With Coheed, Foo Fighters' Hawkins Rips Off Rush?

Taylor Hawkins, drummer for the Foo Fighters and one of the most respected drummers in rock today, performs on Coheed and Cambria's latest album 'No World For Tomorrow.'

The album, which is Coheed and Cambria's 4th studio album, features Hawkins on drums instead of current touring drummer Chris Pennie, who is formally of Dillinger Escape Plan. Supposedly, Pennie wasn't allowed to perform on Coheed and Cambria's 'No World For Tomorrow' due to a contract dispute with his former label. Taylor, who rose onto the music scene drumming for Alanis Morissette, has been a seminal part of the Foo Fighters, with Dave Grohl since the bands inception and they have also recently been nominated for 5 Grammy Awards, including a Grammy for Best Album at the 50th Anniversary Grammy Awards.

Video clip :

We caught up with Hawkins to get his thoughts on performing on Coheed and Cambria's latest album and with Claudio Sanchez's vocals sounding eerily similar to Geddy Lee of Rush, Hawkins felt he had to try and rip off a few Neil Peart drum licks as well.

Watch video: With Coheed Hawkins Tries To Rip Off Rush Drum Licks

"It was a blast because Nick Raskulinecz, one of my best friends produced it. So we just had a great time trying to rip off Rush drum licks."

Coheed and Cambria will be performing at a few Holiday one off radio shows before beginning a brief tour of Europe for January of 2008. After returning from Europe, Coheed and Cambria will next be supporting Linkin Park on all dates of their upcoming national tour.

The tour goes from February 12th in Omaha, Nebraska and extends until March 10th in Sacramento, California and will be hitting 19 cities, including Madison Square Garden in New York and Staples Center in Los Angeles. The dates come on the heels of Coheed's successful sold-out 25-date national headlining tour that wrapped at New York City's Roseland Ballroom on November 29, 2007. Taylor Hawkins and The Foo Fighters will start their 2008 Tour in support for 'Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace' on Jan 16th in Sunrise, Florida and they have dates booked in The U.S., Canada and Australia through May of 2008.

Comments

[The_String_Man]

wow.just,wow.haha.

[sevenchurches]

No one can copy Rush



NOOOOO OOOOONNEEEEE!!!!!

[C&C Magik]

why not try and be original?

oh well, it sounds fine to me.

[deadlyMETAL]

Hawkins is cool, don't know much of anything about Rush though.

[ShaDoW0lf]

I think he was kidding? He's actually flattering Rush's drummer, isn't he?
I don't think he was seriously out to rip Rush off, just trying to make riffs as awesome as Rush does?
'Cause if they were trying to, they failed. Their drumming is different, anyone can hear that.

[whatamidoinhere]

Course he's joking

You're hardly gonna record on an album then go out and say "hey, look how I plagiarised this! Good, innit?"

[mp3stalin]

C&C Magik wrote:

why not try and be original?

oh well, it sounds fine to me.

HE

IS

JOKING

[prot]

Neal Peart is one of the best drummers of all time. One of the only drummers I've ever heard that could actually keep up with him from a difficulty and musical style standpoint is Dream Theater's Mike Portnoy... Sorry Hawkins, but I just don't think you've got the parts to hang with those boys...

(I am actually a big Coheed fan, and also enjoy the Foo Fighters too, so I'm not saying that they're not good or anything)

[9badarv]

ok, everyone calm down. he's just joking. he's got too much respect for all these big names (Rush, Zeppelin, Queen, etc.)

[malakian123]

But still, Niel Peart is in a complete different league.
As a drummer myself I dont think Hawkins is anything special tbh. I think thats partly why i dont like NWFT. Josh was soo much better. Chris is awsome, but i wish Josh would have stayed :/

[HandT]

The guy is joking. Anyone who is a fan of both Rush and Coheed and Cambria can instantly tell the difference between what Geddy Lee and Claudio Sanchez sound like. They just both happen to play prog rock and have incredibly high vocal ranges.

[H_ngm_n]

I think it was pretty stupid to even put this on UG. It's only going start a bunch of crap, and give anit C&C people something to start flaming about.

[12-string]

Kurt Cobain isnt dead

[ethanw]

12-string :
Kurt Cobain isnt dead

holy shit

[efferus]

12-string :
Kurt Cobain isnt dead

I knew it...they've been lying to us this entire time!

[Deliriumbassist]

H_ngm_n wrote:

I think it was pretty stupid to even put this on UG. It's only going start a bunch of crap, and give anit C&C people something to start flaming about.

Agreed. The comment is obviously tongue in cheek,you can tell by the way he says it. The "interview" serves no purpose in this news item.

[webbtje]

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.

[KingSquall802]

Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time. taylor hawkins is a good drummer but it sucks when you hav to rip off to sombody else. its disappointing.

[deafening]

^ ur dumb

he didnt actually rip anything off, probably just made some peart-esque beats

[Nebblacktip]

12-string wrote:

Kurt Cobain isnt dead

Then who's skull do I have in my closet?

Also, I agree with everyone who says he's joking. Still the title of this article is misleading.

[Cobalt Blue]

this seemed miss leading, like they were you know openly plagerizing or something.

[shoebox_of_lies]

they should really make the title a little more misleading, if possible.

[MyImmortal]

Maybe they can make Rush sound decent now! *puts up flame shield*

*checked*

[TastyMooglePie]

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.

family guy!

[papersun87]

His stuff on the new album isn't as unique as Josh's, but his kit sounds WAY better. A snare drum that actually sounds like a *CRACK* and not a *thunk* when you hit it! What a philosophy!

[DamageMachine]

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.

Family Guy!!
It ain't easy being cheesy!

[CrowLord]

it seems that every single news i read on UG has a misleading title nowadays

[Macabre_Turtle]

Jesus Christ, UG. You did it again...

[TallNerdGuy]

Was that two sentence comment from Hawkins really enough to warrant a news topic?

[cusic]

deadlyMETAL wrote:

Hawkins is cool, don't know much of anything about Rush though.

Then you must be schooled!!

[qotsa1998]

Its soo sad that a good, semi commercially successful band has to open for a very commercially succesful band along the same lines of ICP and Limp Bizcut, just with a singer. Nothing against linkin park, but i guess i kinda grew out of em. Id much rather go see Coheed on a headlining tour than with LP. Too many teenys for me IMO.

Its pretty hard to rip off a drummer i think. Sure, u can rip off a drummer's style, and Neil's isnt too difficult for some1 like Taylor Hawkins to do, but i think its pretty hard for some1 professional and creative to blatantly copy another drummers style. For example, QOTSA did their most popular record with Dave Grohl. When Joey came in, it mustve been difficult to get Dave's fills on No One Knows. He does get close, but mainly improvises. And i really doubt Taylor can play as fast or as well as someone like Neil Peart.

[12-string]

heres the shit, cock **** **** shit **** **** ****

[fetus989]

I'm going to be honest.
I always thought Dave Grohl was the drummer for Foo Fighters.

HAH!
Stupid me.

[Shor-T Zero]

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.

^^ Family Guy hommage. Except it's something like this

*cuts up cheetos with small lade, takes glass straw, snorts cheetos, and in mid sentence busts the glass on a table cutting his hand*

OH GOD, there is NO F***ING DRUMMER BETTER THAN NEIL PEART

*looks at bloody hand*
*looks at viewer*
It ain't easy, being cheesy

[Confetti]

one of the most respected drummers in rock today

erh.. What?
The drumming sounds like shit on the NWFT record and what comes to that anounced fact ^
where does the UG people get these ideas??

It doesent sound anything like Rush.
The albums only miss was the drumming

[Guitar_Poet]

prot wrote:

Neal Peart is one of the best drummers of all time. One of the only drummers I've ever heard that could actually keep up with him from a difficulty and musical style standpoint is Dream Theater's Mike Portnoy... Sorry Hawkins, but I just don't think you've got the parts to hang with those boys...

+1..

i also detected some sarcasm in what he said, so i think he was probably joking too... if not hes just an idiot =)

[Guitar_Poet]

*notice he said TRYING to rip off Rush drum licks...

[FooCards]

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

[TDAJGuitarist]

HandT wrote:

The guy is joking. Anyone who is a fan of both Rush and Coheed and Cambria can instantly tell the difference between what Geddy Lee and Claudio Sanchez sound like. They just both happen to play prog rock and have incredibly high vocal ranges.

Exactly!
Well said!

[Insomnia57]

Hm, very misleading title..

[Confetti]

FooCards wrote:

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

... *sigh*

From the point i have to say that i agree that Dream Theaters drummer is over rated. But for the rest of it... Give me even one clip that Hawkins has a truly great drumming.

you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play.

Dont be so close minded. That comment sounded really ignorant.

[SideshowRaven24]

Insomnia57 :
Hm, very misleading title..

yeah it really is. its stupid too... they're both awesome drummers, and obviously neil peart is a faster, more technical drummer. But its different types of music too. Coheed happens to be my favorite band (alongside the mars volta) and i thought the drumming on the album was pretty solid, especially for a studio sit-in. It was just nothing to gawk over. but everyone seems to be taking this worthless news a little too seriously. Taylor just made one comment and of course it had to be on UG so everyone could compare drummers. Give it a rest, guys.

[Skadge_101]

Shor-T Zero wrote:

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.


^^ Family Guy hommage. Except it's something like this

*cuts up cheetos with small lade, takes glass straw, snorts cheetos, and in mid sentence busts the glass on a table cutting his hand*

OH GOD, there is NO F***ING DRUMMER BETTER THAN NEIL PEART

*looks at bloody hand*
*looks at viewer*
It ain't easy, being cheesy

that bit is still funny

is there nothing family guy cant do???

[kirkadolph]

FooCards wrote:

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

Overrated Dream Theater? What the hell are you talking about? They are so underrated for their musical capabilities its unbelievable. But then again..I guess you have to be a true musician to appreciate DT and LTE stuff...

[culex-knight]

He's ****ing joking you tools.

[rockr09]

How do you copy a drummer?

[WhereArtEsteban]

LOL, title and first 2 paragraphs made me think he was getting sued or somehting.

[bnull24]

FooCards wrote:

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

Regardless of Dream Theater, Neil Peart is on a completely different level than Hawkins, and all drummers for that matter. Not only does he play amazingly, but he was one of the first to play the drums like that. With that said, yes, I know Hawkins was joking. Also, I didn't see anyone misspell Peart.

[slashNpage77]

what kind of stuff do C&C play? i've never heard their stuff. (don't tell me to look it up, im too lazy to do that right now).
p.s. to FooCards you're a ****ing idiot. First of all why, just because we're teenagers, does that we're ignorant idiots. i actually have a 4.0 (5.0, weighted) and i have quite a broad range of musical tastes (with almost 6000 songs on my Ipod u cant tell me otherwise). btw, Dream Theater is probably one of the most underrated bands ever, judging by their incredible musicality and minimal fan base (its prob. one of the best group of fans for any band, though IMO) crawl the **** back in your hole and finish your game of WOW.

[slashNpage77]

just watched a taylor hawkins drum solo. it wasnt half bad, nothing original, but well played nonetheless. could use a bit more variety and use of rhythms, though.

[prot]

FooCards wrote:

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

Sorry there bud about the SPELLING MISTAKE... and surprise surprise, someone with FOO in their name defending their drummer. First off I'm in my 20's and not just some metal head, and secondly I do like the Foo Fighters but there's no way Hawkins plays like Peart or Portnoy... I suggest taking a look at some of their live videos on Youtube if you don't believe me.

If Taylor can play better than he does on the Foo Fighters albums, then why doesn't he show it? What is the point of having this hidden potential and not using it? That's what gets me about all these bands now days. Bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X, Rush, and most progressive bands play far more technically and skilled than your average band could even dream of. Besides, it must suck to be in a band knowing you could be replaced by Dave Grohl at the drop of a hat.

[drummerb]

john bonham pwnz neil peart by miles.

*waits for abuse*

[E_squared]

12-string wrote:

Kurt Cobain isnt dead

Well, I hate to break your bubble dude, but he actually IS!!

[Spoony_Bard]

prot wrote:
If Taylor can play better than he does on the Foo Fighters albums, then why doesn't he show it? What is the point of having this hidden potential and not using it?

He showed it on Coheed's new album. Fantastic drumming.

[israels_son]

Taylor Hawkins is an amazing drummer in his own right.

[warfalcon53]

Neil pert sucks *******s and so does the news on here. "we were having fun tryin to rip off rush drum licks". its a fun thing, the name implies something worse. i ****ing hate the news on ultimate-guitar.

[warfalcon53]

i cant wait to see how checked that shit gets

[warfalcon53]

oh and to that **** face foocards, "if youre so prolific on how great..." thats the wrong use of the word prolific you stupid cock

[aliceinnirvana]

He's joking.
You all seriously need to take the stick from your ass.
This is a pretty misleading article.

[Kaervek]

deadlyMETAL wrote:

Hawkins is cool, don't know much of anything about Rush though.

And you call yourself metal.

[Havenspear]

Fuckin' titles, always leading me on. Man...

[Second Rate]

drummerb wrote:

john bonham pwnz neil peart by miles.

*waits for abuse*

I like Led Zeppelin, but NONE of the members of that band were very good outside of the context of Led Zeppelin. Peart's snare technique alone is ridiculous for a rock drummer.

As for Hawkins' comment about ripping off of Neil Peart. It's no big deal if he did. Lots of drummers swipe ideas from other drummers. John Bonham and Jeff Porcaro both stole Bearnard Purdie's "Purdie Shuffle." There's even a video of Neil Peart floating around out there where he talks about a few fills he "stole" from Steve Gadd. Drummers aren't nearly as nit picky as guitar players when it comes to things like that.

[InTheClouds]

Hmmm
I think he misused the term "rip off."
Either that or he was kidding.

[[[.:jess:.]]]

...ALANIS MORISSETTE...

AHAHAHAHA!

[GuitarSymphony]

Every artist rips off other people. intentionally or unintentionally. This is a news article? Hardly.

Also, Claudio does not sound like Geddy. GTFO

[Deliriumbassist]

[[.:jess:.]] wrote:

...ALANIS MORISSETTE...

AHAHAHAHA!

Is one of the greatest artists of recent times, well done.

[Captain Chaos]

This doesnt bother me. Every band should learn from Rush.

[maximusprime123]

Pretty much everyone that posted here is a douche. Hawkins makes a tongue in cheek 20 word comment and we get miles up on miles of sh*t discussion. It's amazing that everyone here has some stupid 2 cents worth comment to make and it all piles up to the most snobbish closed minded load of crap I have ever seen. Why can't you people learn to appreciate humour and the different styles of those whole play music?

[BlindedAngel]

Why are we even discussing drum news on a guitar forum?

[JimPrenier_11]

Neil Peart is one of the best drummers of all time, as for Geddy Lee, I'm not a big fan of his lyrics but I do like Rush and I hate people who copy music from other musicians

[Bad_Karma333]

JimPrenier_11 wrote:

Neil Peart is one of the best drummers of all time, as for Geddy Lee, I'm not a big fan of his lyrics but I do like Rush and I hate people who copy music from other musicians

Oh, yea, FYI Peart is the lyricist.

Secondly, a statement about this whole thread

WHY!!!????!!!???!??

[Pukka-VCU]

prot wrote:
If Taylor can play better than he does on the Foo Fighters albums, then why doesn't he show it?

Because sometimes you have to go with what works with the sound your band is aiming for. You can't deny Grohl dumbed down his skills to fit with Nirvana's sound.

[Shpongled]

So how was this whole article written based off of a interview that was not even ten seconds long?

[Decembero]

Shpongled wrote:

So how was this whole article written based off of a interview that was not even ten seconds long?

Because UG struggles to find decent news nowadays. Theres filler news every day about single quotes, or Pete Wentz got a haircut or random crap.

[Holy-Diver]

FooCards wrote:

hey if you idiots are so prolific on how great neil peart is why do you keep misspelling his name. you are probably 15 y/o ignorant metal heads and have never heard taylor really play. he can hang with portnoy and the others believe me. in my opinion he is better than portnoy and overrated Dream Theater.

portnoy is by far a better drummer than hawkins even if portnoy is overrated

Bad_Karma333 wrote:

JimPrenier_11 wrote:

Neil Peart is one of the best drummers of all time, as for Geddy Lee, I'm not a big fan of his lyrics but I do like Rush and I hate people who copy music from other musicians


Oh, yea, FYI Peart is the lyricist.

Secondly, a statement about this whole thread

WHY!!!????!!!???!??

are you saying neil peart sings? if so then you are an idiot

[nevereverever]

ur an idiot a lyricist is the person who writes the lyrics not sings them Holy-Diver u fu.ck goof

btw kurt cobain is alive i saw him yesterday

[chevelletmb]

wow... this is the dumbest article ever, has ug become star magazine? its so beyond obvious that coheed hasnt copied any of rush's stuff.

if there is any admin worth living you should take this article down

[kurtcobainpwns]

Skadge_101 wrote:

Shor-T Zero wrote:

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.


^^ Family Guy hommage. Except it's something like this

*cuts up cheetos with small lade, takes glass straw, snorts cheetos, and in mid sentence busts the glass on a table cutting his hand*

OH GOD, there is NO F***ING DRUMMER BETTER THAN NEIL PEART

*looks at bloody hand*
*looks at viewer*
It ain't easy, being cheesy


that bit is still funny

is there nothing family guy cant do???

yes their is and this is be funny SOUTH PARK RULES!!!!

[Neverlife]

webbtje wrote:

*snorts Cheetos, slams down fist on keyboard*

No... he couldn't copy Rush licks...

THERE IS NO BETTER DRUMMER THAN NEAL PEART!!!


E-cookies to anyone who gets what I'm on about.

so true, so true

[StupidMF]

This was stupid. Yes-his voice is similar, but that doesn't necessarily mean the band ripped them off. Not to mention-they were probably being extremely sarcastic about ripping off drum beats. Come on? This wasn't even worth reading -.-

[crimsongrod]

Claudio Sanchez and Geddy Lee may have what people consider "a simmilar singing voice", but truely the lyrical aspect is in a totaly different world. I don't think there is a band like Coheed and Cambria, and I don't think there is a band like Rush.