Dave Mustaine has been avoiding press interviews to save himself from making controversial statements on record, but fan footage from a recent show has caught him making what could be his most outlandish statement yet.
Speaking on stage after on August 7 in Singapore, Mustaine addressed the crowd after having a shoe thrown at him before entering conspiracy-theory mode:
"Back in my country, my president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border, in Aurora Colorado [the Batman massacre], all the people that were killed there — and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."
Shaking his head, perhaps to rattle out any final remains of common sense, he continued: "God, I was talking our promoter and I was saying 'I don't know where I'm going to live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America.'"
Mustaine frequently makes his feelings on the President known. In a recent radio interview, Mustaine said he was "disgusted" with Obama and revived his claims that the President was born in Kenya: "Hello?! C'mon, guys, how stupid are we right now?"
He added: "Sometimes our fans that are younger, they look to me as a big brother, or even a father figure, because I really care a lot about them. But I have never been more terrified in my life about what's happening to our country."
Watch footage of Mustaine accusing Obama of staging the recent shootings around the US here (skip to the start of the clip to see Mustaine slamming the guy who threw a shoe at the stage):
What do you think of Dave's comments? Should he stick to making music, or does he have a point? Should he try to provide some evidence for his outlandish claims next time? Let us know your reaction in the comments.
absolutely....people who descredit these accusations because they cannot fathom big brother turning against them need to do their research before calling questioners of the official story crazy...
I wouldn't say numerous times. They have been proven to have been proposed to presidents. That doesn't mean at all that dave is right here. This is just nonsense.
IKR The minute, the government decides to talk on gun policy, a bunch of people go mental and start going on a shooting spree I wouuld enjoy here In Jamaica. Dont downvote me aite? its a coincidence...Just a coincidence... Dave is wierd, but looking past the dumbas*erry i think im on to something.
I'm not sure what's worse, Mustaine's paranoid comments, labeled "Republican," or the equalyl and oppositely charged and completely moronic comments that can only be labeled "Democrat." How did this article spiral into gun control? And worse; gun control discussed by a bunch of close minded individuals sure of their superiorty, with a few exceptions. At least Mustaine has an open mind and considers two sides to an issue, as shown by his latest insanity above.
But dude what if hes right- lots of goverments stage things so certain law would be passed, Why does America think that theor governments are so righteous and noble? like the 9/11 thing i wouldnt be surprosed if my old buddy George Bush did that so he could go attack Iraq.If someone like Kirk Wahmett or someone else said im pretty sure u guys would put his conspiracy-theory into consideration
Yes that blatantly makes sense, the president staged it all. It's not like allowing deranged individuals with problems to buy guns freely lead to all the shootings.
Your right it doesn't blatantly make sense, but when you look into what he's talking about it beguines to. Yes people of mental incompatibility does lead to some shootings but it does not lead to them all and nto on the scale we are seeing today. James holmes was a university student yet he was found after the aurora shooting wearing almost $8,000 worth of guns and gear. While there is no report admitting to supplying Holmes there is this report, have a read. It is about previous government operation of selling guns to mexican drug cartels. http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_il... l#ixzz23Ne1tgJa
I may be wrong, and won't pretend to have followed the story after the initial reportings, but from what I heard on the news over here James Holmes was a recent university drop-out from a reasonably prestigious course. Who's to say he didn't feel like his life was over, and go off the rails a bit while spiralling into insanity/depression?
What makes it even stranger about james holmes, is that he was studying neuroscience just before he dropped out, he had been for over a year. From what iv'e been reading his father is the senior lead scientist at fair Issac/FISCO( a company dealing with credit ratings over company;s and corporations). It's probable to believe he didnt feel he was living up to his fathers expectations,etc that might be why he was under medical supervision. However when you note that his supervisor used to be the top scientist for the US airforce physical medicine it leaves you more open to the possibility that he was prescribed drugs that would make him more susceptible to do actions not of his own accord. if your interested have a look into 'MK Ultra'
The gun ban would be to unarm the public, in a sense preparation by the government to have the upperhand if country-wide riots happened. The Dept of Homeland Security are already buying bullets, and the DHS ONLY are stationed here, yet they buy 750 million rounds of ammo. hmm. http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-purchase-... rounds-of-ammo/
You forget that there are other departments that fall under the DHS umbrella that require guns. Customs and Border Patrol for example. Also the ATF and during peacetime even the Coast Guard is part of DHS, so its not very surprising that they are buying ammo.
It would make guns harder to get hold of. It's like alcohol - a LOT of people drink because it's easy to get and is legal. Pot is harder to get due to it being illegal, but if it became legal more people would do it.
Thing is, the original right to bare arms was written when the US had the threat of invasion. Like the bible it doesn't really apply centuries later - or should be reconsidered.
That said, I'm from the UK and guns are illegal here, so I don't know what it's like to want them around. Apparently our violent crime is worse than yours, so
I guess it works both ways! I just think the 'criminals don't stick to laws anyway' argument is daft. Outside of everything, if you had no guns gun crime would be reduced significantly.
Also, I don't know about you but I'm sure Obama just said 'it was a tragedy' and has made no mention of an intention to ban guns.
The right to bear arms is for the people to defend themselves from the government in case they infringe on our rights. But you from the UK, so you make false assumptions about everything American. People will get what they want illegal or not. Weed isn't harder to get at all and if it was legal you can't say more will do it because that's a logical fallacy.. "Oh so pots now legal? Awesome! Lets go smoke some!!!!" You can use it with alcohol if it was illegal and became legal. "Oh so alcohol is now legal? Awesome! Lets go drink!!!!"
Uh... I don't make false assumptions about anything, I was merely saying that so I could admit that I don't understand it the same way as Americans. I actually love America, as much as my own country, so don't make assumptions about me.
And yeah, I fail to see why that wouldn't happen. I don't smoke it because it's illegal; it's not worth the risk. I have friends who stopped because they got arrested for smoking it, but if it was legal again they'd start. Unless they're selling weed at your local store I'm pretty sure it is harder to get hold of than alcohol.
"Thing is, the original right to bare arms was written when the US had the threat of invasion." I guess assumption was the wrong word. But at least where I live, there is a drug dealer almost at every corner store. so quite easy.
Those people have already smoked before. I was taking about people that have never done it or "will never do it." Those people might never start it anyways if it was legalized. Just saying.
Okay, I think my wording was bad there. But, just think, theoretically, if guns were banned (please understand I'm not saying they should be) then ultimately you'd have less to fear. If he's gonna stab you instead, you can run. A gun, not really. Every time I see someone say 'that won't stop criminals' I want to tell them to compare US gun crime to gun crime where those guns are banned. Do you see what I mean? But, like I said, apparently violent crime is worse here so it doesn't account for much.
My main point was that I keep hearing various people saying 'how do we stop gun crime?' but they completely ignore the obvious answer 'get rid of guns'. To reiterate, I'm not saying that's my personal opinion.
It doesn't matter whether they'd smoked before or not - there still would be more people doing it because there's no threat of law hanging over them anymore.
I understand what you're saying. But these shootings don't reoccur too often as people tend to believe. People die everyday.. and maybe one day more die than others. It's sad but banning guns in America, at least in my opinion, wouldn't do much. If people want to go out a shoot, they will find a way to do such.
No the right to bear arms is because when the U.S. was a new country it was constantly at risk from being invaded so the residents were encouraged to take up their own arms in the form of militias. Now you have one of the highest funded armies on the planet and still think you need to walk around with guns.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the Right of the people to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed." That's the amendment. Regardless of how you interepert this amendment it clearly says "[this right] shall not be infringed" So if the government takes away guns from Americans thats bullshit because it clearly says that it "shall not be infringed." Blahblahblah this was written so long ago it doesn't matter that way. Well sorry that's not the case. It is what we use to run our whole government STILL! You can't look at one thing in the constitution and say "Yeah, okay lets have that certain thing because it makes sense," then say "No! That was written too long ago (not like the others though!!) so we can't use it because I don't like it.."
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
~George Washington
Yeah and which ratified amendment has taken something out of the constitution and replaced it? As far as I know they only add to it or make it more clear.
Please clear this up with me.
I'm not saying it should be removed dude - I'm just saying that times change, and amendments have been used to reflect that.
And I believe voting was changed from 21 to 18 in 1971.
I agree but that doesn't void the fact of it saying "shall not be infringed." It is one of the only times it says it, if there are any more besides that.
again, I'm only saying this stuff so people look at the other side rather than bash.
Technically, at the time it was created, it was so a guerilla style army could be called upon if the british invaded again. Some years later, I doubt that will happen again
Yeah... like Weed.
Weed is illegal.
Has it stopped anyone from smoking it?
Phuk No!!!
Well, If we made Weed legal could we regulate it Control it and keep it out of the hands of under aged users and crazy people.
Wrong!!!
AK 47s are regulated there are laws that govern Shit like this, Do they work.....
Phuk NO!!!
That only works on law abiding citizens...
Dissarming Law abiding Citizins.
Great Idea....
Pass a Law that makes pot smoking manditory for crazys.
Problem Solved.
I agree with you. Look into the UN gun ban and the "fast and furious" scandal that Dave spoke of briefly. Someone else further down made a point about MK Ultra. It's widely accepted that our own government has(most likely still does) researched and carried out mind control experiments.
The government includes state governments, especially mine (texas), and the House of Representatives, who are really screwing our country over. So yeah, taking a good long look at our government would do us all good.
I do understand him up to a certain point, but I think he is bad to express his opinion. And for people hating on Mustaine for a 4 lines quote, this is true retardness.
Now Dave, you have to choice. 1, your write a book or give us a 2 hours interview on how you think the world should be. Or 2, shut the **** up. Damn, he needs to stop to shout some controversial shit just for advertising...
How is this going to get him any possible good advertising? As a lot of people have said on this page alone is that he just needs to be quiet, it even says at the start he has avoided interviews. I'd say it's pretty clear that he feels so strongly about these views he cannot help but speak about them.
These people throwing around the words "Nazi" and "Communist" have no clue what they mean. Apparently Obama is turning the USA in a Nazi-communist state.
I honestly worry for people in America, too. I worry that people like Dave have too much power, and will possibly gain more power through elections etc.
People who spout off about wild conspiracy theories have no power in the US. They are very quickly dismissed as idiots, and only wield power in internet chat rooms and syndicated radio shows.
The average American citizen would consider the idea that Obama had anything to do with the Aurora shootings laughable.
I lean to the right myself, to be honest, but you're giving us a worse name than Glenn Beck.
I don't like Obama either, but I also don't believe he's behind a huge murder conspiracy to outlaw firearms. That's just as ridiculous as claiming that Bush was responsible for 9/11.
Be quiet and write a song about it. United Abominations and Endgame were way better than Th1rt33n anyways...
I look to him as a musician. Someone who isn't afraid to speak how he feels, which in the earlier days seemed to make sense. But now he backs up his "facts" with nothing. He's consumed by one little idea that "Obama is bad" so everything else that is bad is now suddenly connected to him.
If he has an opinion, he can state it but have some facts to back it up and don't say "This is fact" but "This is what I think".
So to me, Dave who says these things, and the Dave in Megadeth are different people. Maybe I just want to think of Megadeth in a positive way without bringing this Dave into it.
I personally know people who like Metallica that are also idiots, therefore you're an idiot because you have a Metallica avatar... now does it seem fair to lump people into the same boat based on one common denominator?
Being a moderator does not mean being above the 'law' of the site - if you feel I, or any other mod, are behaving unfairly you are perfectly welcome to PM another mod about it. In this case, however, I fail to see what your issue is. If you are unable to fully-understand my comment, then I need not apologise for simplifying this to an infant level...
You made an assumption that 'democrats' accuses _____ of happening, when it was actually just a bunch of people, many of whom also happened to be democrats. To point out the ignorance of that assumption, I made another unfair assumption as an example, and then asked if you saw how that link was as unfair as yours. We clear yet?
Yes, odds are the were liberals or democrats, but they were the lunatic fringe you dolt.
I personally know Republicans that think Clinton murdered people, that we didn't land on the moon, that Obama is a Muslim communist from Kenya but do I project that mentality onto every single Republican?
I wasn't lumping all liberals into this group just making the point that both sides have radicals because a lot of ignorant people on this site don't realize that from their college campuses.
You offered nothing in this debate other than to attack me which you failed at miserably. Crawl back in your hole and continue to get brainwashed at your university
Well, I think you're an idiot. A flaming Nazi-Communist idiot who wants to take over America so that the mole-people have a place to call home and that souls can inhabit the caves of the former Mole country rather than being thrown into a volcano on another planet.
And I don't want to hear another word from your un-educated ass because I blindly lump all those without a college degree into a pile of people who are blithering idiots, unwilling to learn anything beyond 2+2=shoe.
DO YOU REALIZE THAT'S WHAT YOU FUGGIN' SOUND LIKE?
So weird how two guys named Dave in the music industry can be such polar opposites... Mustaine needs to go away for a while I reckon, he's just embarrassing himself.
Or spit in some random person's shoe and tell them they are the result of a incest sexual encounter between cousins. I guess it takes one to know one. ****ing retard.
DAVE MUSTAINE, SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.
I hope they play an Australian gig so I can throw my shoes at him, I'll wear ****ing spiked boots and all sorts of shit.
I remember when i used to like Dave, back around 2007, when he kept his mouth shut, spoke only about Megadeth and guitars and was just that nice person for a bit of time.
Now he's just a knob, I like Megadeth, but Dave is just a knob.
The Aurora shooting was staged?
Well Christian Bale was kind enough to visit some of the victims. Maybe he can do us one more favour, don his Batman garb and drop-kick Dave out a window before he says anything else stupid?
And to think Pussy Riot's problems started for this:
In the song, the group asked the “Theotokos” (Mother of God, i.e. the Virgin Mary) (rus. Богороди
94;а Bogoroditsa) to "drive Putin away". The song also describes the Russian Patriarch Kirill I of Moscow as someone who believes in Putin rather than in God.
American presidents sure have taen a lot of crap, deserved or not, and their critics are still free to chase kids off their lawn for not wearing foil hats. Yeah, Nazi America is sure going to hell, isn't it Dave Mustaine.
Saying that Obama isn't the best president is fair enough, but claiming that he paid that guy to shoot people in that Batman screening, and to shoot people in the Sikh temple? Has he got the IQ of an 8 year old?
You're right, but don't insult the 8 yr old's out there. He has of the IQ of a pile of dog shit.
I hope Mustaine somehow comes across to reading these (trolling or not to get attention) and comes to terms that people all around the world really hate him.
Ppl thought Hitler was a nice guy too ya kno. America spreads a lot of propaganda, Like the gay rights stuff and emasculating men- shit like tht, i kno for kno it seems dumb and tht its fun to make fun Of Dave, but you never kno what goes on in the head of a world leader...
People don't say that Mustaine is a crackhead... Do your own research, people around the world feel like the whole USA government is behind a conspiracy to overtake the world... And only famous people (celebrities) know more than we (normal citizens) he might not be able to say the whole truth or what he says is outrageous but try to think outside the box and give it a look from a different perspective.
There's looking at it from a different perspective and there's just being an irrational idiot. Dave has been talking shit since he released his book (which was good up till he started talking about 'god' and his politics. The book sold well and he probably got the idea that everyone wants to hear his opinion.
So by your logic, a USA conspiracy to take over the world involves the government paying people with a few mental problems to go out and shoot small numbers of people? That makes perfect sense.
Does it really? Cause I'm a Christian, and think Obama seems like a perfectly nice guy, regardless of my opinions on his politics. It IS possible to disagree with someone without calling them a mass-murderer or a Nazi.
Next week: "Our government needs religion in it. It should be illegal to be anything but Christian. I mean, I care for these people, and I don't want them all to go to Hell." Or "Barack Obama is a Muslim. Come on, people, isn't it obvious? He wants to spread Muslim ideals throughout America and take away our rights!"
No, you know what? I will not respect anyone who says horrible, violent tragedies were staged by anyone. What a massive disrespect to everyone who lost family and friends. The Loose Change people sucked back in 2005, and Dave Mustaine sucks now.
I didn't say that. Obviously they have, but these shootings? I don't respect anyone who says they were staged by the President (who, by the way, has made NO legislation whatsoever regarding firearms).
He has not made a legislation "yet". They key word is yet. These shootings etc are becoming more common place, and I think it's a bit more than a coincidence that everybody is going mental and shooting up public places.
What Mustaine is saying may not be the entire truth, but it does make you question how a broke medical student who was seen as one of the nicest guys by his family and peers can afford around 30 grand worth of weapons/body armour/bomb making supplies and then shoots up a cinema.
I hear what you're saying, but I really don't think we should be glazing over violent tragedies and accepting the official narrative out of respect for the victims. Questioning doesn't disrespect anyone. If there in fact IS a coverup, then we owe it to the victims to seek out the truth.
Having said that, I don't believe the recent shootings had any government involvement, though there are questions about where that guy got all that weaponry and skillset.
Herp-a-derp Yeah people should be allowed to make baseless, defaming claims on people and get away with it because of freedom of speech. That isn't how it works. Slander is a thing that exists.
I'm not defending either over the other, I'm saying that both exist for very specific reasons. Imagine an ex-girlfriend lied and said you were into child porn, even did an interview for a local paper. The police have no evidence to prove it but word gets out in the neighbourhood. People start treating you like shit, making your life a misery. In the end you get fired because of these rumours. There are restrictions that have been in place for a LONG time that mean people can be prosecuted for lying about other people for their own gain. We need this sort of thing. It's not fricking rocket science.
Why? Why should beliefs be respected if they are baseless and stupid? Fact should be respected. Good arguments should be respected. Senseless comments? Nope! Shouldn't be respected!
It saddens me to see what's happening with Dave, this isn't the guy that inspired me to pick up the guitar and to follow my dreams, to open my eyes and look at people and situations from a different angle.. and he did drugs then! So many fans are turning against him, just because he's talking gibberish.. I hope he gets his shit straight soon
hmmm. is Dave insane or are you people just INCREDIBLY stupid? I choose the latter. To the idiots saying he's EVER kept his mouth shut: ...wtf are you talking about? Obviously you've never listened to a Megadeth song once in your pointless life, jackasses. Also, obviously you've never payed attention to politics either! I'm not saying Obombya is the main man responsible for these atrocities...but I AM saying that he is doing nothing to stop the scumbag gov't organizations that ARE RESPONSIBLE! Get your ****ing heads out of your asses sheep
uh, actually YEAH, dumb****. Learn a little history. Allowing an oppressive government to remove our means of protecting ourselves allows them to either completely enslave or kill us.
I probably know more history than you. Besides, learn some actuality. Take the Netherlands (or any western European country for that matter). Hardly anyone has a gun here. Do you see these shootings happening here? Do you see an oppressive government here?
If the answer to the last two questions is "yes", get yourself checked out. Otherwise, you may still want to do that.
Given the fact that I never have & probably never will see that place with my own two eyes, I can honestly say no. I'm also sure you are lying out of your ass too because every species of life on this planet has "demented" beings that rape/kill/torture others, (guns protect us from these kinds of people too, facepalm) so I know for a fact that it can't be very different over there. I don't know anything about "your government" and I don't have to either...I DON'T LIVE THERE. I do know that this one is VERY oppressive though. You are probably either a FED, a member of some secret society, or BOTH so how about this...find a very sturdy rope, tie it to a high & thick tree branch, and HANG your self. You are a waste of life
You honestly think allowing each and every citizen access to a gun is the best way of protecting yourself? Adding a nifty little comment advising someone to hang themselves just threw away what minute logical sense your comment made.
The government isn't oppressive. Even if your government is oppressive and the whole of the US population disagrees with it.. What are you gonna do? Run into government buildings guns-a-blazing? Don't think so. Owning guns to protect you from your government is the greatest bullshit I've ever heard.
Governments are chosen by people, for people. There are always people who agree with and disagree with governments. Saying "we have guns" isn't going to change anything, as the people who agree with the government also have guns. The only thing guns accomplish in this scenario is making sure that both sides kill each-other a whole lot quicker.
Banning guns in it's self does not mean oppressive government no but it does make it that in the future if there were to implement anything the american public might object violently to that they will no longer have any way of objecting. All im saying really is that it's a slippery slope. I live in the UK, here we have far more strict gun laws and yes with that there is less gun crime but what has happened is that we have a lot more knife crime and the like. So yes we don't see shootings like Aurora or Wisconsin but you got to wonder why do these happen in the first place? and there is a lot of reasons to at least be open the possibility of it being rigged. This is a good example. http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_il... ixzz23Ne1tgJa
Well you're obviously insane and have no way of seeing anything around you in reality. Because every country that has gun bans is led by a tyrannical murdering Nazi-esque govenment right? Let me just look outside my British window...nope, not 1984 here.
Regardless of your "defend ourselves against the government" bollocks, I'd like to see your pistol do jack against a tank. or a nuke. or a predator drone. or whatever else the government has at its disposal.
The American Constitution was created to be revised later on. Obviously certain amendments that were relevant when it was created won't be in 2012. A good example of an irrelevant amendment in today's western society is the 2nd amendment. It was created during a time where small town militias were actually necessary and the US wasn't the last remaining super power with trillions of dollars spent in defense. Should guns be banned? Probably not, but stricter rules are a no-brainer, but then again this is the American political system we are talking about.
"Obviously certain amendments that were relevant when it was created won't be in 2012"
Well, that's the thing. Look at the term "Amendments." They are by nature changes to the Constitution. Since it was originally adopted, the US Constitution has been altered 27 times (hence 27 Amendments).
Just a minor factual error in your post I wanted to point out.
Right, I know I've entered mid shit-storm so may have to leave this comment again on another Dave Mustaine article (as this surely won't be the last), but here's my response to everything this guy has ever said:
People on the internet seem to think that a right to free speech is an obligation to speak. If you weigh in with controversial, outspoken opinions on a subject you don't know much about, more often than not you will make a fool of yourself. If Mustaine stood up at a G8 summit and voiced opinions such as these he would be told to sit down and shut up. This wouldn't be stifling his freedom of speech, it would be putting him in his place.
Everything this guy says seems to be completely baseless, defames other people and insults often entire nations, impoverished people... I could go on. The sooner he stops getting attention for it the better.
I agree'd with your start there but using the word baseless seems ill informed. There is a lot of information out there to add weight to a lot of what he and many others have said. Regarding the 'Batman shootings' there have been a lot of discredited witness reports of multiple shooters, questions as to how he got hold of $8000 worth of riot gear and guns unanswered or even ignored. but it comes down to what point do you believe what you hear, im not saying you should believe dave mustaine but look to why he would feel strongly enough to say these things knowing how much stick he would get for it. if you don't believe government id capable of such things have a read of this.- http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_il... ixzz23Ne1tgJa
I was thinking more of the "Obama's birth certificate is fake" and "African women should put a plug in it" comments. There's a conspiracy theory for EVERYTHING in the U.S. I'm not saying just close your eyes and accept everything you're told, but Dave seems to make a lot of leaps, like all conspiracy theorists do, to completely illogical conclusions just because one aspect is a bit fishy.
I agree that it's very easy to get lost int he leaps made by dave and others, as often they don't explain the details to how the've made them. Events that on the face of it seem perfectly probable coincidences.I think for you to see how the events connect you have to be switched on to why it would be relevant for you to connect them. I would say this commonly happens when a very small and relatively inconsequential officially reported incident is proven to be falsified. I mean at this point in society we are no strangers to the possibility of corruption inside company's for example. their end goal is easy to relate to, they want to make more money. So why are we so uneasy with the talk of our governments being corrupt? For one it's a scary thought, it's someone telling us that we have been fools to believe our governments, it's being told that we are wrong. This is not easy for anyone to take, but if people are able to look past this and search they will find that information that connects the dots and leaps. Im not directing any of this at you btw, im just posing these views to get people thinking about them
That's all conspiracy theorists ever do. They never provide the evidence, they just say it's "out there".
If actual evidence presented itself that the President of the United States was behind mass shooting sprees you can bet your ass everybody would know.
We live in the age of the internet, information travels instantly around the world. Unfortunately it also gives crazy people an outlet to divulge their wild ideas of how they think the world runs.
The majority of the information we receive day to day even on the internet is made very easy to obtain, often highlighted by different websites or tv stations, etc. The problem with the information you are seeking is that it is not highlighted in this way for the most part. Often it requires much effort on your part to obtain. Not only do people not want to do this, they often have no reason to look for it. So when dave comes out with lines like of the ones above it sounds very unfamiliar and outlandish to perceive. to say you want prof you have to ask your self the bigger question, what does it take for you to hear or see something and decide that it is true? There really is a lot of information out there but it is up to you to go find it. Here is a news story on government illegal gun sales, lots of links in it and he explains why he has come to this conclusion. problem is you have to spend time reading it. crimehttp://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_il... html#ixzz23Ne1tgJa
I wont even touch the Dave comment but for crying out loud people, why does everyone say: "You are a musician, leave politics to politicians"?
You might not like politics but it does affect your life whether you like it or not and you should not leave politics to politicians.
Its because his not making intelligent comments regarding politics. His just talking s@&* out of his mouth, not once or twice but constantly and considering his in the public eye and we sadly live in an age where people tend to not think for themselves or bother to get facts/understand situations Daves uninformed, uneducated and down right inflammatory comments will influence some people (granted not many) and it only takes 1 idiot who "agrees" with Dave with a gun to kill a 100 of us who find his political rants stupid.
For one thing, my comment was a general one as I see that criticism quite frequently regardless of who it may be.
And I doubt there has been any age where people think for themselves and the part about someone getting a gun over this is just baseless rhetoric.
Makes as much sense as the "Bush orchestrated 9/11" theories. Conspiracy theories are asinine. That being said, Obama is doing enough actual damage to the country, you don't need to make up conspiracy theories to prove it.
Your ****ing retarded, america's energy stores are very low and attacking the middle east would give you a change to get some of the dough. Not to mention americas frienship with israel. If it makes as much sense as the bush orchestrated 9/11 stuff it does make sense. And it dosent, but at least not yet since no one listens to supposed dumbasses.
They were very odd. From what one would expect of a typical nutjob going crazy, it seemed very well planned. If you went nuts and planned to kill a bunch of people (an act which would 99% of the time see you killed in the process), would you really take the days and days of effort to booby trap your apartment?
I find it quite funny though that every time something happens in America there's always a conspiracy theory to go with it. Nobody claimed that Raoul Moat or Derrick Bird were government plants when they went on rampages in the UK. We commended those that managed to stop them and mourned the loss of those who paid with their lives at the hands of those nutters.
I remember thinking a few years ago that converting to Christianity was going to mellow Dave out - instead it somehow intensified his superiority complex even further, which is really saying something. Seriously, f--- this guy.
I can't believe some of the stuff that Mustaine has been spouting over the last couple of years. When I first started listening to Megadeth when I was about 14, I could align myself with a lot of the topics Mustaine challenged in what seemed like a considered set of lyrics, whether they were left or right leaning. Nowadays, the word vomit that comes from his mouth is in a lot of cases is contrary to his old lyrics (surely he realises that?) and he is SO incredibly right wing and conservative that I struggle to find anything that I can agree with him on. I almost feel kind of embarrassed about owning his records - he was pioneer in challenging conservative the view back in the day - and more importantly to 14 year old me, he was one of my biggest heroes. The guy should have quit while he had some bloody credibility.
Whether he has a point or not, is irrelevant. He speaks his mind without forcing his opinion on others. Unlike this biased article that's trying to make him look stupid.
I could believe it. I dont think celebrities should be getting into politics myself. It turns me off of what they're doing.
However, if any of you younger more liberal folks look into what is actually happening, you will see its not a far fetched idea. Look up UN Agenda 21, look up what the UN global gun ban means to us as a 'free' nation. Look up what the real controllers of the world have in store for you, before you post your remarks about him.
Does he still play guitar? Or does he just voice his opinions about politics and homosexuals now? Kindas wird how he seems to spend all his time thinking about weapons, gays and a black man... makes me wonder...
whats happened to our whole "Freedom of Speech" right, huh?
he can say what he wants to!
Its the same thing as bashing all of you for disagreeing with him, we all have our opinions, now just EVERYONE shut up and stop being whiny ten year olds.
Good gosh, its like being back in elementary school where everyone tattles on each other for the silliest reasons.
Why the fruitcakes are you bashing us for bashing him?
What happened to our whole "Freedom of Speech" right, huh?
We can respond however we want to.
It's the same thing as you bashing us for bashing him. We all have our opinions, and telling us to shut up because you don't agree with ours while hiding under the first amendment is like being back in elementary school where everyone makes excuses to get other people to stop saying things they don't like.
well then we are all in an endless loop of hell arent we?
because you just bashed me for bashing you for bashing him. so ultimately everyone is the bad guy
The original people to say it was staged by the government suggested it was staged by the FBI, since the shooter had FBI swat team equipment in his car that he would have been hard pressed to steal. They also point to the FBI stating about half a decade ago that they did stage a shooting, in so much that they armed and drove the individuals to the location. But the fear about gun legislation originally stemmed from fear of an international gun control treaty passing in the UN, which was never voted on because the US said they weren't ready to vote on the intended date of July 27th. Dave probably knows nothing about either of these things and only heard distorted fragments from some raving conservative...
"Hi, my name is Dave Mustaine, and my nobody cares about my music anymore, so I have to say a bunch of outlandish crap to keep myself relevant somehow."
Maybe the stupidest comment to come out of his yap to date. Is he upping the ante to have a full on guns & guitars cage match with Nugent... winner takes over as NRA mouthpiece?
Freedom of speech... sure. Freedom to make unsubstantiated and insensitive (to the victims, not Obama) claims... well, expect people to rip him mercilessly.
Without knowing any of the specifics to Holmes' financial situation, there's numerous ways a college student could acquire the money for that arsenal. Excess funds from financial aid. Selling things he he had that may have been worth money. Credit cards/loans. Did he purchase everything at once? Or did he have a fascination with these weapons and acquire them over time? II understand that people would love for there to be an all-encompassing conspiracy behind everything because it really would make life more interesting... But sometimes you gotta look at both sides equally and form an educated opinion based on the information, evidence, and common sense of each angle. Something mustaine apparently doesn't understand.
I think you missed the ,(comma) im afraid. He is on about two different events. The 'fast and furious' gun sales to Mexican drug cartels. The Aurora 'batman shooting' in the cinema. There is actually a lot of information that his theory is based on. The 'fast and furious' event has be admitted by the government http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_il... ixzz23Ne1tgJa
Why is that when he says something everyone flips out on him when it's something they don't want to hear? It's like UG is full of nothing but left wing liberals who get butthurt because he talks bad about obama. I don't know if the gun staging is true but it wouldn't suprise me. And it's like no one wants to do their homework so they just call dave an idiot because most people now a days are blind sheep that just follow everything the government says and does. "No, obama's an american. He's not from kenya. He's christian, he's not muslim." My faith in the UG community has depleted after seeing idiots post ignorance and bashing Dave. C'mon people do your homework! Our president is the next hitler
If our president was the next Hitler you wouldn't even have been able to post that without getting shot. There would be be no Tea Party, no right wing commentators, no elections at all. And if you're going to tell me "He's just waiting for the right moment"....The right moment would have been when he controlled the house and the senate. He wouldn't consider the right moment to be right before an election.
Dave, you're a great musician,a great frontman and a metal icon. When I saw you at download 2012 it was one of the greatest shows of my life. But, I tolerate you being a right wing nut (which is totally contradictory to your old self before you went all christ-y and gave up the drugs) because I love your music that much. This is too much. Shut up, smell the coffee, just play your guitar and sing Peace Sells remembering why you wrote it.
Seeing as Mega-Dave's comments are so self-evidently stupid as to make any comments to that effect redundant, I offer the following musical observation:
Im incapable of understanding how Chris and Shawn, or even David Ellefson, some of the nicest people in metal ever, can stand being in the same band with this paranoid freak. I think Dave Mustaine needs some therapy, I know it's not the first time I say this, but this time I really mean it.
It seems Dave has finally fallen off the edge. Today marks the day that a hero has fallen. It's funny, I was talking about this with some friends a few days ago, and we were all bummed out that Dave has become so . . . different.
I have nothing against Christianity, but I think it's pretty evident that Dave has become more radical in his political views *after* he became a born-again Christian.
I have to wonder if, instead of the peaceful sermons I imagined they had about appreciating your fellow man (I'm a Catholic, so I figure there's not much difference? I honestly don't know), they rant over and over about how racial and other minorities will bring forth the Antichrist.
Dave, I'm sorry to say that you are becoming more and more like Bill O Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.
I've loved Megadeth for over a decade. I must say though, after United Abominations they've turned into shit. Plus, you got Dave running his mouth like an insane person. They used to be my favorite band, but oh how the mighty have fallen. After United I will never buy another album, shirt or whatever with their wretched stamp on it.
So the Fast and Furious scandal blows up and almost cost people in the administration their jobs, so is it really just a coincidence that gun control is trying to be passed by the UN to overwrite the 2nd amendment and now all of these domestic terrorists and senseless shootings start to pop up. Look back at your history folks of how events trigger political ratifications. Dave very well could be right and you can't accept the possible truth. Some of the comments are from fans who have done little to no research on the subject.
People have a hard time accepting that
thier government could be corrupted by outsider influence but the predidents salary is very low yet his earnings are high. So this guy probably doesn't slide a punch card at mcdonalds between signing bills and giving speaches on promises that he doesn't intent to keep. I've seen the video show obamas birth certificate not have the official stamp... Who cares. The fact is that most people refuse to accept the truth when presented with it yet they do nothing to find hard facts that either support or destroy either side of the arguement they just act ignorant and say "oh, Dave Mustaine is a tool and so there's no way that he could be right." Dave might argue stupid points. True or not but no one really bothers to dig deep for or against what they are arguing. 80% of America has no idea why we went to war with Iraq or afganistan. Military included. 19% of that 20% are wrong. Iraq was to steal oil for the bush family to sell and weapons to fight a war. No wmd's were found and they simply changed the subject to war crimes from the 80's? Bs. Bin Laden was reported by FBI and Cia to have had nothing to do with 911. Look at raw facts. Taliban got pissed because of American influence and decided to burn the opium. They go from producing approximately 80% of the worlds opium to like 10%. We declare war and now they're back up to like 70%. American troops are guarding the same fields I spoke of and this is costing you money. Knowing that you're getting ****ed in the butt by criminals wasting your money that you cant object to them taking away (taxes) I was in denial too but my eyes are open now.
I'll say what i always say on these articles. Been saying it for years. Fuck Dave Mustaine, waste of ****ing flesh. Sure he's a good musician, but that does not excuse him. Fucking fanboys - your idol is a washed up loser with a psychosis. Theres not enough curses in the world.
If our president was the next Hitler you wouldn't even have been able to post that without getting shot. There would be be no Tea Party, no right wing commentators, no elections at all. And if you're going to tell me "He's just waiting for the right moment"....The right moment would have been when he controlled the house and the senate. He wouldn't consider the right moment to be right before an election.
We have been taught better than to accept someone like Hitler to rule us, we have been taught to police ourselves. taught that if anyone comes out with anything as outlandish as what dave is on about that he is of course crazy. what if i suggested that it comes down to who ever is supported by the most money that wins elections? and that there are 5-6 major banks in our world that have this money. So what saying here is no i don't see there to be any elections, none that make any difference to who decides what happens in our society
You know, it is very common for former cokeheads, like Mr. Mustaine here, to develop either cognitive deficiencies or some other form of mental disability. Cocaine is a helluva drug
I have lost all respect for this man, it has even got to the point that I can't listen to Megadeth anymore since I hear Dave's voice a begin to go into a blind rage.
I can't think of anything suitably scathing to say that hasn't been said. STFU and play. You can't sing and you show us every time you open your mouth that you are no longer rational. Stop being an ass.
Actually, I was thinking the same. Yeah, it might be a long shot and far from the truth, but still, think about it. I think it's one of his less controversial statements, not because I agree with him, but because it's the first time you actually can find logic in his statement.
Assuming Mustaine is correct, exactly when is Obama planning on taking our guns away? "My president is trying to pass a gun ban." Exactly what legislation has Obama introduced during his presidency that supports this statement? It's obvious that when Mustaine was "born again", he was born without any semblance of common sense or critical thinking. He is turning into a cartoon character deserving of nothing but our pity and/or ridicule...
I'm quite shocked at the amount of sheep on here who think he's wrong. Your government has lied to you time and time again in the past to get their own way, whats stopping them from being behind all these shootings?
there are so many inconsistencies, you just need to look.
Bloody hell guys, he can say what he wants... it may not be right but what's the big deal? Just look how many religious people there are, it's just a belief, it's all wrong though isn't it. Dave may be ****ed up by all the drugs he's taken but remember, he's a musician, not a politician or any thing else.
Wonder if Dave realized the Singapore crowd most likely do not own guns. Getting a personal gun permit isn't easy there... sooo he's preaching to the wrong people.
I'm ashamed to be a fan of Megadeth seeing all this crap that Mustaine is saying and have lost all respect for him. If there is some secret Nazi regime being run by Obama (which is about as likely as Iran going Jewish) then I hope they lock him up somewhere nice and dark so we don't have to listen to him anymore. This is insulting to the families of the victims, and I am not sure of the freedom of speech laws in America but I would imagine calling the president a murder conspirator isn't going to go down very well at all with authorities.
I'm trying really hard to respect him solely as a musician but he's making it more difficult with the constant bullshit coming out of his mouth. I'd be interested to hear what Ellefson, Broderick, and Drover have to say on all of this....
Yeah... like Weed.
Weed is illegal.
Has it stopped anyone from smoking it?
Phuk No!!!
Well, If we made Weed legal could we regulate it Control it and keep it out of the hands of under aged users and crazy people.
Wrong!!!
AK 47s are regulated there are laws that govern Shit like this, Do they work.....
Phuk NO!!!
That only works on law abiding citizens...
Dissarming Law abiding Citizins.
Great Idea....
Pass a Law that makes pot smoking manditory for crazys.
Problem Solved.
Disarming law abiding citizens. You mean like the kid in Colorado that LEGALLY bought his guns, ammo, and body armor. Or the guy in Wisconsin that LEGALLY bought his guns and ammo. Or the guy who shot Gabrielle Giffords who LEGALLY obtained his gun and ammo? How about making it illegal to sell guns at a gun show? You can go to a gun show in AZ and buy whatever you want, as much as you want. No background check, nothing. That is what President Obama is trying to stop. You can own your guns, but it has to be regulated better.
Mustaine and Nugent need to start a tour called "two dumb ass old guys that should shut the f*ck up tour." One stop..Antartica. Maybe they can find someone to listen to their garbage there.
Seriously love the guys music and in the 90's and even under the 2nd bush he had some good things to say. But at this point he needs to just shut the **** up. Making himself look like an ass. Though the country is pretty ****ed up and stranger things have happened, I HIGHLY doubt that Obama is staging shootings.
exactly my thoughts. to think i used to accept the thought of him running for president, but this is ludicrous. he needs to shut the **** up, and i'm saying this because he needs to, and i'm honestly a HUGE ****ing fan of his and his band.
You honestly think that Obama who is leading ahead of Romney in the polls and has almost a guarantee win would create one of the biggest cover-ups in human history?
Don't take the "Nazi America" analogy literally. We have a different country so obviously things will work differently here. If we were mirroring the Nazis then we would only have right wing commentators and the left wing would be the ones that were imprisoned or executed.
The "Nazi America" analogy is actually quite accurate in describing modern American politics. The government is smart enough to know that they would never be able to get away with a single man having total power over the country, and other politicians wouldn't let that happen anyway because they all want some form of power. So instead they create the illusion that the two major political parties represent different ideologies when in reality they are almost exactly the same.
This single ideology that rules our government has absolute control over mainstream media and it is easy for them to keep the masses ignorant because most people in America don't care about politics or don't have time to fully analyze our situation. This single, authoritarian ideology is allowed to expand without competition and it continues to get more oppressive with every president, regardless of the party he belongs to.
In shorter terms: the government is smart enough to know that the people will not allow them to achieve totalitarian rule in a short period of time so they are doing it gradually. Unlike the majority of ignorant Americans, politicians are educated in history and know how to learn from it.
This...this has to be some of the dumbest quotes I've seen in a long time.
Also, did anyone read where he says his fans look up to hima as a father figure? Yeah, helluva father figure for you.
All you clowns that don't think governments stage "incidents" to gain political leverage have no idea about the history of the world. It goes back to Ancient Rome and Greece.
The USS Maine....Gulf on Tonkin...Germany and the fire at Reichstag. Nobody knows (yet) all that went on at the recent shooting, but to blatantly disregard it is childish.
You reactionary, childish little men make me puke.
And if Mustaine had said something along the lines of "There's a historical precedent for this kind of incident, so I'm just throwing it out there as a suggestion, but I have no evidence to back this up yet", instead of making a bold, baseless assertion, people might be inclined to treat what he says with some measure of credulity.
Ok, here we go
1. This website has sensationalized Mustaine so much it hurts
2. Every article of these sorts from UG gets more opinionated each time. Yes, I know most people here think he's crazy, but you don't have to show that bias in the article just to start shit.
3. Mustaine can say all he wants and I'm fine with that but please don't bring it into concerts.
Saying this is just as crazy as saying Bush caused 9/11, I dislike most politicians but I find conspiracy theories insults the memories of the victims.
Mustaine, please keep these ideas out of your concerts, I am now caring less on stupid things that musicians say, UG please post real news...
Actually saying that Bush caused 9/11 is a possibility. Assuming that the terrorists who were responsible for 9/11 were really Muslims, it is safe to say that America's heavy involvement in the Middle East is what caused the terrorists to commit such acts. They saw it as retaliation for what we have done to them, which is quite understandable. If Bush never got us involved in the Gulf War and continued policies of intrusion in the Middle East, the terrorists would have no reason to retaliate and 9/11 would have never happened.
I'm not saying its definite, since we will never really know the causes of 9/11. But it is very feasible.
No it's not a possibility...considering middle easterners have been doing terrorist acts long before either Bush was in charge...such as the Munich Olympics incident in '72, or the marine barracks bombing in Lebanon in '83. Both of which were before Bush and before America's heavy middle eastern involvement. So that's not an excuse...when you're #1, you have the target on your back regardless, so that's their rationale, not 'retaliation'.
WTF happened to this man between United Abominations and now? The lyrics were so well-written, and REAL, now all he's got is Obama's staging murders, and other miscellaneous bullshit that never happened.
In the past few months Mustaine has publicly conveyed why Metallica booted him the **** out at the most inopportune time and payed for his trip back to the other side of the country just to get the **** RID of him. I can easily see James, "Kirk sucks compared to you but at least he'll STFU!!!!!"
You know there exists a theory that for every person there exists an opposite? Well I think Mustaine is the opposite of Blythe.
Think about it, One is a smart and caring guy the other is a hypocritical idiot
And guns have to do with shoes, how? And shootings like that have been happening in this country even before he was president. It's because a lot people are ****ing stupid.
UG should stop writing about Mustaine and Nugent. They're never doing anything new, they just talk crap. And people who spew crap should be ignored. When they say something of any signifacance, sure write it up. But when it's just Obama is a nazi etc.. it's a waste of time.
The same applies to the old "Axl said this" articles.
I read about this on CNN. President Obama has made no attempt to change gun laws
to any extent. No legislation, no presidential decree, nothing. Dave Mustaine has become more delusional on the drug called religion than any other drug he has ever taken. If anyone still cares to go see this guy or buy any of his records I'd be surprised. He makes these wild accusations then wonders why people give him $hit for it. You had a nice career Dave. Maybe you can still see it in your rearview mirror.
I didn't realize that the UN was a governing body of the United States.
Not to mention the treaty only dealt with the trade of weapons between sovereign states. As there is not a single American citizen that qualifies as a sovereign state (despite many apparently trying to become the size of one, judging by obesity rates), the treaty would not have affected your ability to buy a gun.
Unless you're one of those "UN black helicopters are coming to take my guns and jobs" people. In which case, good luck with all that.
Let's face it, it's not any more preposterous or ridiculous than what some of our "educated leaders" are currently saying....the latest being vice-president Biden saying if Romney wins then he'll "put Y'ALL back in chains"....seriously?!! Now THAT is what we should be concerned about, looney-toon politician sayings should take priority over looney-toon musician sayings.
Sane people don't kill other people. And that was the Bush administration who began the Mexican gun supplying thing, which makes it funny to see all those Republicans bashing Obama over it now. Apparently it was alright for George to sell them guns though.
Grover Norquist, a GOP congressman who made House republicans sign that whacky anti tax pledge and an NRA board member, openly admitted Obama probably has little intention of messing with Gun Laws even in a second term. If anything he try to tackle Marijuanna and itd be great to see small government GOP buttholes trying to spin that into Obama being a burnout who we need to protect the children from.
The scary thing in this whole affair is not Mustaine's declaration... but the fact some people actually BELIEVE in what he said. I can't even begin to comprehend such an extreme level of sheer stupidity.
well one thing tht america has in common with nazis is the merciless killing.. seriously look up how many countries america has invaded ever since end of 2nd world war all on the basis of non proven stuff just to get their hands on raw material and resources.. ps iam a non-american so i dont really give a shit bout anything americans have to say..
forgot what i was gonna say. i'll dumb it down: shut up Dave. shut the **** up. i'm your biggest fan though, you're the reason i have a Jackson King V.
To the few American commenters who are saying they are living with an oppressive government/ country, maybe you need to go live in Syria/ Iran/ Russia/ any middle eastern bloc country. Then come back and compare it, I guarantee you wouldn't get away with half the nonsense you're spewing on here.
In all seriousness it's pretty offensive to the families of the victims of these crimes to even suggest that the governments elected to protect the people set up these disgusting crimes. Dave should be pretty ashamed of himself right now, along with those trolls agreeing with him.
And FYI freedom of speech only goes so far before it becomes slander.
wow! i was just saying how i think all these shootings have something to do with furthering gun control and then i come here and daves sayin stuff bout it hahaha. altho i believe in conspiracy theories, globalists/power elite takeover of the world, and our government totally betraying us all the time, i dont believe obama staged all these shootings. and its not just to shootings theres been a string of public shootings for the last 2 weeks! i think the power elite is staging them in order to get the people to finally vote for gun control to further the goal of the globalization of the world! but im not as extreme as dave, he seems to just be attacking obama, im not attacking him. im attacking the bigger picture, those corrupt bastards who will screw us over in the end. obama, bush, presidents of the usa are all just pawns in the game.
Oh no. Here comes the rightwing backlash against Mustane for criticizing the president on foreign soil.
I mean, that's the reason rightwingers gave for boycotting/badmouthing The Dixie Chicks.
I assume they'll stick to their self-setup rules in this case.
No wonder Dave was quoted a few weeks ago saying that if he spoke his mind it would alienate many of his fans. His nutcase opinions would alienate anybody except Ted Nugent.
People have to realize that America was founded on the ideals of freedom of speech, and whether or not you agree with what Dave Mustaine said, he should be allowed to say it, because that's what freedom is all about...
He has not made a very good album since United Abominations . I suggest instead of ranting, he should use what he has to create and write an album with his "vision" of what is going on in this country.
You all call him crazy but it's really not as crazy as it sounds. Ever heard of "false flags"? They're real and have happened before. Using these shootings as false flags isn't as crazy as you all think. I think Mustaine is aware a lot more than you all think he is.
Also, if anyone is curious why he's saying this stuff, it's because he's an Alex Jones/inforwars.com supporter.
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
~George Washington
you might want to do at least some cursory research before posting a completely made up quote (and a poorly phrased one as well) and attributing it to a founding father.. Heres the original quote ( notice how it has a completely different meaning from the one you posted.)
"A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies."
Also, some people think we can look back at a document, hundreds of years old, and see what still remains relevant and what does not, which is why the constitution allows for amendments, so that it can evolve and change as society itself changes. There's no logical reason we have to look at everything in the document as carved in stone, and I believe it is dangerous to do so.
I completely disagree with pretty much everything that dave says, and was disgusted by the whole clip. But then he just ripped into that holy wars intro riff and it was just ****ing badass. But ya, he is the epitome of a mindless obama basher. Very akin to Ted Nugent and Donald Trump.
Dave says people are murdered so Obama can push gun control (which is ridiculous) and is bashed for it (rightfully) but people say Bush conspired to killed people on 9/11 to cause war and sent people to die for oil... and they are not considered ridiculous.
How many of you who completely dismiss what Dave says as lies actually researched what he's talking about? Could all you people really be that naive? I'm not defending Mr. Mustaine but things like this do happen whether we want to believe it or not. There is a saying, "Make the lie simple, make it big, say it over and over, and eventually people will believe it." Any guesses as to who uttered that gem? ....Adolf Hitler.
Now, that being said, just humor me for a bit, what If what Dave said is true? Just consider the parallels between Nazi Germany and the way America is headed...
Dave has huge balls for being so outspoken about tender topics like this one. He knows full well that most people(as its apparent here)not only won't believe him but will actually call him crazy.
Keep in mind, i'm no doomsday prepper or anything of the sort, i just have an open mind and do my own research and come to my own conclusions. I encourage everyone to do the same and if after exhaustive efforts to disprove Dave's comments, you still disagree then so be it. But i have a feeling you won't.
i dont think this is nonsense. i think its a valid concern. not to say its true or false.. you just do have to wonder. we cant let them take our guns...
How is it that he was saner when he was smacked out of his skull? I gave up on Dave when he said that if the women in Africa didnt want to be raped anymore they should just move.....
As a metal fan I almost feel like it's a situation where I'm in a family and a idiotic member of my family just said something racist and I'm like "please don't believe we're all like that, he's just a dumbass!"
Munich and Lebanon are not in the United States though. So I don't understand your point. Think of it this way, Bush Sr. had the opportunity to end American involvement in the Middle East before anything bad happened. Instead he made things worse.
Ya know All you people that complain and b**h about what dave mustaine says are just childish. Its like you people cant accept OTHERS OPINIONS. Heck when if he were to see or hear any of your guys opinions Im positive he would not go on and complain about how stupid you are and such. SO Jeese let him be.
dave may have said some retarded things but all you sheep should really start to pay attention. Fast and Furious is a very real thing. I believe the aurora shooting could have been staged to push gun control on us.
Let this be a lesson kids. Serious amounts of drugs lead to extreme amounts of paranoia. Dave may have been sober for a long time now but the damage was already done.
Okey... I know you lot like bashing Dave. And I admit, as much as I respect this guy as musician and individual, he has made some really stupid comments. But still, many of this has its point, though when it comes to those things, it'd be good if there were editor between Dave and media, to make his statements more politically correct. It's clear that he's a fan of Alex Jones, which adds to those comments. But there really is point in what he is saying. This comment has no background to even try to make it legit, but I wouldn't be so surprised if it was true. Most of you think that 9/11 was terrorist attack, but there's so much BS around that official report. Inside job-I think yes. And it's even bigger and worse than this massacre. I'm not a big fan of Alex Jones and Infowars, but they do reveal some serious stuff too. Downvote me as much as you like. But he is allowed to say openly what he thinks(even if it sounds like utter sh1t) as you are allowed to bash him. Freedom of speech anyone?
America staged the Kennedy murder so it is certainly capable of staging the recent massacres. Yes there are insane males with guns but there are also insane males within the military and other sections who wouldn't think twice about doing something like this to bring about a particular outcome.
Conditioned reality addicts dismiss anything they dislike the idea of as "conspiracy bullshit". If we existed in a world where people don't lie and murder then of course such dismissal of conspiracy would be valid. In this world however there is very good reason to be suspicious but the conditioned masses are so well conditioned they willingly serve the cause of the manipulative elite.
Mustaine, I've said this to a musician before and I will keep saying it as long as people make stupid accusations.
STICK TO YOUR MUSIC AND SHUT THE HELL UP.
he's only half right. obama didn't stage this obviously, but he will however utilize these shootings in trying to take away our right to bear arms and turn us into a socialist nation. as he's already doing with obamacare. steal from the struggling and give to the lazy. **** him.
hah. In an article on Grantland.com about Mustaine's ridiculous comments:
"Earlier this year, after Mustaine seemingly endorsed Rick Santorum for president in an interview with MusicRadar.com, The Village Voice's Michael Tedder compiled a list of Mustaine's past forays into conservative punditry; the one-world-government-loving pinkos at UltimateGuitar.com put together a similar rundown in April, although their list included a few not-strictly-speaking-political Mustaine-isms, like the time he suggested that starvation in Africa wouldn't be a problem if African women would just "put a plug in it" and stop having children."
A man who's worried about "his" country (so there are some nationalist feelings)says a black president who wants to ban guns is going to make it a Nazi America?
For the sake of my mind and in order to maintain respect for Megadeth' achievement as a band I will henceforth assume that Mustaine's latest utterings are a elaborate prank to keep the names in the game.
The Big problem with this idea is that Obama isnt trying to take away the guns. He hasnt put forward any anti-gun legislation and says he doesnt plan to...
And since when has Obama been known for telling the truth? It is an unfortunate possibility that Obama is only avoiding anti-gun legislation to get himself re-elected.
Certainly seems more honest than Bush ever was. I'm British so maybe I missed many of the intricate details but if I'm not very much mistaken, Bush came across as a nutcase hell bent on creating the idyllic right-wing state...which basically means going back to before the Enlightenment and limiting the rights of everyone except people like him (male, white, rich, Christian). Obama looks like he's doing a pretty good job by comparison.
Will Dave make up his mind... Is Obama a Socialist or Fascist? Someone should explain they're completely opposite sides of the political spectrum. For someone who is supposed to be clean now and educated, Dave sure sounds like an uneducated stoned redneck. Burn any Dixie Chick's records lately, Dave?
This is the problem with the enumeration of "inalienable rights" and the reason Madison opposed a list of rights.
The constitution was about the limits of the Feds powers and not about listing all the inalienable rights afforded to people.
In any event, look up "inalienable".
Part of the lyrics from "Liar" instantly comes to mind.
"Make up your stories, truth's so hard to say,
brain is numb and your tongue will surely dig your grave..."
Everybody with an IQ over 10 can understand that he's all nonsense propaganda, but what scares me is the amount of right-wing idiots out there who share his opinions and who may actually see him as a spokesman for them or, god forbid, an actual father figure. Fun thing is, Dave doesn't seem to realize that it's actually conservative hatemongers like himself who are ruining the country.
Also, I really hope Ellefson, Broderick and Drover are smart enough to leave the sinking ship of Megadeth soon enough. Dave is the kind of guy you don't want to be associated with when things like these happen.
Why the **** do you Americans care so much about keeping your goddamn firearms rights? Guns are just as much of a problem to your country as.. well, Dave Mustaine.
Just to elaborate (because I can't edit my post) I don't agree with this whole Jesse Ventura conspiracy case going on here, but even if this WAS (it's not) a grand scheme to slow down the sales and glorification of guns, why get all up in arms about it like it's Hitler part 2?
Try expressing rage for things that make sense, with actual hard evidence to back it up next time.
Of course nothing like this ever happened under any other President.
Everyone loved one another and had daffodils protruding from the barrels of their uzis.
Has anyone ever questioned the birthplace of any other US President in history?
As Ali G(Sascha Baron Cohen) might say, "Is it cos he is black"?
Actually this is a classic example of a mind controlled "conspiracy buffled" man. I give him credit for the great musician he is...as for the comment?...hmmmm...I don't agree with the shooting part..well he is entitled to voice his twisted opinion since he got hold of the mic that night(hah!)..but as you could see with what is happening right now in the U.S...it's a very easy thing to believed someone voice out his brainwashed mind. This a very delicious "lie" sandwich to gobble up and say ahhhh. There may be some truth in a sense to what actually he is alluding to. But again for the shooting part...it's very easy to give excuse to blame someone or something for it...shit happens dude...people get crazy all the time!. I'll take a rain check at this time. As for D. Mustaine take your chill pill man!
