Mudvayne: New Game Rock Sound Not Hellyeah Pollinization

Mudvayne is set to release their new album, A New Game, next month, and the title says it all from Chad Gray and company. The band last released Lost And Found, which put to rest categorizations of the band as Math-Metal gleaned from earlier albums. Mudvayne has tried to hone a rock side while trying to maintain their metal and progressive roots, and A New Game moves closer to the former rather than the latter.

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Many are saying that vocalist Chad Gray's experience in Hellyeah, with former Pantera drummer Vinnie Paul, led the band down the rock road, but he says that's not the case. We asked Gray about what pollinization Hellyeah had on Mudvayne.

 Chad Gray On What He Brings From Hellyeah Into Mudvayne

"Nothing. It's completely separate. It's a different band. That band plays completely different than Mudvayne, and Mudvayne - not to bash Mudvayne - but Mudvayne is like putting on an old pair of shoes. They feel good. You're comfortable in them. I want to keep it that way. It's important, but I think it comes with the players too. Matt's a different drummer than Vince [Vinnie Paul]. It's a different vibe."

Gray and drummer Matt McDonough said that they naturally gravitated towards that and seeds of their changing musical direction are on their last album, Lost And Found.

 Mudvayne Moving Towards Rock

"We didn't necessarily intend to write a more rock oriented record, but it kind of came out of it. Obviously we were pushing those waters in a way on Lost and Found. Once that became evident and Dave Fortman got involved in pre-production and started hearing the songs and stuff, it was kind of immediately obvious that we can steer tones in that direction. You'll notice that my kick drum, it's not a heavy metal, typical, clicky heavy metal type of kick drum. It's more of a rock sounding kick drum. Those tones. I think guitars, and it actually has more space for guitars. I think it's great. It has more of a rock sound, a big rock sound."

Mudvayne's first single is "Do What You Do," and the video for the clip is being filmed in New Jersey this Saturday, October 4. Fans who want to sign up can RSVP to [e-mail]. Fans must wear a white T-shirt and dark jeans.

Comments

[pigmaggots]

oh mudvayne, just go back to the old stuff, it was fresh, original, intelligent. I understand growth but jesus, there's growth and there's being lazy.

[thirdeye_15]

its funny lisetnin to every1s feedbak on all these new albums, everyone wants the old shit, i say listen to the old cds, ppl mature and change inevitable with life, slipknot,mudvayne, bring me the horizon, so many bands are being victimized to the fact that they change. Its not there fault it juss happens... so shut up an listen to LD 50 if u want, but dont bash the present...

[JRowe3388]

New stuff is boring. LD50 had some math metal influences on it.

And I'm not just harping on about it like everyone else. I think Slipknot's new CD > Old.

[jefffelker40]

the new album is a let down, i've heard half of it, and i'm not complaining that this is new stuff, i'm complaining that this is light stuff, this band copped out a long time ago.

[Thefallofman]

thirdeye_15 wrote:

its funny lisetnin to every1s feedbak on all these new albums, everyone wants the old shit, i say listen to the old cds, ppl mature and change inevitable with life, slipknot,mudvayne, bring me the horizon, so many bands are being victimized to the fact that they change. Its not there fault it juss happens... so shut up an listen to LD 50 if u want, but dont bash the present...

I've found that bands can't win. They get ripped on for changing, and they get ripped on for staying the same forever. You can't keep everyone happy I guess, unfortunately.

[hardrocker64]

I like 95% of what Mudvayne has done. New and old. Good band.

[dethskar0]

I think they've gone progressively (excuse the pun) downhill since L.D.50

I've overplayed L.D.50 way too much, so I'd like some new music that's more like that. I liked their prog rock / math metal influences they used to have. I still liked Lost And Found, it just wasn't near as good as L.D.50. It's not just because of change though. Some bands get better with change, some get worse. Some are still good when they keep to their roots, some get boring. It all depends on the creativity of the band really.

[dthrasher]

"Math-Metal gleaned from earlier albums. Mudvayne has tried to hone a rock side while trying to maintain their metal and progressive roots"

Hahaha.

[hekainu]

The first album stood out because it had a complexity not found in contemporary albums at its release. It felt original and more intelligent than all the nu-metal bands at the time. But by the time Lost and Found came out, Mudvayne just sounded like every thing else at the time and didn't really stand out.

[MrYoshida]

dthrasher wrote:

"Math-Metal gleaned from earlier albums. Mudvayne has tried to hone a rock side while trying to maintain their metal and progressive roots"

Hahaha.

I think the terms Math-Metal is thrown around a bit too much, but progressive is just ridiculous. I swear, as long as you don't play the most mainstream of mainstream radio music, you will be deemed progressive.

I don't see how Mudvayne has ever been either of these, but I guess having slightly more interesting music than the rest of their genre, which is Nu-metal (which might be the most garbage genre ever) makes a band progressive.

[zAg1619]

thirdeye_15 wrote:

its funny lisetnin to every1s feedbak on all these new albums, everyone wants the old shit, i say listen to the old cds, ppl mature and change inevitable with life, slipknot,mudvayne, bring me the horizon, so many bands are being victimized to the fact that they change. Its not there fault it juss happens... so shut up an listen to LD 50 if u want, but dont bash the present...

God, you took the words right from my mouth dude. People grow up, and change, as well as their music. Unless you count Slayer...

[southern_stylin]

That's funny Hekainu, I didn't even hear their first album until long after I got LD50. But, the first album was fairly generic when compared to LD50 or even the newer stuff. Still good but they really came into their own with LD50 I think.

[Blackskall]

my favorite album is still LD50

[DimeShadow]

Any buddy see where this is going? The fans are arguing "Hellyeah is better!" "No, Mudvayne is better" Kinda like Pantera and Damageplan. I think this is gonna cause conflicts. All we need now is a center band (Nothingface) and a psycho-fan and we have a HUGE problem! Just a thought...

[motorbreath_445]

there's growth and there's being lazy.

i thought this was pretty funny. my friend heard the song and said its nothing special. i kinda lost interest in this band after lost and found, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the rest of the album

[slash_015]

I want a new Hellyeah-Album!

[mhylands]

southern_stylin wrote:

That's funny Hekainu, I didn't even hear their first album until long after I got LD50. But, the first album was fairly generic when compared to LD50 or even the newer stuff. Still good but they really came into their own with LD50 I think.

Technically LD50 was their first album, and is what is typically referred to as their roots and what not. If you're referring to Kill I Oughtta, then you're referring to an EP, a demo, and that was before they had everyone who is currently in the band. I agree, KIO was pretty generic...and I've heard the new single, and I wasn't impressed, but I wasn't too disappointed either.

[Red33]

This title confused the living hell out of me!

[disturbedcalgar]

Thefallofman wrote:

thirdeye_15 wrote:

its funny lisetnin to every1s feedbak on all these new albums, everyone wants the old shit, i say listen to the old cds, ppl mature and change inevitable with life, slipknot,mudvayne, bring me the horizon, so many bands are being victimized to the fact that they change. Its not there fault it juss happens... so shut up an listen to LD 50 if u want, but dont bash the present...

I've found that bands can't win. They get ripped on for changing, and they get ripped on for staying the same forever. You can't keep everyone happy I guess, unfortunately.

Exactly. Although I have seen some idiots say something about one band changing too much, and then on a review for a different band, they complained about how they've stayed exactly the same. Some people just can't be satisfied at all.

[Deflection]

slash_015 wrote:

I want a new Hellyeah-Album!

You're about to get one.

[Blue?]

as much as im for musical progression, i just dont find what their doing to be a positive, i love the hell out of LD50 and the end of all things to come. I found lost and found to be a massive let down and from what i've heard of the new album its going to be even more of a disappointment.

[Kelicon]

hekainu wrote:

The first album stood out because it had a complexity not found in contemporary albums at its release. It felt original and more intelligent than all the nu-metal bands at the time. But by the time Lost and Found came out, Mudvayne just sounded like every thing else at the time and didn't really stand out.

+1

[dann_blood]

Bands change. Bitching about it in the comments section of a news article isnt going to change it.
I just hope that the guys are still producing good songs.

[happyfinesad]

Well, here's the thing. Bands change, sure, but there is a level of change that, when one first gets into a band, a person is willing to accept. Obviously, as a band gets older, the members mature and want to change the sound a bit, but making such harsh changes, changes that actually lessen a band's originality, are usually met with less than happy fans. Cases in point: Mudvayne, Disturbed, Slipknot to a degree, Metallica, and so on. And the fact that for whatever reason, many bands seem to write fewer and fewer compelling songs over time doesn't seem to help anything.

[strat0blaster]

Honestly, as long as it sounds like MUDVAYNE, I'll be fine. They can change and grow - good. Just so it doesn't sound like another band 'playing' mudvayne.

Checked

[YetAnotherMuso]

Man, this sucks...I mean I don't have a problem with bands changing but it's disappointing when they're not as good at what they change to...this is an example of that I think, Mudvayne are so much better at their former brand of metal than what they're putting out now...songs like "Skrying" were so interesting and thought provoking, not to mention catchy...whereas "TV Radio" off "Lost And Found" made my ears bleed, it was not because it had a mainstream sound but because they did it so badly in comparison to their former heights. Do what you do best guys, please.

[revengedspite]

Bands changing can be good, I just don't like it when I hear the record and feel like I don't want to listening to it. When I first heard lost and found it entertained me for a few weeks butput it on now and it puts me to sleep.

[Skin the Sun]

That is so true YetAnotherMuso, change is great as long as we don't see a dip in the quality.

[skyfire322]

Times change, and so does music. LD50 was a great album at the time it came out. That's when "Nu Metal" was really starting to make an impact. 8 years later, you've got so many more bands trying to do the same thing. I think they are just trying to stay "original". It may not be the same as LD50 or End Of All Things, but it's still Mudvayne. It's a shame that people can't listen to music with an open ear anymore....

[Set-Abominae]

Red33 wrote:

This title confused the living hell out of me!

This.

[The Spoon]

Red33 wrote:

This title confused the living hell out of me!

LMAO i know!

[Randaman]

Thefallofman wrote:

thirdeye_15 wrote:

its funny lisetnin to every1s feedbak on all these new albums, everyone wants the old shit, i say listen to the old cds, ppl mature and change inevitable with life, slipknot,mudvayne, bring me the horizon, so many bands are being victimized to the fact that they change. Its not there fault it juss happens... so shut up an listen to LD 50 if u want, but dont bash the present...
I've found that bands can't win. They get ripped on for changing, and they get ripped on for staying the same forever. You can't keep everyone happy I guess, unfortunately.

Yeah, like Linkin Park godammit >.

[maggot310]

dethskar0 wrote:

I think they've gone progressively (excuse the pun) downhill since L.D.50

I've overplayed L.D.50 way too much, so I'd like some new music that's more like that. I liked their prog rock / math metal influences they used to have. I still liked Lost And Found, it just wasn't near as good as L.D.50. It's not just because of change though. Some bands get better with change, some get worse. Some are still good when they keep to their roots, some get boring. It all depends on the creativity of the band really.

Exactly. I liked slipknot, metallica, and a7x's new albums but Lost and Found isn't as great as L.D 50.

[lounge act]

Red33 wrote:

This title confused the living hell out of me!

haha me too. I only clicked to see what the hell they were talking about

[Nightfyre]

Really confusing title... though admittedly it got me to click, as I'm no Mudvayne fan...
Anyway, people keep saying to stop ripping on bands who change... I say, stop ripping on bands who change and do new, interesting things. If it's good, you can run with it for a while but eventually you have to grow. If you change and do something interesting and creative (and well-written), great! If you morph from an interesting band to one that sounds like everyone else, that is change but not necessarily good change. I haven't listened to LD50, but their recent material sounds pretty generic to my ears.

[Brendan.Clace]

MrYoshida wrote:

dthrasher wrote:

"Math-Metal gleaned from earlier albums. Mudvayne has tried to hone a rock side while trying to maintain their metal and progressive roots"

Hahaha.


I think the terms Math-Metal is thrown around a bit too much, but progressive is just ridiculous. I swear, as long as you don't play the most mainstream of mainstream radio music, you will be deemed progressive.

I don't see how Mudvayne has ever been either of these, but I guess having slightly more interesting music than the rest of their genre, which is Nu-metal (which might be the most garbage genre ever) makes a band progressive.

Clearly you have never listened to songs like Central Disposal etc.

I will give it to you in a sense that not ALL of their music was odd timed, but it doesnt matter. they had math metal roots and did a few songs in odd meter.... great... doesnt mean they aren't math metal because every song isnt in odd meter.

If only bands like Meshuggah and DEP should be classififed as Math Metal then so be it, but don't toss Mudvayne out the window because they started out in the "nu metal" era.

[Mudvayne2427]

I think this album is a mistake. They made a shit ton of fans with L.D.50 and they're gonna lose em all with this rock crap. All I know if i was in that band and that was the finished product i would throw it in the garbage. It sounds almost exactly the same as lost and found, and that wasn't a very good album. I would understand the transition from metal to rock if Chad's voice was shot, but i know that guy can still scream. I am extremely disapointed with the new material. We should boycott the album, and force them to write better material.