Smashing Pumpkins To Release 4 Versions Of New Album

Smashing Pumpkins will release four different versions of new album 'Zeitgeist' in the US.

The standard version features twelve tracks, but three further versions will be released at various locations.

Albums sold at Best Buy stores include the bonus track 'Death From Above' while those sold at Target will feature the song 'Zeitgeist'. Additionally, the iTunes version of the album has a bonus track entitled 'Stellar'.

Smashing Pumpkins will be releasing four different versions of Zeitgeist depending on where it's purchased. The standard version includes twleve tracks, but if it's purchased at either Target or Bestbuy it will include bonus tracks, each with a different song. Lastly, the iTunes version will also come with an additional track entitled "Stellar".

Standard:

01. Doomsday Clock
02. 7 Shades of Black
03. Bleeding the Orchid
04. That's The Way (My Love Is)
05. Tarantula
06. Starz
07. United States
08. Neverlost
09. Bring The Light
10. (Come On) Let's Go!
11. For God And Country
12. Pomp And Circumstances

Best Buy:

01. Doomsday Clock
02. 7 Shades of Black
03. Bleeding the Orchid
04. That's The Way (My Love Is)
05. Tarantula
06. Starz
07. United States
08. Neverlost
09. Death From Above (Bonus Track
10. Bring The Light
11. (Come On) Let's Go!
12. For God And Country
13. Pomp And Circumstances

Target:

01. Doomsday Clock
02. 7 Shades of Black
03. Bleeding the Orchid
04. That's The Way (My Love Is)
05. Tarantula
06. Starz
07. United States
08. Neverlost
09. Bring The Light
10. (Come On) Let's Go!
11. For God And Country
12. Pomp And Circumstances
13. Zeitgeist (Bonus Track)

iTunes:

01. Doomsday Clock
02. 7 Shades of Black
03. Bleeding the Orchid
04. That's The Way (My Love Is)
05. Tarantula
06. Starz
07. United States
08. Neverlost
09. Bring The Light
10. (Come On) Let's Go!
11. For God And Country
12. Pomp And Circumstances
13. Stellar

Comments

[AgainsTheMirror]

sweeeeet first woot!!! anyway this sounds pretty cool, nice marketing scheme, i'll prob get the bestbuy one and download the others, death from above sounds fun

[grunge geek al]

this doesn't affect me yet being a UK resident but
they'll probably all be available on itunes anyway so i'd just download the bonus tracks

[frankv]

Never expected such marketing from the Pumkpins. They could better have released a bonus version later with all the extra tracks. Maybe all those bonus tracks will be B-sides or something, if that's the case I don't mind that much.

[cherub_rocker07]

damn,. i was hoping for a special edition with all the bonus tracks

[cherub_rocker07]

damn, i was hoping for a special edition with all the bonus tracks

[jmikesisadouche]

cant wait to download it off bittorent...bullshit marketing technique

[electric7]

iTunes also has a preorder for some myspace cover song thing. while i enjoy the bravery and +44, i might actually scream if i hear the Panic! At The Disco version of some of SP's songs.

oh yeah. FIRST.

[AgainsTheMirror]

sweeeeet first woot! anyway this sounds pretty cool, nice marketing scheme, i'm geeting the bestbuy one :]

[ilovemyepi]

sounds like a way to make everyone buy more versions of the album, haha. but i'm sure most of the people will just download them.

Hmm...

Checked.

[happytimeharry]

Ha, and the record industry wonders why so many people download these days.

[registered_user]

thats really lame

[IHateFallOutBoy]

electric7 wrote:

iTunes also has a preorder for some myspace cover song thing. while i enjoy the bravery and +44, i might actually scream if i hear the Panic! At The Disco version of some of SP's songs.

oh yeah. FIRST.

i almost cried when i found out Hawthorne Heights was doin Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

anyway, ill apobably get the target, and on wikipedia it says there are different color schemed covers. anyone have more info on that??

[Eddy Hitler]

this is pointless. 4 of d same record, 1 extra song each!? why?

[Metallica708]

Corporate sellout much?

[halffast]

This pisses me off. I don't want to buy the album three times.

[BradKohl]

the other albums were exciting, so I will have to get my hands on one of these. I'll probly just end up downloading the bonus tracks off itunes

[-heartbreaker-]

I'm just going to download the entire album, might as well download the bonus tracks while I'm at it...

[elcapitan1800]

Weak. Either the target or the best buy one sound good, and then Ill download the other songs

happytimeharry wrote:

Ha, and the record industry wonders why so many people download these days.

[.M.I.M.R.5.]

Things like this piss me off, and it hits harder when it's from a respectable band like The Smashing Pumpkins. It's all a marketing scheme that many other artists do with Best Buy and occasionally with Target.

I'm going to buy the standard version because I hate supporting *******s like these companies. Then I'll with a giant smile on my face, download the other songs online knowing Best Buy nor Target got my fat ass dirty dollar. Besides, buying cds used on Amazon.com are way cheaper and are in near perfect condition, if they aren't to begin with. I've bought nearly half my cds this way (and the only way I will now) and have excellent luck.

I'm sure Billy was like...well...I'm not sure, then the Best Buy and Target CEOs whipped out their checkbooks and Billy was seeing dollar signs...

[gwitersnamps]

You have to buy from a specific store just to get the TITLE TRACK? What!!!????

[llama_guitarist]

that's almost like the Mars Volta not having Frances the Mute come with the title track lol.

I'm gonna go buy the one from best buy most likely and then download the rest of the songs. which is different cause i usually just download the whole cd :P

[xthpsgodx]

The new QOTSA album did this too. 1 extra track from Best buy, circuit city, their own website and FYE.

Interesting and not very convenient...

Checked.

[UMadeMeRealise]

I'll just buy the standard version and download the other tracks. It's sad to see that Billy Corgan has become such a *****.

[Kozworth]

I'm really torn over which version I should buy, the one with "Death from Above" or the title track "Zeitgeist." I'll probably go for the song that is longer. Anyone know the length of the songs, or a site that might help?

[HandOfDoom13]

I love TSP but now they are just being money hungry.

[frankv]

Kozworth wrote:

I'm really torn over which version I should buy, the one with "Death from Above" or the title track "Zeitgeist." I'll probably go for the song that is longer. Anyone know the length of the songs, or a site that might help?

You just need to wait till it gets seeded or is on Limewire, then compare.

[soulburn101]

Congrats, Billy Corgan on successfully growing a semi-decent mustouche!

[toxicity33]

Interesting. Who's the chick in the picture with Billy?

[Iruleeverything]

This was most likely the idea of somebody in the marketing section of the record label trying to squeeze money out of a dying business. Their new single was even that good.

[scarfacesuit]

i'll be buying it at target, cause i don't live near a best buy

[Ions]

I can bet that Billy didn't do this, since so many people are looking to this album the record company will decides all of this, its like what Trent of NIN said a while back, the record company will reward the fans and make them pay more(but that was about the sales prices higher in foreign countries, but same nonetheless).

[flyingjo21]

I don't like it, seems like a rip-off. I don't wanna download from bittorrent to get all the songs but I don't want to have to buy extra albums either. Hopefully iTunes will have all the songs at some point. To answer toxicity33 - that's D'arcy, the original bass player

[Rebourne]

Well now I'm not buying it, that is disgusting.

[toha33]

so gossamer is just a live thing they did? I thought it was gonna be on the album

[BreakingTheGirl]

damn, they said the same exact thing three times in a row.

[AndyVanHalen]

Dammit I hate when bands do this, you have to buy the CD four times to get all the songs. Lame as hell.

Checked

[mishra]

wow talk about being jerks. billy corgan is a nice guy but hes grown too money hungry

[AndyVanHalen]

HandOfDoom13 wrote:

I love TSP but now they are just being money hungry.

Well, I really doubt that the actual band has anything to do with it, this stuff is usually decided by the label.

Still though, its lame. I wish iTunes let you buy their bonus tracks by themselves, but usually in order to get it, you have to buy the entire album. Am I going to spend 10 dollars just so I can hear one song?? No. I think its cool that alot of times CDs come with bonus DVDs and alternate versions of songs and stuff, but when they release like 4 different versions of the same thing, then I get ticked.

[zalitz]

I heard the Peppers throwing around that idea before Stadium Arcadium was finally released, but I was relieved it never went through. Whatever, it might just be filler songs that didn't make the cut of the original track list. If we wait long enough, and the Pumpkins make a few more albums, they'll release another B-sides album anyway that will probably have them, but if you guys are really sore about it, that's what illegal downloading is for. The quickest way to a corporation's pain is through their wallets.

[IronfistGuy]

That's quite clever how this article repeated the same thing three times in a row. Clearly a stylistic device used there to represent the unnecessary nature of this particular marketing scheme... :P

[SEA*live]

it is true that the corporate labels take the 'initiantive' on marketing the albums, but you'd think if they really wanted to force people to buy more than one album they would have more than one song that was different on each, that is just annoying

[siegel]

reminds me of pokemon- if you wanna catch 'em all, you have to buy both red and blue version. I gave in back then, but i'll just buy the target zeitgeist

[Gavvvvvin]

I'm pretty sure including exclusive songs on CD's isn't a new concept. If you don't want to pay for them then dont. The intelligence of these comments can only be matched by the writer of this article. The intelligence of these comments can only be matched by the writer of this article. The intelligence of these comments can only be matched by the writer of this article.

[Cied Shredder]

In other words "The record company is money hungry so we're trying to rip all the SP junkies off".

[bigtoad]

Stuff like this just shows how out of touch the record companies are with music fans.
A person like myself, who is just a casual Pumpkins fan, most likely would have purchased this album. Seeing that I would have to purchase the album multiple times just to get all the songs (including the TITLE TRACK!) pretty much guarantees that I will be visiting a bittorrent site to get all of the tracks.
Now, since I know in advance that I'm going to be doing some downloading just to avoid having to buy the album more than once...I might as well save myself the trouble and download the whole thing while I'm at it.
Congratulations gimmick marketing.

Checked again.

[Havenspear]

IHateFallOutBoy wrote:

i almost cried when i found out Hawthorne Heights was doin Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

Hmm. I just listened to it. An interesting delivery but it doesn't pack half the punch of the original song. the original is WAY heavier. Their version is WAY poppy.

[the.spine.surfs]

I'm moderatly depressed that you'd have to cough up $40 to get all the tracks. I'd rather buy the full album, and have the bonus tracks as $2 singles.

[dnamra13]

SELLOUTS

[tmwtp]

toxicity33 wrote:

Interesting. Who's the chick in the picture with Billy?

NOOB!! j/k she's actually a member of the band.

[D. Hero]

This sounds cool. I'll probably go to Best Buy, then download the others. Interesting idea for the bonus tracks though.

[Tw1zzler]

i thought the pumpkins were better than this

money *****s

[Shredfrmtehdead]

I'm pretty sure Billy didn't do this. Comeon, they released their last album for free. It's the record companies.

[Quikslayer666]

Stuff like this just shows how out of touch the record companies are with music fans.
A person like myself, who is just a casual Pumpkins fan, most likely would have purchased this album. Seeing that I would have to purchase the album multiple times just to get all the songs (including the TITLE TRACK!) pretty much guarantees that I will be visiting a bittorrent site to get all of the tracks.
Now, since I know in advance that I'm going to be doing some downloading just to avoid having to buy the album more than once...I might as well save myself the trouble and download the whole thing while I'm at it.
Congratulations gimmick marketing.


exactly what I was thinking why do bands name an album and leave the title track off the same happened with foo fighters colour and the shape I think its strange but whatever.

[soapalot]

Jesus, we got enough of this bollocks with Queens of the Stone Age's new album. Suppose it doesn't affect me cos I'm not in the US. Regardless I'm sure it'll become the trend, like those shitty digi-paks (god I hate them so much)

[cloudy_skies]

Quikslayer666 :
Stuff like this just shows how out of touch the record companies are with music fans.
A person like myself, who is just a casual Pumpkins fan, most likely would have purchased this album. Seeing that I would have to purchase the album multiple times just to get all the songs (including the TITLE TRACK!) pretty much guarantees that I will be visiting a bittorrent site to get all of the tracks.
Now, since I know in advance that I'm going to be doing some downloading just to avoid having to buy the album more than once...I might as well save myself the trouble and download the whole thing while I'm at it.
Congratulations gimmick marketing.


exactly what I was thinking why do bands name an album and leave the title track off the same happened with foo fighters colour and the shape I think its strange but whatever.

I agree wholeheartedly with just about every word you said. If the Smashing Pumpkins and their record label honestly think they can get anyone but the most hardcore of fans to *buy* four copies of the same album (which could send them anywhere from 40 to 80 dollars in the hole), then I really have to question their collective sanity. This is definitely going to lead the casual fans to limewire and bittorrent to get all of the songs, or just the songs they want. It's also is the biggest marketing gimmick since all of those "special edition" CD/DVD (or worse, DualDisc!) albums that started coming out a few years ago.

Although on the topic of leaving a title track off of an album...Zeppelin did that with Houses of the Holy, and it is questionable but there's no doubt that Houses is one of their best albums with or without the track.

[lukejc1]

that is really lame. they just want people to buy their album 4 times to boost sales. lame

[el bobbo]

Quikslayer666 wrote:

exactly what I was thinking why do bands name an album and leave the title track off the same happened with foo fighters colour and the shape I think its strange but whatever.

Zeppelin

[el bobbo]

I must be hungover because I didnt even see what the guy above my post wrote. Target and Best Buy must have paid the record company a bunch of cash. They want people coming into the store so they buy more useless crap they don't need. Bittorrent is the best option here.

[Stuminton]

yea what about the uk smashing p's???? dont we get a spec edition??

[TrivGtr187]

time to start downloadin!

Checkin

[Nerdo-sez-bo]

tmwtp wrote:

toxicity33 wrote:

Interesting. Who's the chick in the picture with Billy?

NOOB!! j/k she's actually a member of the band.

Ex-member*

[Like I Is]

Oh please. We'll be fine. Half of the people that listen to music nowadays don't even buy it.

Beck did this with his most recent album.

[SEA*live]

it would be funny if someone did actually purchase all four versions of the album and the bonus stracks weren't even that good

[euan_soad]

and 5 months later a re-relase with all 4 bonus tracks...

[hardrocker64]

Yea, I gotta question that move for sure. Who will go out and pick up multiple copys for a couple of songs.

jmikesisadouche wrote:

cant wait to download it off bittorent...bullshit marketing technique

[~Xerces~]

Man this blows =/

So they're basically making us buy three entire albums just to get all the songs from the album =/

money grab. Actually screw it, I'll just buy one and download the other, unless you can get a buy 1 get the other two for $2.

[true_rocker3122]

arrghh... pirate it... hmm i love SP... gonna have to buy one of the albums..

[f1sk]

what a horrible/lame idea

[Gavvvvvin]

I'm pretty sure Zeitgeist wont be the only Sp album without the titles track on it.

[Inahrima]

Haha, and they STILL wonder why people download music for free.

[Set-Abominae]

Dude, what the bloody hell? That's a very strange idea...

[soapalot]

The Japanese release will probably have all the bonus tracks. On thepumpkins.net forums theres a topic that lists all the different versions. There's honestly about 25 of them, which just makes me want to punch some record company executive in the face

[Drew_Entreri]

I'm going to buy the BestBuy CD because Death From Above sounds like it'll be good. It reminds me of Death From Above 1979(an awesome band).

Also, most of the myspace covers of their songs are huge disappointments. Although I loved The Bravery covering Rocket. A good band covering one of the more underrated Pumpkins songs.

[kaptink]

What a ****, he's only really in it for the money now (I'm guessing the "re-union" only came about after all his solo projects failed). Its a kick in the teeth for independant record stores when you can only get the freakin title track from a supermarket.

Checkeroo

[gsr2k6]

This is pathetic, It is becoming very hard to respect any band now days with all this marketing crap. Having to buy a cd at a certain store to get a certain song? Complete bullshit.

[saad_nirvana]

I didnt expect such a sellout move from the pumpkins...


one more awesome band loses its respect...

[xXxTJxXx69xXx]

With marketing ploys like this...it's a wonder why people download illegally!!!!

[CodyJuice]

wow...this is something i never thought id see billy do

[Nhex (PT)]

ilegal download is the best thing to do in this case

only for the money bahhh

[sebbsmith]

i agree, it's all for the money.
plus, Billys ego has expanded.

[NaivexLi]

I'll buy whichever one I see sitting on the "Used Cd" shelf, first.

[Deacon Blues]

what a BS way of gettting people to buy albums. i'm gonna download this one on general principle

[the waste]

So you have to buy 2 CDs and download a bonus track off iTunes to get them all? They're just setting themselves up to be illegally downloaded.

[frottage]

damn them, now i have to buy four copies, and i have dial-up, so God knows how i'll get the itunes one =(
and the bastards aren't playing with iha or d'arcy, so i'm not as excited.

[nin_freak92]

i cant stand it when bands release multiple versions of an album exclusive to a certain retailer, partly because that means they want to milk their "true fans" into giving them as much money as possible, and secondly just because it puts that much more frustration on the consumer. i've always thought it was stupid when a band releases a best buy version with a bonus track that u cant get unless u buy it at best buy, but 4 DIFFERENT VERSIONS!?!?!? thats just crazy! thats practically $40 for the consumer, and thats if u get lucky and all the retailers sell them for $10 each. This industry has gone to shit!

[Agony]

Something is wrong when everything that entertainment stands for, and I mean good entertainment, has been forgotten. Gone are the days of mass inspiration and gone are musicians who are so one-hundred-percent about the potency and relevancy of their messages that they forgot about the money. Art isn't dead. Music isn't dead, but when I see something like this, what it really is — a blatent marketing ploy — I certainly feel that we need a creative revolution. Personally I think we're on the brink.

And there are good bands even now (not necessarily the music, but the thoughts and emotions behind the music, imo just as important.)

Checked/Deleted.

[Nhex (PT)]

I have one more thing to say in this article, why isnt the song with the same name as the album in all of the versions ???

ps: hope this dont get me banned, just joking, hope somebody has sense of humor

[sowhat360]

If this doesnt scream "WE GOT BACK TOGETHER TO MAKE MONEY" I dont know what does. This makes me not want to get it now. The single is ok. The fact that you have to buy 4 albums to get all the songs is BS. It's a slap in the face for the fans.

[pierowmaniac]

Not the best of moves from the band. But Tarantula single is going to include one of those bonus tracks and I expect the other singles will do similar and you can usualy download just the b-sides from itnues anyway, so youve just got to buy clever to get the best deal.
And Im not too annoyed because lets be fair Billy did release an entire album (Machina II) of 25 tracks onto the internet for nothing.
Also lets not forget that Billy is also letting people record the live shows if they want to, so theres going to be quite a few live CD's making the rounds on the internet for free