RATM To Play Minneapolis During Republican National Convention

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Rage Against The Machine will give a rare performance at Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota on September 3 the same week as the Republican National Convention in St. Paul. Tickets go on sale Saturday at 10 a.m. for $60.

Rage guitarist Tom Morello has also committed to perform with country-rocker Steve Earle at a union rally September 1 at St. Paul's Harriet Island, the first day of the convention.

Rage Against The Machine performed outside the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles in August of 2000, one of the group's final performances before going on a seven-year hiatus.

The band reunited last year for a series of concerts and festival appearances that continues in 2008.

Rumors persist that a new Rage album is in the works, but the group has not announced any official plans to record new music.

Thanks for the report to Blabbermouth.net.

Comments

[sucay]

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

[pootoob]

EMO?!?!
dude, have you even listened to Rage? It'd be the same. Screaming metal, with rap. Zack would never do anything 'emo'. He is a rapper thru and thru, and Morello and co would do hard-rock at the softest.

[edbert]

^^ +1

I can't ever see Rage straying from their roots.

Rage...emo...hahahahahahaha

[webbtje]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

Whaaaaat... Morello's riffing style is so removed from 'emo' that they have nothing in common.

[Pumpkins4Life]

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

[israels_son]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

uh..whut.

New rage would be cool. But i hope it would follow the heavy riffing of their first and third album and not as experimental as the second.

[shenanigans]

It's ridiculous that they haven't already put out another record. This is the absolute perfect time to "Rage Against the Machine". Back in day Rage were making music when Clinton was in office, which is also when the country was in amazing shape and the economy was booming. Right when Bush took over and the country took a huge downturn, Rage stops making music! WTF! I bet now they are going to release an album after a new president comes in and fixes the country a little.

[Skarson]

Don't feed the troll, y'all.

[billruption26]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

come on dude, i have a friend like that that tries to prove that the bands he likes are better because they can beat the shit outta other bands, toughness has nothing to do with musical prowess. if anything it simply cheapens the argument, which is incredibly sad in this case as it does not take even basic music theory to see that rage against the machine are miles ahead of anyone ever to take on the name emo. a brighter note, glad to see the rage boys still stirring things up politically!

[sowhat360]

i went to lollapalooza last weekend. they definately aren't going soft. unreal concert, complete chaos. best band ever. nobody else brings that level of intensity.

[LedZeppelin]

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

pootoob wrote:

EMO?!?!
dude, have you even listened to Rage? It'd be the same. Screaming metal, with rap. Zack would never do anything 'emo'. He is a rapper thru and thru, and Morello and co would do hard-rock at the softest.

Imagine the band playing something similar to hawthorne heights. I hope I never have to actually see that.

[jigglemaster]

^^^ what sowhat360 said

[metalmilitia90]

LedZeppelin :
hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


good point

[GuitaPlaya]

billruption26 wrote:
Glad to see the rage boys still stirring things up politically!

Playing at the Target Center with tickets selling for $60. They sure are some hardcore activists.

[roarinflames]

am i the only person that thought the headline was almost ironic

[thankyougermany]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

They are also prowar and pro big business.... it's not all about the size of the government.

[MetalliRage]

um i love these guys, but they protest at both the republican and democratic national convention. they protested against the democrats in 2000 and bush wins now they r against bush like crazy(WTF?). i can understand being an indepensent and independant voters r probaly he most intact with the politics going around because their is no bias in their views, but RATM is against everything. personally i think they r communist. but no matter what they are they are still one of my top favorite bands of all time. i cant do my history homeork during school without listening to these guys lol. F*** YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

[AndyVanHalen]

YESSSSS!!!!!

[Froggy McHop]

We need a new album now more than ever. I think Rage has more than enough to put across their views on, given the state of current world afairs.

[farfaraway]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

Well it wouldn't do much good giving people you don't support a free concert.

[AngerIsAGift06]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly EMO

you die now

[Zar Mulix]

MetalliRage wrote:

um i love these guys, but they protest at both the republican and democratic national convention. they protested against the democrats in 2000 and bush wins now they r against bush like crazy(WTF?).

It's because they understand the flaws of a two party system.

[ashowe]

Finally, being from Minnesota pays off!

[hamsterman64]

Yeah, there is no way in hell that these guys could reunite like this and NOT give us another album! If it is truly in the works, then I am truly stoked. I got into Rage a couple years after they'd split, so if I got to experience a new album as it was released, I'd be soooo happy!!

[fishmunky]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, torture, spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

[rage6945]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

we should probably get you a job at rolling stone magazine, you really know a lot about music

[rage6945]

uh..whut.

New rage would be cool. But i hope it would follow the heavy riffing of their first and third album and not as experimental as the second.[/quote]

evil empire had some pretty heavy riffing, it did have a much darker sound than the other two albums but it was still their sound

[dgme92]

sucay wrote:
that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

Bahahahahahahaha!!

One another note, new Rage would be awesome as a bag full of coyotes. Yes, that awesome.

[Lotz222]

Sucks i USED to live there.....

[Jondy]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

god you're right and metallica's new album will probably be bubblegum pop

[Idioteque5150]

they are small government because they want to have a once world government where tycoons control everything, you idiot. Thats just my two sense, but I hope they play Born of Broken Man!! UHHHH

[Idioteque5150]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

Corrected: Republicans are for small government because they to have a one world government where Tycoons and Big Business control everything(monopolies) In any case I hope Rage will play Born of a Broken Man!!

[whitestrat279]

fishmunky :
LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, torture, spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

Yes, someone who gets it. Ya know LedZeppelin, Tom Morello is Marxist, which is a form of Socialism. And Socialism is closer to the Democrats side of the political spectrum with more government funded programs and such. So, RATM would not enjoy being near the Repulican Convention. Dumbass. I'm 16 and I seem to know more about politics.

[korn_dawg]

farfaraway wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government. Well it wouldn't do much good giving people you don't support a free concert.

WHOA, FREE CONCERT? WHERE? not this one. not even really close lol

[thelostvoices]

Sweet...Now I just have to convince my fairly conservative parents to let me drive a couple hundred miles to see my favorite band who they don't approve of...

[guitaringnathan]

fishmunky wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, , spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

i think the both sides are screwing us, i have lost faith in our leaders and i feel no matter who wins we will continue on this treadmill that our government has us on or we will become a socialist state, either way im not a big fan. i believe in conservative values but i donnt think they really exist any more

but i do like ratm so cool

[thelostvoices]

guitaringnathan wrote:

fishmunky wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, , spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

i think the both sides are screwing us, i have lost faith in our leaders and i feel no matter who wins we will continue on this treadmill that our government has us on or we will become a socialist state, either way im not a big fan. i believe in conservative values but i donnt think they really exist any more

but i do like ratm so cool

I feel exactly the same way. As long as we have a two
party system where no one can really stand for what they truly believe in, and American politics continues to be controlled by money, our future as a democracy does not look good.

[Uninspired_One]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

Dude, what the ****, have you even heard rage before? I saw them at voodoo fest and they had the cops on horses before the concert started? do you see that at a dashboard confessional concert, i think not. have you heard either side projects of zack or tom? NOT EMO, please stop failing and get your shit straight.

[dvd_dq]

it sucks that this generation IMO doesn't have enough balls to stand up for control of their own country... not even with this great Anarchy music.... I guess we'll just watch a good show and hope for the Democrat

[Year Zero]

Sucay should be brutally murdered for uttering RATM and emo together.

[ferretface]

I think they are playing outside of the Convention for irony.

[New Macabre]

FUCK. YEAH.

Makes up for NIN being postponed three months.

[6cradle6of6filt]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

[BFMV fan]

I would love to be there, but i really hope they make a new album.

[Chaingarden]

I love how when an old band reunites for a show, or does a new album, dipshits are always coming out of the wood works with canned buzzwords like "commercial," "mainstream," or "sell-outs." I'm just simply lost on the "emo" thing, but any time I hear somebody describe a band as being "too commercial" or "too mainstream" I want to puke. On them.

I think that's a funny idea. I mean really, they aren't going to change the minds of any Republican National Convention attendees, but it's still a nice big **** you.

[BriGuy7727]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.

[bmarlatt1685]

BriGuy7727 wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.

Just like Democrats wanna ban smoking in all workplaces, restaurants, and business (It's pro-choice right. It's their bodies. I guess not). They wanna dictate how business run themselves in general. They are FOR free speech provided they agree with it and it's not "offensive" or "politically incorrect" otherwise you need to be censored and (or) end up in some discrimination seminar, and they wanna fund low life welfare mooches by over taxing people like me... But what does it matter? Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. I'm a Libertarian anyway.

[Synystyer]

bmarlatt1685 wrote:

BriGuy7727 wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.
Just like Democrats wanna ban smoking in all workplaces, restaurants, and business (It's pro-choice right. It's their bodies. I guess not). They wanna dictate how business run themselves in general. They are FOR free speech provided they agree with it and it's not "offensive" or "politically incorrect" otherwise you need to be censored and (or) end up in some discrimination seminar, and they wanna fund low life welfare mooches by over taxing people like me... But what does it matter? Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. I'm a Libertarian anyway.

Right on, brother! F*ck the two party system.

[phobik]

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

lol wut?
as the last guy said, they're for small government when it comes to restricting business.
and the republicans that are in power today hardly follow their party's guidelines, they've been pulling 1984 shit for the past eight years!

[Wraith Of War]

I love how people use "communist" as an insult.

True communism is perfect in belief, so insulting someone for having those ideas is ****ing stupid. It's human error that ****s up communism 100% of the time.

That's a discussion for another place though, I suppose. I just saw mention of it in here, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

[korn2601]

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.


Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

wow thats funny ive never heard of crade of dilth hahah dumbass and idk about the emo fight agains the rage fans because the emo kids have knifes so they can cut there wrist so idk will just take guns like nuns and guns haha

[Aidan93]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

or in this case, put them in a room with a bunch of republicans :P

[tommyt]

ofc, they'll wait till after the election to work on a new album

how else are they going to know who to whine about.

[Agemoi]

just to make a quick comment about Democrats wanting to ban smoking in public places comparing that to Republicans want to illegalize abortion...Smoking hurts others around you MORE than you, abortion is a personal tragic choice that should be taken with great consideration.

Comparing the two is.. Well is uncomparable, so dont try that..

hope RATM comes back though

[LedZeppelin]

for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, torture, spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

I didn't say Bush hasn't gotten conservativism offtrack. And I would argue there is a distinction between "conservative" and "Republican," or at least one has been created. Nixon and Reagan were conservatives. Bush is a Republican. He doesn't really adhere to any conservative principles. A true conservative wouldn't permit wiretapping, Guantanamo bay, etc.

[customisbetter]

I have read half of the responses here and can confidently say that no one i have read knows anything about government. The two parties in our country are much closer when you compare them to the parties of other countries and political systems. I just don't see the point of yelling and arguing.
Oh and rage kicks total ass. I really hope there is an album in the works and there is an entire song dedicated to the WHAMMY!!! But, yeah...

[Selvinator]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

Oh my God that just made my day
I love you!

[Tatersalad1080]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

thats not fair, the rage kids have an advantage cause they dont cut themselves and cry like little b*tches

[Tatersalad1080]

customisbetter wrote:

I have read half of the responses here and can confidently say that no one i have read knows anything about government. The two parties in our country are much closer when you compare them to the parties of other countries and political systems. I just don't see the point of yelling and arguing.
Oh and rage kicks total ass. I really hope there is an album in the works and there is an entire song dedicated to the WHAMMY!!! But, yeah...

yeah the american parties are pretty centered, not really extreme at all

[Hamham272]

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

Learn to governments... RATM believe that you shouldn't just have two partys to choose from. There are more than just two solutions for each problem.

roarinflames wrote:

am i the only person that thought the headline was almost ironic

No... learn to irony.

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

From what i've seen most Cradle of Filth fans are skinny white goth kids. At the RATM concert I went to there were heaps of MASSIVE Mexican and Spanish guys smashing around in a giant death pit (which I joined :P ). Ten bucks that the Cradle of Filth kids would come out with at least 2 broken bones each...

[travd92]

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.


Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

ha. cradle of filth? yeah right. if you ever want to see the perfect example of a band selling their asses out to sound just like the mainstream music today, check out cradle of filth. **** them.

[needafriend?]

Synystyer wrote:

bmarlatt1685 wrote:

BriGuy7727 wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.
Just like Democrats wanna ban smoking in all workplaces, restaurants, and business (It's pro-choice right. It's their bodies. I guess not). They wanna dictate how business run themselves in general. They are FOR free speech provided they agree with it and it's not "offensive" or "politically incorrect" otherwise you need to be censored and (or) end up in some discrimination seminar, and they wanna fund low life welfare mooches by over taxing people like me... But what does it matter? Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. I'm a Libertarian anyway.


Right on, brother! F*ck the two party system.

Ron Paul Revolution bitches.

[needafriend?]

Synystyer wrote:

bmarlatt1685 wrote:

BriGuy7727 wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.
Just like Democrats wanna ban smoking in all workplaces, restaurants, and business (It's pro-choice right. It's their bodies. I guess not). They wanna dictate how business run themselves in general. They are FOR free speech provided they agree with it and it's not "offensive" or "politically incorrect" otherwise you need to be censored and (or) end up in some discrimination seminar, and they wanna fund low life welfare mooches by over taxing people like me... But what does it matter? Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. I'm a Libertarian anyway.


Right on, brother! F*ck the two party system.

Ron Paul Revolution b*tches

[jahyarain]

Wraith Of War wrote:

I love how people use "communist" as an insult.

True communism is perfect in belief, so insulting someone for having those ideas is ****ing stupid. It's human error that ****s up communism 100% of the time.

That's a discussion for another place though, I suppose. I just saw mention of it in here, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

in the words of the immortal Queensryche, "Speak the Word"! oh, and FUCK conservatives. lil' bitches.

[Dragon Master]

pootoob wrote:

EMO?!?!
dude, have you even listened to Rage? It'd be the same. Screaming metal, with rap. Zack would never do anything 'emo'. He is a rapper thru and thru, and Morello and co would do hard-rock at the softest.

You're right and I don't want to see any established bands going commercial, that way, but I don't respect those guys going and blowing their horn at the same time as the Republican Convention. They don't have respect.

[MegaRon]

Awesome.

[therescue06]

its on my ****ing birthday
HOOOOO FUCKIN RAY!

[punkrockjoe]

I love Rage and i'm glad that they can inspire such an intense political discussion on UG or anywhere for that matter because this shit is important.

[trouble37]

haha niiiice 3 hours away from me.

[punkrockjoe]

I love Rage and i'm glad that they can inspire such an intense political discussion on UG or anywhere for that matter because this shit is important.

[f1sk]

damn wish i could rage

[mercedesisbenz]

they should have tried to find a political band that the politicians might actually listen to to play in town the same week. Rage can play right down the street from the convention but it doesn't really mean it'll accomplish anything.

[ovation08]

shenanigans wrote:

It's ridiculous that they haven't already put out another record. This is the absolute perfect time to "Rage Against the Machine". Back in day Rage were making music when Clinton was in office, which is also when the country was in amazing shape and the economy was booming. Right when Bush took over and the country took a huge downturn, Rage stops making music! WTF! I bet now they are going to release an album after a new president comes in and fixes the country a little.

[Mr_Jones]

metalmilitia90 wrote:

LedZeppelin :
hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


good point

i had no idea "smaller government" meant giving rich people less taxes while making the poor and middle class the financial burdon. meh learn something every day i guess.

[ovation08]

Clinton sucks, I struggled in the 90's while he was in office and i'm doing great this decade! I'm sure RATM did not break up cause of Bush. WTF!

[ovation08]

WTF

[JDMII]

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

honestly, probably the emo kids. they'd drown the rage kids from crying to much.

[MegaRon]

JDMII wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.
honestly, probably the emo kids. they'd drown the rage kids from crying to much.

Bahahahahahaha. Anywho, awesome that RATM is sort of shaking stuff up before the RNC. Kudos to them.

[JeffWiredBeck24]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

You win for most poorly-thought out, ignorant, and mis-informed statement made so far.

[mikko 9119]

yay for me!! i'm 45 minutes from there

[DimeLvR]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

EMO? I think they are too old to fit in little girls pants dont you?

[guitaringnathan]

Synystyer wrote:

bmarlatt1685 wrote:

BriGuy7727 wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


Actually they're not entirely for smaller government. They're small gov't when it comes to economic policy. Laisse-faire if you will.
But when it comes to other policies, it wants big gov't. Repubs want the gov't to tell people how/what to do. They want to wiretap your phones, ban abortion & gay marriage, and instill morality in people.
Just like Democrats wanna ban smoking in all workplaces, restaurants, and business (It's pro-choice right. It's their bodies. I guess not). They wanna dictate how business run themselves in general. They are FOR free speech provided they agree with it and it's not "offensive" or "politically incorrect" otherwise you need to be censored and (or) end up in some discrimination seminar, and they wanna fund low life welfare mooches by over taxing people like me... But what does it matter? Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. I'm a Libertarian anyway.

Right on, brother! F*ck the two party system.

+1 for both of yall, i beleive everyone should make their choices and the government shoul not interfere too much. i dont think the two party system is the problem but its the crooked politicians up in washington. you can tell they don't care bout pleaseing their state or district but just staying in power. i think their should be a way to get two or more candidates out but they screw it up

like yesterday, i heard that nancy pelosi(house leader of congress,democrat,) took a stance in congress that she did not want drilling, even though i personally disagree, good for her for standing up and holding strong to her beliefs, then she tells other democrats in back room meetings to vote for it if their people want it until they take full control of the presidency then change their minds bout it. not cool

oh and lastly, GO RAGE!

[perilouspete]

fishmunky wrote:

LedZeppelin wrote:

hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.

for real, I mean what says "the government should have as small a role in its citizens lives as possible" than wire tapping, torture, spying on citizens, patriot acts that allow a denial of constituional rights, Gitmo, random airport searches and the institution of police states

For real, Republicans clearly have this smaller government thing down to a T

Rage = Necessary at this stage of the game folks

it's called reality douche bag....the reality is, if you're not on your toes 24/7, there's plenty of people out there that hate the US no matter what and just want to destroy it. freedom comes with a price, if you don't fight you get ****ed. that's just how the world is. people who want all the freedom but don't want to do the things necessary to stay free are living in a fantasy world.

[NCHammer326]

Them boys are at it again, gosh darnit!
*banjo music*

[winner338]

RAGE!!!!! i cant wait to go see em. tickets on sale saturday!!!!

[Devil_Duck]

How MC5 of them.

[moomoocons]

Mr_Jones wrote:

metalmilitia90 wrote:

LedZeppelin :
hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


good point

i had no idea "smaller government" meant giving rich people less taxes while making the poor and middle class the financial burdon. meh learn something every day i guess.

Any TRUE conservative would not agree with that. Dont confuse Bush and anyone using the name "Republican" with conservatism. People who vote for "Democrats" or "Republicans" solely based on the title should learn to think and pay attention to what each person stands for, not blindly chose based on a name.

[staind_dust87]

Good music, but the guys are a bunch of dumbasses, lol Morello is a borderline communist, they need to get a freaking life, stay out of politics and just write music, thats what there good at. but whatever, glad there back together, lol.

[Yeti60]

MetalliRage wrote:

um i love these guys, but they protest at both the republican and democratic national convention. they protested against the democrats in 2000 and bush wins now they r against bush like crazy(WTF?). i can understand being an indepensent and independant voters r probaly he most intact with the politics going around because their is no bias in their views, but RATM is against everything. personally i think they r communist. but no matter what they are they are still one of my top favorite bands of all time. i cant do my history homeork during school without listening to these guys lol. F*** YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

Uh yeah, they are communist, at least Morello is... but by the way... the democrats and the republicans are both bad... they are very similar, they both cater to special interest groups... so its understandable that they protest govt. in general... what has this Republican presidency done for you? what has this Democratic congress done for you?

still democrats are better... not by much though

[shadow__666]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

Crack is bad for you.

[shadow__666]

dvd_dq wrote:

it sucks that this generation IMO doesn't have enough balls to stand up for control of their own country... not even with this great Anarchy music.... I guess we'll just watch a good show and hope for the Democrat

Amen. Most of my generation are too busy adding friends on myspace to give a sh*t about the state of our world. Sometimes I wonder if we have any hope...

[insurgentsteve]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

lol, i want to continue ripping on this comment, how ridiculous.

[insurgentsteve]

Mr_Jones wrote:

metalmilitia90 wrote:

LedZeppelin :
hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


good point

i had no idea "smaller government" meant giving rich people less taxes while making the poor and middle class the financial burdon. meh learn something every day i guess.

actually a large government is what's best... it's called democracy, a small government is a dictatoriship where a few have all the power, something Rage (and hopefully everyone) is against. So we gotta take the power back. Ignorant people such as yourself keep giving them more power by allowing them to do as they please without being questioned. This world scares me with people like you in it. Rage needs to come back in full force, spread some more sense to the people as much as they can, too bad the masses will just never learn.

[SharpObject]

Sounds sick. All of it

[I_am_bored]

my brother is volunteering at the convention hahaha, well, while he's there, I'll be rockin out to some Rage, very divided family as you can imagine

[GodbowstoMath]

pootoob wrote:

EMO?!?!
dude, have you even listened to Rage? It'd be the same. Screaming metal, with rap. Zack would never do anything 'emo'. He is a rapper thru and thru, and Morello and co would do hard-rock at the softest.

Zach was a punker before he was a rapper, but that's really just another supporting point.

[LynchMobster]

Rage would never go emo. Morello is still the legend he has always. And have you heard One Day As a Lion? Well if you have, that is proof that Zack is still on top of his game. So if Morello still plays like he used to, and Zack still raps like he used to, it is impossible for anything new to ever sound emo.

[GodbowstoMath]

insurgentsteve wrote:

Mr_Jones wrote:

metalmilitia90 wrote:

LedZeppelin :
hah, actually RATM should enjoy this, seeing as they bitch about "the government" and "the system," and Republicans are for smaller government.


good point

i had no idea "smaller government" meant giving rich people less taxes while making the poor and middle class the financial burdon. meh learn something every day i guess.

actually a large government is what's best... it's called democracy, a small government is a dictatoriship where a few have all the power, something Rage (and hopefully everyone) is against. So we gotta take the power back. Ignorant people such as yourself keep giving them more power by allowing them to do as they please without being questioned. This world scares me with people like you in it. Rage needs to come back in full force, spread some more sense to the people as much as they can, too bad the masses will just never learn.

a smaller government means that there'd be less administrative posts in the federal government. Democracy is simply a process to represent a mass of people's ideas, it's got nothing to do with the size of the government. Besides, the biggest governments are typically communist and socialist governments due to the excessive amounts of programs provided for the people and to manage government owned businesses. So, I don't see that you have a clue what you're talking about either. The GOP talks about a smaller government but, under this current GOP era, spending has skyrocketed and a number of new administrative posts have been added, such as Homeland Security and Department of Central Intelligence (never mind that we've already got the FBI and the CIA already) and expanded budgets for FEMA and other various departments of the government. Rule number one in Democracy, never trust your politicians, even the good ones. We gotta take the power back!

[terrencemaddox]

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.


Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

Uh...COF fans start a huge larp session while the Rage fans slowly move away?

Anyways, I'm happy they're playing. I saw them when they toured in support of Battle and it was intense.

[kool98769]

WHOS GOING TO THIS CONCERT?!?!

I AM!!!!!
WOOOOOt.

They're always about making a racket. Just glad i can be part of it!

[Toxtoth_O_Grady]

israels_son wrote:

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo


uh..whut.

New rage would be cool. But i hope it would follow the heavy riffing of their first and third album and not as experimental as the second.

I'd be happy with something like Renegades ...

[KingGohma]

needafriend? wrote:

Ron Paul Revolution bitches.

Do you, like Ron Paul, agree that its not genocide if its black people. Or that New York should be renamed "Rapeville" because of all the blacks?

Do you also agree that Mexicans crossing the border should be shot on sight? Or possibly that abortion is a mortal sin?

Please research your chosen political hero before pledging allegiance for them based purely on the ideal of "HURRR FUCK THE SYSTEM. ANARCHY FOR THE WIN HURRR. I LIVE ON THE INTERNET"

[TheBlackKey9]

The day Rage records an emo album is the day that tsatan and jesus have a boxing match on earth, making everyones heads explode and eventually destroying the universe dur to the intensity of the fight. Thats how unlikely it is. Period.

[crazymnm]

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

The rage fans. The cradle of Filth fans are all 14 year olds who think they're hardcore listening to "br00tal black metalz"

[KingGohma]

Either that, or they're morbidly obese nerds of ambiguous gender.

[highwayone73]

This is pretty awesome. Hopefully no one riots this time. Btw... RATM's message is closer to socialist than communist. The majority of goverments that are commonly called communist are actually Marxist and yes there is a difference. You kids have fun with these ridiculous arguements though.

[DarkWizzard]

Zar Mulix wrote:

It's because they understand the flaws of a two party system.

Come on folks! It isn't a two party system! Over the years however, third party candidates have never won. (Sadly. Bull Moose Party all the way!) This however is in no way the fault of the system. It is the fault of the people in focusing completely on the candidates of the two major parties and ignoring anyone else. Of course, third, fourth, etc. parties would actually need to put up people who were different from the main candidates. It's bad enough when there is two candidates that you feel are equally bad, but four of them would be just ridiculous. Again though, it is up to the people and the people, at least at the moment, seem perfectly content with two parties.

[FIP]

are RATM on a tour ??
munich ?????

[7stringuzr]

how about put Lamb Of God fans with Rage fans that would be pretty intense

[LordArbiter]

This should be interesting to see >=D Although if possible RATM should play both the Republican and Democratic national conventions...they're both two sides to the same coin...and as for the "size of government" argument going on above here...both seem to be for small government...small enough to fit in your bedroom....

[jcthomasva]

I saw Chris Cornell perform Audioslave songs with his new back-up/touring band, and it was hysterical how much better an unheralded session guitarist was than that doofus Morello. Morello wrote some of the worst solos for songs I've ever heard (just juvenile) and Cornell removed all of them and let his new guitarist replace them with real solos, not repetitive two note melodies plucked on the low E string.

[killboypowerhed]

israels_son wrote:

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

uh..whut.

New rage would be cool. But i hope it would follow the heavy riffing of their first and third album and not as experimental as the second.

evil empire was perfect what are you talking about?

[truemetal91]

sucay wrote:

that be nice, and if they decide to come up with new stuff, it won't be the same, it'd be mainstream and overly commercial, and possibly emo

wot the hell, RATM would never do that, u obviously know nothing bout what they and their music is about.

[shadow__666]

LordArbiter wrote:

This should be interesting to see >=D Although if possible RATM should play both the Republican and Democratic national conventions...they're both two sides to the same coin...and as for the "size of government" argument going on above here...both seem to be for small government...small enough to fit in your bedroom....

The played the DNC in 2000.

[needafriend?]

KingGohma wrote:

needafriend? wrote:

Ron Paul Revolution bitches.


Do you, like Ron Paul, agree that its not genocide if its black people. Or that New York should be renamed "Rapeville" because of all the blacks?

Do you also agree that Mexicans crossing the border should be shot on sight? Or possibly that abortion is a mortal sin?

Please research your chosen political hero before pledging allegiance for them based purely on the ideal of "HURRR FUCK THE SYSTEM. ANARCHY FOR THE WIN HURRR. I LIVE ON THE INTERNET"

im not racist but it does seem like theres plenty of rape going on in new york.

and im a mexican. he wont be able to do that. the vatos down there are smarter than you putos think.

and yeah, last time i checked, abortion is killing.

plus hes at least not full of sh*t like obama and mccain

[justiferatu]

MetalliRage wrote:

um i love these guys, but they protest at both the republican and democratic national convention. they protested against the democrats in 2000 and bush wins now they r against bush like crazy(WTF?). i can understand being an indepensent and independant voters r probaly he most intact with the politics going around because their is no bias in their views, but RATM is against everything. personally i think they r communist. but no matter what they are they are still one of my top favorite bands of all time. i cant do my history homeork during school without listening to these guys lol. F*** YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

they are communist.

[justiferatu]

6cradle6of6filt wrote:

Pumpkins4Life wrote:

Take a bunch of Rage fans and put them in a room with a bunch of emo kids and see which group lasts longer.

Put a bunch of Cradle Of Dilth fans in a room with a bunch of RATM fans and see who lasts longer

my votes on the rage fans. for real. and i assume you mean filth, not dilth. you even capitalized it and you couldnt get it right. haha, if its a battle of whits then its for sure gonna be the rage fans. rather than cradle of dolts fans... haha

[justiferatu]

i meant wits* haha.

[RATM_11]

soooo i read all these comments and from what i read i must say i feel really smart all of a sudden. Calling Rage a future emo band? wowwww. Calling ron paul a political hero? wow wowwww. Sticking lamb of god fans in a room with rage fans? c'mon they wouldn't be killing each it'd just b a massive death pit. And then all this crap about republicans want this and democrats want that... here's my input (right or wrong i don't care) rage is just doing this concert to piss ppl off and mess with them, cuz last i checked music doesn't sway the votes; morello does appear communist but then again wats negative about that? Communism isn't a bad thing it's just never been done right!! almost everyone when they hear the term communist thinks Russia and China this this and that. those who r that ignorant need to read some literature by a man named Fredriech Engells and Karl Marx. And since when do ppl actually believe that the government gives a **** about the citizens? politicians only speak a language called MONEY. its what they were born with and always want more of. how many ppl in office don't come from a rediculously wealthy family? not many. And they only want either ur money or ur vote...which in the end means ur money. Notice how both sides want a lot of the same things in subjects that are one-sided by this country, but when it comes to topics that are fairly even they split up? its like gambling!! wats gonna win the vote? pro-life or pro-choice? they are gambling on ur decisions. 99% they gamble very conservatively. whens the last time a president came up with an idea that WASN'T already around for years and years? one i can think of is bush reacting to terrorism "in response to 9/11" and look how that turned out. yes we haven't heard from bin laden and hussein was finally killed, but did he stop there? NO. he a non-conservative opinion to stay there and help out!! and we lost money, didn;t get terribly much done, oh and he lost his support from the ppl. but u know what? he doesn't care. not his problem anymore. he won't be around. he doesn't have to clean up the mess. and he opened up ideas for the next guys. one of the main parts of obama's and mccain's campaigns, soldier's in iraq!! not their ideas to take them out!! OUR ideas. and once they meet the little demands we want they either become lame ducks or start doing things u never heard from them on the campaign. and its cuz they don't give a shit about u anymore. they already got ur vote and ur money. and now there only doing watever they want.

how many of these gys have we stopped? one. out of prolly all the presidents...one. and u know what? wat he did would b totally acceptable today cuz politicians brought out the idea to the public so they can hear ur opinions so they can plan on wat to make part of their platform next.

now i'm prolly very off in some parts (im 17 and still learning) but i hope i shed some light on the subject.

whew that was a lot. for the record, rage against the machine is my favorite band and i would love some new material. i don't know wat would make ppl think they would sell out cuz they have only gone FARTHER away from mainstream since album one. the first one had the most simple sounds and solos and some solos were almost NORMAL. listen to those and compare the renegades and BOLA albums to that and now rage has nearly a decade worth of issues to discuss that u know will b mentioned. i am hoping to see them in minneapolis but between the cost (tickets r more now that they are all sold out!) and all the ppl rioting against the RNC. its gonna b hell and a half... and that won;t even include when rage starts playing!!

[scarystomper]

i love rage an i cant wait for them to put out a new album!!!