Metallica Talk On 'Nutty' New Album

Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich recently spoke to Revolver magazine about the band's much-anticipated new album, tentatively due in the spring via Warner Bros. Records.

"This stuff is certainly a lot more dynamic and a lot more varied than the last couple of go-rounds," he said. "There's a lot of light and shade in these songs. There's heavy, fast, nutty stuff, and then there's some slowdowns and musical interludes. It's pretty different from 'St. Anger', and it's pretty different from the 'Load' stuff. This stuff is not the one-dimensional punch in the face that 'St. Anger' was. This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8.'"

When asked if the material represents a return to the "old school," Lars replied, "I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the fuck? Lars lied to us!' But it feels that way to me. It's been no secret that Rick [Rubin, producer] suggested to us that we use a couple of those records as reference points — that we spend some time kind of accessing that headspace. So when we would come to forks in the road, sometimes the exercise became, 'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

For more of Revolver's conversation with Lars Ulrich, pick up the February 2008 issue of the magazine, available on newsstands now. More information is available at Revolvermag.com.

Thanks for the into to Blabbermouth.net.

Comments

[[ LiAm ]]

about time they started recording stuff like the good ol days of MoP

[Birdy266]

Well thats good to know

[Decembero]

This is good news, I have nothing against St. Anger but I listen to it much less than their old stuff.

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA! I hope its a modern twist on the old stuff, I cant f*cking wait, I know it will be good no matter what period of Metallica's history it sounds most like.

[KingSquall802]

This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8

yeah, 80's! those were Metallica's golden era!

[ArcanaFang]

Can't wait 'till this album is released, and of course, James' voice is so awesome, mostly when he's live, so I know that newfound voice combined with the classic guitar parts seen through Kill Em All and Master of Puppets will be gold!

[Kitson_The_Bass]

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

[Sapient]

The news Metallica that is giving out is making me wonder whether they're going back to their roots or just trying to pretend like themselves from the '80s.

[recliner33]

hopefully they put an instrumental or two on this album. I think their instrumentals are when they are at the top of their game. Orion and call of the ktultu are probably my favourite metallica songs.

[Dethdrummer]

It's funny...Lars keeps talking to UG and I never learn anything new about the album that I didn't know. Anyway, can't wait for the album...when it comes.

[TokaiRocker2000]

Oh mann I really hope its like the eighties ones!

[duncang]

Should be a very interesting album to listen to, and a good one. I hope that nobody's expecting a real thrash album, just because Lars said it'll be 'a little more' like that. If I had to use a past album for it to be closest to, I would go with the black album.

[TokaiRocker2000]

When is the album coming out in england?

[face_the_fear]

If this new stuff is like MoP stuff but modern then in my head I just get the feeling it will be like Machine Heads "The Blackening"

Or is that too much to ask for from these guys nowadays

[solo_freak]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

he was important but metallica still managed to record 2 great albums after his death

[kinghate69]

i read somewhere that this is supposed to be the "missing link" between justice and black

[USCENDONE BENE]

I like how whenever they talk about the new album they say how different it is to St. Anger (and in this case Load too). Trying to win some fans back? I think so. Still, im very excited for this to be released.

[Shabalaba]

I think you guys have taken the news wrong. He said

I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the ****? Lars lied to us!' But it feels that way to me. It's been no secret that Rick [Rubin, producer] suggested to us that we use a couple of those records as reference points

This doesnt mean it will be like MoP, it may have some parts like that but read the part where he says "What the ****? Lars lied to us!", i think this implies it wont be what you think it will. Personally i think alot of it will be like the Black album with parts of MoP thrown in. But i cant wait for this album

[The Novice]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

No one who's really into Metallica would underestimate Cliff's importance in the band, that does not mean however that they can't make good music.

Reading this made waiting for the new album even harder, I wish we get to hear a bass solo from Trujillo.

[Mr.Garreth]

Well everyone knows (even Kerry King) that Metallica were untouchable in the 80's. When Metallica is on top, no band comes close to them. They road on this fame a little during the 90's. But this is the perfect time for the kings to make their comeback. There has been a revival in metal since about 2004 and generally that means the old schoool legends comeback to kick some butt.

[Harvester_of_So]

soooo.... when the album is coming out?

[Harvester_of_So]

sooo... when the album is comeing out?

[ibikinz]

THANKS LARS WE LOVE YOU!

[metallord61]

gud im glad!

[UncleCthulhu]

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004

No there hasn't.

[gooey moo]

this sounds like it could ge good...

[5_Strings]

The Novice wrote:

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.


No one who's really into Metallica would underestimate Cliff's importance in the band, that does not mean however that they can't make good music.

+1

[Jawshuwa]

Shabalaba wrote:

I think you guys have taken the news wrong. He said
I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the ****? Lars lied to us!' But it feels that way to me. It's been no secret that Rick [Rubin, producer] suggested to us that we use a couple of those records as reference points

This doesnt mean it will be like MoP, it may have some parts like that but read the part where he says "What the ****? Lars lied to us!", i think this implies it wont be what you think it will. Personally i think alot of it will be like the Black album with parts of MoP thrown in. But i cant wait for this album

No, I think what Lars is attempting to say is they -want- to do more Kill 'Em All - ...And Justice For All type songs, but let's face it, they're not in that era anymore. They don't write songs, lyrics or instrument parts like they did in the old days. I understand perfectly what Lars is saying -- some people thought "The New Song" had an ...And Justice For All feel, while others screamed "St. Anger Part II." Whether or not that song will be on the album or not, which I believe they said it won't be, isn't important; they've showcased two songs with their minds set on the '80s, and -I- wasn't too disappointed. James' voices has gotten better since their debut play, in my opinion, Kirk's pulling out the stops with his solos, everyone will always think Lars as a horrible drummer -- I think he does his job as a drummer, and that's good enough for me -- and now we have Trujillo, an -astounding- bassist added to the roster. It won't be Master of Puppets; I don't even want it to be Master of Puppets. I just want it to be fresh, with some spice from the old days.

Bring back thrash ? No. Bring back good music.

[pfa]

I had an issue of classic rock and in the front it showed metallica in recording studio with lars holding up a piece of paper with track names. It seemed to say stuff like:

27. jazz stuff
36. mars volta type song

so i'm expecting some new style metallica shit...should be interesting.

[coobface]

Is it just me or has every album by them in the last 10 years been "just like the good old days...?" Hopefully it is for real this time tho!

[luvmygibby]

I just hope that Rick Rubin doesn't mess up Metallica's new album like he did Linkin Park's. All the hype of that Linkin Park album and it sucked ass bad...

[lilboisX3]

QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND BE HAPPY THEY ARE MAKING A NEW ALBUM FOR YOU UNGRATEFUL WHINY FANS

[coobface]

lilboisX3 wrote:

QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND BE HAPPY THEY ARE MAKING A NEW ALBUM FOR YOU UNGRATEFUL WHINY FANS

You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

[stondagain]

Kirk's pulling out the stops with his solos,

Kirk hasn't been able to play a good lead in 10 years. He's been TERRIBLE live. I hope he's been practicing like a madman because he has flat-out sucked. I think there's a reason they decided not to have any leads on St. Anger, because they would have BLOWN.

[Mr_Dark]

lilboisX3 wrote:

QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND BE HAPPY THEY ARE MAKING A NEW ALBUM FOR YOU UNGRATEFUL WHINY FANS

+1 =)

[JustinBrand]

Cliff Burton WAS the heart and soul of metallica. He was the influence that made kill, Ride, and Puppets amazing. But, James wrote Justice their heaviest and in MY OPPINION their best. But just because they say it will be like the old stuff doesn't mean that they can be as creative as they where when they were fresh in the game and younger. They are not as lively on stage anymore... I know i say them in 2004. I have since seen megadeth and anthrax (reunion) both twice and they were both as insane as they were when they were young. Everyone has high expiations in Metallica that (I pray to god come true) but the probably and most likely won't. St. Anger Blows, Reload Sucks, Load was terrible and the Black Album is highly overrated. There is a very rare chance they can live up to their old selves as in their first four amazing albums.

[JustinBrand]

Don't get my above comment wrong i love metallica they have been my favorite band since 4th grade but... they don't have that "Creative Spark" or "Creative Flow" anymore.

[goddamncanadian]

just release the damn album already!
it's like everytime i come on UG, and see a headline with the word "Metallica", i get a massive boner, thinking it's all of the album details, release date, etc.. then when it turns out to be another interview, i go soft faster than my patience for st.anger. AHHH

[skinnyman_g]

Decembero wrote:

This is good news, I have nothing against St. Anger but I listen to it much less than their old stuff.

I have a lot against St. Anger. That's why I don't listen to it.

[jayrhox]

everyone has their own comments, but none the less- i'm still a fan. i'm gonna buy the album, and i'm gonna like it , i know i am, cuz i have since kill em' all. Sure, every album has it's strong points, but come on people! It's gonna be good or bad anyways. I'm still gonna buy it anyways, there will be songs that i like bettter than others anyways.

[twistedriffster]

st. anger was way better than most give it credit for, just cause it's different doesn't make it bad.

[This1GoesTo11]

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

[Metallica708]

I can't wait for this one

[Stampede]

Well let's just hope theyre not puttin him up to saying that

[Langerz1991]

If james had tried a little harder to sing in key and the production was better and that annoying snare was destroyed, st.angerz would have been a hell lot better. Then again i still think its awesome!
Cant wait for this album, its gonna rule =)

[Absent Mind]

So much for the february release

[Langerz1991]

anger*

[metallica144]

the same news as other metallica news here on UG -.-' why don't they reveal the name of the album or something-.-'anyway, i have good hope for the new album if it's really going to sound like the black album , then that's a big step forward.

[sowhat360]

i think this is the most honest input i've ever heard about a new album from a band....usually it's "we've been working real hard and i think this is the best album we've ever put together" blah blah blah. this sounds to me that they are really working hard on putting together the best album they can and going back and analyzing what made them the best metal band around. bring back the into solo!!!! fade to black/one/welcome home baby!!

[MSJChE]

The melodic interludes within songs in Ride, Master, Justice and Black are what made them so great. People mention that the 8-minute epics where their best, and I think they'll use them again in the new album.

[Langerz1991]

MSJChE wrote:

The melodic interludes within songs in Ride, Master, Justice and Black are what made them so great. People mention that the 8-minute epics where their best, and I think they'll use them again in the new album.

They better! the interlude in master of puppets is one of the best things about that song

[pwrmax]

Looks like we're looking at another "... And Justice for All" style album, yay. I wonder how Rob's songwriting is...

[pwrmax]

metallica144 wrote:

the same news as other metallica news here on UG -.-' why don't they reveal the name of the album or something-.-'anyway, i have good hope for the new album if it's really going to sound like the black album , then that's a big step forward.

I think they're still arguing about which song to use as the title track.

[Shabalaba]

Jawshuwa wrote:

Shabalaba wrote:

I think you guys have taken the news wrong. He said
I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the ****? Lars lied to us!' But it feels that way to me. It's been no secret that Rick [Rubin, producer] suggested to us that we use a couple of those records as reference points

This doesnt mean it will be like MoP, it may have some parts like that but read the part where he says "What the ****? Lars lied to us!", i think this implies it wont be what you think it will. Personally i think alot of it will be like the Black album with parts of MoP thrown in. But i cant wait for this album

No, I think what Lars is attempting to say is they -want- to do more Kill 'Em All - ...And Justice For All type songs, but let's face it, they're not in that era anymore. They don't write songs, lyrics or instrument parts like they did in the old days. I understand perfectly what Lars is saying -- some people thought "The New Song" had an ...And Justice For All feel, while others screamed "St. Anger Part II." Whether or not that song will be on the album or not, which I believe they said it won't be, isn't important; they've showcased two songs with their minds set on the '80s, and -I- wasn't too disappointed. James' voices has gotten better since their debut play, in my opinion, Kirk's pulling out the stops with his solos, everyone will always think Lars as a horrible drummer -- I think he does his job as a drummer, and that's good enough for me -- and now we have Trujillo, an -astounding- bassist added to the roster. It won't be Master of Puppets; I don't even want it to be Master of Puppets. I just want it to be fresh, with some spice from the old days.

Bring back thrash ? No. Bring back good music.

+1 that is what i was trying to get across

[Menza_]

I pray to you Cliff help make your boys make a good Metallica album

[xXx Hobbes xXx]

I hope they still plan on releasing their first single as a Rock Band download. What a cool way to expose your new album?!?!?

[Eirien]

This stuff is not the one-dimensional punch in the face that 'St. Anger' was. This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8.'

when was the last time metallica released an album that they didn't say that about?

[headstone05]

I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst on this one. It's true they started going downhill after Justice (Thanks in part to Bob Rock) hopefully Rubin will ressurect(?) them.

[VikingMetalhead]

Damn right! Actually, even though I'm a huge Metallica-fan, I don't have any songs from Load, Reload or the Black Album (too much "radio-focused") on my mp3-player. I do own them, all of Metallica's albums (including bootlegs) are in my book shelf, but I haven't taken the time loading them to my mp3-player. That's because I love "Master of Puppets", "Ride the Lightning" and "...And Justice For All"... "Kill 'em All" as well. Hope their new one will be like them. But I'll buy it anyway, for god's sake, it's ****in Metallica!!!

[r3conmarine90]

You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

[stl-dizy]

FUK YER METALLICA ALL THE WAY!

[almostdvs222]

Im kind of affraid to see the new album

[drumpat]

Is this becoming a Chinese Democracy?

[Local666Union]

Let's hope that the album is good.
If it will be a second black album I'll be very happy

[hiddeninromance]

5 reasons why i didn't like st anger.
1.in my opinion not james' best vocal performance. it is slightly off key in places.
2. the drums are lazy, lars is a great drummer but in this album it just seems to be double bass drum for double bass drum sake.
3.droped c tuning just made everything sound ugly, it also breeded problem 4 which is
4.lack of melodies. the melodies either didn't exist or just were no where near as sophisticated as the could be. i just felt some of the riffs and melodies were very simplistic and sounded quite cheesy in the sense that a pretty bad teenage garage metal band woul right simmilar.
and 5. i really missed the solos.

now i am in by no means a metal fan. i prefer the likes of bob dylan, bright eyes elliot smith whatever. I just like good music, metallica always appealed to me as they had some pretty amazing music, i just felt their talent and what i personally like about them wasn't shown on that album. or more wasn't consistently shown.
still i look forward to this new one =]

[deadlyMETAL]

Yay, Metallica making their old sound new again!

[Elmo Jade Blue]

twistedriffster wrote:

st. anger was way better than most give it credit for, just cause it's different doesn't make it bad.

Thank you for saying this, I couldn't have said it better myself

[dbdarrell]

There are plenty of other reasons its bad besides its differance. But I'm excited to hear this should be closer to the old stuff. And Kirk had said somethin about have more solos in this one.

[Elmo Jade Blue]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

I love St Anger I personally have nothing against it. I bet you people can only think of at least 2 and thats about it.

[SL!!!]

This is funny. Basically he's saying the producer is telling them what to write.

[RockFreak000]

Rick runbin made slipknot tune their guitars and play solos, so im wondering what this gonna sound like...

[Elmo Jade Blue]

dbdarrell wrote:

There are plenty of other reasons its bad besides its differance. But I'm excited to hear this should be closer to the old stuff. And Kirk had said somethin about have more solos in this one.

Why cause they decided not to have guitar solo's in it. Or it wasn't fast enough for you. Ok I can see that, but mabe they didn't want to do the same formula they have been doing for how long now. Maybe they wanted somthing different.

Now answer this, if this album only has 3 guitar solos in it would you all think it sucked, or would u all like it cause it had those 3 solos. Lets say every song had solos but the tempo of the songs were the same tempo of the songs on st anger, would u all think it sucked because of that.

I understand that A LOT of people don't like St Anger and thats fine, and their is very few that do like it. I don't think its Metallica's fault, I respect them making it even if I hate it or like it. I think it goes to show that most people are scared of change and are willing to say someone sucks and call them names just because of that.

Just my opinion.

[Andras5soul]

they said the same thing about st. anger. I'll believe it when I see it! hoping for the best though.

[dbdarrell]

I agree that solos are around to make songs better. Not every song NEEDS a solo. But Kirk took lessons from Satriani why would you note utalize his abilities. Its just my opinion the whole album was James crying about his rehab and battleing his alcholism. They've lost the anger and determination they had before. Listen to Kill 'em All then St Anger. Then youll understand why no one likes their new album.

[DaveGilmour1189]

SL!!! wrote:

This is funny. Basically he's saying the producer is telling them what to write.

well if anything metallica has done in the past 15 years is a clue, they shouldn't be allowed to make their own descisions.

[travislausch]

hiddeninromance wrote:
2. the drums are lazy, lars is a great drummer but in this album it just seems to be double bass drum for double bass drum sake.
3.droped c tuning just made everything sound ugly, it also breeded problem 4 which is

For me, the lazy drumming is Lars' biggest problem with every album. He's too "open". His hi-hats never seem to close. Instead of a precise drum attack, he just wallops you with a wash of sound.

And Dropped-C tuning isn't the culprit behind the horrible guitar sound. The production is. There are plenty of bands who play in Dropped-C who have brilliant production values and sound absolutely great. Listen to Pain Of Salvation's "BE" album. You wouldn't even realize they're playing in the same tuning on the E and A strings as Metallica were on St. Anger until you tried to play along with it.

[kevolution23]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1) The snare sounds like a trashcan.
2) Every song on the album sounds like the next song.
3) The guitar tone sounds horrible.

Someone continue the list. I rather not think of St. Anger.

[Hdap101]

r3conmarine90 wrote:


You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

Great currency knowledge there man. That was a pound sign....we use it in Britain.

Well, Rubin managed to help Slayer be continually ok, so he can help Metallica release another good album. Personally, I love all metallica albums apart from St. Anger. the 90s just proved the Metallica had the capacity to explore other musical direction, something which the other of the big 4 thrash bands have yet to really do. Although this has solos, the snare's turned on....it's looking to be the best in a while

[TANKER69]

solo_freak wrote:

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.


he was important but metallica still managed to record 2 great albums after his death

What r u talkin about man and justice for all wasnt overly great, the best some was to live is to die which was a bunch of cliffs riffs everything after that sucked

[traumetal]

Lars has become such a commercial bitch , eversince Napster was brought down it has been downhill for Metallica.

[frankv]

USCENDONE BENE wrote:

I like how whenever they talk about the new album they say how different it is to St. Anger (and in this case Load too). Trying to win some fans back? I think so. Still, im very excited for this to be released.

They do it because a lot fans have said it will sound like Saint Anger. Lars just tried to tell them it won't.

[recliner33]

kevolution23 wrote:

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1) The snare sounds like a trashcan.
2) Every song on the album sounds like the next song.
3) The guitar tone sounds horrible.

Someone continue the list. I rather not think of St. Anger.

4.) The songs are repetetive and go nowhere
5.) Bob Rock played bass on it
6.) The lyrics are bad

[NorCalLos]

travislausch wrote:

hiddeninromance wrote:
2. the drums are lazy, lars is a great drummer but in this album it just seems to be double bass drum for double bass drum sake.
3.droped c tuning just made everything sound ugly, it also breeded problem 4 which is


For me, the lazy drumming is Lars' biggest problem with every album. He's too "open". His hi-hats never seem to close. Instead of a precise drum attack, he just wallops you with a wash of sound.

And Dropped-C tuning isn't the culprit behind the horrible guitar sound. The production is. There are plenty of bands who play in Dropped-C who have brilliant production values and sound absolutely great. Listen to Pain Of Salvation's "BE" album. You wouldn't even realize they're playing in the same tuning on the E and A strings as Metallica were on St. Anger until you tried to play along with it.

Same goes for System of a Down.

[NorCalLos]

The part about dropped C.

[This1GoesTo11]

I think the lyrics on St. Anger are quite good. In fact, I think they are more expressive than most of his lyrics. I can't think of one Metallica song that is a truly great lyric, which could stand without music. Even "Fade to Black" would read like the poerty of a middle school kid when you take away the music. But let's face it, James Hettfield is no Bob Dylan. Never was. Never will be.

[Me@UGC]

Elmo Jade Blue wrote:

twistedriffster wrote:

st. anger was way better than most give it credit for, just cause it's different doesn't make it bad.

Thank you for saying this, I couldn't have said it better myself

+1

Yes, it doesnt have solos nor interlude melodies but hey, it's not meant to have. Lets face it: metallica were in shitty mood when they made the songs and so the songs in St.Anger reflect that: their ugly, raw and hard to digest.

Is it a likable album?

No way! You really have to put yourself in the place of someone who is going through the same they went.

Most people can't do this.

[Jaffaps2]

god damn it just do another thrash album already.

[euan_soad]

recliner33 wrote:

hopefully they put an instrumental or two on this album. I think their instrumentals are when they are at the top of their game. Orion and call of the ktultu are probably my favourite metallica songs.

They won't, they think instrumentals are filler songs. IMO that is bollocks- if a song has vocals its immediately non filler?

[-MetalUpYourAss]

i really can't wait any longer to hear their new album, but guess i have to lol

[kaptink]

r3conmarine90 wrote:


You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

...You do know that's a pound sign, not the Euro right?

And as long as this album has on big ****-off track like enter sandman it'll do.

[TK1]

1880?

"blow the man down" is not the type of stuff id expect metallica to cover XD

[phenom1991]

r3conmarine90 wrote:


You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

Lawl...it was the pound sign This is euro= €

[perilouspete]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

There are definitely some kick ass songs on there, and I never get sick of Frantic, it's just heavy as f*ck. But after a while, the songs just kind of wear on and there's too much similarity in all the riffs. But it is what it is, if you just think of it more as a one-off garage band album, and less as an epic metallica album that's supposed to live up to all these standards, then it's pretty good.

[#Black Label]

Well let's hope it's really a return to Metallica's old style... I want a kickass album from them right now!

[XxRustInPeacexX]

metallica was at their best when the still had dave mustaine...

[kevolution23]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

I think the lyrics on St. Anger are quite good. In fact, I think they are more expressive than most of his lyrics. I can't think of one Metallica song that is a truly great lyric, which could stand without music. Even "Fade to Black" would read like the poerty of a middle school kid when you take away the music. But let's face it, James Hettfield is no Bob Dylan. Never was. Never will be.

St. Anger 'round my neck repeated over and over again? Frantic-tic-tic-toc? You kiddin' me?

Metallica was never good lyrically, but they were never bad lyrically. AJFA had some good lyrics, so did a few songs from other albums.

I'd only like St. Anger for the emotional/angry environment.. but anyone can put together a few songs with heavy drop C riffs and chords and max gain and add some 'madly in anger with you' and it would sound good when they're angry. It would sound like another St. Anger.

[Teufel]

They haven't released any songs from the new album have they? Some comments made out as if they had.

[[x]Huffy[x]]

coobface wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND BE HAPPY THEY ARE MAKING A NEW ALBUM FOR YOU UNGRATEFUL WHINY FANS

You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

Who cares?
a new album is a new album.

[stumaster18]

KingSquall802 wrote:

This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8


yeah, 80's! those were Metallica's golden era!

You know why he said this? So the fans disappointed by St. Anger will still buy this follow-up piece of crap.

Go Napster!

[Hammerzeit]

In my insignificant opinion, Metallica have not made a decent album since the black album. That was over 15 years ago. Since then, not so good. Why? They had no Cliff Burton. He contributed to Kill' em All, RTL and MoP. He has some writing credits on And Justice for all. Only the black album was decent out of stuff that cliff did not contribute to.

Metallica lost their songwriting force in 1986. I cam only hope with a good bassist like Trujillo on board, we can finally see something like the shadow of the mid 80's titan that was metallica. If the albums anything near their wembley show, we could be in for a treat.

[Decembero]

skinnyman_g wrote:

Decembero wrote:

This is good news, I have nothing against St. Anger but I listen to it much less than their old stuff.



I have a lot against St. Anger. That's why I don't listen to it.

Thats good then... I know a lot of people dont like St. Anger, but I dont think anyone should hate Metallica for releasing that album.

[jackson soloist]

is it possible that metallica maybe able to bring back the glory of real metal music? will it end the reign of people thinking hardcore = heavy?

[lilboisX3]

jackson soloist wrote:

is it possible that metallica maybe able to bring back the glory of real metal music? will it end the reign of people thinking hardcore = heavy?

fyi hardcore music is pretty damn heavy. metal=/= the end all be all of heavy. just cause you dont like it doesnt mean you have to be an idiot

[MESAexplorer]

They might as well give up. I've done lost interest in the new album, they're taking way too long. 3 years ago it was going to be released in 07, then when 07 rolls around it's going to be released near the end of 07. 3 months ago it was supposed to be relased in feb., now it's pushed all the way back to spring which is probably somewhere around in reality.

[stumaster18]

Please keep in mind this is a board for Metallica, not a USA/UK battle.

I'm from Canada, so I'm pretty much all 3 of those.

[MSJChE]

Hey, wait a minute!

Lars: "I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the ****?..."

Damn it, does that mean a June release now?!!!

[SicSeb]

"This stuff is certainly a lot more dynamic and a lot more varied than the last couple of go-rounds," he said.

Sooo... The last couple of so-called 'go-arounds' were just a way to fatten their bankaccounts?
Furthermore, going back to the 80's, the time when they were killer, good idea, but I feel it is a bit forced, they aren't doing this for themselves but more to salvage their ever declining reputation as one of the biggest metalbands. Because they haven't been leading the pack now for more than a decade.
Also, first he said that it's nothing like St. Anger (They know most of their fans hated it) and now he adds Load in the mix. Well, they are really trying to get rid of the ghosts from their past.

They just made albums that were different or even pretty sucky, but you can't just make the same album over and over again because when you get stail like that, your fans would still bitch. You can't please everybody and they shouldn't try to neither.
It's their bands and they should do whatever they want to do. Make the music they want to make and experiment if they like.
I just hope that it will be a great album, an album they haven't written in quite some time and to show that they still got it.

[FooCards]

"I hate to be that specific, because six months from now people are gonna go, 'What the ****? Lars lied to us!

Kinda like waht we did a few years ago when that shitfest St. Anger was given to us

[HavokStrife]

I thought this was supposed to come out in January or February? Either way, if it's gunna be better than St Anger, anytime in 2008 works just fine.

[Megahertzz]

It sounds like they're trying to "force" out another Master Of Puppets. It can go both ways...

[AnoKid09]

i'll just download it.....

[highwaysalmon]

sounds good to me

[pouyannassiri]

i cant wait!!!!! im pretty sure it'll be good cause personally i didnt hate st.anger (althought it wasnt as good as the other records) but they seriously need to release it earlier im dying to hear it!

[KnifelineAttack]

[quote]5_Strings wrote:

The Novice wrote:

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.


No one who's really into Metallica would underestimate Cliff's importance in the band, that does not mean however that they can't make good music.


Personally, my favorite Metallica album is ...And Justice For All, and that was without Burton. He did play a huge part, but Metallica is capable of, or at least I hope they are, creating great metal without Cliff. James is one of the greatest riffwriters there is.

[rebreh]

Good rick rubin is producin, hopefully he does a better job than when he produced linkin park.

[bloke]

what is it with fans and people whinging about why a band is bring out an album, and what it should sound like, they're artists, unless you know their inner most thoughts and them as a person you can't possibly say why they are bringing this out... and who really cares...

an album will be released in music stores by metallice this year sometime because people will buy it.. it is your choice whether you want to buy it, listen to it, and then it is your choice whether you like it or not.. ITS NOT your choice what they bring out, how they bring it out or for what reason they bring it out, that is their right as artists...

so just appreciate the music for what it is, if you don't like it then fine... if you do then great, but stop whinging because they haven't pleased you by sucking you off personally and bringing out exactly what you want to hear because it ain't gonna happen, it's very easy to be a critic of someone, harder to create something for people to criticise...

[BBoyBlaZe]

geez guys...metallica has to be let go ffs...its over...

[PUNKfromNORWAY]

yes! didn't like st anger album, probably the worst metallica album ever, but the old school rocks!! must see them in summer

Checked.

[King Of Suede]

I'm probebly gonna end up buying this album one way or another. Not saying if I'm excited about it, but I'm deffinatly not gonna look the other way. Whatever happens, happens. I really hope that metallica doesn't let down their origional fans or just fans of the old-school... again.

[Black Star]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

*sigh*

1. Drums sound like trash cans.
2. James off key.
3. Horrible production.
4. Repetitive.
5. Bob Rock..... enough said.

[hermosillo94]

thank god!!!i like the older stuff

[SEbI666]

i wanna have a new justice for all, there best one

[Robert Judkins]

After St. Anger being so poor and badly received I thought this would happen. AND IT DID.

[ExDeath]

This album will come out when Chineese Democracy comes out. I've been hearing about this new album since the release of their last album. Lets face it. Whats the last metallica album you liked. Black album, Justice for all? Now their just riding on their fame and making new albums for the money. Stop fooling yourselves and think that they actually care if it is good. As long as it sells. Thats all they care about.

[onslaughton]

yea its probably gonna suck

[jane_says]

alright, so everybodys excited about this nu album, a few of my points of view:

1. This album already rules if u saw the 2 nu songs via video or concert

2. St. anger sucked, so wat, if u dont like it, y dont u remember the other albums, i hate it wen a suck album comes out for a band and all of a sudden they suck (via american idiot) get over it, if u dont like that album, dont listen 2 it

3. Kirk does not suck, kirk is a guitar god, the only thing he's been progressively doing is turning up his mids to give a little bit more clarity with his tones.

4. and finally, dont listen to anything any members of metallica says to judge this album, get it wen it comes out, its gonna b a great album, i just hav a feeling

[phoetwny]

im thinking the humility from st.anger is gonna make this album/cd one of there best i dont think they got dethroned ,jus a punch in the nose

[deathmetalegend]

okay lets start here, these guys haven't released a decent album since 1987, they claimed that 'st. anger' was a return to thrash metal, and i've already heard one of these 'new songs' off this album, and its still 'nu metal'....face it now, metallica are NEVER ever going to write a thrash metal song again, the 80s is gone, and since the black album (big disapointment to me) these guys saying they'll be writing thrash is about as promising as if limp bizcuit say they're gonna be writing a death metal album

[slashNpage77]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:


I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

dont get me wrong, burton is one of my favorite bassists, but all im saying is that And justice for all was pretty good, too. so, even though cliff did add a lot, they're still capable of pulling off a good album w/o him

[[x]Huffy[x]]

jane_says wrote:

alright, so everybodys excited about this nu album, a few of my points of view:

1. This album already rules if u saw the 2 nu songs via video or concert

2. St. anger sucked, so wat, if u dont like it, y dont u remember the other albums, i hate it wen a suck album comes out for a band and all of a sudden they suck (via american idiot) get over it, if u dont like that album, dont listen 2 it

3. Kirk does not suck, kirk is a guitar god, the only thing he's been progressively doing is turning up his mids to give a little bit more clarity with his tones.

4. and finally, dont listen to anything any members of metallica says to judge this album, get it wen it comes out, its gonna b a great album, i just hav a feeling

1. It has been confirmed that only small parts such as riffs/melodies from those 2 songs would appear on the new album.

2. Actually, St. Anger sucked IN YOUR OPINION. I think its quite a misunderstood album, and Metallica only get stigma for it because it was completely different to anything they'd done before.

3. No-one gives a damn about his tone, and good tone certainly doesn't make you a guitar god.

4. I agree. But hey, as long as they deliver the goods, they can spew all the bullshit in the world, as far as I care.

[mrmrcactus]

i dont really like their new stuff, but im acctually curious about their new album

[Quikslayer666]

it sounds like this album ain't coming up til june or july. hint "7 months from now". I don't care if its 7 or 10 months I just need a confirmed release date!

[restless_thrash]

Lars Ulrich said:
What would we have done at this point in 1985?

I think that they may be heading back to the oldies, and maybe some stuff that cliff WASN'T affiliated to, like "The thing that should not be". It would be just as great to see that stuff, and also, i hope that Rob picks up on some of Cliff's Technique. I am DEFINETLEY going to be first in line for this album.

'Tallica ROCKS!

[jetfuel495]

i cant wait for this. i heard it was coming out next month, but lars said "six months from now everyone will be like 'what the ****?'"

and i love how lars can say **** in the news article but we cant say **** in the comments

[zquizo4life]

FINALLY! It seems that Rick Rubin wade them understand that they needed to get their heads out of their asses, especially LARS, and start to recording some good Old School Metal back again!

THANK YOU MR.RUBIN!

[daniel c b]

cant wait

[rockr09]

It might not be a Metallica masterpeice, but I believe the album might be a step forward to one.

[silent caution]

1980....90's st.anger is all tallica is all good....cant wait for the new one

[METALHEAD 91zb]

I am so ****in' exicited for this album and Metallica's comeback to metal. And to all who dis them, and their music: F U C K Y O U A L L!

[rockr09]

I also can't wait to see what Rob does on bass also.

[Lou Hartoff]

Shit i cant wait

[acshadow25]

mmm nutty with a hint of caramel is what i hope the nu metallica album to be

[orgasmickey]

Oh I forgot about this band. I guess it will be interesting to hear something new.

[FargoDog]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1. Lars snare drum
2. No Kirk Solos.
3. Having your therapist write lyrics. No. Just No.
4. 8 Minute 5-Note Riffs
5. Nu-Metal Influences to the hilt.

This is the same thing that happened with Machine Head, I bet Metallica are gonna produce a decent old-school album, but their one after this will be WOAH. Or this one will be WOAH. Looking forward to it

[TranquilNight]

Jawshuwa wrote:
Bring back thrash ? No. Bring back good music.

What the hell?
I REALLY DO hope that the new album is like MOP or their other classics because time and time again Metallica's non-thrash albums were weak. And they were not weak because they weren't thrash.

[ercwlkr92]

Cant Fuking Wate ! (been wate'n long enough)

i hope it is different then the load reload shit

[Ibzman]

I think this will be a good comeback. There sure will be people disappointed but they only can be better, 'cause anybody can tell the Load era wasn't their best, and St Anger certainly isn't a good representation of what Metallica is capable of doing musically. I don't really have expectations, but if I were them I'd be pissed to hear that the best album I did was seventeen years ago and the stuff after was bullshit. I'd do my best for this album to be a kick in the ass for those who doubt Metallica could still rock.

[The_Seventh_Sin]

yes! finaly goin back 2 the old shit

[Kevin97220]

Man, I would hate to have all that pressure on me.
You gotta admire theses guys. The new album sounds promising. Can't wait.

[devin_g94]

can't wait!! cept the whole rick rubin thing brings back sad thoughts. (linkin park). lets hope metallica stays away from that lol.

[GibsonPWNS]

Man I dont know. I myself am super siked about the new metallica but I will say that I know a lot of people who this is really a last chance for them. And to be quite honest I think this album will seperate them from the rest of the greats. Now dont get me wrong, Kirk is great as a lead, and in all honesty I would be willing to say when I think of Metal I hear James's melodic thrash voice in my head, and will also say that imo he is the greatest as far as inspiring rythmn guitar and front man but I have to say that if this album doesnt hit they will be dropped in the abyss of all the other washed up has beens. But who gives a shite. They will always have been legendary.

[ihaterap69]

Quikslayer666 wrote:

it sounds like this album ain't coming up til june or july. hint "7 months from now". I don't care if its 7 or 10 months I just need a confirmed release date!

same

[metalgirl0]

I hope the new metallica will be better than St Anger

[i suck]

i just hope the album is good. i don't think it will be an and justice for all or mop good, but hopefully just a solid album

[Harry Krishner]

goddamncanadian wrote:

just release the damn album already!
it's like everytime i come on UG, and see a headline with the word "Metallica", i get a massive boner, thinking it's all of the album details, release date, etc.. then when it turns out to be another interview, i go soft faster than my patience for st.anger. AHHH

Nobody wants to know about your "boner".
perv!

[Brad52]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

can u give me 3 reasons y its a good album caus if u can il give u ur 5

[darkslde91]

This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8.'"

AHHHHH!!!! i cant WAIT!!!!! :m

[darkslde91]

[Me@UGC]

ExDeath wrote:

This album will come out when Chineese Democracy comes out. I've been hearing about this new album since the release of their last album. Lets face it. Whats the last metallica album you liked. Black album, Justice for all? Now their just riding on their fame and making new albums for the money. Stop fooling yourselves and think that they actually care if it is good. As long as it sells. Thats all they care about.

So... their postponing the release of the album to fatten their bank accounts?

Wait! I got it! Their gonna build up the hype (for... say... 10 years, like Chinese Democracy) of the fans on the new album so that, when it comes out, the band can have max income!

...lol...

The last album most people liked was justice or the black just 'cos people are a bunch of narrow minded metalheads. Jus 'cos it aint metal, doesnt mean it aint good...

[shut_up_n00b]

I really doubt it will sound as good as Kill 'em All without Cliff, but it want to be proven wrong.

[Stringz of Fury]

GibsonPWNS wrote:

Man I dont know. I myself am super siked about the new metallica but I will say that I know a lot of people who this is really a last chance for them. And to be quite honest I think this album will seperate them from the rest of the greats. Now dont get me wrong, Kirk is great as a lead, and in all honesty I would be willing to say when I think of Metal I hear James's melodic thrash voice in my head, and will also say that imo he is the greatest as far as inspiring rythmn guitar and front man but I have to say that if this album doesnt hit they will be dropped in the abyss of all the other washed up has beens. But who gives a shite. They will always have been legendary.

fer sure. Im giving this a 40% chance that it will be better than st. anger 30% chance it is a hit and 30% it just is terrible. im not so sure about james voice because i watch some recent concert videos and it jsut sounds so bad and his voice cracks sometimes and i know he damaged his voice but maybe sometime they should consider hiring a younger singer cuz i mean he is gettin a lil old too

[ICreamsodAI]

I HATE YOU LARS

Just thought you should know that

But regardless, metallica was quite possibly the very first band i ever liked, and bought the black album when i was like 6, but im not hesitant to say that metallicas lost touch from themselves in recent years


money is ok
the amount they made is like suicide

please, i hope theyve pulled their heads out of their asses, and if they come out with another dvd and whine the whole time, i will ****ing kill them...

lol some kind of monster was entertaining, but depressing at the same time

[LD_Luke D]

metallica was i think the first heavy metal band i have ever listened to, if its as good a master of puppets was, than that'll be insane! right now if you were to compare them to megadeth, megadeth wins, united abomination vs st anger, united ab. was much better, but maybe they can change that. it'd be nice to see metallica come out with actuall new music, im really pumped about it's release.

[Kyle_Daoust]

thank god. im gonna say that it will be kind of mainstream, post black album-ish but it will have the essence and general sound of old metallica

[Sintera666]

"What The Fuck? Lars Lied to us!"- Lars
lol, that is so true, but Im sure this album will be great!

[thrashking13]

This album is not going to be anything like MoP or anything they have done before each albuum of theres has been very different to the one that came before it soo i wouldnt get ur hopes up that its gonna be the saviour of metal but i do hope to c some more guitar solos from hammett.

[lkn2myiz]

Every album after .....And Justice For All sucked. Especially the black album.

[corrda00]

YAY metallica are back

[Cliff_Is_God]

Im guessing it will be a whole lot better than St. Anger, but i don't believe it will be in any range with MoP, Kill or Ride...I think it will be 75% Black, 15% ..AJFA, 10% St. Anger

[king_O_dudes]

This is probably a little more like those couple of albums back there in the decade that begins with an '8.'"

Oh man I hope he's right. I've got a good feeling about this album, but keep your fingers crossed.

[eddysmells]

Cliff_Is_God :
Im guessing it will be a whole lot better than St. Anger, but i don't believe it will be in any range with MoP, Kill or Ride...I think it will be 75% Black, 15% ..AJFA, 10% St. Anger

Even though Lars mention that they are going to do stuff from 1985, I kind of doubt this aswell. Hopefully it has elements from that time, but I doubt that they are creating an ablum that fits in with Kill'em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All.

[metal_licka]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1. No solo's
2. Please God can somebody please take the cow bell off Lars's drum kit and hit him over the head with it
3. More than one song per album guys
4. Why all the C tuning? i mean seriously, we love metallica as a thrash band, but some melody thrown in is a good thing. a GOOD thing
5. Where was the band we love, Metallica, when this album was written? I can accept change in bands, really i can, but when they change everything for the worse... what the hell man?
5.

[metal_licka]

XxRustInPeacexX wrote:

metallica was at their best when the still had dave mustaine...

so in your opinion a few songs off kill em all, which he didn't even record, are better than every other album combined?
good one.

also, don't get my wrong by my hate of st. anger up there ^^^ just personally, it's an album i hate, and it certainly doesn't mean i hate metallica (they're my favourite band). Looking forward to the new album... from what i can tell by "the new songs" it's gonna be pretty good.

[ironwolg]

wow, you people are really bashin lars on here. the reason his snare sounded the way it did was because he turned the snares off, danny carrey did it and Tool seems to have gotten plenty of success so what's wrong with lars doing it? the new album's gonna be great, there will be solos and the snares will turned on for all of you freaks who can't accept change

[JRB Dog!!]

1. No solo's
2. Please God can somebody please take the cow bell off Lars's drum kit and hit him over the head with it
3. More than one song per album guys
4. Why all the C tuning? i mean seriously, we love metallica as a thrash band, but some melody thrown in is a good thing. a GOOD thing
5. Where was the band we love, Metallica, when this album was written? I can accept change in bands, really i can, but when they change everything for the worse... what the hell man?
5.
POSTED: 01/10/2008 - 08:12 pm / quote |

1.shut the **** up
2.james was in rehab abt half the time the album was being recorded
3. they needed money
4.the old producer(which for some reason i cant remember his damn name) was an idiot
5.the album didnt suck...it just wasnt metallica, if i would of heard st. anger by another band on the radio i would have been like hey this is good man

[joshgiesbrecht]

BOOOOO Metallica sucks SOOOOO much... Common.. Give me some shit.. Email me.... [e-mail] .. I wanna hear what argument you have towards the good side of Metallica... They have ONE good song... Nothing Else Matters..

[metal_licka]

Stringz of Fury wrote:

maybe sometime they should consider hiring a younger singer cuz i mean he is gettin a lil old too

I'm pretty sure I hate you...

[metal_licka]

POSTED: 01/10/2008 - 08:12 pm / quote |

5.the album didnt suck...it just wasnt metallica, if i would of heard st. anger by another band on the radio i would have been like hey this is good man[/quote]

yeah that's usually by my excuse, imagine the album was by another band and like it that way... i've done it plenty of times ie: new silverchair album. but for some reason i just couldn't do it with st. anger... maybe because i just hate the SOUND of the album, not the fact that it's by metallica

[Mettliccaa]

Soo pumped!!!

[cj878]

Be good as long as it isnt the suck that was St Anger.

[jimzer]

it better have guitar solos that are impossible to do
and riffs that make you ant to rip a cats head off
f*** YEH!

[themexican04]

yayyyyy

[fishermankyle78]

ya, metallica,needs to return to its roots of the old day, like all bands,except the ozz,start to suck in there latter years, its hard to come back with something good, Id say the black album is the best they have had and always will be, I hope we are not dissapointed with this cd, I guess we will see

[wtfisthatadew]

UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.

idk about that

look at as i lay dying's new album
look at between the buried in me's colors
look at trivium for god sakes

there has been a revival, god dammit!

[Nor'Easterbass]

God bless you, Rick Rubin, for talking some sense into them!

[TC1223]

It's pretty different from 'St. Anger'

thank God

[Soadfan8]

If everything he says is true, then its gonna be damn sweet.

[psilocyndreams2]

wtfisthatadew :
UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.



idk about that

look at as i lay dying's new album
look at between the buried in me's colors
look at trivium for god sakes

there has been a revival, god dammit!

yeah, but trivium's album was just a bunch of unused metallica and pantera riffs thrown together with a couple breakdowns.

[LesPaulPwns]

Well, by "couple of albums", if he means the Garage Days albums, then I will be in Hog Heaven..... but I'm pretty sure he was referring to all albums in the 80's..... but man, fast, nutty, and aggressive totally describes the Garage Days stuff..... those two and ...And Justice for All are definitely their best stuff!

[LesPaulPwns]

Well, by "couple of albums", if he means the Garage Days albums, then I will be in Hog Heaven..... but I'm pretty sure he was referring to all albums in the 80's..... but man, fast, nutty, and aggressive totally describes the Garage Days stuff..... those two and ...And Justice for All are definitely their best stuff!

[RocksAwakening5]

This has got me excited.

[paintball4life]

Amazing..... i cannot wait.....i dont know if ill be able to sleep tonight.....when does it come out?

[paintball4life]

i hope it sounds like the black album....you know how you can just listen to the album over and over again....

[jpgilbert701]

wtfisthatadew wrote:

UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.



idk about that

look at as i lay dying's new album
look at between the buried in me's colors
look at trivium for god sakes

there has been a revival, god dammit!

I only agree with Colors and honestly i dont count that as only metal because those dudes are all over the place.

[jane_says]

[x]Huffy[x] wrote:

jane_says wrote:

alright, so everybodys excited about this nu album, a few of my points of view:

1. This album already rules if u saw the 2 nu songs via video or concert

2. St. anger sucked, so wat, if u dont like it, y dont u remember the other albums, i hate it wen a suck album comes out for a band and all of a sudden they suck (via american idiot) get over it, if u dont like that album, dont listen 2 it

3. Kirk does not suck, kirk is a guitar god, the only thing he's been progressively doing is turning up his mids to give a little bit more clarity with his tones.

4. and finally, dont listen to anything any members of metallica says to judge this album, get it wen it comes out, its gonna b a great album, i just hav a feeling


1. It has been confirmed that only small parts such as riffs/melodies from those 2 songs would appear on the new album.

2. Actually, St. Anger sucked IN YOUR OPINION. I think its quite a misunderstood album, and Metallica only get stigma for it because it was completely different to anything they'd done before.

3. No-one gives a damn about his tone, and good tone certainly doesn't make you a guitar god.

4. I agree. But hey, as long as they deliver the goods, they can spew all the bullshit in the world, as far as I care.

doesnt anybody read this b4 they go back and burn on it, i did not even come close to saying kirk was a guitar god because of his tone, in my personal opinion, i hate his tone, but thats just me. and through this whole thing u act as if u hate metallica, wats up with that

[Dakota078]

Lets pray its better than St. Anger.

[12.Gauge]

i think if they will try to make master of puppets part 2 it will die on its ass. They are too old to play this kind of style which requires top vocals guitar and drums-which they have all lost getting older. Even slayers last album kinda dived because its just a rehash. It will sound like another ****kin trivium. At least on St Anger they were trying to incorporate more modern riffs and song structures.

[TDAJGuitarist]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

I agree 100%....Cliff was the best part about Metallica and they have not been able to recreate what they did when Cliff was around....

[lukeshredpard]

12.Gauge wrote:

i think if they will try to make master of puppets part 2 it will die on its ass. They are too old to play this kind of style which requires top vocals guitar and drums-which they have all lost getting older. Even slayers last album kinda dived because its just a rehash. It will sound like another ****kin trivium. At least on St Anger they were trying to incorporate more modern riffs and song structures.

age has nothing to do with it.
look at megadeth

[deathpidgeon]

they should just kill themselves

[Kyle_Daoust]

joshgiesbrecht wrote:

BOOOOO Metallica sucks SOOOOO much... Common.. Give me some shit.. Email me.... [e-mail] .. I wanna hear what argument you have towards the good side of Metallica... They have ONE good song... Nothing Else Matters..

WTF???? obviously this guy is gay.

[12.Gauge]

lukeshredpard wrote:

12.Gauge wrote:

i think if they will try to make master of puppets part 2 it will die on its ass. They are too old to play this kind of style which requires top vocals guitar and drums-which they have all lost getting older. Even slayers last album kinda dived because its just a rehash. It will sound like another ****kin trivium. At least on St Anger they were trying to incorporate more modern riffs and song structures.

age has nothing to do with it.
look at megadeth

they are still okay technically but just rehashing same old thrash..you never saw the friedman/menza lineup live obviously-i did.

[Scorge]

goddamncanadian wrote:

just release the damn album already!
it's like everytime i come on UG, and see a headline with the word "Metallica", i get a massive boner, thinking it's all of the album details, release date, etc.. then when it turns out to be another interview, i go soft faster than my patience for st.anger. AHHH

wow.....you have no life.

[Scorge]

Kyle_Daoust wrote:

joshgiesbrecht wrote:

BOOOOO Metallica sucks SOOOOO much... Common.. Give me some shit.. Email me.... [e-mail] .. I wanna hear what argument you have towards the good side of Metallica... They have ONE good song... Nothing Else Matters..



WTF???? obviously this guy is gay.

this is called pissing people off for the fun of it.
it's a common side-effect to ED and homosexuality.

[demiphoenix]

they're idiots, look at bands that are influenced by their 1980's stuff...

they need to turn to motorhead, venom, and booze, then i'll believe them

[Nole07]

i would rather it be more like load and reload than 80s shit. but whatever.

[darkfire_storm]

r3conmarine90 wrote:


You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

that'd be great... if that actually meant euros. thats pounds genius.

[perilouspete]

lilboisX3 wrote:

jackson soloist wrote:

is it possible that metallica maybe able to bring back the glory of real metal music? will it end the reign of people thinking hardcore = heavy?

fyi hardcore music is pretty damn heavy. metal=/= the end all be all of heavy. just cause you dont like it doesnt mean you have to be an idiot

pretty sure not liking hardcore doesn't make you an idiot, i'd actually state the contrary. hardcore dancing is probably the most retarded thing i've ever seen in my life, luckily i've never witnessed it first-hand.

[jumpmanhat]

"one dimensional punch in the face" lol...
so thats what the cover was about...

[Blackholesun00]

"What would we have done at this point in 1985?"

I don't know, do drugs and guzzle alcohol?

[GATW]

Can this album hurry?!

I'm going menta;!

[i_am_metalhead]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

'What would we have done at this point in 1985?'"

Got drunk would have been my guess! But as James is tee-total now, that ain't happening!

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

You forget, my friend, that Rob Trujillo is a [very near] reincarnation of Cliff. He is an amazing bass player and writer and is a lot more vital to the band than that pos Newsted

Can't wait for this album!

[Set-Abominae]

Glad to hear about the return to their 80's roots. I really hope this album turns out to be amazing, but I just can't really see it happening. I'll keep the finger's crossed though.

[the_bi99man]

Harvester_of_So wrote:

soooo.... when the album is coming out?

Harvester_of_So wrote:

sooo... when the album is comeing out?

Sooo... I wonder if this guy looked back at his comment and actually thought he spelled "coming" wrong, and felt the need to "correct" it. That's just funny.

[the_bi99man]

Nole07 wrote:

i would rather it be more like load and reload than 80s shit. but whatever.

So, you don't actually listen to Metallica, do you? Or maybe you've just never heard 80s Metallica (which would reinforce the previous statement) and you think all music from the 80s was hair bands and glam metal. Are you like 13 or something?

[Mulldarran]

Can't ****ing wait!!

[the glue man]

I hope everybody downloads this album, and still think it sucks.

[x.brutal.x]

yayy! should be good =)

[guitarnut_xiix]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1. THE PRODUCTION SUCKED. Do you newbies not understand how important this is! I know and realize that St. Anger was supposed to sound like a garage recording, but Christ, garage recordings sound better. And we all knew it was Metallica and knew how they were recording it; no one with any common sense was fooled by it. This effort by Bob Rock was a serious mistake.
2. THE RIFFS. I think a lot of people who were disappointed with St. Anger are with me on this. I think that when we put in the album and cranked the first minute or two of “Frantic” a lot of us were feeling good and with high hopes of the rest of the album. Those main riffs felt good and heavy, and we liked it. But, after standing back a listening to what all came out for those following seventy-three minutes was a bunch of lame garbage. Keep in mind for most of us, we’ve been listening to these guys thrash out masterpieces, so to hear St. Anger come out of the same imaginations as Ride The Lightning and Master Of-Fucking Puppets, this stuff was a slap to the face. It may work for any other band, but not for Metallica.
3. NO SOLOS. What the **** is going on here? This is a plateau that Metallica was known for! Kirk Hammet can ****ing shred a guitar, and he’s aware of it. So, is it a surprise that he didn’t do solos? It would be, but I think we all still look at Metallica and feel that after all these years, Kirk is still the most feminine and ball-less person in the band. I’m willing to bet that Lars and Bob Rock pushed him over into believing that doing a solo on the album would be too “80’s”.
4. REHASHING OF GOOD LYRICS IN BAD WAYS. Anyone out there who has beat the shit out of anyone while in a mosh whilst listening to “Damage, Inc.” can agree with me to this. St. Anger showed some of the most lame “creativity” lyrics-wise. Hey, it worked for Ozzy. Metallica couldn’t pull it off.
5. DECENT SONG IDEAS DONE STUPIDLY. Really, who can’t agree with me on this. Does anybody understand what the **** “St. Anger” is about? And don’t even get me started on “Invisible Kid”. To think this came from James Hetfield pisses me off to an extent you wouldn’t believe. I don’t think he’s written a decent lyric since “King Nothing”.

So here’s my reasons why I think St. Anger sucked…a lot. If you disagree, fine. But, don’t put some stupid comment to this, A: because I don’t care, and B: because I know a lot of old school Metallica fans are going to agree with this.

[guitarnut_xiix]

On a lighter note, I am hoping that this new album is a good thing, and I hope the best for the guys. I don't believe in "back-tracking" when it comes to writing a new album, but I don't want another St. Anger-type thing. Amen.

[Second Rate]

JRB Dog!! wrote:



1. No solo's
2. Please God can somebody please take the cow bell off Lars's drum kit and hit him over the head with it
3. More than one song per album guys
4. Why all the C tuning? i mean seriously, we love metallica as a thrash band, but some melody thrown in is a good thing. a GOOD thing
5. Where was the band we love, Metallica, when this album was written? I can accept change in bands, really i can, but when they change everything for the worse... what the hell man?
5.
POSTED: 01/10/2008 - 08:12 pm / quote |1.shut the **** up
2.james was in rehab abt half the time the album was being recorded
3. they needed money
4.the old producer(which for some reason i cant remember his damn name) was an idiot
5.the album didnt suck...it just wasnt metallica, if i would of heard st. anger by another band on the radio i would have been like hey this is good man

The way i see it is.... if an album has to be "taken on it's own" and can't stand up to comparison to the other albums the band has done... then it sucks. People can blab on endlessly about open mindedness and defend these guys all they want to, but the way i see it, in regards to their abilities and songwriting, is this. Metallica are a band of slightly average musicians who were somehow able to craft three albums worth of pretty catchy thrash metal songs. Since then, it's just been on weak attempt at genre hopping after another: Prog > Hard Rock > some type of Grunge > Alternative > Nu Metal, each with a weaker and weaker result. And as for the arguments that it was Bob Rock that ruined them. Well, if they didn't want his input.... how difficult is it to just tell him no?

[Cyrus the great]

i think though i loverd all the old songs theyve created
all i care about is getting new and better and awesome and whteva gud stuff form the one and only METALLICA
u rule!!!!!

[citizens]

hope its not bullshit like their last five albums.

[kyleblackflag]

if this album doesnt kill i sure as hell will have given up on them

[saintjimmy924]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

exactly what I'm thinking!!!!!

[sa man]

**** yeah cant wait for the new album. st anger was a joke and load was alrite. its been more than 5 years since we have heard a album. i wanna hear some solos from kirk and some black album material. i agree with GIUTARNUT XIIX with 5 god reasons why st.anger

[sa man]

im a huge metallica fan but im sorry to say if this album is not good then metallica should stop making music

[Chiefwiddler]

The only Metallica album I listen to now is Ride The Lightning. Its the best they have made, in my opinion. Its got a couple of filler tracks in the middle, but the opening pairing of Fight Fire With Fire and Ride The Lightning is awesome! Then you`ve got For Whom The Bell Tolls, and Fade To Black. Then, after the filler, the awesome Creeping Death!

You can keep the rest of the albums. Apart from a couple of tracks. Maybe The Thing That Should Not Be, Blackened, and Sad But True are also classics in their own right.

[Decembero]

joshgiesbrecht wrote:

BOOOOO Metallica sucks SOOOOO much... Common.. Give me some shit.. Email me.... [e-mail] .. I wanna hear what argument you have towards the good side of Metallica... They have ONE good song... Nothing Else Matters..

Strange boy.

sa man wrote:

im a huge metallica fan but im sorry to say if this album is not good then metallica should stop making music

Even if it sells 5 copies, or 50 million, you cant tell a band and it's members to stop making music, you are a fan ffs put yourself in their position...

If music was your life, would you stop it? ever? even if a fan tells you to? No way man.

[BuzzY 424]

use all got nop idea metallica is fukin off tap

[Decembero]

There are so many people talking crap about Metallica, I hope this album blows people away and makes all the negative fans and critics shut the f*ck up once and for all. I cant see it happening though

[mr barnicals]

UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.

it's a total matter of opinion buddy

[chaseNbadguys]

Im not getting my hopes up. If they go back to their old sound then I will welcome them back with open arms. Again, not holding my breath

[Ali-b912]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1. The Riffs are crap and there is no solos (though they wouldnt fit in like kirk has said)


2. The vocals sound bad and uninteresting


3. The Songs sounded like they were supposed to be a bit meaningful but they sounded like "generic metal". from the one time i watched frantic on video i thought, it was about drink driving. yet it seemed alot like fuel. which is purely about an adrenaline rush. i like fuel, but frantic is craptacular. master of puppets has the basis of drugs. i personally think it displayed that well. if the tracks on st anger were supposed to they didnt.


4. the god damned snare drum.


5. the extensive use of computerised crap. it sounds like a cut and paste job on audacity.

there you go.

on another note, LARS SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT WHAT ITS GONNA BE LIKE AND REALEASE THE DAMN THING! i like everything up to justice. so far i have the 1989-2004 videos DVD and i like about 3 songs off load and reload that are on that DVD and about 3 from the black album. sandman is probably the last song by metallica that was as good as the older stuff.

[sevenchurches]

the one-dimensional punch in the face that 'St. Anger' was

more like the one-dimensional fart in the face

[jonnyharris1]

Does any one else find it really ironic given what lars says in the article that UG decided to use a picture of James from the video for the song St Anger

[Sanitarium91]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

I think the lyrics on St. Anger are quite good. In fact, I think they are more expressive than most of his lyrics. I can't think of one Metallica song that is a truly great lyric, which could stand without music. Even "Fade to Black" would read like the poerty of a middle school kid when you take away the music. But let's face it, James Hettfield is no Bob Dylan. Never was. Never will be.

Thank God he's not... no but seriously can't wait for the new album.

[chris_red]

UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.

Chill out

[geru]

metallica ruuuuules

[bikenutter]

is it just me or is all of thiss gonna be a synonym for "a load of shite". my hopes are not exactly high for this album...

[Saintanger20]

`Tallica's new stuff better be different from 'Load' and 'Reload'. Thos two albums blow BIG TIME. St. Anger kicks a** though.

[podT]

Metal Hammer: Does it feel like you owe anything to people who loved METALLICA in the early days but haven't liked too much of the band's music since the "Black Album?"

Lars: "Um, no. Not at all. I've a responsibility to my kids and to my lady to be a good partner. Also to myself, to create music that's honest, real and gets all three inches of my dick hard. Of course it's great to have as many people along for the ride as possibe. But when we put acoustic guitar into 'Fade To Black' 200 years ago, that's when the moaning started. We realized those people would always be around whatever we did. So, basically, we stopped trying to please them a long time ago."

[Langerz1991]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

I think the lyrics on St. Anger are quite good. In fact, I think they are more expressive than most of his lyrics. I can't think of one Metallica song that is a truly great lyric, which could stand without music. Even "Fade to Black" would read like the poerty of a middle school kid when you take away the music. But let's face it, James Hettfield is no Bob Dylan. Never was. Never will be.

Actually hetfield has written some great lyrics, just listen to the and justice for all album!

"You can do it your own way if its done just how i say"

i thought that was a great line =)

[Langerz1991]

chris_red wrote:

UncleCthulhu wrote:

Spoilers: They're only saying that because that's what everyone wants.

Mr.Garreth wrote:
There has been a revival in metal since about 2004



No there hasn't.

Chill out

There has, Thrash has seemed to make its come back. just listen to evile n you'll see what i mean

[slayerkills]

DaveGilmour1189 wrote:

SL!!! wrote:

This is funny. Basically he's saying the producer is telling them what to write.


well if anything metallica has done in the past 15 years is a clue, they shouldn't be allowed to make their own descisions.

No, what they wrote in the past fifteen years was based on principles they learned from Bob Rock. They had written and produced all the songs up to the black album. Now at the black album they had written all the music but Bob stepped in to produce and help make them sound as amazing as possible, which he did, but at the same time Bob instilled the thought process that bred load and reload and etc.

Now check this out, during the St. Anger process Bob Rock had played some shows with metallica as the bassist and realized how fun and energetic the old songs were to play, and i think he realized the true meaning of metal at that point and that he had ruined metallica. Ergo Rick Rubin.

[diabolus]

Don't count on this album being a kick-ass throw back to the true metal that Metallica once was. They said that St. Anger was supposed to be like that. The change in producers from Rock to Rubin should make a positive difference, but I seriously doubt that we will be hearing anything like MoP.

[diabolus]

Ali-b912 wrote:

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

Can someone give me 5 GOOD reasons why St. Anger is a bad record? Seriously. No Jokes. Because when I put it on, it sound pretty damn good to me.

1. The Riffs are crap and there is no solos (though they wouldnt fit in like kirk has said)


2. The vocals sound bad and uninteresting


3. The Songs sounded like they were supposed to be a bit meaningful but they sounded like "generic metal". from the one time i watched frantic on video i thought, it was about drink driving. yet it seemed alot like fuel. which is purely about an adrenaline rush. i like fuel, but frantic is craptacular. master of puppets has the basis of drugs. i personally think it displayed that well. if the tracks on st anger were supposed to they didnt.


4. the god damned snare drum.


5. the extensive use of computerised crap. it sounds like a cut and paste job on audacity.

there you go.

on another note, LARS SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT WHAT ITS GONNA BE LIKE AND REALEASE THE DAMN THING! i like everything up to justice. so far i have the 1989-2004 videos DVD and i like about 3 songs off load and reload that are on that DVD and about 3 from the black album. sandman is probably the last song by metallica that was as good as the older stuff.

we'll go one more, there are no guitar solos. how can you claim to be metal if you have no solos! ****ing nickelback has goddamned guitar solos!

[Langerz1991]

diabolus wrote:

Don't count on this album being a kick-ass throw back to the true metal that Metallica once was. They said that St. Anger was supposed to be like that. The change in producers from Rock to Rubin should make a positive difference, but I seriously doubt that we will be hearing anything like MoP.

But do you think they could really have made a better album then Mop anyways? Even if Cliff didnt die and they stuck with flemming as their producer i doubt they could of lived up to Master, so thats why everything after AJFA was different to the old stuff coz they did the best they could at thrash so they tryed other stuff instead of constantly trying to live up Mop. So anyone who dont like the stuff after the black album, just shut up bitching about it and enjoy the good stuff they didcoz even if you think they suck now they're still ledgends for what they did i nthe 80's, and personally i love all their stuff, including st.anger.

[ericman93]

i dont really think they'll ever make anything that can be compared to kill em' all or master of puppetts ever again, but oh well, maybe metallica will surprise us all.

[sa man]

**** yeah. cant wait for the album. getting tired of those songs. . . . .see what rob has to bring to the table.

[Sleez Boy]

Good luck Metallica, I can't wait! By the way, show some dang support Metallibashers! We're living in age where talent and good vocals are no longer important.

I know won't sound the same as in there glory days, but dang it I know it's still gonna be good! For example, all I hear is about Rise Against, MCR, AAR, Dashboard Confession, and Plain White Ts. That's not rock!

Be happy that Metallica is still around! If not, we would be sorrounded in a place where band like Metallica and others are offensive!

Along with Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax (they got a new singer!) By the way, St. Anger wasn't as good as their thrash days, but it was still good!

[Davehetfield]

im a huge metallica fan of the 80s. otherwise they suck. i hope this album will be good bc every album past ...justice suckd balls. dont get your hopes up, james doesnt have the voice for the 80s anymore

[Dakkstar]

I would like to hear this album, but I'm not going to get excited. I've stuck with this band through their changes and so on and blah blah blah, but yeah. I don't know. I like St Anger, no it's not my favourite, but look back. Dave Mustaine and Clif Burton had a lot to do with the wicked earlier tunes. Anyways.... I'm going ot give them a chance.. and if I'm not impressed then I won't be disappointed because it'll probably be about where I see it being.. nothing special.

[Harley Fay]

I can't wait for this new album...personally I was disappointed with St. Anger. As has been mentioned above it just didn't sound like metallica. No solos and yes the stupid snare drum. Hopefully this album will sound more like the Metallica that we have all grown to love back in the 80s. I personally loved Load and Reload. It was a different sound for Metallica and it sounded good IMO. So let's keep our fingers crossed for one helluva good album!!!!!

[MetallicaFan333]

I swear to God, that this album is either gonna' keep my fanship with Metallica, or break it, because, if they lost their touch, then they can **** off. But if they please me enough on this album, which better be like their older stuff, then, I will be content with it. That is all I have to say...

[shadowsfollower]

i loved st anger and all of the other albums for different reasons. i liked st anger beter than master of puppets. and no im not a new fan ive been listining to metallica since 97

[metalfrk]

at the end of the day it's gonna be a metallica album after all....is that enough??

[DBrooks]

I think all of Metallica's music is great, whether it's old or newer. Each album is different, and it shows how dynamic metallica really is. No other band can do what Metallica has done with playing different styles of music. A lot of people hated St. Anger, but theres alot of great stuff on there. So whether their new album sounds like the 80's stuff or not, it will be another great album in the Metallica collection.

[uvq]

stondagain wrote:

Kirk's pulling out the stops with his solos,

Kirk hasn't been able to play a good lead in 10 years. He's been TERRIBLE live. I hope he's been practicing like a madman because he has flat-out sucked. I think there's a reason they decided not to have any leads on St. Anger, because they would have BLOWN.

the solos would sound weird in it.

[uvq]

darkfire_storm wrote:

r3conmarine90 wrote:


You reckon they're making this album for the fans?! Are you sure it's not just for a bit more £?

no i reckon theyre doing it for a little more $ . we dont use Euros here dude lol. nice try tho. def looking forward to this album.

that'd be great... if that actually meant euros. thats pounds genius.

haha
what a stupid bastard.

[uvq]

This1GoesTo11 wrote:

I think the lyrics on St. Anger are quite good. In fact, I think they are more expressive than most of his lyrics. I can't think of one Metallica song that is a truly great lyric, which could stand without music. Even "Fade to Black" would read like the poerty of a middle school kid when you take away the music. But let's face it, James Hettfield is no Bob Dylan. Never was. Never will be.


if he was like bob dylan he'd be singing this over master of puppets: knock knock knockin on heavens door.

[immortal_stone]

cool,looking forward to hearing it,hopefully its better than st.anger. i mean that album wasnt too bad, it just wasnt them.it had a complete different sound.the guitars were all tuned down heaps and no solos,they should just stick to the good old metallica sound.

metallica are ****in legends,been listening to them since iwas 10,cant wait for the new album.

lml

[AsILayDying05]

NICE!

[luckeas]

Mr.Garreth wrote:

Well everyone knows (even Kerry King) that Metallica were untouchable in the 80's. When Metallica is on top, no band comes close to them. They road on this fame a little during the 90's. But this is the perfect time for the kings to make their comeback. There has been a revival in metal since about 2004 and generally that means the old schoool legends
comeback to kick some butt.

what are you basing this on..like there has been some sort of revival since when.. Metal evoveld in the 70s and it died imidiately going into the 90's right when all that really crappy music like nirvana came out.. now it is coming back....but you can't say this just becasue of the two huge bands that are doing shows again..Zeppelin and Van Halen..and a little Sabbath...

[sevenchurches]

[quote]guitarnut_xiix wrote :

1. THE PRODUCTION SUCKED. Do you newbies not understand how important this is! I know and realize that St. Anger was supposed to sound like a garage recording, but Christ, garage recordings sound better. [quote]

Some of the best albums have shitty production, e.g. "Chemical Exposure" by Sadus or "Unquestionable Prescence" by Atheist. You probably like your production to be up to a tee where you can hear your heroes like Rob Flynn and everyone in Metallica fart during a song.

FUCK people like you make me so ****ing angry! Frankly anyone who listens primarily to groove metal and goes to clubs so they can headbang are losers and complete n00bs in my books

[happyfinesad]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:

I'm still skeptical about this album, people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

But if anyone can bring the "cliff" vibe back to their music, I think Robert can do that.

[Flame-MetalHead]

Kitson_The_Bass wrote:
people underestimate how vital Cliff Burton was in their early stuff.

oh, I didn't think about that. I do hope your wrong.

[ax1]

i think lars copied the word"nutty " from james lol. watch seatle 89