Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth And Anthrax To Tour Together?

Slayer guitarist Kerry King has told U.K.'s Metal Hammer magazine that he has heard through the grapevine that Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich is plotting a tour that would include Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax.

Should this tour materialize, this would be the first time that the so-called "Big Four" of thrash have toured together as part of the same bill. Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax were joined by opening act Alice In Chains for the U.S. Clash Of The Titans tour in 1991, while Metallica and Megadeth last shared a U.K. stage at Milton Keynes Bowl in 1993.

In an interview conducted yesterday (Wednesday, September 2) in London, Metal Hammer asked Kerry if there had been a temptation to bring the co-headline tour that Slayer are about to embark on with Megadeth in Australia and Canada to U.K. shores.

"I think it would be cool but I knew we had this planned before all of this Megadeth stuff started happening," said King. "They're going to Australia with us, they're going to Canada again with us. I think it would be cool for the European fans to bring that over here because, shit, we didn't even consider playing with those guys since 1990."

So could it be possible that we could get a tour that includes the "Big Four?"

"I've heard people referencing Lars," said King. "I don't know Lars that well and I haven't heard it from Lars, but apparently he's talking to somebody about it. Maybe us, Metallica, Megadeth (and), I think he even threw in Anthrax and I said in this day and age, I know we had that time together, but how do you leave out Machine Head? There's better options than ANTHRAX and that's nothing against Anthrax, but they've just been in pieces for quite some time and that doesn't make as much sense to me."

Thanks for the report to Blabbermouth.net.

This article is a part of the Metal Thursday campaign.

Comments

[im not mental]

this would be amazing.

[Vicryl 2.0]

F*ck Machine Head!....dont get me wrong, i love Machine Head but i love Anthrax even more.

[TheXBlackening]

'But how do you leave out Machine Head?' That's brilliant. This tour looks like it could actually happen.

[maidenfan15]

Slayer and Anthrax are "meh" for me. But I would LOVE to see Metallica and Megadeth share a stage.

[whoa_backoff]

i vote machine head over anthrax

[BEBEB]

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

[SilentHeaven109]

Definately Machine Head over Anthrax. I love old Anthrax, but they really aren't as good these days as the rest of the Big Four. They don't technically have a singer at the moment, whereas Machine Head are absolutely amazing at the moment.

[josh999x]

I hope this happens would be the best metal tour of the decade.

[mashizz]

BEBEB wrote:

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

it probably will be really expensive

[TrabenBassist22]

I personally like machine head more than Anthrax but if they're going to do a tour with Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth they should at least include Anthrax to complete the big 4 imo.

[MoToRhEaD714]

machine head would just ruin the whole show with their lame vocals...
Anthrax isn't in pieces anymore...they are reuniting with john bush

[MasterExploder0]

I dunno if I'd be willing to pay for a ticket since I only like half of those bands, but 'Tallica and Megadeth on the same tour makes me jizz.

[Soloist96]

This would be awesome. I would love to see them play here is Los Angeles!

[Frodijr]

plz, plz, plz, plz, plz, plz, let this be true with the tour stoping off in ireland

[Shredder666]

Kerry King is an *******. The goal of this tour is to reunite the "Big Four," not reunite three of the four and throw in Machine Head. Nothing against Machine Head but Anthrax deserves to be apart of this. I'm surprised Kerry King didn't say that Metallica wasn't "metal" enough for him to perform with...

[oneblackened]

God, I'd give my left nut to see that show.

[bloke]

you would have to have Anthrax just because the big four headlining would be awesome... anthrax has always been the underdog, but they're still good enough to be there... this is about an entire generation of metal.. machine head are good... but they didn't spawn a genre...

[The Philosopher]

Please let this tour happen to complete my life.

[scoobybass]

As someone old to enough to have been in front row for Clash of the Titans I would have to say that Machine Head could open the tour much like Alice in Chains did, but if you are going to have a major tour like that you have to include Anthrax.

The original "Clash" was an amazing show and throwing Metallica in there would be cool for some. (I am not a big Metallica fan, but it would still be a hell of a show.)

[darkl64]

1. They'd only play stadiums.
2. Megadeth Slayer and Anthrax wouldn't get enough stage time, and they'd all argue about order.
3. I think it's great that Kerry holds Machine Head at a simmilar level to the big four, because it's sure as hell what they deserve.

[SanJose]

Sounds really interesting. The only bad thing is that Megadeth is the only band out of the other 3 that make good thrash.

[HelpTravesty]

I'm there, regardless of what I have to do.

[BlameTheMachine]

oneblackened wrote:

God, I'd give my left nut to see that show.

Your left? Why not your right?

[overkill127]

this would be really awesome but tickets really would break the bank.

Metallica alone was like 100, but with the other three I can easily see them adding another hundred or two

[Korzack]

"The Big 4 tour: Bringing calm & harmony to monkeys across the world"

[rockpwns92]

How would they decide who went on first? They'd be too many arguements going on for set lengths etc.

[Cafas]

Fuck Machine Head. People like to forget how they've always released albums based on what was popular at the time. Anthrax had more than their fair share of crap too, but Spreading the Disease and Among the Living are classics. And not in The Blackening "look how hardcore we are" way. Reform Vio-Lence and put them on the bill, but Machine Head beyond lame.

[shreducator]

The apocalypse is coming.

[MetallAndy]

This would be awesome!!!!! Probably hard to get tickets to it though.

[Brad_Bassist]

If this tour goes down and they don't go to Canada. I swear to god I'm killing something!!!!!

[JacK C]

i heard from a friend who's helping putting this show together, that Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield are gonna have a guitar battle...on expert

[metal@hart1101]

machinehead over anthrax anyday! they've been around since early 90s too but they are on the top of their game now and deserve the stage with these guys. anthrax is just washed up plain and simple

[MusicMan24]

That.Would.Be.The.Sickets.Tour.EVER.

[priest20201]

Holy F***!!!!! Hopefully Megadeth and Metallica will Co-headline or at least trade headlining spots, becuase I would rather see Megadeth headline again.

[Sputnik1]

Dude, Testament would be a lot better in the line up

[Andragon]

King says Head before Anthrax? Shameful.
Anyway, a Thrash the World tour would be good... overpriced but good.

[Gibson_SG_uzr55]

Even if you prefer Machine Head to Anthrax, it wouldnt be the same experience. A Big Four Tour would be epic

[herman ri2]

IMHO, I prefer Machine head over Anthrax but tbh, I rather see Anthrax int his because it wouldn't feel right to me. Machine Head isn't part of the Thrash Four and never will be. the only way this can be right is if the ORIGINAL thrash four were in it together.

[metal_al73]

OH MY GOD!!!!!

if this is real it would be INSANEEEE!

id pay ridiculous amounts to see this

[Slashness]

Kerry King seems like such a bitch. It seems that he uses every opportunity he has to advertise slayer and talk shit about other bands. I doubt this tour even exists. He probably just wants to get slayer's name in the news. Reign in Blood and South of Heaven were good but he is really not that good of a musician and Slayer has been releasing the same album for the last ten years.

[KnotParkDay]

Sorry, but I don't see Mustaine agreeing to tour with Tallica. And why not get Anthrax AND Machine Head on the tour?

[Metal4themasses]

I would definatly go

[Cafas]

My original comment aside, comments about the tour 'not being the same' if different bands were included are funny to me. Chances are no one here as any connection whatsoever to the scene, or what it is (including me), so the only 'integrity' in the lineup is what's been read in magazines. Which is also why people jizz over these bands and ignore Sodom and Kreator. Testament could have very well be one of the 'big four'.

[ZeGuitarist]

Checked.

[odtpdriver]

this sounds awesome. to bad pantara arnt around to get a piece of this. diffrent time i know, but there way better then anthrax and machine.

[herman ri2]

TBH, I don't see why Kerry thinks that they deserve to be in this more than Anthrax and saying who deserves the spot of Anthrax. Slayer hasn't done anything amazing since 1990. Every album after 1990 is basically just recycled slayer riffs and garbage solo works.

[PLOP]

Oh man!!!!! That sounds badass! Don't get me wrong-I love Machine Head, but I think it should be the Big Four +Testament

[herman ri2]

KnotParkDay wrote:

Sorry, but I don't see Mustaine agreeing to tour with Tallica. And why not get Anthrax AND Machine Head on the tour?

Then the tour will fail tbh. Lets face it, everyone is interested in this tour because Metallica and Dave Mustaine would sharing the same stage.

[Mattejo]

If this turns out to be true, it will be ****ing amazing!!

[j-walk]

Make no mistake, metallica will headline. Never listened to anthrax or machine head. Pantera would complete the big 4 for me. Yes I know why it wont happen so dont jump down my throat. Also dont believe this will happen anyway.

[pearlJam_31490]

Since when is Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer the big four? And i seriously doubt this tour would happen. I dont really like slayer and anthrax that much anyway.

[Cafas]

Since when is Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer the big four?

Since the ****ing 80s. They're EASILY the 4 most well known and best selling bands out of that scene. Nothing new at all.

[Snake™]

There should be another band there, which Machine Head or Testament would make sense.

[dandan321]

Sputnik1 wrote:

Dude, Testament would be a lot better in the line up

Definitely agree with you.

[SGstriker]

This could be one of the highest grossing tours ever.
I'd pay to see 'em all.

[leony03]

Mike90t09 wrote:

I say Metallica sucks and they will never be as good as they were, Kill em All was their only good album cause Dave Mustaine co wrote 4 songs. Megadeth is the shit because they havent changed like those Metallica Pussies

Erm the only remaining member of Megadeth is Dave. Metallica has all their originals apart from the bassist. To be going this long and (IMO) still make good music is excellent. In megadeth, they had different ideas for things and thats the reason they havent changed. They get new ideaas because they have new members. For this reason and others, i believe Metallica the better band. Dave mustaine is a dickhole. He said in an interview that was on here "i saw my names above James and Kirk on the list. I was like HAH!" This was about the top 100 guitar players or something.

Something along those lines. He's not a nice person but a good guitar player. Kirk and James are both nice people and can play guitar really well.

It was daves fault he got kicked out of the band. He was violent and poured beer on Ron McGovneys bass. I also read someithng about him kicking James dog but im not sure on that one. The other guys couldnt take it. Anyone would have done the same thing.

Sorry for the rant but it had to be said

[edgarvanburen]

megadeth & tallica on the same tour???
dnt thnk that'll happen in the next few millenia

[BeefCakes]

if this tour happened, i think it would be cool if they let the fans decide the stage order/headliner, like hold a vote for each show location or something

[BlisteringDDj]

This would've been so epic as long as they would come to Scandinavia! Anthrax isn't much of a band anymore. Testament or Exodus can easily replace Anthrax.

[KingSquall802]

If this is true, this is the BOMB!
I wonder if Dave M will allow himself to share stage with Metallica?

Of course Metallica is easily the best of the four. No matter what you say.

[pjpwnsu]

im suprised that King mentioned Machine head because I know that him and Flyn had their differences at times. If they had the big4 AND machine head that would be grand!

hope this actually turns out but i dont have high expectations

[Sanitarium91]

Shredder666 wrote:

Kerry King is an *****. The goal of this tour is to reunite the "Big Four," not reunite three of the four and throw in Machine Head. Nothing against Machine Head but Anthrax deserves to be apart of this. I'm surprised Kerry King didn't say that Metallica wasn't "metal" enough for him to perform with...

+1

[me_llamo_juan]

This would be awesome.

[Metallica1554]

This would be ****ing amazing!!!

[All0utR0ck]

I think all 4 bands should share one stage and let's say, Metallica opens with a song; when that song's over it would fade into Megadeth playing a song and then it would fade into Anthrax etc etc. It could go with that routine for hours I think and each band would have a good amount of time for a break or whatever

[j-walk]

All0utR0ck wrote:

I think all 4 bands should share one stage and let's say, Metallica opens with a song; when that song's over it would fade into Megadeth playing a song and then it would fade into Anthrax etc etc. It could go with that routine for hours I think and each band would have a good amount of time for a break or whatever

Nice. That is a great idea. it would almost be like they were having a battle.

[x7Buckethead7x]

metallica + megadeth = probably won't happen

[Rhyan_EG]

Mike90t09 wrote:

I say Metallica sucks and they will never be as good as they were, Kill em All was their only good album cause Dave Mustaine co wrote 4 songs. Megadeth is the shit because they havent changed like those Metallica Pussies

Cryptic Writings? Risk? Megadeth and Metallica both went through major changes in the 90s. To say Peace Sells is the sames as Cryptic Writings is retarded.

[Oosh.]

Holyy Jesus. Im going!

[maniac-stevo]

Machine Head > Anthrax no offence to anyone, i like anthrax but i just think Mahcine head put on a better live show.

[legato89]

I wonder how much tickets would be. Probably your first born...

[MetalUpYourRear]

JacK C wrote:

i heard from a friend who's helping putting this show together, that Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield are gonna have a guitar battle...on expert

I about shit my pants in laughter after reading that.

On topic:
This would be amazing. But the only two I really want to see are Megadeth and Anthrax. Metallica would be kinda cool to see as well. They can replace Slayer with Testament.

[HostileFTW]

Hmmm... I'm imagining 'Tallica playing Four Horsemen the a few minutes later Megadeth doing the Mechanix.

[ZeGuitarist]

Checked...

[IlikeMetal]

If this ever were to happen, I think it would be a summer tour; too many big name bands to play any venue BUT the amphitheaters or stadiums. I do like anthrax, but I would love to Machine Head or Testament on this if it ever happened.

[Altitudinous]

It would be too awesome/tense and awkward for it to work i think. How about Metallica, Municipal Waste and Warbringer. Good!

[Mike90t09]

I agree with you about Dave being a dick and that it was all his fault but musically Megadeth has had the better songs and Dave is truly gifted at what he does and hasnt stopped playing THRASH METAL!! Metallica has no more headbanging riffs, they're sailing down the tubes. Look at Slayer, they're still fast as **** just like the olden days. Metallica has changed for the worst but that would the most epic tour of any tours in the history of tours

leony03 wrote:

Mike90t09 wrote:

I say Metallica sucks and they will never be as good as they were, Kill em All was their only good album cause Dave Mustaine co wrote 4 songs. Megadeth is the shit because they havent changed like those Metallica Pussies

Erm the only remaining member of Megadeth is Dave. Metallica has all their originals apart from the bassist. To be going this long and (IMO) still make good music is excellent. In megadeth, they had different ideas for things and thats the reason they havent changed. They get new ideaas because they have new members. For this reason and others, i believe Metallica the better band. Dave mustaine is a dickhole. He said in an interview that was on here "i saw my names above James and Kirk on the list. I was like HAH!" This was about the top 100 guitar players or something.

Something along those lines. He's not a nice person but a good guitar player. Kirk and James are both nice people and can play guitar really well.

It was daves fault he got kicked out of the band. He was violent and poured beer on Ron McGovneys bass. I also read someithng about him kicking James dog but im not sure on that one. The other guys couldnt take it. Anyone would have done the same thing.

Sorry for the rant but it had to be said

[drawnacrol]

this would be epic

[korn_dawg]

I love how he puts modern Machine Head over modern Anthrax; I wasn't expecting that at all, but I definitely agree that Machine Head has been in exceptional form since they made The Blackening

[Chaosinborn]

MasterExploder0 wrote:

I dunno if I'd be willing to pay for a ticket since I only like half of those bands, but 'Tallica and Megadeth on the same tour makes me jizz.

this times a million. If there is confirmation on this i need to pull out the tissues. Althought i prefer megadeth and metallica, slayer and anthrax would be awesome too.

[Vendim]

HostileFTW wrote:

Hmmm... I'm imagining 'Tallica playing Four Horsemen the a few minutes later Megadeth doing the Mechanix.

That would be funny

[DevilsDance76]

I would give up my left arm to go see this show...please god make this possible and have them come to Toronto

[sottpwn]

A big four tour would be amazing, but I agree with King. Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Machine Head would be the best ****ing gig EVER.

[Ponyexpress]

what would be awesome is exodus, megadeth, slayer and metallica that's what i call the big four.

[Mike90t09]

Ponyexpress wrote:

what would be awesome is exodus, megadeth, slayer and metallica that's what i call the big four.

I say Exodus, Megadeth, Slayer, and Job for a Cowboy hahahaha

[Hammerzeit]

Please do this. I would Jizz buckets.

[SlipknotRule93]

That would be brilliant. I must buy a ticket.

[de-fexxx666]

I probably wouldn't go, and if I did it would only be for Slayer. I hate Metallica, Megadeth just isn't my thing, and Anthrax just plain sucks without Joey Belladonna.

[SlipknotRule93]

Sorry for double post but...

if Machine Head have to be included in the tour then I would sub out Megadeth. They're the only one of the "Big Four" I don't like.

[Eddie4President]

SlipknotRule93 wrote:

Sorry for double post but...

if Machine Head have to be included in the tour then I would sub out Megadeth. They're the only one of the "Big Four" I don't like.

Yeah well, your username says you like Slipknot, so I doubt your opinion really matters here.

It needs to be Big 4. . . not big three with Machine Head. I love Machine Head and all, but it needs to be Big 4.

[Ridder Lugtepik]

the four horsemen, wow.

[Megadeth Mani4c]

I agree that this would be awesome, but the only band id really want to see is Megadeth. I know i sound like a fanboy or something but as much as i like the other bands, this concert would cost way too much for it to be worth it

[silent caution]

KingSquall802 wrote:

If this is true, this is the BOMB!
I wonder if Dave M will allow himself to share stage with Metallica?

Of course Metallica is easily the best of the four. No matter what you say.

YES!! i dont like dave cause of his high pitched dio wanna be singing style

[peachygnr]

that would be some badass stuff.

[ibrahimasood]

That would be amazing!

But like i can see loads of fights going on.

Dave doesnt like Kirk and Kerry King,
and yeah Kerry King doesnt like Metallica and Dave Mustine.
Anthrax will be the only no hated band there lol.

Id defo go see em!

[metal4ever6328]

+testament, exodus, overkill

[Nirvanarien]

A tour like that would be awesome and a must to see for any Thrash Metal loving Metalhead! Tho Holland is a smale place which is likely to be forgotten and even if they don't it will probably cost more than a Festival like Wacken!

[MetallicRob2112]

FINALLY THE TOUR OF THE CENTURY!!!!!

[ChasenPipo]

Let's face it, I couldn't come up with a more epic line-up consisting of 4 bands...

I mean my 4 favourite bands are propably Metallia/Megadeth/Lamb of God/Machine Head, but still, it's the Big Four! This is what everybody's been waiting since the late 80's!

[j-walk]

MetallicRob2112 wrote:

FINALLY THE TOUR OF THE CENTURY!!!!!

Its not even remotely confirmed. Kerry heard that lars said. thats so stupiud.

[thunderbritches]

I there would be too much tension for it too happen, and no one would be satisfied with their stage time. For it to work it'd have to be at least a 4 hour show and most people would be so tired by the last part of the show that it wouldn't even be fun. Good idea? Yes Practical? No. On the Big 4 and who belongs who doesn't. It's Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax, they were THE thrash bands in the 80's and whether or not you like what they do now, look back to when they started and then say if they belong to be in on the list. It deserves to be more of reunion tour than in regards to what's going on now, cus imo what they all have going now is nothing compared to alot of other bands. /rant

[Paradox5]

ibrahimasood wrote:

That would be amazing!

But like i can see loads of fights going on.

Dave doesnt like Kirk and Kerry King,
and yeah Kerry King doesnt like Metallica and Dave Mustine.
Anthrax will be the only no hated band there lol.

Id defo go see em!

Dave doens't hate kirk, he just dislikes Lars, he has no problem for Kirk because he understood that someone had to fill him in.

That's nice and all, but WHERE IS JOB FOR A COWBOY?!!?112@!?one!!

[josbroek]

this is gonna be friggin awesome!!!

[Zeerion]

OH SHIT XD

[Zep_shizzle]

this would be awesome.

[DLRocks13]

OMFG if they don't come to minneapolis minnesota, every metal head in the state will quit listening to them. Amazing Lineup. I would sell anything i could to see this show

[rionscyon]

i'd rather have testament there.. or even exodus... but if this were to come true... it would be the apocolapse

[Oroborous]

HOLY SHIT! Take out Anthrax and throw in Machine Head and that is my DREAM tour!

[MetalUpYourRear]

silent caution wrote:

KingSquall802 wrote:

If this is true, this is the BOMB!
I wonder if Dave M will allow himself to share stage with Metallica?

Of course Metallica is easily the best of the four. No matter what you say.

YES!! i dont like dave cause of his high pitched dio wanna be singing style

What??? Dave sings NOTHING LIKE DIO! It's a completely different sub-genre you idiot! Dave has a thrashy "snarl" voice, while Dio has a powerful operatic voice.

How could you seriously even connect the two???

[j-walk]

No dude, pantera instead of machine head.

[MetalUpYourRear]

Paradox5 wrote:

ibrahimasood wrote:

That would be amazing!

But like i can see loads of fights going on.

Dave doesnt like Kirk and Kerry King,
and yeah Kerry King doesnt like Metallica and Dave Mustine.
Anthrax will be the only no hated band there lol.

Id defo go see em!

Dave doens't hate kirk, he just dislikes Lars, he has no problem for Kirk because he understood that someone had to fill him in.

That's nice and all, but WHERE IS JOB FOR A COWBOY?!!?112@!?one!!

JFAC is not worthy of being anywhere near these bands. I'm still pissed that Dave made me suffer through them at the last Gigantour...

[z4twenny]

it would be the most awesome thing since the dawn of time. more epic than the creation of the universe.

[Shaharz]

OMG OMG OMG OMG
I guess dreams CAN come true

[b.c. warlock926]

Holy Shit!!! this is what ive been dreaming of. I cant believe this is happening again

[fallofthesystem]

MEGADETH FTW!!!!!

[mightmuffin]

I would cream my pants!

[templar08]

Clearly Mr King didn't see Anthrax at Sonisphere...

[|69|]

TESTAMENT!!!

[j-walk]

wait, I got it. Sepultura.

[soulxstlr]

Greatest. Tour. Ever.

[Arbity]

MEGADETH WOULD TOTALLY OWN ALL THE OTHER BANDS.

[Zedf05t]

Metallica supported by machine head, lamb of god and iron maiden would be my ideal gig

[Haunt3dAng3l]

Personally, I can't see it happening. Plus, nobody really cares about Anthrax anymore.

[SlashKirkSynG]

AAAAH!!!!
THIS WOULD BE THE BEST TOUR EVEEEER!

hope it happens.

[aznrockerdude]

Testament should tour with them.

[Eddie4President]

Zedf05t wrote:

Metallica supported by machine head, lamb of god and iron maiden would be my ideal gig

Iron Maiden is 10000 times as good as Metallica, and I would hope that even a Metallica fan would know that.

[nightraven]

checked

[ST Thrash]

If not anthrax what about EXODUS or TESTAMENT. Make it a thrash tour. Or add Overkill, not ****in machine head.

[madmitch411]

this would be the sickest tour ever!
Thrash Till Death!

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

There's better options than ANTHRAX and that's nothing against Anthrax, but they've just been in pieces for quite some time and that doesn't make as much sense to me."

100 percent agree.

[thedarkblues06]

soulxstlr wrote:

Greatest. Tour. Ever.

Quoted.

[jaypalthrasher]

This would be ****ing sick. But I have to agree w/King, Machine Head would be a better choice than Anthrax.

[dravensvision]

I understand why Kerry said that and I respect him as much as anyone in metal, but I think Anthrax would still be a way bigger draw than Machine Head.

[ffaf_kick_ass]

oh my god oh my god oh my god

[FearOfTheDuck]

Oh my god, that would be immense! I think the world will crack from the sheer awsomeness if this tour happened! Anthrax should definatly be included, if they can settle down with a singer. If not Testament are the best other option!

I've seen all of the bands apart from Anthrax, and Metallica have had the best atmosphere and connection with the audience. Followed by Slayer then Megadeth.

[shadesofanger]

Why not do it festival style.

Machine Head
Exodus
Testament
Lamb of God
Anthrax
Slayer
Megadeth
Metallica

[B-Hart]

I don't know about this, I don't think Dave and Lars would get along too well. There'd be a lot of things said, and in the end, it would make Dave look like an *******, which isn't true.

[flame843]

i don't even like slayer and anthrax, and i'd LOVE to see this show.

[Darkworker]

BEBEB wrote:

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

same here m8... and I definetly vote for Machine Head

[TSmitty6]

tickets:

50$ back level
70$ mid level
85$ GA

id still pay it

[Maggot4lif3]

Machine head over anthrax. This would be the best ****ing tour ever!!

[AlexC15]

OH MY GOD! I WOULD DIE HAPPY IF THIS CAME TO THE U.K

[shreddedstrings]

what would even be more kickass, even though it might cause problems. guitar battle between kirk and dave

[blackthought]

If they did replace Anthrax with Machine Head, I'd gladly sell my vital organs so I could have the funds to go see it.

[jimmyled]

That sounds awesome.

[Flariduh]

I hate all those bands...

[dec666]

Why Cant They Just Do The Big 5!!!

[David_Bowie=GOD]

BEBEB wrote:

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

+1

[This Is Fun]

I've never been more disappointed by a band live, than Machine Head.

[/Tim\]

now this is orgasmic

[slashrock94]

If this comes within 500 miles of me, I'm there.

[ThatWouldBeJon]

maidenfan15 wrote:

Slayer and Anthrax are "meh" for me. But I would LOVE to see Metallica and Megadeth share a stage.

+1000

[i_am_metalhead]

King does have a good point. Although Anthrax has some amazing music, as of the past few years the band has been pretty chaotic - original members coming back and leaving, new members coming in, etc.

I would love to see Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer no matter who the fourth band would happen to be.

[rugbyrulzzz]

dec666 wrote:

Why Cant They Just Do The Big 5!!!

who`s number 5??

[Skillet_Panhead]

I say skip Anthrax and bring TESTAMENT

[King Zirconium]

Anthrax? Machine Head? My vote goes to Exodus.

[element4433]

Checked.

[ShredGod George]

herman ri2 wrote:

IMHO, I prefer Machine head over Anthrax but tbh, I rather see Anthrax int his because it wouldn't feel right to me. Machine Head isn't part of the Thrash Four and never will be. the only way this can be right is if the ORIGINAL thrash four were in it together.

the Original big four was Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer & Exodus,
Testament or Exodus would be better than anthrax

[mr_metal121]

Skillet_Panhead wrote:

I say skip Anthrax and bring TESTAMENT

yes, testament deserve to be in that four instead of anthrax IMO they're just getting heavier these days and keeping it modern they definetly deserve a spot in the line up

[Its So Easy]

This would be awesome

[Thumper!]

Hearing stuff like this makes me so happy.
Rock has been dead for awhile now and was recently brought back to life in the past year. If this tour does happen....lets just say rock music will be officially ressurected.

I never thought I'd say this but....THANK YOU LARS!

[Cejis33]

metallica and megadeth?!? holy shit does this mean slash and axl will finally reunite?

[bassthunder]

Mike90t09 wrote:

Dave is truly gifted at what he does and hasnt stopped playing THRASH METAL!!

Ever hear of the 90's?

[Galvatron]

Anthrax had some good tunes but they dont have any great must have albums.If this tour was to take place with out them I would not think it was a big deal.

[rickyj]

BlameTheMachine wrote:

oneblackened wrote:

God, I'd give my left nut to see that show.

Your left? Why not your right?

lol yea id give up the right over the left. the right one technically doesnt really do nuthin but hang around

[fm20000]

pearlJam_31490 wrote:

Since when is Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer the big four? And i seriously doubt this tour would happen. I dont really like slayer and anthrax that much anyway.

Since ALWAYS. Where the hell have you been? And Mustaine is over EVERYTHING with Metallica. He doesn't care anymore. Im sure if Lars approached him about this he would say yes.

[kurtebirdi]

big four of thrash all touring together is an awesome idea

[Shreddinator666]

Haunt3dAng3l wrote:

Personally, I can't see it happening. Plus, nobody really cares about Anthrax anymore.

Dude, what are you talking about? I love Anthrax! But I agree with you, I don't think it will happen. However if it did they better play near NJ!

If they didn't play in the states I would hijack a plane to go see them and rob a bank to pay for the ridiculously overpaid tickets.

And Metallica would have to play their old stuff.

[SoftParade1967]

HOLY SHIT THIS WOULD BE AMAZING!!

[Creep_C-1]

slayer sucks, when i saw them at mayhem fest it sounded like they played one long 50 min song... just a buncha noise

[Jondy]

Words absolutely fail me.

[MetalMusicianAl]

oh god i hope this happens.

[moonchild9]

Sounds as real as a fairy tale..... No way all these guys are going to tour together because all I see is old tensions bubbling. Just thinking about Mustaine sharing the stage with Metallica makes me a little creeped out. However, if this were to materialize it would probably be an monumental moment in thrash history. Just thinking: instead of making this a tour with just the Big Four, how about turn into an amazing, memorable thrash festival! Get Exodus, Testament, Sepultura, and screw Machine head. (sorry, shadesofanger I didn't notice you mentioned the festival idea before me. Just noticed that when I finshed. Sorry!)

[livewire76]

As much as i'd like to see this happen, i dunno.. Don't get me wrong it'd be an amazing gig, one to tell the grand children, i just think there might be one or two too many ego's in the way. If Lars is organizing it then it's obvious where Metallica will play. Actually, knowing Lars, even if it wasn't him that got it together he'd demand to headline which kinda makes my point - how will the others work it out? Have they all mellowed enough not to let stuff like where on the bill you are bother them? Then there's the cost - tickets are gonna be a fortune. And they know people will pay jacking up the price even more. At least the promoters will look to make as much as they can.. The demand worldwide would be gigantic. It's a tour that could go on for years!

I know i've been very skeptical/pessimistic but i would love to see this happen, as would any metal fan. Except this guy:

Flariduh wrote:

I hate all those bands...

What a d'ck. Who reads about bands they hate? Only d'cks do.

[Blas3]

prices would be up in the sky, but I wouldn't care a bit... just gooooo!!!

[the starchild]

Just saw Slayer live and I've got
to say...WORST band I've ever seen. It was the biggest joke and apparently I missed the punch line. I was in pure pain and agony for a good hour and a half. I honestly didn't know a band could get away with playing the same song 10 times and never change a guitar solo, and get away with it. As for Metallica, Megadeath, and Anthrax...replace anthrax with Machine head...and leave out slayer alltogether and it would be a good show

[kud666]

KnotParkDay wrote:

Sorry, but I don't see Mustaine agreeing to tour with Tallica. And why not get Anthrax AND Machine Head on the tour?

why not, MH have supported tallica on several occasions.

but like most of you i agree, it has to be the big 4 or nothing and last time i checked MH were not apart of the big 4. if dime was alive kerry would of wanted pantera/damageplan on there instead of anthrax

[Eternium]

the starchild wrote:

Just saw Slayer live and I've got
to say...WORST band I've ever seen. It was the biggest joke and apparently I missed the punch line. I was in pure pain and agony for a good hour and a half. I honestly didn't know a band could get away with playing the same song 10 times and never change a guitar solo, and get away with it. As for Metallica, Megadeath, and Anthrax...replace anthrax with Machine head...and leave out slayer alltogether and it would be a good show

When you spell Megadeth as MegaDEATH, your opinion has no validation to me.
I could see this happening, but also with very, very expensive tickets.. which could keep me from going.

[MetFan10]

I think I just got a boner.

[heretic555666]

This really would be history in the making!!
I bet the gigs will be insane!
Should be called The Four Horsemen Tour!

[lionslicer9999]

I jizzed my pants when I read the title of this

[WiZoRZ]

megadeth + metallica on the same stage ... we'd need a miracle! id like this so baddd

[xmegadeth43x]

If they do this tour anthrax has to bring back joey, **** that john bush douche bag or who ever they have man Megadeth slayer anthrax and metallica on one tour they have to come to FUCKING CALIFORNIA!!!

[Mutant Corn]

I don't care how long I have to drive, I'm seeing this.

[Razgriz_101]

all i can say is please come to Scotland and play Hampden you would sell that place out in a heartbeat.

[Diablini]

Holy Shit! I hope they come here!

[FretboardToAsh]

I can't imagine metallica settling for opening even once in the entire tour.

[henrihell]

If they do this tour and play in Finland, I'm definitely gonna see it! Fuckin' four amazing bands on one ****in' stage! :O

[Pus_Head]

Slayer - Death
Metallica - Conquest
MEGADETH - War
Anthrax - Famine

[IbanezKorn]

Oh. My. God. If this is real I HAVE to go.

[metalonastrat]

if this happens it's coming to cyprus as well. so it's not going to happen.

[tehriverdragon]

Almost all of these guys have been at each others throats at one point in time...but if it happened I wouldn't mind going to see it...the first metal I listened to was the big 4 and Iron Maiden

[zarreph]

The tickets would be 2 or 300 bucks, but with all four of those bands playing the concerts would need to be at least 5 or 6 hours long! This sounds like Cruefest, but metal-ified. Which is to say, AWESOME! Wish I could get the money together to go...

[mattallica013]

DUDE!!! hell froze over! please come ta the ohio kentucky indiana are i'll pay any ticket price!

[Dethrokk]

i wish that they'd come to the ND MN region, dave mustaine is an unbelievably talented music writer. i'd ive both my nuts and my cock to go to that show.

[Vedicardi]

anthrax bashing was a bit funny but as soon as they do get together so to speak I hope they become a more viable option

[NCHEoin]

i thought iron maiden was part of the big 4?

[McNuttynz]

i definitely would vote anthrax over machine head...
if this tour comes together then should come 2 NZ...

[ktulu51]

Screw Kerry King for bashing Anthrax. Im a much bigger fan of Anthrax than Slayer. Leave Slayer out of it and bring Machine Head or Bodom or someone instead of them.

[nightraven]

checkedd

[<Paper Cuts>]

I thought there was a huge conflict between Metallica and Megadeth?
Oh well....would love to see all these bands

[josep94]

it would be so ****ing cool to see the big 4... even though ANTHRAX has been very ****ed up lately

[jimishred]

if this happens i am So Going this will be the tour of the decade for sure!! also if MH and testament had fill spots that would bad ass. Kerry,dave and Lars PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE STOP BULLS**TING and do the F**KING TOUR!!!

[Batvanvaiych]

Shredder666 wrote:

Kerry King is an *****. The goal of this tour is to reunite the "Big Four," not reunite three of the four and throw in Machine Head. Nothing against Machine Head but Anthrax deserves to be apart of this. I'm surprised Kerry King didn't say that Metallica wasn't "metal" enough for him to perform with...

i completely agree dude, i also like to note how he said Megadeth was touring with "them" not give credit where credit is due and say they were touring together. King is just a tool.

[maximumrocker]

OMG
this would be the greatest tour ever
i would get tix the first second they came out

[misfit_lover]

shreducator wrote:

The apocalypse is coming.

i hope it coming to argentina too

[the agony scene]

the big four tour
it names itself they need to do this

[SteveHarris=God]

Fuck Machine Head and put in Exodus

[blasphemus666]

f*ck metallica. switch them out with machine head

[blasphemus666]

SteveHarris=God wrote:

Fuck Machine Head and put in Exodus

switch anthrax with exodus too

[MrSir4]

This MAY just be the first thing Lars Ulrich has done that I would be thankful for....if it happens that is..

[MESAexplorer]

It would be an awesome show, I just couldn't see it happening.
1. It's a load of big bands, and the tickets would be through the roof.
2. The show would last at least 6 hours.
3. Kerry king talks too much shit to share the stage with Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax. We all know his opinions on everyone but Slayer. Then there was the whole Dave Mustaine fallout with Metallica, possibly a little awkward for him even if they made up.

The festival style show, with many more bands would work well. Especially if Dream Theater, Tool, Meshuggah, and Lamb of God were playing as well.

[Menza_]

In all reality it should be, Megadeth, Testament, Annihilator, and Exodus

[Skuzzmo]

HelpTravesty wrote:

I'm there, regardless of what I have to do.

X2

[metalhead_c-1]

um, am i alive right now! this is the best new ever. I MUST get tickets when they are available!

[XxIRON_MAIDENxX]

Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax and Testament that would be orgasmic

[I am an idiot]

Megadeth,Metallica,Pantera,Slayer -Big Four.

[deisegirl]

Korzack wrote:

"The Big 4 tour: Bringing calm & harmony to monkeys across the world"

Class comment! Nearly died laughing at that lol

[meow1992]

i'd give my left and right nut and the foreskin off my dick to see that show

[PcaKes]

Vicryl 2.0 wrote:

F*ck Machine Head!....dont get me wrong, i love Machine Head but i love Anthrax even more.

Yeah this.

This is a dream tour. If this actually happens, I AM going to a show. Even if it's a one nighter in Japan.

[goneshootin]

i'm guessing this tour would take place in 2012 ...it would make sense

[WesBizarre]

what if Dave Mustaine plays a song with Metaliica?
like one of there old songs from back when he was in the band
how bad ass would that be?

[bloodbath519]

the starchild wrote:

Just saw Slayer live and I've got
to say...WORST band I've ever seen. It was the biggest joke and apparently I missed the punch line. I was in pure pain and agony for a good hour and a half. I honestly didn't know a band could get away with playing the same song 10 times and never change a guitar solo, and get away with it. As for Metallica, Megadeath, and Anthrax...replace anthrax with Machine head...and leave out slayer alltogether and it would be a good show

You went to a Slayer show to watch the band? LMAO. Grow some balls and jump in the pit, thats what a slayer show is all about.....WIMP.

[edgeyyz]

I agree, no Anthrax, they aren't as good as the other three IMO. I think Mustaine should play lead on a Metallica song for sh*ts and giggles. That would be awesome. For once, kudos to Lars.

[mr. ...]

THE METALOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN

[netgrade]

If this got anywhere near here i would go, but i know it wont.

[Theeman0000]

Some thoughts-

-Testament would be better then an Anthrax without Belladonna.
-This is ****ing awesome.
-Dave Mustaine would shred the **** out of those guys.
-Kerry King tells it like it is, and I respect that.

[Raven_Flight]

Oh god, I would travell to... I don't know, anywhere to see that.

[true_bacon22]

You're all cracked, Machine Head blow, we don't need any watered-down groove garbage sullying the big four of thrash... Given Slayer and Anthrax don't play their watered-down groove era garbage.

[UsedGuitar92]

OMFG.....*head explodes*

[kissownsrush]

PLOP wrote:

Oh man!!!!! That sounds badass! Don't get me wrong-I love Machine Head, but I think it should be the Big Four +Testament

Agreed

[Lemoninfluence]

checked

[Sublimedude777]

Yeah screw Machine Head! I'd much rather see Exodus. Considering their new album is coming out soon, it would just make sense. It should be all 5 bands, because Exodus is truly in the Big 4. Or, now it's a Big 5 I guess.

[RyanMetalMatthe]

blasphemus666 wrote:

f*ck metallica. switch them out with machine head

Uh... hello? BIG FOUR. Are you retarded? The Big Four is the Big Four, you can't swap out different bands.

[Chrisiphone]

Needz moar Slash.

They'd have to try and get over the "gimick" of Megadave and Hammet/Hetfield sharing the stage.

[Slash 555]

This would be ****ing awesome. However after those 4 bands in a row i wouldn't be able to move without pain the next day from mosh pits, headbanging, and alike.

[RyanMetalMatthe]

NCHEoin wrote:

i thought iron maiden was part of the big 4?

Iron Maiden is NWOBHM.

[Pannenkoeken]

Fuck it, I'd rode trip from the southern US to Canada to see this.

[RyanMetalMatthe]

WesBizarre wrote:

what if Dave Mustaine plays a song with Metaliica?
like one of there old songs from back when he was in the band
how bad ass would that be?

It would be the coolest thing ever. And they should make Kirk wait outside.

[MetalHead!!]

Why not Exodus or Testament instead of Anthrax?

[Droid11]

Seriously slayer blows. and anthrax, wtf.

If anything it should be just Megadeth and Metallica. The two big dogs. Slayer and Anthrax aren't even on the same level as Mega and tallica.

Megadeth isn't even on the same level as Metallica. Sry to say that but that's just the way it is. Tallica is just wayyyyy bigger than the rest.

[RyanMetalMatthe]

Droid11 wrote:

Seriously slayer blows. and anthrax, wtf.

If anything it should be just Megadeth and Metallica. The two big dogs. Slayer and Anthrax aren't even on the same level as Mega and tallica.

Megadeth isn't even on the same level as Metallica. Sry to say that but that's just the way it is. Tallica is just wayyyyy bigger than the rest.

I agree. Leave out the other two and just make it the two great metal bands ever. I'd HATE to have to sit through Slayer and Anthrax to get to my bands. I saw The Offspring a few months ago and I had to suffer through 5 lame emo bands, which made no sense because The Offspring have nothing to do with emo.

[the_burning_one]

Cafas wrote:

My original comment aside, comments about the tour 'not being the same' if different bands were included are funny to me. Chances are no one here as any connection whatsoever to the scene, or what it is (including me), so the only 'integrity' in the lineup is what's been read in magazines. Which is also why people jizz over these bands and ignore Sodom and Kreator. Testament could have very well be one of the 'big four'.

you should not assume that everyone on this thread jizzes over the big four, when i personally like sodom and testament more than anthrax and most megadeth. think about what you say before you sey it.

[broly_the_best6]

How cool is that!!! :P

[Metalligirl]

Dammit, that would be what I call a ****ing lineup, just...wow. I hope this happens

[G0dzilla]

i want to see a guitar battle between dave mustaine and kirk hammett. XD. and this tour would be epic (and expensive.. lol)

[FinderofNemo]

Id prefer testament over anthrax but this is a sweet deal, even if Im not big fans of any of these bands.

[XxTopCatxX]

Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Testament would be orgasmic.

[apelayo31]

BEBEB wrote:

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

most definitely.

[Necrotise]

F*** Machine Head, no offence to them i like some of thier stuff, but the Big Four of thrash aint the Big Four of thrash without Anthrax, no matter how 'in pieces' they are. Machine Head could barely be called thrash, especially thier earlier stuff - Anthrax pretty much invented thrash.

[heartagram1128]

jesous ****ing christ ....metallica megadeth SLAYER and anthrax...holy ball sack that would be a ****ing awsome concert ....but the ticket would be like expensive as hell

[Lion_Slicer]

I think Anthrax belongs on this tour, but I also think that Machine Head is at least 10x better, at least nowadays. Testament should be included too, they were around in the 80s too, so why can't there be a Big Five?

[t.ev]

i came.

[ridinglightning]

That would be cool.

[fives+sevens]

who would headline that?!
they'd have to have rock, paper, scissors tournaments before they hit the stage.

[carlos1536]

ya there shuld b more thrash bands! but this is the big 4 of thrash! i mean it wont b the big 4 of thrash without 1 of them. tho atleast there shuld b opening acts like testament, exodus, machine head, and other good thrash bands.

[DANZIG767]

kerry king can kiss my ass, Anthrax is part of THE BIG FOUR, not Machine Head

[jimoc1964]

Let me add my bit, "The Big Four" name comes from the 1986 - 87 era of Thrash Metal; Metallica - Master of Puppets, Megadeth - Peace Sells, Anthrax - Among the Living, and Slayer - Reign in Blood. The best Albumns by the biggest Thrash bands of the day. Testament also had a good bit of noteriety and Exodus would be the next in line but MachineHead were nowhere to be found, therefore cannot be included in this conversation. What the f was Kerry thinking? You might like MachineHead better than any of these other bands but in the context of the "Big Four", they dont exist! This being said where do I get my Tix.

[jordan93]

oneblackened :
God, I'd give my left nut to see that show.

ture that

[JDSiebert]

I would poop myself...

[98Timberwolf]

I'd love to see it. But IF it happens, I would almost certainly not be able to go. No one I know even likes/knows about any of those bands except Metallica. I prefer Metallica out of the big four, but I love the others as well.

[DaGuitarMasta01]

This tour would suck epically bad metallica megadeth slayer..... And I would not even be close to being able afford the ticket

[thrasherdude09]

hmmm even though i would prefer testament or exodus over anthrax since its the big four tour but we cant all expect it to be a complete thrash metal tour , they said theyd only began to plan the tour so i guess we're all quite curious to see how this can unfold espically with the metallica/megadeth feud over the years

[Chewy120]

the big four co-headline with maiden. now thats something i would sell my soul for

[kopaczkiller]

shadesofanger wrote:

Why not do it festival style.

Machine Head
Exodus
Testament
Lamb of God
Anthrax
Slayer
Megadeth
Metallica

You take out LOG and Machine Head, sub in kreator and overkill and make a festival of 80s thrash, and i would kill my whole family for a ticket

[Phil Collins]

Puting Mustaine, Ulrich and King in the same play ground is just a bad idea.

[slayerfanz]

All the homos that said they only like Metallica and Megadeth should be removed from this board and placed under suspicion of being gay.

[Bonestripper666]

if this is true
i'm give my left nut for a ticket!

[sg_man08]

this would be nothing new
all of the big three German thrash bands have toured together

[DeadWhisper]

if i can not see this i will cry for a week straight....

[ShestShestShest]

They need to kick metallica off the bill.
Resurrect Paul Baloff.
and get back Joey Belladonna.
and have
Megadeth
Anthrax
Slayer
Kreator
Testament
Exodus

Destruction
Overkill
Warbringer
Mantic Ritual
My band

[carlos1536]

ShestShestShest wrote:

They need to kick metallica off the bill.
Resurrect Paul Baloff.
and get back Joey Belladonna.
and have
Megadeth
Anthrax
Slayer
Kreator
Testament
Exodus


Destruction
Overkill
Warbringer
Mantic Ritual
My band

pfft! good 1! even tho metallica rnt tht good anymore and r a bunch of sell outs they still were 1 of the big 4 thrash bands. mabye they'll turn back into thrash if we're lucky!

[eetfuk01]

if this concert goes the the world might implode from the awesomeness

[Viking_Swede666]

can somebody say "$400 tickets"? hahaha

[Xx_banx]

slamm

[Gibshall]

this would be insane

[metalgirl0]

THAT WOULD BE SO EPIC!!! I always dreamed of seeing something this epic, *hopes it'll be true, and the tour stops by Montreal*

[carlos1536]

Droid11 wrote:

Seriously slayer blows. and anthrax, wtf.

If anything it should be just Megadeth and Metallica. The two big dogs. Slayer and Anthrax aren't even on the same level as Mega and tallica.

Megadeth isn't even on the same level as Metallica. Sry to say that but that's just the way it is. Tallica is just wayyyyy bigger than the rest.

pfft! metallica may b more famous and make more money, but tht doesnt mean their better i mean megadeth is way better! tho i agree with u on the rest. megadeth and metallica r on the same level compared 2 the other 2.

[MetalMike676]

Ah Dear sweet lord THATS'S AWESOME!!!

There better be a St. Louis Date

[Shazazmic]

Once again. Rumor's that will probably never happen just seem to find their way to the UG front page...

Excellent marketing ploy for hits, though.

[FooCards]

Best thing about this article was the words Alice in Chains

[spug2guitarist]

YEAH BIG FOUR!

but no machine head please

[SlyDevil13]

I would prefer Testament over Anthrax

[scawti]

Replace Anthrax with Testament and you'd have the ultimate concert.

[darkmexican92]

I vote Testament.... thanks

[namegoeshere]

I am complete! but seriously no machine head keep it big four...Or switch anthrax with testament.

[izzizz]

i hope this would happen

[Vicryl 2.0]

hmmm I wonder if Scott Ian could invite the others to play Bring the Noise... pretty awkward to watch but damn that would be a party!

[Papa_meno25]

I JUST CAME READING THIS

[jasterofpuppets]

wow that would be so sick they should add testament or evile or maybe even nevermore or maybe trivium! [I kid about the last] but really Mega and Metallica maybe dave can screw kirks wife

[Paramecium302]

yeah, subtract Anthrax and add Testament. No offense, Anthrax is a little too...I dunno, anyone else think they seem like hair metal?

[Grudgeshredder]

Holy **** balls... I think I just died

[JonoElMuffinMan]

Oh shit.

[jasterofpuppets]

I think Dream Theater and Tool should do something like this only with prog even though they are on the opposite sides of the prog spectrum

[Metal Onslaught]

I juest jizzed in my pants.

also get rid of anthrax, bring testament: they are gods!

[Levi79]

LOL, I heard King and Flynn had shit with eachother that they patched up during the Canadian Carnage tour (which was totally sick!) This would be like a ****ing dream tour!!!!!

[j-mac71]

hooooolllllyyyyy

or mabe not holy, but anyways

hooooolllllyyyyy
sick bands, although i don't think that dave mustaine would get along incredibly well with kerry king or metallica...

[ThEcOnQuIsTaDoR]

i absolutely love the idea of this tour w/ anthrax!!! but if they have to replace anthrax with someone, it should be ovekill.

[zAg1619]

Man, I have been dreaming about this since I ever got into metal years and years ago. Love Machine Head and all, but if there is a Big Four concert, leave it to the Big Four. Anthrax opens, Slayer follow, then Megadeth, then Metallica, with Dave coming out for a few songs. That would be ****ing sweet.

[shaggydogJV]

i vote they take Metallica off the bill and bring in Machinehead. Id go then.

[BCWarlockRICH]

i like all of these bands but i mean dave mustaine and metallica hate eachother. Kerry King and James Hetfeild hate eachother. The new alice in chains singer is a good singer but i mean christ no one can replace staley... its blasphemy to call them alice in chains still...

[j-mac71]

also testament lamb of god and machine head can come along. and children of bodom. and black sabbath w/ozzy, and iron maiden. and devil driver. and judas priest, and slipknot, and motorhead.

that would make for one spectacular concert if everyone plays their entire repetoire + covers of all the other bands playing with them.

lol i can dream

[j-mac71]

zAg1619 wrote:

Man, I have been dreaming about this since I ever got into metal years and years ago. Love Machine Head and all, but if there is a Big Four concert, leave it to the Big Four. Anthrax opens, Slayer follow, then Megadeth, then Metallica, with Dave coming out for a few songs. That would be ****ing sweet.

dude megadeth would close. metallica is losing it bad.. ever watched some kind of monster??

[TheLeagacy543]

OMG I would kill to see this and I think if they add Machine Head it would just make the show even better cuz they're great but they should also have bands like Testament and Exodus they are just as good

[cjdabest]

HOLY SH*T! The Big Four Thrash bands that named Thrash for what it is! This will most likely be one the most EPIC tours of all time!

[metallica2354]

Well.... Kerry King just ruined any chance of the big four getting together by dissing anthrax so don't get your hopes up...

[Nor'Easterbass]

+100000 on kerry's call: machine head would be sick to see with those 3. no offense to anthrax.

[metallica2354]

j-mac71 wrote:

zAg1619 wrote:

Man, I have been dreaming about this since I ever got into metal years and years ago. Love Machine Head and all, but if there is a Big Four concert, leave it to the Big Four. Anthrax opens, Slayer follow, then Megadeth, then Metallica, with Dave coming out for a few songs. That would be ****ing sweet.

dude megadeth would close. metallica is losing it bad.. ever watched some kind of monster??

Some kind of monster was what 6, 7 years ago?? Are you in the same situation as you were 6 or 7 years ago?

[joshua029]

metallica doesn't need to tour with those crap for bands...

metallica and trivium is what i wanna witness...

[vilches3]

It should be like an ozzfest type thing.....the Big four at the Main stage and at the second stage, put Exodus and Testament as the main acts and some smaller thrash bands.....or put the Big four and have a band like Lamb of God or Machine head open at the main stage.....point is, i think it should be like a big metal fest that includes more than the big four and machine head. What about Exodus, Kreator, Overkill, Testament and nuclear assault?.....hell maybe even toss some Warbringer and Annihilator in there too.....The thrash gods should form the first festival to cast only REAL metal unlike ozzfest. Sorry if everything i wrote came out slurred lol.

[KingSquall802]

Droid11 wrote:

Seriously slayer blows. and anthrax, wtf.

If anything it should be just Megadeth and Metallica. The two big dogs. Slayer and Anthrax aren't even on the same level as Mega and tallica.

Megadeth isn't even on the same level as Metallica. Sry to say that but that's just the way it is. Tallica is just wayyyyy bigger than the rest.

+1000. Slayer is a big joke so is Kerry King. They are boring and too repetitive. Anthrax must reunite with Joey Belladonna for this.

i vote they take Metallica off the bill and bring in Machinehead. Id go then.

What a joke, Metallica is the best band out there and they will be headlining for sure.

[skate-fiend]

BEBEB wrote:

Pity it will cost a fortune, and come nowhere near me, sounds awesome

A fortune well spent imo.
It will likely not come near me either sadly =[

[skate-fiend]

vilches3 wrote:

It should be like an ozzfest type thing.....the Big four at the Main stage and at the second stage, put Exodus and Testament as the main acts and some smaller thrash bands.....or put the Big four and have a band like Lamb of God or Machine head open at the main stage.....point is, i think it should be like a big metal fest that includes more than the big four and machine head. What about Exodus, Kreator, Overkill, Testament and nuclear assault?.....hell maybe even toss some Warbringer and Annihilator in there too.....The thrash gods should form the first festival to cast only REAL metal unlike ozzfest. Sorry if everything i wrote came out slurred lol.

I would totally love to go to a thrash fest! \m/

[mrnbkn]

KingSquall802 wrote:

Droid11 wrote:

Seriously slayer blows. and anthrax, wtf.

If anything it should be just Megadeth and Metallica. The two big dogs. Slayer and Anthrax aren't even on the same level as Mega and tallica.

Megadeth isn't even on the same level as Metallica. Sry to say that but that's just the way it is. Tallica is just wayyyyy bigger than the rest.

+1000. Slayer is a big joke so is Kerry King. They are boring and too repetitive. Anthrax must reunite with Joey Belladonna for this.

i vote they take Metallica off the bill and bring in Machinehead. Id go then.

What a joke, Metallica is the best band out there and they will be headlining for sure.

wtf slayer it's just great. this "theory" tour would be like the BIG 4 of thrash, and they are four, not just metallica. this proves you don't know anything. slayer ROCKS and anthrax it's cool too. machine head.. i'm not sure, it isn't pure thrash metal. i would accept metallica only if they play thrash classics

[doofus41]

how awesome would it be if dave played jump in the fire or ride the lightning with metallica or if james played the mechanix with megadeth

[iceh88]

shadesofanger wrote:

Why not do it festival style.

Machine Head
Exodus
Testament
Lamb of God
Anthrax
Slayer
Megadeth
Metallica

That would be a amazing show i would pay like $200 for a ticket to that.

[queenslander47]

skate-fiend wrote:

vilches3 wrote:

It should be like an ozzfest type thing.....the Big four at the Main stage and at the second stage, put Exodus and Testament as the main acts and some smaller thrash bands.....or put the Big four and have a band like Lamb of God or Machine head open at the main stage.....point is, i think it should be like a big metal fest that includes more than the big four and machine head. What about Exodus, Kreator, Overkill, Testament and nuclear assault?.....hell maybe even toss some Warbringer and Annihilator in there too.....The thrash gods should form the first festival to cast only REAL metal unlike ozzfest. Sorry if everything i wrote came out slurred lol.

I would totally love to go to a thrash fest! \m/

**** yeh. thats a terrific idea

[GoToSleep]

Anthrax is real irrelevant atm. Pantera or Machine Head would fit in nicely but yeah...

[Zugunruhe]

jesus mary mother of fuck thats a lot of comments!

thats all i came here to say.

[HammettFTW]

oneblackened wrote:

God, I'd give my left nut to see that show.

good, cos thats what you'll be paying

it would be awesome though no doubt

[Metallica0717]

If this came to be.....I think I would die happy just knowing it happened

[visiofx]

theyre forgetting Testament

[ippystratman]

If only iron maiden were there...
still this would be a ****in epic tour, i would pay $1000 and shiv some **** 2 go 2 it nah i wouldnt go that far but **** it would be awesome!!! \m/

[DamageMachine]

First off, all you guys who are saying, take this band off and put this band on wouldn't make it a Big 4 Tour. regardless of who you think deserves it. And the lineup would go
Anthrax then Slayer then Megadeth then Metallica.
Its how people have categorized the big four for years, no matter what there doing today. If the tour would happen, that would be the most obvious and best lineup.

[RUSTDOGG666]

I think they should have Machine Head be on the tour and call it the big five or at least have machine head open for the other four.

[devilex121]

damn man..... cant wait....

[Heminator89]

I'll believe it when I see something like this happening.

[2A1124]

JacK C wrote:

i heard from a friend who's helping putting this show together, that Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield are gonna have a guitar battle...on expert

Fucking genius.

[metalifan]

It would be good as long as Dave puts the whole past with Metallica behind him and they all make up

[Jesstaa]

KnotParkDay wrote:

Sorry, but I don't see Mustaine agreeing to tour with Tallica. And why not get Anthrax AND Machine Head on the tour?

Umm, you do realise they're friends again, right?

And I've seen Machine Head once before, when I was right into them (Now I've gotten into more 80's and earlier music), and they're good live, not as good as the big 4 on one tour, but good.

Maybe they could do a short set to open, like 30 minutes or something, then they could give us a whole huge set of thrash, like what Metallica did for the Live shit Binge and Purge. And I'd love to see all 4 bands get up and do something, never been a fan of that, but it could be interesting with the big 4 up there.

Also, it kinda seems like Kerry is sucking up to MH a little, I know a couple of years back Rob Flynn was abusing the hell out of King, idk, probably all good now, but it just seems a little weird to me.

I reckon if Metallica could go back in their lives by 20 years, and then come on this tour, it'd be brilliant.

[starfire666]

Well, let' see:
1. ANTHRAX got IMO into the "Big Four" completely by accident and their status nowadays is quite disputable
2. METALLICA didn't make a great record in about 18 years
3. SLAYER still got it, but it's more of the same thing each time
4. MEGADETH is the only band from this bunch that really deserves recognition and praise for their music.
So what good would this tour do anyway?!

[KingSquall802]

OK, quit whining about who's gonna replace one or the other.

First of all, this is not yet confirmed, its just a rumor.

Second, Megadeth has conflicts w/ Metallica and Slayer, Lars and King. and both Slayer and Megadeth doesnt like Metallica. So how could it be possible?

Third, Anthrax doesnt have a lead singer, who's gonna sing for them? John Bush?

Fourth, Machine Head is a questionable thrash metal band, they are more like groove metal. So they shouldnt be in a thrash metal event.

Last, if this is true. Just leave it to Big 4, no matter how bad they are. Just leave it as it is. Thats the event.

[Symmetry4321]

Rather than choosing between Anthrax and Machine Head, have machine Head being the openers witht eh 'Big 4 and quad headliners', that way everyone is in there.

[thehandthatfeed]

man u guys suck who say anthrax over machine head
i mean machine head has made a f*cking good album 2007 maybe one of the best of all times and what about anthrax

[bigredmudcrab]

I can't see it happening. Lots of ego's all on one stage. who headlines, who gets the cash. Lars is a little bitch when it comes to band politics and if he's running the show, it aint eva gunna happenin!!!

[Lacebad]

pah! big four of thrash me bollox! it should read something like : exodus, testament, kreator and sodom

[baspvn]

machine ****ing head !

[tehawesomness96]

this is gonna be so awesome

[nightraven]

checked!

[Timmy Boi]

GOD that would be the best concert ever

[SOADriff]

This would be EPIC!

[jthm_guitarist]

This would be alright.

[Knot555~666]

Paradox5 you are wrong dave dislikes kirk because in his opinion he stole his job and he also dislikes lars not kirk. Machine head don't deserve to be in it. They are terrible and it dosent matter what anyone says. It's the truth.
Would have been brilliant if it was metallica,pantera,slipknot and megadeath.....EPIC

[tom1thomas1]

how do you fit four bands on one bill playing full sets, all day concert? they'd play full sets right?

[skunkrock]

this better happen. and it sure as hell better come to the uk.

[Joe310707]

This would be ace. Replace Slayer with Iron Maiden and it would be even better. They aint thrsh but Slayer are the most unmusical band in history and Kerry King is a *****

[kfong03]

i would go just for metallica and megadeth, but with slayer added on it's gonna be a treat

[cobainAnselmo]

Opening Act:
1. Machine Head
2. Testament

Main Event:
1. Metallica
2. Slayer
3. Megadeth
4. Anthrax

I WILL BUY THIS TICKET, EVEN IF IT COST A HUNDREDS BUCKS...

[Korner4]

I would travel the globe to see this.... Awesome!

[BornToRun]

Does Anthrax even have a lead singer at the moment?

[nick_b]

i'd give it about a week before something went wrong.

[Timothy O.]

If they didn't have Anthrax than essentially, it would just be another heavy metal tour. Put them in there and we have the tour many have been craving for years: the Big Four, all together on one tour.

[TheLukeMaxfield]

if they all toured together surely there sets would be really short? i'd rather pay a bit more and see them separately. Metallica and Megadeth would be good though.

[Strat0mastermyk]

I hope they come to manchester or liverpool!

[leCrime]

MoToRhEaD714 wrote:

machine head would just ruin the whole show with their lame vocals...
Anthrax isn't in pieces anymore...they are reuniting with john bush

wtf machine head is pure live power man. stop talkin shit plz ^^

[Shreddaboi12]

omfg this would be EPIC

thank god i live in aus haha

[Sober_god]

Well if this is Slayer's last album, and maybe Megadeth's time is now or never. Anthrax over machine head, this isnt about who is in better shape, it's about a big four legasy

[Sanitarium91]

cobainAnselmo wrote:

Opening Act:
1. Exodus
2. Testament

Main Event:
1. Metallica
2. Slayer
3. Megadeth
4. Anthrax

I WILL BUY THIS TICKET, EVEN IF IT COST A HUNDREDS BUCKS...

Fix'd. Also, a hundred bucks? If that's how far you'll go, I doubt you'll be getting a ticket.

[k3vin70]

i would kill AND i MEAN KILL to see this

METALLICAAAAA!!!!!

[steevo92]

Why i have to live in Hungary... I'm sure this tour won't touch Budapest...

[j-walk]

I am an idiot wrote:

Megadeth,Metallica,Pantera,Slayer -Big Four.

Thank you!

[ihavenoname93]

but how do you leave out Machine Head? There's better options than ANTHRAX and that's nothing against Anthrax, but they've just been in pieces for quite some time and that doesn't make as much sense to me

god kerry is a tard. does he even know what the big 4 means?

anyway, this would be legendary, but its not going to happen. dave doesnt like lars, kerry doesnt like anthrax, and anthrax has been dismantled.

plus this is going to be at best like a $200 ticket.

im seeing slayer and megadeth in perth soon anyway, and if metallica comes to australia, then ill go see them too. so im not that concerned.

[moonchild9]

The way I see it this only Kerry King trying to get more publicity around Slayer and their new album rather than "uniting" the Big 4.

[dial-a-death]

i think everyone here is aiming to low. Big Four Tour? No. Big Four Fest? YES! Here's the line-up:
4 days, with each of the big four headlining. + Machine Head, Testament, Warbringer, Municipal Waste, and any other awesome thrash/ machine head style band you care to add.
4 DAYS OF THRASH = HEAVEN

[metalicizer]

I've been waiting for this tour to happen for years.

[niejel]

wish they'd come to the Philippines. Then I'd be darn happy to die.

[MoonWise]

Meta and Mega on the same bill? WOW! Please do tell just how many bruises were left?

[TakeoutheTHRASH]

dude, slayer and anthrax and megadeth!? Meh to metallica but HOLY SHIT!

[19rovert93]

Dude that woul kick @$$ if this tour came together anthrax is a meh for me but METALLICA,slayer,and megadeath that would be one heck of a show....

[LukeElliff]

SilentHeaven109 wrote:

Definately Machine Head over Anthrax. I love old Anthrax, but they really aren't as good these days as the rest of the Big Four. They don't technically have a singer at the moment, whereas Machine Head are absolutely amazing at the moment.

Exactly, supporting Slipknot, they were amazing, I'd love to see them headline a tour

[Orion999]

For once I agree with Kerry King. Absolutely Machine Head should be considered, but it's absurd not to consider Anthrax as well. That's the problem I have with King, I feel like he's always knocking other people. It's weak. Wise up, King.

[Gexzilla]

And fans of all four bands would massacre each other during the show.

I would pay 400$ to be there.

[GodofGuitar1991]

****....

[GenerationKILL]

this will NEVER happen because Dave Mustaine is too much of a whiny *******, need proof? look up that UG interview with him where he rants about being listed as that number one metal guitarist, and brings up the fact that hes finally "beaten" metallica at something, can you imagine the shit storm that would take place on a daily basis? (no, I WANNA HEADLINE, WHY THE FUCK DOES METALLICA GET TO HEADLINE, WAH-WAH-WAH!!!) Sorry dave Statistically metallica always has been a bigger band than yours, thats why they're headlining, is that okay with you, your magesty?

Whos Kerry King to say that Machine Head deserve a spot OVER anthrax? This is another reason why this'll never happen, Kerry King is a ****in *******, and its well known that him and Dave Mustaine are two egomaniacs that have ALWAYS shit-talked eachoter.

Good-luck making this happen, its about as likely as another pink floyd reunion, Dave Mustaine playing the part of Roger Waters to Lars' and Kerry Kings' David Gilmour, HE CAN'T GET ALONG WITH EITHER OF THEM FOR LONG ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL.

[crazyfox]

wow, did someone say f*in amazing? that would be beyond that!!!! would be wicked without any doubts.

[nightraven]

checked once again

[Joesizzle61591]

KERRY KING YOU FUCKIN SUCK! He makes Slayer look bad...and they are in no position to say anthrax shouldnt play! Anthrax is the only guys that havent been puttin out crap like the other 3 big bands...maybe they knew better!

[Betzefer]

As much as I love Machine Head, I would die to see the big 4 together, and it can't happen without Anthrax

[ThePilgrim]

As much as I love Machine Head, I would die to see the big 4 together, and it can't happen without Anthrax

I totally agree with you there mate. If they do tour it's gonna be f***kin sick!

[PJ=Metal]

What Is This My Prayers Finally Answered It Should be a festval like that one dude said With
Testament
Machine Head
Black Label Society (I know Zack Aint well)
Anthrax
Metallica
Slayer
MEGADETH!!!!!

[Beasternaut]

If this is going to happen, I hope they'll come to Finland too and I could the fantastic four together. I also would love if Machine Head joined with them. \,,/

[StONE_ROdGEr]

Have all of em mentioned!

[guitargod76]

I'd give anything to see that.

[SGofawesome]

Sorry, but I don't see Mustaine agreeing to tour with Tallica. And why not get Anthrax AND Machine Head on the tour?[/quote]First off, the OLD Dave that didn't have crap goin on in his life wouldn't agree in a million years, but now, the way he's shaped up, he wouldn't refuse because he'd look like a fake, liar, and other names because he's been telling people he is a new man. Refusing would just put him back at the bottom, even though he is the best Metal guitarist, his rep is terrible.

Second of all, putting machine head in the tour, along with Anthrax, would be cool, but stupid. It definitely would be a cool show, but that's why it's the "Fearsome Four" (by the way that is the actual name for those people who say it's the "Big 4"). It's not the fearsome "five".

Anthrax is worthy of the fearsome four just as much as Machine Head, it's just the fact that Machine Head was like all other thrash bands at the time, so they didn't stick out like Anthrax. Anthrax was ahead of their time, just like the other three, especially Slayer.

By the way if such a tour happened, there probably wouldn't be a headlining band, because they all deserve it.

If they did the most likely would, of course be Metallica, but that's only because they earned it. They worked all their career really hard, consistently made good albums, except of course after ReLoad up until Death Magnetic, and most of the people on this website bash Metallica because of stupid reasons like htey're too mainstream or they took Dave's songs. That's stupid. They're mainstream because most of the world like their music. I feel the idea of mainstreaming music is stupid. It's played a lot for a reason, because IT IS GOOD!!!

[uptheironsUSA]

i honestly dont think metallica and megadeth would ever tour together. they just hate eachother way too much. i mean come on. dave mustaine and metallica dont really get along. they stole the mechanix from him and re wrote it to be the four horsemen which is a crappy version of the song. and dave banged kirks girlfriend before he left the band. and even if they do theyll probably cancel the tour half way or someone will leave because theyll fight too much and just annoy the crap put of everyone. plus they need iron maiden on the tour just cuz they kick ass(=

[uptheironsUSA]

and plus metallicas a ****ing sell out band after cliff died R.I.P they went down hill.

[uptheironsUSA]

PJ=Metal wrote:

What Is This My Prayers Finally Answered It Should be a festval like that one dude said With
Testament
Machine Head
Black Label Society (I know Zack Aint well)
Anthrax
Metallica
Slayer
MEGADETH!!!!!

dont forget iron maiden man.

[strat0master]

big four tour! please let this happen

[The Stiv]

Wow...festival please.

Metallica
Megadave
Testament
Machine Head
Exodus
Lamb of God
Slayer can make their noise for a bit, maybe.
Anthrax if they get their shit together would be amazing and no one can deny it.

[racman92]

The Stiv wrote:

Wow...festival please.

Metallica
Megadave
Testament
Machine Head
Exodus
Lamb of God
Slayer can make their noise for a bit, maybe.
Anthrax if they get their shit together would be amazing and no one can deny it.

OMFG. Thats like Mayhem Fest on steroids!

[Black Star]

I think they should keep the Big 4 on the bill, even though I believe Testament deserves the spot more than Anthrax does.

Maybe have a real metal festival, unlike these crap festivals out now. Keep the Big 4, add on Testament, Exodus, and Machine Head.

[ew94]

In my opinion, if it's supposed to be JUST The Big Four, keep the ****ing Big Four! Tho hell with Machine Head, Testament and Exodus, if it;s supposed to be REAL thrash meal, get the Big Four and make them play their old stuff, now that would be awesome!

[Black Star]

ew94 wrote:

In my opinion, if it's supposed to be JUST The Big Four, keep the ****ing Big Four! Tho hell with Machine Head, Testament and Exodus, if it;s supposed to be REAL thrash meal, get the Big Four and make them play their old stuff, now that would be awesome!

If it's supposed to be "real thrash", then like I said, Testament deserves the spot more than Anthrax does. Hell, I also agree that Exodus deserves the spot more than Slayer. Slayer is kind of like the Slipknot of their time: they play talentless music, and all the fanboys cream their pants for them.

Besides, nowhere in the article did it state that it was to be JUST the Big Four.

[ThEcOnQuIsTaDoR]

GoToSleep wrote:

Anthrax is real irrelevant atm. Pantera or Machine Head would fit in nicely but yeah...

dude, dimebag was shot and killed...5 years ago...after pantera broke up. there is no pantera anymore.

[Winnipeg]

i dont think anthrax wont be in dis one cuz they dont have a singer yet and if they do i would see anthrax then machine head because i already say machine head in canadian carange with megadeth and slayer. even thou i love machine head

[hildesaw]

shadesofanger wrote:

Why not do it festival style.

Machine Head
Exodus
Testament
Lamb of God
Anthrax
Slayer
Megadeth
Metallica

That was my idea. And throw in a whole bunch of new thrash bands i.e. Municipal Waste, Toxic Holocaust, Warbringer, and make it a worldwide thrash celebration festival with multiple stages etc

[MotörHeadFan22]

My God...This tour... You Just Can't Describe It with words...

[MotörHeadFan22]

hildesaw wrote:

shadesofanger wrote:

Why not do it festival style.

Machine Head
Exodus
Testament
Lamb of God
Anthrax
Slayer
Megadeth
Metallica

That was my idea. And throw in a whole bunch of new thrash bands i.e. Municipal Waste, Toxic Holocaust, Warbringer, and make it a worldwide thrash celebration festival with multiple stages etc

that would be a gods of thrash festival and i would f*cking show up every day of that festival, even if it meant getting my ass handed to me in the mosh XD

[MotörHeadFan22]

skate-fiend wrote:

vilches3 wrote:

It should be like an ozzfest type thing.....the Big four at the Main stage and at the second stage, put Exodus and Testament as the main acts and some smaller thrash bands.....or put the Big four and have a band like Lamb of God or Machine head open at the main stage.....point is, i think it should be like a big metal fest that includes more than the big four and machine head. What about Exodus, Kreator, Overkill, Testament and nuclear assault?.....hell maybe even toss some Warbringer and Annihilator in there too.....The thrash gods should form the first festival to cast only REAL metal unlike ozzfest. Sorry if everything i wrote came out slurred lol.

I would totally love to go to a thrash fest! \m/

Agreed, thrash fest would be beast, Metallica should play like

Creeping Death
Seek & Destroy
Jump In The Fire
The Four Horsemen
Fight Fire With Fire
Master Of Puppets
Welcome Home(Sanitarium)
Enter Sandman
Blackened
Harvester Of Sorrow
Whiplash
Hit The Lights

Encore:
Damage Inc.
No Remorse
Ride The Lightning

[MotörHeadFan22]

uptheironsUSA wrote:

and plus metallicas a ****ing sell out band after cliff died R.I.P they went down hill.

funny, they went downhill, lets see...never? cliff was the downfall of their thrash days, but they still put out ...And Justice, but anyways i think it was Bob Rock, after all, Black, Load, ReLoad, St. Anger WERE produced by HIM