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Buckcherry Glad To Be Black Butterfly |
| artist: buckcherry |
date: 09/16/2008 |
category: video news |
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Buckcherry are set to release their highly anticipated follow up to 2006's "15" which was certified platinum and was nominated for a Grammy while spawning the hits "Crazy Bitch" and "Sorry." After going on a hiatus in 2002 while lead vocalist and guitarist took some time away to regroup, they came back with a vengeance with "15" and now the band looks to build off their amazing momentum.
We caught up with Todd and Nelson to get their thoughts on approaching " Black Butterfly" with an us against the world perspective and why they are continuing to benefit from being the black sheep of Rock N Roll.
"(Todd) It's always been that with Buckcherry. We've been the black sheep of Rock n Roll for so long now. We always have that mentality in our approach of everything. In our live shows, everything, making the record doing press, all of that." "(Nelson) I don't think we've ever really truly been embraced by a lot of our peers, you know and a lot of the mainstream media outlets, magazines and television shows. They just decided that we don't exist and that's fine. It doesn't change what we want to do and it doesn't change what we're doing. It actually just fuels us to stay on and prove them all wrong. So, in a way being the black sheep is working to our advantage because it really does inspire us to stay at it and work harder."
"Black Butterfly" is scheduled to be released September 16th and the band will start their tour in support of the new album September 13th in Indiana and the tour extends until October 26th in Japan. The tour was initially scheduled to include Avenged Sevenfold, but due to Matt Shadows undisclosed vocal condition, they will no longer be a part of Buckcherry's headlining tour.
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Dale_By_Blimp
: No takers? Right-o.... how can Buckcherry possibly be the "black sheep of rock 'n roll" when they are so generic?POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 09:50 am / quote |
FenderKid87
: Because they don't get any radio or tv coverage....
"Sorry" was the only damn thing I heard for 3 ****ing months every time I rode in someones car who listened to top 40. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 10:03 am / quote |
NSixx136
: they have an amazing live show, cruefest was awesome!POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 10:15 am / quote |
iksero
: yea, they are definately full of it. they are pretty much the epitomy of generic commercialized "bad boys playing rock." Sorry fellas, it's already been done. How about trying to write lyrics about something other than being "too drunk to ****." i don't understand why people like them, josh todd sounds like a prepubescent boy who did a lot of drugs. Ok, that may have been a little bad, and i'm sorry. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 10:51 am / quote |
Suav Nitebeest
: Title sucks, band is extremely generic. I thought we were done with power ballads.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 11:34 am / quote |
slashVR
: ^ I don't understand why you guys would read a piece of news when you don't even like the band/topic that its about. All you do is post these negative comments, whats the point?
Anyways, I do enjoy Buckcherry and can't wait to get out and hear the new album!POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:00 pm / quote |
SERIALTRENDKILL
: black sheep? they've been mainstream for quite some time. They are the best mainstream band out though besides A7x. I'll give them that much. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:05 pm / quote |
zapatista89
: that title is absolute herrendousPOSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:12 pm / quote |
redhotsexmagic
: can't really say i like this band at all..singers voice sounds like he forcing some spoof rock voice (like chad kroeger maybe?) but still gotta give em credit for making music and theres people out there who like it so keep it up.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:17 pm / quote |
thedarkblues06
: SERIALTRENDKILL wrote:
black sheep? they've been mainstream for quite some time. They are the best mainstream band out though besides A7x. I'll give them that much. |
Yeah, I don't think they are that bad at all, then again, I only put down the mainstream for their repetitiveness, so I don't think ALL mainstream music is bad. In my opinion, A7X and Buckcherry are two good music groups IN the mainstream genre.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:18 pm / quote |
epyonz
: I thought 15 was a good album but the best tracks weren't the singles and their first album was so much betterPOSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:50 pm / quote |
sav46e
: best band everPOSTED: 09/16/2008 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Social D Rox
: quit criticizing if you just listen to their singles. no one talks about time bomb! listen to that album and tell me they are generic. give me a break. and their first self titled album was excellent. not a bad track on either of those albums. they put on a great live show as well. keep it up guys. new album sounds great! not sure i like the title though. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 02:30 pm / quote |
CommunistBear
: Suav Nitebeest wrote:
Title sucks, band is extremely generic. I thought we were done with power ballads. |
Haha, nope sorry sir as long as people keep buying into that crap it'll keep getting put out.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 03:06 pm / quote |
Beernuts86
: The Josh Todd solo album, 'You Made Me', is so much better than anything Buckcherry has ever done. You guys should check that album out.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 03:08 pm / quote |
toaster_poodle
: I actually like them quite a bit. Their singles do get old but songs like Onset, Carousel, and Sunshine from 15 and then some of their latest stuff is really good "throwback" type rock. I'm gonna wait until I hear some more of the new songs, but I'll probably buy the new album eventually. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 03:28 pm / quote |
DirkLance
: iksero wrote:
yea, they are definately full of it. they are pretty much the epitomy of generic commercialized "bad boys playing rock." Sorry fellas, it's already been done. How about trying to write lyrics about something other than being "too drunk to ****." i don't understand why people like them, josh todd sounds like a prepubescent boy who did a lot of drugs. Ok, that may have been a little bad, and i'm sorry. |
Lol, you're SORRY! I c wut u did thar.
P.S. I don't like BuckCherry either, I'm glad most of UG sees through the crap.POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 03:49 pm / quote |
Spay
: I love Buckcherry. But they do have a habit of releasing extremely annoying singles.
I kept hoping they would release a song like "Brooklyn" or "Carousal" as a single. Those were great songs on '15', but they chose "Sorry" a song even I don't like. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 04:07 pm / quote |
Johnonon
: Dale_By_Blimp wrote:
No takers? Right-o.... how can Buckcherry possibly be the "black sheep of rock 'n roll" when they are so generic? |
Thank You! I'm glad you see how fake they are
The suck live tooPOSTED: 09/16/2008 - 05:07 pm / quote |
Powerchild
: I think you guys are really critical when it comes to music. you overgeneralize so much based on their two overplayed songs that you don't realize that they have some other good tunes.
I'd also have to say that they are the OPPOSITE of what is commercial music- in that, they aren't playing songs that sound like staind, and korn, and crossfade, and 30 seconds to mars. Those are bands that sell out.
I think that they do really well at what they do- I really think they have some very creative songs. I know josh todd's voice does have some limitations, but seriously, they are pretty creative.
On the subject of his lyrics, I think a lot of it is about his life before, and how carefree it was- he is really trying to capture that feeling- that's part of Buckcherry. Even though it's raunchy as shit, look at Guns and Roses- Everyone loved them (myself EXCLUDED). but I say give the guys respect. A lot of radios refuse to put their music on because it challenges our societal norms. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 05:32 pm / quote |
tbarrettl
: Powerchild wrote:
I think you guys are really critical when it comes to music. you overgeneralize so much based on their two overplayed songs that you don't realize that they have some other good tunes.
I'd also have to say that they are the OPPOSITE of what is commercial music- in that, they aren't playing songs that sound like staind, and korn, and crossfade, and 30 seconds to mars. Those are bands that sell out.
I think that they do really well at what they do- I really think they have some very creative songs. I know josh todd's voice does have some limitations, but seriously, they are pretty creative.
On the subject of his lyrics, I think a lot of it is about his life before, and how carefree it was- he is really trying to capture that feeling- that's part of Buckcherry. Even though it's raunchy as shit, look at Guns and Roses- Everyone loved them (myself EXCLUDED). but I say give the guys respect. A lot of radios refuse to put their music on because it challenges our societal norms. |
They sound like Nickleback, Hinder, 3 days Grace, 3 Doors Down, Theory of a Deadman, Staind and Crossfade minus subject matter, and Bush who sound practically the same. POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 08:54 pm / quote |
b r y a n
: From article:
The tour was initially scheduled to include Avenged Sevenfold, but due to Matt Shadows undisclosed vocal condition, they will no longer be a part of Buckcherry's headlining tour. |
Did he finally realize he can't sing?POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 09:06 pm / quote |
Strausser33
: i think the guitarists complement each other very well.....i personally dont like slow songs but lit up was good crazy bitch was overplayed but still the singer has a grungy voice and the guitarists bust out good leads and riffs
nuff said cuz all you guys ditchin them your just mad bc they kick ass.....if u dont like em dont read the dam post about them!!!!!POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 12:36 am / quote |
genresrforposer
: tbarrettl wrote:
Powerchild wrote:
I think you guys are really critical when it comes to music. you overgeneralize so much based on their two overplayed songs that you don't realize that they have some other good tunes.
I'd also have to say that they are the OPPOSITE of what is commercial music- in that, they aren't playing songs that sound like staind, and korn, and crossfade, and 30 seconds to mars. Those are bands that sell out.
I think that they do really well at what they do- I really think they have some very creative songs. I know josh todd's voice does have some limitations, but seriously, they are pretty creative.
On the subject of his lyrics, I think a lot of it is about his life before, and how carefree it was- he is really trying to capture that feeling- that's part of Buckcherry. Even though it's raunchy as shit, look at Guns and Roses- Everyone loved them (myself EXCLUDED). but I say give the guys respect. A lot of radios refuse to put their music on because it challenges our societal norms.
They sound like Nickleback, Hinder, 3 days Grace, 3 Doors Down, Theory of a Deadman, Staind and Crossfade minus subject matter, and Bush who sound practically the same. |
Agreed on all points save for Bush (though generic they're more akin to Nirvana and actually kind of did new and good things with that style), n you forgot SeetherPOSTED: 09/17/2008 - 01:16 am / quote |
Big Spender
: I don't mind it, some of the lyrics are a bit cheap but it's all good fun. Nothing wildly original but I'm not looking for music to save the world just something to entertain me for a bit and I'm sure with a couple more listens the new album will do just that.POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 03:44 am / quote |
concept:one
: They're rubbish. They (like most other bands that sell well these days) use bland, generic, easy-to-listen-to rock music to snare in the crowd with the highest demographic - kids with allowances, jobs and f*** all to spend it on. Just like the british boybands of the 90s, they project the image of being "bad boys" when in fact everything about them is manufactured. I very much doubt they even write their own songs at home with a guitar and the back of a pizza box.
And all this s*** about not getting played? If theyre getting played over here in GB then they must be getting airtime in the states. There are plenty of awesome bands of all genres that don't get played because there music doesnt appeal to a wide-enough audience - that is, only appeals to real music lovers rather than tenny-bopper kids that use music to dictate every aspect of their life and character.
People saying things like "its all good fun" etc. are right to a degree - I can appreciate that the songs can be fun to sing along or to have on at a bar or party (although god knows not the kind of places I go) but if thats what theyre aiming at then they shouldnt be projecting this image of the "bad boys of rock". Its puerile and a callous marketing tool. POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 05:12 am / quote |
Moonman13
: Man, I thought I was the only one annoyed by these yahoo's. Im glad to see their arrogance has not gone unnoticed. POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 09:16 am / quote |
Powerchild
: concept:one wrote:
They're rubbish. They (like most other bands that sell well these days) use bland, generic, easy-to-listen-to rock music to snare in the crowd with the highest demographic - kids with allowances, jobs and f*** all to spend it on. Just like the british boybands of the 90s, they project the image of being "bad boys" when in fact everything about them is manufactured. I very much doubt they even write their own songs at home with a guitar and the back of a pizza box.
And all this s*** about not getting played? If theyre getting played over here in GB then they must be getting airtime in the states. There are plenty of awesome bands of all genres that don't get played because there music doesnt appeal to a wide-enough audience - that is, only appeals to real music lovers rather than tenny-bopper kids that use music to dictate every aspect of their life and character.
People saying things like "its all good fun" etc. are right to a degree - I can appreciate that the songs can be fun to sing along or to have on at a bar or party (although god knows not the kind of places I go) but if thats what theyre aiming at then they shouldnt be projecting this image of the "bad boys of rock". Its puerile and a callous marketing tool. |
Man, let me just say that first off, They are doing everything that rock music is about. Second of all, I think everyone in this chat room who is a hater IS A HATER because they don't embrace the individuality of music- the music with soul.
Let me just say something right here- IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL THAT ROCK AND ROLL IS. that statement isn't meant to discourage anyone, but to inspire. That being said, the only way to make YOUR OWN MUSIC is write and BE YOURSELF- HAVE YOUR STYLE SHOW THROUGH. With Buckcherry, their style is in my own opinion, one that is very pseudo- but I think they do it on purpose. I don't really believe in lyrics that say "I love the cocaine" or "you **** so good I'm on top of it"- I enjoy the rock for what it is- creative riffs that have been given a modern kind of vintage fresh outlook. While I honestly without a doubt in my mind do believe that everyone in that band has been on drugs at one point, I believe that now they are looking back and mocking that part of society. I think that is rock and roll to me.
Furthermore, I would like to say when you trash them by saying they don't write their own music- DUDE GET A CLUE! EVERYTHING and I MEAN EVERYTHING IN THERE COLLECTION HAS AT LEAST JOSH TODD AND KEITH NELSON'S NAME ON IT. hell, they even have song credits on Velvet Revolver's "Dirty Little Thing" (i think that's the song they wrote). SO DON'T SIT THERE AND INSULT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 11:22 am / quote |
MantlePicture
: | tbarrettlThey sound like Nickleback, Hinder, 3 days Grace, 3 Doors Down, Theory of a Deadman, Staind and Crossfade minus subject matter, and Bush who sound practically the same. |
Wow... have you ever even listened to a Buckcherry record? If anything, they sound like Kiss and AC/DC(even to the point where they lift a few riffs, but who hasn't ripped off another band?).
I met and hung out with these guys back in 2005 when 15 was first released(in Japan), and they were ANYTHING but mainstream. I recall one show only having 6 people show up. It was rare to see a show with more than 300 people at it. The success they are having right now has been earned through HARDCORE touring. Seriously, these guys lived on the road from 2005-2007, only taking a few months to write a new album, and now they're back on the road again. Say what you will about the band, but playing 300 shows in support of an album that is all but ignored by the mainstream(until Sorry was released, after they'd been touring two years) takes serious dedication and passion.
Buckcherry have been working their asses off for a long time, and has been overlooked forever. Time Bomb, despite being an incredible album filled with solid songs, is all but forgotten because no one would play them. So go ahead and hate on them because Sorry is popular, but they've put up with a lot of shit to get where they are.POSTED: 10/19/2008 - 10:45 am / quote |
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