, even if it's not a 'normal' one like a guitar or drum. You can make music by knocking your hands on your desk, you could make good music if you manage to be creative about it.

I dislike Dubstep as much as the next guy, but claiming it isn't music tells me you are rather ignorant of what music is.

Shut the **** up ..

[motorizer]

I wish someone would ****ing kick this retard in the damn mouth with a steel toe workboot ...

[Wouldify]

I lost all the respect I had towards this band

[Darthkp]

Is it sad that I've started looking forward to the "flame war of the week" on UG?

[mouna666]

F*ck. Off. Nuff said.

[ninfan200]

people need to open their minds up more

[Most_Triumphant]

funkadelicblues wrote:

Dubstep sounds like Transformers doing the nasty

Lol This.

[Ibeanez]

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar.

Flawed logic turns a debate about what is music into whether or not it is hard to make dubstep. Sit me down at your computer. I won't make a damn thing. I don't play computer. I'm a musician.

[SOAD_SoG]

Muse talking about a genre they don't know anything about.
Its idiotic.

[saint_berzerker]

That sh*t is the opposite of everything that Metal has stood for in the last 4 decades.

REAL instruments...GRIT...Do it yourself...Power...Anger...

Dubstep is a different form of music...but it ain't metal.

[420Tool]

Muse are a talented band but there new stuff doesn't rock enough for me. If you want to hear a truly talented band that incorporates technology into genius musicianship than check out the Australian band Dead Letter Circus.

[10bag]

metal is the new metal

[Miyagi84]

 N-D  wrote:

"We went to see Skrillex and we went, 'F--k, it's so heavy!' It was like a full metal gig – they had circles of death. People were moshing. I hadn't seen a reaction like that to electronic music before."

This occurs at The Prodigy concerts since the late 90s.

Not that that is such a good thing... I mean, to each his/her own, but I think Moshing is stupid... I'm not saying I don't like to go crazy at Metal shows I just don't understand the point of a moshpit. You can go crazy without trying to mess somebody up.

[djc707]

The moshpit has moved from guitars and gone towards the laptop.

Well that's just no fun. Look up the meaning behind "iMember" by Stray from the Path.

[KNEESLAPPINGTON]

aeiou is the new penus.

[Kueller917]

Ok the title took this way more over the top than it needed to be. Look at the interview, they said it was comparable to a metal concert, and got a more metal-like reaction than many electronic genres. They never said it WAS metal, but heavy electronic CAN get heavier than some of the lighter forms of metal so the crowds can react.

Also in the interview they said they were inspired to recreate that sound with THEIR OWN INSTRUMENTS. If anything they're trying to prove you don't have to be a macbook DJ like Skrillex to make his style. It can be done with the more traditional instruments (or as traditional as you'd call Bellamy's effects).

If you're really going to disregard everything that sounds like dubstep and doesn't have standard guitars that's going to leave you very close-minded to music. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who disliked the Unsustainable and disliked Survival even more.

[TheExterminator]

Miyagi84 wrote:

 N-D  wrote:

"We went to see Skrillex and we went, 'F--k, it's so heavy!' It was like a full metal gig – they had circles of death. People were moshing. I hadn't seen a reaction like that to electronic music before."

This occurs at The Prodigy concerts since the late 90s.

Not that that is such a good thing... I mean, to each his/her own, but I think Moshing is stupid... I'm not saying I don't like to go crazy at Metal shows I just don't understand the point of a moshpit. You can go crazy without trying to mess somebody up.

You don't go into a mosh pit trying to mess somebody up. You have either got the wrong idea about moshing, or you have been to some shitty shows with shitty pits.

[Kueller917]

TimTheWizard wrote:
Radiohead succesfully made "organic" (using instruments) dubstep

Root Beer wrote:
Even when Radiohead incorporated dubstep into their sound it only SORT OF worked.

Wait wait, when did Radiohead make dubstep?

[)ThunderhorsE(]

I value muse's opinion on metal about as much as I do that of Adele. they aren't metal. muse is a sham. Symphony X is metal. skrillex is a pathetic emo kid who had too much time alone with his laptop.

[Xplorer58]

Dubstep is not heavy... wtf? People who go to dubstep concerts do not mosh, they just show off their sheer stupidity.

[baumaxx1]

There are way better live acts than Skrillex. DJ sets bore the hell out of me.

Meanwhile, Pendulum, The Prodigy, Empire of the Sun, Bloody Beetroots, Does it Offend You Yeah? all play with live bands and Empire have some pretty cool visuals going on. All energetic and fun live shows.

What we need is not a revolution for rock to be more like electro, but electro to be more like rock. Otherwise you have festivals full of sterile live acts that you need drugs to enjoy (i.e. Planet Cream). Guetta hit play on a CD he prepared earlier and didn't say a word to the crowd. Above and Beyond were the only reason I went and I did enjoy their set... why? They may have just been mixing, more than what Guetta did anyway, but at least they had a visual show and spoke to the crowd and told stories on the screen.

[Lapidus]

I don't really see the point...Ok, Skrillex shows are heavy, so were Depeche Mode and Prodigy back in the days, but why call it the new metal??Dubstep sound is much too specific to last, it's already dated.

[redkingd]

WHY?!?!

[franthecure]

"you can´t kill the metal. the metal will live on" -jack black

[hak_hap]

everyone who doesnt see this being another way of muse's frontman to be ironic and state something to see if people really start discussing it seriouly and angrily is an idiot.

Muse is an awesome band and if this statement was serious the new album would probably feature more "dubstep" than a 30 second part in ONE song. They use metal a lot and they have some crazy distorted guitar parts and solos on the upcoming record.

see the irony or go listen to aerosmith...geeze

[shredman123]

"Dubstep is like the new heavy metal." Thing is you need skill to play metal.

[RocknRory]

I used to dislike EDM, and I heavily disliked Dubstep until I went to a small local show in Hollywood at the El Cid. It was awesome and after it I loved it.

It's great that everyone has different music tastes. Muse has been one of my favorite bands for a while, and I get their comment about Dubstep. It should be interesting to hear their instrument take on the genre. Personally I'm glad people don't like the same music, otherwise music would obviously be boring.

Of course this article will get a lot of hate because the websites called Ultimate-GUITAR. Perhaps Muse shouldn't have called it New Metal, but rather just commented on how they were surprised it was a lot more energetic and heavy then they thought.

Nonetheless I'm stoked on the new album, they are amazing live, I would see them again.

[Wiesel_1]

Dubstep the new heavy metal? No.

But when I hear "We created something that's dubsteppy, but we wanted to see if we could do it with real instruments." than I am clearly interested in what they came up with. Maybe something like this?

[SoulShredder]

Pretentious level = Muse.

[GuitarQ33r0]

hak_hap wrote:

everyone who doesnt see this being another way of muse's frontman to be ironic and state something to see if people really start discussing it seriouly and angrily is an idiot.

Muse is an awesome band and if this statement was serious the new album would probably feature more "dubstep" than a 30 second part in ONE song. They use metal a lot and they have some crazy distorted guitar parts and solos on the upcoming record.

see the irony or go listen to aerosmith...geeze

If aerosmith is your idea of metal then there is no help for you. And just because distortion is used doesn't make it metal.

[pajathetrut]

Who gives a **** about a shitty retarded band turning to dubstep?

[hak_hap]

GuitarQ33r0 wrote:

hak_hap wrote:

everyone who doesnt see this being another way of muse's frontman to be ironic and state something to see if people really start discussing it seriouly and angrily is an idiot.

Muse is an awesome band and if this statement was serious the new album would probably feature more "dubstep" than a 30 second part in ONE song. They use metal a lot and they have some crazy distorted guitar parts and solos on the upcoming record.

see the irony or go listen to aerosmith...geeze
If aerosmith is your idea of metal then there is no help for you. And just because distortion is used doesn't make it metal.

I didnt say Aerosmith were metal I just mentioned them as a shitty band

[perko1]

*Remembers the day when they played played Back In Black with Jet.*
That was a good day.
Sadly though, well its already been said^

[LeChiffre]

You're kidding me right

[weston1004]

i like some of muse's music that I've heard, but what they are saying here is absolute crap. dubstep will never be "metal" sorry.

[hak_hap]

one good thing for a die hard muse fan like could be tht if all us-americans start hating (because us-american youngsters cannot handle bands that evolve and change) muse will be less hip and become more unknown again. YAY!

[hak_hap]

Skodward714 wrote:

I admit, I kind of like Skrillex, so I'm interested to see how this album turns out. I'm all for bands trying new things.

WHY do people dislike comments like this one, WHATS YOUR PROBLEM? seriously

[DaniArrow]

rock or metal will never die. the pure styles anyway. about korn... i don't know. maybe dead already. but stuff like deep purple, black sabbath, pantera... unkillable.

[SweepSDMF]

People still think that dubstep is created magically by pushing play on a laptop. I am ashamed of some of you elitist douchebags.

[wrongfunction]

Keep an open mind guys, Muse will NEVER release pure shit. They got this covered.

[calger14]

Gayyyyy

[hak_hap]

calger14 wrote:

Gayyyyy

"Gayyyyy" that's gay!

[Paraffinity]

I'm not a big fan of Dubstep, but I reaaaally don't mind if Muse want to take something from that ballpark... I thought the Resistance was pretty good for what it was personally.

"Survival" I just pretend is a joke, even if it's not, it's better that way.

[A7x!foREVer]

I didn't think muse could find a way to suck any more...
I was wrong

[AlErDz5]

Who the hell cares what Muse has to say about metal? Are they suddenly an authority?

[Duongy]

no, metal is metal. dubstep is shit

[link no1]

SweepSDMF wrote:

People still think that dubstep is created magically by pushing play on a laptop.

It's called 'exaggeration'

Though sadly it isn't that far from the truth...

[FERAL1975]

Low Profile wrote:

I don't like where this is going. There first song that they posted on the internet for this album that had Dubstep in it I thought ruined the song since it came right the hell out of nowhere and seemed just to be thrown in and I did not think it went very well with the rest of the song which sounded pretty good.

This seemed alot like a when Radiohead released Kid A and many people where shocked at that it was mostly electronic music and was completely different then Ok Computer, but it was a damn good album because they experimented very well with electronic music and also had a few songs where they blended there more Rock sounding music with there new Electronic music very well and in the end it may of sounded completely different but it still sounded like Radiohead. Muse on the other hand from what I seen just threw Dubstep right in there did not make a attempt to blend there style of music with Dubstep which would make that song better rather then just having a normal sounding Muse song and then BAM ****ing Dubstep.

Difference there is it also had Thom Yorke singing badly on purpose because he didn't think melody was 'cool'.

[Woffelz]

We have a like/dislike bar now? Why?!

[Philmore222]

I wish I could be as hardcore as all of you! Lemme try. wahhh sobb sob this isnt tru musik

[rayven1lk]

Obvious bellamy troll is obvious xD

[Gortorek]

Well, there goes all of my respect for muse.

[seabear70]

Am I the only one who listens to DubStep and thinks, "Elevator Music from Hell?"

[3Y3arsHat3]

wow this is tho most comments i've seen on a UG article lol...i would like to hit all the muse players over the head with a Randy Rhodes guitar. These idiots are ridiculous

[I got the boot]

Seeing as(let's be honest) Muse aren't actually metal themselves, I don't think it's really their place to say what's metal and what isn't.

[GameSkate]

Of course, and if you never directed movie you can't say any critics words about this crap you watched yesterday. If you doing this anyway, you should get cancer and die.

[Cardbored]

HARTATTACK69 wrote:

"the majority of Dubstep is a better than the majority of Metal" said nobody ever

That was a really funny comment that I decided to quote it for no reason.

[poisonousmetal]

The ONLY guys that can pull off experimenting with different styles are really mostly instrumentalists like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Andy Timmons etc. I highly doubt that these who really aren't that good to begin with, should be putting stuff that they really can't do. I hate dupstep and all that but come on man! I feel sorry that these guys could be the next trend if they keep that.

The new Metal cause you saw moshing? I guess you've never seen Slayer shows.

[calstercal]

Korn did this, and now i refuse to call them Korn. Im all for bands experimenting, but dubstep is ruining bands, not moving them forward. All it is is a recording of 2 ducks arguing.

[Zell182]

The only way Dubstep is like Metal is in the way that the 'bass drop' is like the breakdowns in metalcore - heavy, boring and repetitive.

[watcher6]

come ooooon, dubstep is metal? dubstep isn't even music...

[SDistad]

These ****heads need to get shot for even thinking that shit is anything related to heavy metal!

[ThatOldMixtape]

There is way too much hate in this. I think he's pretty justified in his assessment. It makes sense. Metal was originally just a trend which gathered fans from subcultures by shifting a lot of conventions of how mainstream music was created at the time. Back then, it involved shredding of the guitar and breakdowns. Nowadays, the big shift is to not use instruments at all and even break away from 4/4 timing by using "drops". It's still relatively heavy so that's where the comparison can be made. He's not saying that dubstep is replacing metal, simply that it is following trend in its popularity.

[Tokai09]

What colour crack are they smoking? In all seriousness though, Dubstep will never become Metal since it is it's own genre.

[Grimwade]

Origin Of Symmetry, nuff said. Lets leave it at that bois

[danielblau1]

So we've heard a few seconds of a song off the album. Why don't we listen to the album first, and then review it??

[Metal_Mesh]

Metal will never die.

[-LAW-]

Naive.

[Suckerpunchme!]

Glad I don't listen to Muse or Skrillex.

[frmeyer]

I only come to Ultimate Guitar to read the hilariously cynical comments from the guitar and metal hipsters about Green Day and Muse.

[$hithappen$16]

I hate articles like this mainly because it brings out all the butt-hurt metal elitists.
"SOMEONE COMPAIRED ANOTHER GENRE TO METAL???? THOSE BASTARDS!! BURN IN HELL!!" Chill the f*ck out. He's just comparing the similarities between crowd reactions at a Skrillex concert and those of a metal concert. When he says it's "the new metal" he's simply summing up his observations via metaphor. Metal is metal and Dub-step/Electronica is Dub-step/Electronica. It's not something to freak out about. And if they like Skrillex and want to incorporate that into their sound as an experiment then why not? It's their music they can do what they want with it. Musicians get bored. They want to change sh*t up every so often. Personally, I see no problem with that.

[FenderStrat2011]

Better not say I like Skrillex, Nero, Knife Party, Borgore, or Modestep, or I'll get torn to pieces by the ultimate Guitar elites. All 50 of them.

[Nerdpunx]

No... just, no....

[bluespectre117]

Ibeanez wrote:

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar.

Flawed logic turns a debate about what is music into whether or not it is hard to make dubstep. Sit me down at your computer. I won't make a damn thing. I don't play computer. I'm a musician.

You're a bad musician boy.... if you say digital music isn't music... you're clearly lost inside your dumb

[bluespectre117]

watcher6 wrote:

come ooooon, dubstep is metal? dubstep isn't even music...

dubstep is music... metal is music.

you're a piece of shit

[Iommianity]

If you make music, you're a musician. If you play music, and feel superior for it, you're probably a guitar player.

[bluespectre117]

seabear70 wrote:

Am I the only one who listens to DubStep and thinks, "Elevator Music from Hell?"

No.. we're 2.. I like progressive music, jazz, rock, metal, and dubstep.

you know why?

all these music has a lot of tricky things that make itself complicated to produce..

emotions, mathematical patterns.

IT'S MIND-BLOWING MAN!!!!

[bluespectre117]

zn-1 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.

YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA

Lol, actually, you can and what is searching for dubstep on a user-created database going to do? Go back to Skrillex and suck on his Batarang.

I could explain it to your single neuron but it wouldn't get it.

[bluespectre117]

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.


YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA


No.

HA! Intelectual decrease detected

For refusing to search dubstep?

haha, you wouldn't get it.

[Kueller917]

poisonousmetal wrote:
The new Metal cause you saw moshing? I guess you've never seen Slayer shows.

They never said it was the new metal though.

[kozmo4200]

bluespectre117 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

kozmo4200 wrote:

bluespectre117 wrote:

flaphead325 wrote:

Meta1H3ad wrote:

Dubstep and metal are 2 completely different genres of music....Metal actually requires musical talent to make while with dubstep all you need is a computer and you're in. It's just a trend that won't last long at all...so f*ck dubstep!

And a movie clip.


YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG! I could believe you if it was reaggaeton, but you can't sit on a PC and make dubstep just like that!

I REPEAT

SEARCH FOR DUBSTEP IN WIKIPEDIA


No.

HA! Intelectual decrease detected

For refusing to search dubstep?

haha, you wouldn't get it.

Stupid fuuck

[Less01]

sloppyjoe24 wrote:

I lost some respect for Muse just now. But gained just a little because they're trying dubstep with instruments. Not a laptop. At least give them credit for that, because nobody else has really tried it...for good reason I might add.

Thom Yorke recorded kinda of a dubsteppy album (his solo effort, The Eraser, in 2006). In 2006! Before James Blake, before Skrillex. It had electronica, dub and jazz. He, then, in 2010, played that whole album live in a US tour with Flea. With real instruments.

Muse is doing nothing new. Is copycating. Again.

[Kueller917]

Less01 wrote:

sloppyjoe24 wrote:

I lost some respect for Muse just now. But gained just a little because they're trying dubstep with instruments. Not a laptop. At least give them credit for that, because nobody else has really tried it...for good reason I might add.

Thom Yorke recorded kinda of a dubsteppy album (his solo effort, The Eraser, in 2006). In 2006! Before James Blake, before Skrillex. It had electronica, dub and jazz. He, then, in 2010, played that whole album live in a US tour with Flea. With real instruments.

Muse is doing nothing new. Is copycating. Again.

The Eraser wasn't dubstep in the slightest.

[symmetryerased]

They're just being sarcastic.

[Less01]

Kueller917 wrote:
The Eraser wasn't dubstep in the slightest.

I didn't say it was pure dubstep, it was dubsteppy in a way as it had some influence by the style, but Thom mixed it with other influences and his own style.

Thom basically did the album alone (with help of producer Nigel Godrich) on his laptop. The tour played the album in full, with real instruments.

My point is that what Bellamy is saying isn't new in the slightest.

[Kueller917]

Less01 wrote:

Kueller917 wrote:
The Eraser wasn't dubstep in the slightest.

I didn't say it was pure dubstep, it was dubsteppy in a way as it had some influence by the style, but Thom mixed it with other influences and his own style.

Thom basically did the album alone (with help of producer Nigel Godrich) on his laptop. The tour played the album in full, with real instruments.

My point is that what Bellamy is saying isn't new in the slightest.

It had electronic influences, yes, but I'm not seeing how those are dubstep. At least no more than a lot of other electronic artists.
And either way what Thom Yorke was doing wasn't new in the slightest either. He's a fantastic musician and made a fantastic solo album but bringing electronic sounds with "real" instruments (a laptop can be considered a real instrument though) is nothing new. It all depends more on how you do it, not what you do, which is what makes Radiohead great because when they try out an influence they incorporate it perfectly.

[Mister A.J.]

Haha, no. Metal will be replaced when metal is dead, and so far, I believe the genre is thriving, not dying.

[Casanova Fall]

PLEEEEEASE stop with the dubstep hate! I play heavy metal almost all day on my bass and guitar, and I'm a screamer, but, I also enjoy making electronic music. It's not emotionless like most people like to think! I put heart and soul into all music I make, whether it be with a guitar or computer. And, fun fact, I use a keyboard! Last time I checked, that's an instrument!

[[travis]]

Having a laptop does not make you a musician. Dubstep is not music. Skrillex sucks big time! An Apple is not an instrument. Period.

[Kueller917]

[travis] wrote:

Having a laptop does not make you a musician. Dubstep is not music. Skrillex sucks big time! An Apple is not an instrument. Period.

A musician is someone who makes music. Skrillex makes music (as much as I hate his music, it's still music).
A musical instrument is a tool that you can use to make music. A laptop or DAW can be used to make music. It can be considered a musical instrument.

[Aaron!!]

Ibeanez wrote:

Aaron!! wrote:

To everyone who thinks dubstep isn't 'real' music: I'll sit you down in front of a computer with a DAW, give you a set of plug-ins and processors and tell you to make a dubstep song, it's not difficult after all right? WRONG. Learning how to produce, mix and master a song via a computer takes equally as long as learning the guitar.

Flawed logic turns a debate about what is music into whether or not it is hard to make dubstep. Sit me down at your computer. I won't make a damn thing. I don't play computer. I'm a musician.

If you spent less time trying to sound like a smart ass you'll see I was talking about MAKING music, which can be done via a computer and synthesizers just like on a guitar. You're exactly the kind of close-minded elitist I'm on about.

[Braykah]

For the last time, no, no, NO, infinite times no. A computer-made piece can't ever compare to music made with actual instruments, which for fact takes a hell lot more experience, skill and feeling than pushing the "play" button on a computer to replay a pre-made digital track, and that is why dubstep is never going to replace metal or any other music composed by string, percussive, brass, etc, instruments.

[Archer250]

Well Muse can go **** themselves.