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Scars On Broadway Cancels Tour

artist: scars on broadway date: 10/07/2008 category: upcoming tours
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 10:31 am
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thirdeye_15 :
awwwww wat the fukkkk!!! hope system comes bak, but dint sound like anything soon was gona happen... wat fukin cheese balls man! i wanted to see that Scars in action
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 10:53 am / quote |
Necrosaber :
^I'm sorry, but please shut the hell up. Daron has just as much right to sing as Serj does. Also, just because Scars isn't doing anything right now, doesn't mean that means System comes back. Serj is the one that wanted to go solo, not Daron.

Also, Daron posted a blog on the myspace about it. It's funny how UG never posts it all.



A Message From Daron

I've read many of your postings and I owe it to all of you to respond:

I understand all of your frustration and anger, and I never meant to let any of you down. Your support for Scars has been so important to me and the band. I would never cancel a tour unless I had real reasons and personal things that require my undivided attention. The music of Scars will live on, but now is a time when aspects of my life need to be tended to. I hope all of you can understand.

-Daron


POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:05 pm / quote |
brantley23 :
hmm, lets hope that it really has to do with serious stuff and not with the band. if he is having problems with the band that means john might be included and that means no system reunion if him and john are fighting
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:08 pm / quote |
Macabre_Turtle :
Cancel the whole band. It's so terrible. If I personally, were lucky, than SOB and Serj's solo stuff, would've made Daron realize how much he needs Serj.

Also, I have all the confidence that SOAD will get back together.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:11 pm / quote |
samtberg :
I really wanted to like SoB - I quite liked Daron's singing on the last two SOAD albums. Unfortunately, the music was a concentrated version of all the things that weren't that good with SOAD (i.e. on the punk, rather than metal, side of things)

Not a great shame if they split - a great shame if SOAD don't release anything further though...

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:15 pm / quote |
break-me-in :
thirdeye_15 wrote:
awwwww wat the fukkkk!!! hope system comes bak, but dint sound like anything soon was gona happen... wat fukin cheese balls man! i wanted to see that Scars in action


Don't worry, you're not missing much. I saw them live and it was ok, but nothing special.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:16 pm / quote |
jdwilson223 :
Saw Scars On Broadway not too long back...huge let down. I like some of Serj's solo music though. Hope SOAD gets back together.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:16 pm / quote |
NorCalLos :
Put System back togehter, tour, and give each guy a slot in the show to play a couple of the songs from their solo albums. Problem solved.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:25 pm / quote |
Necrosaber :
I truly believe no one here ever even follows the news and status of each of the band members. I'm guessing most of you just assume the last 2 records triggered the hiatus and it's all Daron's fault. I advise you to do some research if you really care about the band. (System of a Down). The more you read both Serj's and Scars' interviews, the more you'll realize just what happened.

No one seems to want the truth though, they'd rather bask in ignorance because it's justify their senseless bashing.

A damn shame.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:34 pm / quote |
Vampiric Virus :
damn, I was looking forward to seeing them. Hope system comes back though.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:35 pm / quote |
Regression :
Rev0lver wrote:

Good, they were horrible anyway. Bring back SoaD, but put some duct tape over Daron's mouth this time. Serj is there to sing, not him.


I like his voice. =\

Didn't like what I heard of Scars On Broadway though.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:39 pm / quote |
nachtbericht :
wtf this stupid
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:44 pm / quote |
Kiffa :
I loved the Scars album, but both Serj's and Daron's records both had something missing, Serj's was missing Daron and Daron's was missing Serj, simple as that.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:49 pm / quote |
THE BULGE :
well ive met serj daron and john at thier solo shows and i asked darren what his plans were going to be he said hes gonna push this album and then when i mentioned sysem he said they would probs do that again and seemed really enthusiastic about it. thats from the man himself so.. lol not much else to say. cars serj and system all rock.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:52 pm / quote |
leftajarandy :
+1 to Kiffa.

I LOVE both Scars and Serj but when they combine its ULTRAAAAA

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:55 pm / quote |
zbest :
I truly believe no one here ever even follows the news and status of each of the band members. I'm guessing most of you just assume the last 2 records triggered the hiatus and it's all Daron's fault. I advise you to do some research if you really care about the band. (System of a Down). The more you read both Serj's and Scars' interviews, the more you'll realize just what happened.

No one seems to want the truth though, they'd rather bask in ignorance because it's justify their senseless bashing.


so would you likke to tell us what actually happened? because i dont blame daron but i still dont know why they split. it could very well be because of him though.. he did write all of the songs and all of the lyrics but didnt get credit. i would have been kinda pissed too.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Necrosaber :
zbest wrote:

I truly believe no one here ever even follows the news and status of each of the band members. I'm guessing most of you just assume the last 2 records triggered the hiatus and it's all Daron's fault. I advise you to do some research if you really care about the band. (System of a Down). The more you read both Serj's and Scars' interviews, the more you'll realize just what happened.

No one seems to want the truth though, they'd rather bask in ignorance because it's justify their senseless bashing.


so would you likke to tell us what actually happened? because i dont blame daron but i still dont know why they split. it could very well be because of him though.. he did write all of the songs and all of the lyrics but didnt get credit. i would have been kinda pissed too.


Well one thing you've gotta know is, Daron did NOT write all the lyrics for System. I've heard people saying that a lot, but I'm not sure where they get it from. He said he wrote the actually music/melody/structure for most of the songs. (this is backed up by the album notes) He was never really given any recognition for it by the fans. People just assumed Serj did everything, when in reality, he was just the main lyricist for the first 3 albums.

Now onto the hiatus. I'm not sure if I'm able to post the link to every interview they've had, but I'll sum it up, and feel free to look these things up.

When they first went on hiatus, Serj had expressed that he's wanted to go solo for years (even before Mez/Hyp). Before and after the release of his album, ETD, he's been hammering not only his somewhat "extremist" political beliefs, but his philosophical beliefs as well. Serj is the one who expressed his wanting to go solo to the band, and thus decided to part for awhile. You can find, in some Scars interview (more specifically the one in Amsterdam) Daron expressing how hard it for him to move on without System, for him he says, it was like changing his last name. Also, in the German "Rock Sound" magazine, he says he had no ambition to go solo because a project called "Daron Malakian" was just ridiculous.

Because of the privacy of the band, they've never given the specific reason as to why they went their separate ways other than "Creative Difference and wanting to try new things". Lately, Daron has been getting irritated by people asking him "When System is coming back together" because he didn't want System to break in the first place and people are acting like he wanted it to happen.

The true reason for the hiatus is far more admirable than the false reason people keep spewing out.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 01:13 pm / quote |
FenderMaster :
Kiffa wrote:

I loved the Scars album, but both Serj's and Daron's records both had something missing, Serj's was missing Daron and Daron's was missing Serj, simple as that.


couldnt have put it better!!

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 01:18 pm / quote |
Necrosaber :
^I also forgot to mention another important detail.

If you remember back to 2001, after the 9/11, Serj wrote an essay called "Understanding Oil" that was posted, WITHOUT CONSENT OF THE BAND, on their official website. Immediately, System got huge flack for it, being labeled as terrorists. It was then later taken down.

When Serj first started with his Elect the Dead campaign, that essay was immediately put up on his site. It's very realistic to think that his views, are not necessarily the views shared by all the band members. In these pivotal times, one would want to express their views on the world and all that's going on without restraint.

He couldn't do that in System, it wouldn't have been right. I respect him for that.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 01:21 pm / quote |
_GoingBlind_ :
Love System, like Serj in System, like SoB kinda, no like Serj solo. It's a shitty situation that the band members and fans are torn between. Just wish Daron would get more credit for his contributions, to many people give all System credit to Serj saying "he is SOAD", what bollocks.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 01:26 pm / quote |
Moggan13 :
Daron and Serj need each other. Kinda like in a gay way, minus the gay.

I kinda liked SOB and Serj's own stuff but it just did'nt have that edge that the whole band togather did.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:01 pm / quote |
 
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Checked
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:15 pm / quote |
llamaloser :
I got tickets to go to the calgary show. This Fucking Blows
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:15 pm / quote |
allareone_421 :
wow didn't take long to decide to cancel. Just saw the tour listed yesterday on livenation. i don't mind him not touring, a "break from System" should be just that... a break.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:24 pm / quote |
imthehitcher :


I loved the Scars album, but both Serj's and Daron's records both had something missing, Serj's was missing Daron and Daron's was missing Serj, simple as that.


this basically sums them up

Daron's catchy pop driven tunes lack serj's thoughtful lyrics and tempo shifts

and vice versa for serj

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
JPetrucci25 :
haha and whos complaining? news of system reuniting is good news. as for scars on broadway, wasnt anything special
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 02:57 pm / quote |
shotgunjoe :
I doubt this will end up with a System reunion, but I saw Scars and Daron didn't really seem into it, so I'm not surprised by this.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 03:01 pm / quote |
CHOCOmoney :
Sob was ok, the album really grew on me. Not very good writing but very catchy. but serjs album was better. Still hoping for a reunion
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 03:07 pm / quote |
PissInMyShoeses :
Wow, what an ass.
I feel bad for the people i know who bought tickets to this. Especially just 2 weeks before they played where i live.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:09 pm / quote |
areese82 :
Daron sucks. Serj rocks!!!
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:26 pm / quote |
-CH- :
They ****ing flip flop on every news bulletin they are, they arent, they are they should just make up their minds
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:36 pm / quote |
theshroomman :
NorCalLos wrote:

Put System back togehter, tour, and give each guy a slot in the show to play a couple of the songs from their solo albums. Problem solved.


Sounds good. for the common need.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:49 pm / quote |
therescue06 :
Macabre_Turtle wrote:

Cancel the whole band. It's so terrible. If I personally, were lucky, than SOB and Serj's solo stuff, would've made Daron realize how much he needs Serj.

Also, I have all the confidence that SOAD will get back together.


+1

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:52 pm / quote |
sowhat360 :
Necrosaber wrote:

I truly believe no one here ever even follows the news and status of each of the band members. I'm guessing most of you just assume the last 2 records triggered the hiatus and it's all Daron's fault. I advise you to do some research if you really care about the band. (System of a Down). The more you read both Serj's and Scars' interviews, the more you'll realize just what happened.

No one seems to want the truth though, they'd rather bask in ignorance because it's justify their senseless bashing.

A damn shame.


are you kidding me? bottom line...this guy was in 2 bands that broke up. i smell a huge ego problem.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 04:55 pm / quote |
jahyarain :
Necrosaber wrote:

It's very realistic to think that his views, are not necessarily the views shared by all the band members. In these pivotal times, one would want to express their views on the world and all that's going on without restraint.

He couldn't do that in System, it wouldn't have been right. I respect him for that.


wow. i must have imagined the essays on the first album as well as the lyrics on ALL of them.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 05:57 pm / quote |
Cannibalhell666 :
Well I hope S.O.A.D does get back we need them who ele's will sing songs of our government that going down to hell. Im guessing that they are going to end up like Nirvana but im not sure im just guessing but I hope it does not come down to that.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 06:06 pm / quote |
Necrosaber :
jahyarain wrote:

Necrosaber wrote:

It's very realistic to think that his views, are not necessarily the views shared by all the band members. In these pivotal times, one would want to express their views on the world and all that's going on without restraint.

He couldn't do that in System, it wouldn't have been right. I respect him for that.

wow. i must have imagined the essays on the first album as well as the lyrics on ALL of them.


I'm talking about the views he's expressing NOW are not shared by the members the the band.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 06:14 pm / quote |
joeybones :
good for Daron. There only good song was "chemicals". SOAD NEEDS TO JOIN TOGETHER AGAIN! They are my second favorite band and I never even saw them.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:18 pm / quote |
kevinsaturday :
to sowhat
you wanna talk about ego?
in glasgow, serj played an arena, scars played a club, scars were far better

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:27 pm / quote |
tancanada :
feh, i like SOB, but theyre no SOAD. both Serj and SOB by themselves are just missing the magic that SOAD had.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:28 pm / quote |
Tordyboi :
If people didnt download their music they would realize that the credit was given in the booklet of the cd's. If you have the booklet for the Toxicity Cd, you would know that the credits is given on the page with the lyrics. There you will find who wrote lyrics and music.
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:38 pm / quote |
thetonto :
THE BULGE wrote:

well ive met serj daron and john at thier solo shows and i asked darren what his plans were going to be he said hes gonna push this album and then when i mentioned sysem he said they would probs do that again and seemed really enthusiastic about it. thats from the man himself so.. lol not much else to say. cars serj and system all rock.


ah im sorry for digging this up, but i just found it too funny! btw im elton john 4real lolz

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:48 pm / quote |
sowhat360 :
kevinsaturday wrote:

to sowhat
you wanna talk about ego?
in glasgow, serj played an arena, scars played a club, scars were far better


and now he's not into it....

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:50 pm / quote |
Necrosaber :
thetonto wrote:

THE BULGE wrote:

well ive met serj daron and john at thier solo shows and i asked darren what his plans were going to be he said hes gonna push this album and then when i mentioned sysem he said they would probs do that again and seemed really enthusiastic about it. thats from the man himself so.. lol not much else to say. cars serj and system all rock.

ah im sorry for digging this up, but i just found it too funny! btw im elton john 4real lolz


Daron and the other band members. Talk to their fans before and after their shows all the time.

Try again please.

sowhat360 wrote:

kevinsaturday wrote:

to sowhat
you wanna talk about ego?
in glasgow, serj played an arena, scars played a club, scars were far better

and now he's not into it....


A Message From Daron

I've read many of your postings and I owe it to all of you to respond:

I understand all of your frustration and anger, and I never meant to let any of you down. Your support for Scars has been so important to me and the band. I would never cancel a tour unless I had real reasons and personal things that require my undivided attention. The music of Scars will live on, but now is a time when aspects of my life need to be tended to. I hope all of you can understand.

-Daron

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 09:04 pm / quote |
Tedward :
personally i think Darons voice is more quality than Serj (live), however recorded they really need eachother.


im really pissed they arent going to tour its like my dream to go to a SOAD, SoB, or Serj show.

POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 10:43 pm / quote |
serjYankovic :
...and i was ACTUALLY going to see them...
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 11:40 pm / quote |
Deacon Blues :
scars aint even close to system of a downs greatness
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 11:53 pm / quote |
guylee :
i think both bands need to just stop...
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 12:33 am / quote |
 
 m 
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Checked!
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 12:34 am / quote |
Josh Shiells :
I read about this a little bit ago.

I wonder what's happening with Daron right now?
And how does John feel about this?

I don't know if System will reform right now.
This seems a little bit negative.

I loved Serj and Scars on Broadway, but, as anyone would say, I still love SOAD more, and love them just as much as I did 10 years ago.

I can't wait to see what happens now for Malakian and Dolmayan.

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 01:04 am / quote |
DartS17 :
sowhat360 wrote:
are you kidding me? bottom line...this guy was in 2 bands that broke up. i smell a huge ego problem.[/quote]
lol, learn to read, neither band broke up, but i agree he may have a bit of an ego problem, but that's just how he struck me

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 01:16 am / quote |
DirkLance :
I think he's just perfecting his Billy Gibbons look from ZZ Top. He'll be back once he gets it down.
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 02:59 am / quote |
dupaman :
lets all hope SOAD reunites
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 03:24 am / quote |
DavidBenyamin :
Actually Daron wrote 9/10 lyrics for system. I really dont understand why people are denieying that. You can even read that on the actual album covers. Anyone denying it prob doesnt have the album and downloaded it. On toxicity for example it says serj only wrote 2 of the lyrics.

And by the way I think Scars on Broadway is a way better album then the last 2 from soad. I liekd the first 2 albums, Hyp/Mez just had some not so good shit on it aswell. SoB is a great record, where Daron is clearly influenced by the beatles. I love it.

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 04:08 am / quote |
urf_ :
They'd better still be doing Soundwave in february...
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 05:07 am / quote |
juzcook :
hope this doesnt interrupt them performing at soundwave in aus in feb :O but still... bring back system!!
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 05:07 am / quote |
AidanTDR :
The only way Daron can excuse this is if SOAD get back together, because in my opinion, hes cancelling an entire tour because he couldn't bothered doing it. Sure he may have enough money now that he doesn't need to play shows, but more than anything else hes showing a huge lack of respect for the fans. personally im not a Scars fan, but i do love SOAD, and i think Daron needs to get his ego under control!
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 05:09 am / quote |
Andy2k64 :
They had pretty low ticket sales apparently. its a shame really. no1 wants anything new they just want system all over again!
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 06:31 am / quote |
 
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checked
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 07:19 am / quote |
Necrosaber :
DavidBenyamin wrote:

Actually Daron wrote 9/10 lyrics for system. I really dont understand why people are denieying that. You can even read that on the actual album covers. Anyone denying it prob doesnt have the album and downloaded it. On toxicity for example it says serj only wrote 2 of the lyrics.


Wrong wrong wrong. Will you LOOK at the album notes? I'm looking at 'em right now. People need to give Daron credit where he deserves. That's in the MUSIC. No denying that. Saying he wrote all the lyrics is ridiculous.

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 09:43 am / quote |
mr staind :
you all say about daron and serj but you forget shavo.He is currently working to release the first album of his new band(achozen-hip hop,rock with the Wu-Tang clan)and i dont think he would like to join system.NOW, a new thing about tankian,he released a new track called 'lazarus on down'.Check it
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 09:59 am / quote |
brantley23 :
lazarus on down is a tom morello (nightwatchman) song off of his new cd "The Fabled City" it is NOT a serj tankian song, serj is simply featured on it
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:26 am / quote |
GHOST_OF_WAR :
dang i was gonna see em next year too or whenver they came around here...hopefully he'll change his mind and after this tour go back to system. then they will make a more groundbreaking album than their others
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:34 am / quote |
mr staind :
ok brantley23 you are right but if tankian is featured it must be included in the library of real soad fans
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:36 am / quote |
mr staind :
shavo is a junky,
daron the same
but serj and john are the clear people!

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:38 am / quote |
mr staind :
is anyone from here from greece;

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:39 am / quote |
mr staind :
hp/mz is better than scars on broadway album
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:39 am / quote |
I_Make_Odd_Tabs :
Please be a sign System is going to start working on a new album.
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:40 am / quote |
mr staind :
haha never again a soad album
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:43 am / quote |
mr staind :
malakian will die like kobain you will all see
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:43 am / quote |
StereoFlare :
In other words: "I put all of my time into this new CD that was way oer-hyped and it's not selling as good as SOAD, so a tour with them would make more sense." Pardon my skepticism but I'm a SOAD fan and I can't stand SOB, so this, to me, is good news.
POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 10:54 am / quote |
Carlord :
juzcook wrote:

hope this doesnt interrupt them performing at soundwave in aus in feb :O but still... bring back system!!


They aren't.

As was said on the forums "Harden the **** up Daron"

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 11:23 am / quote |
superjoint2112 :
Necrosaber :
DavidBenyamin wrote:

Actually Daron wrote 9/10 lyrics for system. I really dont understand why people are denieying that. You can even read that on the actual album covers. Anyone denying it prob doesnt have the album and downloaded it. On toxicity for example it says serj only wrote 2 of the lyrics.


Wrong wrong wrong. Will you LOOK at the album notes? I'm looking at 'em right now. People need to give Daron credit where he deserves. That's in the MUSIC. No denying that. Saying he wrote all the lyrics is ridiculous.
yeah he co-wrote a couple of the songs on toxicity buty our right he did most of the music..but lok at hypnotize/mesmerize darron wrote a **** of alot more lyrics then Serj

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 11:37 am / quote |
Necrosaber :
mr staind wrote:

shavo is a junky,
daron the same
but serj and john are the clear people!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sni4Jokq7 o

Sure.

POSTED: 10/08/2008 - 11:48 am / quote |
mr staind :
necrosaber you are an idiot
POSTED: 10/09/2008 - 11:13 am / quote |
mr staind :
hey necrosaber HOW DO YOU KNOW SO MANY THINGS ABOUT SOAD,GIVE US YOUR SOURCES AND ALSO DO YOU BELIEVE TAHT THERE WILL BE A SOAD REUNION;
POSTED: 10/09/2008 - 11:30 am / quote |
Necrosaber :
Because I actually follow the band and read the interviews. If you go to the SOADfans forums, you'll find a collection of most of their interviews there. Along with all my sources. If you want the truth, it's easy to find. A lot of people are making up things they believe to be true and giving this information to people who aren't aware. They tell it to people, and the cycle continues.

If you actually gave a damn about the band and actually READ the interviews, you would know what was going on. You said Serj was clean, but anyone who follows them knows that's not true. Only John seems to be drug free.

And to your reunion question, I have no doubt in my mind they'll be a reunion. I just don't think it'll be anytime soon, as ALL of them keep telling people.

POSTED: 10/12/2008 - 12:44 am / quote |
mr staind :
i didn't say that serj was not a junky but 8 months ago he gave up smoking and i thought he would give up drugs.what's your opinion necrosaber;can u give me the year that soad will be back;
POSTED: 10/16/2008 - 11:26 am / quote |
Yumatira :
Necrosaber wrote:

I truly believe no one here ever even follows the news and status of each of the band members. I'm guessing most of you just assume the last 2 records triggered the hiatus and it's all Daron's fault. I advise you to do some research if you really care about the band. (System of a Down). The more you read both Serj's and Scars' interviews, the more you'll realize just what happened.

No one seems to want the truth though, they'd rather bask in ignorance because it's justify their senseless bashing.

A damn shame.


If you really cared, you would know, Serj wanted to go Solo, Daron just had to make music, he had a band name, he had material, Scars on Broadway was reborn

Also, for mr staind, there is no date that System is coming back, they say they come back, but it could be next year of over 5 years, they don't know

Scources could be: http://www.soadfans.com (especcially the forums) and for dutch/belgium peeps http://www.systemofadown.be

POSTED: 10/30/2008 - 06:47 pm / quote |
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