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Five Finger Death Punch To Emo, Carry Pantera Torch? |
| artist: five finger death punch |
date: 11/21/2008 |
category: video news |
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Five Finger Death Punch has been working tirelessly for more than a year and now it's beginning to pay off. Vocalist Ivan and crew are supporting The Way Of The Fist, and they've been slowly building their following to be one of Heavy Metal's biggest bands. Five Finger Death Punch consistently sells 4,000 to 5,000 copies a week and the album has never left the Billboard 200 album charts. The success of the album is prompting a worldwide release for January 19.
For those with some heavy music pedigree, the band's sound is similar to the roar and clash of old school and new school sounds created by Pantera, and in a previous interview the band said that's fine with them.
[Zoltan] "I'm sure there are people that feel the same way, 'Like where the hell did metal go?' There are metal bands out there now, great metal bands, but nobody's in that bracket of mainstream - I'm not talking about the sell-out mainstream, but I'm talking about the mainstream that is capable of reaching (a wider audience). Let me put it this way: I don't like the idea of some cheesy, stupid emo band influencing this new generation. When I was a kid and I looked up to these big metal bands, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and whatnot, Pantera, Metallica, I was like 'Wow, man. That's what I wanna be.' I have a hard time to imagine some kid looking up onstage with some weak like dude, some dorky guy, being..." [Ivan] "It's like, 'Daddy never loved me enough...'" [Zoltan] "Yeah, it's like, 'Dude, grow some balls,' you know?"
Five Finger Death Punch is currently touring the west coast, with dates wrapping up December 4 in San Diego, California.
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kylen13
: Fuck yeah totally agree grow so ****ing balls POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 07:04 am / quote |
Phe4rTheGod
: This band sounds nothing like Pantera, there is absolutely no originality...more like a new metal core washed out band...
I do like his view about crap emo...pretty funny, although they're pretty close to being whiny themselves...POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 08:14 am / quote |
jefffelker40
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
This band sounds nothing like Pantera, there is absolutely no originality...more like a new metal core washed out band...
He's not comparing himself to pantera, and have you ever heard vocals like like ivan's? how is that unoriginal?
I do like his view about crap emo...pretty funny, although they're pretty close to being whiny themselves... | POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 09:56 am / quote |
Phe4rTheGod
: Yes I have heard his generic style of singing...he is NOTHING original...Blythe is original, Fafara is original, 'ivan' is the same rehash of crap...POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 10:57 am / quote |
lilboisX3
: No one should ever compare themselves to pantera period. Pantera are terrible.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 11:52 am / quote |
Sir_Rowsty
: lilboisX3 :
No one should ever compare themselves to pantera period. Pantera are terrible.
...ly goodPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 11:58 am / quote |
MXFNCK
: awesome band, I really dig their albumPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 12:09 pm / quote |
jefffelker40
: he didn't compare himself to pantera, get off panteras dickPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 12:25 pm / quote |
GuilT
: I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 12:42 pm / quote |
im not mental
: i saw em at the mayhem tour over the summer.
absolute rubbish. and they told their fans to flip off the people who were waiting at the next stage for black tide. i thought that was really unprofessional. (even though it was black tide...)POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 12:52 pm / quote |
fr33t0m
: Just listened to a couple songs by them... they are pretty bad. They are definitely not carrying on Pantera's "torch" in any way. Funny how they put emo singing parts in their songs too, then they go and flame emo crap.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 01:54 pm / quote |
AVIDFANOFSOUNDS
: Why is everyone so aginst emo, there are some great emo bands: Fugzai, Sunny day real estate, biffy clyro, and they all own these losersPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 02:02 pm / quote |
Gunpowder
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
AVIDFANOFSOUNDS wrote:
Why is everyone so aginst emo, there are some great emo bands: Fugzai, Sunny day real estate, biffy clyro, and they all own these losers
This made me lol...'great emo bands' isn't comprehensible... |
If you've never heard the bands but are just going on preconceived notions, you have no right to speak against them. The bands AVIDFANOFSOUNDS listed are all really good emo bands, IMO.
I lost respect for 5FDP on reading what they said. There's nothing wrong with emo; if it's not to their taste, they can keep their mouths shut. Why be a dick about it? It's ****ing music.
Steve Vai had it right; "music is an art form. No one has the right to say,'Our noise is better than their noise.' It's totally relative."POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 02:24 pm / quote |
AVIDFANOFSOUNDS
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
And that's why Vai is a douche...thanks for reminding me...and again, there's no such thing as 'good emo bands'...what the f*ck is wrong with kids nowadays??? |
Turn up and listen
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p0b1FgWrj3oPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 02:33 pm / quote |
LegsOnEarth
: yet another terrible pointless headline?POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 02:55 pm / quote |
lilboisX3
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Phe4rTheGod wrote:
lilboisX3 wrote:
Yea...because Pantera is more than one band...learn grammar before you announce that you have no clue about anything...thx... |
Pantera is a band consisting of more than one person. Hence "are."
you ****ing dolt.
The devil wears prada is just as dumb a name as FFDP. Actually the whole mainstream metal thing is a joke. Look how many watered down acts like this band exist. But on the bright side of things. At least all the terrible shit is contained. POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 02:59 pm / quote |
lilboisX3
: GuilT wrote:
I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest. |
What ****ing tourch does Pantera hold? They Couldn't hold a tourch to Death, Atheist, Cynic and so on. POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:03 pm / quote |
strat0blaster
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
Yes I have heard his generic style of singing...he is NOTHING original...Blythe is original, Fafara is original, 'ivan' is the same rehash of crap... |
Yeah - I've never heard ANYONE scream or growl before Lamb of God or Coal Chamber did it. Those intrepid pioneers!!
Don't be stupid - everything's been done. All that's left is to do it your way.
These guys are doing their thing. Let them do it, and if you don't like it, don't listen.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:18 pm / quote |
GibsonVdude
: lilboisX3 :
GuilT wrote:
I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest.
What ****ing tourch does Pantera hold? They Couldn't hold a tourch to Death, Atheist, Cynic and so on.
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those are two totally different sub-genres.. you cant compare them. although i dont disagree with your point that those are great bandsPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:29 pm / quote |
GuilT
: lilboisX3 wrote:
GuilT wrote:
I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest.
What ****ing tourch does Pantera hold? They Couldn't hold a tourch to Death, Atheist, Cynic and so on. | None of the bands you just named have shit on Pantera, sure they may be heavier, but no one is gonna remeber those guys when their, Pantera made a major impact on heavy metal. I'd be willing to bet money the bands you just named listen and were influenced by Pantera. Pantera's legacy has been set in stone dude, they are pioneers.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:33 pm / quote |
GibsonVdude
: noo im pretty sure people WILL remember death... seeing they were one of the first, if not the first, pioneers of death metalPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:38 pm / quote |
GuilT
: Pantera was not death metal.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:39 pm / quote |
yutyoy
: i think its lame how everything has to be categorized. i.e. Metal or Emo or Pop or whatever. music doesnt need a label. it should be created to entertain. so why flame an entire genre? there is good stuff in almost every genre. so for 5FDP: why look up to an image? id rather look up to the music that the artist makes. not what he looks like or if hes a nerd or a meathead or a punk or whatever.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:42 pm / quote |
GuilT
: If you speak in terms as "metal" as basically covering all genres of metal? Then yeah Pantera would be way on top of that pile over Death, in termes of Death metal, sure Pantera isn't as good, but um, uh, they never were death metal.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:42 pm / quote |
GibsonVdude
: if you would read my comment above the one you posted i alread explained that... im just saying people will remember Death. dont get me wrong i love panteraPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 03:42 pm / quote |
Phe4rTheGod
: strat0blaster wrote:
Yeah - I've never heard ANYONE scream or growl before Lamb of God or Coal Chamber did it. Those intrepid pioneers!!
Don't be stupid - everything's been done. All that's left is to do it your way.
These guys are doing their thing. Let them do it, and if you don't like it, don't listen. |
I said 'original' as in unique, not 'inventors' or 'pioneers', people have been doing this since early 80s...so suck it easy fagpop...
lilboisX3 wrote:
Pantera is a band consisting of more than one person. Hence "are."
you ****ing dolt.
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Very good, looks like you attempted to learn something, but Pantera is ONE band, not five, I'd break it down for you, but it's obvious you don't retain the proper amount of intelligence to hold it all in...also I liked how you tried to delete your post to conceal how dumb you are , hilarious...
Also the lil spat between Death and Pantera seems pointless...Death will not be remembered or held as highly by so many, but only due to the fact that they're death metal...both are great bands, but Pantera is a bit more easier to listen to...POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 04:19 pm / quote |
Anjohl
: Emo has become so mixed up in this generation...people think its about self mutilation and dark clothing..that's goth. Emo is sweater vests and talking about your feelings, in essence, a modified version of metrosexual. And it's all rubbish. Kudos to the band for taking the fight to the kids who are in a position to be influenced by this drivel.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 04:38 pm / quote |
royalrocker311
: Why don't you guys stop hating on each other. Who cares?.. Sheesh.
I just looked up these guys, they sound pretty cool. Th eonly things that gets on my nerves is their vocalist screaming so much. 'Waking the Fallen' by Avenged Sevenfold is a metal album that I can listen to, because there's a good balance of singing and screaming. But if the screaming overrules, I'm probably not interested.
I'll give these guys a chance though. :]POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 04:52 pm / quote |
Vampiric Virus
: Emo is nothing like that. Emo is short for emotional hardcore. It's not this mainstream shit.
I lost a little respect for him.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 05:19 pm / quote |
Genital Ben
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
AVIDFANOFSOUNDS wrote:
Why is everyone so aginst emo, there are some great emo bands: Fugzai, Sunny day real estate, biffy clyro, and they all own these losers
This made me lol...'great emo bands' isn't comprehensible... |
Wow, shows your intelligence. I think even the people that absolutely HATE Emo would say the same.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 05:35 pm / quote |
Genital Ben
: lilboisX3 wrote:
Phe4rTheGod wrote:
lilboisX3 wrote:
Yea...because Pantera is more than one band...learn grammar before you announce that you have no clue about anything...thx...
Pantera is a band consisting of more than one person. Hence "are."
you ****ing dolt.
The devil wears prada is just as dumb a name as FFDP. Actually the whole mainstream metal thing is a joke. Look how many watered down acts like this band exist. But on the bright side of things. At least all the terrible shit is contained. |
You can't deny the fact that you KNOW The Devil Wears Prada would own these mother ****ers.
I thinks its funny how UG edits what he really says when its in quotes as to the video so he doesn't sound like an illiterate foreign bitch. hahaPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 05:38 pm / quote |
Genital Ben
: The other guy is %100 correct! All emo is is "My dady never loved me enough!" man hes soooo right!
Such a moron I cant even comprehend it. I can't even put it into words.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 05:40 pm / quote |
cliffemall123
: GuilT wrote:
lilboisX3 wrote:
GuilT wrote:
I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest.
What ****ing tourch does Pantera hold? They Couldn't hold a tourch to Death, Atheist, Cynic and so on.
None of the bands you just named have shit on Pantera, sure they may be heavier, but no one is gonna remeber those guys when their, Pantera made a major impact on heavy metal. I'd be willing to bet money the bands you just named listen and were influenced by Pantera. Pantera's legacy has been set in stone dude, they are pioneers. |
You don't know what you are talking about. Death, Atheist, and Cynic all have way more talent than Pantera and were not influenced by Pantera at all. They were all around during the same time as Pantera. Not to mention, those bands have influenced countless have great bands, while Pantera has influenced countless of shitty bands.Sure, Pantera has some good songs, but you have to admit they influenced a lot of crappy bands such as these guys. And maybe the bands he named won't be remembered by the mainstream as well as Pantera, but for the underground they will be remembered as some of the most influencial metal bands ever. GuilT wrote:
If you speak in terms as "metal" as basically covering all genres of metal? Then yeah Pantera would be way on top of that pile over Death, in termes of Death metal, sure Pantera isn't as good, but um, uh, they never were death metal. |
Wrong again. Pantera may have covered hair metal and groove metal(neither genre is that good), but Death covered death metal, progressive death metal, and straight up prog metal. POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 05:51 pm / quote |
GuilT
: I definetly see your point man, but your comparing apples and oranges, these bands are separated by genre, but in the grand scheme of things, Pantera is one of the best all around metal bands ever. I'm talking metal as a whole, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Slayer, you know "the" pioneers. You can lump Pantera in that group, granted they are more mainstream. Sure Death is good, but you'll find only a small contingency of people who have even heard of them, which doesn't take away from their greatness or the fact that they rule their genre. Pantera started out a bunch of fags playing basically glam, but when they got their shit together, they were the best.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 06:18 pm / quote |
cliffemall123
: GuilT wrote:
I definetly see your point man, but your comparing apples and oranges, these bands are separated by genre, but in the grand scheme of things, Pantera is one of the best all around metal bands ever. I'm talking metal as a whole, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Slayer, you know "the" pioneers. You can lump Pantera in that group, granted they are more mainstream. Sure Death is good, but you'll find only a small contingency of people who have even heard of them, which doesn't take away from their greatness or the fact that they rule their genre. Pantera started out a bunch of fags playing basically glam, but when they got their shit together, they were the best. |
Yeah, I see what you are saying. You can't really compare them, like you said.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 06:56 pm / quote |
NorfIrIon
: lilboisX3 wrote:
No one should ever compare themselves to pantera period. Pantera are terrible. |
Yeah, I've never heard these guys, really, but now that I know they want to sound like Pantera I'm not even going to bother.POSTED: 11/21/2008 - 06:58 pm / quote |
DOOdooroCK
: "daddy never loved me enough!" that was funnyPOSTED: 11/21/2008 - 08:09 pm / quote |
IlikeMetal
: Genital Ben wrote:
So then would you say the Yankees is playing the Rays? No? That's what I thought. Fucking Dipshit. |
The Yankees is plural, as it refers to a group of people. Pantera is a single entity, as it refers to ONLY the band itself, and as such is singular.
Please, stay in school.POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 01:26 am / quote |
tcelfer
: IlikeMetal wrote:
Genital Ben wrote:
So then would you say the Yankees is playing the Rays? No? That's what I thought. Fucking Dipshit.
The Yankees is plural, as it refers to a group of people. Pantera is a single entity, as it refers to ONLY the band itself, and as such is singular.
Please, stay in school. |
This guy is right...
When you're speaking about a group, it's treated as a singular noun, so if you were to say "The baseball team are good" you would be wrong.
Also, it's funny that one of the people trying to correct grammer said "more easier" which is incorrect. It would just be
"easier".POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 01:47 am / quote |
Primus12
: AVIDFANOFSOUNDS wrote:
Why is everyone so aginst emo, there are some great emo bands: Fugzai, Sunny day real estate, biffy clyro, and they all own these losers |
I haven't heard of the other bands, but biffy is most certainly NOT emo.
I hold the same opinion as alot of people on the article though, they've said some funny stuff but its ignorant and they seem like very unproffesional people.POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 08:50 am / quote |
metalonastrat
: lilboisX3 wrote:
No one should ever compare themselves to pantera period. Pantera are terrible. | my love for pantera did not stop me from laughing my ass off at this comment.POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 04:05 pm / quote |
SkidRow92
: fastlanestoner wrote:
this band is awful. they WISH they sounded like Pantera. |
who doesn't wish they sounded like pantera?!?!?POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 07:12 pm / quote |
umbrellacorp
: Phe4rTheGod wrote:
This band sounds nothing like Pantera, there is absolutely no originality...more like a new metal core washed out band...
I do like his view about crap emo...pretty funny, although they're pretty close to being whiny themselves... |
This is ironically quite truePOSTED: 11/22/2008 - 11:42 pm / quote |
theocao
: lol Necrophagist is so much betterPOSTED: 11/23/2008 - 01:10 am / quote |
Raiderkid38
: i love when ppl pick fights with eachother in these news threads.
anyway. i like FFDP. but read the article ppl. it said that PEOPLE were comparing them to Pantera. they just dont see a problem with it. they themselves did NOT claim to be as good or greater than them. READ once in a while. also Zoltan said when he was i kid or whatever he looked up to them. tell me where it says they think that thaet are as good or better than them.... im waitingPOSTED: 11/23/2008 - 02:02 am / quote |
Rare Breed
: lilboisX3 wrote:
GuilT wrote:
I don't think these guys could carry the Pantera torch, no one can. Other than that the dude wasn't comparing themselves to Pantera, he just said he looked up to Pantera as a true metal band, not some emo fags. These guys are OK. Pantera was great, one of the greatest.
What ****ing tourch does Pantera hold? They Couldn't hold a tourch to Death, Atheist, Cynic and so on. |
yea those bandz r really good im not disagreein wit u der thoz r sum uv my favrite bandz but all the good metal now haz evolved frum Pantera's sound without Pantera derz no Lamb Of God derz no Slipknot derz no metal past the 90s so they deserve a bit uv respect and they've had almost as big an effect on metal as MetallicaPOSTED: 11/23/2008 - 10:23 am / quote |
m
: checked.
STOP EMO BASHING AND STOP METAL BASHING.POSTED: 11/23/2008 - 02:33 pm / quote |
axe_man
: agreed grow some balls POSTED: 11/23/2008 - 02:54 pm / quote |
megadethirish
: I dont think that the title is suggesting that they sound like Pantera...5FDP might ne the band to renew metal through this spell of emo shit. Much like what Pantera did in the 90's when nu-metal was popular....just my opinion.POSTED: 11/23/2008 - 03:22 pm / quote |
BenRaah
: The original funeral for a friend stuff was so called 'emo', and that was far from being mainstream.
I think you all should just listen to the music you like, and not give a damn what the next guy thinks of you.
End of.POSTED: 11/23/2008 - 04:24 pm / quote |
JesusOfSbrbia
: "I'm not talking about the sell-out mainstream, but I'm talking about the mainstream that is capable of reaching (a wider audience). Let me put it this way: I don't like the idea of some cheesy, stupid emo band influencing this new generation."
Yes, you're not a sellout if you say in interviews that you're not a sellout.
Also, I agree that stupid cheesy emo bands shouldn't influence our generation. Stupid, cheesy metal bands should influence us.
Do we really need another band that sounds like Pantera? REALLY?POSTED: 11/24/2008 - 09:47 am / quote |
GREENWARRI0R
: LOLOLOL Five Finger Death Punch suuucks.
And I like how many people don't know what emo is.
emo =/= MCR, cutting yourself, and black eyeliner.
and Pantera aren't even that good so WTF.POSTED: 11/24/2008 - 11:10 am / quote |
bfchead
: | These guys are doing their thing. Let them do it, and if you don't like it, don't listen. |
if people dont express their views there will be a bias view, so in order for people to express there views, they need to listen, and then perhaps comment on such blogs, thus creating the opinionated world we live in
LoLPOSTED: 11/24/2008 - 11:33 am / quote |
ElPincheIndio
: i love metal more than anything in this world... and it's not alive...
but it's not dead either...
it's like a zombie... metal hasn't been as big in the world as the Pantera days [that time period, i'm not necessarily saying it was their torch]
so everybody shut the **** up and go listen to you musicPOSTED: 12/08/2008 - 02:51 pm / quote |
Bassplayer2108
: I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU, ABOUT YOUR IMPERFECTIONS, U MIGHT WIN ONE BATTLE, BUT KNOW THIS ILL WIN THE FUCKIN WAR,
STEP TO ME STEP TO ME MOTHERFUCKER ZIP YER LIP UVE RUN OUT OF TIME
STEP TO ME STEP TO ME MOTHERFUCKER YOU TALK THE TALK NOW WALK THE DAMN LINE
probably my some of my favorite lyrics ever lol!!
I deffinatly think this band is gonna go places w/ their music. Also agreed on the emo music comments made by Ivan and Zoltan. I really cannot stand that whiny shit in any way, shape, or form. Someone up there also said that w/out pantera there would be no L.O.G. DISAGREED!!! Anyway im pretty stoked w/ the way Five Finger Death Punch is going w/ their music and I hope the stay around for a long ass time!!POSTED: 01/06/2009 - 01:16 pm / quote |
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