Red Hot Chili Peppers To Release Different Versions Of Album

In previous interviews, including ones with Q Magazine and NME, Anthony Kiedis has told about how the Red Hot Chili Peppers had 38 tracks and that 24 or 25 would be on the upcoming double album, Stadium Arcadium.

"Slow Cheetah," "Storm in a Tea Cup," "Hard to Concentrate," "C'mon Girl," "Ready Made" and "Desecration Smile" are just a few of the titles that survived the process and will be on every copy of Stadium Arcadium.

"I think we always [approach the songwriting process] with this mindset that this time, we're going to write the perfect 11 songs and just put out 11 songs like they used to do in the days of Buddy Holly and the Beatles. Those early records were so short and sweet, and had this kind of lasting profound impact on the world because they're very memorable and digestible and, I don't know, maybe it just takes less energy or effort to connect with smaller collections. But as has been the case with every single time we've tried to do that, we end up with 30 some-odd songs. The difference this time was we ended up liking all of those songs and finishing all of those songs and it actually became a very difficult process to even just whittle it down to 25. I think it's sort of the best thing that we've ever done, and I just want to get it out there on the airwaves and in the earholes of the world." said Anthony Kiedis.

As previously announced, the first single & video will be for "Dani California". AK said the director of the video will be Tony Kaye, who directed "American History X." The video will be character driven about Dani the girl, who has made appearances on the previous 2 Chili Peppers albums.

But what to do with the 12 or 13 songs that don't make the labum?

Bonus tracks.

Each retail site will get a different version of the album with a different "bonus song". Local, small record stores will get one, iTunes will get one, Wal Mart will get one, etc.

"We're going to try and do that with the independent record stores across America, and for all the monster chains," he said. "We'll service everybody with a different bonus track, because we have them."

According to the band's management company, Stadium Arcadium is due May 9 in the states.

Comments

[wollie]

so when you want to collect al the songs, you have to buy several times the album...? weird

[N8theGr8]

What a great idea put a bonus song on each album so you have to buy the same album like 8 times over. 150 dollars latter you finnaly have all the songs you need! Smart for them...bad for us.

[boor]

I already have all the tunes i'll need from them, downloaded it from the internet. little diddy they didn't even write themselves called "higher ground", stevie wonder's version is better... never been a big fan

[lykeorbzorkor]

ach, or just download em. i'm really psyched about this, 30 sumthin new songs from RHCP. this has to be good.

[MoshMaster101]

lykeorbzorkor wrote:

i'm really psyched about this, 30 sumthin new songs from RHCP. this has to be good.

I'm exactly the same. I reckon the songs will be drawn from every stage of their career: from their funk roots to their acoustic songs to their anthems all tinged with their blasts of great modern rock. Can't. Fooking. Wait.

[Skadogg]

I'll buy the CDs - I'm psyched as well. RHCP are an awesome band. But, yeah, I'll be obtaining the "bonus tracks" through a different means....

[Voldragon]

Meh, Ill buy one album, then its on to Limewire for me for the other lot

[boxcarblink41]

Different versions? OiNK time.

[fallinsuburbia]

their smart. so basically you buy $200 dollars worth of the same album to get everything. I could actually see someone do that. i myself will just download the rest.

[horazonblade]

Yea, good marketing idea.

[horazonblade]

And when all 12 albums are reconnected in one location, there powers combined will summon forth the greatest musical collection since 1987.

[nehpets5555]

or...if u wanna buy em 'fairly' u can buy d album and get the bonuses off i-tunes by them selves

[aic_rooster]

this is almost like encouraging illegal file-sharing...

what a dumb idea...i mean are they just trying to be cute or what?

[GuitarJunkie]

^i think the point is...itunes will only have one of the bonus tracks...so you cant do that...otherwise that would defy the whole point of putting a diff bonus track on each album them give to each store...but yea...now its time to see who all the harch RHCP fans are, lol

[UtBDan]

nehpets5555:
or...if u wanna buy em 'fairly' u can buy d album and get the bonuses off i-tunes by them selves


if you read the article/news report, it says I-tunes will gets its own bonus track. Meaning, only one bonus track will be availible to download from i-tunes.

[GreenDayChris]

way to scam your fans

[Blackbullet]

hmmm, sooner or later someone will gather all the bonus tracks together and post it online- that way ill only have to buy the album once, just to show my support :p:

[evvo_gc_fan]

ill buy it once cos i really love them, but not more than once. the bonus tracks will be available after about a week for d/l

[Sylvesterin]

If every album has a different cover, I would reconsider buying them all :P

[Easty1]

I'll be buying the album, but the bonus tracks, well...

[iamweasel]

sorry but this is a terrible idea. really really bad.

[aliceinnirvana]

Well I hope the single purchase I pick has a damn good bonus track. Clever idea though.

[edibledevilboy]

i think that if they didnt make the album theyr definitly not worth caring enough for for spending give or take £12 on it. This idea doesnt really make sense, no1's going to buy the album more than once, it's just challenging the fans to see if they can download all the bonus tracks. Crazy. I guess theyre just doing it to be interesting, which it is/ but annoying too...

i will definatly be buying this album, at least once. i really cant wait, cause the chili peppers are amazing.
and im suprised no one has come up with one of the easiest and most legal ideas. coordinate with your friends and make sure everyone buys a different version. that way you can just get everyone to rip all the bonus tracks to one computer, then burn a bonus tracks cd for everyone.

[Funky M0nk]

WTF, they go from announcing a double album to an 11 track LP? They should atleast put 2 or 3 bonus tracks on each disc instead of just one. I woulda liked the double album better but w/e. I'll buy one copy and download all the bonuses.

[can't_stop4ever]

awww.. i'm gonna need to buy the same album so many times now to get all of the songs...

[Skadogg]

Funky M0nk wrote:

WTF, they go from announcing a double album to an 11 track LP? They should atleast put 2 or 3 bonus tracks on each disc instead of just one. I woulda liked the double album better but w/e. I'll buy one copy and download all the bonuses.

No dude, first paragraph clearly states 24 or 25 track double album. There will be 5 or so "bonus" songs. I'm sure they'll be pretty easy to get your hands on.

[Skadogg]

38 less 25 tracks = 12 bonus tracks???

[Skadogg]

Or 13 even? And damn I wish there was an edit button, my bad on the extemporaneous posting.

[SlashNX]

I think Illbuy the Cd and download the bonus tracks!What a great money making scheme... im sorry, I never thought I would say this, but I think Chilis have sort of sold out. Or atleast have become money making greedy people!! They could have just made a double album and released all the songs that way...

Still, musically, and amazing band!! And I still love them for their music.

[W1LL]

I agree with Slash, and plan on doing the same thing. I think they should put out a B side album of the tracks that didnt make the final cut, kind of like SOAD did with "Steal This Album". I would deffinently buy that.

[badfish333]

its a great idea...but i dont really care about the bonus tracks...obviously they arent as good since they didnt make the cut

[Caullay]

jof1029 wrote:

i will definatly be buying this album, at least once. i really cant wait, cause the chili peppers are amazing.
and im suprised no one has come up with one of the easiest and most legal ideas. coordinate with your friends and make sure everyone buys a different version. that way you can just get everyone to rip all the bonus tracks to one computer, then burn a bonus tracks cd for everyone.

yeah man, i was about to say that

[Neon D-von]

^dude, I was thinking that too. Great plan and good for them. I'm usually the only one out of my friends that buys albums and the rest burn it from me. Now They'll all have to buy it too. More support for RHCP, I'm sure they won't mind.

[Goddamnit]

Cant wait for this album. Obviously I'll want all the bonus tracks too. God bless p2p filesharing.

[theDOORS123]

definetly the best new of my week...rhcp are awsome... its gonna be annoying to try and get all the bonus tracks though....

[funky_punk]

dude f*** that sh*t just release the album!!!!!

[tyronelab]

so it'll be like one of them collector things kids are into? collect 1 album and swap songs with your friends who have different versions

[drugless_stoner]

havin all your fiends buy the album is still ilegal, but then again this is coming from the guy who hasnt boght an album in months, but has a computer burstijng with music, thank you god for cd-rs, usb memoery sticks, the internet, and a bunch of music obbsessed friends, lol. looking forward to this one though, and luckily, my sister will buy it, and my friend wil buy it too, hee hee hee

[Nick-182]

yes....

[drugless_stoner]

tyronelab:
so it'll be like one of them collector things kids are into? collect 1 album and swap songs with your friends who have different versions

REDHOTCHILIMON!!!!! GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!!!!! LOL

[Chestaufissen]

But what to do with the 12 or 13 songs that don't make the labum?

yes the labum, Im sure that's what they're making.

[Funky M0nk]

Skadogg wrote:

Funky M0nk wrote:

WTF, they go from announcing a double album to an 11 track LP? They should atleast put 2 or 3 bonus tracks on each disc instead of just one. I woulda liked the double album better but w/e. I'll buy one copy and download all the bonuses.

No dude, first paragraph clearly states 24 or 25 track double album. There will be 5 or so "bonus" songs. I'm sure they'll be pretty easy to get your hands on.

Oh...ya I read that wrong, lol thanks for correcting me.

[trickie]

Yeah its called all the bonus tracks will be on the internet in no time so no need to worry. Like somone said earlier I'll buy 1 copy to show my support but I'm gonna DL the rest

[Pan-Tallica]

Fuck that. If they wanna scam us like that, I don't care how much someone likes RHCP, I'd download the whole god damn CD. They wanna play like that, I'll just have to fight fire with fire. Some people may not like that idea, but screw them. I mean 4 or 5 tracks on different CDs is reasonable, but 13!?

[wingedgopher]

^ exactly

[slashmiester]

horazonblade wrote:

And when all 12 albums are reconnected in one location, there powers combined will summon forth the greatest musical collection since 1987.

lol genius

think ill go 4 the buy the album download the bonus tracks idea like the rest of you

[Guitar_Dude777]

Well i'll buy the one album, and iTunes the rest...cause i still have $20 bucks worth of iTunes left from xmas

[Pyro128]

horazonblade wrote:

And when all 12 albums are reconnected in one location, there powers combined will summon forth the greatest musical collection since 1987.

God, thats exactly what will happen! Everything makes sense now...

[Arkane]

iTunes will be gettin only one version. It says in the article "Itunes, walmart, etc will be gettin a different cd". So yea, your gonna have to be cheap and D/L them all for free..like me

[ILoveKiefer]

drugless_stoner
wrote:

tyronelab:
so it'll be like one of them collector things kids are into? collect 1 album and swap songs with your friends who have different versions


REDHOTCHILI
MON!!!!! GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!!!!! LOL

Ahahahaha.

[fistagon]

hope its good. i didnt like their latest stuff as much as the rest

[7thhell]

Hhmm.... their record company is hungry. I cant wait to hear some new stuff by them.

[.:KrAmJaN:.]

GreenDayChris wrote:

way to scam your fans

Says kid who listens to green day....

[rhcproxmysox]

.:KrAmJaN:. wrote:

GreenDayChris wrote:

way to scam your fans

BURN!!!!



S
ays kid who listens to green day....

[rhcproxmysox]

.:KrAmJaN:. wrote:

GreenDayChris wrote:

way to scam your fans



Says kid who listens to green day....

BURN!!!!!

[jonnyrotten45]

ya dude seriuosly **** greenday

[jonnyrotten45]

ya dude **** greenday

[jonnyrotten45]

RHCP RULE!!!! (like u didn't now that)

[Nirvana_rocks73]

Well, I definately love RHCP. They're my favourite band. I just cant wait to hear the main album, ill get the other tracks somehow.... But wow, Im glad they're back its been a long time since By The Way.

[_swirky_]

Voldragon wrote:

Meh, Ill buy one album, then its on to Limewire for me for the other lot

haha saaame!! its been ages since their last album it'll be great... 30 odd new songs lol best as!!

**pantera rocks**

[kurtdonald]

i love RHCP!!!!! definitely ill buy oneof the album!!

[HellBent1337]

Well, i'd consider myself a very big rhcp fan, but unfortuinily i have -$23000 due to school and loans and crap...so i think ill be downloaded all the extras off bittorrent...

[IlIk2plygUItAr]

nehpets5555:
or...if u wanna buy em 'fairly' u can buy d album and get the bonuses off i-tunes by them selves

Did you not read the part about itunes getting one extra song like everyone else? Did I miss something?

[Letterbomb11]

This is the reason Limewire still exists. Rare songs.

[Letterbomb11]

badfish333:
its a great idea...but i dont really care about the bonus tracks...obviously they arent as good since they didnt make the cut

Not quite. When Less Than Jake recorded Anthem, they had twelve songs that didn't make the cut (subsequently released on a b-side comp). Some of those songs were better than the ones that made the original album. These 12 or 13 Chili Peppers songs won't be worse, just different.

[jacus]

good way to make money for them eh

[Clarkinator]

No idiot is going to by multiple versions of an album. They other bonuses will surface on Limewire in a bit and there ya go. I dont care how big of a Chilis fan you are, if you buy the CD at 15 bucks a pop (its gonna be that much at least, maybe more since theres 25 songs)like 7 times your real dumbskies

[Fecker]

now that's a genious marketing idea!
cheers to the peppers for doing that they will get more sales that way... and if you get one album... you emule the other bonus tracks

[Slashrulz]

im just drunk and wanted to say hi!!! plus the peppers are really cool i like most of their songs!!!

[misirlou]

hmm...the idea probably looked good on paper, but i don't think they thought about how expensive and inconvenient it would be for us. oh well, that's what downloading is for.

[J Dub]

Solution: Buy one album (probably won't even do that), download all bonus tracks.

[Pol_of_spades]

Why didnt you blokes (the amazing RHCP) just release the first 11 or so songs that you wrote so we wouldnt have to wait so bloody long!!!

[MoshMaster101]

Slashrulz wrote:

im just drunk and wanted to say hi!!! plus the peppers are really cool i like most of their songs!!!

Your typing seems to be fairly legible for a drunk person... *cough*bullshitting*cough
* Hey, has anyone got a strepsil?

[Inahrima]

^ LABUMS RULE!!!!!









tsk tsk i thought the chillis were beyond scamming.


thus i am FORCED to download all the songs

[Liam Grainger]

cmon htats cheap... hah a i live in china ill buy a cheap copied version of the cd just for that!!

[reckless_life]

if they wanted them to be heard thatt badly they couldve just put them up for download on their site for free, surely?

[Klown]

"i guess ill have to download those songs"

[Walternativo]

aic_rooster wrote:

this is almost like encouraging illegal file-sharing...

what a dumb idea...i mean are they just trying to be cute or what?

agree

[JohnnyTheFerret]

well, ya, it's supposed to be a smart business call. it'd make us buy svereal CD's if we'd like to hear all the new songs.
but they forgot about man's best friend - Kazaa.

[yohanand]

of coz its not smart.. .its bull man... im not gonna buy all dose albums... i luv rhcp but when u do this crap its like... u guys r doin it just 4 d money... n not 2giv d ppl out there gud music... damn .. i used 2 respect rhcp so much 4 their music... what d hell is wrong wid ur marketing manager... shuv dose albums up his..... *stomps off*

[EZLN libertad]

"SILENT DANCE WITH DEATH

EVERYTHING IS LOSTTTTT" - demon of the fall by Opeth

[Still Life]

dude, why not just release the double album with no bonus tracks, and a few months later release ANOTHER WHOLE ALBUM? I mean, 12 or 13 songs is plenty enough for a full album, so just wait a little bit and everyone is happier that way.

[Still Life]

yohanand wrote:

of coz its not smart.. .its bull man... im not gonna buy all dose albums... i luv rhcp but when u do this crap its like... u guys r doin it just 4 d money... n not 2giv d ppl out there gud music... damn .. i used 2 respect rhcp so much 4 their music... what d hell is wrong wid ur marketing manager... shuv dose albums up his..... *stomps off*

err...try some English.

[Green_Day_Rock]

Klown wrote:

"i guess ill have to download those songs"

same...Well i would if I liked the RHCP. Oh look! Can't Stop is the radio again!! This album will be as overplayed as the last.

[JD89]

rhcp rock but they do seem to be selling out...i bet they bring another greatest hits album out soon...

[Boot]

Well if you ask me it'll never happen and most of the songs will be kept for b-sides/e.p's or maybe even future albums.

Good To hear from RHCP's again though By The Way was 4 years ago!!

[Skadogg]

Do you really think they are so naive that they are really thinking "Yeah, now our fans will be 6 copies of the disc!!!!!" Something tells me they had very little input on the matter, maybe they're happy to get the bonus tracks anyway they can without it costing them money. I'm sure they realize people are going to DL the bonus material (or the whole shit as well).

And for any "fans" who are saying "Now I HAVE TO download it" you're just dicks. I hope you make an album and no one pays for it.

[Skadogg]

happy to get the bonus tracks anyway

get the tracks OUT anyway

[dwnbowden]

why not just use them for anouther album or make singles with a hell of a lot of b sides

[anal frost]

greeneggs'n'ham
wrote:

anal frost wrote:

But what to do with the 12 or 13 songs that don't make the labum?

he spelt album wrong.


It's 'spelled'

no it's not genius

[Skadogg]

^^Both are acceptable, actually. Cool name.

[evening_crow]

jof1029 wrote:

i will definatly be buying this album, at least once. i really cant wait, cause the chili peppers are amazing.
and im suprised no one has come up with one of the easiest and most legal ideas. coordinate with your friends and make sure everyone buys a different version. that way you can just get everyone to rip all the bonus tracks to one computer, then burn a bonus tracks cd for everyone.

Actually, that's illegal.

[evening_crow]

I think they're doing this just for fun. They know people aren't going to buy all the versions of the album, they just want to make the album(s) interesting...and see how people get all the tracks.

[anal frost]

Skadogg wrote:Cool name.

me or green eggs?

[Mr. Kashmir]

hopefully they release a sequence on their website that you can use to put all of the tracks in an order that flows nicely together

[private]

i think there just asking to have there songs downloaded illegally

[Nirvana_rocks73]

Green_Day_Rock[
/b] wrote:

Klown wrote:

"i guess ill have to download those songs"

same...Well i would if I liked the RHCP. Oh look! Can't Stop is the radio again!! This album will be as overplayed as the last.

Yes..SHUT UP. You have Green Day in your name so no need to speak! You shouldnt even be making a comment like that about a band like RHCP. Besides, I rarely ever hear them on the radio, I hear them far far less then Green Day.

[b]JD89 wrote:

rhcp rock but they do seem to be selling out...i bet they bring another greatest hits album out soon...

Just shut up, I have nothing else to say to that, yes the greatest hits thing they did was kind of odd but whatever, theyre not selling out. I don't even think you know what sellout means, its such an over used term, if you want to find a logical way to use it, try: Green Day.

aic_rooster
wrote:

this is almost like encouraging illegal file-sharing...

what a dumb idea...i mean are they just trying to be cute or what?

They already are cute, which is besides the point. I dont think RHCP had much to do with this marketing idea.

[Nirvana_rocks73]

Green_Day_Rock[
/b] wrote:

Klown wrote:

"i guess ill have to download those songs"

same...Well i would if I liked the RHCP. Oh look! Can't Stop is the radio again!! This album will be as overplayed as the last.

Yes..SHUT UP. You have Green Day in your name so no need to speak! You shouldnt even be making a comment like that about a band like RHCP. Besides, I rarely ever hear them on the radio, I hear them far far less then Green Day.

[b]JD89 wrote:

rhcp rock but they do seem to be selling out...i bet they bring another greatest hits album out soon...

Just shut up, I have nothing else to say to that, yes the greatest hits thing they did was kind of odd but whatever, theyre not selling out. I don't even think you know what sellout means, its such an over used term, if you want to find a logical way to use it, try: Green Day.

aic_rooster
wrote:

this is almost like encouraging illegal file-sharing...

what a dumb idea...i mean are they just trying to be cute or what?

They already are cute, which is besides the point. I dont think RHCP had much to do with this marketing idea.

[Skadogg]

You, anal frost. Great name.

[Chestaufissen]

Green_Day_Rock[
/b] wrote:

Klown wrote:

"i guess ill have to download those songs"

same...Well i would if I liked the RHCP. Oh look! Can't Stop is the radio again!! This album will be as overplayed as the last.

I wouldn't talking about being overplayed. They played two Green (G)Day songs in one hour on one of the local radio stations and three other songs by GD, in one hour on another radio station. Guess how many times RHCP was played during that time...None, so Shut up!

[metallik1013]

I will thoroughly laugh my ass off at anyone who actually purchases 12 versions of the same album to get all the bonus tracks. That kind of obsessive needs to be beaten into the ground. Just the way I see it.

[JesusOfSbrbia]

I think we need to see some Alice In Chains B-sides already, before we start bitching about this stuff.

[Trip272]

MoshMaster101 wrote:

Slashrulz wrote:

im just drunk and wanted to say hi!!! plus the peppers are really cool i like most of their songs!!!

Your typing seems to be fairly legible for a drunk person... *cough*bullshitting*cough

It's not hard to type legible when you're drunk.. it just takes a bit longer. Try it sometime.

[LedZeppelin]

Well that's stupid.

Go figure.

[Kendawg4TooL]

GreenDayChris:
way to scam your fans

Wow, some people can be real ****ing idiots. There not scamming anybody dumbass. If anything they're giving more to the fans. They're putting out a double album which is already great because a sellout band like SOAD will just put the albums out months apart to make more money off both releases.

They just want to give the fans more music. They had all these extra songs that they couldn't throw on the CD so they decide to put certain B-sides in different stores all of which will make it to the internet on the first hour of it's release.

And it's not like they're expecting everyone to buy 5 or 6 copies of they're CD, that would be a ****ing stupid attemt to make money. Think of what everyone in here is saying "well I'll just download the B-sides" do any of you think that they wouldn't have predicted that was going to happen? If you really think about it and stop trying to instantly deal the ****ing sellout card then you'll realize that they're putting out two albums and pretty much giving us an EP for free. Are you happy now you bunch of ingrateful narrow minded bastards?

[TomMorelloSux]

Kendawg4TooL:
GreenDayCh
ris:
way to scam your fans


Wow, some people can be real ****ing idiots. There not scamming anybody dumbass. If anything they're giving more to the fans. They're putting out a double album which is already great because a sellout band like SOAD will just put the albums out months apart to make more money off both releases.

They just want to give the fans more music. They had all these extra songs that they couldn't throw on the CD so they decide to put certain B-sides in different stores all of which will make it to the internet on the first hour of it's release.

And it's not like they're expecting everyone to buy 5 or 6 copies of they're CD, that would be a ****ing stupid attemt to make money. Think of what everyone in here is saying "well I'll just download the B-sides" do any of you think that they wouldn't have predicted that was going to happen? If you really think about it and stop trying to instantly deal the ****ing sellout card then you'll realize that they're putting out two albums and pretty much giving us an EP for free. Are you happy now you bunch of ingrateful narrow minded bastards?


well put

[rock_or_roll]

hey dude wat u got against tom morello?? ^^^

[rock_or_roll]

TomMorelloSux:
Ke
ndawg4TooL:
GreenDayCh

ris:
way to scam your fans


Wow, some people can be real ****ing idiots. There not scamming anybody dumbass. If anything they're giving more to the fans. They're putting out a double album which is already great because a sellout band like SOAD will just put the albums out months apart to make more money off both releases.

They just want to give the fans more music. They had all these extra songs that they couldn't throw on the CD so they decide to put certain B-sides in different stores all of which will make it to the internet on the first hour of it's release.

And it's not like they're expecting everyone to buy 5 or 6 copies of they're CD, that would be a ****ing stupid attemt to make money. Think of what everyone in here is saying "well I'll just download the B-sides" do any of you think that they wouldn't have predicted that was going to happen? If you really think about it and stop trying to instantly deal the ****ing sellout card then you'll realize that they're putting out two albums and pretty much giving us an EP for free. Are you happy now you bunch of ingrateful narrow minded bastards?

yer i was figuring out how 2 put my thoughts on the subject in2 words nd u just did it there....i certainly wouldnt have bothered 2 rite as much as u did though lol

[skindred]

tom morello does not suck mother f*cker, but bravo on what you was writing about there, system maybe sellout, dont matter, still write f*cking great music.

[skindred]

tom morello does not suck mother f*cker, but bravo on what you was writing about there, system maybe sellout, dont matter, still write f*cking great music.

[washingmachine]

RHCP should do what the smashing pumpkins did with Machina 2 and put all the extra songs on the internet for people to download legally for free

[whitebluesboy]

The only problem with RHCP's mastermind of a business plan is that we have something today called the internet where in the time it takes to read this post I could have just downloaded one of those bonus songs.

[whitebluesboy]

The only problem with RHCP's mastermind of plan is that we have something today called the internet where in the time it takes for someone to read this post, I could have just downloaded one of those bonus tracks.

[shotgunjoe]

I will buy one copy of the album and download the rest of the tracks I don't have. Simple.

[neffhead]

Money-grabbing chancers...still love 'em though, and will probers get the album anyways.Though it would serve em right if everyone just downloaded the album free.

[Lawtey]

Im stoked, John Frusciante is an amazing guitarist. Whens this going to be released again?

[rhcproxmysox]

Kendawg4TooL wrote:

GreenDayChris:


way to scam your fans


Wow, some people can be real ****ing idiots. There not scamming anybody dumbass. If anything they're giving more to the fans. They're putting out a double album which is already great because a sellout band like SOAD will just put the albums out months apart to make more money off both releases.

They just want to give the fans more music. They had all these extra songs that they couldn't throw on the CD so they decide to put certain B-sides in different stores all of which will make it to the internet on the first hour of it's release.

And it's not like they're expecting everyone to buy 5 or 6 copies of they're CD, that would be a ****ing stupid attemt to make money. Think of what everyone in here is saying "well I'll just download the B-sides" do any of you think that they wouldn't have predicted that was going to happen? If you really think about it and stop trying to instantly deal the ****ing sellout card then you'll realize that they're putting out two albums and pretty much giving us an EP for free. Are you happy now you bunch of ingrateful narrow minded bastards?

AMEN!!!

[Guitar_Dude777]

Im sure its there way to make more money...cheap bastards...but hey its new RHCP so sweet

[Nirvana_rocks73]

Kendawg4TooL wrote:

GreenDayChris:


way to scam your fans

Wow, some people can be real ****ing idiots. There not scamming anybody dumbass. If anything they're giving more to the fans. They're putting out a double album which is already great because a sellout band like SOAD will just put the albums out months apart to make more money off both releases.

They just want to give the fans more music. They had all these extra songs that they couldn't throw on the CD so they decide to put certain B-sides in different stores all of which will make it to the internet on the first hour of it's release.

And it's not like they're expecting everyone to buy 5 or 6 copies of they're CD, that would be a ****ing stupid attemt to make money. Think of what everyone in here is saying "well I'll just download the B-sides" do any of you think that they wouldn't have predicted that was going to happen? If you really think about it and stop trying to instantly deal the ****ing sellout card then you'll realize that they're putting out two albums and pretty much giving us an EP for free. Are you happy now you bunch of ingrateful narrow minded bastards?

Very, very well said. Way to put those dumbasses in there place!!

[my$mileisarifle]

Alright, everyone needs to chill the **** out, honestly how long has it been since by the way.. 4 years? its about ****ing time i say. so what if u have to mission for the bonus tracks, suck it up pussy. if it wasnt for limewire and torrents and such this ploy is actually ingenius, it would give everyone a different flava of the chili's. whats a few hours max downloading a few songs.. jesus christ.

[my$mileisarifle]

Alright, everyone needs to chill the **** out, honestly how long has it been since by the way.. 4 years? its about ****ing time i say. so what if u have to mission for the bonus tracks, suck it up pussy. if it wasnt for limewire and torrents and such this ploy is actually ingenius, it would give everyone a different flava of the chili's. whats a few hours max downloading a few songs.. jesus christ.

[FretPopper]

Well they could sell the normal cd with the tracks and some of the bonus junk missing and then also sell a different version with all the tracks for a bigger price. You never know.

[_Metallica_]

I think ill just get one album and download the rest, an easy solution

[AimlessAmoeba]

They were going to release the album anyway, without the bonus tracks. They're doing us a favor by giving us this extra shit, not trying to scam us. Smarten up.

[XWildChildX2212]

Wow everyone on here is just asking to get sued... haha... i think they should have just made a 2nd part to the album you can buy.

[unholy_guitar]

smart little basturds....

[Tiamat]

great group but their money making scheme dissapoints me.

[Mr. PJ]

All this talk about an album that won't be released for four months. Yeah, right: bad idea.

These guys are competing with sh't like "American Idol" or Jessica Simson to get noticed (EVEN if they ARE the Chili Peppers).

If you think that's an untrue statement then you don't have any real perspective on the business of getting an album into the world. If I was an independent label this would be the perfect thing to get people to talk about an album more than say the average american (yes, you) would spend talking about who the next "Idol" will be. And you'll find out who that idol is whenever you turn on the computer or the television at just about the time this album gets released, and that just now, at this time, when you start to hear the Peppers more on the "classic rock station" than your clear-channel-controlled "modern rock" station. This at a time when even most people on here are now only buying single digital songs and not entire albums, not the actual physical cassette, vinyl (Er, wuz that?) or compact disc, no more artwork needed, just churned out three minute single after three-minute, hot ring tone.

Personally I think it's a brilliant marketing ploy. Like say: 'the white album.' long before metallica's black album. the wall. physical graffiti. I stood in line until the nationally-advertised "special midnight sales" at a record store for g'n'r's use your illusion (also not-exactly a double album.) And I only liked six or so of the songs on it. Later that year, axl walked, drunk, out of TWO different concerts that I paid about 200 dollars for. (Axl: a TRUE sellout who's biggest news currently is that he is still not yet releasing an album I don't want to hear. For more on the "sellout" thing, see below.)

The RHCP are actually, I think, doing something a bit dangerous in the current marketplace just by releasing a double album. A record company looks at it like this: A double album costs more to produce, to physically create, and ship. A double album takes up more space in the store, but sells less because of the higher yet, unavoidale costs of all of it. Big conglomerate or small, indie-label, you have to think about these costs. Hell, think of what it costs to make copies of your own music for sale at your gigs. Or just tell me how you would go about recording, registering and copying five thousand cd's on your own. Two million? Thirty million? I can barely find the time to burn a copy of somebody else's sh't for a friend.

As for the guy who said something about SOAD's hypnotize/mesmerize release dates being a scam: WTF?
SOAD does not have the recognition that RHCP do, not even close, AND they, almost exclusively, write songs about how f'd up the U.S. really is. I can just imagine the smug dismissal when those guys first approached an exec at their label with 30 or so songs that say screw you for believing in this system. They released an album called "STEAL THIS ALBUM."

Sellout? Damn, that gets thrown about with all the stupidity of zombie people who have no clue how their society really operates. I would give my left nut to have the chance to get paid for writing and performing my own songs for the rest of my life.

And so would you, if offered the chance. Do you really think either of these bands are compromising who they are for more money?

Let me get this straight: you're saying:
"I would rather jerk it alone in my mother's garage than try to get every last m'f'r on the planet listening to my song at least once."

Yeah, right. Either your sellout accusations are bu]]sh't or your playing sucks and you don't have a single hope of considering any deal, even less for considering the possible ways of promoting all the songs you haven't written lately in a glutted market where everyone claims to be the next Jim Morrison or Tom Morello.

I have a marketing suggestion for you: maybe you should try wearing stuffed-animal pants. Oh wait, yes, that's right, RHCP has ALWAYS known how to get people to talk about them, and, yes, I'm pretty certain they enjoy it... without compromise.

So: why then would anyone want a deal from which you take money? Because you need distribution, you need budgets for working with any respectable level of producer, engineer, mastering dude, tech, rodie, agent, or crotch buffer. You need help to get into networks like clear channel which owns radio and aren't they buying stadiums now? This so people know you exist, other than the twenty jackasses who pass out drunk at the bar you play. Those twenty jackasses will NOT pay your bills.

So you have a choice:
1) Sign a contract where the majority of the "business" is done for you while you do things like, say, pratice scales before a concert (where you actually make your money as a signed band member (not record sales)),
or you:
2) Do it yourself, minus people who have experience to help you, on the internet. Yes, stop calling people sellouts until you actually put something out into the world without the help from anyone else.
or:
3) Change the system itself.

[Mr. PJ]

All that and I don't even care much when I've waited too long for Tool to finally release something again.

Me in May: Chili Who's? Leave me alone, I'm busy playing this cd nonstop for hours on end.

Tony Kaye is a crazy man... don't let him NEAR a camera.

[rock_or_roll]

Mr. PJ:
All this talk about an album that won't be released for four months. Yeah, right: bad idea.

These guys are competing with sh't like "American Idol" or Jessica Simson to get noticed (EVEN if they ARE the Chili Peppers).

If you think that's an untrue statement then you don't have any real perspective on the business of getting an album into the world. If I was an independent label this would be the perfect thing to get people to talk about an album more than say the average american (yes, you) would spend talking about who the next "Idol" will be. And you'll find out who that idol is whenever you turn on the computer or the television at just about the time this album gets released, and that just now, at this time, when you start to hear the Peppers more on the "classic rock station" than your clear-channel-controlled "modern rock" station. This at a time when even most people on here are now only buying single digital songs and not entire albums, not the actual physical cassette, vinyl (Er, wuz that?) or compact disc, no more artwork needed, just churned out three minute single after three-minute, hot ring tone.

Personally I think it's a brilliant marketing ploy. Like say: 'the white album.' long before metallica's black album. the wall. physical graffiti. I stood in line until the nationally-advertised "special midnight sales" at a record store for g'n'r's use your illusion (also not-exactly a double album.) And I only liked six or so of the songs on it. Later that year, axl walked, drunk, out of TWO different concerts that I paid about 200 dollars for. (Axl: a TRUE sellout who's biggest news currently is that he is still not yet releasing an album I don't want to hear. For more on the "sellout" thing, see below.)

The RHCP are actually, I think, doing something a bit dangerous in the current marketplace just by releasing a double album. A record company looks at it like this: A double album costs more to produce, to physically create, and ship. A double album takes up more space in the store, but sells less because of the higher yet, unavoidale costs of all of it. Big conglomerate or small, indie-label, you have to think about these costs. Hell, think of what it costs to make copies of your own music for sale at your gigs. Or just tell me how you would go about recording, registering and copying five thousand cd's on your own. Two million? Thirty million? I can barely find the time to burn a copy of somebody else's sh't for a friend.

As for the guy who said something about SOAD's hypnotize/mesmerize release dates being a scam: WTF?
SOAD does not have the recognition that RHCP do, not even close, AND they, almost exclusively, write songs about how f'd up the U.S. really is. I can just imagine the smug dismissal when those guys first approached an exec at their label with 30 or so songs that say screw you for believing in this system. They released an album called "STEAL THIS ALBUM."

Sellout? Damn, that gets thrown about with all the stupidity of zombie people who have no clue how their society really operates. I would give my left nut to have the chance to get paid for writing and performing my own songs for the rest of my life.

And so would you, if offered the chance. Do you really think either of these bands are compromising who they are for more money?

Let me get this straight: you're saying:
"I would rather jerk it alone in my mother's garage than try to get every last m'f'r on the planet listening to my song at least once."

Yeah, right. Either your sellout accusations are bu]]sh't or your playing sucks and you don't have a single hope of considering any deal, even less for considering the possible ways of promoting all the songs you haven't written lately in a glutted market where everyone claims to be the next Jim Morrison or Tom Morello.

I have a marketing suggestion for you: maybe you should try wearing stuffed-animal pants. Oh wait, yes, that's right, RHCP has ALWAYS known how to get people to talk about them, and, yes, I'm pretty certain they enjoy it... without compromise.

So: why then would anyone want a deal from which you take money? Because you need distribution, you need budgets for working with any respectable level of producer, engineer, mastering dude, tech, rodie, agent, or crotch buffer. You need help to get into networks like clear channel which owns radio and aren't they buying stadiums now? This so people know you exist, other than the twenty jackasses who pass out drunk at the bar you play. Those twenty jackasses will NOT pay your bills.

So you have a choice:
1) Sign a contract where the majority of the "business" is done for you while you do things like, say, pratice scales before a concert (where you actually make your money as a signed band member (not record sales)),
or you:
2) Do it yourself, minus people who have experience to help you, on the internet. Yes, stop calling people sellouts until you actually put something out into the world without the help from anyone else.
or:
3) Change the system itself.

wat a freakin

[rock_or_roll]

wat a freakin waste of space....nobodys gonna have the energy 2 read all that!

quality over quantity

[Mr. Jaco]

sure theres people out there that dont have a problem with collecting good songs illegally, i have no objections if thats what they want. but instead why dont RHCP do what thrice has done with the new album Vheissu and release two versions, the first being what they have already said they would do, but second release an edition with three cds (its been done before) and just charge say double what you would pay for a regular cd (hey your still getting three for the price of two). Im sure most devoted fans would not have a problem with forking out the extra green for this second edition. I dont think its a marketing scheme because they already are as rich as kings so they cant need that much more money. i think its an interesting idea they have announced and im sure they have it in their plans that people download the extra tracks, but owning an original copy of a cd is much better than burnt copy because they tend to have a better sound quality and you simply treat them better.

[anal frost]

Skadogg wrote:

You, anal frost. Great name.

cheers

[my$mileisarifle]

mr pj, good arguement. after thinking about it, i think what they should've planned to do was like how john frusciante did it a few years back, releace numerous albums, whatever lenth, throughout the year, on the internet and in stores. that i think would keep the consumer wanting to preview the next album and the next and so on. or even release all at once in a box set or a set of some kind.

[no_comedy]

Mr Pj, how long did it take you to write that essay of a post? Good point tho.

[prophetic420]

im going to download the album and all the bonus tracks fo free. then ill check out which album has the best combination of artwork and bonus tracks and purchase that one legally. the record company is marketing to its distributors not its customers, so you know who their daddy i$.

[fakiexflipx005]

mr. pj has way too much time on his hands...

[Bobbington]

its a shame that the genius of the chili peppers isn't appreciated by most ppl anymore. at the moment there's too much rap, hip-hop, r & b and pop etc etc etc etc. bring back the talented musicians and songwriters rather than these ppl that think speaking into a mike about "da streets" and how "gangsta" they are can pass for good music.

[funky_punk]

WOOHOOO GO BOBBINGTON but some kanye wests ok. apart 4rm that its a load of shite :P

[jnr900]

I don't see what any of you are complaining about (those of you that are). What is it that they're doing wrong? Getting those tracks out there? Would you perhaps prefer if the tracks never got released at all? Getting 13 otherwise non-existent tracks to their fans is hardly selling out. And no one is making anyone buy these other album versions, I doubt anyone these days is so naive that they don't know how much music is downloaded in a not so legal way.

[cap'nkirk]

Mr. PJ wrote:

All this talk about an album that won't be released for four months. Yeah, right: bad idea.

These guys are competing with sh't like "American Idol" or Jessica Simson to get noticed (EVEN if they ARE the Chili Peppers).

If you think that's an untrue statement then you don't have any real perspective on the business of getting an album into the world. If I was an independent label this would be the perfect thing to get people to talk about an album more than say the average american (yes, you) would spend talking about who the next "Idol" will be. And you'll find out who that idol is whenever you turn on the computer or the television at just about the time this album gets released, and that just now, at this time, when you start to hear the Peppers more on the "classic rock station" than your clear-channel-controlled "modern rock" station. This at a time when even most people on here are now only buying single digital songs and not entire albums, not the actual physical cassette, vinyl (Er, wuz that?) or compact disc, no more artwork needed, just churned out three minute single after three-minute, hot ring tone.

Personally I think it's a brilliant marketing ploy. Like say: 'the white album.' long before metallica's black album. the wall. physical graffiti. I stood in line until the nationally-advertised "special midnight sales" at a record store for g'n'r's use your illusion (also not-exactly a double album.) And I only liked six or so of the songs on it. Later that year, axl walked, drunk, out of TWO different concerts that I paid about 200 dollars for. (Axl: a TRUE sellout who's biggest news currently is that he is still not yet releasing an album I don't want to hear. For more on the "sellout" thing, see below.)

The RHCP are actually, I think, doing something a bit dangerous in the current marketplace just by releasing a double album. A record company looks at it like this: A double album costs more to produce, to physically create, and ship. A double album takes up more space in the store, but sells less because of the higher yet, unavoidale costs of all of it. Big conglomerate or small, indie-label, you have to think about these costs. Hell, think of what it costs to make copies of your own music for sale at your gigs. Or just tell me how you would go about recording, registering and copying five thousand cd's on your own. Two million? Thirty million? I can barely find the time to burn a copy of somebody else's sh't for a friend.

As for the guy who said something about SOAD's hypnotize/mesmerize release dates being a scam: WTF?
SOAD does not have the recognition that RHCP do, not even close, AND they, almost exclusively, write songs about how f'd up the U.S. really is. I can just imagine the smug dismissal when those guys first approached an exec at their label with 30 or so songs that say screw you for believing in this system. They released an album called "STEAL THIS ALBUM."

Sellout? Damn, that gets thrown about with all the stupidity of zombie people who have no clue how their society really operates. I would give my left nut to have the chance to get paid for writing and performing my own songs for the rest of my life.

And so would you, if offered the chance. Do you really think either of these bands are compromising who they are for more money?

Let me get this straight: you're saying:
"I would rather jerk it alone in my mother's garage than try to get every last m'f'r on the planet listening to my song at least once."

Yeah, right. Either your sellout accusations are bu]]sh't or your playing sucks and you don't have a single hope of considering any deal, even less for considering the possible ways of promoting all the songs you haven't written lately in a glutted market where everyone claims to be the next Jim Morrison or Tom Morello.

I have a marketing suggestion for you: maybe you should try wearing stuffed-animal pants. Oh wait, yes, that's right, RHCP has ALWAYS known how to get people to talk about them, and, yes, I'm pretty certain they enjoy it... without compromise.

So: why then would anyone want a deal from which you take money? Because you need distribution, you need budgets for working with any respectable level of producer, engineer, mastering dude, tech, rodie, agent, or crotch buffer. You need help to get into networks like clear channel which owns radio and aren't they buying stadiums now? This so people know you exist, other than the twenty jackasses who pass out drunk at the bar you play. Those twenty jackasses will NOT pay your bills.

So you have a choice:
1) Sign a contract where the majority of the "business" is done for you while you do things like, say, pratice scales before a concert (where you actually make your money as a signed band member (not record sales)),
or you:
2) Do it yourself, minus people who have experience to help you, on the internet. Yes, stop calling people sellouts until you actually put something out into the world without the help from anyone else.
or:
3) Change the system itself.

[cap'nkirk]

^so, did you have that lying around? lol, good points though. The Peppers are amoung the last few great song writers in the world. I can't wait for it, I'm sure it'll do just fine, considering the new packaging used for double albums.

[Jobo_The_Hobo]

LISTEN TO THE JoBo, HE IS WISE! Right, buy alllll the god damn albums, each one with their bonus song. Then go into a little shop that sells little sticky label things. BUY THEM! Now, on each label write the bonus song on it and give the album a name. Its the least we can do for the Chili's. I don't no about you but they have provided me many musically assiciated orgasm's over their time, I must repay them...WE MUST REPAY THEM! Long live Flea....LONG LIVE ME!

[The*Music*Man]

.:KrAmJaN:. wrote:

GreenDayChris wrote:

way to scam your fans


Says kid who listens to green day....

yea man the new green day shit sucks but they used to be sweet

[sikamikanico87]

New album is gonna be brilliant.Eagerly Awaiting it..

1 more things to the greenday users that keep bagging out RHCP . If ya dont like them stay the FU@K off the forum caz all ya do is piss us PEPPERS off.

[daver869]

Letterbomb11 wrote:

This is the reason Limewire still exists. Rare songs.

true