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Guns N' Roses Boot Gives Eagles Of Death Metal Last Laugh |
| artist: eagles of death metal |
date: 12/03/2008 |
category: video news |
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While Guns N Roses made big news with the release of the album Chinese Democracy, which took 18 years to hit stores, what isnt news is the fact the band had been touring as recently as a few years ago. One of their opening bands was the Eagles Of Death Metal, which were kicked off GNRs last tour by one Axl Rose. Eagles Of Death Metal recently released their latest album "Heart On," and consists of old friends Jesse Hughes and Josh Homme. They saw their hard work pay off in 2006 after the release of their sophomore album "Death By Sexy" and they parlayed their success into being invited in the fall of 2006 to tour with Guns N Roses. However, after the bands first show of the tour the always unpredictable Axl Rose took the stage and kicked the band off the tour, in front of a packed crowd.
We caught up with Jesse Hughes to get his thoughts on what exactly happened.
"He shows up forty five minutes late and it was like Stepford Wives. Everyone was acting like Stepford Wives and that's because of the maniacal regime and I can't respect that. It's an outrage and a it's a disrespect for the opportunity. So anyway, when he goes on stage and it's three songs into it and he says 'What did you all think of the Pigeons of S**t Metal? Well you better feel sorry for those little fellas because they are no longer on the tour. So, I was dinking something at the time and immediately went 'Pfft!' Now me being who I am I immediately went 'Press! Yes!' Then I was kind of hurt because I didn't understand it. You know I went there completely wanting to be approved by one of my idols and here he was sh**ting on me in the most outrageously disrespectful way. It was classless. It was not Axl Rose it was Wackl Rose or I'm not on Paxil Rose."
Hughes also mentioned the incident was a defining moment in his career of Rock N Roll.
"And then Dave Grohl, being the ultimate sweetheart, not only a great friend but a true rock alli, made his press statement on AOL that being disapproved by Axl was like being Knighted by the Queen. The next thing you know I'm on every streaming banner on AOL and that made my career. It literally was a defining moment of my career in Rock N Roll. It just goes to show that it aint always what it seems like. If something's in play for awhile, it aint over until it's over."
Don't feel too bad for the band, as they once again made another wise business decision and got paid in advance for the whole tour.
"Oh we got kicked off the tour and I got paid for every show. Because let me tell you how Axl works and I took advantage of business because I'm not a dummy. Just for the money issue Axl can't get anyone to work for him unless he pays them in advance because he's notorious for canceling tours and you just can't live like that. You know because he demands the best, whatever. So, that's his business model so in order for us to even begin the tour we had to be paid in advance."
The Eagles of Death Metal will close out 2008 with a few Radio Station Holiday concerts. The band will kick off the Holiday season in December 10th in Kansas City for KRBZ's 7th Annual Night The Buzz Stole Christmas. The Eagles of Death Metal will close down their 2008 tour on December 18th in Chicago for Q101's Twisted 15. Look for the band to announce a new run of tour dates in 2009.
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pootoob
: I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:15 am / quote |
LifesSweetDrug
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Guns N' Roses Boot Gives Eagles Of Death Metal Last Laugh |
Shouldn't it be Axl and not G'n'R?
This guy is clever (: Get paid to do nothing.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:37 am / quote |
red157
: Good on Jesse. Heart On took just over a year, time better spent than a decade on Chinese Democracy.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 07:39 am / quote |
DiveRightIn63
: Axl Rose is a self-centered twat.
Good to see EoDM did some good business work though.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:18 am / quote |
joblow
: LifesSweetDrug wrote:
Shouldn't it be Axl and not G'n'R?
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Yeah, it's a joke that he is still calling his new band guns n roses. The GNR name is popular because of what the old band members had accomplished in the mid to late 80s up into the early 90s. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:21 am / quote |
Xeus
: i love you jessePOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:42 am / quote |
This1GoesTo11
: I'm confused. What did they do to piss Axl off? Did he just not like their music?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:54 am / quote |
Xoth
: Everyone knows Axl as being a dick... however, they're forgetting something important. He's one of the greatest rock n' roll frontmen of all time. The way I see it, he should have a right to decide whether someone deserves to be on the tour or not.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:54 am / quote |
ashowe
: I think that signing a contract to be the opening band is what decides who deserves to be on the tour.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:00 am / quote |
0bsessions
: Xoth wrote:
Everyone knows Axl as being a dick... however, they're forgetting something important. He's one of the greatest rock n' roll frontmen of all time. The way I see it, he should have a right to decide whether someone deserves to be on the tour or not. |
Actually, he really shouldn't. That's a huge slap in the face and a monumental disrespect to both the band and the fans. I have little doubt there were plenty of people who bought tickets to that show specifically to see EoDM and he basically screwed those fans over for, apparently, no good reason. He has certain rights, but he crossed the line when he did it in an absolutely classless manner.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:03 am / quote |
Korzack
: red157 wrote:
Good on Jesse. Heart On took just over a year, time better spent than a decade on Chinese Democracy. |
How about we do a UG opener for the next Guns tour, then on our first tell, tell him to go screw a goat, and wait to get sacked?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:08 am / quote |
blackduck66
: pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read. |
Maybe you should proof read as well. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:17 am / quote |
everjump
: A few words to EoDM about "G'nR"(i you call it so): You're wasting your time, 'cause the boy is bad news
Rock on!
POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:27 am / quote |
bjovi400
: ...thats really...um. yeah. And he kicked them, and humiliated them for...what reason again?
anyway, great for EoDM for getting the money in advancePOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:30 am / quote |
metal@hart11
: haha pay up axl. guess you shoudlnt be late anymore if your getting rid of your opening acts so quick. the fans would rather watch a band rocking out opening the show then stare at a clock waiting for axl to arrivePOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:42 am / quote |
Red33
: That's awesome.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:44 am / quote |
getts182
: Another article that proves Dave Grohl is the man.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:52 am / quote |
enginehead
: Yea, don't know what the hell goes on in his head lol. I agree he definatly crossed the line this time, totally out of orderPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:55 am / quote |
Jett Diamond
: KidBARTLEY wrote:
pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read.
Who gives a rats ass, it's showing how big of an ***** Axl Rose is. I don't see why everybody worships him as being an ultimate Rock God seeing as he is a prime example of an obnoxious, arrogant, gurny S**thead. |
Uh, get your head on straight. I'd say 90% of the people on here lick Slash's ball sack and spend the time where they don't have dick in their mouth going on about how Axl is a whiny little bitch and blah blah blah. I hate Guns 'n' Roses in all forms, but I love Axl Rose because he pisses off all the pathetic, arrogant little guitarists. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:00 am / quote |
Mahoru
: How can anyone forget this?
When I knew what had happened I lost the few respect I still had for Axl Rose.
It must be quite embarrasing that the "Pigeons of Shit Metal", a band with much less experience, releases an album in just a year which is by far the best rock album in a LONG time (IMO), while the Axl Rose solo project, with dozens of musicians and hundreds of people working with them, with a lot of experience, releases an album in 17 years which is... how to say it... pretty crappy. ^^'POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:09 am / quote |
kgesme21
: getts182 wrote:
Another article that proves Dave Grohl is the man. |
+1
yes, yes he is. Also, I don't have any Eagles of Death Metal albums. If I had to get one, which one should it be? All opinions welcome.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:17 am / quote |
ntchode
: I happen to agree with Axel on this one, the condors of shit metal do suck. I hate all of their songs.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:21 am / quote |
theotherguy7145
: DiveRightIn63 wrote:
Axl Rose is a self-centered twat.
Good to see EoDM did some good business work though. |
LMAO! They shoulda sued Axl for "ruining the bands image and reputation with a public display of unneccessary humiliation"
Honestly, sometimes Axl pisses me off with his "Spoilt brat i can get whatever i want cos i'm a big rich n famous rockstar" routine.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:26 am / quote |
Gunner96
: How many times is he going to talk about the incident? It happened ages ago, and yet no one can seem to escape it. Funny, but everybody's heard this story a hundred times, ****, get over itPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:26 am / quote |
noodlegts
: ntchode wrote:
I happen to agree with Axel on this one, the condors of shit metal do suck. I hate all of their songs. |
Regardless, you do not insult them and kick them off the tour mid-tour for no reason. Axl Rose is clearly the ass hole here... there's NO debate.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:51 am / quote |
HELLAWAITS88
: axl rose + fame = ultimate rock a$$ hole
NOT ultimate rock god...
he's a douchebag...
REMEMBER GUNS N ROSES!!! NOT AXL ROSE!!!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:09 am / quote |
FretboardToAsh
: isn't it the other way around? axl has to pay them for the whole tour when they do only 3 shows?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:13 am / quote |
bsa5150
: I must have read this exact same article like three times in the last two years. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:15 am / quote |
AdemaOnYourHead
: kgesme21 wrote:
Also, I don't have any Eagles of Death Metal albums. If I had to get one, which one should it be? All opinions welcome. |
Death By Sexy is my favorite.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:32 am / quote |
Guitar_Jester
: You gotta admit Pigeons of Shit Metal is funny :PPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:32 am / quote |
thirdeye_15
: ppl he owns the fuking name Guns N Roses is his fuking property, when u read gnr from NOW on , think of it as Axls alias, seriously its not that hard to realize, stupid fuks, of course its not gnr i dunno how many times ive seen ppl say this shit... WE ALL KNO ITS AXL so juss look at it as a different way for him to refer to himself...POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:39 am / quote |
MasterExploder0
: Wow, and I thought Axl couldn't get anymore douchey. Him being late is pretty normal tho (surprised he wasn't pouting in his dressing room about the meat being bigger than the bread XD)POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:39 am / quote |
Neurie
: This1GoesTo11 wrote:
I'm confused. What did they do to piss Axl off? Did he just not like their music? |
erm their gigs supporting gnr were less than good infact i remeber some one actually booing them 
but anyways axl has done them a hgue favour bought a mediocre band a hell of alot of press and paid them for gigs they never had to playPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:57 am / quote |
JDZYX
: MasterExploder0 wrote:
Wow, and I thought Axl couldn't get anymore douchey. Him being late is pretty normal tho (surprised he wasn't pouting in his dressing room about the meat being bigger than the bread XD) |
Personally, I'm suprised he wasn't pouting in his his dressing room about the 'Meat' being bigger than his mouth.
Also, 'The Pigeons of Shit Metal'... Is that really the best he could come up with? I hope he gets shot.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 12:07 pm / quote |
spiff389
: i really just don't like Guns and Roses anymore. it's not GnR and Axl is a *insert emotionally damaging word here*POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 12:14 pm / quote |
lutfish
: red157 wrote:
Good on Jesse. Heart On took just over a year, time better spent than a decade on Chinese Democracy. |
Amen to that.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 12:14 pm / quote |
Metallicam
: This guy sounds like a twat. However, I do believe Axl could have been nicer when releasing them from the tour. But it had to be done, they do suck and were getting boo'd because of it.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 12:26 pm / quote |
Thefallofman
: "The Pigeons of Shit Metal" has nothing on "I'm Not On Paxil Rose". HahahahahaPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 12:57 pm / quote |
courtkid1012
: They are probably a shit band, I don't blame him.
Besides, Axl is the only reason their album was any good at all (not saying the album was good. Only "Better" was worth it)POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:08 pm / quote |
GUNIT!
: this looks like a very professional article.
i think they should change their name to "The Axl Rose Experience"POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:13 pm / quote |
MonsterOfRock
: I'm sure theres more to it than Axl just kicking them off the tour (considering he did pay them in advance). That big of a deal is most definately not a one hand clapping thingy. Pretty sure these guys did something to agitate him that much. Axl is a bit of a dick, but ever since he rose to fame, the media has been portraying him as the antagonist.
However, "The Pigeons of Shit Metal" thing was like 2 year old incident, why is it in here now?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:31 pm / quote |
G0dzilla
: I hate the fact that chinese democracy is good cause axl is a f--king a--hole, i've never listened to EoDM but thats just unfair.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:32 pm / quote |
clapton-floyd
: Jett Diamond wrote:
Uh, get your head on straight. I'd say 90% of the people on here lick Slash's ball sack and spend the time where they don't have dick in their mouth going on about how Axl is a whiny little bitch and blah blah blah. I hate Guns 'n' Roses in all forms, but I love Axl Rose because he pisses off all the pathetic, arrogant little guitarists. |
Yes, I also get sick of how people arse lick Slash and slag off Axl. However, all must concede that Slash is a good guitarist, and Axl is a fantastic showman.
The fact of the matter is though, that you just can't do that to other musicians, and as for turning up late, it's just disrespectful to the people who forked out money to come see you.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:32 pm / quote |
Numero80
: Chinese Democracy holy sucks lollPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:39 pm / quote |
tamargoguitar
: im now 110% convinced dave grohl is the man POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:43 pm / quote |
thomaserak
: everjump wrote:
A few words to EoDM about "G'nR"(i you call it so): You're wasting your time, 'cause the boy is bad news
Rock on! |
i see what you did there.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 01:51 pm / quote |
dime187
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Uh, get your head on straight. I'd say 90% of the people on here lick Slash's ball sack and spend the time where they don't have dick in their mouth going on about how Axl is a whiny little bitch and blah blah blah. I hate Guns 'n' Roses in all forms, but I love Axl Rose because he pisses off all the pathetic, arrogant little guitarists. [/quote]
Sounds like you have a little of axl in your mouth!!!People who live in glass houses should not throw stones !!!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 02:05 pm / quote |
guitaringnathan
: wow you guys are idiots going on about axl like this. axl is a genius and you dont have to admit it but you know in the back of your head its true. UG is a hypocrite because they'll tell people not to bash fall out boy, a band that has contributed nothing to anything, but when theres axl, someone who has contributed so much to music and they wont say anything.
the only gun i want back is izzy! POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 02:27 pm / quote |
Power123
: Uh, get your head on straight. I'd say 90% of the people on here lick Slash's ball sack and spend the time where they don't have dick in their mouth going on about how Axl is a whiny little bitch and blah blah blah. I hate Guns 'n' Roses in all forms, but I love Axl Rose because he pisses off all the pathetic, arrogant little guitarists.
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whilst i believe slash's credit is well deserved, i do love axl for exactly that reason!! 100% haha
however, on this particular incidence he was out of order!..
POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 02:29 pm / quote |
Mattylightning
: LifesSweetDrug wrote:
Guns N' Roses Boot Gives Eagles Of Death Metal Last Laugh
Shouldn't it be Axl and not G'n'R?
This guy is clever (: Get paid to do nothing. |
agreedPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 02:32 pm / quote |
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: CheckedPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
recliner33
: What happened was eodm played the first show of the tour and they got booed alot because most of the crowd was just a bunch of retarded gangbangers who weren't into that type of music and only came to see GNR. A bunch of suicide girls hit the stage that night too and they got booed off the stage and afterwards, Jesse Hughes hung out with them backstage.
Tommy Stintson or however you spell it was the one that recommended that eodm opened for gnr.
Apparently after eodm got kicked off the tour, the GNR camp sent out an apology and they invited eodm back on the tour, but Jesse told them to go **** themselves or something along that line.
Jesse seems to be cool about the situation as he jokes about it all the time, while this just proves how much of a dick Axl really is.
And eodm getting booed probably has nothing to do with their performance, it's just that the GNR fans didn't accept them because alot of them are narrow minded and aren't open to different kinds of music.
It's like if you had the who open up for a band like slayer, the who would probably get booed off the stage no matter how good their performance was because the typical slayer fan only listens to "metal".POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:03 pm / quote |
JesterShred
: I saw the Eagles of death metal on David letterman once... and i'm not gonna lie, i laughed... alot. i thought they were a joke, or a skit that david letterman put on, until he later ended the show like they were real... so... no offense, axl knows what he's talking about sometimes, those guys blow.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:14 pm / quote |
dnamra13
: i don't like EoDM but it is a good thing he steps up, because axl's ego is gigantic for someone who isn't the biggest rockstar. he still thinks he is living the appetite for destruction - use your illusion era. anyway when i first heard this band i was like where is the F***** Death Metal??? if your name is Eagles of Death Metal.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:29 pm / quote |
TerpsRHCP
: deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol |
Some say God has a part in everything
God=Dave Grohl?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:33 pm / quote |
itmustbejesus
: so axl doesn't like them and kicked them off the tour big deal and recliner 33 if the fans are going to boo them then they shouldn't be on tour you wouldn't put metallica and jethro tull on tour togehter that would be completely different music... i don't find a problem with this think mic jagger would be any different if he didn't like the band opening for them we probably wouldn't call them out onstage but if the stones had and opening act being boo'd he would kick them off sooner than laterPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:43 pm / quote |
misfit_lover
: [/quote]Psycho Pigeon wrote:
nice axl, you still got balls. |
If he had balls he will go & sell chinese democracy in the streets of shangaiPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:45 pm / quote |
Axlthegreat
: recliner33 wrote:
What happened was eodm played the first show of the tour and they got booed alot because most of the crowd was just a bunch of retarded gangbangers who weren't into that type of music and only came to see GNR. A bunch of suicide girls hit the stage that night too and they got booed off the stage and afterwards, Jesse Hughes hung out with them backstage.
Tommy Stintson or however you spell it was the one that recommended that eodm opened for gnr.
Apparently after eodm got kicked off the tour, the GNR camp sent out an apology and they invited eodm back on the tour, but Jesse told them to go **** themselves or something along that line.
Jesse seems to be cool about the situation as he jokes about it all the time, while this just proves how much of a dick Axl really is.
And eodm getting booed probably has nothing to do with their performance, it's just that the GNR fans didn't accept them because alot of them are narrow minded and aren't open to different kinds of music.
It's like if you had the who open up for a band like slayer, the who would probably get booed off the stage no matter how good their performance was because the typical slayer fan only listens to "metal". |
recliner33 wrote:
What happened was eodm played the first show of the tour and they got booed alot because most of the crowd was just a bunch of retarded gangbangers who weren't into that type of music and only came to see GNR. A bunch of suicide girls hit the stage that night too and they got booed off the stage and afterwards, Jesse Hughes hung out with them backstage.
Tommy Stintson or however you spell it was the one that recommended that eodm opened for gnr.
Apparently after eodm got kicked off the tour, the GNR camp sent out an apology and they invited eodm back on the tour, but Jesse told them to go **** themselves or something along that line.
Jesse seems to be cool about the situation as he jokes about it all the time, while this just proves how much of a dick Axl really is.
And eodm getting booed probably has nothing to do with their performance, it's just that the GNR fans didn't accept them because alot of them are narrow minded and aren't open to different kinds of music.
It's like if you had the who open up for a band like slayer, the who would probably get booed off the stage no matter how good their performance was because the typical slayer fan only listens to "metal". |
that's a totally unfair comparison eodm are a very mediocre band opening for a legendary band while the who is much better than slayer(i do like slayer), and no they would not get booed by many at a slayer show, .most metal fans have good taste in rock music that's why they don't like a mediocre rock band like eodm. Also i'm a member of a GN'R fanboard and most people on their have great taste in music, liking stuff from opeth to radiohead but not many stick up for this crap band eodm. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 03:58 pm / quote |
aikman08
: pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read. |
Yes, they definately need to learn to proof read. Too bad you also do.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:00 pm / quote |
Axlthegreat
: also sorry for the double post but whoever gets openers for GN'R has done horrible in recent years the only opening band they got that didn't deserve booing was avenged sevenfold, they've had other sub par bands like papa roach, bfmv, and cky open for them. What happened to Gn'R getting great openers like FNM, Soundgarden, Skid Row, and the cult. I'd like to see Muse opening for them on the Chinese Democracy tour although I doubt that will be possible unless Axl starts promoting the album and they release some music videos. Chinese Democracy is actually a very good album I have seen so much blind hatred for it on here and other places, where people listen to it once and then judge it because they want to hate it. A good amount of the songs take at least a few listens before you can hear the greatness in them. Sorry is the best rock song in a looong time. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:06 pm / quote |
mitch311
: TerpsRHCP wrote:
deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol
Some say God has a part in everything
God=Dave Grohl? | Dave Grohl isn't that greatPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:07 pm / quote |
benjibreeg
: even though the band's kinda crappy, it still shows that axl is one of the greatest examples of scum in Rock n Roll history. Good to know they got paid though POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:09 pm / quote |
Ultius
: I wish it were more clear what exactly happened. In any case, Axl was incredibly stupid. After paying them up front for the tour, he kicks them out on the first show. He isn't being ballsy. Being ballsy is stage-diving from the top of the scaffolding. Being ballsy is breaking off from your record company when you know they're screwing you over. Being ballsy is very different from abusing your opening act to make yourself look better and get a cheap laugh. Axl should know better.
In other news, Dave Grohl is now a ubiquitous entity who embodies the pure awesome that is Rock. May we be blessed with his kindness, wisdom, and awesomeness for many years to come.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:16 pm / quote |
King Herman III
: courtkid1012 wrote:
They are probably a shit band, I don't blame him.
Besides, Axl is the only reason their album was any good at all (not saying the album was good. Only "Better" was worth it) |
I have never listened to them, but Axl is wrong to kick them off in the middle of a show. That's just down right wrong and humiliating. Fuck Axl Rose!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:24 pm / quote |
areese82
: EODM are the bomb. Just bought Heart On on monday and it's the best rock album I've heard this year and it didn't take 17 years to make. Axl Rose is nothing but a pretentious ass and I'm glad he kicked them off his tour...EODM should be touring with someone with tastePOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:25 pm / quote |
Mahoru
: Axlthegreat wrote:
that's a totally unfair comparison eodm are a very mediocre band opening for a legendary band while the who is much better than slayer(i do like slayer), and no they would not get booed by many at a slayer show, .most metal fans have good taste in rock music that's why they don't like a mediocre rock band like eodm. Also i'm a member of a GN'R fanboard and most people on their have great taste in music, liking stuff from opeth to radiohead but not many stick up for this crap band eodm. |
Well, that's YOUR opinion. I also have a very wide musical taste, from Radiohead or Aphex Twin to Opeth or Bloodbath, going through Cynic, Hednrix, SRV... and eventhough I like Guns n' Roses (that means, Appetite - Illusion era), I'd take Eagles of Death Metal over them anyday. Why? Because they may not be the most technical or complex band, but there's something NOBODY does like them: plainly rock.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:28 pm / quote |
Adam_Harrison9
: I think I'd love to see someone like Henry Rollins wipe the floor with Axl. It would be ****ing funny. Axel is clearly a douche. Utter disrespectful bullshit right there. Never been much of a GNR fan, watered down "metal" for poppy scene kids.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 04:30 pm / quote |
ihavenoname93
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you spelled it wrong. its Axl rose projectPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:14 pm / quote |
ihavenoname93
: haha, pidgeons of shit metal. good job axl. thats the funniest thing ive heard all dayPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:15 pm / quote |
That-Funny-Guy
: wow this is a new record for UG.
two and a half year old news.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:18 pm / quote |
grifff
: thirdeye_15 wrote:
ppl he owns the fuking name Guns N Roses is his fuking property, when u read gnr from NOW on , think of it as Axls alias, seriously its not that hard to realize, stupid fuks, of course its not gnr i dunno how many times ive seen ppl say this shit... WE ALL KNO ITS AXL so juss look at it as a different way for him to refer to himself... |
Off the sack please.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:30 pm / quote |
tim western
: It's Guns N' Roses. Different members, same band. Take it of leave it, just stop whining for the love of God. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:44 pm / quote |
Mihyaeru
: it shud be Axle and friends but as my mate sed no1 wud buy the album then!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 05:47 pm / quote |
radioplay
: This1GoesTo11 wrote:
I'm confused. What did they do to piss Axl off? Did he just not like their music? |
yea i think Axl was expecting an actual metal band,and has absolutely no sense of humor.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:08 pm / quote |
Sleaze90
: Adam_Harrison9 wrote:
I think I'd love to see someone like Henry Rollins wipe the floor with Axl. It would be ****ing funny. Axel is clearly a douche. Utter disrespectful bullshit right there. Never been much of a GNR fan, watered down "metal" for poppy scene kids. |
Watered down "metal" for poppy scene kids? They were the real deal and that's why everyone liked them. Also the last time I checked most of their fans weren't "poppy scene kids". GnR has a very wide fan base from all different types of genres. My only guess to why you even said this was probably b/c your jeolous of all the attention GnR gets while all your "hardcore" showoff real metal stuff that you buy into isn't. I'm sorry GnR isn't fake enough for you to like them, they just do what they want, which I guess is not good enough for you.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:33 pm / quote |
m
: checked.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
The ZenOfShred
: Axl Rose is lucky he has never met a person like Dave Mustaine or Zakk Wylde because they both would of gave Axl what he has coming for more than 20 years... a ****ing punch. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:46 pm / quote |
TaV0
: Eagles of Death Metal are way better than those twats in Guns n' Roses. Let's accept that Axl is a "has-been"POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Joewhall
: thats awsome, axl is such a cockPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:53 pm / quote |
mesopatamius
: Dave mustaine does not punch. He asplodes people's heads.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 06:59 pm / quote |
metaldud536
: lol @ "Pidegons of shit metal" But man that Axl is such a dick. Did he have a reason for kicking them off?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 07:08 pm / quote |
Cafas
: | He's one of the greatest rock n' roll frontmen of all time. The way I see it, he should have a right to decide whether someone deserves to be on the tour or not. |
You seriously think that's an excuse to be an unprofessional *******? It's sheep like you who elevate these dickheads to such a status that they're beyond human beings. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 07:16 pm / quote |
blackreign
: I haven't read most of the responses, but I was at the show in Cleveland when this happened. Sebastian Bach's band opened up, and they kicked ass. The Suicide Girls were next, and did their thing quite well. Then, The Eagles of Death Metal came on, and the show fell flat. The booing started, at least from the comments I heard from people around me, because the SOUND was shitty. I have no idea if the songs were good or not, because everything coming out of those guitars was horrible. Myself, and probably most folks at the concert, had never heard of Eagles of Death Metal, probably thought that was "their sound," and were growing restless from waiting for Axl's band. Plus, the music really did not fit the show, at all. Seriously, GNR didn't go on until at least 11:30 that night. The floor was filled at 6 o'clock. They wouldn't have been booed if the order was Eagles of Death Metal, Suicide Girls, Sebastian Bach, GNR. That would have lead to GNR being booed, since Bach tore it up. Also, nobody mentions that Axl also fired a sound guy after a few songs. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 07:46 pm / quote |
Chris_Parker
: Love this band. I'm so mad I haven't gotten Heart On yet. There was even a record store by me that gave out a vinyl single for Wannabe In L.A. for free with the album.
Go Eagles!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 07:53 pm / quote |
crazy8rgood
: recliner33 wrote:
What happened was eodm played the first show of the tour and they got booed alot because most of the crowd was just a bunch of retarded gangbangers who weren't into that type of music and only came to see GNR. A bunch of suicide girls hit the stage that night too and they got booed off the stage and afterwards, Jesse Hughes hung out with them backstage.
Tommy Stintson or however you spell it was the one that recommended that eodm opened for gnr.
Apparently after eodm got kicked off the tour, the GNR camp sent out an apology and they invited eodm back on the tour, but Jesse told them to go **** themselves or something along that line.
Jesse seems to be cool about the situation as he jokes about it all the time, while this just proves how much of a dick Axl really is.
And eodm getting booed probably has nothing to do with their performance, it's just that the GNR fans didn't accept them because alot of them are narrow minded and aren't open to different kinds of music.
It's like if you had the who open up for a band like slayer, the who would probably get booed off the stage no matter how good their performance was because the typical slayer fan only listens to "metal". |
This man... A damn good point he has!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:21 pm / quote |
shadow__666
: This article only proves what I already knew; Axl is a knob, Dave Grohl is the most awesome human being on the planet and Eagles of Death Metal rock.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:25 pm / quote |
Cafas
: Stevie Ray Vaughn was booed the first he played the Montreux Jazz Festival. Bob Dylan got booed when he showed up at a folk festival playing a Fender Strat in the 60s. Audiences can be fickle; it's not always the band's fault.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:25 pm / quote |
Cheweroni
: TerpsRHCP wrote:
deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol
Some say God has a part in everything
God=Dave Grohl? |
man that'd be awesome
"and now a reading from the rock bible acording to dave grohl"
"and god said thout shall shred thy fretboard and melt the minds of many a fans"
lolPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:51 pm / quote |
korbhag
: TerpsRHCP :
deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol
Some say God has a part in everything
God=Dave Grohl?
|
Indeed he is...POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:52 pm / quote |
radiofriendly
: HAHAHAHAHA @ "I'm not on Paxil Rose"
Axl yes, he is an arsehole...but that's the way he is and always will be...this may of gone a bit to far, but it really doesn't surprise me all that much.
He does have a right to decide whether a band is worthy of touring with Gunners, but he could have done it in a more mannered way...but that just wouldn't be Axl?
POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:57 pm / quote |
fastlanestoner
: so basically axl is a shithead and dg is jesus.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 08:58 pm / quote |
A Bad Guitarist
: DiveRightIn63 wrote:
Axl Rose is a self-centered twat.
| Quoted for infinite truthPOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:05 pm / quote |
Aftertime
: lol Penguins of shit metal...
thats a pretty interesting story. at least they got heaps of press and got paid in advancePOSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:19 pm / quote |
i bleed metal
: i was at that concert, i was on the floor and we like the eagles of death metal for like 2 songs, then we all started booing and chanting "Guns and ****ing roses!" for their entire set. then like 90 minutes later axl finally comes on with welcome to the jungle and after the song hes like "well im sorry you all had to listen to the pigeons of shit metal, but dont worry because theyll no longer be playing on this tour"
i dont feel bad for them, they sucked, and that was like a year ago, why are they still talking about it?POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:25 pm / quote |
TheEternalHate
: "And then Dave Grohl, being the ultimate sweetheart, not only a great friend but a true rock alli, made his press statement on AOL that being disapproved by Axl was like being Knighted by the Queen." lol except probably it's much easier accomplishment . I LOVE DAVE GROHL HE IS SO BADASS!POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:28 pm / quote |
fenderlover99
: dude, Dave Grohl is the shit. its no wonder that alot of people call him "the nicest guy in rock n roll"POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 09:40 pm / quote |
Trynstopme
: One more reason why Im never buying a single guns n roses album. EVER.
Axl is a douchebag. A flaming bag of it.
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GQ9999
: Axl, Duff, Izzy, Slash and Sorum/Adler were the one's who wrote the music behind GNR. The sum of all their parts created the real Guns N Roses that rocked up until about 1996. With 5 of 6 of these artist not writing, creating and contributing to songs since then, we've lost any hope of ever hearing any new GNR material that will be anything like what was released from 1986-1996. It just can’t be GNR the way we want it to be.
Duff, Slash, Izzy and Sorum/Adler all offer their own unique musical style, and you can't replicate or duplicate their writing abilities and the passion they put into the parts they contributed to GNR. Sure, there are other artists with arguably far superior technical talent who can play their parts. However, any new “GNR” music made by artists other than them will not have the passion, drive, energy, style, rythm, riffs, melodies, rawness, grandeur and emotion that GNR had up until 1995-1996.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:19 pm / quote |
MegaRon
: Aw, I was hoping that Axl was caught wearing funny shoes.
No, but seriously, I'm happy for the Eagles of Death Metal, even if I don't like them very much.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:20 pm / quote |
ling_yu
: As much as I love his music, Axl Rose is a bigger dick then and a hungover million air.
wait a minute....POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:22 pm / quote |
restless_thrash
: Jett Diamond wrote:
KidBARTLEY wrote:
pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read.
Who gives a rats ass, it's showing how big of an ***** Axl Rose is. I don't see why everybody worships him as being an ultimate Rock God seeing as he is a prime example of an obnoxious, arrogant, gurny S**thead.
Uh, get your head on straight. I'd say 90% of the people on here lick Slash's ball sack and spend the time where they don't have dick in their mouth going on about how Axl is a whiny little bitch and blah blah blah. I hate Guns 'n' Roses in all forms, but I love Axl Rose because he pisses off all the pathetic, arrogant little guitarists. |
the arrogant little guitarists? if Axl rose were a God, he would be one that hated the ones that worshipped him. the man can't keep a goddamn band together because he's such a dick, and the GUITARISTS are arrogant? i think someone needs to deflate your sense of self worth, because it blew up twisted.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:30 pm / quote |
Shakalum
: why is axl rose still in the press? shouldn't he have died of an overdose long before this moment?
slash WAS the only one in that sadsack of a band to walk away with any credibility. POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 10:46 pm / quote |
PedophilePriest
: It seems this Rose Guns dude thrives on chaos. Remember how he calmed the crowd at that concert where James Hetfield caught fire? Thats right...
he didn't, he felt he was upstaged and incited a riot. All class that guy.
A larger sphincter has never existed.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:29 pm / quote |
heyman1
: I went to that concert, it was in Cleveland. What this article leaves out is that they (eagles of death metal) were booed off the stage like 20 minutes into there set, it was partially because they were not good at all (maybe they had an off show, I don't know) and partially because we sat the sebastian bach and the suicide girls (who were pretty cool, the suicide gurls) and everybody just wanted to see GN'R.POSTED: 12/03/2008 - 11:38 pm / quote |
TC1223
: Xoth wrote:
Everyone knows Axl as being a dick... however, they're forgetting something important. He's one of the greatest rock n' roll frontmen of all time. The way I see it, he should have a right to decide whether someone deserves to be on the tour or not. |
Thats what rehearsals are forPOSTED: 12/04/2008 - 01:17 am / quote |
ckellingc
: See? Grohl always saves the day!POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 01:18 am / quote |
Chunga93
: heyman1 wrote:
I went to that concert, it was in Cleveland. What this article leaves out is that they (eagles of death metal) were booed off the stage like 20 minutes into there set, it was partially because they were not good at all (maybe they had an off show, I don't know) and partially because we sat the sebastian bach and the suicide girls (who were pretty cool, the suicide gurls) and everybody just wanted to see GN'R. |
Yeah, i was there too! This article is such bullshit. Yes, he said that but that's because EoDM sucked COCK at that show, it was a horrible performance by them and GnR whooped their asses.
Yet another article that can't hop off of Axl's nuts. Fuck the media. Axl Rose is still the man!POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 01:18 am / quote |
Dr Funkenstein
: Chunga93 :
heyman1 wrote:
I went to that concert, it was in Cleveland. What this article leaves out is that they (eagles of death metal) were booed off the stage like 20 minutes into there set, it was partially because they were not good at all (maybe they had an off show, I don't know) and partially because we sat the sebastian bach and the suicide girls (who were pretty cool, the suicide gurls) and everybody just wanted to see GN'R.
Yeah, i was there too! This article is such bullshit. Yes, he said that but that's because EoDM sucked COCK at that show, it was a horrible performance by them and GnR whooped their asses.
Yet another article that can't hop off of Axl's nuts. Fuck the media. Axl Rose is still the man!
POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 01:18 am / quote |
I wasn't actually there but this is what i was told happened.
As far as im concerned Axl didn't go far enough it should have been the "Gay pigeons of shit metal".POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 01:56 am / quote |
Powerchild
: deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol
|
I actually read somewhere, on some inaccurate news website that Dave Grohl travelled to some remote island off the coast of Asia, and before the release of the first Foo Fighters album, learned how to become and omniscient, all seeing musical entity. But it doesn't take away from the fact that Zakk Wylde bashed his for that weird Probot project. Let's face it- there's no one else that is more of a hardass than Zakk. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 02:17 am / quote |
ilovemyepi
: one thing: EoDM got booed at the show. im pretty sure thats why axl kicked them off...
but i have a conspiracy theory that axl and the eagles secretly planned this to get EODM famous. hahahahahaPOSTED: 12/04/2008 - 02:44 am / quote |
PoP N FresH
: you dont kick a band off a tour after 1 bad show, he could've given them another chance. in my opinion, booking EODM in the first place was signing thier death warrants, its like putting coldplay in front of a crowd of metallica fans, its just not gonna happen. Axl should used more foresight and not be such a child all the time, the public humiliation was unnecessary and he should grow up. and fast. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 03:23 am / quote |
PoP N FresH
: Psycho Pigeon wrote:
nice axl, you still got balls.
If he had balls he will go & sell chinese democracy in the streets of shangai[/quote]
hahaha sorry for double post but right on dude, they would tear those stupid braids right out of his botoxed head. legendary comment. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 03:32 am / quote |
zero27
: blackduck66 wrote:
pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read.
Maybe you should proof read as well. |
nobody likes a douchedag.... you douchebag.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 04:12 am / quote |
Restlesscow
: Maybe a little harsh Axl...but it is damn funny nice one xD.
And GNR's new album is awesome, and in some ways, so is Axl. You cant hate music without hearing it first. Its a pretty pathetic excuse to not listen to it because theirs no Slash. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 05:26 am / quote |
Masterbeefy
: Axl is an ass. I dont care what his excuse for publically humilaiting EoDM is, he didnt have the right to. And all of you little whiny fanboys who think that by liking Axl you are "sticking it to the man" and being a hardassed individual, just know if you were in EoDM's position, Rose wouldnt have had any more respect for you then he did them. He is an egotistical asshat who loves himself too much.
Dave Grohl on the other hand... Now there is a fine musician/person/all seeing musical entity.
**** AxlPOSTED: 12/04/2008 - 08:03 am / quote |
DeathOn2Legs
: wow, i'd never expect him to do something like that. i mean wtf, his band just wasn't there for like 15 years, GONE, and now he comes up like he's god and thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants o_O what a douche...POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 08:06 am / quote |
<Paper Cuts>
: Do the Eagles of Death MEtal playdeath metal? If they do, WHY are they touring around with Axl? And they should've expected it. Axl is conceited anyway XDPOSTED: 12/04/2008 - 08:09 am / quote |
Feel bad inc.
: this happened so long ago, why the **** do I care anymore?POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 08:13 am / quote |
shadow__666
: wrote:
Do the Eagles of Death MEtal playdeath metal? If they do, WHY are they touring around with Axl? And they should've expected it. Axl is conceited anyway XD |
They don't play death metal. The title is just a joke; Jesse Hughes coined it after he was trying to get Josh Homme into death metal and Josh started playing some riffs that he claimed would be played by the "Eagles of Death Metal." Basically, it's their idea of the halfway point between the Eagles and death metal.
As for Dave Grohl, I quote Blunt magazine.
"Saying you hate Dave Grohl is like screaming you hate life in the middle of the CBD- everyone just laughs and thinks you're crazy." If you can't love Dave Grohl, no matter what music you're into, you're either emo or have some serious issues.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 09:04 am / quote |
kgesme21
: Powerchild wrote:
deathmagnetic01 wrote:
Does Dave Grohl have a part in everything? Lol
I actually read somewhere, on some inaccurate news website that Dave Grohl travelled to some remote island off the coast of Asia, and before the release of the first Foo Fighters album, learned how to become and omniscient, all seeing musical entity. But it doesn't take away from the fact that Zakk Wylde bashed his for that weird Probot project. Let's face it- there's no one else that is more of a hardass than Zakk. |
Totally agree with Zakk being a badass, but it always kind of struck me strange that he had that view of Probot because it totally seems like something he'd be into.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 09:25 am / quote |
Teh Skisgaars
: Xoth wrote:
He's one of the greatest rock n' roll frontmen of all time. The way I see it, he should have a right to decide whether someone deserves to be on the tour or not. |
just cause he WAS a really good singer and had the stage presence doesnt make him the best frontman ever
he is a complete idiot who has no clue anymore
typical case of lsd (lead singers disorder).
to me being a forntman is respecting your audience
respecting your fellow band
and respecting your fellow artists
over the years axl has shown he cannot do any of this
he is a complete douchebag and probably the most annoying person in the history of rock and music for that matter
dating back to the cavemen
axl quit while your way way way behind
(i wanted to say more cause im so pissed off at chinese democracy being the absolute crap that it is but i thought i should stop)
POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 09:32 am / quote |
SilverSpurs616
: pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read. |
You noticed that too, huh? :L
Never listened to Eagles of Death Metal, but good on them! Axl is just an *******POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 09:54 am / quote |
proguitarist11
: pootoob wrote:
I swear every time I read an article that mentions Chinese Democracy, the date changes. No, it did not take 18 years to hit stores. They didn't evens tart seriously working on it until 1998. Plus, whoever wrote this article needs to learn to proof read. |
oh hey, let's defend guns n roses because instead of taking 18 years to make an album, they only took 10 years. axl is a f*cking d-o-u-c-h-e bag and no matter how shitty or arrogant this band is, there's no reason to kick them off the tour, ESPECIALLY if he already paid them. is he going out of his way to lose as much money as possible? (although, Pigeons of Sh*t Metal is pretty ****in funny..). and another question..does anyone actually like Chinese Democracy? ok, i'm done. i'm eager to hear anyone's reply to this.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:19 am / quote |
theotherguy7145
: They shoulda sued Axl for "ruining the bands image and reputation with a public display of unneccessary humiliation"
Honestly, sometimes Axl pisses me off with his "Spoilt brat i can get whatever i want cos i'm a big rich n famous rockstar" routine.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:22 am / quote |
jshwak
: Definately not a EODM fan.. but I love there style.. they just have fun w/ it ya know.. which is the polar opposite of the Axl Rose Project.. It's no suprise that Mr.Business kicked them off.. it's typical Axl.. get over it ! POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:36 am / quote |
alfonzo99
: EoDM are awesome. Fair play to them for getting paid for doing absolutely eff all! I can't take GnR seriously now it's just Axl. I could bearly stand him when they were good.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:48 am / quote |
JimMorrison4
: The ZenOfShred wrote:
Axl Rose is lucky he has never met a person like Dave Mustaine or Zakk Wylde because they both would of gave Axl what he has coming for more than 20 years... a ****ing punch. |
He did meet Zakk Wylde. He auditioned for GNR in the 90s.
Eagles of Death Metal suck. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:54 am / quote |
blackreign
: Raise your hand if you were at the show in Cleveland. I think I've counted four, including myself. Why are they even talking about something this old? Like I said earlier, Eagles of Death Metal were booed off the stage because they sounded like shit. This is not a commentary on songwriting skills or musicality...the sound was horrible. But only for them. POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 05:02 pm / quote |
i bleed metal
: Again, I was at the concert as I've stated before and EoDM deserved to be booted. They were booed off the stage. The fans decided they were off the tour before Axl even said they were. The fans made the choice, those who paid for those tickets. Axl did us all a favor.
And all of those of you who are insulting Axl, you should really stop. So what if you don't like him. A lot of people do respect him and just because you think you're the shit, it doesn't make your opinion law just because some people agree with you in a forum that is a breeding ground for Axl bashers.
So unless you have something productive to bring to the table about this cleveland concert or EoDM, keep quiet for the sake of internet spam, please.POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 10:00 pm / quote |
heyman1
: I bleed metal is right. IT is a good way to put it. They did suck and Axl did us all a fovor for booting them. Was he harsh, yeah a little and I stress "a little," but this guy ( the front man) makes it seem like he just put on a good performance and it was a total shock. It was a bad performance on the Eagles of death metal part, and if they are going to share the stage with axl (even if you guys don't like axl) the Eagles of Death metal should of done better. By the way Axl and friends were amazing, it isn't the GN'R that got me into music but it is a Gn'R that deserves respect. I was there by the way, I am not making stuff up, lol.POSTED: 12/05/2008 - 01:35 pm / quote |
fishee9857
: ha ha i was at that show. it was in cleveland and axl didnt go on till almost midnight.....douchePOSTED: 12/06/2008 - 12:17 pm / quote |
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