'GN'R Finish Chinese Democracy' Report

Eddie Trunk host of "Friday Night Rocks" in NYC on Q104.3 (NYC, NJ, LI, CT) has updated his blog on Guns N' Roses, about the now infamous Chinese Democracy album. Eddie Trunk has posted the following on his blog:

"I hear the new G&R CD is actually done, but the delay in release is not the bands issues but the label. There is so much money tied up in this record that in today’s business it will be virtually impossible to be profitable, meaning the label might want to sell it off but can not find a buyer since nobody buys CDs anymore. Problem might not be Axl (rose) this time around and might keep this CD in limbo for more years to come. Hopefully it gets resolved."

"I’ve heard rumors that maybe the album was finished, and it was actually handed-in, I guess it could be true. I do find it believable that Geffen or Interscope is the one holding back the album. There have been artists on that label whom have had their albums pushed back and delayed for odd reasons. Resulting in many artists leaving the label, so this is nothing new."

Geffen Records or a representative were not immediately available to comment on the report.

Thanks for the info to Sohood.com.

Comments

[Jeffray85]

Well that sucks, maybe by 2010 then.

[kristoffer.dau]

yea

[Phoenix_24Leas]

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

[OzZY-RuLE5!!!!!]

the album sells or it doesn't. i want to hear this album. they could always make up for the money spent on the album by touring.

[recliner33]

ok, maybe they can blame the label to a certain extend, but it's been how many years? Like come on. If anyone gets the blame for the wait then it should be Axl because he put too much time and money into the album. Axl is giving GNR a bad name. I wish it was like the old days when music wasn't over produced and rock bands put out at least 1 or 2 GOOD albums a year.

[Shabalaba]

Hmmm that may be true, i think due to the amount of press this album has had it would sell pretty well

[sashki]

Yeah, people have been waiting for a long time. Even if it sucks, everyone will buy it. I know I might.

[FRDesign]

I wanna hear it, I don't know if it will be good or not considering its People N Roses. The Guns turned into Revolvers, Velvet ones.

[PUNKfromNORWAY]

I think GnR died when Slash,Duff,Gilby and Matt left.
But I loved the old GnR with Izzy and Steven.
Of course I will hear the new album, but it can't be better than the old stuff

[CryoCarnage]

sashki wrote:

Yeah, people have been waiting for a long time. Even if it sucks, everyone will buy it. I know I might.

same with me.

[duncang]

God damn, just put it out. There's no way to make a profit out of it and the best chance is to get it out as soon as possible for a normal price so as many people as possible will buy it. If they wait longer more and more people will lose interest.

[Carl6661]

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

[petey gunnz]

i wouldnt be the least bit suprised that this album is great.

[ChazBcWarlock]

well ive given up caring, if they release an album i will buy it if they dont i'll get over it

[areese82]

Whatever.

[sowhat360]

This sounds about right to me. I think the album was recorded by the old band (New GNR pt. 1). Some new members probably recorded a couple parts as well. Kind of a crazy situation. I think they should just make a new album and sell it as a double disc. That would be sweet. By the way I saw the new guns n rose pt. 2 in concert and it was damn amazing. better than VR by a lot. That bumblefoot guy is insane on the guitar. fretless guitar baby!!!!

[Kylix]

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

Never heard that one before.

[Nathan_393]

I couldn't care any more. Ever since Appetite came out, this band has been over-rated lame commercial rock. Sorry, but I have never liked them. Axl doesn't deserve fame anymore anyways.

[Riot Act]

Kylix wrote:

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.


Never heard that one before.

Haha, seriously, isnt that how the album got the name?

[BullonParade]

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

thats exactly what i thought. i stopped caring about guns n roses a long time ago, and i doubt ill buy this album if it ever comes out, unless its incredibly good. which i doubt.

[ginjaninja]

do a radiohead?

[nightrain28]

how much has Chinese Democracy cost?...$13 million right? Yah, with all the money bullshit issues, it'll never come out. Call me crazy, but I love Axl Rose, even nowadays. Today's GnR...well thats a different story.

[67_67]

I don't know if that would work. If they did release it online, so many people have been waiting for such a long time that many of them might feel pretty much entitled to take it for free.

[Masterbeefy]

Im 16, and i am left here wondering if my great grandchildren will even see this being released -.- Anyone else think Axel will end up a head in a fishbowl like the people on futurama 100 years into the future? and if so, anyone else reckon he will still be working on releasing the album?

[nightrain28]

67_67 wrote:

I don't know if that would work. If they did release it online, so many people have been waiting for such a long time that many of them might feel pretty much entitled to take it for free.

Yah it wouldn't matter either. Axl will never be hard on funds because of GNR's legacy. God they still sell a shitload of albums.

[Harry Krishner]

Shabalaba wrote:

Hmmm that may be true, i think due to the amount of press this album has had it would sell pretty well

Yeah it would reach # 1 easily. However, it still would lose money. Many people just don't buy CD's anymore. It would do 3 million tops.

[minivia]

this album is goin to be such a bust, with its delay everyone will be expecting somthing like appitite was and i cant really see it happening, still want to hear it tho

[metdethslaythrx]

i think people will definately buy this. i know i would love to hear GNR suck.

[i_am_metalhead]

This album is pure fiction. It doesnt exist. Its fake. Stop believing in it!! It will never be released.

nightrain28 wrote:

67_67 wrote:

I don't know if that would work. If they did release it online, so many people have been waiting for such a long time that many of them might feel pretty much entitled to take it for free.

Yah it wouldn't matter either. Axl will never be hard on funds because of GNR's legacy. God they still sell a shitload of albums.

There are several artists who were just as big as GNR were and they are flat broke now... Axl is a fool for spending all that money on something that will never go anywhere once it actually is released!

[guitarkid2113]

recliner33 wrote:

ok, maybe they can blame the label to a certain extend, but it's been how many years? Like come on. If anyone gets the blame for the wait then it should be Axl because he put too much time and money into the album. Axl is giving GNR a bad name. I wish it was like the old days when music wasn't over produced and rock bands put out at least 1 or 2 GOOD albums a year.

Definitely. Look at all the bands from the sixties like the Beatles. They put out 3 or more records a year. Today there aren't any great minds that are putting out true music.

[red star]

Shabalaba wrote:

Hmmm that may be true, i think due to the amount of press this album has had it would sell pretty well

There's a point where people just won't care anymore... Chinese Democracy reached that point a couple years ago.

[break-me-in]

Haha, good one. =P

Anyway, it's obviously going to sell well no matter what because it's taken so long to release and there's so much press surrounding it.

And what do you mean "no-one by CDs any more"?! I do. Plenty of people do. Why do you think there are so many record stores?

[Guitar Skater]

FRDesign wrote:

I wanna hear it, I don't know if it will be good or not considering its People N Roses. The Guns turned into Revolvers, Velvet ones.

reguardless of how gay that was, it is a very true statement

[Thin Mr. Jones]

Harry Krishner wrote:

Shabalaba wrote:

Hmmm that may be true, i think due to the amount of press this album has had it would sell pretty well


Yeah it would reach # 1 easily. However, it still would lose money. Many people just don't buy CD's anymore. It would do 3 million tops.

Hm... Well, if they sell 3 million CDs for ten bucks a CD, that's $30 million. It took $13 million to record the album, meaning there will be a profit of $17 million.
...
God damn, just release the album already.

[NWP76]

Definitely. Look at all the bands from the sixties like the Beatles. They put out 3 or more records a year. Today there aren't any great minds that are putting out true music.

Is it really fair to compare today's bands to the Beatles? Think about it. Back then the public was just impressed by the fact that someone was making a living playing guitar. Today's audiences are so much harder to entertain because by now we've "heard it all." Today's bands have to play AND write at the top of their ability, and be innovative to even get considerable recognition.

[Pingis_Or_Death]

I thought the head line said GN'Rs Finnish Cheese Democracy :haha:

[LewisMasonx]

ginjaninja wrote:

do a radiohead?

That would be uber-win. But Axl's far too up himself to do that, I reckon. :/

[Ponchibego]

Is it really fair to compare today's bands to the Beatles? Think about it. Back then the public was just impressed by the fact that someone was making a living playing guitar. Today's audiences are so much harder to entertain because by now we've "heard it all." Today's bands have to play AND write at the top of their ability, and be innovative to even get considerable recognition.

wow that was said very well right there

[bendystraw]

im giving hope up here. somebody had better leak it or it will never be heard.

[Ponchibego]

I think due to the time everyone will expect an amazing album like UYI and AFD, but it's not going to be... I think it will be a great album, but it's going to be nothing like the old albums.

[dovic]

Who cares?

[rygun091]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

no.

[darkfire_storm]

did anyone notice that it was all, "i've heard rumors..." and, "i hear..." this isn't even news, it's just hearsay, and it means nothing. plus, no one actually gives a crap about these guys anymore.

[ctb]

I completely forgot about it to be honest.

[Ragnorak6000]

dovic wrote

Who cares?

+110273107601276017230636017

[Pabloria]

Geffen or the new label should tell Axl that the only way they will release Chinese Democracy is if the original Guns N' Roses members reunite. It makes sense!

[Sylvanus]

I'd laugh if someone leaked it and it was never released. Then it turned being better than Appetite.
I don't have much faith in it though.

[Captain Cool]

Pingis_Or_Death wrote:

I thought the head line said GN'Rs Finnish Cheese Democracy :haha:

I just read what you wrote and at first thought you siad "Cheese Documentary"

Its these kind of comments that make the world go round

[imnotastoner]

OzZY-RuLE5!!!!! wrote:

the album sells or it doesn't. i want to hear this album. they could always make up for the money spent on the album by touring.

the label doesnt make any money from touring,
and thats all they care about.

[astheniago]

im still looking forward to this despite all the delays Izzy was always the best writer in gnr as shown on the spaghetti incident and hes the only original member talking to axl at the moment Velvet revolvers average albums just prove that axl doesnt need them

[thefoldarsoldar]

I'll believe it when it's on the shelves.

[RockFreak000]

This Cd will be released in 2012
and it would be the end

[Fred1000000]

This is like the Duke Nukem Forever of the music world. It will never come out, though recently, both of them have got more news.

[sk8rMeTaLhEaD27]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

no

[SmileOfHavok]

AXL ROSE BAND needs to just get it over with and release Chinese Democracy already. It won't be as good as AXL ROSE BAND'S last efforts when he was in Guns N' Roses, but who knows?

[Corey Taylor]

actually, i heard this album has leaked over the internet..its supposed to be really

[Take_Warning]

The only way I would be surprised at this album is if it actually came out. Still wouldn't buy it though, because I hate Axl.

[IfTheWorld]

Corey Taylor wrote:

actually, i heard this album has leaked over the internet..its supposed to be really

People have it but they hoard it

darkfire_storm wrote:
plus, no one actually gives a crap about these guys anymore.

it's funny cause you've obviously never been on one of the fan forums

[big-T]

Theres a release date on amazon for the album, you can pre-order it for that date too

[dgme92]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

Ask the GnR thread that one. The answer's obviously yes, of course people still care. Jesus, some people make the stupidest comments.

[Lrn2play]

No No No No No...
the reason this album wont do good is because people arent sure whether or not it will sound good so theyll just download it to try it out
no body now a days is willing to shell out 10 bucks for something their doubtful of

[m.GAW.u.l.t.i.]

awesome

[death101]

the album has been done for over a year but they adding finishing touches or something

[Slooj]

Ive heard one of the leaked tracks. It sounds ok, but nothing special.

[Page/Rhoads]

I'm sure it is...

[9badarv]

Riot Act wrote:

Kylix wrote:

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.


Never heard that one before.

Haha, seriously, isnt that how the album got the name?

maybe it's just an oxi moron.

[olithebass]

so basically, until people start using CDs again, its gona remain on hold.... lol

[Nikki Christ]

Can't wait to buy the album....If I don't die of old age before it's released =p

[666hamish666]

why dont they put a cd and download out then!!

[peachygnr]

hmmm gay

[Inahrima]

The longer they wait, the more they can be sure everyone will buy it. They'll keep teasing us with "leaks" every now and then to keep us interested.

[tommilee]

who cares about chinese democracy anymore i saw gnr live when they toured the UK few years ago. they did some songs off chinese democracy they didnt sound all that good tbh so im not even botherd about it i prefer it that alx is the twat he is and is delaying it cz then ill never hear that shit again

[3l3phant]

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

maybe that's what they're waiting for

[3l3phant]

i'm really starting to doubt the existence of this album. it was probably scrapped entirely years ago, yet axl wanted to keep ****ing with people, and just keep his name out there somehow

[SideshowRaven24]

666hamish666 wrote:

why dont they put a cd and download out then!!

THANK YOU

[onslaughton]

what they talkin bout people no longer buy cds

i buy at least one cd a week
dumbasses
and i bet with all the hype the cd will suck balls
kinda like saint anger

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

im buying it, no matter what.

[Bulls.On.Parade]

Chinese Democracy and famous in the same sentence? Don't get ahead of yourselves now...

[NorthStarRock]

I have a feeling Chinese Democracy is going to be like the dump I took last night. I sat down thinking it was going to be the biggest and best dump I'd ever taken, but instead I just farted a lot.

[ItalysFinest429]

All but one of the songs have already been leaked...

[supersonic23]

show of hands who is surprised?

[ANTHRAX†]

this is gonna make the summer of 2087 the best!

[_Lewis]

This news is like a week old :/

[DEVILMAN 2012]

recliner33 wrote:

ok, maybe they can blame the label to a certain extend, but it's been how many years? Like come on. If anyone gets the blame for the wait then it should be Axl because he put too much time and money into the album. Axl is giving GNR a bad name. I wish it was like the old days when music wasn't over produced and rock bands put out at least 1 or 2 GOOD albums a year.

back then u diddnt hav as many re-takes pretty much once u nail'd it thats what was gonna be on the record.. why is it that the old records are better is because they were real and flushed right out the ass and not none of this what if we can pitch this or mute that or add a bunch of wishy washy sound effects to kinda tech it up a bit i mean sure artist like to get perfectional specialy with the technology u couldnt do back then but thier comes moments where even your best becomes the worst and your worst becomes the best.. to me thats where the magic is in the art.. and what makes it listinable 20 years frm now and still sounds as fresh as it did then.. alot of todays stuff gets stale & annoying after a dozen listens..

[Guitar_Poet]

if no one buys CDs, sell it online as .mp3s.....

[SlashNX]

surely theyre gona make or atleast reclaim more money issuing it, than scrapping it! And this news is waaaaay old, months ago we were told it was finished!

[TC1223]

nobody buys CDs anymore? wtf

[freshtunes]

It is Axl Rose's fault because the reason so much money is tied up in it is because he spent it all.

[Dragon Master]

Well, how long did it take for Stadium Arcadium to sell, huh? That didn't sell for a long time, and it ended up spawning a VERY FEW hit songs. If anything, this may end up spawning a number of hit songs that not even the Bee Gees(Who, by the way, are the greatest disco act of all time)could reach that number of continous hits.

[Kayfan]

All right! a DJ's blog, can't get much more accurate than that!

.../sarcasm

[FretboardToAsh]

Whahahahaa, that is the funniest stuff I've heard all week:haha

[AnoKid09]

3l3phant wrote:

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.


maybe that's what they're waiting for

holy crap...i never thought of it that way...

[kurtshapedbox]

"...can not find a buyer since nobody buys CDs anymore."

lol, people don't buy records from really big labels because big labels release crap CD's with 2 catchy songs on it and expect people to buy it still. So people pay 2 bucks on iTunes and get those songs and say "Fuck getting the CD."

If they wanna sell records they should release a CD actually worth buying.

[zalant]

Thin Mr. Jones wrote:

Hm... Well, if they sell 3 million CDs for ten bucks a CD, that's $30 million. It took $13 million to record the album, meaning there will be a profit of $17 million.
...
God damn, just release the album already.

Dude, we are of 1 mind. I was just going to post the same exact thing, with $10 as the price, even. So,let's take it a step further and say the price is $15 and it sells 3 million CDs. That's $45 million, and let's just say that there's another couple of million tacked on for distribution (actually trucking it to Best Buy, etc.), so the cost goes up to $15 million. $45 million minus $15 million equals $30 million. Seems like simple math to me, too. Maybe the labels know something that we don't (which I'm sure they do, actually).

[Dragon Master]

Also, I think that it's stupid that people don't buy CDs, anymore! I never download off of iTunes, because I don't have a credit card! All the more for me, then! If anything, GNR should just leave Geffen Records, start a label, and distribute the CDs. Then, they should release a complete collection of all their albums, like Led Zeppelin did!

[ze monsta]

Neeeeevvvverrr gonna happen.

[ShredderOmega]

Yeah... so, 2020?
What's this bull about CDs anyway? I still buy 'em; less hassle than downloading, better quality and places always offer 2 for 1 deals... why NOT get the CD?

[SL!!!]

FRDesign wrote:

I wanna hear it, I don't know if it will be good or not considering its People N Roses. The Guns turned into Revolvers, Velvet ones.

Lol puns

[SL!!!]

ShredderOmega wrote:

Yeah... so, 2020?
What's this bull about CDs anyway? I still buy 'em; less hassle than downloading, better quality and places always offer 2 for 1 deals... why NOT get the CD?

Yeah, plus i really like have the physical copy that i can keep for years, and you get the artwork and lyrics(a lot of times anyway, haha) CDs are definitely better than downloading, and Vinyl is even better quality but that's usually too expensive and not marketed to consumers outside of the underground hip hop, punk/hardcore and indie stuff so the small field for it doesn't help the prices either.

[Lambda]

This is going to be rather an anticlimax, I trust.

One of epic proportions.

[postmortem2006]

After over a decade, this better be at least a double album like Use Your Illusion was - theres no point in releasing one CD with about 15 songs on it after about 13 years of waiting.

This album better be the best thing in existence, or else Axl Rose should hang his head in shame and crawl back to his little hidey-hole (where hes also spent the last decade or so).

My opinion, Chinese Democracy will be the biggest failure in the music industry since St. Anger.

And we ALL know how shit that album is.

[eckmann88]

Man, it's been done for ages. I actually have a copy.

[Dopey_Trout]

My opinion, Chinese Democracy will be the biggest failure in the music industry since St. Anger.

i still have nightmares about it

[SG Man Forever]

I honestly don't care anymore about this album. To me, GNR is dead; only one original band member is present, and they haven't put out an album in over 15 years.

[SG Man Forever]

Plus, if the album ever comes out (which I truly don't think it will) if it is not an absolute musical masterpiece, then it will still be a huge flop because it has been built up so much.

[Mecler]

Nobody even cares anymore. All the talent left GNR years before Chinese Democracy was started. If Duff and Slash and Izzy aren't around, then it's not going to be good. Axl has a horrible voice, so why bother.

[fade_to_black18]

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

+2

[zackk]

it doesnt matter any more. VR is much better than anything axl can put together. they will probably have their 3rd album out before chinese democracy comes out.

[Decembero]

They're keeping the CD from us because they fear they wont get profits???

WHAT?????

RELEASE THE DAMN THING. F*CK PROFITS.

[Confetti]

Any album that has been in the making last 20 years can't be good.

[matt_fender_3]

ginjaninja wrote:

do a radiohead?

*sarcastic laugh* yeah that will happen.
unlike radiohead this band isn't about music. not anymore, at least.

[shut_up_n00b]

Many people still buy cds. It's possible that they wouldn't make any profit because Axl kept re-recording each track.

[HavokStrife]

FRDesign wrote:

I wanna hear it, I don't know if it will be good or not considering its People N Roses. The Guns turned into Revolvers, Velvet ones.

Word.

It's not like it's even gunna be a good CD anyway. Anyone else hear any tracks off it? Axl blew all kinds of money to find out that he can't make songs without a band, and his 8 piece quantity over quality act is gunna get him nowhere. I hope he finishes up screaming and spitting on the five or six fans he's got left at the pub gigs he's running through so doesn't have anyone left.

[Slooj]

I wonder if they will make another album after Chinese Democracy???

[Faxl]

CD1 this year.
CD2 2010.
CD3 2012.


Hopefully.

[jimroot54]

blablablabla

[hobo467]

Do we even want to hear Chinese Democracy? That point's probably already been mentioned, though.

Does anyone even know who besides Axl will be on the album?

[nehpets5555]

I will buy it, the songs ive heard so far are great

[pdq13]

The Dark Side of Sgt. Peppers Santanic Majesties Secret Pet Sounding London Calling Abbey Road Never Mind the Bollock SuperUnknown Paranoid Appetite for Destruction Highway 51 Revisited album ever..With all the hype this is what this album will have to be before I buy it!

[callum2903]

lol i reli dont think it will be a good album, either that or it will be amizng, i think axl's problem is that people expect sooo much from it having taken so long to make, that if its rubbish then he will loose all credibilty he still maintains, its up to you how much that is, but he wont be able to tour it, it will be anotehr G n R record which will osudns the same on all tracks and it will be to over produced, masters like the white stripes record albums in 3 weeks, why must u spend years over it? i rkeon a mounth to write it if your working everyday, any more and you have to try ot hard to make good music and and about a mounth to record,

[Shredder Guitar]

i hear the song "Better" on the radio all the time here, and i have to say, I'm not impressed at all.

[cakeandpiemofo]

I don't even care anymore.

[Nanaki]

Guns 'N Roses are only a name anymore, Axl drove the others away partly through forcing them to sign a waiver stating the name was his. This album isn't written, performed, or influenced by Guns 'N' Roses - the musicians - it's written by Axl and a bunch of other people. Guns 'N' Roses is a legacy, one which Axl and his band couldn't possibly live up to no matter how much pointless publicity they get through stalling an album. What Axl has is simply the name "Guns 'N' Roses". Admittedly, yes also it's fortune, but so what? The others were in it for the music, not the money.

[Zero111]

I swear I heard the same news last year
and the year before
and the year before that
for christs sake release the ****ing album. it's about time.

[piff665]

Sylvanus :
I'd laugh if someone leaked it and it was never released. Then it turned being better than Appetite.
I don't have much faith in it though.
POSTED: 01/21/2008 - 12:28 pm / quote |

You can download like 75% of songs supposed to be on the album on limewire if you want to. I did that almost 2 years ago n all of the songs i heard sucked. Even if i never heard any of the songs before i wouldn't buy this cd. Even if some how it was the greatest thing i had ever heard i still wouldnt buy it because no music is worth waiting that long to hear.

[dann_blood]

This is what happens when you spend over $5 million on recording alone.

[MikeyBlitz]

Chinese Democracy = A Waste Of Goddamn time... G'n'R suck without slash, period.

[TheNthDimension]

What I would do if I was Axl: burn the masters, write and record a new album in a week and call it "$13m down the drain, here's some other shite instead."

[TC1223]

This damn thing better be good !

[Chris.Rock.Art]

i think that the fact of waiting so long took away all my exitement

[Gregoric]

Thin Mr. Jones wrote:

Harry Krishner wrote:

Shabalaba wrote:

Hmmm that may be true, i think due to the amount of press this album has had it would sell pretty well


Yeah it would reach # 1 easily. However, it still would lose money. Many people just don't buy CD's anymore. It would do 3 million tops.
Hm... Well, if they sell 3 million CDs for ten bucks a CD, that's $30 million. It took $13 million to record the album, meaning there will be a profit of $17 million.
...
God damn, just release the album already.

not all of that money will go to the label so they might not make a profit on it. the thing i don't understand is that surely AXL would've predicted this would happen ages ago so why continue to record an album when you know its not going to make any profit and you're on a stupid record label?

[Homeslice91]

Carl6661 wrote:

by the time this album i released china will be a democracy.

lol

[Demon Wolf]

Chinese Democracy is gonna be amazing.

[Deek_13]

I used to bash axl and his merry men, up untill the night i saw them live. They were amazing! I can't wait for the album, don't care how long it takes, it's gonna be epic

[cusic]

pffft no one cares, GnR just started failing when Izzy left.

[shred745]

^Have you heard any of the songs? They aren't that special imo. Definitely not worth the wait.

[shred745]

err to demon wolf.

[Obie]

I think GnR died when Slash,Duff,Gilby and Matt left.

yeah havent heard that before.

i wanna hear this album. does anyone know if bucketheads tracks are still on the album or if they were replaced?

[jambajews]

No one cares anymore

[JB2500]

from what I've heard and seen in live videos, the new stuff sucks big time

[AliveStickBoy]

No one cares anymore

People obviously care, hence the massive amount of comments.

[iron_maiden93]

sowhat360 wrote:

This sounds about right to me. I think the album was recorded by the old band (New GNR pt. 1). Some new members probably recorded a couple parts as well. Kind of a crazy situation. I think they should just make a new album and sell it as a double disc. That would be sweet. By the way I saw the new guns n rose pt. 2 in concert and it was damn amazing. better than VR by a lot. That bumblefoot guy is insane on the guitar. fretless guitar baby!!!!

i saw them in concert too, was a sick show, i barely even noticed the difference in members despite their looks, i heard just chinese democracy is going to be dual disc itself so that should be sweet

[mitch rite]

NWP76 wrote:

Definitely. Look at all the bands from the sixties like the Beatles. They put out 3 or more records a year. Today there aren't any great minds that are putting out true music.

Is it really fair to compare today's bands to the Beatles? Think about it. Back then the public was just impressed by the fact that someone was making a living playing guitar. Today's audiences are so much harder to entertain because by now we've "heard it all." Today's bands have to play AND write at the top of their ability, and be innovative to even get considerable recognition.

Please explain Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Panic(!?) at the Disco, and countless other shitty bands that certainly don't meet those requirements

[Theguitarman2]

i wonder if axl ever reads this stuff or the forums and if he did would he be pissed off about it?

[iron_maiden93]

zackk wrote:

it doesnt matter any more. VR is much better than anything axl can put together. they will probably have their 3rd album out before chinese democracy comes out.

i hate vr, they sound horrible and fill me with an udder despise of all that was good about guns n roses...sorry double post

[zalant]

I really wish this album would just get out already, so the posters here and on Blabbermouth would have other items to waste our (yes, mine, too) posts on.

And, I really, really wish that the word "sick" would just die as a way of describing something good. I'm really sick of it. It makes me sick.

[ReiDSaN]

mitch rite wrote:

NWP76 wrote:

Definitely. Look at all the bands from the sixties like the Beatles. They put out 3 or more records a year. Today there aren't any great minds that are putting out true music.

Is it really fair to compare today's bands to the Beatles? Think about it. Back then the public was just impressed by the fact that someone was making a living playing guitar. Today's audiences are so much harder to entertain because by now we've "heard it all." Today's bands have to play AND write at the top of their ability, and be innovative to even get considerable recognition.

Please explain Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Panic(!?) at the Disco, and countless other shitty bands that certainly don't meet those requirements

Don't be so ridiculous. They're obviously writing something some people want to hear, or they wouldn't be so successful. They're writing what they want to write as well as they can and it's working. Just because you don't like sushi, it doesn't mean certain Japanese chefs aren't awesome.

[vjferrara]

well, if it ever comes out i'll buy it but you'd have to hold a gun to my head to get me to see "G N R" live

[JadedJohn89]

chinese democracy jumbled up comes out as cocaine mercy shed. random fact.

[NewYorkShredder]

how many years must we wait before we get to hear a 30minute to hourlong cd?

[GuitarJunkie]

NewYorkShredder wrote:

how many years must we wait before we get to hear a 30minute to hourlong cd?

forever, because it never will come out...and if by some far stretch of the imagination it does...no one will care.

[joshjebl]

bucket head is on the album so is zak wild, along with other guests. put it out i want to hear how well axl learned to play guitar too.

[Seidenschnur]

Who really cares what Axl is doing. G-N-R were a bunch of leather-clad druggies who got wasted and rocked out non-stop. Unless the other junkies are back in the band (especially Adler), then get fuct Axl!

[Xx_banx]

i dont even care anymore. i would have bought this CD 10 years ago, but like i said, i could give a shit less now.

[ExDeath]

zalant wrote:

I really wish this album would just get out already, so the posters here and on Blabbermouth would have other items to waste our (yes, mine, too) posts on.

And, I really, really wish that the word "sick" would just die as a way of describing something good. I'm really sick of it. It makes me sick.

*Salutes you* you sir, are a genious. Might I ask for a suggestion for a new word? I've been trying to get off of sick for a long time. I've bee using E. Coli. haha lame but better than sick.

[Anjohl]

I but CD's all the time, it's just that there are no new bands that have full albums worth of songs worth buying. If you want good CD's, you gotta go to the past, although i think Devildriver are an exception, very good for a newer band.

The iTunes concept has been embraced by artists now too, its about rapid, empty consumption.

[Axlthegreat]

it'll be great i know that just from the songs that leaked. millions will buy it but they have to release it first.. what a dumb move by the record company to delay it, if infact that is the truth.

[Flying Couch]

Eh, I'll probably by it.

[orgasmickey]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:
I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

I never did. I thought this CD was already out just no one bought it or wanted to talk about it. haha this was actually news for me.

[Shread_6009]

7 years of recording, 20 different band members leaving, 17 of them cursing axl rose and whatever hell spawned him, 6 O'D's countless track marks on axl's arm and one album people are saying will suck. HUGE ACCOMPLISHEMENT, AXL!!!

[fishee9857]

i have about 9 tracks from the new album and some of it IS pretty good, i m just sick of axl's shit. i went to chinese democracy tour in '02 then FOUR FRIGGIN YEARS LATER in '06 in cleveland and it sucked in '06! he FINALLY comes strolling out SO many hours late it was rediculous. what really pisses me off is that he STILL thinks he is all that and can get away with it when all he does is alienate more and more fans. EVERYONE in the crowd was getting pissed. he should be out there touring like mad and signing autographs and doing anything to win fans back and to tell them how much he appreciates them and thanks for thier patience but he is just an ass.....

[Shread_6009]

fishee9857 :
i have about 9 tracks from the new album and some of it IS pretty good, i m just sick of axl's shit. i went to chinese democracy tour in '02 then FOUR FRIGGIN YEARS LATER in '06 in cleveland and it sucked in '06! he FINALLY comes strolling out SO many hours late it was rediculous. what really pisses me off is that he STILL thinks he is all that and can get away with it when all he does is alienate more and more fans. EVERYONE in the crowd was getting pissed. he should be out there touring like mad and signing autographs and doing anything to win fans back and to tell them how much he appreciates them and thanks for thier patience but he is just an ass.....

agreed, **** you axl, you giant cock

[Vaul96]

lol this album cost as much as the from yesterday video by 30 secs to mars

[Emo_Guitars]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

hellz yea i ****ing care .. even though when I think of GnR I think of Slash,Izzy,Matt,Duff.. yea I still would buy it though

[zo$o]

i have more chance of growing another arm than this album coming out

[sitdown248]

I've heard the leaks and let me tell you, the album rocks. You can yap al you want about slash being the band, but seriously, velvet revolver isn't that great of a band, nothing near GNR. Axl founded that band, it's his band. The new songs, especially "Better" sound better than anything velvet revolver's spawned including "Slither." Velvet might actually be doing something, but Axl is better than all of them

[snapneck]

Phoenix_24Leas wrote:

I'm curious, do people even care anymore?

i never cared about it myself.

[JanB]

well it should be leaked onto the internet soon then... i lisened to both the TWAT versions that got leaked and i liked the first one better (i think that was still buckethead rather than the new guitarist trying to copy buckethead)... the second (more produced one) also seemed to be trying too much... but it was still a decent song so this might be an alright album

[misirlou]

so...some dude heard from some unnamed source that an album which in all probability doesn't and won't ever exist might possibly be finished, and this qualifies as news?

[Cobalt Blue]

well Axl implied it was going to come out last year but it didn't... I guess it is possible it's done. I bet Duke Nukem Forever beats it to release.

[Esp_kill07]

Heck I think Van Halen will release a cd before axel

[Flying Afros]

hopefully i wont be dead by the time it is released. im gonna buy it whether it sucks or not, i just wanna hear something new.

[welcom2duhjungl]

Nuuuu. They have to release it. We need to hear the band again.

[adslam3]

if it ever is released...it's probably not going to be good at all...axl doesn't know his ass from his elbow anymore

[pigvomit]

Does anyone care? I heard a "Chinese Democracy" single release about a year ago, it sucked. Axl had the chance to run a super rock band 20 years ago and he blew it. "Appetite" will always be one of my top 10 albums, Axl ruined one of the finest rock bands that should have been.

[kirkadolph]

I buy CDs
: /

[synesterg8es]

i heard they been making it since 1995

[b4k4]

It does make sense, but why can't we just keep business out of music/gaming/other artforms? all this worrying about turning a profit virtually wrecks creativity.

[hansarvin]

my ears are bleeding.... in a bad way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqWu5XLYn2c

[grunger]

okay. i love guns.

Ill quote this from Slash's book:

"Axl is superintelligent, yet at the same time he lives in a place where logic that governs other people does not apply. He doesn't ever realize what an inconvenience his choices might be for others. He means no harm; it's just the way he is. It's very hard to try to even explain it."

We need to remember this is Axl Rose. We never know what's REALLY going on.

[hansarvin]

Ok, just to clear that up, the band it self isn't musically terrible, but it's just not GnR. And Axl is possible the worst singer I've ever heard. On his old stuff he sang things that suited his "singing" voice, but this new stuff is... well it's shit.

[Battery Chicken]

Ok so let me get this straight, they're worried that the album may not sell enough to get a return on thier investment. So to solve the problem by not releasing it at all? Yeah that's logic for you, "we might not make enough money on this album...so let's not release it and make sure WE DON'T make any money."

[demise32]

Has Axl ever heard of ITunes?

[Battery Chicken]

Doesn't matter anyway, from the leaked tracks i've heard it's complete rehash 90's rubbish rock anyway.

[kdcisgod]

I won't believe it until I see it.
And lol at that picture of Axl

[soulflyV]

I think they are waiting until Metallica release their new cd so that chinese democracy doesn't get overshadowed.

[nomadicphantom]

well...i actually think that it will ever come out..like ever.
ive grown tired off w8ting so screw..the only part that i liked about GnR was slash anyways so i dont even care anymore

[Master Shake]

If thats the case then the stupid company is screwing itself over imo. Hype sells a record more than anything and because of how many times we have heard it 'will be released' i really dont care less about it any more as im sure will be the case with a lot of other people. 1 less buyer anyway.
I think its BS either way and i no longer care why it hasnt been released. Im over it.

[the boogieman]

axl needs to stop trying to get himself in the limelight

[kjlee2112]

i know i don't care and that when it comes out that i won't buy it. i didn't care before and i don't care now. who wants this album, i mean really?

[lul]

its way way too late for axl rose and his guns n' roses

[Rengori]

I think it's funny how all the 14-year-olds are saying they've been waiting forever for this album.

[mercurymay]

Rengori wrote:

I think it's funny how all the 14-year-olds are saying they've been waiting forever for this album.

hahahahaha nice one +1

i'm 17 and a huge GN'R fan, but i don't claim to be as ardent a fan as others who were with GN'R in the glory days of 87-92

[korn_dawg]

ReiDSaN wrote:

mitch rite wrote:

NWP76 wrote:

Definitely. Look at all the bands from the sixties like the Beatles. They put out 3 or more records a year. Today there aren't any great minds that are putting out true music.

Is it really fair to compare today's bands to the Beatles? Think about it. Back then the public was just impressed by the fact that someone was making a living playing guitar. Today's audiences are so much harder to entertain because by now we've "heard it all." Today's bands have to play AND write at the top of their ability, and be innovative to even get considerable recognition.

Please explain Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Panic(!?) at the Disco, and countless other shitty bands that certainly don't meet those requirements

Don't be so ridiculous. They're obviously writing something some people want to hear, or they wouldn't be so successful. They're writing what they want to write as well as they can and it's working. Just because you don't like sushi, it doesn't mean certain Japanese chefs aren't awesome.

That analogy is very flawed.. musicians can produce complete crap music and play like crap on stage yet people are still interested in them and buy what they throw out. With Japanese chefs and sushi, I'm not even gonna start.

[hb15577]

lets go and break into geffen and steal iy, but it might be a crap album so forget it

[hb15577]

lets go and break into geffen and steal it, but it might be a crap album so forget it

[soulflyV]

kjlee2112 wrote:

i know i don't care and that when it comes out that i won't buy it. i didn't care before and i don't care now. who wants this album, i mean really?

Yet you come and open this page, probably read the article and then commented?

Yeah you really fooled me.

[Bendybaws]

hb15577 wrote:

lets go and break into geffen and steal it, but it might be a crap album so forget it

Geffen would bend you over and break you in

[[scarlet]]

That analogy is very flawed.. musicians can produce complete crap music and play like crap on stage yet people are still interested in them and buy what they throw out. With Japanese chefs and sushi, I'm not even gonna start.

yeah, only by 'crap music' you mean 'music you don't like'. i doubt you've even listened to an album from one of the bands you criticise.

imo, it doesn't even matter how good this album is, if it is ever released - there's no way it can best 10 years of hype. move on already

[johnny-rock]

well cant axl just put it on iTunes or something then... I WANNA HEAR IT!!!! or do i?? maybe i wont want to pay for some washed up band of missfits pretending to be gunners. who knows! not me!

[skindred]

its gonna be sh*t either way, id rather it not come out, velvet revolver FTW!

[paulwellerrocks]

i heard that the songs hav changed several times so the versions leaked several years ago may be completely different to the ones on that may or may not be realeased on chines democracy

[redgamefreakman]

axl just sucks ass!!! ever since slash left there was no longer any reason left to listen to this band... velvet revolver is much better!!!!!

[MattTheArsonist]

Axl Rose has really made a joke of GNR. GNR is dead.

[Mulldarran]

I don't even care anymore

[Shaned]

Old GNR>Velvet Revolver
New GNR

[El Jordo]

PUNKfromNORWAY wrote:

I think GnR died when Slash,Duff,Gilby and Matt left.
But I loved the old GnR with Izzy and Steven.
Of course I will hear the new album, but it can't be better than the old stuff

you won't hear the new album because it is not coming out

[sevenchurches]

Skid Row were always better anyway

[Mr. Altoid]

Axl should lose the braids.

[guilty]

I wonder this will do good, I want to hear it,.

[Odd1]

I have heard some of the latest demoes and they totally rocks!

[SvnStringMaster]

i preordered this cd 83 years ago, c'mon already!

[XXm3t@lXX]

GnR sucks anyways.
Sure they have some catchy songs..but really..
they were lame then, so imagine how lame they will be now.

[Ali-b912]

i wonder if axl paid this guy.

[Nexu]

If everyone avoids this CD when it comes out then maybe Axl will go away!

[tim311mahoney]

who honestly cares about this album? i truly believe that every gnr fan has given up hope... and rightfully so.

[Bazilisck311]

Would be wise to release the album while GnR's fan base is still alive...

[mantyce]

I'm questioning if there even is a Chinese Democracy album. Perhaps this is simply a huge hoax to try a goat fans in, build up anticipation, and try to keep the "new" GNR in the mainstream. Any singles we may have heard are probably just that...one-off singles to make the whole "story" more believable. My bet is that one day we'll read an article claiming that the project has been cancelled. Seriously, 14 years to make an album by a has-been artist?? The buck keeps getting passed too easily and this whole Chinese Democracy hype is getting really suspicious.

[Zero-Hartman]

there's been so much hype, we're all gonna have huge expectations and I personally don't think it'll live up to what we believe it to be.

[DarKMaTTeR.tm]

I've hearing about Chinese Democracy for so many years that I got used to it not being released. I dont think it ever will anyway...
And even it did, I bet it would be total suckage

[DarKMaTTeR.tm]

Bazilisck311 wrote:

Would be wise to release the album while GnR's fan base is still alive...

Whenever it comes out, bet it is going to be a huge smash for their 80-90 year old fanbase

[IfTheWorld]

synesterg8es wrote:

i heard they been making it since 1995

try 1997-1998

[americanmovie23]

this is the most expensive album ever made.....

13 million dollars....
and it hasn't been released yet.

they could tour but i wouldn't spend money to go see just axl.

no slash, no duff, no cool people in the background...
just a bunch of no bodies.....

too bad

[WishfulShredder]

Chinese Democracy and Duke Nukem Forever have a Lot in common
They'll NEVER get finished
And they have Cockfaces for The Frontmen

[James_Het_Rules]

I could've sworn i heard this about ten years ago... or maybe.. um...

[LeoKhenir]

WishfulShredder wrote:

Chinese Democracy and Duke Nukem Forever have a Lot in common
They'll NEVER get finished
And they have Cockfaces for The Frontmen

I'll be playing DN4 whilst listening to Chinese Democracy...

[hew-jass]

i heard this a while ago. gnr r ace though

oh my god was a good song =]

[hew-jass]

sorry btw

no slash, no duff, no cool people in the background...
just a bunch of no bodies.....

ur not a guns n roses fan

ur a velvet revolver fan

both are amazing

[David_Bowie=GOD]

Anybody with me when i say that this band was and always will be extremely overrated? I mean the only one in the band with any talent was Slash(hes kind of overrated himself i mean hes no hendrix people shouldnt act like he is) but i mean he was the only one with talent and hes gone so now..... Guns and Roses really sucks! I will be boycotting this album.

[hew-jass]

David_Bowie=GOD wrote:

Anybody with me when i say that this band was and always will be extremely overrated? I mean the only one in the band with any talent was Slash(hes kind of overrated himself i mean hes no hendrix people shouldnt act like he is) but i mean he was the only one with talent and hes gone so now..... Guns and Roses really sucks! I will be boycotting this album.

slash was good

but hes in velvet revolver now ....

and axls got great song writing talents

=]

[Sabotage1]

By the time this album is released there will be no china

****en mongolians