Slipknot: New Mask Mayhem

Slipknot is winding down its time as the headliner on the inaugural Mayhem Festival, which also features sets by Disturbed, Dragonforce, Machine Head, and Mastodon among others. The trek marks the first time the band has toured with their new masks, and it's in advance of their new album All Hope Is Gone, which arrives in stores August 26.

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We sat down with Slipknot percussionist Chris Fein and asked him if there's a different mindset in the band due to the new masks.

 Chris Fein Asked If He And Slipknot Have New Outlooks With New Masks

"Not really because I can't see myself. You know what I mean? My mask virtually stays the same the whole time, so it's always that same early mentality when I put it on right now as opposed to maybe some of the other guys having a different attitude."

We also asked him if they feel a little different putting on the costumes this time around.

 Slipknot On Suiting Up Once Again

"You know, we're pretty used to it now, but it's definitely like putting the pads on in football or anything like that. It definitely changes up here (points to head) when we put it on."

Fein also talked about reaching their goal of consistency.

 Slipknot On Attaining Consistency

"Aside from injuries and stuff, the normal things that plague any team, yeah, we've only gotten better, especially as far as musicianship and playing together as a band. This tour especially, I know it's tough to say but there's been a couple of shows where it's been Top 5 for me as far as how we played and the energy that that you can just feel between us on-stage. It's pretty incredible."

The Mayhem festival also featured sets by Walls Of Jericho, Black Tide, Underoath, Five Finger Death Punch, Airbourne, and Black Tide among others. Meanwhile, Slipknot's first single from the album, "Psychosocial" is Number Ten at Active Rock radio and Number 21 on Alternative Rock radio. The Mayhem Festival wraps up at the Darien Center in Upstate New York on Tuesday, August 19.

Comments

[nick_b]

i really like the direction slipknot are taking with their new album
i mean, the first two songs off it are amazing.
and the new masks look pretty killer
should be good to see if i can get tickets for their australia dates in october

[MonstaMan]

yeah psycosocial is just pure awesome and all hope is gone f***in heavy!!!!!

i love clowns new mask too

[harpcicle]

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

[Smoothy333]

Dude he's not just talking either..... I saw them in mid-July in Cali for the Mayhem festival..... they were playing super tight and that show was all kinds of high energy awesomeness.

[snackpak888]

they mentioned black tide as performers twice haha...
and darien center is not upstate its western ny

[iksero]

Saw the mayhem tour in pittsburgh. kinda left before slipknot came on.....

[BlisteringDDj]

The Subliminal Verses was pretty awesome. I definitely get their new album. As he said, they have gotten a lot better at making music and playing together as a band. I hope Slipknot keeps it this way!

[lilboisX3]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

Unless you are a soccer mom, Slipknot never sounded brutally heavy.

[boomtank]

isn't it chris fehn?

[Tapping_Ninja]

lilboisX3 wrote:

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays


Unless you are a soccer mom, Slipknot never sounded brutally heavy.

Agreed... I anything they got heavier and started doing technical things like sweeping which Mick Tompson said he did on the first album but got cut. I like the direction their going and I don't care what the die hard fans say because when it comes down to it they're just progressing through their musical carrer like any great band. Plus it's completely boring if you don't try new things...

[BlisteringDDj]

Totally agree with Tapping_Ninja.

[i_am_metalhead]

boomtank wrote:

isn't it chris fehn?

Yea it is... but UG never gets names right in their articles lol.

Can't wait for this new album. I was reading an interview with Mick and Jim and they said there is a lot of technical guitar playing on this album, including 6 string sweeping... gonna be a brutal album!

[boxcharles]

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

[dan1985smith]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

All Hope is Gone is a poppy song? If you consider "Poppy" as one of their heavist, then yes, it is a "poppy" song.

[metal4ever6328]

boxcharles wrote:

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

What bands are you talking about exactly?

[waterbear91]

I like all of 3 of there studio album and the two songs i heard from there new album, i'm going to like this one to.

In other words i like all there albums...

[genresrforposer]

I love that certain fans of metal are so ridiculously conservative in their tastes they call "All Hope IS Gone" pop.

My friend, I actually prefer Corey Taylor when he does poppy stuff like "Through the Glass" and the vocal harmonies in "Psychosocial". You could even make an argument for "Wait and Bleed" because it's not too abrasive but while there is heavier stuff out there, "All Hope is Gone" is certainly not pop and sounds much closer to Iowa songs I've heard. "Psychosocial" sounds closer to Vol. 3 (only album of theirs I own).

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

[boxcharles]

What bands are you talking about exactly?

Actually most of the metal I hear. There's bands like Metallica who are master songwriters, who play heavy music. And they know how to balance both. I'm mostly talking about Slayer songs.

[mtllica]

I completely agree with Tapping_Ninja as well...it always extremely annoys me when you've got these, let's say, "super fans" or whatever of these bands that pass off their recent efforts as a band just because they're trying new things and maybe progressing their sound a little...I personally, love every album of theirs because they don't tend to sound the same and kind of have a different vibe...

[MattA7Xfan4Life]

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

i love that Iowa, but it's not heavier. If anything Iowa is poppier b/c mainstream music leans more toward the electronic/rap vibe and older Slipknot leaned more to that side as wow. Their new stuff is the heaviest I've ever heard by them.

[Kingsway96]

All hope is gone is pop? Wow thats crazy. I didnt know thats what pop sounded like.

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

[new_age_reject]

boxcharles wrote:

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

I'm sorry but, **** you. I'm tired of seeing that sentence almost everywhere I look "A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction". Yes I agree that there are some bands that are like that but on the other hand can anyone actually name a band like that? NO, because in the vast majority of metal there is a wealth of great writing, talent and musicianship that's just begging to be explored.

But on the topic at hand, I prefer slipknots older stuff and very much dislike vol.3. I've not heard the new songs but I will probably buy the album anyway, if things are more technical like they say, it should be good.

[Maggot66]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the

blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

Poppy?
That is the WORST word to use there.
It isn't AT all.

Subliminal Verses is where it's at.

[boxcharles]

What blows my mind is seeing these guys shred in guitar instructional videos. Yet they don't show off in their music.

They do it very tastefully. And my god, Mick can sweep pick faster than Malmsteem.

[vash_08]

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much.

[priestfan76]

new_age_reject wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

I'm sorry but, **** you. I'm tired of seeing that sentence almost everywhere I look "A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction". Yes I agree that there are some bands that are like that but on the other hand can anyone actually name a band like that? NO, because in the vast majority of metal there is a wealth of great writing, talent and musicianship that's just begging to be explored.

But on the topic at hand, I prefer slipknots older stuff and very much dislike vol.3. I've not heard the new songs but I will probably buy the album anyway, if things are more technical like they say, it should be good.

How about the entire grindcore genre?New Death Metal?I hate all the metal bands nowadays, minus a few.THey all wanna be the next Carcass or Cannibal Corpse,who i hate but they at least were mostly original, but instead of doing anything right, like trying to write ACTUAL music, they just try to add as many pig squeals and bullshit screaming into their music, while the rest of the band is either amazing, or so downtuned you cant decipher if they are playing of just smacking their instruments real hard.
And on topic, I was never a big Slipknot fan, but i like their older shit better.THe new stuff is alright, but i feel the songwriting was better before.That's just me though.

[vash_08]

priestfan76 wrote:

new_age_reject wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

I'm sorry but, **** you. I'm tired of seeing that sentence almost everywhere I look "A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction". Yes I agree that there are some bands that are like that but on the other hand can anyone actually name a band like that? NO, because in the vast majority of metal there is a wealth of great writing, talent and musicianship that's just begging to be explored.

But on the topic at hand, I prefer slipknots older stuff and very much dislike vol.3. I've not heard the new songs but I will probably buy the album anyway, if things are more technical like they say, it should be good.

How about the entire grindcore genre?New Death Metal?I hate all the metal bands nowadays, minus a few.THey all wanna be the next Carcass or Cannibal Corpse,who i hate but they at least were mostly original, but instead of doing anything right, like trying to write ACTUAL music, they just try to add as many pig squeals and bullshit screaming into their music, while the rest of the band is either amazing, or so downtuned you cant decipher if they are playing of just smacking their instruments real hard.
And on topic, I was never a big Slipknot fan, but i like their older shit better.THe new stuff is alright, but i feel the songwriting was better before.That's just me though.

You just described deathcore, not death metal

[fiftysteps]

I love it how people confuse poppy with songwriting. If you are listening to retarded bands that just thrash away at their instruments and growl for the sake of being heavy, boy do you have a lot to learn.

SLipknot no matter how popular, always have my interest because they always manage to keep coming up with new memorable songs that still kick ass. They are GROWN UP enough to sacrifice some of that heavy element in exchange to make sure not all of their songs sound the same, like most of today's heavier metal bands.

[Nihil]

psychosocial sounds like their just trying to sell more to the 'scene' kids now, since nu-metal is pretty much dead.

they sell out every chance they get, who even cares is some of the writing is decent? there's too much good music out there to waste time listening to some average sell-out proclaiming that they're super hardcore to 13-year-olds

[Knotism]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

they didn't continue vol. 3. it's a new era.

[handbanana78]

lol he said black tide twice on the last paragraf or how ever u spell it

[Cobain_Is_King]

I like the new masks as well, especially the balaclava one.

[darkfire_storm]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

explain to me how the songs "All Hope Is Gone" and "The Blister Exists" are poppy. seriously, have you listened to any pop music lately?

[Emenius Sleepus]

they're growing as musicians, but the new album is still way below average. Clumsy songwriting, bad riffs, etc etc. Eww.

They shouldn't have gone back to Iowa, as that was just a re-hash of the self-titled sound with maybe a few extra things added to the mix.

[ReaperWaits]

'Knot releasing tee's under their own label is just the same as them releasing merch through a seperate company, Just more clothing for the fans. Until you see Mick Thompson clean shaven modelling in Gap, I don't think there's any need to worry.

[Whit_f-ing_ROX]

saw em at mayhem in atl.. was awesome

[RuthlessBassist]

my dad worked security backstage for dallas mayhem and he said they were having to take in oxygen and shit
and i thought these guys must put on one hell of a show

[JRowe3388]

There's a difference between melodic and poppy.

And the new album is great. I heard it today. Snuff is a beautiful song.

[I_AM_FOREVER]

yeah everyone's gonna sit here and jam out about how slipknot's not heavy blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.... name another band that has gotten the noteriety and given so much spotlight to metal music and still not be called heavy.... "i wanna slit your throat and **** the wound" poppy? you retards are all just a bunch of wanna-be hardercore mother****ers... do you really think that from your little basement with your crate practice amp and fender strat that you're gonna tell slipknot after 3 ****ed up heavy albums that they aren't metal? i'd like to see you last 1 show on stage with them

[harpcicle]

slipknot of the heavy is dead. corey and jim have stone sour to do all that mainstream crap, not slipknot. worst album ever

[shattamakar]

i havent really listened to much of slipknot , one of the few songs ive listened to of theirs is " spit it out"... and that gave me the impression that theyre overly loud emo wankers with lyrical content unworthy of the applause of even an autistic strip of bacon (my opinion)...but anyways could someone recommend some of their good songs.(if any)

[j-walk]

vash_08 wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.


You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much.

[j-walk]

vash_08 wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.


You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much.

Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.

[llama_guitarist]

I_AM_FOREVER wrote:

yeah everyone's gonna sit here and jam out about how slipknot's not heavy blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.... name another band that has gotten the noteriety and given so much spotlight to metal music and still not be called heavy.... "i wanna slit your throat and **** the wound" poppy? you retards are all just a bunch of wanna-be hardercore mother****ers... do you really think that from your little basement with your crate practice amp and fender strat that you're gonna tell slipknot after 3 ****ed up heavy albums that they aren't metal? i'd like to see you last 1 show on stage with them

dang, you're cool.

[nathanhimmerich]

Black Tide ANDD Black Tide played at Mayhem? wow..

Slipknot needs their masks, just like Buckethead needs his persona.

Both are great with what they do, but the masks add to their public image. Honestly, I think Slipknot wouldn't be as crazy live without them, they'd have a different mindset, a more calm one.

And, I'm not saying that Slipknot is good at what they do as in they are uber skilled, but they know how to appeal to the heavy rock/metal scene by all means. A lot of their songs are very catchy, and not just noise. If you listen to it non-skeptically, you'll notice that there are catchy riffs, patterns, varying tempos...a great metallic voice (and a very skilled Joey Jordison on drums).

I'd like to see some of you UG'ers get the publicity they did in their prime. -not sarcastic there either-

[the agony scene]

i love iwoa and the selftitled album
vol 3 for me was a let down i wont say it sucked because it was a great album just not for the music i expected and loved from them.
the new album is sounding great corey can actually scream again ,vol3 for screams was abysmal im sure we can all agree.

[guitaringnathan]

j-walk wrote:



As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much. Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.

i agreed with you until i read your last statement, people didnt get lazy, if anything it inspired people to keep on moving forward with metal. and grunge was around before the black album came out, they just happened to hit around the same time. grunge may have not have had hugely complicated riffs and over the top crap like the 80's, but they were simply trying to get back to what they thought rock should be, simple and direct.

back to topic, knots a little silly to me, mainly cause i have to listen to all the little over the top 13 year olds who think they are so extreme because they listen to them(one of these kids actually said that their metal,shut up please). i think the people in the band are talented but in the end i think their silly dudes in masks who write music that goes along with the times.

[BlisteringDDj]

^Can people please stop saying that Slipknot isn't metal? They play metal! I can't believe that people still have this hatred against Nu-Metal, bashing it constantly...

[Steven E]

mayhem fest was good, i really miss it

[Thienskater]

i grew up listening to slipknot, i remember when i was 14 in grade 8, every computer i used in the school i always left a slipknot wallpaper behind. the best 2 albums we s/t and iowa. vol3 was ok, kinda mainstream but that hasn't stopped me from liking them. I'm looking forward to all hope is gone, i'm def. gonna pick it up on day one, maybe the dragonforce cd aswell. i really wanted to see them this year at the mayhem festival but none of my friends listen to my type of music, and i don't want to go alone. last time i saw slipknot was back in '01 during ozzfest.

[Dallen_007]

j-walk wrote:

vash_08 wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.


You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much. Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.

You sir, are inexplicably narrow minded, metal is not the climax of music. How about you open up to some other types of music.

[Vanox_1]

Dallen_007 :
j-walk wrote:

vash_08 wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.


You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much. Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.


You sir, are inexplicably narrow minded, metal is not the climax of music. How about you open up to some other types of music.

Because metal is the best kind of music and definitely the most demanding of talent. What the **** other kinds of music are you thinking of? Rap? Pure shit. Pop? Pure shit. Country? Pure shit. Hip hop? Pure shit. Alternative? Mostly shit. And I dont give a shit if you say "O, well thats just your opinion." Well its right. I'm sorry for your lack of taste in music but metal is the climax.

[new_age_reject]

priestfan76 wrote:

new_age_reject wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

I actually like their pop oriented songs. Only cause they're actually listenable. Actually pop isn't a great word to use, but Vol3 had a lot of well written songs. The songwriting was outstanding.

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.

I'm sorry but, **** you. I'm tired of seeing that sentence almost everywhere I look "A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction". Yes I agree that there are some bands that are like that but on the other hand can anyone actually name a band like that? NO, because in the vast majority of metal there is a wealth of great writing, talent and musicianship that's just begging to be explored.

But on the topic at hand, I prefer slipknots older stuff and very much dislike vol.3. I've not heard the new songs but I will probably buy the album anyway, if things are more technical like they say, it should be good.

How about the entire grindcore genre?New Death Metal?I hate all the metal bands nowadays, minus a few.THey all wanna be the next Carcass or Cannibal Corpse,who i hate but they at least were mostly original, but instead of doing anything right, like trying to write ACTUAL music, they just try to add as many pig squeals and bullshit screaming into their music, while the rest of the band is either amazing, or so downtuned you cant decipher if they are playing of just smacking their instruments real hard.
And on topic, I was never a big Slipknot fan, but i like their older shit better.THe new stuff is alright, but i feel the songwriting was better before.That's just me though.

Ok, you got me there, grindcore is awful, but its such a tiny proportion of the amount of music out there that it's almost negligable.

[theocao]

Tapping_Ninja wrote:

lilboisX3 wrote:

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays


Unless you are a soccer mom, Slipknot never sounded brutally heavy.

Agreed... I anything they got heavier and started doing technical things like sweeping which Mick Tompson said he did on the first album but got cut. I like the direction their going and I don't care what the die hard fans say because when it comes down to it they're just progressing through their musical carrer like any great band. Plus it's completely boring if you
don't try new things...

yea I agree their not heavy but their not technical either.

[Basquiat]

Vanox_1 wrote:
Because metal is the best kind of music and definitely the most demanding of talent. What the **** other kinds of music are you thinking of? Rap? Pure shit. Pop? Pure shit. Country? Pure shit. Hip hop? Pure shit. Alternative? Mostly shit. And I dont give a shit if you say "O, well thats just your opinion." Well its right. I'm sorry for your lack of taste in music but metal is the climax.

Jesus Christ. Metal elitist much? You sir, need to open your ears.

[boxcharles]

"hey dude, you know how kiss was a bad band with a really stupid gimmick?"
"yeah...."
"well i was thinking we could be even worse and have an even dumber gimmick and we could....idk, get famous or something"
"cool. i'm gonna drop my tuning and yell a lot. you get some masks"

I actually laughed out loud when I read that.

[N031]

lol, i love it.
their songwriting improves and suddenly a ****load of "fans" hate them. whatever, it's stupid anyway. i'm a fan of all of slipknot's music no matter how heavy or radio friendly. then other people who on longer like slipknot can't help but to read the articles and comment plus read through other comments and respond. f**king stupid.


anyway, did anyone notice that black tide was mentioned twice?

[N031]

my god, alot of people are just idiots. i don't in on the panic at the disco news articles and tell scene kids that they suck. i don't give a shit what crappy music they listen to so why do idiots feel the need to flame bands that they claim not to like like slipknot? stupid morons. it doesn't even bother me what they say. just the fact that it seems like they look for bands they don't like just to flame on them. that shows a need for some ass. really, if you've got that much time on your hands in out and get some.

[macdonalds23]

if you watch slipknots psychosocial video premiere on MTV they show these girls all scared and shit. so if their music still scares people i wouldnt say its poppy

[Bulls_on_Parade]

To say that Metal is the climax of music purely because it is the most demanding and technical is completely ignorant. I despise that more and more people today look the the technicality of music before the actual music itself. One who is a good musician isn't neccesarily technical, but has the ablitity to pour his/her soul into something beautiful that everyone can understand.

[Huggy (-.-)]

vash_08 wrote:

You just described deathcore, not death metal

only a heavy metal fan would be so anal when labeling something.
Its all the same mate.

[jpgilbert701]

Vanox_1 wrote:

Dallen_007 :
j-walk wrote:

vash_08 wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

And hearing everyone say "it wasn't brutal enough" just pisses me off. I enjoy music that you can decipher a verse and a chorus. A lot of metal music is just random noise for three minutes that goes in no direction.


You know what "pisses me off" whenever someone says that a lot of metal music is just random noise, the only people who say that are the people who have never even actually tried to listen to it.

A lot of metal have a verse and chorus setup, that is pretty easy to understand, but who the heck wants to hear something so predictable every time they listen to a song?

As for slipknot, they need to stop worrying about there masks and costumes, and start worrying about what is important, the music. Maybe then they wouldn't suck so much. Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.


You sir, are inexplicably narrow minded, metal is not the climax of music. How about you open up to some other types of music.

Because metal is the best kind of music and definitely the most demanding of talent. What the **** other kinds of music are you thinking of? Rap? Pure shit. Pop? Pure shit. Country? Pure shit. Hip hop? Pure shit. Alternative? Mostly shit. And I dont give a shit if you say "O, well thats just your opinion." Well its right. I'm sorry for your lack of taste in music but metal is the climax.

Metal is not the most technically demanding. Jazz music could possibly take this title. Jazz takes an incredible amount of technicality and knowledge of music theory to play because most of the solos are improvised and sometimes there are chord changes every other measure. Also, many of the musicians have to sight read the music a few minutes before playing it live which makes it that much harder. It requires an extensive amount of theory, musicianship, technicality, timing and pretty much everything else that an incredible musician should have. Now this doesn't mean that metal doesn't require some type of talent (although sometimes i wonder), to say that it is the "climax of all music" or the "most technical genre" shows nothing but ignorance.

[JohnnyRye]

Wtf... why does every single thread about slipknot turn into a battle between the hardcore fans and the wannabe-more-hardcore haters?

in my opinion, slipknot is developing, and I call that a good thing, most of you guys still would have been complainting if they kept that style, because they then would become "boring" or "unoriginal" in your eyes...

Anyway... I'm looking forward to see these guys live with other "sellouts" and "poppy" bands such as Children of Bodom and Machine Head^^

[Reddaz]

Huggy (-. :
vash_08 wrote:

You just described deathcore, not death metal

only a heavy metal fan would be so anal when labeling something.
Its all the same mate.

not realy m8, death metal has solo's while death core generaly doesnt. anything '...core' is based on the american hardcore punk movement therefore omitting solo's, while anything '...metal' has solo's as it is based on heavy metal, which we british gave to the world

[guitaringnathan]

reddaz, actually lonnie johnson, then later on american blues players and dudes like chuck berry started doing solos, the brits did invent metal tho i'll give em that

[Reddaz]

guitaringnathan :
reddaz, actually lonnie johnson, then later on american blues players and dudes like chuck berry started doing solos, the brits did invent metal tho i'll give em that

if your gonna get technical, metal came from british bands who developed it from british rock, which was develepod from american blues, which came from slave music which came from african tribal music. so if your gonna get picky, a small african tribe invented metal, but i doubt you could name 5 african metal bands

[Shaned]

yeah american dudes made the solos but metal indeed came from britain
and certain metal are for certain people
but the people who bash other genres are just faggy metal fans

and if you dont call slipknot metal or some other kind of hardcore what the **** are they then?
it's some kind of metal and whatever kind it is, there's a big enough following of it and slipknot is giving those fans what they want so good for slipknot

they have some good songs, i personally prefer the later stuff btw.

[Reddaz]

what gets me is the fact that peopel actualy feel the need to pigeon hole evey band they hear

Reddaz wrote:
not realy m8, death metal has solo's while death core generaly doesnt. anything '...core' is based on the american hardcore punk movement therefore omitting solo's, while anything '...metal' has solo's as it is based on heavy metal, which we british gave to the world

trivium=metalcore?

do they have solos? yep

a7x=metalcore?

do they have solos? yep

I could go on, you don't have to omit solos to be counted as a 'core' band, you just have to have hardcore punk influences.

but that's when the term is used 'correctly'. nowadays it just seems to be a suffix to distinguish between kvlt and untr00 bands.

because heaven forbid a popular modern band is labelled metal.

Reddaz wrote:

what gets me is the fact that peopel actualy feel the need to pigeon hole evey band they hear

nothing wrong with labelling bands, the problem is when people start being elistist about those labels.


checked, also no more off topic arguing.

[CHOCOmoney]

psychosocial is probably the best moshpit song ever. it just have great rhythm and energy. the album comes out on my bday its gonna be awesome

[atTheGates27]

did all hope is gone come out allready?

[Black Hole Sun]

Nihil wrote:

psychosocial sounds like their just trying to sell more to the 'scene' kids now, since nu-metal is pretty much dead.

they sell out every chance they get, who even cares is some of the writing is decent? there's too much good music out there to waste time listening to some average sell-out proclaiming that they're super hardcore to 13-year-olds

Wow, that's funny, your name means "nothing" and your opinion is tantamount to that.

Anyway, I'd like to have heard some of the more experimental stuff, like getting the whole band in on the writing, and the tracking vocals in a well. I'd rather this album weren't so rushed, as Jim said, too. Give them time to make the album perfect, with more of a progression, as opposed to a regression. Nonetheless, I really enjoy the album.

[Tin_man]

Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.

Excuse me? Grunge music is the result of laziness? I love metal just as much as the next guy, but Grunge brought the world Soundgarden. Grunge brought the world Alice In Chains. Also Nirvana, who are more influential but, in my opinion, not better than the previous bands mentioned. Soundgarden can hardly be called "lazy" with their insane time signature changes (which would probably give Slipknot a headache if they tried...) I love metal, I really do, but it is certainly not infintely superior to other types of music.

Also... I hate all these "genres..." Grindcore, Deathcore, Death Metal, they confuse the heck out of me. I just want to like a band for what they sound like, not because they have a "core" in their genre name.

I need to check out Slipknot's new stuff. I liked "Duality," a lot as the single from Vol. III. Think the masks are dumb, though. Music should speak for itself and not need a gimmick. I'm with Boxcharles and whoever he quoted on that topic.

[slash_rocks2005]

slipknot is a band that makes music and is popular, therefor it is hated by half and loved by half.

this story never gets old, different band, same story.

there will NEVER be a band that EVERYONE agrees has progressed musically while not selling out, and still retaining ALL it's original fans from its debut album- while at the same time not becoming at some point less successful than when in it's earlier days, short of the band losing a member to a death and therefor giving people an excuse to say, "well the only reason they don't sound as good as their prime is because (insert dead musician here) died/got killed/OD'd."

i see this same arguing everyday with a different band.

leave musicians alone...if you wanna bitch about someone 'selling out', go complain about rap artists with their own clothing line and energy drinks, or athletes with their own tennis shoes or sportswear.

besides, no one will ever become bigger 'sellouts' than KISS LOL. jk. sorry guys i just wanted to lighten this tense mood

[MattAnderson111]

Nihil wrote:

psychosocial sounds like their just trying to sell more to the 'scene' kids now, since nu-metal is pretty much dead.

they sell out every chance they get, who even cares is some of the writing is decent? there's too much good music out there to waste time listening to some average sell-out proclaiming that they're super hardcore to 13-year-olds

So age has something to do with music...really? So 12 year old cant listen to metal, because then all the older teens who think its cool to hate what younger kids suddenly hate the bands that the younger kids hate.

Learn something about music.

[randyaintdead82]

Steven E :
mayhem fest was good, i really miss it
POSTED: 08/19/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |

Me too, ah well wait till next year my friend

[whitesummer527]

b]slash_rocks2005[/b] wrote:

besides, no one will ever become bigger 'sellouts' than KISS LOL.

AYE!

[Stratogibson]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

if you call Psychosocial a "pop" song, you are an idiot!

[Stratogibson]

j-walk wrote:

vash_08 wrote:

Yeah I agree with you dude. Metal is beautiful, it was like climax of all music. After 1991 when met put out the black album and mega put out countdown and metal was huge all the sudden its like no one knew what to do after that, music became lazy ,hence grunge music.

You must not have heard of Pantera. They had four studio albums after 1991. They were heavy and also pretty darn successful. If you think that grunge was lazy then maybe you should listen to more than just Smells like teen spirit. That tends to be the only song people think of when grunge is mentioned. Anyways, I like the direction Slipknot is going. Some of the more stubborn music listers think that if its not fast and you don't have cookie monster lyrics, than its is not metal. What sets Slipknot apart is ummm....Talent, an attribute some metal bands lack.

[Skaterpirate69]

haha yeah psychosocial is pop, almost like backstreet boys are death metal.
seriously, how stupid can people get

[Skaterpirate69]

did anyone else notice that black tide was listed twice on there haha

[Johnonon]

they make me laugh

[Bunyip]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

and your just a guy on ultimate guitar called harpcicle bagging out people you dont know for doing a shit load more than you.

[Phoenix-Kun]

dan1985smith wrote:

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

All Hope is Gone is a poppy song? If you consider "Poppy" as one of their heavist, then yes, it is a "poppy" song.

You say that like it means its really heavy

Slipknot is not heavy, by any means

[Phoenix-Kun]

boxcharles wrote:

What blows my mind is seeing these guys shred in guitar instructional videos. Yet they don't show off in their music.

They do it very tastefully. And my god, Mick can sweep pick faster than Malmsteem.

You sir, clearly have never heard malmsteem play flight of the bumblebee, or well, anything he has written

[Masonpwiley]

Huggy (-. wrote:

vash_08 wrote:

You just described deathcore, not death metal
only a heavy metal fan would be so anal when labeling something.
Its all the same mate.

No it's not. Listen to Job for a Cryptopsy (Yes, that's not their actual name, I am making fun of them), and then go listen to Cryptopsy's old stuff. It's not the same at all.

[Masonpwiley]

I kinda ruined the joke there, but if you think deathcore=death metal, you would probably actually go searching for "Job for a Cryptopsy" and not find it.

This is kinda getting off topic, but how exactly are people supposed to discuss Slipknot's masks?

[boomtank]

to everyone who thinks slipknot blows, try the new album, it's worth it.

[S.D.M.F.]

Phoenix-Kun wrote:

boxcharles wrote:

What blows my mind is seeing these guys shred in guitar instructional videos. Yet they don't show off in their music.

They do it very tastefully. And my god, Mick can sweep pick faster than Malmsteem.


You sir, clearly have never heard malmsteem play flight of the bumblebee, or well, anything he has written

Amen bro! Malmsteen is the King of Shred!

[dupaman]

psychosocial is ****in awesome! i like it better then their older stuff, and can't wait for the album to come out!

[TSCREAM420]

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays

psychosocial is pop?

Just because they are singles, doesnt make them pop, and have u even heard the new record yet???? Its definitely top 2 of their albums as far as musicaly, sorry ur just wrong!

[TSCREAM420]

Stratogibson wrote:

harpcicle wrote:

very disappointed in the new album, should have gone back to iowa, not continued volume 3. i aint buying it and probably wont see any of their live shows now cause they keep playing poppy songs like psychosocial, all hope is gone, duality and the blister exists. even disasterpiece and spit it out dont sound as brutally heavy as they used to. theyr just a bunch of guys in masks nowadays


if you call Psychosocial a "pop" song, you are an idiot!

agreed

[ticklemeemo]

Tin_man wrote:
Think the masks are dumb, though. Music should speak for itself and not need a gimmick. I'm with Boxcharles and whoever he quoted on that topic.

I hear that a lot, but really I don't see the harm. A bunch of guys playing music is fine, just not real fun to watch. Slipknot's shows are entertaining, and that has made them more successful than other more musical bands.

[Tin_man]

ticklemeemo wrote:

Tin_man wrote:
Think the masks are dumb, though. Music should speak for itself and not need a gimmick. I'm with Boxcharles and whoever he quoted on that topic.


I hear that a lot, but really I don't see the harm. A bunch of guys playing music is fine, just not real fun to watch. Slipknot's shows are entertaining, and that has made them more successful than other more musical bands.

Makes sense. I still think you can be exciting without anything like that, though. Muse - Case in point. Certainly it adds an element to the live show, but I think they carry it a bit too far. But that's just my opinion, and I know a lot of people love the masks.

[Saffron_Inferno]

this kid in my country just put on a slipknot mask(corey taylor's old one)and he went craze and killed another kid with a samurai sword 2 days ago!apparently he was satanic.i wonder if slipknot knows about it

[KillEmAll]

this kid in my country just put on a slipknot mask(corey taylor's old one)and he went craze and killed another kid with a samurai sword 2 days ago!apparently he was satanic.i wonder if slipknot knows about it

They do, but to be honest with you its only retards that go and do that. Slipknot refused to comment on the situation

checked

[Clutch32192]

1. slipknot rocks
2. 9.0 live sucked except drum solo
3. joey jordeson is awesome

[malcolmcox]

KillEmAll wrote:

this kid in my country just put on a slipknot mask(corey taylor's old one)and he went craze and killed another kid with a samurai sword 2 days ago!apparently he was satanic.i wonder if slipknot knows about it


They do, but to be honest with you its only retards that go and do that. Slipknot refused to comment on the situation

yeah i heard about that just now.... i bet it'll be on ug tomorrow but yeah check the gauntlet or blabbermouth because it has an article with corey talking about it..... but i guess they decide to speak about it so yeah....

oh well can't wait until the 26th! ALL HOPE IS GONE MAGGOTS!!! stay sic

[gary666]

fein?
chris FEHN

[j-walk]

First off fuk nuts, fuk you! I listen to all music , trust me. And by metal being the climax, I meant it in the sense of playing guitar. I liked grunge and all that. Yes I heard of Pantera, Great southern trendkill baby - 96. Im not ignorant because I praise heavy metal and have my own opinion, okay Ladies?

[ADarkerBreed]

Slipknot is right... All hope is quite gone

[johnny_chops]

after listening to the new album i have this to say...this shit is awesome lol Gematria, Sulfer, This Cold Black, and Snuff are the stand out tracks to me besides both singles of course and before anyone gets pissed for downloading it early i already preordered it so i am BUYINGit stay ****in sic

[Alex Perry]

Slipknot fuking rules!!!!