Jack White Turns Down Appearance On New Slash Album

According Nme.com, Jack White has turned down the chance to appear on Slash's upcoming solo record.

The album, Slash & Friends, is slated for an early 2010 release and is said to already feature musicians such as Alice Cooper, Flea and Dave Grohl. Slash reportedly hoped to have White sing on the record, but the artist refused.

"I wanted to get Jack White to sing on something, but he didn't want to sing," said the guitarist. "He said I'll play drums, I'll play guitar, but I don't wanna sing. He was one guy that I wanted to work with. Pretty much everyone else that I went after I managed to get."

Slash also stated on his Twitter account he hopes to wrap up the album by the end of November.

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Comments

[kingbabyduck]

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

[Comeback Kiddd]

gayfish

[Xeus]

probably for the best

[Xoth]

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

[Anthony1991]

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

[deansouthpaw]

Anthony1991 :
Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

Yeah because singing on Slash's album would be selling out....

[Engel22]

I hardly think appearing on a Slash solo album could be constituted as "Selling out".

[Zeppelin Addict]

Xoth wrote:

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

exactly. its a smart musician knowing his musicianship and knowing he didnt fit the bill ... kudos to jack i love him

cant wait for this album though.. some great names already on the list.. cooper, flea and grohl.. just fantastic.. and with SLASH.. my idol makes his return to the studio.. im PSYCHED!

[Ethicdoom]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

How does this make him a sell out?

Hating Dave Grohl....nonsense.

[Zeppelin Addict]

and stfu about selling out.. its SLASH and FRIENDS making an ALBUM.. slash asks dave to play and hes down for it.. yep thats huge theyll be on muchmusic tomorrow with all the other sellouts... do without the ignorance next time please and thanks

[Paradox5]

Selling out? The White Stripes and Jack White in general are already pretty mainstream..

[Anthony1991]

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

[Kyle.E]

People don't know what selling out means T_T ala Paradox5.

[loaded_]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

for what reason did you bring dave grohl into this?
this is about slash and jack white

[rebeltildeth87]

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

anyone else chuckle at this? I know the guy is a better player than most people give him credit for but hes not that good.

[Ethicdoom]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Because being on the radio is a sign of mainstream and/or sell out, not opening for MTV awards or any other pop culture event, everyone has heard of the White Stripes, they are far more comericially successful then Foo Fighters. Ever heard of Probot? Probably not, heard of The Raconteurs (sp)? Probably, comparing side project to side project White Vs Grohl, seems one of them is a lot more mainstream, winner = JacK white.

Grohl haters are not welcome, espically when they so wrong.

[guitartiger]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

hey watch it! dave grohl is THE MAN

[deafening]

he just didnt want to sing, i think he's having a me-no-sing phase

hes a talented enough musician to temporarily ditch any instrument (including his voice)

p.s i love grohl
pps i dont care for jack white

[MacMan2001]

Shame, I like Jack.

I don't like Slash though, the definition of overrated.

[ktulu51]

Ethicdoom wrote:

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Because being on the radio is a sign of mainstream and/or sell out, not opening for MTV awards or any other pop culture event, everyone has heard of the White Stripes, they are far more comericially successful then Foo Fighters. Ever heard of Probot? Probably not, heard of The Raconteurs (sp)? Probably, comparing side project to side project White Vs Grohl, seems one of them is a lot more mainstream, winner = JacK white.

Grohl haters are not welcome, espically when they so wrong.

Dude Dave Grohl is more known. And because of that, by your logic he's more mainstream. The white stipes are only really known for 7 Nation Army, the Foo Fighters have a shitload of songs on the radio. And who cares about side projects? This is an argument over which band/person is more mainstream so side projects have nothing to do with it. Think before you post your comment dude.

[Like I Is]

Smart move.

[getts182]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

Why hate the guy that is consistently considered one of the nicest guys in rock?

[EREV777]

rebeltildeth87 wrote:

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

anyone else chuckle at this? I know the guy is a better player than most people give him credit for but hes not that good.

ha i did chuckle, slash is too overated :/

[Like I Is]

Also, I don't remember Dave Grohl being asked to star in a feature film alongside The Edge and Jimmy Page.

That's got to count for something.

[getts182]

ktulu51 wrote:

Ethicdoom wrote:

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Because being on the radio is a sign of mainstream and/or sell out, not opening for MTV awards or any other pop culture event, everyone has heard of the White Stripes, they are far more comericially successful then Foo Fighters. Ever heard of Probot? Probably not, heard of The Raconteurs (sp)? Probably, comparing side project to side project White Vs Grohl, seems one of them is a lot more mainstream, winner = JacK white.

Grohl haters are not welcome, espically when they so wrong.

Dude Dave Grohl is more known. And because of that, by your logic he's more mainstream. The white stipes are only really known for 7 Nation Army, the Foo Fighters have a shitload of songs on the radio. And who cares about side projects? This is an argument over which band/person is more mainstream so side projects have nothing to do with it. Think before you post your comment dude.

Yeah, but really, what is Dave Grohl known most for? If you ask ten people I almost guarantee you at least nine of ten mention Nirvana before they mention the Foo Fighters.

[dentrix]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

Obvious troll is obvious

[kerokero]

getts182 wrote:
Yeah, but really, what is Dave Grohl known most for? If you ask ten people I almost guarantee you at least nine of ten mention Nirvana before they mention the Foo Fighters.

Yeah...I doubt that. Don't forget. back in the day, people could instantly name Kurt Cobain, and not Krist Nor Dave. Nowadays, Foo Fighters has had more publicity, success, and mainstream appeal then Nirvana. Ask anyone into pop music nowadays, and they'll immediately indetify Grohl for Foo Fighters, not Nirvana.

[the humanity]

should have had Jack play guitar, that would have been really cool.

[MattA7Xfan4Life]

everyone is forgetting the definition of sell out. which is making music for the money. usually forces a band/artist to change their sound. which neither Dave Grohl nor Jack White has done.

Checked.

Don't let the arguments turn into flame wars. Or else we'll have to start warning people. Love you guys

[daeqwon10000]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Yeah mine. I use my Zune.

[Jamie_W]

Was gutted about this. When I heard of Slashs album I was really hoping he'd do something with Jack as Slash has said before that he's a fan of Jacks.

Would really like to know exactly why it fell apart though. Jacks voice would have worked, Slash doesn't just play big GnR riffs.

[m0o]

MacMan2001 wrote:

Shame, I like Jack.

I don't like Slash though, the definition of overrated.

Seriously? The guy fronted the whole 'Hard Rock' thing going on in the 90's. His solo's and riffs are amazing. Slash is one guy that is NOT overrated.

[IsThereLoveInSp]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Haha are you kidding? Not counting appearances on award shows, world tours, etc, Seven Nation Army, I Just Dont Know What To Do With Myself, Hardest Button to Button, Blue Orchid, The Denial Twist, My Doorbell, Icky Thump, You Don't Know What Love Is (You Just Do as You're Told), Rag and Bone, and Fell in Love With a Girl were all pretty popular...

[IsThereLoveInSp]

Not to mention winning Grammy awards and platinum and gold album sales

[Ethicdoom]

ktulu51 wrote:

Ethicdoom wrote:

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Because being on the radio is a sign of mainstream and/or sell out, not opening for MTV awards or any other pop culture event, everyone has heard of the White Stripes, they are far more comericially successful then Foo Fighters. Ever heard of Probot? Probably not, heard of The Raconteurs (sp)? Probably, comparing side project to side project White Vs Grohl, seems one of them is a lot more mainstream, winner = JacK white.

Grohl haters are not welcome, espically when they so wrong.

Dude Dave Grohl is more known. And because of that, by your logic he's more mainstream. The white stipes are only really known for 7 Nation Army, the Foo Fighters have a shitload of songs on the radio. And who cares about side projects? This is an argument over which band/person is more mainstream so side projects have nothing to do with it. Think before you post your comment dude.

Sarcasm towards the first guy dude.

[wouldyakindly]

kerokero wrote:

getts182 wrote:
Yeah, but really, what is Dave Grohl known most for? If you ask ten people I almost guarantee you at least nine of ten mention Nirvana before they mention the Foo Fighters.

Yeah...I doubt that. Don't forget. back in the day, people could instantly name Kurt Cobain, and not Krist Nor Dave. Nowadays, Foo Fighters has had more publicity, success, and mainstream appeal then Nirvana. Ask anyone into pop music nowadays, and they'll immediately indetify Grohl for Foo Fighters, not Nirvana.

I think we're missing the point. If mainstream really meant "bad" then we would all listen to ethiopian jazz covers of Trout mask replica backwards on our 1920s gramophones. Grohl makes good music and he's popular as well, but in his case at least, there isn't much of a connection between the two.

[purvis]

I just want to know how slash is overrated

[nonotreals]

lol u guys r all stupid, both grohl and white are in very commercial bands and theres nothing wrong with that

[Jamie_W]

IsThereLoveInSp
Haha are you kidding? Not counting appearances on award shows, world tours, etc, Seven Nation Army, I Just Dont Know What To Do With Myself, Hardest Button to Button, Blue Orchid, The Denial Twist, My Doorbell, Icky Thump, You Don't Know What Love Is (You Just Do as You're Told), Rag and Bone, and Fell in Love With a Girl were all pretty popular...

Icky Thump is a pretty un-radio friendly song tho, what with all the weird keyboards, I was surprised it did so well.

[redhotsexmagic]

everyone needs to chill with this selling out crap. If YOU were in a successful band and millions of people bought your music then you're automatically a sellout?? Dave Grohl is selling out for playing on Slash's album? wtf seriously shut up about it. stop being pissed because you suck and aren't making money with your music.

[AlterEdge]

Well then Jack, if your going to be stubborn then your not needed. Go back and try to learn every other instrument while your at it.

Also, really hope Myles Kennedy sings on a song of Slash's. That would most likely be pretty epic.

[JFSJ513]

Haha. I love how this just turned into a bunch of people jumping to Dave Grohl's defense, which isn't remotely relevant to the article. Jack might have been a cool addition to the album, but with Flea and Dave on it, I'll buy it anyway. And am I the only one that thought selling out was becoming a Disney star and releasing a clothing line?

[The3rdMugician]

i think its funny that everyone constitutes "selling out" to some people, if one person likes your music then you have sold out. It reminds me of a joke "How many indie bands does it take to screw in a lightbulb? the number is so obscure youve probably never heard of it"

[alliwant]

AlterEdge wrote:

Well then Jack, if your going to be stubborn then your not needed. Go back and try to learn every other instrument while your at it.

Also, really hope Myles Kennedy sings on a song of Slash's. That would most likely be pretty epic.

Well with Creed doing their reunion tour it's a big possibility. I'd love it if it happened. Big Myles fan

[FriscoAnderson]

I can see why he didn't want to sing... I love his voice, but, I agree with one of the previous comments, his voice wouldn't fit... And, I also agree that he is a great musisian by showing that he knew his limits... But, I don't see why Slash didn't have him play guitar with him... That harmonization would give me orgasms for days... Damn, that'd be sweet as f*ck... Well, that's all I have to say... Later...

[swansareroadkil]

MattA7Xfan4Life wrote:

everyone is forgetting the definition of sell out. which is making music for the money. usually forces a band/artist to change their sound. which neither Dave Grohl nor Jack White has done.

I love you

[RockUAway]

alliwant wrote:

AlterEdge wrote:

Well then Jack, if your going to be stubborn then your not needed. Go back and try to learn every other instrument while your at it.

Also, really hope Myles Kennedy sings on a song of Slash's. That would most likely be pretty epic.

Well with Creed doing their reunion tour it's a big possibility. I'd love it if it happened. Big Myles fan

That's a pretty neat idea

[MacMan2001]

m0o wrote:

MacMan2001 wrote:

Shame, I like Jack.

I don't like Slash though, the definition of overrated.

Seriously? The guy fronted the whole 'Hard Rock' thing going on in the 90's. His solo's and riffs are amazing. Slash is one guy that is NOT overrated.

When you hear EVH, Yngwie, Satriani and Vai, you realise Slash isn't all he's cracked up to be. To me, at least.

[siraxlrose]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

that isn't a very popular song, you would more likely hear seven nation army or hardest button to button before that.

[sgtpppr5477ROCK]

well technically he didnt refuse to appear on the album

[ndschroede23]

MacMan2001 wrote:

m0o wrote:

MacMan2001 wrote:

Shame, I like Jack.

I don't like Slash though, the definition of overrated.

Seriously? The guy fronted the whole 'Hard Rock' thing going on in the 90's. His solo's and riffs are amazing. Slash is one guy that is NOT overrated.

When you hear EVH, Yngwie, Satriani and Vai, you realise Slash isn't all he's cracked up to be. To me, at least.

shredding =/= hard rock

That's like saying "Once you've listened to Guns 'n' Roses, you realize that the Ramones just aren't that good."

[Jmoarguitar]

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

he's just got a unique voice. I mean it's slashs cd and he's the guitarist obviously, and i forget the drummer he's got playing on his record and i know flea does some bass, basically he's got the best of the best and he just wanted a unique singer

[ellimem]

You guys don't know what selling out is. Selling out is NOT being popular. It is being popular by conforming to the standard way a record is made and the way it sounds. Please, please someone name an album in the mainstream that sounds like the White Stripes or Raconteurs.

Cold War Kids are the closest to modern electric blues fusion like the White Stripes and they are only now becoming moderately successful.

Selling out is Metallica or someone like them. A band that used to make albums one way then changed it to become popular for the money. They used to be metal but are now a lost hard rock band.

[rd93]

kerokero wrote:

getts182 wrote:
Yeah, but really, what is Dave Grohl known most for? If you ask ten people I almost guarantee you at least nine of ten mention Nirvana before they mention the Foo Fighters.

Yeah...I doubt that. Don't forget. back in the day, people could instantly name Kurt Cobain, and not Krist Nor Dave. Nowadays, Foo Fighters has had more publicity, success, and mainstream appeal then Nirvana. Ask anyone into pop music nowadays, and they'll immediately indetify Grohl for Foo Fighters, not Nirvana.

Nevermind is one of the most influential albums and probably the best selling alternative album, and In Utero went 4 or 5 times platinum. Foo Fighters haven't had nearly as much success.

I'm sure Foo Fighters wouldn't be as successful anyway if Grohl had never become famous through Nirvana. When you ask almost any person what Grohl's best instrument is, he will be known as a drummer. Even more nowadays since he's drumming for TCV.

Regardless, I guess the Foo Fighters are more popular than the White Stripes, but both bands are pretty popular so neither Jack White nor Dave Grohl need to "sell out"...

[CranberryJuice]

Collaborate two very talented musicians?
I would not call that selling-out, although it would make a lot of money...

[Progis8strings]

This album that Slash is working on is going to blow. In other words, good call Jack White.

[Sassafrasquatch]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

I'm pretty sure thats classified as blasphemy now days.

[Slap-happy]

Jack would have been an interesting vocal addition - especially if Slash had a specific song in mind.

As for the Dave Grohl hate... Huh? The guy's in a band that happened to be successful, formed another to kill tmie and became huge, has been sought out by Bowie, NIN, QotSA, Killing Joke, Garbage, Cat Power amongst many more because of his talent... That doesn't make him a sell out - maybe a tad over-exposed, depending on the media you reat/watch/listen to.

[JFRules]

lol Slash should have asked Axl to sing on the album lol
or even Izzy that would have been sweet

[NckSprks]

[quote]Ethicdoom wrote:

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

Because being on the radio is a sign of mainstream and/or sell out, not opening for MTV awards or any other pop culture event, everyone has heard of the White Stripes, they are far more comericially successful then Foo Fighters. Ever heard of Probot? Probably not, heard of The Raconteurs (sp)? Probably, comparing side project to side project White Vs Grohl, seems one of them is a lot more mainstream, winner = JacK white.
/quote]

I'm sorry to say this, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Being mainstream does NOT equal selling out. Selling out means sacrificing the integrity of the music for money/fame, being mainstream means that people may like your music. You can be mainstream and a sellout, you can be a sellout and not be mainstream, or you could be neither.

On topic: Jack White knows what he's doing, if he turned down the offer for vocals that just means that his vocals didn't fit with the music.

[Superperfex]

Enjoying music is selling out? If I were to make an album now, would I be selling out?

Seriously, learn what the definition of sell out is. *cough*Metallica*cough*

[gnfnrs]

JFSJ513 wrote:

Haha. I love how this just turned into a bunch of people jumping to Dave Grohl's defense, which isn't remotely relevant to the article. Jack might have been a cool addition to the album, but with Flea and Dave on it, I'll buy it anyway. And am I the only one that thought selling out was becoming a Disney star and releasing a clothing line?

Dude That is what i think a sell out is to

[Niiko]

Seriously, guys, stop with the whole selling out thing. You don't make yourself look cool or hardcore, just a douche.
The term 'Selling out' varies a little. The earlier poster who pointed out Metallica for selling out is pretty much dead wrong. There's nothing wrong with a band who experiments and tries different things when making an album. If selling out were by his/her view, then NIN, Foo Fighters and alot of other big bands out there would be classed as selling out. Selling out is just, basically, going back on your ideals and resolve to make more money. If you're a well known punk band and go about saying "We don't need big labels to make it big, we'll do shit our own way" and then do the opposite of what you say, i.e. sign up to a label and then mass market your music AND on top of that, do adverts for household items or anything not relevantly related to the music industry, then that is selling out.

[forsaknazrael]

I think people really need to understand that success doesn't necessarily equate to selling out. :rolleyes:

[hendo123456789]

JFRules wrote:

lol Slash should have asked Axl to sing on the album lol
or even Izzy that would have been sweet

Izzy is actually playing on the album. think it is just guitar on a song though.

[jean_genie]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Lol how are they?

Tell me when have you heard ball and biscuit playing out of a car stereo? Or ASTRO?

ggkkthnxbai

My local 'alt/rock' station, WEQX, played Ball and Bisquit consantly when it was new.

SFU, newb.

[Bighair]

Massive respect to both artists. I feel that Jack White has been the most innovative of the two though. However, everyone knows that he's a bit weird :P That's the beauty of him. I think Slash will get enough brilliant artists on his album though.

[Melvin7727]

I'm tired of people saying that Slash is overrated. Granted there is a side of him that is overrated (10 year old kids: "dude! Slash rules! I know he's so awesome on guitar hero with his hat and his sunglasses! He is one crazy guitar guy!"). But there is also a side of him that is pretty underrated: his guitar playing. I'm not talking about his solos or riffs or anything for GNR or VR, I mean when he just plays, just jamming.

[salsa sosebee]

PEOPLE are gonna flame on me But Metallica are sellouts thats your example White Stripes are not sell outs but Jack didnt have to be a prick and refuse to sing

[thedarkblues06]

dentrix wrote:

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.
Obvious troll is obvious

Amen. Successful troll is successful, as well.

On topic, I'm excited about this album, as well as TCV. A good month in music imo.

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

selling out is such a vague term. it needs to be phased out.

that, or all you punks need to get smarter about using it.

[LilGil]

good music is good music. shut up about sell outs

[EnyoAdonai]

vIsIbleNoIsE wrote:

selling out is such a vague term. it needs to be phased out.

that, or all you punks need to get smarter about using it.

It's not vague, I think everyone knows the meaning of it. They just want a reason to hate popular bands so everyone will think they're non-conformists, cool man. They're the sort of people who will change what they believe so people will accept them... now that's selling out, sad think is it applies to at least half the people who have posted here.

Agreed though. It's a phrase that gets tossed around far too much.

[SGmaniac1021]

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

That's not what he said. he said, "He was one guy I would like to work with."

[crazy8rgood]

The obvious reason he didn't join is because if Jack White and Dave Grohl were both on a single album, the world would explode from sheer awesome.

[SurfinWithSatch]

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work

Learn to read, Slash didn't say he was "the" one guy he wanted to work with, he said he was "one" guy he wanted to work with.

Ultimately it's for the best though. Jack White is one of the most overrated musicians going in my opinion.

[Ricky4635]

How can anybody say that Jack White is more famous than Dave Grohl. Dave was the drummer of Nirvana. And in case you forgot, Nirvana changed the music was played.

[3Dpaper]

Xoth wrote:

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

metal \m/

[archangels666]

Xoth wrote:
It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

Eh. I don't know about that. I think it would be a pretty interesting combination.

And to whomever said that Dave Grohl is more known for what he did with Nirvana, you should probably think about it again. Ask anyone who doesn't play guitar or drums, and you'll get a different response than what everyone from UG knows.

[Let It Be0o0]

m0o wrote:

MacMan2001 wrote:

Shame, I like Jack.

I don't like Slash though, the definition of overrated.

Seriously? The guy fronted the whole 'Hard Rock' thing going on in the 90's. His solo's and riffs are amazing. Slash is one guy that is NOT overrated.

Slash has been rated in a shitload of magazines as the #1 guitar player of all time, AHEAD of Hendrix, King, Clapton, Page, and every other legend.

Slash is good but he is SO overrated...

[Malchius]

Ricky4635 wrote:

How can anybody say that Jack White is more famous than Dave Grohl. Dave was the drummer of Nirvana. And in case you forgot, Nirvana changed the music was played.

Not really, they realeased a decent album with some good songs on it, realeased a third album which did quite well and then Cobain killed himself and he became an idol. Nirvana didn't become music gods and changed how music was played, it was Cobain became some sort of symbol which is why Grohl is known to be the front man of the Foo Fighters rather than drummer of Nirvana.

[blaqk_fiend]

i dont know jack's point...

[blaqk_fiend]

Slash has been rated in a shitload of magazines as the #1 guitar player of all time, AHEAD of Hendrix, King, Clapton, Page, and every other legend.

Slash is good but he is SO overrated...[/quote]

not in rolling stones 100 guitaristss....just sayin

[metalicizer]

Who cares if Jack White doesn't seem like he'd fit in on this album? Isn't M. Shadows on it?

[PaperSun]

Jack White = Love.

[GenerationKILL]

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

Jack White doesn't compare to slash when it comes to guitar. Maybe thats why he didn't want him playing guitar on the album, slash and Jack playing together would've been a conflict of interest.

[espChris93]

MattA7Xfan4Life wrote:

everyone is forgetting the definition of sell out. which is making music for the money. usually forces a band/artist to change their sound. which neither Dave Grohl nor Jack White has done.

Actually that is not at all the definition of a sellout, when someone sells out they go against their instincts or their gut feeling to do something to please others and not their own creativity its just that usually that decision involves being more "accessable" or "mainstream". and in MY OPINION(thats right you dont have to like it) im VERY proud of Jack for turning this down because hes a great musician he diserves better musical company than overatted players like slash(YES he is INSANELY OVERATTED!) although i do respect dave, vince, and mike so this might not be too terribly bad.... and i hope i dont regret saying that hahah

[HammettFTW]

Xoth wrote:

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

It would most definitely not be like that. Personally I think it would've worked great and plus, the two musicians are good enough songwriters to make something fit. Its Jacks choice though, but i would loved that

[espChris93]

blaqk_fiend wrote:

Slash has been rated in a shitload of magazines as the #1 guitar player of all time, AHEAD of Hendrix, King, Clapton, Page, and every other legend.

Slash is good but he is SO overrated...

not in rolling stones 100 guitaristss....just sayin[/quote]
Thats one of the reasons he IS overatted, because instead of listening to his entire musical career and interpretting Slash's playing themselves most people jump on the bandwagon because rolling stone(who 99.9999% of the time wouldnt know good music if it bit them on the ass) says something is great. which is sad because slash does show some very amazing moments in his playing but sadly most people only know welcome to the jungle and sweet child of mine... plus "best of..." musical lists are utter garbage because you cant measure the variety, creativity, and expression in music IMO

[HammettFTW]

GenerationKILL wrote:

kingbabyduck wrote:

If he was the one guy he really wanted to work with, why wouldn't he let Jack play drums or guitars? Jack isn't that good of a singer, but is one of the best at guitar, IMO.

Jack White doesn't compare to slash when it comes to guitar. Maybe thats why he didn't want him playing guitar on the album, slash and Jack playing together would've been a conflict of interest.

Now that would be the equivelant of Ray charles singing for Slayer. They're both leads, and Jack White would be stomping the shit out of his whammy pedal, which i like about him most (his unusual soloing style), but it wouldnt work

[huevos]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

I'm sure he sold that way before that.
I'm not saying he sold his artistic integrity, but marketing music as a product makes basically all musicians "sell outs" (which a term and stupid term to use).

[Ali-b912]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

Probot is such a sellout album. Singing with guys like Cronos, Kurt Brecht and Max Cavelera is like asking for money. Clearly he's not in it for enjoyment or anything.

/Sarcasm

[Nor'Easterbass]

Xoth wrote:

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

more like Robert Smith trying to sing Nickelback hahaha

[Dr Dynamyte]

salsa sosebee wrote:

PEOPLE are gonna flame on me But Metallica are sellouts thats your example White Stripes are not sell outs but Jack didnt have to be a prick and refuse to sing

LOL, what? He didn't refuse. He just didn't want to. Free rights, man.
Oh, and I have really nothing against either three of them. They are all very talented and worked their way up to mainstream success. I like Jack White the most though, I just love his music a lot, but neither of them are sellouts nor cock-gobbling puppy ****ers.
And if people are gonna say, but Slash was on Guitar Hero!, well, maybe he wanted to be. It'd be fun to be in one of those.

[Joe P K]

i'm a huge jack white fan, but i'm pretty sure he sold out when he made that coca cola song with alicia keys. he could've helped slash out on a song.

[gljbass]

Melvin7727 wrote:

I'm tired of people saying that Slash is overrated. Granted there is a side of him that is overrated (10 year old kids: "dude! Slash rules! I know he's so awesome on guitar hero with his hat and his sunglasses! He is one crazy guitar guy!"). But there is also a side of him that is pretty underrated: his guitar playing. I'm not talking about his solos or riffs or anything for GNR or VR, I mean when he just plays, just jamming.

Agreed! I mean, I am not a big fan of Slash myself, mostly because I'm not a fan of the whole western desert blues thing he's got going on. But his tone is undeniably amazing. He's no Randy Rhodes or anything, but a perfect blend of tone and solo ability. I really hope this album will be worth more than VR's "Libertad". That album could have been so much better.

[AusMetal33]

just because a band is popular or 'mainstream' doesnt mean they have sold out, for example AC/DC were hugely popular when they came out and have never once renounced their principles or style

some bands sell out in order to become popular, others become popular from outright skill/ability

[nick_b]

man, dave grohl and slash on the one song. sounds good to me. too bad about not getting white on board, but its shaping up to be an incredible album

[Hungry_Hameds]

wouldyakindly wrote:

kerokero wrote:

getts182 wrote:
Yeah, but really, what is Dave Grohl known most for? If you ask ten people I almost guarantee you at least nine of ten mention Nirvana before they mention the Foo Fighters.

Yeah...I doubt that. Don't forget. back in the day, people could instantly name Kurt Cobain, and not Krist Nor Dave. Nowadays, Foo Fighters has had more publicity, success, and mainstream appeal then Nirvana. Ask anyone into pop music nowadays, and they'll immediately indetify Grohl for Foo Fighters, not Nirvana.

I think we're missing the point. If mainstream really meant "bad" then we would all listen to ethiopian jazz covers of Trout mask replica backwards on our 1920s gramophones. Grohl makes good music and he's popular as well, but in his case at least, there isn't much of a connection between the two.

I disagree, I think credit to Grohl for being able to shake off the 'Grunge Ringo' tag, I think it would be more 50/50 people namechecking foos or nirvana. Grohl hasn't sold out, if anybody has earnt the right to do what the hell they want musically then it's Grohl, the guy is one of the most influential figures in music over the past 10 years. Oh and Jack White's a crap singer anyway, get him on guitar, all he did drumming for dead weather was cram in fills at every oppourtunity... stick with the raconteurs man!!

[Msu_Man04]

Anthony1991 wrote:

Good news, proves Jack isnt a sell out like Dave Grohl - thats right, i hate dave.

You only THINK you don't like Dave. Everyone likes Dave.

Checked.

[cobracarg]

Xoth wrote:

I can see why Jack wouldn't want to sing on Slash's album. They both draw their music from the blues, but Jack's singing voice probably isn't well suited for Slash's genre of music. It would be like Ray Charles trying to sing Slayer.

thats too extreme of example... slash is pretty open minded when it comes to music...for example, he shared the stage with MJ and i think we can all agree that MJ and Slash have very different directions as far as music goes

[Zyph73]

MacMan2001 wrote:

When you hear EVH, Yngwie, Satriani and Vai, you realise Slash isn't all he's cracked up to be. To me, at least.

With that list you seem to think the only people that are good are the ones that play fast, particularly EVH and Yngwie. I hate it when people can't realize that there are different uncomparable styles.

[rubin3364]

lolwut, no Bob Dylan guest appearance?

[Bidinski]

I hate Dave too

[voodoochild23]

I could never imagine Slash and Jack White together in a song. Would have been epic though. He should have let Jack play drums, his drumming in The Dead Weather is awesome

[Panasonic3]

uhh, ew on slash.

my opinion of mr white is declining too.

[Eifler121]

I think it's really actually cool that White turned down the oppurtunity. It's a pretty humble and honest thing to do in my opinion.

[Eifler121]

And the Dead Weather sucked