Metallica's 'Death Magnetic': Modern Version Of And Justice For All?

Metallica is putting the finishing touches on their highly anticipated album "Death Magnetic" and it was recently revealed that the album will be released as a box set with a demos disc, DVD, T Shirt and other collectibles. The record, which is set for a release in September of 2008 was recorded at the bands studio in the Bay Area and was produced by the legendary Rick Rubin.

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We caught up with Metallica's lead guitarist, Kirk Hammett recently to get his thoughts on the album being completely different from anything they've done in the past, although he did compare it to a more modern, less progressive version of "And Justice For All."

Kirk Hammett On New Metallica Record Being A More Modern And Justice For All

"Completely different. I couldn't even begin to tell you. We're playing around with the fact that we have a new band member who is just an amazing musician, that being Robert Trujillo. We're tapping into a lot of the things he has to offer, which is quite a bit and the music is landing in a different spot. I would like to say that it's somewhere around where 'And Justice For All' was but not as progressive. But then again, it sounds modern at the same time, to me."

Hammett also went on to add there were no psychiatrists and head doctors needed during the recording of "Death Magnetic" and with Rubin's hands off approach to producing, the band were clearly more focused and for that reason, the album is sounding good.

Kirk Hammett On New Metallica Album Sounding Good

"No wacky Doctors, there isn't even a producer there you know living every second of studio time with us. It's just us four and maybe a guitar tech and maybe a guy to answer the front door. But it's great because we can just totally focus and we get good results quickly too. And we're all pysched because it sounds good."

The "Death Magnetic" box set, dubbed the "coffin box," features a demo CD, a "making of" documentary DVD, a T-shirt, guitar picks, a Metallica flag and a poster. Metallica are also releasing a special edition version via the band's website for their fans, which arrives with a code redeemable for a download of a special European show happening in September. Look for the band to announce a definitive September release date in the near future. Metallica are set to start a brief European run of tour dates beginning July 16th in Norway and extending until August 24th in The U.K. The band does have one U.S. show booked, which is the bands performance at Ozzfest in Texas on August 8th. Also slated to perform at Ozzfest, which is a one off show in 2008 instead of a full blown tour are Ozzy Osbourne, Serj Tankian (System of a Down), Hellyeah, Jonathan Davis (Korn), Sevendust, Devil Driver and Drowning Pool, to name just a few.

Comments

[Reiatsu]

OKAY Can someone please remove the above two posts? I keep forgetting that the 'less than' completely messes up posts... Let me try ONE more time.

It sounds like }}Death MagnetiC{{ is going to be their best album in a long time. If it's going to be a return to AJfA and not just the black album then I have a feeling this is going to be one of the best years for music in my lifetime at least (I'm 21 btw =P )

*okay hopefully this goes through okay \m/, stay metal!

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

i thought they already anounced a release date? like it was already a news story on here where the title was "METALLICA ANNOUNCES RELEASE DATE"

[sucay]

just release it man, just release it

[Red33]

So when you run out of ideas just repeat the old stuff okay...

[mudfrog]

Ok let's just wait and see shall we.
It has to be better than the last effort. And yes there was stuff going on at the time blah blah blah but c'mon fella's get ur act together.

I'm a fan by the way. I saw them at Wembley last year and it kick butt.

So I've got everything crossed for this to be good.

Now stop talking about it and get it out there!!!!

[lilboisX3]

I'll say it again, nothing Metallica do will relive their glory days nor will it have much of an impact on metal. They have been far surpassed in their genre.

[Absent Mind]

If it was based on ...AJFA I will f**king orgasm, thats their best album IMO

so AJFA with bass would be amazing!!!

[godberry]

...so they need a guy to answer the front door for them?

ha. that's okay. i love metallica and i'm really looking forward to this album.

[farfaraway]

How come it's about the whole band, with Kirk being interviewed, yet Lars Ulrich's pic is on the headline? :P

[tommyt]

"we have a new band member who is just an amazing musician, that being Robert Trujillo. We're tapping into a lot of the things he has to offer"

once again we need a bassist to tell us what to do.

[Enigma829]

i'm pumped for the box set!
i really need some Metallica shwag.
does anyone know how much its gonna cost?

[Guitar_Jester]

I don't need more info, I need the new album!

[arg_89]

I wish they would release the damn thing. I'm a fan and cannot wait to buy and hear the new album, but I'm getting so tired of all the talk.

[Sad But False]

sounds dood

[oldschoolthrash]

This is gonna be great...I hope. I'm just sick of them comparing to old albums because that's what raises people's expectations, which makes the album seem worse than they really are when they are not at all similar. But after hearing Remember Tomorrow, they may pull off the impossible, because James sounds great in standard tuning!

[mtllica]

I almost cried when I read the AJFA part...amazing news lol...now we just need a single!!

[5_Strings]

I've always been the biggest metallica fan and defender on earth .. but after seeing them at PinkPop ... man I'm sad ..

[Bullethead]

a modern AjFa? i don't like the sound of that.

[riffer_raffer]

after all the bloody hype this better be worth it!

[HavokStrife]

RELEASE SINGLE!

[Orion999]

Lilbois, I find your lack of respect disturbing. How much "glory" need one band offer the world? Metallica have offered four albums of metallic brilliance arguably unsurpassed by any other. They say lightning never strikes the same place twice, and yet here it has struck at least four times. You would do well to remember that Metallica's other albums are not "bad." No, they certainly don't hold a candle to the four monoliths which with they began their career, but by any other measurement they are good albums. Add to that that Metallica still are an incredible live act despite the onset of middle age and family life, and I think you owe them respect for their dedication to their art. I suppose you fancy bands like Lamb of God and Slipknot the pinnacles of metaldom now; ask them who they worship, because all I hear is the downpicking James Hetfield immortalized and the shredding Kirk Hammet imposed upon unsuspecting guitar necks.

[Ratt n' Roll]

well, st. anger ****in' sucked ass, lets see if they can make up for putting that piece of shit out. I am a huge metallica fan, so i'll give th new album a shot, will it be good, well see what the fans think.

[Inthekeyofbmino]

Metallica: Death Magnetic will be released in september of 2008...
Me: Sha! And a monkey might fly out of my butt!


i bet it gets delayed....

[DimebagRob]

A modern and Justice for all? should be good, I'm really looking forward to this, already pre-ordered it.

[Evil Shredder]

WHATS GONNA BE THE 'ONE' SONG? IT BETTER BE AS AMAZING AS ONE

[leftykid]

Metallica: Death Magnetic will be released in september of 2008...
Me: Sha! And a monkey might fly out of my butt!

LOL! im hoping its good!

[thedarkblues06]

highwind5150 wrote:

A nutty version of ...And Justic For All. A very nutty version.

...the first time I've given a -1. Seriously, dude, it's over.

Oh shi-...another AJfA? I can't FREAKIN' WAIT!

[ironBLSmaiden]

well, st. anger ****in' sucked ass, lets see if they can make up for putting that piece of shit out. I am a huge metallica fan, so i'll give th new album a shot, will it be good, well see what the fans think.

yea st. anger did suck ass. hopefully this one will be better, but for some reason i dont hae a good feeling about it

[Seanold]

im not really a huge fan of metallica, though i do like some of their stuff, i just hope the new one isnt like st anger:P

checked

[St.Loony]

I liked St.Anger. No, it wasn't like there other stuff but bands have to experiment and I thought it was a good record.

["Tele" Steve]

I'm hoping the box set isn't the only way to buy the album. I don't need any of that extra crap.

[koolfoolinapool]

lilboisX3 wrote:

I'll say it again, nothing Metallica do will relive their glory days nor will it have much of an impact on metal. They have been far surpassed in their genre.

But without them there would be nobody to surpass them in their genre.

[CanCan]

yes!

[getaddicted]

i think the album will probably suck but i guess i will have to see

[FireMadeFlesh]

I'm looking forward to Death Magnetic, but I don't want to get my hopes up and be disappointed :/

[boyan89]

METALLICA!!! might be seeing em July 25th and i hope this record is heavy, and classic Metallica.

[salsawords]

Evil Shredder wrote:

WHATS GONNA BE THE 'ONE' SONG? IT BETTER BE AS AMAZING AS ONE

Do you like guitar hero much?

[MXFNCK]

let's talk some more about it

[SethMegadefan]

Does anyone remember a couple months before St. Anger came out, and Lars was saying the exact same thing? That it was going to sound like Justice?
Yeah, I'm not falling for it a second time. I'll keep my expectations cautiously low.

[jay358]

yay i can't wait to download this album 4 free!!! that way if they totally blew it, i can delete it and not have to suffer the waste of money!

[DukeFame]

I have mixed feelings about this but at least its got the word "Death" in the title hopefully the cover will be better than load lol

[Rocker_94]

This should be an awesome album. Hopefully it's Justice pt. 2 and not St. Anger pt. 2

[MusicalMinority]

I do have to say, Trujillo is a brilliant bassist. I'm definitely thinking this is going to be amazing.

[Nightstrider]

koolfoolinapool wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

I'll say it again, nothing Metallica do will relive their glory days nor will it have much of an impact on metal. They have been far surpassed in their genre.

But without them there would be nobody to surpass them in their genre.

Nonesense. Metallica were very influential, but to propose that they are responsible for every thrash bands' development is ridiculous.

Also, what is the point of these "updates"? Everything in this one was already said in previous ones, and it's basically all to the effect of "This is gonna be the best one ever!!1" Okay, I've got it, put up or shut up already.

[Raven_Flight]

oh man
this kind of news make people think that tallica will record another and justice for all... and kirk didn't mean that if you hear what he said!
I just have influences in the sound, that's true looking at what we already heard from the album
anyway, justice is my favorite album of all time, of all history so... FUCK YEAH

[NightEmbers]

LESS PROGRESSIVE!

why?!

[Darth_MaVeRiCk]

respect for kirk

[CSoup369]

I'm praying it's like AJFA but when you're all tremendously disappointed ill lmao.

[RockInPeaceDime]

farfaraway wrote:

How come it's about the whole band, with Kirk being interviewed, yet Lars Ulrich's pic is on the headline? :P

Cause he's the head and founder of the band? Is it that big of a deal?

[WhyteChocl8]

I cant wait for this much longer just been hearing great stuff aboout it hope it is as good as the hype. METALLICA\m/

[Mr. Parker]

AJFA was the best album, everyone love MOP but whatever. If they can pull off a less progressive yet mature sounding AJFA then they might see where they should have headed years ago...but then again, have to hear it first...

[lmb.f.gd's lamb]

man i cant wait!!

[heavyprog]

i don't know what it is, but in the last couple of years Metallica has dropped significantly in my list of favourite bands. I mean, even stuff like the Puppets album I have a hard time listening to all the way through. But, I guess when you're a DT fan, everything else seems so boring.

[boomtank]

farfaraway wrote:

How come it's about the whole band, with Kirk being interviewed, yet Lars Ulrich's pic is on the headline? :P

seriously, who cares?

OT: they shouldn't make the album this 'big' before its release, it can only disappoint people like St. Anger did. ...And Justice For All in a new modern jacket sounds great, though!

[jakehendrixman]

LMAO nice shirt Hammett

[Inthekeyofbmino]

this band is like a politician running for president....they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear and then you'll be extremely disappointed later.

[ordinary_story]

If that is true.....then this will be amazing! but....this is metallica.....

[mikey son]

NightEmbers wrote:

LESS PROGRESSIVE!

why?!

modernized

[MuRph83]

Inthekeyofbmino wrote:

this band is like a politician running for president....they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear and then you'll be extremely disappointed later.

agreed.

I hate comparisons to old albums, especially their best album (in my opinion). It usually just raises expectations that end in disappointment. Although, I am confident this album will be better than St. Anger. "a more modern, less progressive version of and justice for all".....in others words, it sounds nothing like and justice for all.

[homair]

Isn't that an old video? I saw a video last year on youtube where Kirk was talking about the new album and he was wearing the exact same clothes and sunglasses.

[SLD.Potato]

>>Death Magnetic

[Dog454]

...Kirk seems to be having some problems there. A lot of stuttering and such, probably all the anxiety of worrying about whether or not the new album will fail hard or not.

[slpknt21]

its either going to really good.....or really bad.

[goon316]

Less progressive = less excited for this.

[DieYouBastard]

This one's either going to blow our minds and restore Metallica to their former glory, or bore the shit out of us and destroy what little faith we had left in Metallica.

[DSchmitty]

You guys are pathetic, the album will be good, the only reason being James and Kirk got taught guitar theory(mind you Kirk already knew a lot), but they are getting back to the Justice days, with their guitar playing and his voice is the best it's been ever.

IMO it won't be like Justice, the album was good, but crap from a musician's prospective, nothing flowed right and sounded like the whole thing was made in about 2 seconds, riffs were repeated that shouldn't of been because there was better ones, and parts dragged on, not to mention the lyrics were dogshit, but still one of my favorites, but behind Lightning, Kill, and Master.

[St.Loony]

I'm only looking forwad to it cause of the two songs I've already heard that could possibley be on the album and there both f*cking amazing.

[cukd7x-a2-]

rule of thumb for metallica, bad album name = bad album
examples
Load, Reload, St. Anger...

Checked!

[murraysmithgers]

After they ran out of Dave Mustaine's ideas, they were able to put out one good album of thrash metal, then they just either sold out or ran out of good ideas...whereas Megadeth has evolved to become commercially appealing while still being thrash...that is why Mustaine is a genius, for Megadeth and for the majority of the first 3 albums..

[Mattallica1]

Its going to be there best album since the black album without a dought

[jthm_guitarist]

Weeeell
If Kirk says it's good than maybe it really is good...

[-MetalUpYourAss]

why is there so much talk of their new album its getting really annoyin

[MetallicAJP]

This will definately be their best album in a while!!!
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

[metalonastrat]

murraysmithgers wrote:

After they ran out of Dave Mustaine's ideas, they were able to put out one good album of thrash metal, then they just either sold out or ran out of good ideas...whereas Megadeth has evolved to become commercially appealing while still being thrash...that is why Mustaine is a genius, for Megadeth and for the majority of the first 3 albums..

Dude, Dave didn't release a thing with Metallica and he was in the band for only a year or so. Megadeth today = Megadeth 20 years ago. Metallica evolves.

[Led4UrHead88]

i trust kirk... he doesnt usually say much and if he is saying its going to be like justice then its probably going to be awesome

[Infamou$17]

"although he did compare it to a more modern, less progressive version of 'And Justice For All.'"

...So the songs will be easier on Rock Band 3 than all the other ones that are playable in the games now, and we still won't be able to hear the bass good, if at all

[salsawords]

metalonastrat wrote:

murraysmithgers wrote:

After they ran out of Dave Mustaine's ideas, they were able to put out one good album of thrash metal, then they just either sold out or ran out of good ideas...whereas Megadeth has evolved to become commercially appealing while still being thrash...that is why Mustaine is a genius, for Megadeth and for the majority of the first 3 albums.. Dude, Dave didn't release a thing with Metallica and he was in the band for only a year or so. Megadeth today = Megadeth 20 years ago. Metallica sells out.

Fixed

[Beathan83]

slpknt21 wrote:

its either going to really good.....or really bad.

Or just ok.

[Jondy]

Beathan83 wrote:

slpknt21 wrote:

its either going to really good.....or really bad.

Or just ok.

or maybe in between ok and really something? could be anywhere from, say, 1 to 10, on a scale of 1 to 10.

[raulrocks]

i hope its better than master... because dats my favorit metallica album

[raulrocks]

ride the lightning is really good too

[raulrocks]

theyre all good except4 st. anger which wasnt really that great

[anthony4326]

people are making a big deal about this record...
geez....

[lilboisX3]

Orion999 wrote:

Lilbois, I find your lack of respect disturbing. How much "glory" need one band offer the world? Metallica have offered four albums of metallic brilliance arguably unsurpassed by any other. They say lightning never strikes the same place twice, and yet here it has struck at least four times. You would do well to remember that Metallica's other albums are not "bad." No, they certainly don't hold a candle to the four monoliths which with they began their career, but by any other measurement they are good albums. Add to that that Metallica still are an incredible live act despite the onset of middle age and family life, and I think you owe them respect for their dedication to their art. I suppose you fancy bands like Lamb of God and Slipknot the pinnacles of metaldom now; ask them who they worship, because all I hear is the downpicking James Hetfield immortalized and the shredding Kirk Hammet imposed upon unsuspecting guitar necks.

Wow, the ignorance is astounding. First and foremost, I never said they aren't influencial. They are past their time and I highly doubt, with good reason, that will be able to do anything more than make a "good" album. It will not be mindblowing.

Secondly, Slipknot and LoG suck dick and if you think for a second that they are popular outside MTV circles as true metal innovators, then you are wrong. Metallica has been far surpassed within metal. Hell I'm not going to name bands because if you listened to the genre outside of hardrocktica you'd know better.

Nonesense. Metallica were very influential, but to propose that they are responsible for every thrash bands' development is ridiculous.

YOU! learn how to read. I never said they are responsible for every thrash band, Hell they damn near abandoned thrash all together. Kill Em All honestly was the only thrash metal album they released.

[MonsterOfRock]

Isn't this an old interview from the MusiCares foundation thingy where Hetfield was honoured or something?

Eitherway, enough with the same news all the time. Let it roll out first.
Oh wait, then UG won't have anything to write about!

Second note, I doubt that theres as complex stuff as "Blackened" or "The Frayed Ends of Sanity" for it to be compared to Justice. Complexity was Justice' charm.

[Shaharz]

GOD DAMMIT
if they keep talking about this album i will not buy it, just to be mean.

[MonsterOfRock]

lilboisX3 wrote:

I'll say it again, nothing Metallica do will relive their glory days nor will it have much of an impact on metal. They have been far surpassed in their genre.

Who gives a sh*t about metalness? eg. Pantera is a better metal band than Metallica, doesn't mean Pantera is better all together than Metallica. If its good music, listen to it or vice versa. Though ur right about the glory days thing, but unfortunately its 2008 and Metallica for one, has evolved beyond the metal stereotype.

[Inthekeyofbmino]

this album is being OVERHYPED

just like that movie 300. it was a great movie but not as great as everyone was making it out to be...

[joshua029]

yeah, well.... i love hammett

[koalabacon]

kirk hammets got a funny voice

[randyaintdead82]

so it will be AJFA with a touch of Kill em all

[Billy Picken]

I'm really hoping....Metallica returns to their roots and gives us an album as kick ass as either Ride the lightning or Master of Puppets. I'm really hoping....

[superjoint2112]

Red33 :
So when you run out of ideas just repeat the old stuff okay...

every one says they want metallica to play like they used to dipshit how is that running outta ideas its not like its going to be a complete riff for riff rip off of...AJFA

[restless_thrash]

Kirk the frog? He really Sounds like kermit hammet...

[Inthekeyofbmino]

holy shit its kermit the frog!

[CliffIsAngry]

Rocker_94 wrote:

This should be an awesome album. Hopefully it's Justice pt. 2 and not St. Anger pt. 2

st. anger is the best they have made since 91. that's alot of years ago.

[areese82]

I hope it's like And Justice. I think that was thier best album

[Untitled001]

Inthekeyofbmino wrote:

Metallica: Death Magnetic will be released in september of 2008...
Me: Sha! And a monkey might fly out of my butt!


i bet it gets delayed....

No.. They've completed it..

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

i really hope this is a good record, i couldn't stand another disappointment from these guys. kirk's voice always sounds way out of place when i hear him lol, it always catches me off guard.

[manutd4lyf]

Just release the ****ing album already

[Page/Rhoads]

Justice is the album that started Metallica's fall downhill.

[guitar_god1293]

Red33 wrote:

So when you run out of ideas just repeat the old stuff okay...

lol i know, metallica will never be able to rise at their old level. they're not that good anymore, they should stop releasing albums os the world will remember metallica in its most triumphant moments,and not as old farts who can't make good music anymore

[Vypor]

Boy oh boy.. After reading the headline, then reading the majority of these comments.. i have to say that alot of you people have a misconception.. I dont think this album is going to have anything to do with And justice for all, its probably just going to sound a bit similar, which would mean it would sound similar to puppets and lightning aswelll, becuase all those albums came out back to back.

St. Anger was a dissapointment, I wont argue with anyone there, and noone is going to know how this album sounds until the've heard it. So why dont you all just hold your horses, and wait to blast your opinions until after you've heard it.

Myself, im very intrested in hearing the new album, no matter how shitty the music may or may not get, Metallica will always have a place in my CD collection becuase thier one of my biggest inspirations.

[BlisteringDDj]

Page/Rhoads wrote:

Justice is the album that started Metallica's fall downhill.

No it didn't! Metallica (The Album that is) started it. ...And Justice For all is the best they have ever done! (next to Kill 'em All and Master Of Puppets). I hope this album will be good, not for Metallica's sake, but for the fans'. Haha! I liked St. Anger, but AJFA is my favorite by them, so this surprised me a little. If it's good, maybe I'll end up buying it.

[demiphoenix]

How do you get less progressive than ...AJFA?

[Flying Afros]

I like the fact that it will be like AJFA. But he said not as progressive, which I liked about it. Oh well, I'm still looking forward to this.

To the guy that said Justice was the start of their downfall, its actually one of their finest and most technically complex albums they made. Learn what you're talking about next time dumbass.

[Kevin97220]

AJFA with bass!? yes!!

[BrainScan]

Orion999 wrote:

Lilbois, I find your lack of respect disturbing. How much "glory" need one band offer the world? Metallica have offered four albums of metallic brilliance arguably unsurpassed by any other. They say lightning never strikes the same place twice, and yet here it has struck at least four times. You would do well to remember that Metallica's other albums are not "bad." No, they certainly don't hold a candle to the four monoliths which with they began their career, but by any other measurement they are good albums. Add to that that Metallica still are an incredible live act despite the onset of middle age and family life, and I think you owe them respect for their dedication to their art. I suppose you fancy bands like Lamb of God and Slipknot the pinnacles of metaldom now; ask them who they worship, because all I hear is the downpicking James Hetfield immortalized and the shredding Kirk Hammet imposed upon unsuspecting guitar necks.

At least the other guy didn't name himself after a Metallica song, fanboy.

[LetsGoRedskins]

Page/Rhoads wrote:

Justice is the album that started Metallica's fall downhill.

Let's set the record straight right now.....

"Kill 'Em All", "Ride The Lightning", and "Master" will always be their "glory days" albums....

After Burton died and Newsted joined, the band started to go downhill....

"AJFA" sounded like shit, was repetitive and boring...
They sacrificed melody and hook.....

"The Black Album" was a commercial success, and was only enjoyed by the average radio listener or music fan...
Sell-outs.....

"Load" and "Re-Load" were also sell-outs.....

I have to admit I like a few songs from "Garage".....

"St.Anger", like all the albums since Burton died, was lame but had a couple of decent songs.....

I love Trujillo and what he did with Suicidal Tendencies, but Metallica started to lose their credibility once Newsted joined.....

[mtllica]

LetsGoRedskins wrote:

Page/Rhoads wrote:

Justice is the album that started Metallica's fall downhill.


Let's set the record straight right now.....

"Kill 'Em All", "Ride The Lightning", and "Master" will always be their "glory days" albums....

After Burton died and Newsted joined, the band started to go downhill....

"AJFA" sounded like shit, was repetitive and boring...
They sacrificed melody and hook.....

"The Black Album" was a commercial success, and was only enjoyed by the average radio listener or music fan...
Sell-outs.....

"Load" and "Re-Load" were also sell-outs.....

I have to admit I like a few songs from "Garage".....

"St.Anger", like all the albums since Burton died, was lame but had a couple of decent songs.....

I love Trujillo and what he did with Suicidal Tendencies, but Metallica started to lose their credibility once Newsted joined.....

hey...guess what? Your opinion doesn't matter

[darkais776]

Some of you r going to say I'm not a fan, but I just seem to have gotten into metallica really heavy about two months ago lol they r like my favorite band, and I admire all the work they have done. AJFA is actually my favorite album, probably because it is so prggressive and I love that. I am so ****en stoked about the new album lol
metallica will always kick ass. And I love kirk lol

[ragethetool]

somebody's wrong, ozzfest tickets say august 9th. fact check!!!

also, death magnetic better not be as dull and long as AJFA. LONG LIVE MASTER

[Nightstrider]

YOU! learn how to read. I never said they are responsible for every thrash band, Hell they damn near abandoned thrash all together. Kill Em All honestly was the only thrash metal album they released.

You said that "without Metallica, there wouldn't have been anyone to surpass them". They are in the genre of thrash metal, there have been many thrash metal bands that have surpassed them, and at least some of them did so without Metallica's influence.

Also, if you think Ride the Lightening, MoP (despite being a bore-fest), and ...And Justice aren't thrash metal you need to replace your ears.

[XxPunkMafiaxX]

salsawords wrote:

Evil Shredder wrote:

WHATS GONNA BE THE 'ONE' SONG? IT BETTER BE AS AMAZING AS ONE

Do you like guitar hero much?

haha, sounds about right.
as soon as we get some of the songs of Death Magnetic on GH, a new wave of posers will claim to be "hardcore 'Tallica fans" coz they can press four colourful buttons and sound just like Kirk Hammet.
seriously, GH was a good laugh, then it got boring, and now its just Fucking ridiculous.

but aside from starting a new argument...sounds like it could be a good album. Rob's a great bassist and AJFA was a great album. Lets hope its pure thrash, start to finish, eh boys? (and girls)
\m/

[Nightstrider]

He's not far off, except for Justice being a pretty good album, Newstead being one of the few things that gave Metallica any credibility in later years, and St. Anger being an unmitigated pile of shit, and Master sucking far more than Justice.

Okay, I guess he is far off.

[BlisteringDDj]

How could you NOT like AJFA?! I'm being serious folks... Look at my serious face... Although there's no bass, I love it...

[freshtunes]

Metal sucks.

[lilboisX3]

Nightstrider wrote:



You said that "without Metallica, there wouldn't have been anyone to surpass them". They are in the genre of thrash metal, there have been many thrash metal bands that have surpassed them, and at least some of them did so without Metallica's influence.

Also, if you think Ride the Lightening, MoP (despite being a bore-fest), and ...And Justice aren't thrash metal you need to replace your ears.

the other guy quoted my post and SOMEONE elses, I did not say that. I responded to it. everything after RTL was barely a thrash album, it was more progressive in structure and riffage.

Just because I said practically, does not mean they did all together.

Below is opinion:
AJFA is cool and all but all the songs "feel the same" Kirk Hammet does the same solos he has always done.

also Killemall>RTL>AJFA>MOP>St. Anger > load, reload, Black Album

[lilboisX3]

MonsterOfRock wrote:

Who gives a sh*t about metalness? eg. Pantera is a better metal band than Metallica, doesn't mean Pantera is better all together than Metallica. If its good music, listen to it or vice versa. Though ur right about the glory days thing, but unfortunately its 2008 and Metallica for one, has evolved beyond the metal stereotype.

what is this metalness you speak? Pantera isn't that great.
Metallica is a metal band who are comparable to other metal bands. get with the program.

[goneshootin]

i'm so pumped!
two of my greatest influences are coming out with new albums

its gona be great listening to new material from both angus and kirk

[Nightstrider]

the other guy quoted my post and SOMEONE elses, I did not say that. I responded to it.

Hmm, this comment system's format is not very condusive to debates, methinks.

everything after RTL was barely a thrash album, it was more progressive in structure and riffage.

Just because I said practically, does not mean they did all together.

That doesn't make any difference. I get the impression from these statements that you think thrash can only be simplistic, but that is a falsehood. MoP introduced nothing revolutionary in structure, being merely another mid-paced thrash album, and Justice was more progressive, but was still demonstratebly thrash. They didn't abandon thrash, even a little bit, until the Black Album.

Also, RTL > everything else they did.

[GoWithTheFlow]

finally an interview without lars. sounds great.

[ValoRhoads]

BRING IT TO ME!!! Seriously looking forward to this, I think Metallica is gonna shock us all.

[Fireballz 1077]

Metallica kicks ass!

[Fireballz 1077]

ValoRhoads wrote:

BRING IT TO ME!!! Seriously looking forward to this, I think Metallica is gonna shock us all.

Hell yeah!!!

[soadrocker301]

god, im sick of this f*ckin 10 year recording session. pantera recorded vulgar display of power in two freakin weeks. i have higher hopes for this one

[RIP Cliff RIP]

idk... i love metallica's first 4 albums but all the other ones left me dissapointed, im really hoping this album is good, either way im gonna pick it up

[James_Het_Rules]

Orion999 wrote:

Lilbois, I find your lack of respect disturbing. How much "glory" need one band offer the world? Metallica have offered four albums of metallic brilliance arguably unsurpassed by any other. They say lightning never strikes the same place twice, and yet here it has struck at least four times. You would do well to remember that Metallica's other albums are not "bad." No, they certainly don't hold a candle to the four monoliths which with they began their career, but by any other measurement they are good albums. Add to that that Metallica still are an incredible live act despite the onset of middle age and family life, and I think you owe them respect for their dedication to their art. I suppose you fancy bands like Lamb of God and Slipknot the pinnacles of metaldom now; ask them who they worship, because all I hear is the downpicking James Hetfield immortalized and the shredding Kirk Hammet imposed upon unsuspecting guitar necks.

Thank you for saying what many fans are thinking.

[DeLongeFan182]

I hope this ones good

[Year Zero]

We can only hope.

[carcass_prowler]

im looking forward to this very much, it seems that there is considerably more than a skid mark of hope that this effort will not suck, which is incredible seeing as st anger left such a bad taste in so many mouths. HOORAY METALLICA! (although as individuals they're all lame)

[MonsterOfRock]

lilboisX3 wrote:

MonsterOfRock wrote:

Who gives a sh*t about metalness? eg. Pantera is a better metal band than Metallica, doesn't mean Pantera is better all together than Metallica. If its good music, listen to it or vice versa. Though ur right about the glory days thing, but unfortunately its 2008 and Metallica for one, has evolved beyond the metal stereotype.

what is this metalness you speak? Pantera isn't that great.
Metallica is a metal band who are comparable to other metal bands. get with the program.

Uh... so what the hell is your point? Are you trying to say that an album like "Load" be compared with an album like say "Rust in Peace" or "Paranoid", JUST because Metallica is SUPPOSEDLY a metal band? "Load" is a Blues/Hard Rock album, ffs!

What I'm saying is that Metallica have taken their music beyond the traditional metal. You can sit all day thinking that the Kill/Ride/Puppetz Metallica was the best thing and the '91 onwards Metallica is a joke, but in the end you are just being closed-minded. You can't just say songs like "Bleeding Me", "Mama Said", "The Unforgiven II", "Low Man's Lyric" or "No Leaf Clover" are crap, just coz they arent "Metal". And yes, when Metallica did play strictly metal, they were unmatched. But today is a new day, so quite frankly, YOU need to get on with the program.

[Fireballz 1077]

MonsterOfRock wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

MonsterOfRock wrote:

Who gives a sh*t about metalness? eg. Pantera is a better metal band than Metallica, doesn't mean Pantera is better all together than Metallica. If its good music, listen to it or vice versa. Though ur right about the glory days thing, but unfortunately its 2008 and Metallica for one, has evolved beyond the metal stereotype.

what is this metalness you speak? Pantera isn't that great.
Metallica is a metal band who are comparable to other metal bands. get with the program.




Uh... so what the hell is your point? Are you trying to say that an album like "Load" be compared with an album like say "Rust in Peace" or "Paranoid", JUST because Metallica is SUPPOSEDLY a metal band? "Load" is a Blues/Hard Rock album, ffs!

What I'm saying is that Metallica have taken their music beyond the traditional metal. You can sit all day thinking that the Kill/Ride/Puppetz Metallica was the best thing and the '91 onwards Metallica is a joke, but in the end you are just being closed-minded. You can't just say songs like "Bleeding Me", "Mama Said", "The Unforgiven II", "Low Man's Lyric" or "No Leaf Clover" are crap, just coz they arent "Metal". And yes, when Metallica did play strictly metal, they were unmatched. But today is a new day, so quite frankly, YOU need to get on with the program.

A big "HELL YEAH" to you, my friend!

[Warheart1188]

I'll be there day one for the box set.

[SoftParade1967]

I dont see why everyones bashing ST. Anger, Load and Re-Load. in my opinion there great albums. You have to have a VERY open mind to enjoy ALL Metallica. I love all there material. From Kill em all to St. Anger. Be thankful that these legends are still around to give you good music! And you cant expect them to stay on The Master Of Puppets/Ride The Lightning roots forever. They matured as musicians but still kept there Metallica sound. guys be more open! New album should kick some ass!

[eazy-c]

"more modern, less progressive".

in other words, shit.

[Set-Abominae]

Nightstrider wrote:

the other guy quoted my post and SOMEONE elses, I did not say that. I responded to it.

Hmm, this comment system's format is not very condusive to debates, methinks.
everything after RTL was barely a thrash album, it was more progressive in structure and riffage.

Just because I said practically, does not mean they did all together.

That doesn't make any difference. I get the impression from these statements that you think thrash can only be simplistic, but that is a falsehood. MoP introduced nothing revolutionary in structure, being merely another mid-paced thrash album, and Justice was more progressive, but was still demonstratebly thrash. They didn't abandon thrash, even a little bit, until the Black Album.

Also, RTL > everything else they did.

This post festers with truth. RTL was, and is, one of my favorite albums. It influenced my playing quite a bit.

And I couldn't help but get the feeling that Kirk is setting up Trujillo as a scapegoat for if the album sucks hard. "We're tapping into a lot of the things he has to offer." That could be used as an "I told you so!" later on.

[RGshred88]

yeah...metallica...WAS good until the black album came out..i dont expect anything good in this album honestly.

[SERIALTRENDKILL]

Metallica is extremely over rated. But this album should be really good. they've only been working on it for half a decade.

[jman141]

the less progressive, more modern thing sucks. they need to go back to how they were in the early 80's

[DimeForever]

Sounds cool. As long as that fag Bob Rock isn't there to put his crappy two cents into everything, it ought to be bad ass!!! Can't wait!

Cheers!

[washburn0c03]

Fireballz 1077 wrote:

Metallica kicks ass!

hahahahah This is the only guy I can totally 100% agree with so far. If they sell it with just the album or if the box set turns out to be fairly cheap (I doubt it) I'll buy it but I'm not a big enough fan to spend 100+ on a box set for these guys.

[strat0blaster]

cfh0636 wrote:

That sucks not as aggressive should be more aggressive

He said PROgressive, not AGgressive, man.

Another version of And Justice For All? Give me a break. If I want to hear AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, I'll put it in my CD player and listen to it. I don't want two of the same album, nor do I need two of the same album. Do something fresh or hang up the towel.

[metallica-#1]

okay...IMO, okay? i dont think metallica was ever REALLY thrash (listen to me on this) when metallica first started off, they had mustaine, he contributed to alot of songs on KEA, which is considered their thrashiest record, when they fired him, his thrashy riff ideas went with him, metallica had a few of mustaines riffs around and they were used on RTL and MOP, but eventually, over a period of time, mustaines riffs ran out and metallica's true genre came out, sure they were still kinda thrash, but thats cuz cliff was in the band...when he died (rip) i think that killed off the rest of the thrash that metallica had left in them, and once they hired jason, his musical influences started showing in metallica's music, (they started getting progressivly more like rock)and then once they started makin the black album they hired bob rock as a producer, and he taught metallica to listen to different genres of music and translate that into their music, which means they got less thrashier still... THEN..okay? after the black album kirk took some guitar courses to brush up on some things and he learned a new bluesy style which showed in load/re-load which metallica fans took to be as selling-out but was really just musical influences. than jason left and they had to hire bob rock to help write and record st. anger which sucked cock in some peoples oppinion (not mine) and the band was feeling very hurt and angry which tranlated ALOT into st anger which made it kind of...punky, aggressive rock kinda, which metallica fans arnt really used to hearing...so people say they sold out even more...but now they have rob trujillo and he seems to no a thing or two about metal to help contribute with the band and with rick rubin as a producer, i dont think we will have a repeat of st. anger, IMO :P

[Set-Abominae]

metallica-#1 wrote:

okay...IMO, okay? i dont think metallica was ever REALLY thrash (listen to me on this) when metallica first started off, they had mustaine, he contributed to alot of songs on KEA, which is considered their thrashiest record, when they fired him, his thrashy riff ideas went with him, metallica had a few of mustaines riffs around and they were used on RTL and MOP, but eventually, over a period of time, mustaines riffs ran out and metallica's true genre came out, sure they were still kinda thrash, but thats cuz cliff was in the band...when he died (rip) i think that killed off the rest of the thrash that metallica had left in them, and once they hired jason, his musical influences started showing in metallica's music, (they started getting progressivly more like rock)and then once they started makin the black album they hired bob rock as a producer, and he taught metallica to listen to different genres of music and translate that into their music, which means they got less thrashier still... THEN..okay? after the black album kirk took some guitar courses to brush up on some things and he learned a new bluesy style which showed in load/re-load which metallica fans took to be as selling-out but was really just musical influences. than jason left and they had to hire bob rock to help write and record st. anger which sucked cock in some peoples oppinion (not mine) and the band was feeling very hurt and angry which tranlated ALOT into st anger which made it kind of...punky, aggressive rock kinda, which metallica fans arnt really used to hearing...so people say they sold out even more...but now they have rob trujillo and he seems to no a thing or two about metal to help contribute with the band and with rick rubin as a producer, i dont think we will have a repeat of st. anger, IMO :P

As huge and intimidating that wall of unpunctuated text is, I can agree with some points in there. After Megadave left and they used his riffs up, they sort of... slowed down, thrash-wise.

[malcolmcox]

im just remembering something.... when Metallica had a new bass player before on ...AJFA the didnt like him so they turned down the bass on the album..... Now with Death Magnetic they have a new bass player and this is a modern AJFA..... hmmmmm.....

*checked again.

[Blasphemylol]

You people, if u dont like it dont buy it. You cant expect Metallica to stay the same band for twenty years. St. Anger was very different and I didnt like it but it doesnt mean i have to b!tch about it.

[Symmetry4321]

This should be up there with the big 4, but if it matches the quality of load then i would be very pleased, as long as it isnt as bad as the black album

[petrucci_owns86]

Are they seriously calling it Death Magnetic?


Should be good, but... they should think about that title

[xAbyssusx]

darkais776 wrote:

Some of you r going to say I'm not a fan, but I just seem to have gotten into metallica really heavy about two months ago lol they r like my favorite band, and I admire all the work they have done. AJFA is actually my favorite album, probably because it is so prggressive and I love that. I am so ****en stoked about the new album lol
metallica will always kick ass. And I love kirk lol

*facepalm*

Also, this album name is almost as worst than Dragonforce's "Ultra Beatdown", just thought i'd throw that in there.

But yeah, im not getting my hope's up for this album and i dont see why anybody else should, it's probably going to fail just like the rest of there latest albums.



Over-rated.

[irishman]

Red33 wrote:

So when you run out of ideas just repeat the old stuff okay...

well since they got so much stick for changing their direction, then, yes, it makes perfect sense.

[BFun]

i found it very clever how they added all the extra stuff to the CD to make people want to buy it instead of illegally torrent it.

I want it

[vivaladavid]

Oh god I can't wait till they release the album, so they can STFU about it.

[Skuzzmo]

Is the new album going to be good or bad, I don't know....But reading down the posts I do know that Metallica, whatever they do, are in a no win situation...well, here at least.

They go back to a MoP feel and people will moan that they shouldn't re hash old stuff, however if they stretch out and get a bit experimental than people are gonna say they should have gone back to their 80's stuff....

So Mr Hetfield and crew...whatever you do it's going to be so wrong.... sorry guys.

[Svennz]

i have a very bad feeling about this album. it can either be that it will suck, or that it will be a GREAT album, but a very last album...

[whalepudding]

hurr hurr hurr hurr < hurr hurr hurr

Just seeing how the "less than" messes up posts.

[whalepudding]

Wut? it doesn't change anything.

[BC_Warlock]

Their last chance for me. After the pile of crap St. anger, i can't bring myself to like them. I'm still a classic Metallica fan, but i'll just see how this album sounds.

[markvdhaar]

SERIALTRENDKILL wrote:

Metallica is extremely over rated. But this album should be really good. they've only been working on it for half a decade.

And your first comment (the overrated part) is based on ... what exactly?

[SerpentineVIVIV]

lilboisX3 wrote:

I'll say it again, nothing Metallica do will relive their glory days nor will it have much of an impact on metal. They have been far surpassed in their genre.

+100,000

[Ryu89]

YES can't wait

[Thumper97]

I really want to be optimistic about this album. However, since Cliff(who is far superior to Trujillo) died and some idiot gave them the grand idea of going mainstream, they can never return to what they were. Kill 'Em All, Master of Puppets, and AJFA were their pinnacle, and the black album marked the end. Don't even bother mentioning St. Anger, that was just a mistake, not a Metallica album.

[dgme92]

I don't like Metallica, but hopefully if the album is meant to be great I may start liking them. I only really like "Enter Sandman", hopefully this new album opens my eyes to what Metallica are all about and I may start listening to them.

[sakos]

nice

[brianmay1966]

A boxed set in a 'coffin' - how original. I have to say, I don't care about Metallica anymore. I'd rather listen to Justin Timberlake and I'm not even gay. I liked Metallica when they mattered, back in the 80's - Kill 'em All, RtL and MoP were the best. AJFA was too complicated to listen to and let's not even mention the other "LOADS" of shit they've put out since then. Make way for Bullet for My Valentine, Saosin and Justin Timberlake!!!!

[lilboisX3]

Nightstrider wrote:

the other guy quoted my post and SOMEONE elses, I did not say that. I responded to it.

Hmm, this comment system's format is not very condusive to debates, methinks.
everything after RTL was barely a thrash album, it was more progressive in structure and riffage.

Just because I said practically, does not mean they did all together.

That doesn't make any difference. I get the impression from these statements that you think thrash can only be simplistic, but that is a falsehood. MoP introduced nothing revolutionary in structure, being merely another mid-paced thrash album, and Justice was more progressive, but was still demonstratebly thrash. They didn't abandon thrash, even a little bit, until the Black Album.

Also, RTL > everything else they did.

Thrash need not be simple. Look at Annihilator, coroner, even voivod and countless other technical/prog. thrash bands. Please for God sakes stop assuming things for whatever reason.

MonsterOfRock wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

MonsterOfRock wrote:
Uh... so what the hell is your point? Are you trying to say that an album like "Load" be compared with an album like say "Rust in Peace" or "Paranoid", JUST because Metallica is SUPPOSEDLY a metal band? "Load" is a Blues/Hard Rock album, ffs!

What I'm saying is that Metallica have taken their music beyond the traditional metal. You can sit all day thinking that the Kill/Ride/Puppetz Metallica was the best thing and the '91 onwards Metallica is a joke, but in the end you are just being closed-minded. You can't just say songs like "Bleeding Me", "Mama Said", "The Unforgiven II", "Low Man's Lyric" or "No Leaf Clover" are crap, just coz they arent "Metal". And yes, when Metallica did play strictly metal, they were unmatched. But today is a new day, so quite frankly, YOU need to get on with the program.

First and foremost, you really need to start understanding simple concepts.
Metallica is a heavy metal band. That makes them comparable to other Heavy metal bands from thrash metal to death metal and everything in between.
You can compare their first 4 "Masterpeices" (as all you fanboys love to call them) to any other album you want.

Let me make my point simple. You have the beatles. They were THE rock band of the time. Then take The Who. The Who surpases everything the beatles did in terms of showmanship, playing, composition and so forth.

The same holds true for Metallica, but in my personal opinion, they were not the best band at the time.

[lilboisX3]

SerpentineVIVIV wrote:
+100,000

I'm glad at least one person sees what I am trying to say. Instead of being a pissed off fanboy

[BriGuy7727]

Did anyone else see that the whole album will be available for download on Guitar Hero 3 when it comes out? And also the new GH World Tour when it drops...I think that's pretty awesome.

[Mattallica1]

A boxed set in a 'coffin' - how original. I have to say, I don't care about Metallica anymore. I'd rather listen to Justin Timberlake and I'm not even gay. I liked Metallica when they mattered, back in the 80's - Kill 'em All, RtL and MoP were the best. AJFA was too complicated to listen to and let's not even mention the other "LOADS" of shit they've put out since then. Make way for Bullet for My Valentine, Saosin and Justin Timberlake!!!!

You suck big time for making that statement.

[rockinger]

im so frikin stoked for th new album

[Mattallica1]

And @ some of you people, guess what? you havent even heard the album yet, you cant talk jack shit

[shadowsofbodom1]

well ill admit that im glad to be hearing this but what i dont like is how people still wont let st anger go...shit man, one bad album, let it go

checked.

[Nightstrider]

lilboisX3 wrote:
Thrash need not be simple. Look at Annihilator, coroner, even voivod and countless other technical/prog. thrash bands. Please for God sakes stop assuming things for whatever reason.

Uhh... you're arguing my point there buddy. I was saying that Metallica didn't abandon thrash at all, because yea verily, there is such a thing as progressive thrash. And I'm not assuming, note my distinct use of the word "impression", as in, "this is what I think you're saying, and if it isn't, then enlighten me as to what your position is".

[MonsterOfRock]

lilboisX3 wrote:

First and foremost, you really need to start understanding simple concepts.
Metallica is a heavy metal band. That makes them comparable to other Heavy metal bands from thrash metal to death metal and everything in between.
You can compare their first 4 "Masterpeices" (as all you fanboys love to call them) to any other album you want.

Let me make my point simple. You have the beatles. They were THE rock band of the time. Then take The Who. The Who surpases everything the beatles did in terms of showmanship, playing, composition and so forth.

The same holds true for Metallica, but in my personal opinion, they were not the best band at the time.

Jesus christ! Were you born with ears or the ability to read english, seriously? Did you not get what I wrote? So now "Load" and "ReLoad" are heavy metal albums, right? You can't just bloody label a band something when they are moving onto something entirely different.

Let me keep it simpler (and a lot less idiotic) than you. Metallica is band that uses 2 guitars, 1 vocal, 1 bass and a drumkit, right? Incase you didnt know, those instruments can play something other than heavy metal. Look at Faith No More for example. They have a similar set-up to the aforementioned, but they can play any genre with those things. I know that Metallica is nowhere near as versatile as FNM, but It doesn't take a flying rat to see the musical difference between say, "Ride the Lightning" and "Load/ReLoad". Yet YOU don't get it. A band's music is created by instruments, genious! -not a genre definition.

Lastly, why does music need to be compared? Every band is different and its whoevers cup of tea to like whatever. You aren't resolving world hunger or anything by comparing bands. Like I said before, you can use your set instruments to play whatever. And seriously people, stop taking the word "Genre" a little too seriously and take the word "Music" a bit more seriously.

[lilboisX3]

MonsterOfRock wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

First and foremost, you really need to start understanding simple concepts.
Metallica is a heavy metal band. That makes them comparable to other Heavy metal bands from thrash metal to death metal and everything in between.
You can compare their first 4 "Masterpeices" (as all you fanboys love to call them) to any other album you want.

Let me make my point simple. You have the beatles. They were THE rock band of the time. Then take The Who. The Who surpases everything the beatles did in terms of showmanship, playing, composition and so forth.

The same holds true for Metallica, but in my personal opinion, they were not the best band at the time.


Jesus christ! Were you born with ears or the ability to read english, seriously? Did you not get what I wrote? So now "Load" and "ReLoad" are heavy metal albums, right? You can't just bloody label a band something when they are moving onto something entirely different.

Let me keep it simpler (and a lot less idiotic) than you. Metallica is band that uses 2 guitars, 1 vocal, 1 bass and a drumkit, right? Incase you didnt know, those instruments can play something other than heavy metal. Look at Faith No More for example. They have a similar set-up to the aforementioned, but they can play any genre with those things. I know that Metallica is nowhere near as versatile as FNM, but It doesn't take a flying rat to see the musical difference between say, "Ride the Lightning" and "Load/ReLoad". Yet YOU don't get it. A band's music is created by instruments, genious! -not a genre definition.

Lastly, why does music need to be compared? Every band is different and its whoevers cup of tea to like whatever. You aren't resolving world hunger or anything by comparing bands. Like I said before, you can use your set instruments to play whatever. And seriously people, stop taking the word "Genre" a little too seriously and take the word "Music" a bit more seriously.

What the hell are you going on about? Sure you could compare them to Rush and Nine Inch Nails if you want, but thats not exactly the point of my original statement now is it.

I said that Metallica has been outdone in their "genre". IE everything they ever did has been taken to the next level. Therefore they have two outcomes the way I see it.

1) They make a good Metallica album - it won't blow minds, it won't be anything revolutionary or ground breaking. It will just be a "good" album

2) It is trash. and they lost touch.

I prefer the latter.

Nevertheless you must understand that people, especially "metal" fans are going to hear this and think, "Hey this has been done before." Or can't shake the feeling that they have heard something better.

Load and Reload are by a stretch "metal" albums. sadly.

[lilboisX3]

Nightstrider wrote:
Uhh... you're arguing my point there buddy. I was saying that Metallica didn't abandon thrash at all, because yea verily, there is such a thing as progressive thrash. And I'm not assuming, note my distinct use of the word "impression", as in, "this is what I think you're saying, and if it isn't, then enlighten me as to what your position is".

everything from the black album on has NO thrash in it, hence abandoned.

[MonsterOfRock]

lilboisX3 wrote:

Therefore they have two outcomes the way I see it.

1) They make a good Metallica album - it won't blow minds, it won't be anything revolutionary or ground breaking. It will just be a "good" album

2) It is trash. and they lost touch.

I prefer the latter.

See, I can't argue with you at an intellectual level as you are clearly pointing out your agenda on how you hate Metallica. Seriously, grow up! Don't like Metallica? GTFO!!! Its a Metallica news page.

And seriously, Metal fans that judge an album by how metal it is shouldn't have listenned to Metallica in the first place.

[Nightstrider]

lilboisX3 wrote:
everything from the black album on has NO thrash in it, hence abandoned.

I'm well aware of that. What I was contesting was your statement that "their only thrash album was Kill 'Em All" which is a blatant lie. Their last thrash album was ...And Justice For All, they abandoned thrash with the Black Album. Hence, they released 4 thrash albums not 1. Do you see?

[TehShiz]

Like most people, I honestly didn't like any of the albums of Metallica after the black album. Whatever genre they were supposed to be played in, they sounded horrible. Sure, I dont expect any band to create another album just as good or better than any album of theirs in the past, but that doesnt mean you cant say an album of theirs sucked. I haven't heard too much of each of their newer albums, but when I hear a song from one, I can tell. When I was younger, I had only listened to the better albums that Metallica had put out. Then I had discovered that they had more newer albums and was excited to give them a listen. Them being my favorite band at the time, I expected to like this new stuff. Also knowing that these songs were newer, I expected it to be alot different than what are referred to as Metallica's best albums. Obviously, I ended up hating the newer material and just stuck with listening to what I already knew. Im not expecting much from this new album, but I wish I could.

[mybandasphyxia]

i dont know if i am the first one to mention this, but am i the only one who thinks this can be Metallica's last album?

[holywars21]

I really hope that this album isnt shit. i love metallica but it seems like they havent, (for the exception of fuel), written a good song in 17 years. Im really looking foreward to this album, but im also dreading it. If its a complete flop, then they might as well use those coffins that come with the LE CD to lay metallica to rest for good. However i wont be that depressed if metallica called it quits. Im a die hard megadeth fan and seeing Mustaine win in the end would be great ;D

[shreddyboy]

i didn't like st. anger. i liked every other record. i hope this one is better than st. anger....

[DudeI'mOnAlesse]

wow, so many of you guys in this forum have such ridiculous shit to say i actually took the time to register on this site to share my opinions on ur arguments cuz seriously, you guys are bickering about whether the band is still thrash metal and that they should go back to "80's Metallica" even though your criticizing them for going back to there roots. I seriously do not see what is sooooo wrong with st anger, i personally like quite a few songs on that album and think metallica did something interesting by changing there sound for an album, it keeps things fresh and interesting, do you not think theyd get tired of playing the same damn stuff over and over on there albums and for there concerts after 10 years? i sure as hell would wanna play something different and change it up for once. As for the new album, shut the **** up until it is actually released, then add your opinions, and by opinions i mean actual intelligent analysis of the album not just "this album sucks balls and is a huge dissapointment because it doesnt sound like master" that album is 20 years old, let it go and look forward to the new stuff its not that difficult. I have listened to songs from almost every metallica album except for load and re-load so i wont comment on those albums, but i liked all the songs i heard from there other albums. Feel free to share your opinion about my comment as long as its not a simple "**** you" or "your not a real metallica fan" cuz honestly, i dont consider myself any kind of huge metallica fan, i just think there a pretty good heavy metal band and that you people should seriously just let them do there thing.

[extrememetal129]

Nightstrider wrote:
the other guy quoted my post and SOMEONE elses, I did not say that. I responded to it.

Hmm, this comment system's format is not very condusive to debates, methinks.
everything after RTL was barely a thrash album, it was more progressive in structure and riffage.

Just because I said practically, does not mean they did all together.

That doesn't make any difference. I get the impression from these statements that you think thrash can only be simplistic, but that is a falsehood. MoP introduced nothing revolutionary in structure, being merely another mid-paced thrash album, and Justice was more progressive, but was still demonstratebly thrash. They didn't abandon thrash, even a little bit, until the Black Album.

Also, RTL > everything else they did.


Fail ...AJFA>MOP>RTL
..AJFA totally rules because of its guitar work. To be able write to those complex yet heavy riffs needs some talent. This album went where no other Metallica album went and no other will if you're judging in reference to St. Anger. Complex riffs, technical solo, great lyrics and good metal voice make this album one of the best.

[JoeG]

Whats up with death magnetic? Heard a rip of this album today and it blows. If i had spent money on it I would have been pi**ed. My apocalypse is obviously just a remixed ripoff of blackened. Ruining and recycling your old stuff is what washed up rappers do, not heavy metal masters. What they didn't recycle sounds like stuff from some nobody bar band.

[ironwolg]

JoeG wrote:

Whats up with death magnetic? Heard a rip of this album today and it blows. If i had spent money on it I would have been pi**ed. My apocalypse is obviously just a remixed ripoff of blackened. Ruining and recycling your old stuff is what washed up rappers do, not heavy metal masters. What they didn't recycle sounds like stuff from some nobody bar band.

you sir have no musical ear
just because it's in the same style as blackened doesn't mean that it's a ripoff of it
you people are so ignorant it disgusts me