Kerry King Would Be Surprised If Slayer Were Inducted Into Rock Hall Of Fame

The 2009 Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony will take place on April 4th and this year Jeff Beck, Metallica, Run-D.M.C., Bobby Womack, Little Anthony & the Imperials and Wanda Jackson are the legendary performers that will all be honored in the event which returns to Cleveland, Ohio. With Metallica being honored by voters in 2009, it signals the first of the second generation of Metal bands being eligible for the prestigious honor of enshrinement into the Rock Hall of Fame. Metallica were a huge part in shaping the landscape of heavy metal music for over two decades, along with other notable bands like Slayer, Motley Crue, Megadeth and Anthrax to name a few. So, now that Metallica have been elected, how does Slayer feel about the possibilities of being inducted in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame one day in the future?

Video clip :

We caught up with Slayer's lead guitarist, Kerry King, to find out if he ever thinks about Slayer eventually getting inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

 Kerry King Would Be Surprised If Slayer Was Inducted Into Rock Hall Of Fame

"Only because, didn't Metallica get in this year or last year or something? And I'm like, oh yeah, they've experienced and experimented with more of a pop angel so I can definitely see them. Whether our time comes and people say 'You're going to go into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.' I'd kind of be surprised if we did because we are the anti-everything."

The 2009 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performer inductees were chosen by the 600 voters of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Artists are eligible for inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twenty-five years after their first recording is released. In addition to being honored at the April 4th ceremony, each inducted artist is commemorated at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland Ohio, which serves as a monument to rock and rolls impact on our culture. These inductees will be honored along with previous years inductees and hundreds of other artists with an exhibit and film that serve to tell the story of modern music.

Comments

[jamie_hough]

...I think Id like to experiment with a pop angel too...

[RemainingTruth]

with a pop angel too...
a pop angel
pop angel
angel

SPELLCHECK!

[Kerry_King_1990]

Slayer... one word that sums up the band,
one of my favorite metal bands, incase you couldnt tell by looking at my name...
i dont think they'll get in, becuase Metallica isnt realyl %100 Metal, after the Black Album, they got more poppier and more rock to get a bigger fan base, but Slayer's too awesome to sell out or not play metal

[HenneB]

i really like slayer but they can't let metallica be what they are. slayer is the only band i know that doesn't moved a bit from the 80s. except of seasons in the abyss every album since 1986 is a wannabe Reign in Blood.

[Primus12]

Slayer aren't that good ...
Don't get me wrong i like them and they are quite unique ... But part of being in the hall of fame is being universally accepted, not just by every 14 year old who thinks listening to slayer makes them hardcore

[Lethal Dosage]

They are cool but the people that vote on who gets inducted are like retarded when it comes to knowing hard rock/metal its the same deal as with the grammy's usually they only know the hard rock/metal bands that are popular in the mainstream that even your sister who listens to hannah montana knows who they are.

[TheWickerMan666]

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

[beelaal85]

sure will but i think it's megadeth turn now...

[guitaringnathan]

i say tool needs to get in, maynard is god

[SimpleMan008]

guitaringnathan wrote:

i say tool needs to get in, maynard is god

they can't yet

[guitarguru4]

There's no pop in metallica...Kerry King just thinks he's the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw.

It's the Rock N' Roll hall of fame...Why is Run DMC in there?

I had the impression they were a rap group...

[Gargantuan]

Why isn't Rush in yet?

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

Metallica were a huge part in shaping the landscape of heavy metal music for over two decades, along with other notable bands like Slayer, Motley Crue, Megadeth and Anthrax to name a few.

WOAH WHAT?! how did motley crue sneak in there?!!?..
also i agree im not a huge fan of rush, but they deserve to be in, and i think slayer will be inducted in time becuase they also have had a major influence whether people like it not, and slayer is more or less mainstream at this point

[iplayguitar666]

guitaringnathan wrote:

i say tool needs to get in, maynard is god

they probably will eventually. their can't get voted on until 2018 i think. its 25 years after your first album...

[Tallyka45]

Gargantuan wrote:

Why isn't Rush in yet?

rofl dude, true dat

[Lemmy_Burton]

No, Kerry it's not that they "experimented with pop" it's that their music has a coherent string of notes.

[Slow_N_Low]

Slayer won't get in because they are extremely overrated.

[axeofoc5249]

I'd be surprised as well because Slayer really isn't a successful band. I know alot more bands that should have been in before Metallica but for now they deserve it I mean come on they put Thrash on the map. I think it's more than that though people say just because they transitioned that it was a bad thing. I do not I think it gave them more of a chance. I am a huge Metallica fan anyway but this is not biased in any way.

[sXe170]

i love slayer, but this kind of shit pisses me off. Kerry is blatanly jealous of Metallica.

[MonsterOfRock]

Kerry King loves mentioning Metallica in interviews.

When will humanity get over this sore loser...

[Holy-Diver]

metallica deserves it. it seems like i always see slayer complaining about something metallica related...
jealous much?

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

Slow_N_Low wrote:

Slayer won't get in because they are extremely overrated.

Quite true, Slayer is up in the air on getting in, if they do get in it will be because of their image/influence on other bands not as much on their actual music

[Fergality]

In my opinion Slayer are ****in shit, they'll never grow the stones to stray away from two minute songs and chromatic scales. Also in my opinion, Kerry King is one of the most overrated guitar players of all time..I hate the way they feel the need to comment on everything Metallica do too.

I'm not a fan of most Metallica since Load but at least they're true to themselves and don't make shit poseur music because they're too scared to alienate their fanbase.

[HotDogs1]

remember when slayer tried to do nu-metal? i wouldn't be surprised if they changed into a metal-core band just to get more money.

[stef123]

Deep Purple should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, forget Slayer.

[Fergality]

"Kerry King just thinks he's the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw."

Hohoho

[mastaofrocknrol]

Who the hell is Wanda Jackson?

[Megadeth2011]

hm... Slayer isnt in there, Megadeth isnt, Ted Nugent isnt, Maiden isnt, Rush isnt, Kiss isnt, Alice Cooper isnt, Anthrax isnt, Testament isnt. And i dont see any of these getting in.

[cukd7x-a2-]

I think its more of an honor NOT to get inducted into the Hall Of Fame, just get an exhibit

[SGibson666]

axeofoc5249 wrote:

I'd be surprised as well because Slayer really isn't a successful band. I know alot more bands that should have been in before Metallica but for now they deserve it I mean come on they put Thrash on the map. I think it's more than that though people say just because they transitioned that it was a bad thing. I do not I think it gave them more of a chance. I am a huge Metallica fan anyway but this is not biased in any way.

That seemed biased to me...

But aside from that, i would want to see Slayer in the Hall of Fame, but it's something that I doubt would happen because of the direction they take their music.

[MasterExploder0]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Yeah really. I say Maiden or Megadeth gets in next year, and wtf is up with Run DMC getting in? Last time I checked it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...

[fnkycandle]

+1 for Megadeth, Tool and Slayer
Yes Who the hell is Wanda Jackson?

[dabonehead182]

Four Bands That Really Need To Get In:
Slayer
Tool
Deftones
Korn

All of these bands had a huge impact on music.

[tymanic]

Fergality wrote:

In my opinion Slayer are ****in shit, they'll never grow the stones to stray away from two minute songs and chromatic scales. Also in my opinion, Kerry King is one of the most overrated guitar players of all time..I hate the way they feel the need to comment on everything Metallica do too.

I'm not a fan of most Metallica since Load but at least they're true to themselves and don't make shit poseur music because they're too scared to alienate their fanbase.

i strongly disagree... kerry isnt one of the most overrated guitarists he is THE most overrated guitarist slayer is overrated... there are way better bands that deserve to get in (rush, kiss, iron maiden etc etc)

[dfinch10]

They should just make a metal hall of fame

[vanhalen241]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

Slayer... one word that sums up the band,
one of my favorite metal bands, incase you couldnt tell by looking at my name...
i dont think they'll get in, becuase Metallica isnt realyl %100 Metal, after the Black Album, they got more poppier and more rock to get a bigger fan base, but Slayer's too awesome to sell out or not play metal

Metallica... not 100% metal my butt! theyre more metal then any poser metal band who thinks theyre too tough to write GOOD MUSIC. They know good music, so they play it. Slayer (overrated, no talent), Motley Crue (good but repetetive) Anthrax (annoying, little talent), Megadeth (jealous, but a lot of talent) none of them deserve to join the Hall of Fame because none of them has reached the greatness of Metallica, nor will they ever do so. So dont't put them down.

[Mr. Chang]

Slayer was the stepping stone to extreme music so they deserve to get in eventually. Metallica deserves it more than any other metal band but because they got in no other metal band will for many many years is my guess, the Hall of Fame (the second worst institution in rock music after Rolling Stone magazine) are incredibly biased towards metal and punk.

And amen to Deep Purple getting in

[andyscoot]

Fergality wrote:

In my opinion Slayer are ****in shit, they'll never grow the stones to stray away from two minute songs and chromatic scales. Also in my opinion, Kerry King is one of the most overrated guitar players of all time..I hate the way they feel the need to comment on everything Metallica do too.

I'm not a fan of most Metallica since Load but at least they're true to themselves and don't make shit poseur music because they're too scared to alienate their fanbase.

Slayer want to play thrash metal, so they play thrash metal, not because theyre scared to try other things, and uh, kerry king gets a lot of shit off guitarists, id say he is rated honestly.

Youre talking out of your arse

[Tyler Durden]

I dont like Slayer, and I dont like Metallica - but why does it always seem like KK is ridin on Metallica's nuts...he's always got a comment on them. I think deep down he wishes he was in KH's place. KK is extremely overrated, EVERYTHING that guys does sounds the same - over use of his whammy, and the same scale over and over.....get over yourself KK - and ROFL to the guy that said Slayer think they are the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw, that made my afternoon lol

[NutZz?]

alot of people seem to not like slayer...

regardless, they're considered one of the most important thrash bands from the 80's, along with metallica/anthrax/megadeth. They DID make a huge impact on music, and do deserve recognition.

even though I am a fan of them, I think Megadeth and Iron Maiden should be allowed in before them, or at least at the same time.

[Flibo]

Iron Maiden really needs to get there :/

[Solace123]

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

[strat0blaster]

We'd both be surprised. Becuase that would mean that they'd written something that didn't sound exactly like every other album they've ever written.

[Busproof]

I like Slayer quite a bit, but they really aren't the most talented group ever. Metallica - I'm kinda eh about. I like their early stuff, and bits and pieces of the Black album, but thats just me. I definately believe Iron Maiden should've made it in before Metallica - hell, Iron Maiden directly influenced Metallica (as well as all those thrash bands).

Just my opinion though.

[sottpwn]

I wouldn't be so surprised. Despite being "anti-everything" Slayer are still a household name and should be recognised for that.

[Busproof]

vanhalen241 wrote:

Slayer (overrated, no talent), Motley Crue (good but repetetive) Anthrax (annoying, little talent), Megadeth (jealous, but a lot of talent)

You put Anthrax as annoying with no talent but Motley Crue as good?

Kids, stay off the dope.

[oncetaken]

the members of slayer are not nearly as cool as they think they are

[Thrashtastic15]

Note how the bands they mentioned were the big 4 of thrash and MOTLEY CRUE. Lol fal.

[kgesme21]

The Stooges are the most desrving next year. If they don't get in, it will be a crime against all of humanity (or at least punk rock).

[pantallica95]

we just need a metal hall of fame. or make it so the general public vote on bands, not some council of biased *******s. slayer will never get in cuz theyre too extreme. and anyone who thinks they just tremolo pick random notes needs to buy Seasons in the Abyss NOW!

[Axlthegreat]

wanda jackson?! wow just wow, the hall of fame would rather induct some obscure and irrelevant rockabilly person barely anyone has heard of over a world class band like Rush or Iron Maiden? clearly loads of delusional folk on the hall of fame board. I thought inducting DMC was bad enough but Wanda jackson? Slayer is overrated too there are hundreds of better metal bands.

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

[Tortiss]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

Yea for sure, I'm not sure the awards go out for being influential(not saying inductees are not). They seem to go out to more poplar bands.

[flashmdg]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

they got more poppier

no metallica is pop

[MonsterOfRock]

For the purpose the "Hall of Fame" serves, In my oppinion the next two bands from the metal arena to be inducted, should be Iron Maiden, Megadeth then Pantera.

Those are the ONLY metal bands that 'deserves' to be there. Mind you, the people that are choosing the artists don't really know much about Rn'R. At any rate, don't be surprised to see Coldplay or MCR up there in 20 years. Jokes come true in the music industry, remember that.

[D3athM4gnetic19]

KK's an *******, he needs to stop being so f*cking jealous of Metallica!

[Mr. Chang]

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

[new_age_reject]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

Your not the only dude that thinks that.

[JackPoxon]

The thing people seem to be forgetting about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that is it just that, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hence the inclusion of someone as "obscure" as Wanda Jackson. It's not just about metal.

[wolfeman85]

slayer aint gonna get in cause you gotta sell out to the mainstream to be able to get in and theres no way slayer is ever gonna do that

[Nate Collison]

Without Cliff or Dave in Metallica, there was no one to keep them true to metal. If Cliff was around, the Black Album and everything after it would never have been released.

[pearlJam_31490]

Slayer doesnt even deserve to be in but other people have gotten in how didnt deserve it so it wouldnt surprise me if they did

[Silas S Thompso]

TheWickerMan666 :
Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Because they make good music, where it's "if you like it hop on the train but if you don't **** off." As opposed to the metallica statement, "We don't really like metal." or as Dave Mustaine says, "YOu never made metal, buddy, metal made you."

[GREENWARRI0R]

Meh. Kill 'em All through ...And Justice For All were awesome albums. Yes they are more of a hard rock band now, but at least they haven't been puttin out the same boring stuff like Slayer has. I mean, Slayers great, but damn Kerry King is sooo overrated IMO and their recent releases have been so stale and samey.

[xkingd117x]

Mr. Chang wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

And Metallica hasn't made any bad albums?
Maiden definitely deserves to be in there, if Metallica got in. Pantera probably will too, but Megadeth.. I dont know if they will.
Its the "Rock" hall of fame. They have like, black street musicians in the hall of fame. Seeing Dimebag Darrell next to names like Buddy Holly is a pretty big stretch.

[DeathzMetal666]

new_age_reject wrote:

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

Your not the only dude that thinks that.

nope, you're not the only one, lol, there's a lot of guys who think that (:

[Rain_In_Blood]

Ya like slayer but goddamn metallica is a thrash band just the same. Get your head out of your ass metallica is better stop ****ing hating. ur turning into dave mustaine

[Zanon]

oncetaken wrote:

the members of slayer are not nearly as cool as they think they are

Pretty sure it's just KK thinking he's like ozzy or something... He seems really arrogant and jelous from that statement.
Pretending he wasn't sure when Metallica were inducted He knows exactly when.

However Slayer are awesome and deserve to be inducted

[Led Hed Lefty]

any body who is a metallica fan of everything black album and on.....yes.....it is a little bit poppish rather than the freaking awesome heavy metal of Kill 'em All and And Justice for all and their other early albums....kerry was merely stating that metallica lightened up and became more mainstream genre than staying metallica....nobody can deny that

[Soulburner]

Including me, Death has inspired almost every metal guitarist in some way, shape or form.

[zachmcpeak1012]

dabonehead182 wrote:

Four Bands That Really Need To Get In:
Slayer
Tool
Deftones
Korn

All of these bands had a huge impact on music.

Korn will deffinately even though they suck,
but deftones? there good but i dont think so

[bassplayer18A7X]

Slow_N_Low wrote:

Slayer won't get in because they are extremely overrated.

um or not, they are amazing, and should get in, but i have a feeling they wont get in, or it will be a while before they do.

[WyldeMan666]

Haha kerry kings B.S.ing who didnt know metallica got into the hall of fame but I do think slayer deserves a spot

[Misfit-FTB]

Run DMC? Ewww god, thats terrible. DMC sucks ass and is not ROCK. What a bunch of tards.

[SmittyBaGitty]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

Slayer... one word that sums up the band,
one of my favorite metal bands, incase you couldnt tell by looking at my name...
i dont think they'll get in, becuase Metallica isnt realyl %100 Metal, after the Black Album, they got more poppier and more rock to get a bigger fan base, but Slayer's too awesome to sell out or not play metal

they made that kind of music so they didnt fall into the same category as slayer anymore: stale and boring as hell.

[SmittyBaGitty]

slayer should never even be considered for a spot because every band that gets inducted has made a tremendous impact on music and Metallica is one of the only thrash band that is really diverse instead of just releasing the same album year after year. Megadeth should be considered eventually, but s*it! not slayer by any means.

[GREENWARRI0R]

Slow_N_Low wrote:

Slayer won't get in because they are extremely overrated.

So are a lot of the other bands that got in, so....

[fr33t0m]

Slayer kicks ass! Go listen to God Hates Us All and Christ Illusion if you think they sound like they haven't evolved since the 80's. One of the best bands of all time and a major influence to tons of current real metal bands.

[poona]

I don't expect they will any time soon, I think the mainstream media guys and the soccer moms are still afraid of bands like Slayer and 'what they represent'. But then again, Slayer did recieve a grammy award last year, so I could be wrong.

[YourDad]

Slayer, one of the bands that laid the foundations for extreme metal as we know it today...

Rock n Roll, dude.

[poona]

SmittyBaGitty wrote:

slayer should never even be considered for a spot because every band that gets inducted has made a tremendous impact on music and Metallica is one of the only thrash band that is really diverse instead of just releasing the same album year after year. Megadeth should be considered eventually, but s*it! not slayer by any means.

Sorry for double post but I have to disagree with you there. Even though I see where you're coming from about the 'Slayer releasing the same album for 20 years' thing, I don't think you can deny the importance of Slayer's music and style. I mean, pretty much all the extreme metal bands today say 'Slayer' when they are asked about their influences, except the douche from Gorgoroth who said '...Satan...'

[SLD.Potato]

Primus12 wrote:

Slayer aren't that good ...
Don't get me wrong i like them and they are quite unique ... But part of being in the hall of fame is being universally accepted, not just by every 14 year old who thinks listening to slayer makes them hardcore

How about pioneering a genre of music?

[KerSkater]

Mr. Chang wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

r u kidding? Fear of the Dark has to be one of their best albums IMO.

and yes Iron Maiden should definitely be inducted because they are an influence to so many bands. Not sure about Slayer but they r cool

[Agressivenapkin]

Trent Reznor(NIN) should be next.

[darkcheef]

Maiden should be in, definitely Rush, when Tool is eligible they should get in, and WTF!!!! no deep purple they influenced so much bands (and many many guitarist know smoke on the water) but they have alot more better songs

[Flying Afros]

I hate KISS, but I'm surprised they're not in there yet. And Rush....one of the most influential rock bands to so many genres. That plus their talent, and they've sold a decent amount of records, had a few radio hits. They are overdo for their induction.

And who the hell is Wanda Jackson. Oh, and Run DMC is rap....WTF.

[Case_]

or make it so the general public vote on bands, not some council of biased *****s.

You really want this?

You WANT the majority of the people to determine what gets in? Have you even HEARD what the majority of people listen to these days?

[Mr. Chang]

KerSkater wrote:

Mr. Chang wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

r u kidding? Fear of the Dark has to be one of their best albums IMO.

and yes Iron Maiden should definitely be inducted because they are an influence to so many bands. Not sure about Slayer but they r cool

I like the song Fear of the Dark, it was awesome live but the rest of the album is subpar for me. They were getting into too much of a poppy pseudo '80's hard rock thing. I don't know why they did that in the '90's though when that fad had already passed, always seemed odd to me.

Still, it beats No Prayer For the Dying which easily beats the albums with Blaze. Damn those were bad.

[_Xaos_]

Fergality wrote:
I'm not a fan of most Metallica since Load but at least they're true to themselves and don't make shit poseur music because they're too scared to alienate their fanbase.

Alienate their fanbase? I'm sorry, but Metallica alienated many people, true hardcore fans, with their best selling album. Some people even say that Metallica died with Cliff. I say it started dying, Justice was amazing.

For all those who are thinking about start flaming me, wait a second. I love Metallica's early material, and it's really great thrash music, and when I hear Black Album I feel the songs that are kind of good are because they are commercial. That's why I consider St. Anger a more Metallica album (I'm so getting flamed!) because it was a return to speed and force of the earlier albums. You're telling me that you rather the Unforgiven than Master of Puppets? I've even started to think that the hate against St. Anger was because that most Load/ReLoad era fans were people who heard only Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven and Enter Sandman, as much. And I don't mean any of 'em are bad, just commercial.

The great trouble with Metallica now, is that St. Anger was such a failure they wont even dare to make another speedy, aggressive album as Puppets. Let's keep it safe, NOT TO ALIENATE OUR FANBASE, in our Black Album style.

You remember what was Cliff's reason for joining Metallica? That his own band was getting too commercial. If Cliff wouldn't have died, Metallica could still have that Ride The Lightning/Master Of Puppets sound and style. For sure, it was The Black Album which propulsed them, but would that mean that Jason is better than Cliff?

But why do I paste this? I don't think Slayer will get in anyway, but I consider them a much more solid band in their style.

*sigh* I'm so going to get flamed... But I'll have my opinion anyways.

[perilouspete]

whatever, he's just sayin that cause they're gonna obviously get in in then more people will be like "oooh wow they made it!" the grammys love them so why would they not get into the hall.

[jod23]

I’m more a Metallica fan than Slayer.

Without a doubt, Metallica are the most influential band in the past 3 decades. Metallica continued to grow in their music from kill em all, ride the lighting, master of puppets, and justice for all. The black era, load era was more focused for the 90 decade mainstream but continued to progress in their music. In the 2000 decade they overcame turmoil in st. anger and eventually grew from it and made a good album in death magnetic. Metallica are most deserving for recognition in the rock and roll hall of fame alongside Black Sabbath.

I don’t listen to much Slayer and I’m not inspired to play any of their music. But their only album which changed the music scene was reign in blood and looked like they didn’t want to go mainstream. KK mentioned that the band took the “anti-everything” mentality and Metallica took more the proactive approach.

There is definitely a difference between Metallica and slayer by my perspectives.

[ndschroede23]

poona wrote:

I don't expect they will any time soon, I think the mainstream media guys and the soccer moms are still afraid of bands like Slayer and 'what they represent'. But then again, Slayer did recieve a grammy award last year, so I could be wrong.

Because the Sex Pistols are so safe and accessible...

Not a huge fan of Slayer, and I do have to agree that their music is repetitive, but you can't deny their importance, a lot of music that people listen to now is either Slayer or Slayer-inspired (regardless of whether the musicians admit it). Everyone that listens to -core bands are listening to something that was started with the help of Slayer.

So if the criteria for getting into the Hall of Fame is starting something new and making it popular, then Slayer deserves to be in. But I hope those of you that agree realize that it also means that there's a deserving spot in the HoF for bands like blink-182 and Green Day to get in someday.

[jacobbirdy128]

Slayer dont deserve to get in...

...all their songs sound the same...

[dethboy122]

Woo Slayer

[TheAmericanRuse]

if they let slayer in and not the stooges, i may have to raise some hell.

[BeastlyBassist]

When did slayer bashing become the new bandwagon? Either way, they found a sound they liked and they are sticking with it. What's so bad about that? Changing your sound just for the sake of change is stupid and pointless. Either way, Rush and Maiden should've been in there ages before Metallica.

[spunkeymonkey36]

The reason Slayer aren't going to get into the Rock n Roll hall of fame is because hardly anybody likes them. I think thats evident on some of the messages on this page. To be honest I never heard of Slayer till until I saw them on Youtube. Never have my ears been so insulted! It is disgraceful how they can make so much money out of such a racket, not music, a racket. What is more Kerry King has a funny beard and dated sunglasses and is bald and fat. If anyone says, YEAH BUT YOUR NOT A FAMOUS ROCKSTAR! I LOVE KERRY KING then so be it, no im not a rockstar but id rather star in 2 girls 1 cup the 3 hour epic edition movie version rather than produce this tripe!

[rebreh]

guitaringnathan wrote:

i say tool needs to get in, maynard is god

Those guys at the rock and roll hall of fame would need a good stinkfisting first before they came to there senses lol

[I Poke Badgers]

I'm not really familiar with Slayer, but as far as all the big thrash bands go, people who aren't too familiar with metal have still always heard of Metallica. Rarely Megadeth. Iron Maiden is of course an extremely well known band, and I'm surprised to learn they aren't in (though I don't listen to them personally)!

I can't really see Slayer getting in unless the HoF has a slow year. But seeing as how Rush has not gotten in either, I don't think that will happen. Also, Alice Cooper isn't in? I was under the impression that he/they had a huge influence on later bands. Also, KISS is absolute shite. They don't deserve to be in, ever.

I wonder if Racer X will ever get in... not the greatest band ever, but Paul Gilbert has a huge influence on guitarists the world over.

[metalhed717]

Testament before Slayer.

[Holy-Diver]

for everyone saying maiden should be in before metallica im gonna have to say....
Priest

[trendkill-]

Lemmy_Burton wrote:

No, Kerry it's not that they "experimented with pop" it's that their music has a coherent string of notes.

not realy...

and for those who don't know, pop just means popular culture....so metallica tryed a hard rock thing which is going to a more popular type of music so hense they experimented with pop.

[smithfor ak0]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

No, I agree.

[_Xaos_]

saintjimmy924 wrote:

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

they suck

Can anyone say professionalism?
Maiden's the best metal group out there. Since 1980, inspired both the groups we're discussing here and they've sold more than 70 million records with 14 studio albums, plus they can still give amazing concerts, saw 'em here.

[aedmiston]

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

Did you forget about the Blaze albums? That was what, 8 years between Fear of the Dark and Brave New World? And BNW wasn't even that great.

That said, Maiden and Rush need to be in. NOW.

Run DMC is only getting in because of Walk This Way with Aerosmith in the 80's. DMC covering that song with the band literally resurrected Aerosmith's career. Whether that's a good thing or not is to be debated.

Slayer blows. Kerry King is a pretentious pile of shit. Seriously, he needs to just quit being so butthurt over Metallica's mainstream success and **** off.

[RyanMetalMatthe]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Because people are ****in' stupid.

[metaltolliver]

I would like to see Slayer do something they haven't already done for the past twenty years.....They keep pumpin out metal, but its all the same as everything else they have made.

[DOA12345]

you guys realize that the rock and roll hall of fame isnt ging to put bands in because a bunch of guitar players (myself included) think that "testaments ****ing awesome" or that "paul gilbert has influenced so many people". I would love to see the day when megadeth and racer x and steve vai are in the HoF. But theres a little chance that they will, mostly because the only acts that get in are the bands that influenced them, extremely successful bands, and randomn soul and r&b singers

[HeavyDT]

MasterExploder0 wrote:

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Yeah really. I say Maiden or Megadeth gets in next year, and wtf is up with Run DMC getting in? Last time I checked it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...

im sure it has to do with walk this way the one song had a big effect. you gotta remember its not about putting your fav bands in there its about who had the greatest effect and metallica is def huge.

checked

[Clunis]

I love how he tries to cover up his jealousy by acting like he didn't even know when Metallica is getting in the Hall of Fame; "Only because, didn't Metallica get in this year or last year or something?" Ha, bullshit Kerry.

[heavyprog]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

That and Death is just a vastly superior band to both Slayer and Metallica. Is anyone else just bored with all Metallica like I am? I used to really like them, but I can't even get through a single album these days. Seriously though, if Death ever made it into the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame my respect for that institution would skyrocket.

[I Poke Badgers]

DOA12345 wrote:

you guys realize that the rock and roll hall of fame isnt ging to put bands in because a bunch of guitar players (myself included) think that "testaments ****ing awesome" or that "paul gilbert has influenced so many people". I would love to see the day when megadeth and racer x and steve vai are in the HoF. But theres a little chance that they will, mostly because the only acts that get in are the bands that influenced them, extremely successful bands, and randomn soul and r&b singers

Good points. It's really just about who has the biggest name in the game. I'm sure Tupac will eventually get in, then Snoop Dogg...

I assume U2 are already in. Red Hot Chili Peppers' first album was released 25 years ago, wouldn't that have made them eligible for this year (somebody earlier said you had to have released an album at least 25 years prior)? Huh, I can't believe they didn't get in then? Probably next year then.

[Astaldo]

METALLICA >>>>> slayer

[RCAlbright]

1. Run-DMC deserve to go into the hall of fame because of their influence on rock bands like Aerosmith.

and 2. i hate megadeth, but they deserve to be in the hall of fame because of Dave Mustaine! He wrote all of megadeth's guitar parts and half of metallica's!

[gometal6]

im not sure i agree with THAT, but hey, i mean, leave the grammys for the jonas brothers =)

[Fearnohamsters]

HeavyDT wrote:
im sure it has to do with walk this way the one song had a big effect. you gotta remember its not about putting your fav bands in there its about who had the greatest effect and metallica is def huge.

I agree except Iron Maiden made a huge difference and yet they aren't there. The HoF board needs to be replaced.

[COBHC_Erick429]

Slayer will probably never get in. Why? Because its a 'Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame', not a 'Metal Hall Of Fame'.

[RUSTDOGG666]

well yeah metallica should be in the rock and roll hall of fame because they they have a rock sound now but slayer has always had a metal sound so they would be in the metal hall of fame if there ever would be one lol. honestly if slayer when in the rock and roll hall of fame they might feel insulted cause they're not rock they're metal.

[reignofrock]

I would be surprised too. Slayer... what can I say, they just suck. I have no idea why they are so damned popular and am rather sad they are. Hate the hater, but that's my opinion.

[Aftertime]

he should really stop comparing himself to metallica. everything he says shows that he wishes his (slayer)'s as big as metallica :\

[shaymack37]

I wouldn't be surprised if Slayer made it into the hall of fame, they're such a household name now. Anti-Christ, family, government, whatever. They are the only thrash metal band that never grew up. They've had teenage fans for almost thirty years, that and fans who never grew up. My son is two years old but I wouldn't be surprised if he listened to 'NEW' slayer when he turns twelve. ALL HAIL THE BAND OF ETERNAL SATANIST SIXTEEN YEAR OLDS!!!

[edbert]

Rush, KISS, and Iron Maiden need to be in ASAP, and yes the Rock Hall board needs to be replaced in order to establish credibility.

It is too early for Metallica IMO.

[DrSanitarium]

xkingd117x wrote:

Mr. Chang wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

And Metallica hasn't made any bad albums?
Maiden definitely deserves to be in there, if Metallica got in. Pantera probably will too, but Megadeth.. I dont know if they will.
Its the "Rock" hall of fame. They have like, black street musicians in the hall of fame. Seeing Dimebag Darrell next to names like Buddy Holly is a pretty big stretch.

Id love too see Dimebag in there

[GuitarCanzer21]

Slayer is Slayer

Metallica is $$$$$

[GuitarCanzer21]

I Like metallica (until ...and justice for all)
but please!
honestly
slayer have much more talent
what did you say? "mama say, 2x4"? who is that pop rock shit?
lfmao

[NamelessFaceles]

I'm not really a big fan of Slayer but I would pick them over Run-DMC ANY day.

[Tordyboi]

vanhalen241 wrote:
none of them deserve to join the Hall of Fame because none of them has reached the greatness of Metallica, nor will they ever do so. So dont't put them down.

So your setting the standards of getting inducted by being as big as metallica? ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID??? Metallica isnt the rulebook for metal.

[LoadThe6pounder]

Don't get me wrong, I do like Slayer (to a degree), but...

"we are the anti-everything."?!?!?!

Just when I thought Kerry couldn't be any more of a pretentious poseur...

[ndschroede23]

RUSTDOGG666 wrote:

well yeah metallica should be in the rock and roll hall of fame because they they have a rock sound now but slayer has always had a metal sound so they would be in the metal hall of fame if there ever would be one lol. honestly if slayer when in the rock and roll hall of fame they might feel insulted cause they're not rock they're metal.

And I'm a Pennsylvanian, not an American. Metal IS rock.

[scorpionsphynx]

The reason why Run-DMC is up there is because of the collaberation between them and Aerosmith for "walk this way" which became extremely famous

[wildchild6660]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

I've been asking that question since fukin madonna was inducted.

[swordsofplague]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

I've been pondering this myself. /agree.

[DimeLvR]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

Not death. just Chuck I dont feel Slayer needs to be in there as much as PanterA (changed the direction of metal in the 90's ,Megadeth (daves riffs made Metallica famous need i say more), Priest, Maiden, Rush

[saucehead]

I was at the hall of fame last year for the first time. What a f**kin' disappointment. The best thing in there from a metal band are the original lyrics from "Hit The Lights". Now that 'tallica is in, it's time for some more metal instead of the garbage that's been going in. Let's get some bands in that actually know how to play instruments: Priest, Maiden, Rush, Megadeth. Crue deserve it because not only are they arguably the best "hair" band ever, they are the epitome of rock 'n' roll debauchery, something that the HOF is sorely missing.

[zyprox]

vanhalen241 wrote:

Metallica... not 100% metal my butt! theyre more metal then any poser metal band who thinks theyre too tough to write GOOD MUSIC. They know good music, so they play it. Slayer (overrated, no talent), Motley Crue (good but repetetive) Anthrax (annoying, little talent), Megadeth (jealous, but a lot of talent) none of them deserve to join the Hall of Fame because none of them has reached the greatness of Metallica, nor will they ever do so. So dont't put them down.

Quoting Scott Ian (of that Anthrax band you called talentless): "Without Mustaine, there is no Metallica; without Mustaine there may be no [thrash] metal."

An insider on the Hall of Fame committee has already admitted that the foundation is rigged to select bigger names over better acts simply to sell more tickets to the induction shows.

Metallica definitely deserves to be in there, but saying that none of those other acts you listed deserve it is silly. Metallica is getting in for the same reason that Motley Crue will get in (if ever); to make money. Worst institution ever, right in front of Rolling Stones mag and the Grammy awards.

I also second Iron Maiden's induction. Maybe when their fans get old and can afford tickets to the induction ceremony, they'll get voted in.

[stondagain]

vanhalen241 wrote:

Slayer (overrated, no talent), Motley Crue (good but repetetive) Anthrax (annoying, little talent), Megadeth (jealous, but a lot of talent) none of them deserve to join the Hall of Fame because none of them has reached the greatness of Metallica, nor will they ever do so. So dont't put them down.

Thank you, sir.

[roaming_rapist]

Megadeth2011 wrote:

hm... Slayer isnt in there, Megadeth isnt, Ted Nugent isnt, Maiden isnt, Rush isnt, Kiss isnt, Alice Cooper isnt, Anthrax isnt, Testament isnt. And i dont see any of these getting in.

I love all of those bands, but the only thing is Kiss is more of a brand then a band. But they all deserve it for their influence on music.

[ndschroede23]

zyprox wrote:

An insider on the Hall of Fame committee has already admitted that the foundation is rigged to select bigger names over better acts simply to sell more tickets to the induction shows.

Metallica definitely deserves to be in there, but saying that none of those other acts you listed deserve it is silly. Metallica is getting in for the same reason that Motley Crue will get in (if ever); to make money. Worst institution ever, right in front of Rolling Stones mag and the Grammy awards.

I also second Iron Maiden's induction. Maybe when their fans get old and can afford tickets to the induction ceremony, they'll get voted in.

Who are the "best acts" if not the "biggest names"? The HoF equates best acts with biggest names - are they wrong? It would seem to me that the ability to stay relevant for years, maintaining popularity and success, is evidence of both a "good act" and a "big name". If lots and lots of people want to see you play, it's clear that you've done something right musically.

[Kerry_King_1990]

two words: Milli Vanelli. they should be in...relax, im joking, but Metallica being in does sound better, only becuase everyone says metallica is the best metal band they're not. Why? Is every album actually metal? not really, load and beyond are just, ewww. its not metal. the best metal band? - maybe Sabbath, everyone owes metal to Sabbath. Rock N Roll hall of fame is a popularity contest. most popular 'metal' band - metallica. as for: if it wasnt for metallica, there would be no megadeth. kill 'em all basically put metallica on the map - most riffs/lryics were by mustaine. metallica sold very well becuase of a huge fanbase they got becuase of mustaine. i like the black alnbum, but nothing to do with mustaine, and isnt THAT metal. And justice same thing - no mustaine influenece, not that fast. Kill em all and ride the lightening, mustaine stuff on that, their fastest albums -their most 'metal' albums - MY POINT?? i like metallica, but Mustaine put metallica where they are now, mustaine is better than kirk

[Snake™]

90's/00's Metallica is in the R&RHoF. Not he 80's Metallica,

[GIBSONroks6167]

so glad beck is finally getting in...hes such a huge inspiration on the guitar aspect of the music.

2012. GNR and Nirvana all the way baby...i am gonna b ticked if either of those bands dont get in that year or at least the next...but all things aside, metallica definately deserves to be inducted, and Run DMC too. Rush should b in though, that is definitely weird...

[GIBSONroks6167]

and please, all you hardcore metal guys, stop complaining about metallica "selling out"...does making catchy records with actually melodies make them "sell outs?" no...so seriously take it somewhere else...

[salival111]

rock n roll hall of fame is a joke. they don't have a dozen bands that deserve to be in there. and then they have a bunch of people that shouldn't be in there.

[HotDogs1]

in a few years CKY should be in there. especially with there new album coming out soon.

[pantericadeth]

Honestly.. who cares about the Rock and Roll hall of fame? We should make a UG Hall of Fame. Put all the bands we want in it. lol

[korn_dawg]

RemainingTruth wrote:

with a pop angel too...
a pop angel
pop angel
angel

SPELLCHECK!

....did you want him to put "angle" or something?

[BONE MARROW]

Metallica ftw.
slayers good, but metallicas godly.

[ndschroede23]

salival111 wrote:

rock n roll hall of fame is a joke. they don't have a dozen bands that deserve to be in there. and then they have a bunch of people that shouldn't be in there.

There could be some dispute about some people in it that don't deserve to be, but to say there aren't a dozen bands in there that deserve it? What the hell are your criteria?! I mean if you're looking for "influential" it's there. If you're looking for "creative" it's there. If you're looking for "original" it's there. If you're looking for "popular" it's definitely there. I doubt the HoF is going to apologize for not having "One of salival111's favorite bands" as a requirement for induction.

[evil_in_you]

i second that ^

[Nathan_393]

Lemmy_Burton wrote:

No, Kerry it's not that they "experimented with pop" it's that their music has a coherent string of notes.

I like some Slayer stuff. They're not my favourite band but I'm willing to acknowledge and respect them.
However, in many cases, this man is exactly correct.

[axeofoc5249]

SGibson666 wrote:

axeofoc5249 wrote:

I'd be surprised as well because Slayer really isn't a successful band. I know alot more bands that should have been in before Metallica but for now they deserve it I mean come on they put Thrash on the map. I think it's more than that though people say just because they transitioned that it was a bad thing. I do not I think it gave them more of a chance. I am a huge Metallica fan anyway but this is not biased in any way.

That seemed biased to me...

But aside from that, i would want to see Slayer in the Hall of Fame, but it's something that I doubt would happen because of the direction they take their music.

So you agree with me eh??

[5_Strings]

_Xaos_ wrote:

Fergality wrote:
For sure, it was The Black Album which propulsed them, but would that mean that Jason is better than Cliff?

It doesn't mean that Jason is better than Cliff!! your question makes no sense because jason barely cotributed to the song writing since he joined Metallica .. so the bottom line is that Cliff was the reason behind Metallica's rise.

[MetalManiac_86]

Slayer is alright. I don`t like all their stuff... I`m probably like 50-50. They have done a good bit over the years in metal, but I wouldn`t consider them Hall of Fame material.

[LedZepp9]

jamie_hough wrote:

...I think Id like to experiment with a pop angel too...

lol thats what i was thinking

[LedZepp9]

HenneB wrote:

i really like slayer but they can't let metallica be what they are. slayer is the only band i know that doesn't moved a bit from the 80s. except of seasons in the abyss every album since 1986 is a wannabe Reign in Blood.

They are not wannabe reign in blood albums just because they're also fast and heavy. Slayer has always been fast and heavy, they're not trying to recreate reign in blood, they're just playing like they always have been.

[jesussowns]

KerSkater wrote:

Mr. Chang wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

definatly agree on maiden, why the hell arent they in there? if it werent for them you probably would not have had metallica?! Plus iron maiden never released a decades worth of akward crappy cds

I take it you haven't heard any of Maiden's '90's stuff (No Prayer, Fear of the Dark, the albums with Blaze) because that constitutes a decades worth of terrible albums. Hell even their late '80's stuff was starting to show a serious quality decline.

They made a great comeback this decade though with 3 damn good albums. Them and Metallica are some of the greatest metal bands ever in that they're still relevant and making music that doesn't feel dated like most bands from the '70's and '80's that are still going today.

r u kidding? Fear of the Dark has to be one of their best albums IMO.

and yes Iron Maiden should definitely be inducted because they are an influence to so many bands. Not sure about Slayer but they r cool

Good one Mr I-am-12-and-trying-to-be-ruthless-and-cool.

[uberphreak]

IMO, Slayer is a horrible, horrible band. That aside, I think with bands like Rush and Deep Purple still not in the hall of fame, Slayer is certainly not first on anyone's mind (or shouldn't be, anyway). Despite whether you like Slayer, you have to admit there are far more influential and deserving bands that have yet to be inducted.

Checked

[Aussie_Warrior]

Agressivenapkin wrote:

Trent Reznor(NIN) should be next.

He has still got a while to go, about 7 to 9 years I think.
Anyway these Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame inductees don't mean anything plus you can't blame them for putting a "metal" band into a rock n roll hall of fame but that's debatable because music is evovling. I don't hat Slayer, I have Reign In Bloods and Seasons In The Abyss and they have some good stuff just not really die-hard.
Meh, I'll be happy if GnR gets in.

[crackhutch]

HotDogs1 wrote:

in a few years CKY should be in there. especially with there new album coming out soon.

Very very good band, but I don't think they're popular enough to get put in there. I'd love to see it though!

[Tha Funkinator]

I dunno. The R&RHoF seems like patting itself on the business, but I'm not saying this from the RAARGH METAL IS TOO HARDCORE TO BE INDUCTED perspective. It was nice to honor the original bands and rockers and preserve the original rock'n'roll lore, but now it just seems like awarding the big names for being big names.

Whither Brian Eno? His glam recordings with Roxy Music and on his own were classic, and as a producer, his fingerprints are all over texture-oriented rock music--see Talking Heads, U2 and Coldplay for some of the big names he's worked with. They'll never be inducted, but listen to the Modern Lovers' debut album and you're hearing the groundwork for jangly indie-rock thirty years before its vogue. No prog-rockers beyond Pink Floyd, no weird avant-garde guys beyond Frank Zappa; the Ramones made it in, but proto-punks like Iggy Pop or MC5 are ignored.

I've been to the R&RHoF Museum, and I like the idea of a museum of memorabilia and history, but as far as trying to make a list to define and enshrine the 'best of rock,' it's garbage because that idea itself is garbage.

[Moe-]

I for one would actually be surprised if they got in. I remember reading that Metallica and DMC got in and my whole classroom heard me scream "WHAT THE HECK?!?!"...I was reading the newspaper in class.

But anywho, I'm not the largest fan of Slayer...its just...noise...

Though I do agree with The Funkinator and Iggy/MC5 being ignored over them. And frankly, it has been brought to my attention that Run-DMC has was in the Guitar Hero Aerosmith, and Metallica is getting their own video game. In the article I read, it said something about the GH/RB franchise being one of the biggest factors in music these days, and I am sorta sad. Don't know why, don't care why.

Crackhutch: GnR would be amazing...if they were recognized for everything before, IMO, Chinese Democracy, 'cause that right there was the REAL Guns.

[IIVV]

Why is every1 sayin Kerry King is the most over rated guitarist.....i agree that he is over rated

but Hammet is the most over rated guitarist in the UNIVERSE!!!!!

[recliner33]

kgesme21 wrote:

The Stooges are the most desrving next year. If they don't get in, it will be a crime against all of humanity (or at least punk rock).

Yeah they were a nominee for this year. I was pissed when I found out that they didn't get inducted. They've been egible to get in for the past 15 years. Sure, I'll admit that the stooges were never a mainstream success, but they were one of the most influencial bands ever.

[whaip]

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

then you have to admit that venom deserves it, too!

[GS LEAD 5]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Solace123 wrote:

Am I the only person who thinks Death needs to be in there? Chuck and them pretty much started the whole death metal genre and this new deathcore stuff.

LOL
Nice to know all the good guys are being ignored....

[the starchild]

flashmdg wrote:

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

they got more poppier

no metallica is pop

since when does having songs that people can sing to, mosh, bang their heads, and throw up horns to, start being considered as pop?
what the hell is wrong with a band making it big and enjoying what they do?
metallica's talent is deserving and im glad they are being inducted. if i started a band im pretty sure my goal would be to make some money and make it to the top. after all we all want to do it in some aspect of our lives.
so \m/ for metallica and every other band who enjoys their music and playing it.

Tyler Durden wrote:

I dont like Slayer, and I dont like Metallica - but why does it always seem like KK is ridin on Metallica's nuts...he's always got a comment on them. I think deep down he wishes he was in KH's place. KK is extremely overrated, EVERYTHING that guys does sounds the same - over use of his whammy, and the same scale over and over.....get over yourself KK - and ROFL to the guy that said Slayer think they are the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw, that made my afternoon lol

and thank the rock gods that KK isnt in place of KH. KH blows KK out of the water blindfolded with one hand behind his back, but as long as KK can get to his whammy he'll live! lawl

[2trouble]

The thing everyone is ignoring is that its called the RnR Hall of FAME. Obviously popularity is the biggest factor. Metallica didnt sell out, they evolved. The Black Album(and those that followed for that matter) still has metal in it but is not purely metal like their albums had been up to that point. Im not a big Slayer fan and dont deny their influence within their genre but other than their initial sound there is nothing groundbreaking about them. For those wondering about Run DMC: Aerosmith was big when the guys from R DMC were still teens so theres no way they influenced Aerosmith - Its not just because of walk this way either, although that did heavily influence the whole Rap-Metal scene, for anyone that actually listens to some hip hop, instead of ingnorantly bashing it, early rap artist like Run DMC rapped to music that sounded more like rock n roll than anything. In some of their their early songs the guitar riffs are very prominent. I think this is a better explanation of why theyre in. There are many deserving bands that are not in, and acts that shouldnt be in simply because they are not RnR - Run DMC is in that group. I agree that the idea of a RnR HoF is good but making a list of members is bad because theres no way to measure influence, fan devotion, originality, etc. these are all open to opinion so as the saying goes "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cant please all of the people all of the time"

[tigerking615]

thrash band in Rock Hall of Fame = sellout. Like Metallica.

Although I do support Priest being inducted. Same with Maiden, I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

[the starchild]

tigerking615 wrote:

thrash band in Rock Hall of Fame = sellout. Like Metallica.

cant happen dude...as you said that would = sellout, and we wouldnt want that would we? or maybe we would like to see a good band succeed like metallica has? god forbid a band getting air time on the radio or making a music video or standing up against people stealing their music. cuz that def = the definition of selling out.
Although I do support Priest being inducted. Same with Maiden, I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

[the starchild]

damn that last post got messed up lol
cant happen dude...as you said that would = sellout, and we wouldnt want that would we? or maybe we would like to see a good band succeed like metallica has? god forbid a band getting air time on the radio or making a music video or standing up against people stealing their music. cuz that def = the definition of selling out.

[Ali-b912]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

Slayer... one word that sums up the band,
one of my favorite metal bands, incase you couldnt tell by looking at my name...
i dont think they'll get in, becuase Metallica isnt realyl %100 Metal, after the Black Album, they got more poppier and more rock to get a bigger fan base, but Slayer's too awesome to sell out or not play metal

I love how everyone calls Metallica sellouts when Slayer made those two semi nu-metal albums, and Megadeth made cryptic writings and risk which were like load and a pile of shit respectively.

Anthrax are the only one in the big 4 of thrash who always actually played thrash.

[LambOfFoden]

He's quite right, metallica have kinda bitched out. But we all knew that after some kind of monster. Focus groups and therapy aren't metal man, and the music was better when they were drunks. And i couldn't really see them hitting the rock n' roll hall of fame, because i'm sure they're lumped in there with cannibal corpse and the like where, yes, they're well known and dope as shit, but just tooooo metal to be considered in such mainstream circles

[Jazzalenko]

guitarguru4 wrote:

There's no pop in metallica...Kerry King just thinks he's the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw.

It's the Rock N' Roll hall of fame...Why is Run DMC in there?

I had the impression they were a rap group...

Your point being? He is the most hardcore thing since the chainsaw!

[devilex121]

i'm not surprised that kerry king was surprised lol!
king is pretty confident that slayer wont sell out (and so am I!)
btw, for those of you who havent noticed already
its the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame, not the metal hall of fame!
i really want megadeth to get in, but i dont think thats ever gonna happen

[decayingdave]

Slayer aren't rock&roll, they're far better than a silly hat and a hippie attitude, which is ultimately all you need to get into the hall of fame - I hope they never get in!

[diesiraex]

Ah, ok...
(readies flame-retardant suit)
Slayer = Good shit
Metallica/Megadeth/Pantera=Good shit
Iron Maiden=THE Shit

I believe I have made my point, no?

[Ozzy87_2]

Why does Kerry have to act so fuckin' though and run around showing his spiked wristbands and whatnot as no one clearly cares.

Goes to listen to Born Of Fire.

[Dr Funkenstein]

TheWickerMan666 wrote:

Iron Maiden aren't in there yet... Why's this?

Who knows what these 600 voters think? (or really care)
Iron maiden totally deserve it.
However, metallica deserve it just a little more.

[Dr Funkenstein]

Sorry, Bobby womack. wtf? you gotta be kidding.

[Dr Funkenstein]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

two words: Milli Vanelli. they should be in...relax, im joking, but Metallica being in does sound better, only becuase everyone says metallica is the best metal band they're not. Why? Is every album actually metal? not really, load and beyond are just, ewww. its not metal. the best metal band? - maybe Sabbath, everyone owes metal to Sabbath. Rock N Roll hall of fame is a popularity contest. most popular 'metal' band - metallica. as for: if it wasnt for metallica, there would be no megadeth. kill 'em all basically put metallica on the map - most riffs/lryics were by mustaine. metallica sold very well becuase of a huge fanbase they got becuase of mustaine. i like the black alnbum, but nothing to do with mustaine, and isnt THAT metal. And justice same thing - no mustaine influenece, not that fast. Kill em all and ride the lightening, mustaine stuff on that, their fastest albums -their most 'metal' albums - MY POINT?? i like metallica, but Mustaine put metallica where they are now, mustaine is better than kirk

Dude think "the mechanix" Vs "The four hoursemen"
Minor differences but which one is way better.

[Hamham272]

They are the "anti everything" including good music.

[cmstrike]

vanhalen241 wrote:
Metallica... not 100% metal my butt! theyre more metal then any poser metal band who thinks theyre too tough to write GOOD MUSIC. They know good music, so they play it. Slayer (overrated, no talent), Motley Crue (good but repetetive) Anthrax (annoying, little talent), Megadeth (jealous, but a lot of talent) none of them deserve to join the Hall of Fame because none of them has reached the greatness of Metallica, nor will they ever do so. So dont't put them down.

So you like Motley Crue over Anthrax and Slayer...and you're passing judgement on Thrash bands? That seems a little weird to me.

And what does Dave Mustaine have to be jealous of? Megadeth is awesome.

[ingames]

The mechanix of course...

[HammettFTW]

beelaal85 wrote:

sure will but i think it's megadeth turn now...

wouldnt it be funny just to piss mustaine off tho.

[Dr. Knox666]

I can't see why bands like Maiden, Megadeth, Anthrax or Slayer are not introduced but bands like Run DMC?
It's called the f...in ROCK N ROLL hall of fame. Those guys who voted for Run DMC should be put in jail for the rest of their lifes.
ROCK ON!

[sneyob]

The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is anything but Rock N Roll.

Very few bands that should be in it actually get inducted.

Someone should establish a new Hall of Fame for bands that deserve to get in without out all the ****ing rap and pop

[joshua029]

i too would be surprised if they got in...

[Kastöm]

Im not gonna bother insulting the hall of fame because as any musician with half a brain already knows, the whole thing is a disgrace to music.

Simply put, no SRV= no hall of fame. The fact they haven't inducted SRV in just shows how little they know about anything. Not that I would want them to induct SRV, that would be a slap in the face for a great performer.

[Jackolas]

I'm starting my own rock and roll hall of fame on the patio of my back garden - I estimate there are around 200 slabs - who wants to be inducted?

[Mulldarran]

Kerry_King_1990 wrote:

Slayer... one word that sums up the band,
one of my favorite metal bands, incase you couldnt tell by looking at my name...
i dont think they'll get in, becuase Metallica isnt realyl %100 Metal, after the Black Album, they got more poppier and more rock to get a bigger fan base, but Slayer's too awesome to sell out or not play metal

Ever heard of a little thing called Diabolus In Musica?

[rebornmaster9]

if megadeth ever appeared in the hall of fame, i'd kill myself, dave mustaine is the bigest dick ever.

slayer deserves it, kerry king is an awsome guitarist and he isn't scared to say what he wants when he wants, i respect that.

[Metal Onslaught]

Gargantuan wrote:

Why isn't Rush in yet?

+1 agreed. Rush is pretty amazing, even though I'm not a huge fan.

I like Slayer too, but shit man, every time I read stuff about them, its like they seem to think they are the most hardcore band that ever existed. I also find that Slayer has a lot of shit talk about Metallica these days, which is just unwarranted.

[metacarpi]

RemainingTruth wrote:

with a pop angel too...
a pop angel
pop angel
angel

SPELLCHECK!

The word's correctly spelt.

[Kastöm]

Jackolas wrote:

I'm starting my own rock and roll hall of fame on the patio of my back garden - I estimate there are around 200 slabs - who wants to be inducted?

try doing the opposite of the rock n roll hall of fame and actually induct good bands. That means no Madonna. God speed my friend.

[mcfreaki]

Slayer certainly deserve to get into the hall of fame!

[blueriver]

Who cares if it means selling out. I see kerry king on VH1. It's not like slayer is super underground metal. They are about as unknown as LOL Judas Priest. If they are going to start inducting people they should make a hall of fame called the Thrash hall of fame. Rock n Roll is too loose of a term, and makes me think of Elvis.

[ndschroede23]

metacarpi wrote:

RemainingTruth wrote:

with a pop angel too...
a pop angel
pop angel
angel

SPELLCHECK!

The word's correctly spelt.

The word's correctly spelt.
word's correctly spelt
correctly spelt
spelt

[Kerry_King_1990]

1) Diablous was sick, it was awesome
2) Mechanix V Four Horseman - does it matter? both were by mustaine
3) best metallica record without ant mustaine influne = Masters
4) Mustaine has more talent than kirk. Its true. kirk pwns me at gutiar, kirk is more of a nice guy than dave hands down, but just becuase mustaine might be a pain, doesnt mean he sucks at guitar. alot of the old megadeth stuff is better, not to mention he can play that while super drunk and super high while singing.
5) who ever said korn should get in - 25 years since first record release plus no. Maiden? not in = proves hall of fame is a joke. Pantera? not 25 years.
6) stop naming bands that should be in. I think Maiden should be in, and i think korn shouldnt be in. does it affect the people who decide this? no
7) Kerry King is better at guitar than almost most people on this site
8) Slayer plays thrash/speed - Reign In Blood, melodic - south of heaven, and i guess 'black' (lyrically, not the way araya sings) for God Hates us All, there arent releaseing the smae album everytime

[SmileOfHavok]

SimpleMan008 wrote:

guitaringnathan wrote:

i say tool needs to get in, maynard is god

they can't yet

YET!

[thewickerman512]

Slow_N_Low wrote:

Slayer won't get in because they are extremely overrated.

And Metallica isn't?

[Holy-Diver]

to everyone who said that mustaine made metallica, you guys are fvcking idiots. master of puppets (metallicas crowning achievement) had nothing of mustaine in it. and who said that mustaine wrote all metallicas early sh*t? im pretty sure he didnt

[KeepOnRotting]

ndschroede23 wrote:

metacarpi wrote:

RemainingTruth wrote:

with a pop angel too...
a pop angel
pop angel
angel

SPELLCHECK!

The word's correctly spelt.

The word's correctly spelt.
word's correctly spelt
correctly spelt
spelt

It's angle. As in "right angle". Not angel, as in god's got lots of angels.

[Conformist]

I'd be surprised if Slayer got in too.

[FireBirdKing]

Holy-Diver wrote:

metallica deserves it. it seems like i always see slayer complaining about something metallica related...

Him along with mustaine. although mustaine did impress me with his interview in Some kind of monster.
jealous much?

[FireBirdKing]

Why isnt Testament noted at all....

[FireBirdKing]

Holy-Diver wrote:

to everyone who said that mustaine made metallica, you guys are fvcking idiots. master of puppets (metallicas crowning achievement) had nothing of mustaine in it. and who said that mustaine wrote all metallicas early sh*t? im pretty sure he didnt

the only songs he wrote that they kept would have been in kill em all. although he had something to do with ride the lightening. sorry for the triple post..

[Ultimate_Taffy]

I think Mr King needs to realise he is an artist in his own right not just tacked onto Metalicas shadow.
Whether or not Slayer are decent is a total other kettle of fish.

Also we are anti everything?
Well no you're not you pander to the hardcore thrash crowd. So you aren't anti everything really are you?
It's not like you're part of the Dada art movement or something (shameless art mention)

[Emberwolf06]

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

Metallica were a huge part in shaping the landscape of heavy metal music for over two decades, along with other notable bands like Slayer, Motley Crue, Megadeth and Anthrax to name a few.

WOAH WHAT?! how did motley crue sneak in there?!!?..

In case you didn't know, Motley Crue arew Hair Metal, still metal no matter which way you look at it.

[Fergality]

andyscoot wrote:

Fergality wrote:

In my opinion Slayer are ****in shit, they'll never grow the stones to stray away from two minute songs and chromatic scales. Also in my opinion, Kerry King is one of the most overrated guitar players of all time..I hate the way they feel the need to comment on everything Metallica do too.

I'm not a fan of most Metallica since Load but at least they're true to themselves and don't make shit poseur music because they're too scared to alienate their fanbase.

Slayer want to play thrash metal, so they play thrash metal, not because theyre scared to try other things, and uh, kerry king gets a lot of shit off guitarists, id say he is rated honestly.

Youre talking out of your arse

Fair point if you think Slayer want to play the same thing for their entire career, I just find it hard to believe that a group of musicians playing in the same band for a quarter of a century could possibly want to write the same kind of music over and over again for themselves. But hey, I'm not in Slayer.

And if you think Kerry King is rated fairly you, my friend are talking out of your arse. Not only does he probably think hes the shit himself (judging by the way he goes on) but he also has every other fifteen year-old narrow minded Slayer fan saying he's the best guitar player on the planet.

[Kerry_King_1990]

And if you think Kerry King is rated fairly you, my friend are talking out of your arse. Not only does he probably think hes the shit himself (judging by the way he goes on) but he also has every other fifteen year-old narrow minded Slayer fan saying he's the best guitar player on the planet.[/quote]

why does everyone say Slayer fans are like 14-15?
i know so many people who are int heir early 20s who love Slayer.
and Slayer's one of my favorite metal bands, but i dont think Kerry King is the best guitarist, i think hes an awesome metal gutiarist
anyways - Slayer influnced alot of bands, like Pantera (also one of my favorites) i watched VH1 behind the music pantera - they were hair metal until they heard Slayer and Metallica - so thats one band influnced by Slayer, and not to mention every local (death) metal band where i live

[c21vin]

As much as I like Slayer it does seem like every song just blends together with all the rest of their music. They do have a few classics, but truthfully they're resume just won't be good enough for the Hall of Fame.

I also agree that Kerry is a bit overrated. I think he tries too hard to act like he's the meanest guys on the planet. I've heard lots of times that Jeff should get most of the credit instead of Kerry.

[southern_stylin]

HotDogs1 :
remember when slayer tried to do nu-metal? i wouldn't be surprised if they changed into a metal-core band just to get more money.

What the hell are you going on about? No, I don't remember. And what the hell is metal-core. Shouldn't you be in school?

[papercuteye]

There jealous

[KeepOnRotting]

southern_stylin wrote:

HotDogs1 :
remember when slayer tried to do nu-metal? i wouldn't be surprised if they changed into a metal-core band just to get more money.

What the hell are you going on about? No, I don't remember. And what the hell is metal-core. Shouldn't you be in school?

Diabolus in Musica. And for metalcore, see Killswitch Engage.

[HardRockKid]

I think slayer doesnt like metallica very much

[HardRockKid]

and to fergality or who ever said he was gonna be flammed.... metallica did make a fast thrash/metal album that sounded lik theyre fist four albums and that album is called death magnetic, end of the line, that was just your life, all nightmare long, broken beat and scarred, my apocalypse those are all fast awesome metal songs so after st anger they got more metal contradictory to what u said.

[shredtildeath]

GIBSONroks6167 wrote:

and please, all you hardcore metal guys, stop complaining about metallica "selling out"...does making catchy records with actually melodies make them "sell outs?" no...so seriously take it somewhere else...

Those who don't actually know anything about metal should gtfo and stop posting about things they don't understand. Slayer have melodies in their songs, just not the shit your mom will start randomly humming.

The thing is that Metallica made a lot of craptastic shit after the black album, culminating in St. Anger one of the worst albums ever made. Yes they were sellouts, because they left their incredible 80s shit to do the more commercial black album, and only a total douche would say that Sad But True is better than say, Harvester of Sorrow.

As for Slayer, yes there are better bands, but the fact is they are a huge influence on loads of bands, especially with Reign in Blood, South of Heaven and Seasons. Anyone who thinks that RiB sounds like SitA should actually listen to both albums before they jump on this retarded bandwagon. And just because a band doesn't change style doesn't make them shit, I mean, does anybody here hate Maiden because they didn't try doing an album with no NWOBHM elements in it? Exactly. If a band still want to play in the same style it's their decision, and if you want to listen to a different style of music then just LISTEN TO ANOTHER FUCKING BAND. I mean Hammerfall are another band who have never changed their style for nearly 20 years and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Wanting to evolve or change style is what gave rise to the later Metallica albums, or the latest Cryptopsy. If they don't know how to go in a different style, they should just stick to what they know.

Also **** the tard who says Slayer have only 14 year old fans, their concerts have a lot of older fans who are in their 40s now. Dumb 14/15 year olds think Trivium or Bullshit for my valentine are awesome, and there are far too many on this site.

And if someone is unfamiliar with any of the band examples, then refer to the first paragraph.

[SirShredfast]

Metal Onslaught wrote:
I also find that Slayer has a lot of shit talk about Metallica these days, which is just unwarranted.

Well Kerry said around the St. Anger days I think... that Metallica is a sinking ship

but now that Death Magnetic is as good and successful as it is, he's been proven wrong

[KeepOnRotting]

shredtildeath wrote:

-long post-

You turn me on when you get all fired up like that. But for the most part I agree with you.

[ndschroede23]

The thing is that Metallica made a lot of craptastic shit after the black album, culminating in St. Anger one of the worst albums ever made. Yes they were sellouts, because they left their incredible 80s shit to do the more commercial black album, and only a total douche would say that Sad But True is better than say, Harvester of Sorrow.[/qupte]

[quote]Dumb 14/15 year olds think Trivium or Bullshit for my valentine are awesome, and there are far too many on this site.

Are people with different opinions than you always dumb/douches?

[ndschroede23]

eh. I suck at doing quote boxes apparently.

[Charlie4]

Angle ≠ Angel !!!!! Of course it will be right if you spell check it - that's how you spell Angel.

Anyhow, back to business, if I'm correct you get into the Hall of Fame for popularity(record sales) and influnce. Now here's a good question:

Why wasn't Maiden inducted?

As far as album sales go I would say 70 million+ deserves a spot not to mention the enormous impact they had on rock/metal. Anyone ever heard a harmony being played (no sh*t). They may not have started it but they definately revolutionized harmonies in general.

IRON MAIDEN is one of the bands that most deserve an induction.

Okay, I'm done ranting.

[2trouble]

Kastöm wrote: ...Simply put, no SRV= no hall of fame.

Fuckin Ay! Everyone can argue as to whether metal should be in the HoF or if you have to sell out to be inducted, but SRV played RnR and blues(RnRs daddy) and remained true to form. He was well liked by everyone from Albert King to John Mayer, Clapton, Jagger, etc. in other words artists who are either well known, or pioneers and he isnt in. Thats the biggest disapointment IMO.

[LeoXmayhem]

I have now brought it upon myself to join the judging board of the RaR: HoF in order to faithfully represent the Metal, and all of it's subgenres, community.

And hey, last time I checked, Metal was an offshoot of rock and roll. Should their be more metal bands in the HoF? Hell yes! Will there be? Sadly, not as many as I would like. I can see guys like Megadeth, Maiden for sure and maaaaaybe even Pantera, but I would like to see a band from the Gottenburg scene (Arch Enemy, In Flames), who revolutionized the whole Melodic Death Metal scene.

[LeoXmayhem]

Sorry for the DP, but I forgot to add:

"Fat Chance."

At the end of my last post.

[godforbid33]

well, i think it was Metallica's Producer Bob Rock who ruined it for them. remember, he produced the albums in the 90's!( The black album to st. anger)

[aquagrave]

Ahahaha all you haters make me laugh both bands have put in the hard yards and both deserve to be there man how many of you guys can say you have all the experience and career highs and lows as these guys not many I bet.Both bands deserve their dues.And all that bollocks about nu /thrash/death/black/battle/symphonic/metal. Man at the end of the day it is all just rock and roll with attitude

[stoop]

Metallica do selling out.I dont know why,maybe they just wanting to experimenting their selves.Even though Load/Reload is crap,it is a great rock album.If let say Silverchair or King Of Leon made these album,it will be their best album.St Anger isnt total crap.Some of the song can be a great one if they put more effort in it.And they are very heavy too.Death Magnetic is okay,at least it better than Christ Illusion.Yeah,Christ Illusion is trash,but its plain boring.Testament also keep creating trash,and their latest album is a great one and full with memorable riff.But Slayer fans keep saying Christ Ilusion is a great album.Well,not to my ear.As I just said earlier,its plain boring.