Did Ted Nugent Puke On Himself To Avoid Draft?

Ted Nugent has been accused by Dee Snider of being a "draft dodger" who avoided signing up to the army.

"Ted's always been a gun-toting conservative. But what gets me is that he was actually a draft dodger," Snider told Noisecreep, "to the point where he didn't bathe for a week, and vomited on himself to deliberately avoid the draft," which presumably means the army.

"I totally understand why he did that, but all of these Republicans who love Ted don't seem to know or remember that too well. It's crazy that he's become one of the voices of Conservative America even though he was a draft dodger," added Snider.

Nugent was quick to respond via Twitter:

Shame on @deesnider for falling for the big lie I challenge u to man up to the truth We xpected btr

— Ted Nugent (@TedNugent) January 23, 2013

Whatever the truth is, Snider still thinks most Republican rockers are hypocrites:

"It's mind-numbing how many conservative rock musicians there are now. That's so convenient when you have a lot of money. 'Now I have money, so I'm a Republican.' But when they were broke, struggling musicians, they were liberal and all for sharing the wealth. It's so convenient."

What do you think of the draft-dodging rumor? Are rich Republican rockers just hypocrites? Share your opinion in the comments.

Comments

[introvert10]

Dee Snider 1
Ted Nugent 0

Get your popcorn ready

[Nero Galon]

*DING DING!*

[Mouloudo]

holy crap this dude just said what I wrote about Mustaine several weeks ago, almost down to the word props to him

[dannydesktop]

dee snyder is a great man, he fought the good fight with biafra and zappa against those trying to suppress free speech in music, and now he's sticking it a rapist (Nugent also admitted to having sex with young teen girls as a grown man, look it up, "got ya in the stranglehold" **** you ted)

[IrishConnor1994]

well, in the words of rednecks, "If you can bleed, you can breed"

[saint_berzerker]

And how does an unemployed Canuck know anything about so-called "rednecks"?

[MonsterOfRock]

Looks like hes not gonna take it.

[The7000Frogs]

No, he ain't gonna take it.

[Mcleod89]

He's not gonna take it anymore.

[JMZ08]

One more time!

[Dude475]

He's not gonna take it!

[Macejko]

I wanna stop STOP !

[Nero Galon]

No, I WANNA RAWK!

[inkrakenwetrust]

You are the weakest link

[introvert10]

There ain't no way he's losin'

[I.shower.naked]

No, he ain't gonna take it!

[Camron62\m/]

are we thrrough herre? ah gotta take a krap.

[kLeft]

I'd post some lyric to a different song here, except those are the only two songs I know...

[reignofrock]

You're gonna burn in hell!

[BjarnedeGraaf]

that was too easy xD

[UniformRecon]

Dee Snider to Ted Nugent: "Go suck a cock COCK!"

[headstone05]

Probably the best thread on UG ever

[I.shower.naked]

Ted Nugent's Reply: "I was possessed by Obama, I tell ya hwhat."

[p_a_morgan]

G'yat dang it, Bobbeh.

[Do Re Mi]

That Ted ain't right.

[The7000Frogs]

Ted probably wants to challenge Dee for a shoot-out or something like that.

[TJWhonley]

now that would be interesting...

[jschexna]

De Snider is a joke. He is a mix of washed up has been and a neverbeen. Go suck an egg Dee.

[ItMightGetQuiet]

i like eggs

[KerNeL_KLuTcH]

ok debbie

[Freddiez79]

Ted seems kinda washed up as well. What little he did in the world of music is not that impressive.

[getawaygman]

well nugent has vehemently denied dodging the draft. watch his piers Morgan interview

[batti]

but for now we only have his word for it and of course he´s going to deny it, what with him cozying up to the military lovers

[Schwimmy]

Exactly what I was thinking

[coltsteel]

What's he gonna say? On one hand he had rock and roll, all the chicks, drugs and money he wanted, the other, a most likely death or injury in Vietnam. Tough choice. He was a kid who didn't want in but now his over the top words put him into the spotlight. He should have just shut his mouth and kept shooting turkeys or whatever the hell he shoots on his ranch.

[scottco86]

Dee Snider is actually a pretty smart dude. Remember he was the one that had to face the supreme court or whatever it was when "rock and roll/heavy metal" was under attack by the PMRC. He did his homework and even though he looked like a freak he wasnt a drug addict or wasted at all.

[Abacus11]

Yeah, I can't stand Snider's music (Twisted Sister's hits were catchy.... just not my thing) but his testimony about free speech in the face of the PMRC was brilliant.

[Crimson.King]

It wasn't the supreme court but a congressional hearing that also included Frank Zappa and John Denver speaking against proposed regulation and explicit/satanic lyric warning labels.

To illustrate what a joke the PMRC was, they proposed a satanic lyric warning label for Frank Zappa's "Jazz From Hell" album. The album was 100% instrumental, no lyrics

Check out

for some footage of the proceedings with commentary by Frank Zappa.

[Braykah]

If this is true about Ted, well, it doesn't surprise me.

[TRAVISgordon]

ted nugent will always be our american badass even if this is true. hes nothin but awesome

[iommi600]

It's not exactly "badass" to be a warmonger, political nutcase, if you ask me.

[Vicryl 2.0]

redneck loyalty check... never fails

[headstone05]

I would say shooting your mouth off i favor of war but running away when it's time to go fight would be the opposite of badass

[Abacus11]

Ted Nugent pukes on himself every time he speaks.

[skull_king]

You mean shits himself every time he speaks. Because that's all he spews out every time he opens his mouth

[rebreh]

According to Snopes, a website that determines the validity of urban legends, Nugent's dodge of the draft is undetermined. There is not enough evidence to swing this in any direction

[lithium_boy]

that website is awesome, thanks for turning me onto it!

[rebreh]

Newt Gingrich served! Ron Paul Is a Chickenhawk who draft dodged to Iran.

There are a lot of draft dodgers in the Republican party. (The title is messed up. Newt is the chickenhawk who dodged the draft. Ron Paul served)

[p_a_morgan]

Gingrich sounds like a deadly growth upon one's ball sack. lol owait it is.

Kidding. He's just a Cabbage Patch Adult.

[Obsceneairwaves]

I xpectd btr spelling from...

actually, you know what?

no I didn't.

[BigMikeBDD]

I must have missed the part where Twitter is a platform for proper grammar. In fact, it's the complete opposite.

[kettmannism]

Nugent also denies ever having taken drugs, but my friends parents were good friends with him and said they used to get high with him all the time. It's all part of his "image".

[UncleBluck]

No DOUBT. You dont get like Ted without having done ALOT of drugs

[Face R1pper]

They are both morons. Both of their music careers suck now so they feel the need to act like they're on a reality TV show.

[PeterPdeC]

"'Now I have money, so I'm a Republican.' But when they were broke, struggling (fill in the blank), they were liberal and all for sharing the wealth. It's so convenient."

Welcome to the world of politics...

[KerNeL_KLuTcH]

cause they realized that when you work hard for your money you don't want to give it away

[Freddiez79]

Yeah its called greed.

[blizzboy]

It seems that most celebrities/rockers/whatever are actually liberal, so idk what Snider's talking about. I'm a poor Republican, and a rocker.

[Maiden95]

The story is true as of what I was told by my history teacher a couple years ago. He said something along the lines of Ted was given a notice to show up a couple weeks in advance, so being Ted he wore the same clothes for that entire amount of time, pissed, shat and puked all over the clothes, and of course didn't shower.

When he showed up they sent him away saying he was insane.

Again, just the story I was told.

[eVwaylon]

im broker 'an shit and im a republican

[SwaggleyKubrick]

Am I the only one who doesn't understand Nuge's reply at all?
Man up to what truth? Why should Dee man up to anything? He's not the accused...

[xBlaze96x]

Ted Nugent sucks....Dee Snider is alright....Ted is just a a**hole who can't seem to get over that Obama won and Romney didn't. Romney would have gotten us into a shithole we could never have escaped....plus we don't need to be run by a rich dude who has never known what it was like to be poor.

[marbelized]

Whether he dodged or not, he didn't serve. Some people want to make Ted a gun idol even though he's really done nothing admirable. He just another armed loudmouth.

[Vicious_Turtle]

why is the ug news?

[KerNeL_KLuTcH]

people seem to be forgetting that all the draft dodgers were pardoned and who the **** cares, and i guarantee most of you would have dodged it too so who are you to judge, ug let's get back to real music news.

[ne14t]

Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ted Nugent that was in the Oct. '77 issue of High Times (Johnny Rotten cover)

There is a similar interview in the Sept. '77 Creem magazine (interview with Susan Whitall)

High Times:
How did you get out of the draft?

Nugent:
"Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin' it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin' around, hippying down, getting' loaded and pickin' my ass like your common curs, I'd say "Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin' around in the gutters." But I wasn't a gutter dog. I was a hard workin', mother****in' rock and roll musician.
I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin' and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin' kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I'd drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.
See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin' dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I'm gonna play their own game, and I'm gonna destroy 'em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin' awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I've always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded mother *****. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn't know and I'm vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was -- 'cause I was really into bein' clean and on the ball -- I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.
So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn't believe the smell. They were ridiculin' me and pushin' me around and I was cryin', but all the time I was laughin' to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, "Oh my God, put those back on! You *****' swine you!" Then they had a urine test and I couldn't piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin' up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin' up. So I went home and cleaned up.
They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick ass. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They'd call dead people before they'd call my ass. But you know the funny thing about it? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of mother****in' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it. I was too busy doin' my own thing, you know?"

[SwaggleyKubrick]

Really seems as though he was a nervous wreck, who was literally shitting himself out of fear, doing drugs (which he claimed to be against) as a kind of "escape". And then later tries to justify it and say he wasn't a little bitch, it was his plan all along, and he's the toughest mutha out there.... he was just busy.

[Crimson.King]

I don't blame the draft-dodging. Who wanted to get killed in a rice paddy 10,000 miles from home for a war that made no sense? But to turn it around and act like a pro-military patriot now is just a bit too convenient.

So was Ted lying then or is he lying now?

[saint_berzerker]

Both Dee and Ted fall for the right/left paradigm. What a shame...expected at least Dee was more intelligent than that.

[UncleBluck]

.....He mentions the Rich/poor version as well

[PsiGuy60]

You know, if Ted did puke and shit all over himself to avoid getting drafted I really couldn't care less.
The guy's crazy, we knew that a long time ago.

[UncleBluck]

The Nuge is a coward....no doubt about it....Musically I only listened to him as a novelty.....I mean how do you take something like "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" seriously.....

[GeekInThePink]

Does a 12-year old run Ted Nugent's Twitter?

[badfish_lewis]

Never knew this about Ted, never really like him anyway though. I'd say its time for him to shut up but that came and went a long time ago. Perhaps UG should just stop making Nugent articles

[Vicryl 2.0]

a couple of years ago some dude pulled a gun at Dee snider, he slapped the guy twice and then dee left. the guy with the gun was just in the street still standing probably thinking "what the **** just happened".. lol

[Skuzzmo]

"Man Up" via twitter. HAHAHAHA

Nugent is a ****. Respect to Mr Snider.

[guitar67]

Why the f**k should Dee man up, Theodore is the draft dodger. WTF! Anyway, typical Republican response, to go after the guy who is correct! Republicans are great at attacking the guy who is attacking them. They love to turn it around on the other guy! Romney and Theodore should go bowling together. They both dodged Nam! Romney was in Paris on a religious mission and Theodore was shitting himself to avoid the draft! God damn Chicken Hawks!

[bigalpringle]

Didn't Iggy Pop dodge the draft by stripping naked in the queue or something? And now he advertises car insurance.

F*** THE SYSTEM YEAH!!!!

[headstone05]

if he stripped naked against auto insurance I'd agree. But car insurance and war aren't even remotely the same.

[allamericandude]

Honestly, rumors like this are fun to think about, but this one just seems too silly to be true. It sounds like one of those things that originated from someone who's politically opposed to Ted and got more and more crazy over time--sort of like the rumors about Obama's birth certificate or Bush's college fraternity. I mean, just look at that High Times "interview" where Ted supposedly humiliates himself in the grossest ways possible. Things like that are just too "perfect" to be true, at least without actual evidence. (And let's be honest here--I don't think a magazine called "High Times" is going to be the most unbiased source of information regarding Ted Nugent. They're not exactly known for their love of Republicans.)

I don't particularly care either way for Nugent's political views. His opinions are his opinions, that's fine. But if you're politically opposed to Nugent (or anyone, for that matter), then debate him politically. Ad hominem attacks such as these are pointless and immature.

[Punkbri1]

True,but the 77 article was way before anyone knew of his political leanings,and it was surely before we had the kind of journalistic divisiveness that we have now.

[allamericandude]

Oh, the 60's and 70's were very politically divisive. Vietnam sort of set a really bad tone.

I know people won't like that I'm "defending" Ted Nugent, but I've just learned to take stories like this with a pinch of salt. Especially on the internet.

[UncleBluck]

Anyone around back in the seventies, such as myself, knows that Ted Nugent often told the story about avoiding the draft and it can be verified in more than just 1 article. There were several. The thing is back then it was cool to hate war and avoid it if possible and guys like Ted would tell there story to everyone who wanted to hear it. Now of course things are quite different and i am sure Ted would like for his story to dissapear, but he said it over and over again back then and there is written documentaion.....

[Alice2Mudgarden]

Go Dee Snider

[Punkbri1]

Ted Nugent also became the legal guardian of an underage girl so he could have sex with her,and he has several kids out of wedlock.Ordinarily this is typical for a 70's rock star,but Nuge comes across as Captain america and Mr.Family Values.He is a hypocritical ass.

[Psycho Pigeon]

He's not about 'family values' he's about getting the state out of the peoples lives

[jthm_guitarist]

It's not a rumor, Ted told the story himself multiple times in multiple interviews

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/...

[dpotts2]

It amazes me how many 'war hawks' were really draft dodgers. Our previous president who started multiple wars was in fact a draft dodger. He went into the national guard to avoid the draft and then went 'awol' on that. It would not suprise me at all if Ted in fact dodged the draft.

[Face R1pper]

Republican =/= War Hawk

Otherwise Obama would be a Republican.

[Psycho Pigeon]

Communists incoming to tell us how great the state is.

[DaysoftheBlue]

Im sure coal miners in West Virginia who work 60 hours a week and still rely on government aid to feed their kids would be moved by Ted's struggle.

[Dnouw]

I heard that Ted actually shit and pissed himself first before the vomit. True American hero right there.

[guitar67]

Thanks! I laughed my ass off with your comment! So true! lol

[RycheRulz]

All I have to say is, Dee....were you there? Can you prove it? No? Then shut up. Liberals with the whole "share the wealth" outlook have NO clue. WORK for your money, bust your butt to get it. Stop whining!

[Face R1pper]

"Share the wealth" isn't a liberal idea, its socialist.
A liberal would agree much more with "work for your money" than with "share the wealth".

[RycheRulz]

Not the Liberals I know! I think they're using the wrong label then.

[guitarist41]

You have an overly-simplistic view of the world.

[guitar67]

This story was in numerous publications in the 70's, including High Times and a similar story in Creem magazine! I'm sorry that you hate to here the truth about your conservative heroes, including Romney, Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, etc. They all pulled the same kind of shenanigans to dodge NAM! If this story isn't true Nugent can and will sue for liable. The problem is he won't because it is true. Like most good reporters they probably have the whole damn interview on audio tape and Theodore knows it. Sorry to destroy your world view on your conservative heroes!

[guitarist41]

Tweedle Dee bad-mouthing Tweedle Dumb.

[SmurfGenocide]

Who gives a flying **** what Dee or Ted think? They are rock stars. You play music; played music that was popular at some time. Their beliefs and opinions matter just about as much as a movie star's.

[Snake™]

Normally I don't like Dee, but he makes a very valid point here.

[tshugart]

I love how Nugent is known for guns on top of just being a general dick. These are the exact people who shouldn't own a gun. They're unstable nutcases.

[SlayerX114]

He shat his pants too.

[crazyhorse174]

Surely it would be pretty easy to prove\disprove this? If he didn't dodge the draft, then he would've been in one of the armed forces - there must be people who served with him and can vouch for him. Or the military themselves must have evidence that he served?

[saint_berzerker]

From what I can tell, sounds like Dee is not knocking him for dodging the draft, just that he's gung-ho about sending other peoples kids to die....which is spot on.

[guitar67]

Exactly! It's Ted's bullshit hypocrisy and others like Romney, Cheney, Limbaugh, etc...
All together now class! Deferments, Deferments, Deferments!

[guitar67]

Unfortunately for Ted, it isn't his story that is out of the ordinary for the 60's and 70's, but his full 180 degree change in attitude. Republicans are notorious for this kind of hypocrisy. Nothing new here when it comes to conservative Chicken Hawkism!

[martin.popoff.9]

Look, you know when he talks about being in the asset column? He's making up for any past avoidance every day of every year now. I wrote about this whole thing in my book Epic Ted Nugent, but can't remember the details - I have KJ talking about it too.