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Pearl Jam Plans To Let New Songs 'Grow Up' |
| artist: pearl jam |
date: 05/16/2008 |
category: upcoming releases |
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Pearl Jam has gotten a start on its next album, but it's still in "its very infant stages" according to guitarist Mike McCready.
"We've had one session of writing and it has yielded ... about five ideas so far," McCready told Billboard.com during a conference call with reporters about this year's Bonnaroo Music Festival, which Pearl Jam will headline on June 14. "Some of it's kind of poppy and some of it's a little hard. We want it to grow up a little bit. We have to revisit it a few times."
Pearl Jam is working on the album, the follow-up to 2006's "Pearl Jam," with longtime associate Brendan O'Brien. And though the band is known for previewing new and unrecorded material at its shows, McCready says that's unlikely to happen on Pearl Jam's upcoming North American tour.
"We might get into some sort of jam," the guitarist said. "We have about 200 songs to pull from, so we'll do that and maybe do some obscure B-sides. For new stuff, I don't know if we have it refined enough to want to play it in front of an audience yet. We don't want to hack in front of everybody."
Nevertheless, McCready said Pearl Jam is looking forward to its first visit to Bonnaroo, where drummer Matt Cameron will also be performing a jazz set. "I think it's a perfect fit," McCready said. "We try to keep everything as in-house and small and as punk rock and do-it-yourself as we can. That's part of our way of doing business. That fits right in with how Bonnaroo is doing theirs."
As for jamming with other acts at the festival, McCready said that "if we run into somebody, 'Hey, you want to come up and jam?,' that's kind of how our band works." But he's hoping to run into one person in particular.
"I'd love to have Jack White up," McCready said. "I think he's just a phenomenal guitar player. I'd love to see him play up close ... because he's got a killer voice and he's a great lead player, too. That would be exciting to me."
McCready also said that Pearl Jam plans to continue making live recordings available to fans from its upcoming tour -- which starts June 11 in West Palm Beach, Fla. -- but isn't sure what form that will take yet.
Credits for the info to Billboard.com.
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GNRjungle87
: yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam.... POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 07:12 am / quote |
BullonParade
: will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 09:46 am / quote |
Chinfrim
: Pearl Jam + Jack White = My OrgasmPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 09:59 am / quote |
вяaи∂ иєw
: BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. |
You lack music taste. Kthxbai.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:10 am / quote |
frankv
: GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam.... | Quite some people think either Yield, No Code or Binaural is their best effort. Personally I like them all so I'm not going to think about this any further.
Some poppy and some hard stuff, eh? I hope with poppy they mean catchy like 'Betterman' and 'Down' and I'm pretty sure they do.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:38 am / quote |
frankv
: Whoops, I meant to quote this:
BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. | Someone has got to do something about us not being able to edit our posts here.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:39 am / quote |
sowhat360
: GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam.... |
naw man, this band has grown so much since then....eddie vedders a modern day jim morrisonPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:54 am / quote |
theshowbizkid
: BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. |
Have you listened to their last album?
Pearl Jam's self titled album is a lot more like their first two albums. Much more grungey.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 11:08 am / quote |
JS5150
: BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. |
I still think Ten is way overrated. Their live slower stuff is absolutley fantastic.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 11:21 am / quote |
therescue06
: GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam.... |
agreedPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 11:24 am / quote |
Slashrulz
: I do agree, their best album is Ten, but my favorite song are not from that album, like: betterman, Yellow Leadbetter, dissident, but i think the best album as in a complex structure is ten. POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 11:38 am / quote |
James_Calalo
: to be honest im not that impressed on their self titled album its just like binaural i mean its not that bad but there were only handful of songs that are good. im really excited on their next record but i will still buy that POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 11:47 am / quote |
grunger
: If they ever match TEN again.
The world will be a much better place.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 12:01 pm / quote |
the_maestro
: If it's as half as good as their last this will be great.
I'd really dig another "Parachutes" type song again too.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 12:18 pm / quote |
sukeyscorer
: yay more pearl jam! they're still on my list of bands to see before i die.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 12:19 pm / quote |
PearlFoo
: Woohoo , this made my day 
Can't wait for the new album + I hope they come to Belgium again POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 12:25 pm / quote |
Tw1zzler
: I dont know why people always say "new pearl jam sucks" because I personally think that all their albums are equally as good POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 12:43 pm / quote |
frankv
: Tw1zzler wrote:
I dont know why people always say "new pearl jam sucks" because I personally think that all their albums are equally as good | Probably because all their albums from Vitalogy to No Code were albums that have to grow on you before you can see their greatness.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 01:00 pm / quote |
Klayy
: BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. |
I personally love Pearl Jam album...POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 01:11 pm / quote |
cuige
: I think they call No Code and Vitalogy "Fan" albums because as frankv said they have to grow on you and only real fans are going to have that patience! But it is proof beyond doubt that patience is well worth it! No Code is a masterpiece! The only album I was disapointed with was Riot Act!POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 01:28 pm / quote |
frankv
: cuige wrote:
I think they call No Code and Vitalogy "Fan" albums because as frankv said they have to grow on you and only real fans are going to have that patience! But it is proof beyond doubt that patience is well worth it! No Code is a masterpiece! The only album I was disapointed with was Riot Act! | I think Riot Act gets way too much harsh critics. It's got Can't Keep, Save You, Love Boat Captain, I Am Mine and 1/2 Full which I all really like.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 01:45 pm / quote |
frankv
: Oh, and I said in a previous post "from Vitalogy to No Code". That's meant to be "from Vitalogy to Riot Act".POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 01:47 pm / quote |
dimebagsmygod
: I really hope they can make another album as good as Ten haven't really liked any of there other stuff.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 02:18 pm / quote |
Kujaku
: Seeing Pearl Jam with Jack White would be badass.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 03:10 pm / quote |
fitter.happier.
: BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music. |
They actually made a concious decision to stay away from the kind of music they were making on those 2 albums. And I disagree. POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 03:51 pm / quote |
break-me-in
: I think The White Stripes + McCreedy would be more appropriate, since Pearl Jam aren't really in need of an extra guitarist.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 03:57 pm / quote |
break-me-in
: sowhat360 wrote:
GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam....
naw man, this band has grown so much since then....eddie vedders a modern day jim morrison |
Only with talent :P
Nah, I'm kidding, although I don't think Jim Morrison was as great as people say.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 03:58 pm / quote |
Masamune
: I'm seeing them on the 11th of June woo i'm excited.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 04:21 pm / quote |
NoiseBox
: w/e... the self titled was only so-so; I think pearl jam's kinda been and gone (although they could prove me wrong with the new disc).POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 04:35 pm / quote |
deathbyawesome
: June 19th baby!
although I only have lawn seats 
and kings of leon isn't playing with them 
oh well, its still pearl jam!POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 04:40 pm / quote |
dudemanwhoathe1
: Slashrulz wrote:
I do agree, their best album is Ten, but my favorite song are not from that album, like: betterman, Yellow Leadbetter, dissident, but i think the best album as in a complex structure is ten. |
dude, i dont know if you realized this, but dissident is off of tenPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 05:31 pm / quote |
frankv
: deathbyawesome wrote:
June 19th baby!
although I only have lawn seats
and kings of leon isn't playing with them
oh well, its still pearl jam! | Lawn seats are better than chair seats for inhaling atmosphere. It should be great.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 05:33 pm / quote |
dudemanwhoathe1
: their last album was too generic for me, thats all, i dont think it was anything like Ten or Vs, not near as good, but not terrible
i didn't like it but that doesn't mean it was bad, but it honestly was their worst album so farPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 05:33 pm / quote |
cuige
: dudemanwhoathe1 wrote:
dude, i dont know if you realized this, but dissident is off of ten |
Dude I don't know if you realised this, but Dissident is off Vs.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 05:50 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: grunger wrote:
If they ever match TEN again.
The world will be a much better place. | They did with Vs and Yield.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 06:01 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: dudemanwhoathe1 wrote:
Slashrulz wrote:
I do agree, their best album is Ten, but my favorite song are not from that album, like: betterman, Yellow Leadbetter, dissident, but i think the best album as in a complex structure is ten.
dude, i dont know if you realized this, but dissident is off of ten | Somebody needs to do their research.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 06:02 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave
: redh0tchilip3pp wrote:
grunger wrote:
If they ever match TEN again.
The world will be a much better place.They did with Vs and Yield. |
agreed, i hope they have more songs like inside job, thats for sure in the top 5, hopefully we avoid the life wasted and comatose types, and maybe if jack white played a few songs with pearl jam he would start playing normal solos and maybe would even write a complete song POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 06:39 pm / quote |
m
: *checked*POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 07:03 pm / quote |
shwilly
: Wonder what the cover'l look like. 'Cause as much as I loved their last effort, that Avocado-thing remains pretty awkwardPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 07:21 pm / quote |
Gibson_SG_uzr55
: this'll be cool, I really like Pearl Jam. It won't be good as Ten, nothing will, but you never know how good it can be, cuz S/T was my next favoritePOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 07:30 pm / quote |
DanteLord
: This is so awesome. I cannot wait. Pearl Jam are like, my idols.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 09:10 pm / quote |
mitch311
: Ive only got ten vs and vitology. Is there any other must have albums of theirs I should get?POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 09:55 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave
: mitch311 wrote:
Ive only got ten vs and vitology. Is there any other must have albums of theirs I should get? |
well best would be to get all of them, but if ur only getting one or two then yield is my favorite after ten, riot act is great too, so is pearl jam, also be sure to get some kind of live albumPOSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:29 pm / quote |
terrencemaddox
: I love their music, but everytime they speak in interviews I feel sick.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:31 pm / quote |
Pontius2000
: Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with.POSTED: 05/16/2008 - 10:58 pm / quote |
Smashing Riot
: Pontius2000 wrote:
Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with. |
Oh come on, you can't compare all of their albums to Ten and Vs. and say they aren't as good. Eddie can write the music if he wants to, he is a better musician then you will ever be anyways. Just name three things bad about Yield, Binaural, Riot Act, and Pearl Jam please, I'm begging you!POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 12:18 am / quote |
magickmidget
: As much as I agree about Ten and Vs., and to a lesser extent Vitalogy, I'm just happy for a new album. POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 01:39 am / quote |
RememberMyName
: Their albums grow on you. I dare you to listen to any album of theirs 5 times over and then HONESTLY say it sucks. It's not possible. I didn't seem them when they came Down Under last 'coz I thought Ten was their only decent album. Now they're one of my favourite bands.
| Oh come on, you can't compare all of their albums to Ten and Vs. and say they aren't as good. Eddie can write the music if he wants to, he is a better musician then you will ever be anyways. Just name three things bad about Yield, Binaural, Riot Act, and Pearl Jam please, I'm begging you! |
Isn't it funny when you ask that of people and NO-ONE can take you up on it. Probably 'coz they were never listening. POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 05:18 am / quote |
cuige
: Pontius2000 wrote:
Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with. |
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! What the hell do you mean "actual musicians". He's been playing the guitar since the 80's and if you listened to his solo album "Into the Wild" he made pretty much every sound on it! He is a great songwriter! I have to wonder where your logic is coming from. They have matured as a band since the ten/vs days!POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 05:37 am / quote |
estabon37
: Pontius2000 wrote:
Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with. |
Thing about that is, Vedder wrote most of Vitalogy. It was pretty much his show. I mean sure, "Bugs" is no masterpiece but "Better Man" was written before he joined Pearl Jam. Ah, I might have to Wiki this coz I hate turning out to be wrong. One moment...POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 06:52 am / quote |
estabon37
: No, I'm wrong. That's nothing new.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 06:55 am / quote |
frankv
: Pontius2000 wrote:
Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with. | Vedder's not a musician? He's written tons of great songs, like Severed Hand, Better Man, Soon Forget, Wishlist etc.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 07:30 am / quote |
Guitar Newbie
: All hail Pearl Jam!! Can't wait to hear anything from the new stuff, even if it's just a small riff!! =PPOSTED: 05/17/2008 - 08:25 am / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: Pontius2000 wrote:
Ten and Vs were classics. No Code was also a classic, but for different reasons than Ten and Vs. Vitalogy was the 4th best. the other 4 albums, for the most part, have sucked. Vedder needs to stick to singing and writing lyrics and let the actual musicians in the band write the music. that's where they went wrong to begin with. | Have you heard some of the riffs Eddie has written? MFC? One of the best Pearl Jam riffs there is. Better Man? Goes without saying. I could go on forever, but I wont.
It's also funny how you like No Code and not Yield. They where similar albums in the experimental side, but Yield really bettered No Code and blew it out of the water.
Pearl Jam are not a grunge band anymore. Ten and Vs where grunge albums, but bands change and develop. If you want another Ten you might aswell stop listening to the band now, because it's really not going to happen.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 09:51 am / quote |
ianmichael89
: Can't wait, but this talk of Jack White? sorry but thats not for me.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 10:16 am / quote |
ianmichael89
: break-me-in wrote:
sowhat360 wrote:
GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam....
naw man, this band has grown so much since then....eddie vedders a modern day jim morrison
Only with talent :P
Nah, I'm kidding, although I don't think Jim Morrison was as great as people say. | ARe you serious Jim Morrison was amazing you moronPOSTED: 05/17/2008 - 10:20 am / quote |
perilouspete
: theshowbizkid wrote:
BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music.
Have you listened to their last album?
Pearl Jam's self titled album is a lot more like their first two albums. Much more grungey. |
I bought it, it's not that great as an album.JS5150 wrote:
BullonParade wrote:
will pearl jam ever write something like ten or vs? i know bands change over time but since those 2 albums i dont think theyve written any decent music.
I still think Ten is way overrated. Their live slower stuff is absolutley fantastic. |
I'm sure all the hardcore pj fans will say that...but personally I think Ten was easily one of the top ten albums of the 90's for any artist. For me, the way they sound on that album is just golden...it just sounds epic and there's so many great songs on it.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 10:41 am / quote |
BullonParade
: theshowbizkid wrote:
Have you listened to their last album?
Pearl Jam's self titled album is a lot more like their first two albums. Much more grungey. |
yea i got that. i liked it but there was just something about that i felt was missing.
вяaи∂ иєw wrote:
You lack music taste. Kthxbai. |
thanks for that, that was a really profound statement.
my wording was a bit harsh i suppose. i liked vitalogy and riot act and yield, but i still that the first two are better.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 11:13 am / quote |
mister bass guy
: dudemanwhoathe1 wrote:
Slashrulz wrote:
I do agree, their best album is Ten, but my favorite song are not from that album, like: betterman, Yellow Leadbetter, dissident, but i think the best album as in a complex structure is ten.
dude, i dont know if you realized this, but dissident is off of ten |
dissident's off of vs...POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 12:34 pm / quote |
Fireballz 1077
: Pearl Jam is awesome. I like some of the stuff they used to start out with more, though. Like, "Jeremy", "Even Flow", and "YellowBedletter". "Black" was a killer song, too.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 01:07 pm / quote |
blackflag49
: "We try to keep everything as in-house and small and as punk rock and do-it-yourself as we can."
WTF..POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 02:14 pm / quote |
Dragforce92
: dudemanwhoathe1 wrote:
Slashrulz wrote:
I do agree, their best album is Ten, but my favorite song are not from that album, like: betterman, Yellow Leadbetter, dissident, but i think the best album as in a complex structure is ten.
dude, i dont know if you realized this, but dissident is off of ten |
lern ur knowledge. and fireballz, ur absolutly right, black is a phenominal song, cant wait to hear the next album.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 03:11 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: blackflag49 wrote:
"We try to keep everything as in-house and small and as punk rock and do-it-yourself as we can."
WTF.. | That's the recording process. POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 04:34 pm / quote |
m
: checkedPOSTED: 05/17/2008 - 04:59 pm / quote |
Pontius2000
: cuige wrote:
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! What the hell do you mean "actual musicians". He's been playing the guitar since the 80's and if you listened to his solo album "Into the Wild" he made pretty much every sound on it! He is a great songwriter! I have to wonder where your logic is coming from. They have matured as a band since the ten/vs days! |
no, they've devolved since the days of Ten/Vs. I'm not saying that 1 out of every 10 songs that Vedder writes the music on may not be good, but Gossard/Ament knock it out of the park every time. and that's where the probably is....Vedder holds the rest of the band back. he writes great lyrics and is a great singer, but his interference with the music writing, as a whole, has held them back. it was his decision to get rid of Dave A, who was the best drummer they ever had. and it was his decision for McCready to stop soloing so much, which was also a dumb move.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 07:41 pm / quote |
Pontius2000
: Smashing Riot wrote:
Oh come on, you can't compare all of their albums to Ten and Vs. and say they aren't as good. Eddie can write the music if he wants to, he is a better musician then you will ever be anyways. Just name three things bad about Yield, Binaural, Riot Act, and Pearl Jam please, I'm begging you! |
why's he a better musician than me, because he's famous? lol. there are 2 great guitarists in PJ and Vedder ain't one of them. so when he starts throwing in his style, it holds the 2 great ones back.
what do I hate about the 4 most recent albums? the sound is more digital and thin sounding and the albums are not cohesive from song to song. Yield was ok, but they couldn't figure out if they wanted it to be a punk album or a No Code type album. Binaural and Riot Act flat out sucked. I doubt I could find 2 songs off each of those albums that I would want to see played live (though I did, because I saw them live twice on the Binaural tour). the most recent PJ album had some good spots, but it still had a lot of filler and it was that same band sound overall.
the great thing about the first 4 albums, and Ten/Vs in particular, is that they had a thick sound and the songs all fit together. you could tell they were ALBUMS. whereas the most recent 4 albums are just collections of songs that were thrown together.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 07:47 pm / quote |
Pontius2000
: RememberMyName wrote:
Their albums grow on you. I dare you to listen to any album of theirs 5 times over and then HONESTLY say it sucks. It's not possible. I didn't seem them when they came Down Under last 'coz I thought Ten was their only decent album. Now they're one of my favourite bands.
Oh come on, you can't compare all of their albums to Ten and Vs. and say they aren't as good. Eddie can write the music if he wants to, he is a better musician then you will ever be anyways. Just name three things bad about Yield, Binaural, Riot Act, and Pearl Jam please, I'm begging you!
Isn't it funny when you ask that of people and NO-ONE can take you up on it. Probably 'coz they were never listening. |
I answered him, happy? I could listen to Binaural and Riot Act over and over again and tell you flatly that they suck.
I may have been a LITTLE harsh in saying that Yield and Pearl Jam suck, but they are not on the level with the first 4 albums.POSTED: 05/17/2008 - 07:52 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: Pontius2000, you didn't answer me back before. What do you mean they couldn't figure out if they wanted Yield to be a punk rock album or not? Why, because it had two hard hiters on it? Every song on Yield fits together perfectly. It's like a musical journey. How about you listen to it tonight and come back and then say what you think?
You wouldn't want to see 2 songs of both Riot Act and Binaural played? Breakerfall? Light Years? Nothing As It Seems? Of the Girl? Grievance?
There's five brilliant songs from Binaural. What about Riot Act. Can't Keep? Save You? Love Boat Captain? You Are? 1/2 Full?
And you say you could listen to both those albums over and over again and still think they sucked. Well, why don't you do that and see what you think? You could be missing out. Hell, you are missing out.
Each to their own, I guess. You are just missing out on some great albums.POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 04:29 am / quote |
cuige
: Pontius2000 wrote:
devolved since the days of Ten/Vs. I'm not saying that 1 out of every 10 songs that Vedder writes the music on may not be good, but Gossard/Ament knock it out of the park every time. and that's where the probably is....Vedder holds the rest of the band back. he writes great lyrics and is a great singer, but his interference with the music writing, as a whole, has held them back. it was his decision to get rid of Dave A, who was the best drummer they ever had. and it was his decision for McCready to stop soloing so much, which was also a dumb move. |
Hmm. Do you have a window into the lives of the band or something. How do you know such things? Y'know good bands don't want to do the same things over and over again and the fans don't want to hear the same thing over and over again either! It gets boring and stale and they would have broken up years ago! Also do you know the only songs Eddie wrote on Binaural are : Breakerfall, Light Years, Insignifigance, Grievance, Soon Forget and Parting Ways. And even some of them were joint efforts.POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 05:10 am / quote |
frankv
: Pontius2000 wrote:
no, they've devolved since the days of Ten/Vs. I'm not saying that 1 out of every 10 songs that Vedder writes the music on may not be good, but Gossard/Ament knock it out of the park every time. and that's where the probably is....Vedder holds the rest of the band back. he writes great lyrics and is a great singer, but his interference with the music writing, as a whole, has held them back. it was his decision to get rid of Dave A, who was the best drummer they ever had. and it was his decision for McCready to stop soloing so much, which was also a dumb move. | The music thing is an opinion. Personally I think Ed adds a layer to the band, you apparantly don't. But I think it was Stone Gossard who threw Dave out. And on the soloing thing, how would you know? Could you link me up?POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 08:17 am / quote |
bicko19
: In the end: Mike McCready = God.POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 08:56 am / quote |
slaptasticdave
: Pontius2000 wrote:
no, they've devolved since the days of Ten/Vs. I'm not saying that 1 out of every 10 songs that Vedder writes the music on may not be good, but Gossard/Ament knock it out of the park every time. and that's where the probably is....Vedder holds the rest of the band back. he writes great lyrics and is a great singer, but his interference with the music writing, as a whole, has held them back. it was his decision to get rid of Dave A, who was the best drummer they ever had. and it was his decision for McCready to stop soloing so much, which was also a dumb move. |
honestly i find a lot of gossards songs are inferior to vedders, particularly the recent ones, personally i think that ament's are the best followed by mccready's. As for less of mike soloing, i think a lot of the songs are more condusive to solos by stone, i think just about all his solos on yield are fantastic especially brain of j, and thats really the only album where he takes most of them. As for getting rid of dave a it was just as much a real musical clash as it was personallity and stone was actually the one to kick him out, besides other than the cordouroy betterman, and nothingman vitalogy isnt very goodPOSTED: 05/18/2008 - 12:50 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: Dave A was kicked out because the main thing he wanted was fame. The band didn't support that philosophy, so he was out. It was inevitable.POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 03:04 pm / quote |
cuige
: Slaptastic Dave! What about Immortality, Spin the Black Circle, Not for You, Tremor Christ, Whipping and Satan's Bed? All class songs! Aso the Vitalogy booklet is the best ever made!POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 04:40 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: cuige wrote:
Slaptastic Dave! What about Immortality, Spin the Black Circle, Not for You, Tremor Christ, Whipping and Satan's Bed? All class songs! Aso the Vitalogy booklet is the best ever made! | I could think of a whole list of great songs Stone wrote;
* songs that he also wrote the lyrics for
Once
Even Flow
Alive
Black
Breath
Footsteps
Brother*
Hold On
Animal
Hard To Imagine
Spin The Black Circle
Satan's Bed
Mankind*
Don't Gimme No Lip*
No Way*
Do The Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays*
Strangest Tribe*
Thin Air*
Of The Girl*
Rival*
Fatal*
Bu$hleaguer
All Or None
Life Wasted
Parachutes
Wasted ReprisePOSTED: 05/18/2008 - 05:05 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave
: cuige, i forgot about immortality, that ones good too. i dont really care for the other ones tho, ive never seen the booklet so i have no rebutle for thatPOSTED: 05/18/2008 - 05:06 pm / quote |
cuige
: Actually I was refering to the list of great songs on Vitalogy but good list all the same! What's the stars on some of the songs?POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 05:11 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave
: redh0tchilip3pp wrote:
cuige wrote:
Slaptastic Dave! What about Immortality, Spin the Black Circle, Not for You, Tremor Christ, Whipping and Satan's Bed? All class songs! Aso the Vitalogy booklet is the best ever made!I could think of a whole list of great songs Stone wrote;
* songs that he also wrote the lyrics for
Once
Even Flow
Alive
Black
Breath
Footsteps
Brother*
Hold On
Animal
Hard To Imagine
Spin The Black Circle
Satan's Bed
Mankind*
Don't Gimme No Lip*
No Way*
Do The Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays*
Strangest Tribe*
Thin Air*
Of The Girl*
Rival*
Fatal*
Bu$hleaguer
All Or None
Life Wasted
Parachutes
Wasted Reprise |
i was talking about post vs. songs, i thought that was implicated. anyway up until dont gimme no lip i agree with you.
dont gimme no lip is an unbelivably terrible song tho.
do the evoluion is better live but of course stone is not a very good improviser
i also agree with the ones up through bushleager
and the rest except parachutes arent good
parachutes on the other hand is a fantastic song.
POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 05:12 pm / quote |
verona_bassist
: it will be good...personally, i think every single PJ song has something unique and awesomePOSTED: 05/18/2008 - 08:05 pm / quote |
Pontius2000
: frankv wrote:
The music thing is an opinion. Personally I think Ed adds a layer to the band, you apparantly don't. But I think it was Stone Gossard who threw Dave out. And on the soloing thing, how would you know? Could you link me up? |
how would I know? you must be a relative newcomer to the band. Ed has said in several interviews (back in the mid 90s) that he got sick of Mike doing long and drawn out solos live and so he cut the solos off. it was also Ed that cut the videos out and stopped wanting them to be a mainstream band.
and yes, Stone was the one that broke the news to Dave A. but it has been documented that Ed made Stone do it.
basically, Ed is 25% of what is great about PJ, but 100% of what is bad about them.POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 10:36 pm / quote |
slaptasticdave
: Pontius2000 wrote:
frankv wrote:
The music thing is an opinion. Personally I think Ed adds a layer to the band, you apparantly don't. But I think it was Stone Gossard who threw Dave out. And on the soloing thing, how would you know? Could you link me up?
how would I know? you must be a relative newcomer to the band. Ed has said in several interviews (back in the mid 90s) that he got sick of Mike doing long and drawn out solos live and so he cut the solos off. it was also Ed that cut the videos out and stopped wanting them to be a mainstream band.
and yes, Stone was the one that broke the news to Dave A. but it has been documented that Ed made Stone do it.
basically, Ed is 25% of what is great about PJ, but 100% of what is bad about them. |
not a big fan of math are u. it was all of them except dave a who wanted to stop the videos, quote by jeff "I dont want our songs to be remembered as videos" in regard to jeremy. and i dont think u can blame eddie for every single bad thing about them, that wouldnt explain dont gimme no lipPOSTED: 05/18/2008 - 10:53 pm / quote |
redh0tchilip3pp
: cuige wrote:
Actually I was refering to the list of great songs on Vitalogy but good list all the same! What's the stars on some of the songs? | Songs Stone wrote lyrics for too.
slaptasticdave wrote:
redh0tchilip3pp wrote:
cuige wrote:
Slaptastic Dave! What about Immortality, Spin the Black Circle, Not for You, Tremor Christ, Whipping and Satan's Bed? All class songs! Aso the Vitalogy booklet is the best ever made!I could think of a whole list of great songs Stone wrote;
* songs that he also wrote the lyrics for
Once
Even Flow
Alive
Black
Breath
Footsteps
Brother*
Hold On
Animal
Hard To Imagine
Spin The Black Circle
Satan's Bed
Mankind*
Don't Gimme No Lip*
No Way*
Do The Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays*
Strangest Tribe*
Thin Air*
Of The Girl*
Rival*
Fatal*
Bu$hleaguer
All Or None
Life Wasted
Parachutes
Wasted Reprise
i was talking about post vs. songs, i thought that was implicated. anyway up until dont gimme no lip i agree with you.
dont gimme no lip is an unbelivably terrible song tho.
do the evoluion is better live but of course stone is not a very good improviser
i also agree with the ones up through bushleager
and the rest except parachutes arent good
parachutes on the other hand is a fantastic song.
| Ahh, sorry but nether the less there is some excellent songs there. And I find it hard to believe you don't like No Way, In Hiding, All Those Yesterdays, Strrangest Tribe, Of the Girl...All excellent songs.
Pontius2000 wrote:
frankv wrote:
The music thing is an opinion. Personally I think Ed adds a layer to the band, you apparantly don't. But I think it was Stone Gossard who threw Dave out. And on the soloing thing, how would you know? Could you link me up?
how would I know? you must be a relative newcomer to the band. Ed has said in several interviews (back in the mid 90s) that he got sick of Mike doing long and drawn out solos live and so he cut the solos off. it was also Ed that cut the videos out and stopped wanting them to be a mainstream band.
and yes, Stone was the one that broke the news to Dave A. but it has been documented that Ed made Stone do it.
basically, Ed is 25% of what is great about PJ, but 100% of what is bad about them. | Have you seen Live at the Garden? Mike does a fifteen minute solo in Even Flow.POSTED: 05/19/2008 - 06:20 am / quote |
cuige
: Yeah since the mid-ninties was about 13 14 years ago I think I'm going to ignore that! redh0tchilip3pp is right! If you listen to any of their live stuff Even Flow is huge because of Mike's and Matt's solos. Then Crazy Mary, Alive and Yellow Ledbetter also have long solo parts so unless you have any Eddie quotes OF RECENT TIMES then you don't have a case!POSTED: 05/19/2008 - 12:43 pm / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD
: sowhat360 wrote:
GNRjungle87 wrote:
yes yes yes!
and i wouldnt mind seeing jack white on stage with pearl jam....
naw man, this band has grown so much since then....eddie vedders a modern day jim morrison |
I agree that hes a modern day jim morrison. Jack White is terrible tho, I hope they dont really think about playing with him, he will just dumb the band down a bit. POSTED: 06/11/2008 - 09:43 pm / quote |
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